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CHEERS TO CHANGE: NAVIGATING MENOPAUSE WITH LESS BOOZE · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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  you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
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  professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
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  Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast for
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  women over 50 with Eden and Chris.
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  And I'm disappointed in Christine Stone today, and I'll
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  tell you why. Get to that.
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  You'll find out during the course of this podcast about why
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  I'm disappointed and why my daughter is also disappointed,
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  not Chloe. Yes, but also just know that at
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  the end of this episode you will be getting an organizational
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  tip. So Christine will redeem herself
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  that way. But we're going to talk today
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  about not getting drunk anymore. And there is a huge, huge amount
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  of attention being paid to sobriety or just, you know, semi
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  sobriety or just drinking drinks that will get you buzzed or just
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  maybe relaxed or just maybe imitate the feeling of a
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  cocktail. And we're going to talk about
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  that. But before we get to all the
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  different varieties of those things, we should probably talk
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  a little bit about why it seems like women, especially women
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  over 50, are maybe leaning away from always having a glass of
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  wine or two before bed or when we go out, getting a cocktail or
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  three. Right, right.
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  I don't know about you, but it's just not worth it anymore.
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  The recovery, the recovery is not worth it.
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  I'm talking like 2 glasses of wine recovery.
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  I'm not talking like bottle of wine.
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  I I just feel that my skin looks so dehydrated.
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  I'm so tired and lethargic. I mean, it's almost like you
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  have to plan around if you're gonna drink to know that you
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  can't do anything that next day. And I mean nothing.
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  Same. Yes, yeah, I agree.
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  Yeah, I will still go out if I'm planning something, you know, I
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  know I'm gonna have a couple of cocktails for me.
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  The next day is a wash. Right, exactly.
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  And I don't know about you, but it kind of brings you back to
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  the junk food eating too. Like you don't want anything
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  healthy. You feel like I need something
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  like French fries. It's something for me I would
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  normally never really eat anymore.
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  So when you're. Drinking.
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  You're like, oh. Yeah, yeah.
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  So you. Feel all around crappy.
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  Yes, all around. And what is funny is if you go
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  out with your girlfriends, most of them are all saying the same
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  thing, especially women over I would say about 55, where it's
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  just not worth, it's not worth it.
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  And the younger generation is already doing this, which I find
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  hilarious. Yeah, yeah.
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  They're just not into. My daughter and her friends,
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  they're gonna that we're going to get to that and talk about
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  what their drinks of choice are these days.
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  But it's true. And again, we're I have to say,
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  I can't say this enough. We're not not condoning it.
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  I mean, no, it's not impossible that you and I in a few weeks
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  might go out. And have Oh no it is possible.
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  Yeah, right. But it's very possible that we
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  will go out and have some cocktails, but we're just saying
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  by and large as a philosophy, as something we're seeing a trend
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  towards. Right.
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  And we get why, because it just takes so much longer to come
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  back, to bounce back from it. Right.
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  And one thing when I was doing a little research into this,
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  because I don't know about you, but also my hot flashes come
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  back when I drink in the middle of the night, like like things
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  that don't bother me normally when I drink alcohol.
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  So I'm like, why is that? And then it says declining
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  estrogen levels, which? Oh, your research?
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  I did can make women more sensitive to alcohol.
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  Alcohol can worsen hot flashes, night sweats, sleep disturbances
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  common in menopause. So when you do the research, you
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  found yeah, validation. Yes for how I feel because my
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  night sweats do come back for sure when I drink alcohol and
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  when I don't I can sleep through the night without the hot.
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  Flash I definitely sleep better if I haven't had drinks right?
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  Definitely. It was never that way before.
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  Back in the old days, if you drank, it made you sleep better,
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  yeah. For sure, yeah.
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  What else in your research came up?
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  I don't know about you, but slowing your metabolism.
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  It's yeah, not a fan of the slower metabolism.
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  Because as you're older, when you drink, you feel like it's
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  like especially wine, which is mostly sugar, it you can't get
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  it out of you as quickly because your metabolism is slower.
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  And then you feel that poofiness.
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  It just, yeah, as you get older, it's a metabolism thing.
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  Well, I had a friend whose husband mentioned because she
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  had recently gotten away from drinking Chardonnay, that was
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  her drink of choice. And she's now doing something a
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  little bit more, maybe she's doing a tonic and a tequila kind
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  of more clear thing. And he said he noticed a big
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  switch in her mood because of all the sugar.
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  It's like that sugar crash. In addition to not being drunk
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  the next day and being hungover, in addition there's no sugar
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  crash. Right, right.
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  I agree. I, I think wine also to me it
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  just because of the sugar is also what makes you look puffy
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  and that creepiness under the eyes because I see a lot of
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  women if they are going to drink, they stay away from the
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  sugary drinks now. So that's another thing then.
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  Now this is all research. So this isn't me saying this on
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  my own because I would never have known this.
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  Alcohol can weaken bones and increase the risk of
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  osteoporosis, which women already are a higher risk in
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  post menopause so that's not good either.
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  No weight gain. We already know about that.
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  Alcohol contains empty calories and can contribute to midlife
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  weight gain, especially around the abdomen, which we all kind
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  of know this. Love the belly fat.
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  Yeah. And then this I found out.
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  And remember I told you this cancer risk when I went to the
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  doctor just for my normal mammogram or whatever.
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  And I said, OK, is that it? And she goes and you know, you
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  shouldn't drink any alcohol. And I'm like, whatever, What'd
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  you say? Louder.
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  What does this have to do with my mammogram?
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  Right? And she said the same thing.
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  They said it raises the risk of breast cancer and other cancers.
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  For women over 50, even moderate drinking can slightly increase.
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  This rate, OK. Yeah, I think they went a little
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  overboard by saying never, ever. Yeah, because I think when you
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  tell someone I don't know about you, when you ever say never,
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  ever, you're like that. Don't tell me never.
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  Ever. No, never tell me that.
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  Never tell anyone. Never.
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  Ever. And this is absolutely not to
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  negate that research. I believe that research can can
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  be very accurate. It's also very important to
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  always know who funded the research that you're you're
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  studying. So for example, if you've got
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  this, there's, there's a lot of research coming out right now
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  because there are so many products out there that are no
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  alcohol. They're funding research to make
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  sure people do know the dangers of alcohol just to maybe
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  increase their own market share. So you always have to kind of
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  keep that. I'll give you a great, let me
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  give you a great example of that.
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  So there was this big study on hydration that was done years
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  ago. And when everyone found out that
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  Gatorade paid for it, it kind of changed the way you digested
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  what they told us. So my point is, you're hearing
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  these more because these studies are being done by a lot of
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  companies that want you to buy their products.
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  Now, that's not to say that your doctor didn't come from a place
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  of real knowledge. Yeah, I'm saying you do always
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  have to be careful. Well also in my opinion, and
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  this is just my opinion, it seems like everything causes
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  cancer. Right.
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  Well, that's. Anything.
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  It could be the hair dye, it could be, you know, whatever it
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  is, the skin care you wear. What is some something always
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  comes out later, that something you ate, something you braid,
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  something you wore. Now you know what I mean, right?
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  So in other words, if you're loving your wine at night, love
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  your wine at night, you know, it's one of the many things that
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  could kill ya. What are the men?
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  Yeah. And these are just typical
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  medication interactions. If you're older and over 50,
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  which this made me feel really good that you're in that stat,
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  you could be on medications on a regular basis that can interact
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  with alcohol, which when you're younger you don't have that.
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  Problem. And the liver.
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  The liver's ability to process toxins like alcohol diminishes
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  with age. It's really depressing.
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  It is depressing. We're just breaking down in
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  front of your eyes. Right, exactly.
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  So there are a lot of options out there.
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  So for years we've heard the term mocktails.
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  Mocktails are those fancy drinks that look and sometimes taste
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  like a cocktail. So you can have something in
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  your hand when you're out, or you can have that sweet,
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  flavorful drink that's designed to be as fancy as the other
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  drinks. It still has the umbrella.
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  It still has all of this, so that's one thing.
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  And when people talk about mocktails, in my mind what I
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  think of is just the same drink but with no alcohol.
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  Right, like a Perrier with a lime and it looks like a gin and
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  tonic or something. Right.
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  That's a mocktail. It's mock, yeah.
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  But now we have all of these other seltzers that are flooding
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  the market, so we wanted to talk about some of those.
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  One of the terms you'll hear more and more is adaptogen.
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  Adaptogens are things, there are a lot of different mushrooms and
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  different chemicals within those mushrooms, Ashwagandha, things
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  like that, that are considered adaptogens and they do things
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  with your mood and a lot of these drinks have those
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  ingredients. So, but what are what are some
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  of the things that you've looked into with these?
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  Different oh the THC drinks. OK.
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  So we're going to get to that for sure.
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  So that's the only one I researched on because they're so
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  popular right now because the younger generation is quitting
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  alcohol, so they're moving towards this.
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  Right. And I've been at music festivals
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  where you go up to the bar and you have a couple of different
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  choices and those THC drinks are certainly among them.
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  And then of course, there's a health food store where you.
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  Bought some. No, you didn't get it there.
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  OK, You got yours online? Yeah, the one you ordered.
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  And then I, I just went to Total Wine liquor store and got a
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  couple of choices of mine because I wanted to try them
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  before we did the episode. Right.
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  So yeah, this is when I said I was a little disappointed in
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  you. I wanted us to drink these.
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  Oh yeah. And do the episode and you said?
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  No way. Absolutely not.
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  Because, and I'm not blaming Bethenny Frankel.
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  OK. I'm a grown adult woman who
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  makes her own choices, but Bethenny Frankel said to try
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  this instead of alcohol. So I said, if Bethenny Frankel
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  can do it, and she's younger than me, but over 50, isn't she
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  over 50? Yeah.
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  So I decided, you know, I don't really drink alcohol much
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  anymore. It just doesn't really, it's not
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  something I I don't not drink it.
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  It's just not a thing anymore. So I decided to try this and
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  then we talked about this and I said I have to talk about these
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  THC drinks. Why?
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  Because I did not do enough research as a grown adult woman.
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  We should stop right here for a quick second before we even
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  launch into that and talk about the legality.
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  THC is the ingredient or the chemical or whatever it is.
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  I'm not going to get too sciency here.
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  That is in cannabis weed that makes you high.
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  Yeah. You you all heard of CBD and
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  some of these drinks just have CBD.
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  In them and those give a. Little bit of chill, Yeah, but
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  they're not the same as the THC, right?
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  And there are strains of these that you can legally buy over
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  the counter. At least in Florida, it's
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  different. You can buy it anywhere.
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  Anywhere, OK, anywhere in Florida, recreational marijuana
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  use is not legal. Medicinal is right.
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  So I mean, but the we're talking about you can walk into some
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  grocery stores even and just buy these drinks.
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  These are seltzers that have THC.
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  No, this isn't. The one you have.
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  No. OK, the one I had was.
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  Oh, really? Yeah.
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  No, this wasn't a seltzer. OK, OK.
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  Please continue. OK.
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  Well, first of all, before I continue my story, I'm going to
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  talk a little bit about these THC drinks, OK?
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  And I should have done this research before I tried it, if
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  you want to know the truth, OK? So I'm going to I'm, I'm help.
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  I was your Guinea pig, everyone OK?
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  OK, so listen up. The first thing about a THC
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  drink is the delayed onset. Yes.
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  Did not know that. OK #1 did not know that OK, it
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  takes THC drinks longer to take effect, 30 to 90 minutes.
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  Did not know that. Either.
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  People may consume more because they don't know that, thinking
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  it's not working and leading to a very unpleasant intense high.
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  Next is what you had. Next, impaired judgment
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  coordination. OK, don't think that you can
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  drink these THC drinks and get in an automobile.
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  Oh my God, and. Drive.
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  Definitely. Not or make important decisions
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  or anything. Consider it to be as if you like
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  alcohol. You wouldn't get in a car and
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  drive smoking weed. Yeah, yeah.
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  You wouldn't do anything serious, so you wouldn't with
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  these. Yeah, don't operate a.
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  Forklift. Yeah.
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  Nothing. The mental health impact OK.
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  Regular or high doses can increase anxiety.
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  Yeah. Paranoia.
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  Depressive symptoms, especially in people prone to mental health
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  issues. Heart health risk.
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  THC can raise heart, heart rate and blood pressure, which may
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  pose risk for people with heart conditions.
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  Did not know that either. Liver load THC drinks like
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  alcohol process through the liver combined with other
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  substances. They can strain liver function.
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  They can also be addictive. THC can be addictive just like
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  alcohol or anything else. OK.
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  And this can also interact with medications that you're on
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  regularly. So it's kind of like alcohol.
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  It's just they're, I feel the way they're marketing is just to
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  chill and relax and that is definitely not the experience I
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  had. Let's talk a little bit.
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  First of all, the disappointment came with when, like I said, I
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  wanted and my daughter was like you, you got it.
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  You guys got to do it on that. I didn't realize the bad
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  experience you had. So I'm laughing now because it's
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  over. But I want to tell you my
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  experience with it. Just so you can see you had
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  something that came in like a suit.
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  You would add it to a drink that you're already making.
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  Which I didn't. I just.
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  Drink it. So what I got were seltzers that
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  were infused with it. Now, I have had a lot of
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  experience with THC in my day, a lot, a lot and gummies and all
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  of this and Oh yeah. So this was not a new feeling
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  for me whatsoever. It was just another way of
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  consuming it so I didn't have the shock of like, Oh my gosh.
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  This how many milligrams though that's.
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  Five Thing 5. Milligrams another thing 5.
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  Milligrams, OK. That's another thing people
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  don't tell you there's different milligrams and I learned that
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  also the hard way because a lot of people that first try it,
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  they start low. I didn't know.
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  I, like I said, I listened to Bethenny Frankel.
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  I didn't listen to. I didn't really.
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  You didn't listen to Eden Kendall?
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  No. I totally just like, oh,
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  Bethenny Frankel said. This is a good alternative to
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  alcohol, right? You know, it'll calm you,
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  whatever. So that is probably very true if
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  you're either used to it or whatever.
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  But I am going to tell you that's something that like you
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  said, you wanted to do it together here and I said no way
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  I could do that again, no way. OK, so talk.
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  Let's go through it. So you drink it and you don't
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  feel. Anything.
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  Nothing. Where?
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  Where were you? I was at home on my patio.
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  OK, Mitch was. There.
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  Yeah, my husband. Was there?
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  Was he having a cocktail? Or yeah, he was.
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  Having it so you were just having a nice night at home.
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  And. Chit chatting.
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  Chit chatting and I said oh God this even tastes delicious.
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  Like it tasted really good which is probably the worst thing
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  ever. If it tasted bad, I would have
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  been done with it, but it tasted very good.
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  So I didn't know. It takes 30 to 90 minutes,
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  whatever. So I go and have another half a
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  glass because I did know, you know, you don't fill it to the
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  top or anything like that. And then I'm sitting there and
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  all of a sudden I see my husband's lips moving, but I
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  can't hear anything. And I am like, what is going on?
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  And I look at him and I said, I can't hear you.
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  And he said what? I said I can't hear a word
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  you're saying. Your lips are moving, but I
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  can't hear a word you're saying. So I said to him, I think I need
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  to go lay down. Well, that didn't work either
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  because it's not like. I can't describe it, but laying
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  down it didn't help much neither.
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  And then I tried to focus on like the TV to take my mind off
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  of it. That didn't work either.
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  So and the next day, by the way, just so you know, I had a major
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  hangover. Like I felt awful all day.
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  So I thought, what's the benefit of this if you feel the same
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  exact way as you do with alcohol?
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  We'll come to find out, everybody.
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  Just so I'm not trying to talk bad about it because everybody
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  should do what they want to do. I'm a firm believer in that.
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  I started at the higher dose and didn't know that.
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  Yeah. So I didn't start at the lower
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  dose and that is I think the big problem.
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  But I'm too scared to even try it again.
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  That's how bad it was. The whole experience was bad so
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  I'm scared to even try it again. Well, I tell you there are, as I
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  mentioned, other options that do not have THC, OK, Some of them
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  have some of them have melatonin.
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  I. Would.
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  Try some of them have magnesium. Love magnesium?
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  Some of them have, and these are all things that will relax.
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  Some of them have, as I mentioned, ashwagandha and other
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  adaptogens like rhodiola, I think it's called Fidelia, one
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  of those, but they have some of these.
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  So there are definitely other options.
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  Yeah, and I'm not trying to push any of them on you, but maybe
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  1/2 of a can of the seltzer would have been a better option.
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  Yeah, I think it would have been a better. 2 1/2.
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  Milligrams, yeah, you. Know would have been better than
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  10 yeah so yeah so I mean I'm sorry you had that bad
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  experience I mean I think it is very.
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  Glad I did though it's. Good though, that, you know, and
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  the thing I told my daughter this too, because she and her
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  friends, this is what they drink when they go to the bars because
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  they sell them at the bars. And I, I was able to use this as
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  a jumping off point to say two things to remember if you have a
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  job that drug tests. Yeah, it's THC.
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  I don't care and nor will an employer care if you say this
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  was just from a seltzer that I got over the counter.
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  Right. If they care about that kind of
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  thing, some careers they do, they don't care.
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  Some they some, some companies will test you for drugs, but
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  say, yeah, don't worry about the THC because everyone's doing
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  this and that and the other also the driving, the driving, the
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  driving and the decision making. You know, you have to remember
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  you're not on your game. No, and I the first thing I said
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  to my husband next morning, I can't believe they sell this and
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  there isn't some kind of warning.
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  Don't drive an automobile. Don't don't do any.
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  You know what I mean? Like they do on alcohol.
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  I mean, there is no way I could have gotten behind oh, shoot,
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  though, no wheel. I mean no way.
• 23:04
  I mean, I just think that to sell something because you could
• 23:07
  get it anywhere. You can get it online, You can
• 23:09
  get it anywhere. Anyway that I just hope people
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  aren't drinking a lot of it and driving because it's just
• 23:17
  exactly like alcohol. Treat it.
• 23:19
  Treat it seriously. Treat it like what it is, which
• 23:22
  is a mood altering. Mood altering.
• 23:25
  Beverage. Yeah.
• 23:26
  But it is nice that there are options out there for.
• 23:31
  People that don't drink. Whether it's a mocktail, because
• 23:33
  it's just something that's carbonated and you like to hold
• 23:35
  it in your hands. I've actually been in a
• 23:37
  situation where back in my younger days and being in the
• 23:41
  entertainment industry and being a DJ and ATV person, I, I've
• 23:47
  been where I'd be like working in a bar and I'd be holding a
• 23:50
  martini glass and people would want to buy me a drink or refill
• 23:53
  it. And so I would keep water in it
• 23:55
  just in a martini glass. So it would be like, oh, I'm
• 23:57
  good. I have my drink.
• 23:59
  So sometimes it's more about the social piece of it.
• 24:02
  So having a nice seltzer or something with a little bite to
• 24:06
  it. I've even brought when I was
• 24:10
  hosting trivia, the what what a kombucha, you know, because it
• 24:15
  has a little bite. It feels like you're drinking
• 24:18
  something a little, you know, with a little more zest to it.
• 24:22
  But but be warned that going all in on 10 milligrams of straight
• 24:27
  up THC syrup. Well, and.
• 24:31
  It's not the answer. I I also think that when you
• 24:36
  like, I'm the type of person who always likes to be in control of
• 24:39
  my, my everything. Like I don't like to feel like,
• 24:43
  oh, out of it or out of control of my surroundings.
• 24:47
  I you know, I don't know. And I think that was another
• 24:51
  thing. I'm like, I don't like feeling
• 24:54
  like if someone broke in the house, I couldn't defend myself
• 24:57
  or whatever it is. I always like to know I could be
• 25:01
  on my, a game. And for me, that was not
• 25:05
  something I could be on my a game about.
• 25:06
  Yeah, probably not. But I probably drank too much of
• 25:10
  it too, so yeah. Well, live and learn.
• 25:12
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• 25:19
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• 25:27
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• 25:32
  She's looking out for you, she took.
• 25:33
  One for the team I took, one for the team.
• 25:35
  Awesome. Is there anything else in your
• 25:37
  notes before we get to your organizational tip?
• 25:39
  I mean, it's no nothing. I mean, I think my story tells
• 25:43
  it all, don't you? I think that's a good story to
• 25:45
  hear. To not be able to hear him
• 25:47
  talking, to see his lip smooth. Let's let's be honest, That
• 25:50
  would be terrifying. Yeah, that would be a
• 25:52
  terrifying. Feeling.
• 25:52
  Yeah, it was. Coming.
• 25:54
  Right, like I said, just know it takes time for it to take
• 25:58
  effect. Right, exactly.
• 26:00
  Yeah. All right, So what you got for
• 26:02
  us? From OK today's tip think about
• 26:05
  this when you are walking through your house today frames
• 26:10
  I can't tell you how many clients when I go into their
• 26:13
  homes have old frames tarnish frames different types of frames
• 26:19
  picture frames picture frames picture frames with words on
• 26:23
  them picture I mean the gamut is unreal.
• 26:28
  So the way I like to do it and every time I come, I'm always,
• 26:32
  we're always sitting down removing pictures out of picture
• 26:35
  frames and really kind of reworking it because picture
• 26:40
  frames can become clutter. And I don't think people realize
• 26:44
  that when you have tons and tons of picture frames, but different
• 26:48
  ones all throughout your house, it can look very cluttered.
• 26:53
  So go through, pick your favorite photos, and if you have
• 26:56
  some from 20 years ago that you really don't like anymore, take
• 27:00
  them out, replace them, really grab all your silver type frames
• 27:04
  together, all your gold frames together and make it more of a
• 27:07
  collection I think instead of just random frames all over the
• 27:12
  house. So address that, in other words,
• 27:14
  because those are the kind of things we don't see anymore.
• 27:16
  Yeah, You know they're there. You've heard of nose blindness,
• 27:19
  where you don't smell a smell because it's in there every day.
• 27:21
  You don't see all those picture frames because they're there
• 27:24
  every day. And they have been for 20 years,
• 27:26
  right? OK, good, good wisdom.
• 27:28
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• 27:43
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• 27:47
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• 27:49
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• 27:52
  and then. And until then, let's see, what
• 27:55
  can we say that has to do drinking THC drinks without
• 27:59
  really knowing what you're getting into?
• 28:03
  Oh boy, just how about this. The premise that you always have
• 28:07
  to have a drink in your hand to have fun and be social.
• 28:10
  You can let that. Go and don't look back.