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Work, Life & Sports in Your 30s — Real Talk ft. Terry the Bengals Fan · Off the Bench - London

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  Ladies and gentlemen, you are now tuned in to
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  Off the Bench London. With your host, Malcolm
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  the Milkman. Noel has got the visionary home.
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  to like and subscribe. YouTube. We're back for
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  another week? Did we fix the audio situation?
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  God, I hope so. And when you say we, you mean
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  you. Well, yeah. Yes, I participated. Well, you're
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  a part of the show, so I have to. Yeah, yeah,
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  we. The collective we. Yeah. So, how are you
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  doing? Hey, I mean, I was really hoping we'd
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  win this week, but we're doing all right. It's
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  been another week. It's been a season. It's been
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  interesting. There's a lot of talk about this
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  week. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot happened, just
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  like every week. But there were some surprises,
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  some more injuries, more of everything. No, man,
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  it was a good weekend. It was a good weekend.
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  But, like, yo, week 11. Week 11? Episode 11.
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  We're getting there. Yeah, we're... It's crazy
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  to think we're already halfway through. So, I'm
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  sure everyone that's watching has noticed we
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  have a big empty chair in the middle. Yes. So,
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  as a Bengals fan, I get the honor of bringing
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  in Terry. Terry's a local Bengals fan. Let's
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  go. There he is. Hey, how you doing? How you
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  doing? How you doing? How's it going? Thanks
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  for having me. I'm going to get comfortable in
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  this bucket. You get comfortable. You're going
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  to be in for a long one. Yeah, so everyone, welcome
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  to the Bengal Sadness Hour. Thanks for joining.
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  At least we're comfortable in our sadness. Hey,
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  so we'll start the show off, you know, decently.
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  And then if you want to stay for the talk with
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  all the teams and all the weeks, you can. I know
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  it's going to get depressing for like one part
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  of it. So I'll give you the option if you want
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  to walk away. I'm here for it, baby. I'll sit
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  in the pocket. That goes for both of us, right?
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  I might have to do the rest of the show by myself.
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  Yeah. It's going to be awkward. I'll just have
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  to turn the camera. You know what I mean? Just
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  do a close -up. Yeah. Just zoom it in right on
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  his face. I'm here for it, baby. The good and
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  the bad. Let's go. Well, thank you for coming
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  to the show, though. Thanks for having me. It's
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  an honor, guys. Episode 11. your inaugural season
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  of the show. It's an honor. You know, this is
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  the first time I'm a special guest. However,
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  I've appeared three times. He has. The first
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  time I came in interrupted. Yep. So there's an
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  audio version of that. Yep. And then the second
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  time I was showcasing my Geno Atkins jersey.
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  That was sick, though. It was just a quick moment.
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  So happy to be back, I guess. So now you're actually
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  on the show. Yeah. You guys want to go back and
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  watch those episodes and look for Terry? Easter
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  eggs, we call those. Easter eggs? Yeah. First
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  off, let's do the show a little different. Tonight's
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  the Cowboys and the Raiders game. Who do you
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  got? I think the Cowboys got this one. Really?
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  Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why. I just have a feeling.
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  I think they better have this one. Yeah. Like,
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  if they don't... It's a problem because their
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  season's pretty much shot. So from watching these
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  two teams from afar, I see Dallas, they have
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  a decent offense. Dak keeps them in games. They
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  have good receivers. Poor defense. As far as
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  I'm concerned right now, Las Vegas, they have
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  poor everything except for running back, no?
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  Pretty much. No, they got Max Crosby. He's kind
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  of crushing it for them. Yeah, okay. Gotcha.
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  Yeah, I don't know. Geno's not it. You know,
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  he did so well for himself in Seattle. He worked
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  himself into a nice little contract. You know,
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  there was a lot of upside with, you know, an
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  older quarterback, right? There was a culture.
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  Right. Yeah. There was a culture in Seattle.
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  And it looks like what you're talking about,
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  like, in Las Vegas. It's like, I don't know,
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  it's weird. Like, he doesn't have any flow. He
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  doesn't have any studio lines. It's like everyone's
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  all over the place. He doesn't fit. Yeah. Interesting.
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  He should have stayed in Seattle, is my personal
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  opinion. But. They weren't going to pay him what
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  he was looking for, right? And unfortunately,
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  he didn't make a lot of money. Sam Darnold's
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  a better fit there. Yeah. Is he, though? He's
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  playing fantastic. No, he had a bad game, but
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  I think he's playing pretty good for the Seahawks
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  right now. We talk about him in the MVP conversation.
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  I don't think we ever talk about Geno in the
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  MVP. And I forget who it was, but... One of their
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  defensive players was in a press conference and
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  essentially stood up for Sam Darnold and said,
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  you know, he's not the one to be taking the heat
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  for this. You know, we should be making plays.
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  He's playing out of his mind. And he used a lot
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  of profanity to get his point across. Yeah, he's
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  going to get fined heavily. Sam Darnold's going
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  to pay that. That tells me he's got his guys
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  behind him. He's a leader, right? And the play
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  overall, I think, has showed that. Yeah, if Vegas
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  can't get it together. Tom Brady's going to come
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  out of retirement. Do you still think he could?
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  I don't think he should. No. I think we'd all
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  be really mad if he did that and then somehow
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  managed to win another Super Bowl. I think he's
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  having too much fun on yachts, hanging out with
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  supermodels. Yeah, that's true. Him and Bill
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  Belichick doing the same thing. Yeah, that's
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  right. All right, so early topic today. Basically,
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  all three of us kind of have something in common.
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  We all work multiple jobs. We have a full -time,
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  we have a part -time. And then we also have side
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  hustles that we're trying to do. One's a collector
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  here that's looking for long -term investments
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  with your Pokemon cards. So there's that. But
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  then we're also trying to find time for... ourselves
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  as well as like playing sports and like get off
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  getting off the bench you know what i mean yeah
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  like trying to stay active and just like how
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  do you view your life now that you're in your
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  30s and trying to like you know what i mean but
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  like you're in your 30s congrats on just turning
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  30 trying to stay active you know trying to play
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  as much sports as you can because the moment
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  you stop playing like you kind of lose it so
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  like How are you finding balancing all of that
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  as well as trying to work and trying to have
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  a good relationship at home as well? You know,
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  I think when it comes to finding balance, I think
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  you just inherently need to sit back and take
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  a look at your life and start to become disciplined
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  about certain things, you know? I think as soon
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  as you start to discipline and prioritize the
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  things that are important to you and things that
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  will help build your life up, you'll actually
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  find freedom in those things. You'll improve
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  your quality of life, your mental and physical
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  health. I think it's important to stay busy and
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  find those things that interest you and really
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  go for them. That's why I got a lot of respect
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  for you guys. As busy as you are, you carve out
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  some time in your day to pursue something new.
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  and really put yourself out there. So it's something
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  I really respect and something I've been trying
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  to do. It hasn't always been that way, but we
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  learn as we grow. Yeah, 100%. You always got
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  to keep moving. I work, I don't know, 60 hours
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  a week, plus doing this, plus playing sports.
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  So I find once you have your schedule set and
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  it's more consistent, it becomes a lot easier.
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  It starts becoming routine, and then when you
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  finally randomly have a day off, where you're
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  like, I got nothing planned, you feel... Unproductive
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  almost? Yeah. I hear you. The hardest part is
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  trying to find time to do all the little things.
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  Yeah, for sure. Like sleep. Like sleep, and you're
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  just like, oh wait, I gotta squeeze a couple
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  hours in a week to... to do laundry, like weird
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  things like that. You're just like, ah, damn
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  it. Yeah. Life has to, has to get in there somewhere.
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  Yeah. I think you need to find the right balance.
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  Like I said before, if things you're interested
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  in, um, when it comes to the work side of things,
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  you need to enjoy what you're doing and have
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  the right balance of flexibility and stress.
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  You know, um, I think in our, in our side gigs,
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  as you would call them, I think we kind of have
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  that, right. There's some flexibility and understanding,
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  right. Your career comes first and, uh, that
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  goes a long way. No, it's true. It's not as rigid
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  as it should be or is, so it's a nice balance.
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  Now, do you ever feel like, you know, you get
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  to a point where, you know, you're having a rough
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  week? Like, I know we play soccer early in the
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  week, but, like, do you get to a point where,
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  like, I don't feel like playing today because
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  I'm just burnt out from everything? You know,
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  there's moments, of course. You know, it's either
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  that or... my knees flaring up, you know, as
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  you mentioned. Ain't that the truth. Yeah, the
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  moment you turn 30, everything hurts. Yeah, exactly.
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  We're going to geriatric hour, you know. Again,
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  I think you just, you dig back into that discipline
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  and focus, you know, knowing that it's something
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  you not only have to do, but you have a privilege
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  of doing it as well. I think as soon as you shift
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  your mindset. um and get out of the i guess like
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  woe is me mentality um you feel better afterwards
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  as soon as you push through so um but that's
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  not to say that burnout isn't real and i think
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  when it gets to that point you know you got to
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  take time for yourself because mental health
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  is key you know especially amongst men these
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  days you know it's it's more of a topic of conversation
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  and uh i think it's important to recognize that
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  yeah i feel like it's one of those things that
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  a lot of guys they'll They'd rather grind when
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  they're going through stuff to just keep their
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  mind off of everything. It's true. You're just
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  like, oh, it's fine. I like the distractions.
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  Yep. Because some people are not good at sitting
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  by themselves. That's honestly a skill in itself.
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  Yep. Not a lot of people can go home at the end
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  of the day and just complete silence. You're
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  alone with your thoughts. And sometimes it's
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  hard, right? Yeah. I think once you master that
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  silence, you really become unstoppable. Yeah.
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  Oh, yeah. Yeah, 100 % of the time. So, like,
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  obviously, like, you're on our soccer team. And
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  you came to our team recently. Two years? Yeah,
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  I was like, that's recent. Two years? Two years.
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  When you're in your 30s. Two years goes like
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  that. Were you in your 30s when we started? But
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  I guess the team's been around a long time. You're
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  an amazing addition to the team. I appreciate
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  that. I try my best out there for three minutes
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  at a time. Thank you very much. Three minutes
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  is a long time. Let me join this. Three minutes
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  is a long time. Some might say too long. The
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  question I want to ask though is you're playing
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  with the team now and you have the football background.
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  Because you played for the Thunderbirds? No,
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  at that time it was the London Falcons. That's
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  it. I think they're the junior Mustangs now,
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  I think is the team that I turned into, I guess.
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  How was that transition? Because I know you play
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  volleyball, you play all the sports, flag football
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  as well. And now you're playing soccer with us.
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  It's kind of a competitive level, but it's like
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  recreational stuff. Yeah. How has that transition
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  been for you? You know, I think first of all,
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  it would be the constant running. The cardio
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  is a huge part of soccer, of course. For me,
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  I think playing on defense. Well, I played soccer
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  when I was younger. So I think I had a little
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  bit of an understanding of the flow of the game.
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  And I had some basic, you know, dribbling skills.
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  But I think my passing was probably one of my
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  biggest, I guess, strengths. Simply because I
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  think... playing football and playing defense,
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  you have a good understanding of positional awareness
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  and where people are in relation to you and the
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  movement of where they're flowing. So I think
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  I had a good ability to read plays and read,
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  you know, where people are. So I think that helped
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  me out a lot. I always like when someone tries
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  to put it over the top on you because that's
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  like... your specialty you're like no i can actually
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  like yeah read this no problem yeah they're like
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  i'm sure it's hard for you to not just jump up
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  and catch it and i haven't done that yet but
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  uh you know it can be tempting sometimes you
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  know there's some really fast guys out there
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  and and playing defense i found especially when
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  you're playing up against a striker who is is
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  faster than you and and play to your strengths,
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  right? Keep that player in front of you, right?
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  So when those long balls come, you have a few
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  steps ahead, right? And then I am really good
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  at, like I said, you know, having positional
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  awareness of where that player is. So if the
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  ball's going over my head, I can stay in front
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  of that player and give my keeper a chance to
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  receive that ball and make a pass or let that
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  ball run out and then now we can play, right?
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  Yeah. It's a big skill to have. Oh, 100%. I know
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  it's annoying when I have to play against people
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  like that. You don't let that stop you, though.
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  Not as fast as I used to be, though. Yeah, but
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  I will say, Scott, you got a competitive streak
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  in you. You have a switch that you flip, and
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  it's like, okay, now Scott's a competitor, right?
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  And you see it kind of transpire out on the field,
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  and it's fun to watch. There's times when I'm,
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  like, loose, and then there's times when, like,
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  it's like what we were talking about last week,
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  when you get hit in the mouth. and it just turns
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  you on, and you just get that competitive flip,
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  and you're like, oh, okay, that's how we're playing?
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  All right, deal. And, yeah, I had the same feelings
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  when I was playing football way back when, playing
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  defense and offense, linebacker and running back.
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  I always felt that the game would really turn
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  on for me when I would play running back. When
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  I would take that first hit, deliver that first
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  blow, it's like now you kind of get switched
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  on to that. level of contact and you're awake
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  yeah you know so yeah because sometimes you're
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  just playing you're too loose and then that's
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  when people if one person's playing really loose
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  and another person comes in super that's how
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  people get hurt exactly and you know we play
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  co -ed once a week we don't practice right exactly
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  so you just kind of show up practice yeah practice
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  means practice right ain't nobody got time for
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  that we're done with the game or we talk about
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  practice Nice. Nice. But that's the thing, right?
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  You have your entire day and you show up. It's
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  hard to sometimes just get your mindset into
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  that competitive mode, right? But I think the
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  faster you can get there, the better. And so
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  you get there quick is all I'm saying. I think
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  for me, it's hard because you're right, we don't
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  practice. But it's like sometimes it's hard to
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  like, not everyone has the same fundamentals.
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  You know, my fundamentals are definitely from
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  like football, right? So I try to apply that
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  because... There's different layers to every
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  single game. As a football player, we have to
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  pay attention to the linemen because I was a
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  defensive end. And what happens for the line
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  is totally different from what happens for the
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  linebackers, which is also totally different
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  from the CDs and the safeties. So there's different
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  layers. And I try to break that down into the
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  soccer game where just because I'm standing in
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  one spot. I need to get to another spot to open
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  up another avenue because there's another layer
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  that will eventually open up the moment the ball
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  gets there. And I think, like, you know, we don't
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  practice, but not everyone has the same mentality.
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  And it's hard to communicate that during the
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  game. Have you, like, had any experience where,
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  like, you know, your past sports, you're kind
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  of like, like, even with volleyball, it's like,
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  I know I need to do this, this, and this, but
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  I need my teammates to, like, follow it. Right.
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  Yeah. I would say so. In soccer, what I've noticed,
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  you have to build chemistry over time. Again,
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  if you don't practice as much, you're kind of
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  practicing while you're playing and getting to
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  learn how the people around you are playing.
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  I always feel good playing from the back from
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  the sense that I can set plays up and I can get
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  people going. And typically when I pass, I'm
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  passing to you to get you to an open spot. I'm
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  expecting you to go and attack, right? And sometimes
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  there's miscommunication there. Some players
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  want to stay and get the ball at their feet,
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  right? So to your point about the football thing,
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  right, it's, you know, you're focused on your
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  job. You have to complete your job, but it's
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  11 or 12 people in Canada doing their jobs, right?
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  In soccer, it's, you know, you have one common
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  goal, which is to get that goal, but you're all
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  one organism moving as one, right? So having
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  that flow is very important. Now, when you play
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  soccer, do you relate everything you're learning
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  at soccer, soccer, football, and relate it back
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  to your work? like how you communicate are you
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  relating how you do that on the pitch yeah versus
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  how you do with your co -workers even though
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  like a lot of us work from home some of us sorry
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  from time to time some of us work from home but
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  it's like it's hard to communicate because you're
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  not in the office you're not building those relations
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  so like do you try to take what you learn on
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  the pitch back to the office i think so yeah
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  in some ways you know i haven't really thought
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  about it before but yeah i mean everyone communicates
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  differently and receives information differently
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  right And being able to be an effective communicator
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  on the field verbally, right, it'll help your
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  team succeed. And the more that you can do that
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  in your personal life or work life, whatever
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  it may be, I think it'll lead to more success
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  or at least more understanding to, you know,
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  get to that final goal, whatever it may be. Yes.
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  Right? Well, it's also being able to read people's
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  body language and try and figure out what they're
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  doing, trying to think ahead. Because you're
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  trying to think two, three steps ahead as much
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  as you can. I know when I'm playing soccer, I'm
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  not just thinking about making that one pass.
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  I'm thinking about what this one pass is going
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  to open up. And it's the same thing with work,
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  conversations, what you're doing with everything.
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  You're like, everything you do... has all these
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  different actions that are going to be the outcome.
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  So you try to figure out what's going to happen
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  and then make the best call you can. You see
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  lots of times where someone's completely wide
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  open, but you're like, nope, because I see someone.
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  They may be screaming for the ball. They don't
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  see the person coming behind them. Who's got
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  a straight shot to the goalie. Or they're not
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  seeing that. Sure, I can give you the ball. Where
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  are you going to go with it? Exactly. I run into
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  the corner and yell for the ball. What's the
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  point? I could be completely open, but there's
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  nothing that that is going to help. Interesting.
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  So the first read is not always the best read.
• 21:06
  Exactly. It's just like football. That's why
• 21:09
  they're going through the progressions. Interesting.
• 21:12
  100%. That's exactly how I think. I also relate
• 21:15
  that to work. I work in IT. The common thing
• 21:20
  is, have you turned it on and off again? Unplug
• 21:24
  it. It's part of the progression. It's part of
• 21:27
  the progression, but sometimes I ask those questions
• 21:30
  before I even do it and be like, well, have you
• 21:32
  done it? Oh, no, you haven't. I will see what...
• 21:35
  cause the issue first and then try to backtrack
• 21:37
  it so I can see the overlay of everything and
• 21:41
  then try to be like well this is what you've
• 21:43
  been doing if you stop this but then when it
• 21:46
  comes to soccer I don't want to be like have
• 21:48
  to fix everything or have to react but if you
• 21:51
  put your team in the best situation like you
• 21:54
  know instead of going forward you go backwards
• 21:57
  to slow things down then you can create a better
• 22:00
  office for yourself to get back open because
• 22:03
  now the focus is somewhere else. And you do very
• 22:08
  well because I see it on the pitch as well. But
• 22:11
  I think a lot of people who haven't played organized
• 22:13
  sports don't take that second to think, what
• 22:17
  does my past do? And what is it going to cause?
• 22:21
  And is there a better situation? And it also
• 22:25
  works in relationships. You may have your wife
• 22:28
  or your partner or whatever. You may react one
• 22:32
  way. What's the blowback? Exactly. You have to
• 22:37
  sometimes think, okay, if I say this, I'll probably
• 22:40
  get this reaction. Everything is the same in
• 22:46
  a sense. Everything flows the same way. Nice.
• 22:49
  It's very deep. Since we're getting deep, do
• 22:51
  you mind if I wax poetic? Yeah, go ahead. Thinking
• 22:55
  about this the other day, trying to rationalize
• 22:58
  and make myself feel better about my team, our
• 23:01
  team, the Bengals. That must have been difficult.
• 23:05
  Well, I was translating football into life a
• 23:09
  little bit. And you look at each individual team,
• 23:13
  each individual franchise, just like life, sometimes
• 23:18
  they're subject to where they are. Not every
• 23:22
  franchise is built the same, has the same advantages,
• 23:26
  and they all go through good times and bad times.
• 23:29
  But just like life, those good times and those
• 23:32
  bad times will not last. Correct. And you just
• 23:35
  got to stay the course. Well, the one thing that
• 23:38
  the Bengals do have going for them is that the
• 23:45
  defense being so bad. It's historically bad,
• 23:50
  actually. Literally historically bad. But them
• 23:54
  being that bad, it's glaringly obvious what you
• 24:00
  need to fix. It's everything on the defensive
• 24:02
  end, but you have a direction. When there's those
• 24:07
  teams that are just stuck in middle limbo. Steelers?
• 24:11
  Yeah, you're just like, nothing seems to be working.
• 24:17
  It's not good. It's not bad. It's just all meh.
• 24:21
  But we have really good offense, really, really
• 24:25
  bad defense. So once the defense becomes serviceable,
• 24:30
  which shouldn't be that hard to do. We just need
• 24:35
  a top 15. Yeah. We just need a top 15 defense.
• 24:39
  Get us two or three more stops than they have
• 24:41
  been. I think we're good. I'd settle for top.
• 24:43
  We might be. I'd settle for top 30. Yeah. You
• 24:49
  know. No, you're right, though. Like, look at
• 24:52
  all these franchises in the NFL. We'll just say
• 24:54
  the NFL for example. Yeah. You know, there's
• 24:57
  some teams that have never won a trophy, right?
• 25:01
  I've been an Eagles fan since 2004. I got to
• 25:06
  witness my first one. I'm hoping you guys can
• 25:08
  witness your first one too. Yeah. Terry, you're
• 25:12
  more of a diehard than I am. Yeah. His basement?
• 25:15
  Wild. It's definitely the Bengals' den. That's
• 25:19
  the jungle. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's the jungle.
• 25:22
  You know, I like to be surrounded by my bad decisions,
• 25:25
  I suppose. You know, I chose the Bengals when
• 25:28
  I was a youth. But you know what, though? You
• 25:31
  know, I love my team. There's been a lot of good
• 25:34
  moments, a lot of bad. Oh, for sure. But, you
• 25:36
  know, also it's like, you know, if I didn't know
• 25:39
  anything else about you, Scott, just knowing
• 25:42
  that you're a Bengals fan, I'd know a lot, you
• 25:44
  know? Yeah. I'd know that you're resilient. Yeah.
• 25:46
  You probably like roller coasters. I do, actually.
• 25:51
  You're loyal. You're loyal. And, you know, a
• 25:55
  little bit of a contrarian, which I appreciate.
• 26:01
  It's going to be tough for any organization to
• 26:03
  win the Lombardi trophy. I think it's the hardest
• 26:07
  thing to do in sports. Every other sport, you
• 26:13
  have a series. The best team typically is going
• 26:18
  to win over the course of five, seven games.
• 26:24
  There's so much more time. Imagine if a football
• 26:27
  game was, what, 30 quarters? Yeah. Yeah, you're
• 26:35
  not wrong. Like you get four quarters. You have
• 26:37
  an hour. That's it. You get one game a week,
• 26:41
  and it's so physically taxing that, you know,
• 26:44
  injuries are a part of the game. You typically
• 26:46
  don't have the same team at the end of the year.
• 26:48
  Correct. Right? You know, for what a quarterback
• 26:52
  has to do to distribute the ball. I think it's
• 26:54
  the hardest position in sports to play. You know,
• 26:57
  you think about all the reads they have to make
• 26:59
  and playing against super athletes that are trying
• 27:01
  to deflect the ball, intercept the ball, tackle
• 27:03
  you. It's a lot, you know, and a lot can go wrong.
• 27:07
  And typically does for, you know, only one team
• 27:10
  wins, right? Yes. And not necessarily always
• 27:13
  the best team wins. Sometimes it's just the healthiest
• 27:16
  team. Or the best coach. Yep. Or sometimes just
• 27:20
  freak things happen. Random ref calls. There's
• 27:25
  so many little things. When a game is decided
• 27:32
  by inches, it can go anyone's way. What do you
• 27:40
  guys think about the microchips and the footballs?
• 27:43
  I think it's good in some aspects. They bring
• 27:46
  a little bit of technology into the game. away
• 27:50
  the human aspect of it so we know like yes this
• 27:54
  is a first down and this is not i think we really
• 27:57
  do need to focus on the gambling aspect of everything
• 28:00
  though because i think gambling is ruining the
• 28:02
  game i mean i feel like gambling is why they're
• 28:06
  getting so much technology and stuff involved
• 28:08
  because there's so much money on the line and
• 28:11
  everyone starts going oh it's rigged and if you
• 28:14
  if everyone started to say it's rigged then no
• 28:17
  one's gonna want to bet on it right Exactly.
• 28:20
  So, like, gambling on sports is great. It's funny
• 28:24
  how we always talk about this. Well, man, it
• 28:27
  is. What did I say last night when we were watching
• 28:30
  the game? They had the reporter talking, and
• 28:36
  it was a fan duel, right? Like, gigantic letters,
• 28:39
  bigger than they were, behind it. Like, it's
• 28:43
  insane. Yeah, I mean, it's massive business.
• 28:48
  you know i've done my fair share of donating
• 28:49
  yes it's a fan duel um but it's true i think
• 28:53
  the the more that you can take out of like the
• 28:55
  you know the i want to say easy but like the
• 28:59
  the cut and dry decisions right like did the
• 29:01
  ball cross the the goal line right yeah did they
• 29:04
  get a first down right that sort of stuff i think
• 29:07
  having the technology involved it's a positive
• 29:09
  yes 100 but i mean there's all those subjective
• 29:12
  calls that it I think we've talked about it before
• 29:16
  where there's a hold on every single play. There's
• 29:20
  a pass interference on every single play. It
• 29:22
  just depends if they feel like calling it. And
• 29:24
  sometimes you just happen to have a lot of saliva
• 29:27
  in your mouth while you're trash -talking Jalen
• 29:30
  Ramsey, and it happens to just spill out. These
• 29:32
  things happen. These things happen. It's definitely
• 29:35
  not because he's absolutely frustrated with his...
• 29:40
  right now. I think Jamar is a little bit different.
• 29:43
  And I guarantee Jalen Ramsey was in his ear because,
• 29:46
  hey, that's who we lost the Super Bowl to. Yep.
• 29:52
  Yeah. Well, Jamar burned him on the last play.
• 29:54
  If Joe had one more second. Yeah. I just sound
• 29:57
  like a bitter Bengals fan, you know, but it's
• 29:59
  the truth. It's not bitter. It's reality. If
• 30:01
  you recall in that game. But that's how everything
• 30:04
  is. Yeah. Like, if anyone had an extra half second,
• 30:09
  Games are completely different. It's insane.
• 30:12
  Well, and that just shows you the level of difficulty
• 30:14
  that you have to deal with. But in that game,
• 30:16
  do you recall when Jalen Ramsey pretty much almost
• 30:20
  took him out from behind? It was like two steps.
• 30:25
  And that should have been a penalty in my opinion,
• 30:28
  right? I think it's football. However, in today's
• 30:32
  rules, that's hitting a defenseless receiver.
• 30:34
  His back was turned completely. He didn't see
• 30:36
  the hit coming. And Jalen Ramsey wipes him out.
• 30:39
  You know? He could have broke his neck. So, yeah.
• 30:43
  But there's so many of those calls that are just
• 30:45
  completely subjective. Like, depending on the
• 30:48
  day, some ref might call it, some ref might not
• 30:50
  call it. Like, I'm sure there's some controversy
• 30:53
  on the end of the Eagles -Detroit game. Yes.
• 30:59
  AJ Brown. AJ Brown with the pass interference.
• 31:03
  Offensive pass interference that didn't get called
• 31:05
  because it got called. Defensive pass interference.
• 31:08
  Which sealed the game because it gave them the
• 31:09
  first down. But A .J. Brown pushed off. They
• 31:12
  were hand -checking each other. But you kind
• 31:15
  of can see. But it was a horrible ball thrown
• 31:18
  to him by Jalen Hurts. Was it catchable? Kind
• 31:22
  of. But kind of because of a push -off. Yeah.
• 31:26
  Okay. Yeah. I feel like we'll get into that later,
• 31:31
  too. Yeah. Sorry. let's stay on track sorry you
• 31:36
  know we just hey we don't have a track there's
• 31:39
  no tracks here okay we just get off topic on
• 31:41
  my kind of train all the time and just kind of
• 31:45
  go where it flows yeah amazing love it but uh
• 31:48
  yeah so i'm just gonna circle back so back to
• 31:55
  moving into uh changing sports moving into soccer
• 31:59
  i i feel like when you moved in and you started
• 32:04
  playing defense did you find that it's easier
• 32:07
  playing from the back because everything is in
• 32:10
  front of you you don't have to have your head
• 32:12
  on a swivel as much and you're yeah you always
• 32:16
  have the option where you're like when in doubt
• 32:18
  just kick it out you don't have to always have
• 32:22
  your head on a swivel and be like no I have to
• 32:26
  be the one that scores it has to go in the net
• 32:28
  I think so for me specifically just because You
• 32:32
  know, I'm real with myself. You know, I don't
• 32:35
  have the ability to fake guys out, you know,
• 32:39
  and score 100 goals, right? So I play to my strengths,
• 32:43
  and I think playing from the back, seeing the
• 32:45
  field in front of me, and having the ability
• 32:47
  to distribute the ball well, you know, for the
• 32:50
  most part. Unfortunately, I think a few games
• 32:52
  I've kind of missed the mark a little bit, but
• 32:54
  that's just me being critical of myself. But
• 32:56
  I find more value in kind of being a playmaker
• 32:59
  and seeing my team, you know, score the goal
• 33:02
  in front of me. I think I fit that puzzle piece
• 33:05
  really well. And playing from the back is perfect.
• 33:08
  I get to see the ball a lot. I don't get challenged.
• 33:12
  That could be a good thing or a bad thing. In
• 33:14
  the sense that I have the opportunity to make
• 33:18
  a play in front of me, it's really good. It does
• 33:21
  give you a lot more chance to get touches on
• 33:23
  the ball. Because I know sometimes when... The
• 33:28
  play isn't going our way. You go on and you're
• 33:30
  literally just chasing the ball around for the
• 33:33
  first 30 seconds, 40 seconds of your shift. And
• 33:36
  you're just like, I'm gas. Yeah. And I haven't
• 33:38
  even touched the ball yet. Yeah. And some teams,
• 33:42
  their movement is like that. You know, they're
• 33:44
  always playing five up, five back. And, you know,
• 33:48
  what I find sometimes is what kind of gets us
• 33:50
  in a pickle is when they're midfield. And their
• 33:54
  forwards kind of work in rotation and circle
• 33:57
  around. And that kind of gets us in a pickle
• 34:00
  if we don't communicate, right? Yeah. And that
• 34:02
  gets us really tired. Yeah, because you find
• 34:04
  that you're chasing the ball around. And when
• 34:06
  you're chasing it around, like I was saying last
• 34:10
  week, when you're being behind, it's way more
• 34:13
  exhausting. The offense is way easier than defense.
• 34:18
  Yeah, it is. Like defense is exhausting because
• 34:20
  you're having to react to everything. Yeah. And
• 34:23
  you're at the mercy of however good they are.
• 34:25
  Yeah. I mean, if you're getting into the game
• 34:28
  of not communicating and you're just simply marking
• 34:30
  up on a man and following them around all the
• 34:32
  time. You're just going to be chasing all night.
• 34:33
  Yeah. That's where you get into communication.
• 34:35
  You've got to pass players off, right? Which
• 34:36
  kind of brings it back to playing football, right?
• 34:39
  Yeah. When you're dropping back into coverage.
• 34:41
  You know, you have a zone you're playing. If
• 34:43
  you're playing man, that's different. But if
• 34:44
  you're playing in a zone, you cover your grass,
• 34:48
  right, your turf. And if players go in and out
• 34:50
  of it, you've got to talk to the players around
• 34:52
  you and pass that player off, right? So, you
• 34:56
  know, in soccer, you can play a little bit of
• 34:57
  that zone. But if you get a little lazy, it'll
• 35:00
  open up a lane for that player. I think especially
• 35:03
  now that we're older and we're playing rec, it's
• 35:07
  like we're playing a lot more zone. but not everyone
• 35:10
  knows the basic concept of zone. And I think
• 35:13
  that's hard to teach people because we're talking
• 35:17
  about an imaginary circle. And if someone leaves
• 35:21
  your circle, you have to let someone know that
• 35:23
  someone's entering their circle. But then you
• 35:27
  have to be aware of, okay, no one's in my circle.
• 35:30
  Do I move my circle so then someone's in it?
• 35:33
  Or it's that split decision that a lot of people
• 35:37
  are not used to. Or as a defender, if I decide,
• 35:40
  if I have an opportunity to play up and make
• 35:43
  a run, it's up to that midfielder to kind of
• 35:46
  drop back. Somebody has to recognize it and understand.
• 35:50
  Someone has to drop back to fill your position.
• 35:52
  Yeah, so there's no mismatch. You always want
• 35:58
  to follow a full momentum, but it's never a bad
• 36:01
  thing to file. back momentum as well. They go
• 36:04
  backwards to build back and forward to get someone
• 36:08
  outside. But like, no, yeah, you're right. And
• 36:13
  you know, it's funny, you say rec, but... It's
• 36:15
  rec. Yeah, but I feel like in the winter league...
• 36:17
  It's technically rec, yeah. It's technically
• 36:19
  rec. It's rec. But, you know, there's no outdoor
• 36:21
  teams for these non -rec players to play on,
• 36:25
  so at least those leagues fill up quickly. I
• 36:28
  feel like a lot of them spill down into our rec
• 36:30
  league. You're not wrong. There's a lot of teams.
• 36:36
  He just wants to tell me no, man. This is just
• 36:38
  what it is. This is lowest bottom of the barrel.
• 36:40
  I don't know what you're talking about. A lot
• 36:43
  of people here in this league have played competitive
• 36:46
  for years, played college, university level,
• 36:51
  and are doing this. Same reason we're doing it.
• 36:54
  To get out, get some activity, and... can kind
• 37:01
  of take your mind off of whatever you're going
• 37:03
  through at the time and lets you relax, get some
• 37:07
  social time in. Some teams like to take out their
• 37:12
  frustrations on us, it seems. For me personally,
• 37:17
  playing soccer gives me a sense of purpose. I
• 37:21
  have things going on. We all have our own lives
• 37:25
  and blah, blah, blah. But on the soccer pitch,
• 37:27
  you can... guarantee whatever you put into the
• 37:31
  pitch, you're going to get it. You know what
• 37:33
  I mean? Like if you come back on defense, now
• 37:35
  you just help the defense dramatically because
• 37:37
  you might've helped your keeper save a goal.
• 37:39
  And if you didn't come back, he wouldn't have
• 37:41
  saved it. Or you set up that perfect, you know,
• 37:45
  pass right in front of the goalie. And then someone
• 37:48
  from midfield or defense comes in and scores
• 37:50
  that goal. Your impact has a huge presence in
• 37:55
  the game. And I think like, It's like a quick
• 37:57
  gratification that, you know, it's like an ego
• 38:00
  boost that we get every week. Yeah. Depending
• 38:03
  on how much you want to put towards it. When
• 38:05
  the team's flowing and we're winning, it feels
• 38:07
  great. And it does scratch that competitive itch.
• 38:10
  Yeah. Right? That we all had when we played competitive
• 38:12
  when we were young. We're all there for one goal.
• 38:14
  And whether we win or lose, the other team had
• 38:17
  to work for it. That's right. I like that. Yeah.
• 38:21
  Nice. Yeah, it's a good feeling. Just being able
• 38:24
  to, like, still do something that you enjoy.
• 38:27
  Yes. Yes. Like, it may not be at the same level
• 38:33
  it used to years ago, but you're still getting
• 38:36
  that. It's like scratching that itch. When you
• 38:38
  score a goal, and granted, I haven't scored one
• 38:40
  in a little bit, but when you score that goal,
• 38:42
  man, it feels amazing, right? You just get that
• 38:46
  rush, right? You feel like you just scored in
• 38:48
  the stadium, right? You just scored that touchdown,
• 38:50
  right? So it's true. It does scratch that itch.
• 38:56
  Yeah. Beautiful. I love it. I love it. Beautiful.
• 38:58
  You want to talk football, though? Yeah, let's
• 39:01
  get into some games. If I'm dressed for the ball,
• 39:03
  let's go. Yeah. Let's dance. All right, so November
• 39:06
  13th. Wait. Before we get into that. Oh, oh,
• 39:09
  oh. I don't know if anyone noticed the shirt
• 39:12
  that I was wearing last week, but the Joe Burrow
• 39:18
  shirt. He's back now. He's practicing again.
• 39:23
  And Terry here actually has a matching shirt
• 39:25
  to this one. Slim Shiesty, baby. A Slim Shiesty
• 39:29
  shirt. He picked those up for us when they first
• 39:34
  launched, when he dyed his hair, and it was amazing.
• 39:38
  We had so much hope back then. We had so much
• 39:43
  hope. It was before the season last year. Yes.
• 39:46
  You know, I think we're just a bunch of hopeful
• 39:49
  guys. Yeah. We'll get into it. As long as we
• 39:52
  got nine, we got hope. Hopefully we can get nine
• 39:55
  wins. Maybe next year. November 13th. November
• 40:02
  13th. Jackson the Patriots. 14 -27 for the Patriots.
• 40:10
  Yeah. They're legit. It's annoying. Them being
• 40:16
  packed so fast. What was their downside? Two
• 40:19
  years? Three solid bad years, I'd say. But Rabels
• 40:24
  is coach of the year. Yeah. He's patchworked
• 40:30
  a defense through free agency and, like, a few
• 40:36
  draft picks, and they're really good. Drake Mays
• 40:41
  playing out of his mind. Yep. Plank to his strength,
• 40:44
  100%. 100%. And it's working for them. It's what
• 40:48
  the best teams do, you know? They're not asking
• 40:52
  a lot from Drake May, and he's playing at an
• 40:54
  MVP rate, which is crazy. And, like, I would
• 40:59
  have never seen this coming at all last year.
• 41:02
  And to see this now, it's just like, what? The
• 41:05
  patch is back? Stop. Like, I know there was flashes
• 41:08
  last year of Drake May being really good, but,
• 41:10
  like, not this good. Yeah, I mean, he's still
• 41:13
  young, right? Yeah. Which is crazy to think he
• 41:15
  still might play for, like, 20 more years. You
• 41:17
  know, when I look at that team, I see Vrabel.
• 41:20
  And I see a guy who, you know, the guys respect
• 41:23
  because he's been there. He's done that. Right.
• 41:26
  He's a dog. And I feel like most of them feel
• 41:28
  as though like he could still strap him up if
• 41:31
  he needed to, you know. And Josh McDaniels calling
• 41:34
  plays, you know, he's had an up and down kind
• 41:37
  of career. Only he can only be an OC. Yeah. He's
• 41:41
  an amazing OC. And I think in that building,
• 41:44
  you know, he has the cred. And he has free reign
• 41:48
  to do what he wants there. I don't think he's
• 41:49
  railroaded at any point. And it's working for
• 41:53
  him. And like you said, the draft is huge. They
• 41:58
  have the biggest piece, which is the quarterback.
• 42:00
  Travion Henderson's unreal. And they're finally
• 42:03
  using him. Yeah, exactly. That makes a huge difference.
• 42:07
  I feel bad for Gerard Mayo a little bit. I understand
• 42:10
  the NFL stands for not for long if you're not
• 42:13
  winning. You want to see that story work out
• 42:16
  a little better after one year. Typically, the
• 42:19
  interim head coaches don't tend to last just
• 42:22
  because everybody plays really good for an interim
• 42:26
  coach because they get that new spark in them.
• 42:32
  But it's just seeing how long it lasts. Does
• 42:34
  it last through the offseason? It didn't seem
• 42:37
  to last for them. I will commend the Patriots
• 42:39
  for being able to move on quickly. I wish some
• 42:43
  teams did that a little more. Yeah, amen. And,
• 42:47
  you know, you look at Tennessee, like, how poorly
• 42:50
  managed is that team? They're getting rid of
• 42:52
  all their great players that are showing out
• 42:54
  and winning championships with other teams. Vrabel
• 42:56
  clearly wasn't the problem. He was there. You
• 43:00
  think so? He was there. Okay, explain. I don't
• 43:04
  think he advocated for himself enough in Tennessee
• 43:06
  to the point where, like, he can advocate for
• 43:08
  himself now in... Seems like he has a lot more
• 43:11
  pull now. You know what I mean? The team is all
• 43:14
  in because last year, you saw what happened to
• 43:17
  the Patriots. They were all over the place. Frank,
• 43:21
  I can't even say his name right now. He came
• 43:24
  in with like, this is my culture. This is what
• 43:27
  I want to do. Are you on board? They hired him.
• 43:31
  Now look at it. This looks like what Bill Belichick
• 43:35
  was doing with the Patriots when he had Tom Brady.
• 43:38
  Everyone's bought into him. And in Tennessee,
• 43:41
  they started giving away everyone because the
• 43:44
  GM was taking over. He wasn't believing in the
• 43:47
  coach. You see Vrabel on the sideline. He literally
• 43:51
  coaches every position. You see him grabbing
• 43:55
  guys and showing them things on the sideline
• 43:59
  during the game. He's not just standing there,
• 44:03
  stoic, doing nothing. There was a scene in, I
• 44:07
  think they were on Hard Knocks or something.
• 44:09
  They were on some sort of show. It was like behind
• 44:10
  -the -scenes footage of the Patriots. And it
• 44:14
  was during a team meeting. And Vrabel did this
• 44:16
  little exercise. He called a guy up, and he put
• 44:18
  a blindfold on him. And he put something in the
• 44:21
  middle of the floor. I might be butchering this
• 44:22
  a little bit, but, like, the point is the same.
• 44:24
  He put a blindfold on him, and he put something
• 44:27
  in the middle of the floor. He's just like, okay,
• 44:28
  go find the bucket. And, of course, the guy's
• 44:30
  just, like, wandering around the room, right?
• 44:31
  Everyone's laughing, blah, blah, blah. He's just
• 44:33
  like, okay, how about this? And he grabs the
• 44:35
  guy. And he walks them over to it. He's like,
• 44:37
  pick it up. He's like, now you see what happens
• 44:40
  when we help each other and we lead each other.
• 44:42
  Right. So it's just like those little things
• 44:44
  that I think like really resonate with the team
• 44:46
  rather than just showing up, leading a meeting,
• 44:48
  you know, and moving on to, you know, your individuals.
• 44:52
  True. Right. So the intangibles. I like that.
• 44:55
  Well, sometimes you doing those little, little
• 44:58
  exercises like that can be huge. Like I used
• 45:03
  to do that in someone's mind. Right. Yeah. I
• 45:06
  used to do one when I was facilitating employment
• 45:13
  workshops. We would have a paper airplane contest.
• 45:19
  It was a team of three. The first person makes
• 45:24
  a paper airplane. They're not allowed to talk.
• 45:29
  The second person can talk. Can't touch anything.
• 45:38
  So they just couldn't talk. Then the third person
• 45:42
  couldn't see what they're doing. And they have
• 45:45
  to make the exact same thing as the first plan.
• 45:50
  So you're trying to get this person to do the
• 45:53
  same thing as this person. And they have absolutely
• 45:55
  no idea what they're doing. And it's all communication
• 45:59
  from one person who can't touch anything that
• 46:02
  just has to... relay a message but i was showing
• 46:06
  people that like the importance of communication
• 46:08
  and like it goes for everything yeah like the
• 46:12
  same kind of idea yeah 100 oh communication yeah
• 46:17
  the game i want to talk about but that but like
• 46:19
  that's gonna be later but uh any anything else
• 46:25
  you want to add for the uh jets and patients
• 46:26
  game uh oh fields uh is looking like he's done
• 46:32
  I think they're pretty sure I saw their benching
• 46:35
  for Tyra Taylor. Honestly, they should keep him.
• 46:39
  You're playing for draft picks anyways. Yeah.
• 46:41
  What's the point? You're not playing for anything.
• 46:43
  Everyone's going to get injured at this rate.
• 46:45
  I get you always want to put a good product on,
• 46:47
  but what's the point? Yeah, I feel like, I don't
• 46:52
  know. We'll see how it goes. Knowing the way
• 46:55
  the Jets are, they'll be like, we're benching
• 46:57
  fields for Tyra Taylor. Three plays in, he's
• 47:01
  going to get injured and Fields will be back
• 47:04
  on the field. I feel like a lot of these owners,
• 47:07
  they're like, how much are we paying him? Yeah,
• 47:09
  I don't care what the record is. Get him in.
• 47:12
  I feel like that's the right mindset to an extent.
• 47:17
  You're like, you get what you pay for. If I'm
• 47:21
  paying you a million dollars and him $25 million,
• 47:25
  guess who's playing? Million dollar man. It's
• 47:30
  true. Unless your quarterback has a sexual assault
• 47:33
  and you can't play. Well, yeah. This is breaking
• 47:37
  news. No. Just laughing at Deshaun Watson. Oh,
• 47:41
  Deshaun. He's got to be ready to come back sometime,
• 47:43
  right? Are the Browns paying him like $40 million
• 47:47
  this year? Something like that. Something like
• 47:50
  that. The Browns will Brown. Hey, at least we
• 47:53
  got him in our division. Yeah, that's right.
• 47:55
  All right. So the Madrid game, 930. in the morning.
• 47:59
  I don't know if y 'all woke up for that. I watched
• 48:02
  it. Okay. Yeah, I watched portions of it. It
• 48:05
  was kind of what you'd expect. The Mariners versus
• 48:09
  Dolphins. 13 -16 for the Dolphins. Yeah, I didn't
• 48:14
  expect a lot out of either offense. The Dolphins
• 48:17
  can go off when they go off, but it doesn't happen
• 48:21
  too often. Yeah. I'm liking the connection between
• 48:25
  Tua and Waddle. You know, Waddle being treated
• 48:27
  as a number one, I think it's showing some promise.
• 48:31
  But, I mean, they're just an inconsistent team
• 48:33
  generally, you know. And who knows what's going
• 48:36
  to happen next year, right? Because the GM got
• 48:38
  fired. We know this is Mike McDaniel's probably
• 48:41
  last year coaching. And then everyone's kind
• 48:44
  of like fighting for the spot. Yeah, the defense
• 48:47
  looked a little bit better. But, again, they're
• 48:49
  playing the commander. So it's kind of a hard
• 48:51
  sample size to extrapolate from. Especially the
• 48:56
  commanders without Daniels. Yeah, that sucks.
• 49:00
  I kind of foresaw it happening, though. He's
• 49:03
  not built to be running as much as he does, and
• 49:05
  he was just taking too much punishment too early.
• 49:08
  Yeah. And it's also his sophomore slum, right?
• 49:11
  Every rookie usually goes through this. He's
• 49:13
  spent more games out from injury than he has
• 49:16
  played. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, that's me saying
• 49:19
  that. Like, obviously Joe had one injury and
• 49:22
  he's out for a significant amount of time. But,
• 49:25
  like, he's just off and on injured. Yeah. So
• 49:29
  he just gets a lot of, I don't know, like dislocated
• 49:33
  his non -throwing elbow. Was it his knee or his
• 49:37
  ankle? Quad. His quad. Yeah, I feel bad for him.
• 49:40
  Hopefully he changes his style of play. Yeah.
• 49:42
  To at least be a little bit safer. You hope.
• 49:45
  Yeah, you hope. Yeah, well, best ability is availability.
• 49:49
  There you go. That's true. All right. Packers
• 49:54
  versus the Giants. 27 for the Packers, 20 for
• 49:58
  the Giants. I was really hoping the Giants were
• 49:59
  going to pull this off. Same. I love Jameis Winston.
• 50:03
  Like, eat those dubs. I wanted that against the
• 50:07
  cheese heads. Yeah. Man. Apparently he has a
• 50:12
  speech he gives all his teams about eating alphabet
• 50:16
  soup and looking for W's. Yeah. He's the best.
• 50:21
  I can't wait for his, like, commentating career
• 50:24
  after football. Oh, man. Or at least his podcast.
• 50:28
  It's going to be fantastic. Like how Cam Newton
• 50:30
  has his now, I think James Winston would be like
• 50:33
  top tier. Like Stephen A. Smith, watch out because
• 50:36
  Winston might take your job. Nah, I feel like
• 50:40
  he's too polite though. He's such a nice guy
• 50:43
  with such a good attitude. Well, he has to now.
• 50:49
  His college years were a little sus. First overall
• 50:54
  pick though, was he not? I don't think so. I'll
• 50:58
  have to fact check that. I don't know. It was
• 51:01
  a while ago. I don't think he was. Listen, this
• 51:03
  is your show. We can just make up facts. It's
• 51:06
  true. He was first round. Okay, well, anyways,
• 51:10
  a lot of expectations for him. Yeah, there was.
• 51:13
  You might be right. I think I'm right, but I
• 51:18
  think that about everything I say. Confidence
• 51:21
  is key. I love it. But yeah, I know. Brian Gable,
• 51:26
  fired. The energy back in the room, because Jackson
• 51:30
  Dart obviously wasn't playing. Skydaboo wasn't
• 51:33
  playing. So they needed that spark, and we knew
• 51:35
  Russell Wilson wasn't going to give it to them.
• 51:37
  No. No, I think Russell Wilson's done. But Jameis
• 51:42
  Winston is the kind of guy that people want to
• 51:45
  play well for. He may not be the best quarterback
• 51:49
  in the room, but people want to do things for
• 51:52
  him because he has the right attitude. Sure.
• 51:55
  Like he's the guy that like gives a speech and
• 51:58
  everyone thinks he's a goofy idiot, but they'll
• 52:00
  also be like, nah, I want to run through a wall
• 52:02
  for that guy. Yeah. Cause he cares. Yeah. And
• 52:05
  he's got a cannon for an arm too. And he's very
• 52:07
  surgical. Yeah. He said that in his presser when
• 52:11
  he was going to start. I was like, I'm in a surgical
• 52:13
  position out there. Not always operating on the
• 52:15
  right person, I guess. But, you know, he's throwing
• 52:19
  scalpels around. You know what I mean? Some of
• 52:23
  them landed in the wall. Some of them landed.
• 52:25
  But, you know, half of the surgeries, they're
• 52:27
  going to land. Yeah. I don't know. And I look
• 52:30
  at Green Bay and it's like when the season started,
• 52:33
  they looked like they were going to win the Super
• 52:35
  Bowl. But outside of the first few weeks, I mean,
• 52:38
  it's sort of been like they've been playing to
• 52:40
  their competition a little bit, kind of inconsistent,
• 52:43
  maybe a little bit overrated, dare I say. Yeah,
• 52:46
  100%. They're playing the same as they did before.
• 52:54
  Be Jordan Love. I thought he was going to step
• 52:57
  up for the team. He's not putting the team in
• 52:59
  the best situation. He's still too streaky out
• 53:02
  there. He's not really showing that he's a good
• 53:04
  leader. And it's starting to show because the
• 53:07
  defense is trying to hold up for the offense.
• 53:10
  And the offense isn't doing it. This is their
• 53:13
  window, right? Even last week, they held the
• 53:19
  Eagles to, what, 13? And they lost. So defense
• 53:27
  is doing their job. You have Micah Parsons back
• 53:30
  there. And they treat him like a closing pitcher.
• 53:33
  They bring him out there when they need him.
• 53:35
  And he's delivering. He's playing great. Yeah,
• 53:40
  they're just... I don't know. Their offense doesn't
• 53:43
  seem to have anything... They have lots of weapons.
• 53:50
  But they don't have a direction. Just because
• 53:52
  you got tools doesn't mean you know how to use
• 53:54
  them. Yeah. It's like that identity is missing.
• 53:56
  Yeah. You know? I thought it was the running
• 53:59
  game with Jacobs because he would just go run
• 54:01
  people over, right? But it's just kind of, it's
• 54:03
  just blending in a weird way. Similar to what's
• 54:06
  going on with the Eagles. We have all the tools,
• 54:07
  but we're not using them. Yeah. We'll talk about
• 54:10
  that. All right. And your jersey. Come on, man.
• 54:13
  You have so many nice, crispy jerseys. Is this
• 54:16
  your lucky jersey? What's the story behind the
• 54:19
  Vic jersey? The Vic jersey? Yeah. Okay. I was
• 54:24
  going to say something, but I won't. Okay. I
• 54:27
  like Don's. That's what I was going to say. Don't
• 54:30
  say your dog's acting up at home. I like Don's.
• 54:32
  No. One of my favorite wide receivers is Deshaun
• 54:37
  Jackson. Fair. And McNabb didn't really like
• 54:43
  Deshaun. Michael Vick was the one quarterback
• 54:48
  who definitely showcased how good of a receiver
• 54:52
  he really was. I viewed Sean Jackson as I viewed
• 54:58
  Devontae Smith. You know what I mean? They are
• 55:02
  the exact same person in a sense, just Sean Jackson
• 55:06
  was more of a dog. Was that when they had T .O.
• 55:08
  too? No pun intended. No. T .O. was gone by the
• 55:12
  time Vick was there. And yes, I like that. That's
• 55:17
  good. But yeah, so I will always keep a Vic jersey
• 55:22
  on me because it took this quarterback to really
• 55:25
  showcase who Deshaun Jackson really was. I like
• 55:29
  that. True fandom. Excellent. All right. Texans
• 55:33
  versus the Titans. Texans won 16 -13. Yeah, that
• 55:36
  was a game that happened. Yeah, it's whatever.
• 55:39
  Like Indy's kind of running away with that division.
• 55:43
  This game was of no consequence, I feel like.
• 55:46
  I feel bad for fans that are fans of either the
• 55:49
  Titans or the Texans. The Texans actually have
• 55:52
  a really good defense. Their offense is just
• 55:55
  not good. Yeah. Someone's going to get fired
• 56:00
  at the end of the season. Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 56:01
  Yeah, and I feel like Stroud has, like, one more
• 56:04
  year to prove it. That could be a good landing
• 56:08
  spot for Gable. I have other ideas for that.
• 56:14
  There's, like, there was a picture posted of
• 56:16
  him wearing a Penn State sweater. Yep. Oh, that'd
• 56:19
  be interesting. The next day he got fired. Yeah,
• 56:21
  after he got fired. Yeah. So, I guess his kids
• 56:23
  go there. That's why he was wearing the sweater.
• 56:24
  But, you know, it just happened to go viral at
• 56:26
  the right time. So, I don't know. Like, maybe
• 56:28
  he goes to Penn State. Less stress. More money,
• 56:31
  maybe. Who knows? There is more money down there.
• 56:34
  Yeah. Yeah. Probably more job security, too.
• 56:40
  It's true. Panthers versus the Falcons. Panthers
• 56:44
  won 30 -27. I think the Panthers are probably
• 56:49
  one of the more surprising teams to me in the
• 56:52
  NFL of recent. I simply look at their quarterback
• 56:55
  play, Bryce Young. He sort of started out, and
• 56:59
  it kind of looked like he'd be a bust. But as
• 57:02
  he's progressing in his career here, it seems
• 57:05
  like he's making the right decisions at the right
• 57:06
  time. He's putting the ball in the right spot.
• 57:09
  And it looks like they have a really strong running
• 57:11
  game, which is supporting his play. And they're
• 57:14
  doing enough to win some crucial games. It's
• 57:16
  funny that they always do this. Like last year,
• 57:18
  the back end of the season is when they started
• 57:21
  playing well again. Yeah. Most people start overlooking
• 57:23
  them. It's like the Bengals, like how we always
• 57:26
  talk about how the Bengals can never win a game
• 57:27
  in September. Yeah. But unbeatable in December.
• 57:31
  But the Panthers, you know, it's September, October.
• 57:36
  November they start picking up, and near the
• 57:38
  end of the season, you know, it's too late. Is
• 57:42
  that coaching? Is that culture? Is that talent?
• 57:44
  I mean, how do you quantify that? It's weird.
• 57:48
  Well, you said Bryce Young set the franchise
• 57:50
  record for yards? Yes. After he went into, I
• 57:55
  forget what the injury was, but he had to go
• 57:58
  into the blue tent. I don't know what they gave
• 58:00
  him in there, but he came out and threw for 450
• 58:03
  yards. Yeah, that's space jam water. I guess.
• 58:06
  Yeah. I mean, you know, you know, all of it's
• 58:09
  good for him, you know, like he, he got benched
• 58:12
  for Andy Dalton for some time there. Right. Yeah.
• 58:15
  And for, I feel like for a lot of the young players
• 58:17
  that can do a lot to your confidence. So I feel
• 58:19
  like you got to give credit where credit's due,
• 58:21
  you know, he's making the most of his opportunities.
• 58:23
  Michael Penix out for the season, I believe.
• 58:26
  No, he's just IR. But effectively, you know,
• 58:31
  which is going to be what back like week. 17.
• 58:36
  16, 17. So Cousins starting again in Atlanta?
• 58:41
  Yeah. I mean, that's the guy they're paying.
• 58:44
  Yeah, a lot of money. Such a bad decision. Yeah,
• 58:50
  so they pay him, draft Pennix, and look who's
• 58:53
  playing now, you know? Yeah. Do you think Peyton's
• 58:57
  going to make the playoffs now? What's their
• 58:59
  record right now? It's pretty good. I want to
• 59:02
  say it's like... Better than the Chiefs, I think.
• 59:06
  I want to say they're like 6 -5 or 7 -4 or something.
• 59:09
  And they're in a division with Atlanta, New Orleans.
• 59:14
  Tampa Bay. Yeah, Tampa Bay. Panthers. Panthers.
• 59:21
  What's their record? I'm doing it right now.
• 59:26
  This is our Denver Panthers, right? We got our
• 59:30
  man behind the scenes doing some fact checking.
• 59:33
  Yeah. So big old six and five. Six and five.
• 59:38
  Better than the Chiefs. Better than the Chiefs.
• 59:40
  Thank you. They're not going to move past Tampa
• 59:44
  Bay in that division. No. But depending on how
• 59:47
  their conference goes, it might be enough to
• 59:49
  get a wild card spot, especially if they keep
• 59:51
  winning in their division. Yeah. So. Technical
• 59:58
  difficulties. Okay. Yeah, I feel like Atlanta
• 1:00:05
  is just a weird team. They're so up and down,
• 1:00:08
  it's ridiculous. And it's frustrating to watch.
• 1:00:16
  Bears versus Vikings. 19 -17 for the Bears. They
• 1:00:23
  should have kept Sam Darnold. Man, this is embarrassing.
• 1:00:30
  You see his new nickname? He's like, yeah, when
• 1:00:34
  I go out on the field, I'm nine. What? Who said
• 1:00:39
  that? J .J. McCarthy. Ever since he said that,
• 1:00:42
  he has a passer rating of 50 and has been trash.
• 1:00:48
  Is he speaking German? Because nine means no.
• 1:00:52
  I don't know, man. He's not playing very well.
• 1:00:54
  No, he's not. It's effectively his rookie year.
• 1:00:57
  He was injured his entire first year. I don't
• 1:01:01
  know if it's the right offense for him. I feel
• 1:01:04
  like when he was in Michigan, amazing running
• 1:01:06
  game, and he was kind of like a running gun quarterback.
• 1:01:09
  They rolled him out a lot. There were some design
• 1:01:12
  runs. I think they're asking him to stand in
• 1:01:14
  the pocket a lot simply because you have weapons
• 1:01:17
  like Addison and Jefferson you want to distribute
• 1:01:19
  the ball to. I just don't know if it's the right
• 1:01:22
  system for him. We've talked about that before,
• 1:01:25
  making sure you get the right quarterback for
• 1:01:29
  your system. There's some quarterbacks like Burrow,
• 1:01:35
  Goff, pocket passers, or even Kirk Cousins. They're
• 1:01:43
  definitely pocket passers. And then you have
• 1:01:45
  all the running mobile quarterbacks. And then
• 1:01:48
  you have a bunch of guys that you're just like,
• 1:01:51
  ah, you're kind of somewhere in the middle. But
• 1:01:53
  some offenses are built for that. Some are built
• 1:01:57
  for a pocket passer. You need to be mobile. If
• 1:02:01
  you can't have that pinpoint accuracy, a pocket
• 1:02:05
  passer isn't what you need. I think when Minnesota
• 1:02:08
  was the most efficient, it was in Kirk Cousins'
• 1:02:11
  good years, and he was strictly a pocket passer.
• 1:02:14
  He distributed the ball well. They were winning
• 1:02:17
  by a wide margin. He was in MVP conversations.
• 1:02:20
  I know we all remember Kirk O 'Chain's. Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:23
  That was a beautiful time to be alive. That was
• 1:02:25
  good. They were playing really good football.
• 1:02:27
  They came back from like 33 to nothing or something
• 1:02:30
  at half. Oh, yeah. That was against the Colts.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was.
• 1:02:35
  You know, really good offense. And, you know,
• 1:02:37
  just couldn't put it together in the playoffs.
• 1:02:40
  And Bears are on a roll. You know, you can't
• 1:02:43
  deny their record. Yeah, I think they're finally
• 1:02:46
  getting a little bit of it together. I think
• 1:02:51
  he's finally listening. Yeah. Caleb? Yeah. I
• 1:02:55
  think his ego is getting, like, diminished. And
• 1:02:59
  I think he's finally, like, understanding that
• 1:03:01
  the coaches try to put him in the best situation
• 1:03:03
  to win. It's kind of showing. It's hard having
• 1:03:06
  that big of an ego when you're not winning. Yeah.
• 1:03:11
  Yeah, it's like the old, I still remember back
• 1:03:13
  in the day Cam Newton, right? Like, the outfits
• 1:03:15
  are cool until you're losing. Then you look silly.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah. Amazing career, though. That guy was insane.
• 1:03:24
  He didn't win me fantasy leagues, but he won
• 1:03:26
  me a lot of games in fantasy. That's for sure.
• 1:03:28
  Yeah. All right. Chargers versus the Jags. 6
• 1:03:33
  -35 for the Jags. Jags dropped 35 points. What?
• 1:03:37
  Upset of the week, I think. Yeah. What did we
• 1:03:39
  say? And that's not even an upset. That's like
• 1:03:41
  a spanking. Yeah. Chargers couldn't get anything
• 1:03:46
  going. No, their offensive line is, like, without
• 1:03:51
  Joel, is not protecting them at all. They can't
• 1:03:56
  win a game without Joel. It's weird. And I feel
• 1:03:59
  like we could rush for 100 yards against their
• 1:04:00
  defense at this point, you know? Same thing,
• 1:04:05
  like, I feel like they got a lot of good pieces,
• 1:04:06
  and I feel like in everyone's mind, at all times,
• 1:04:09
  the Chargers feel like a threat, but, you know,
• 1:04:12
  never want to play off me. Harbaugh, his hard
• 1:04:16
  -nosed attitude isn't translating onto the field.
• 1:04:18
  I think next year is going to be a totally different
• 1:04:21
  year for them if they can stay healthy because
• 1:04:23
  I think they've got some weapons. I think they
• 1:04:29
  just need a running back with two eyes. You don't
• 1:04:33
  like Omarion Hampton? Oh, yeah, true. He's on
• 1:04:35
  IR. He's hurt. I think the other thing, though,
• 1:04:38
  is they need to fire the rehab staff. Oh, my
• 1:04:42
  God. Because the injuries. Yeah. Like, Joel comes
• 1:04:46
  back for, like, two games. They win those two
• 1:04:49
  games. He gets injured. Boom. There's just freak
• 1:04:52
  accidents of, like, him getting rolled up on.
• 1:04:54
  Yeah. Massive dudes, small joints, you know.
• 1:04:57
  Yeah. It's going to happen. Well, I mean, we
• 1:04:59
  all got the same joints. Yeah. I mean, I'd be
• 1:05:05
  injured one play, so. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All
• 1:05:10
  right. Buccaneers versus the Bills. That was
• 1:05:13
  a game. That was a game. That actually might
• 1:05:16
  be the game of the week. Yeah. Yeah, I think
• 1:05:19
  for... Eight lead changes, something like that?
• 1:05:21
  Yeah. That's insane. Super fun to watch. It was
• 1:05:24
  like one of those heavyweight bouts. They're
• 1:05:27
  going punch for punch. And how I kind of viewed
• 1:05:30
  that game, it's like the prototypical Josh Allen
• 1:05:34
  performance. Oh, that was like... Exactly what
• 1:05:38
  he does. He throws for three, runs for three,
• 1:05:41
  50 -50, but then turns the ball over twice. You
• 1:05:44
  need one more. There's only been three times
• 1:05:50
  that a quarterback has run for three touchdowns
• 1:05:54
  and thrown for three touchdowns. Was it that
• 1:05:57
  guy? He did two of them, and the other one was
• 1:06:00
  like 50 years ago. But Josh Allen's done it twice.
• 1:06:08
  Jeez. I mean, he's a freak. Yeah. And just so
• 1:06:10
  durable, you know? Yeah. To be able to run like
• 1:06:12
  he does this far into his career and not seem
• 1:06:16
  to show any wear and tear. It's impressive. That's
• 1:06:18
  a man who won people fantasy weeks. Yeah, that
• 1:06:21
  guy would have been a Viking. Charging into battle
• 1:06:24
  with an axe back in the day. Hey, don't give
• 1:06:26
  Minnesota ideas. Hey, man. I was actually starting
• 1:06:30
  to get worried about him. Because I know, I just
• 1:06:33
  remember seeing the interviews of him talking
• 1:06:36
  about, his wife and going, oh, yeah, she's taught
• 1:06:42
  me that I'm more than just a football player.
• 1:06:44
  We're like, oh, no, we just need you to be a
• 1:06:45
  football player. He's going to go vegan. You're
• 1:06:48
  like, no, we need you to lock in. He's going
• 1:06:51
  to start wearing scarves. Feather hats. Yeah,
• 1:06:55
  exactly. All right. Bengals versus the Steelers.
• 1:07:01
  Who day? 12 to 34. Yeah. I'll let you off the
• 1:07:04
  hook. jersey situation by the way can i can i
• 1:07:08
  mention that tj watchers in front of me is this
• 1:07:10
  a prank it'd be a really funny prank though yeah
• 1:07:14
  yeah no so like where do we start right like
• 1:07:18
  they're not even playing right now yeah i don't
• 1:07:22
  know uh scott i'll let you go what do you think
• 1:07:27
  well the defense just cannot tackle anything
• 1:07:33
  like The Washington, their 300 -pound tight end
• 1:07:41
  that should probably be a lineman, was just treating
• 1:07:44
  people like children. But he decided to go at
• 1:07:49
  his legs. Yeah. Geno Stone looks absolutely pathetic
• 1:07:53
  out there. Yeah. I'll say that now. They go up
• 1:07:56
  and just try and hold them, and you're like,
• 1:07:57
  okay, but they're still moving. Yeah. And then
• 1:08:00
  you just fall. It's like children. The handles
• 1:08:03
  he's taking are terrible. There's no speed. Like,
• 1:08:07
  they're not hitting hard. Yeah. Yeah, I think
• 1:08:10
  going into that game, I think we've missed, like,
• 1:08:13
  120 -some tackles this season. And, I mean, you're
• 1:08:17
  just not going to win games that way. You can't.
• 1:08:19
  No. You know, and, again, props to the Steelers.
• 1:08:23
  Like, they did what they had to do. They treated
• 1:08:26
  it like a get -right game, and that's exactly
• 1:08:28
  what they did to us. You know, I think the turnovers
• 1:08:30
  ultimately killed us. You know. Our defense had
• 1:08:36
  some stops, but it wasn't enough. There was a
• 1:08:39
  pick six at the end of the game, a fumble return
• 1:08:42
  for a touchdown. Yeah, so they had two defensive
• 1:08:44
  scores. Yeah, so two defensive scores, and then,
• 1:08:47
  I mean, literally, the people playing on defense,
• 1:08:52
  I don't know if they'd start for a college team
• 1:08:54
  right now. Seriously, they probably wouldn't.
• 1:08:57
  And I'm just being emotional about it, but again,
• 1:08:58
  like you were saying before, it's so bad now
• 1:09:01
  that it needs to be addressed, right? It's a
• 1:09:04
  wound that's bleeding profusely, and it needs
• 1:09:07
  to be stitched up. I don't think there's any
• 1:09:09
  excuses that can be made anymore. Well, at this
• 1:09:11
  point, you almost got to cut the leg off. Yeah,
• 1:09:13
  there you go. It's gangrenous. It's got to go.
• 1:09:15
  Okay, so I have a question for you guys. How
• 1:09:17
  long has Zach Taylor been the coach for the Bengals?
• 1:09:20
  Too long. I think it'll be six or seven years
• 1:09:24
  now. Six or seven? Okay. Yeah. He's had Joe Burrow
• 1:09:28
  for how many years now? Five. Yeah. Joe Burrow
• 1:09:32
  took you guys to the Super Bowl. And a decent
• 1:09:36
  defense. Okay. Yeah. Since then, what has Zach
• 1:09:42
  Taylor done for you? Given pretty shitty excuses
• 1:09:46
  in press conferences. He's excellent at coach
• 1:09:51
  speak. You know, I think as a player coach, he's
• 1:09:54
  good. But I don't think he holds anyone accountable.
• 1:09:56
  I think his record without Joe Burrow is pitiful.
• 1:10:00
  And I think any other franchise would have fired
• 1:10:02
  him a long time ago. I like Zach as a person.
• 1:10:06
  He might be a good OC somewhere or a good quarterbacks
• 1:10:09
  coach. He's lost the locker room. Yeah. I don't
• 1:10:11
  think he's a good head coach at this point anymore.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah. I'm just shocked he's still the coach.
• 1:10:17
  Same. I would have got rid of him last year.
• 1:10:19
  Yeah. Me personally, what I would have liked
• 1:10:22
  to do is Lou Anarumo, not the problem, right?
• 1:10:26
  We've established that. He's done Indianapolis,
• 1:10:28
  and he's doing great. Okay? I would have fired,
• 1:10:32
  if I had the keys, I would have fired Zach Taylor,
• 1:10:34
  and I would have made Lou Anarumo the coach.
• 1:10:36
  I would have had a hard -nosed, defensive -minded
• 1:10:38
  coach on a super potent offensive team. That's
• 1:10:43
  what I would have done. I would have done the
• 1:10:45
  yin to the yang. Yeah, because that's what the
• 1:10:46
  problem is. The offense can figure itself out.
• 1:10:52
  The guys that are on there. You need a good old
• 1:10:56
  line coach and honestly a mediocre coordinator.
• 1:11:02
  And it'll be fine. But the defense is just poor.
• 1:11:08
  I'm sorry. Your team almost got to the playoff
• 1:11:13
  last year and the defense sucked. So you guys
• 1:11:16
  fired your defensive coordinator last year. Yeah,
• 1:11:19
  on the back of Joe Burrow having an MVP caliber
• 1:11:22
  season statistically. His numbers were amazing,
• 1:11:26
  and I think better than any other quarterback
• 1:11:29
  in the league. Okay. You're 100 % correct with
• 1:11:32
  that. Which is crazy when the defense can't get
• 1:11:35
  off the field to save their laps. But as a head
• 1:11:37
  coach, and you're seeing this happen, and you
• 1:11:41
  let your defensive coordinator stay on for the
• 1:11:43
  whole year, and you don't mix it up during the
• 1:11:45
  whole entire year, you just go through the punches,
• 1:11:48
  that shows weakness in a head coach. Well, that,
• 1:11:51
  and I feel like a lot of it has to do with the
• 1:11:53
  scouting. Like, our drafts have not been good
• 1:11:57
  the last couple years. We have, I think, three
• 1:12:00
  people in our scouting department. That's pitiful.
• 1:12:03
  Most teams have an entire department dedicated
• 1:12:05
  to scouting. I was listening to a Bengals podcast,
• 1:12:08
  and there were, you know, during the college
• 1:12:12
  season, the scouts will go to these games and
• 1:12:15
  watch them, right? There was a huge matchup in
• 1:12:18
  Ohio, and there was representation from across
• 1:12:21
  the league. The Bengals didn't even go, and they're
• 1:12:24
  in the state of Ohio. It's crazy. But like you
• 1:12:28
  were saying, holding on to something too long,
• 1:12:30
  I feel like that's sort of the Bengals' way.
• 1:12:32
  I feel like even with players, we signed you
• 1:12:35
  for three years, you're playing for three years.
• 1:12:38
  I don't care how bad it is, you're out there.
• 1:12:42
  I feel like that's the whole Bengals fan mindset,
• 1:12:46
  too. We're just holding on to it. We're not too
• 1:12:49
  long. But it's a beautiful franchise, man. It's
• 1:12:53
  a small market team, so it has that feeling to
• 1:12:57
  it. It's family run. They do a lot of good things
• 1:13:01
  outside of football for the community. It's a
• 1:13:04
  good team to be a fan of. Again, we have a lot
• 1:13:07
  of hope. Joe Burrow, he's amazing. He does give
• 1:13:10
  a lot of hope. Definitely. And that's what you
• 1:13:12
  need as a fan. Yeah. And you know, it's funny.
• 1:13:15
  I feel like if Joe got drafted to Dallas, they'd
• 1:13:17
  have two Super Bowls by now. No, because Jerry
• 1:13:20
  Jones is still the owner. I don't know, man.
• 1:13:23
  When Joe Burrow got drafted, obviously, you know,
• 1:13:26
  he went first overall. The Bengals were abysmal
• 1:13:29
  at that point. And Dallas had a decent defense.
• 1:13:32
  I feel like he might have won the first year.
• 1:13:34
  And their O -line was stellar at that time as
• 1:13:36
  well. I don't want to. No, I can't think about
• 1:13:39
  it. You can't. I know. I know. I'm sorry. It's
• 1:13:42
  the enemy. Yep. I get it. I get it. All right.
• 1:13:46
  49ers versus the Cardinals. 41 to 22 for the
• 1:13:50
  49ers. And Brock Purdy is back. No more Matt
• 1:13:54
  Jones. That was his first game back. First game
• 1:13:56
  back? That was his first game back. He's playing
• 1:13:57
  really well. Yeah. Good for him. Kittle got a
• 1:14:00
  couple touchdowns. McCaffrey's moving. I think
• 1:14:04
  he. They need to rest McCaffrey now. Not, like,
• 1:14:09
  rest -rest, but, like, not use him as many touches
• 1:14:12
  a game because they don't need to. Yeah, Bryan
• 1:14:15
  Robinson is good. But they can save him because
• 1:14:19
  they're probably going to make the playoffs.
• 1:14:22
  Yep. Because they have a solid record right now.
• 1:14:25
  Yeah. But it comes with they need him healthy
• 1:14:30
  for the playoffs. Yeah. So if you run him ragged.
• 1:14:36
  I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think
• 1:14:39
  the 49ers are going to make playoffs. You don't
• 1:14:41
  think so? You don't think so? I guess their division
• 1:14:44
  is super tough. Seahawks. Rams. Yeah. That's
• 1:14:48
  tough. Arizona. Who are playing now better with
• 1:14:51
  Jacoby Brissett. Jacoby Brissett, yeah. That's
• 1:14:57
  going to be a one you want to watch because you
• 1:15:00
  never know which way it's going to go. It's going
• 1:15:02
  to come down to the wire. We know the Rams are
• 1:15:04
  taking it. What? Yeah. I mean, you look at that
• 1:15:09
  San Francisco offense, it can be super potent.
• 1:15:11
  I think having Kittle back is huge. I think it
• 1:15:13
  opens up a lot for the running game. Well, they
• 1:15:15
  just got hammered with injuries, too. Well, that's
• 1:15:17
  it. And they've been super unhealthy for a while,
• 1:15:19
  right? But Kittle opens up the running game.
• 1:15:22
  He's an intermediate and a deep threat. But like
• 1:15:25
  you mentioned, Jacoby Brissett, man, what a grizzly
• 1:15:28
  vet to go out there. Set the NFL record for,
• 1:15:31
  like, what? 40s? 47 completions. That's crazy.
• 1:15:37
  Yeah. And lost. That's like two games for most
• 1:15:40
  people. Yeah, and lost. Well, 17 penalties, right?
• 1:15:44
  430 yards? That's right. Yeah, that'll do it.
• 1:15:48
  As opposed to San Fran's, I think they had like
• 1:15:49
  three penalties. Yeah. So, again, it's just one
• 1:15:52
  of those things like that might as well be four
• 1:15:53
  turnovers. Well, it's discipline. Yeah. Well,
• 1:15:57
  you know, we're talking about turnovers. We might
• 1:15:59
  as well go to the next game. The Seahawks versus
• 1:16:01
  the Rams. 19 -21 for the Rams. But I'm going
• 1:16:04
  to say this. You know, we're talking about turnovers.
• 1:16:07
  Sam Darnold, 14 interceptions, zero touchdowns.
• 1:16:11
  The score was only 19 -21. Wow. What? Four? Four
• 1:16:17
  picks. Yeah, I know you said 14. I thought I
• 1:16:20
  heard 14. I was like, on the year? He'd be begging
• 1:16:23
  for it. Yeah. You fact -checked me. Yeah, well,
• 1:16:27
  that's a pretty easy one to fact -check. Well,
• 1:16:30
  the Seahawks defense is obviously for real, you
• 1:16:33
  know. Talk about a team, like, talk about a defense
• 1:16:37
  holding an offense together. Yeah. And afterwards,
• 1:16:41
  you know, not pointing fingers, I think, is the
• 1:16:43
  big thing, right? Like we said before, I don't
• 1:16:46
  think Darnold should be, you know, judged off
• 1:16:49
  of his performance. You know, everyone can have
• 1:16:51
  a bad day at the office. I'm glad it happened
• 1:16:53
  this early, though. Yeah, it's better now than
• 1:16:56
  come January. Yeah, because last year when he
• 1:16:59
  was on the Vikings, it happened at the end of
• 1:17:01
  the year, and it's back -to -back. Now they can
• 1:17:04
  work with him before. Yeah. He's also leading
• 1:17:08
  the league in turnovers in the last two years.
• 1:17:15
  He's got like 30 versus, I think... I think it's
• 1:17:21
  Geno that's got the second most with like 27
• 1:17:24
  or something. That's kind of funny. Which makes
• 1:17:25
  it crazy to think about that Jameis Winston threw
• 1:17:28
  30 interceptions in a year. And 30 touchdowns.
• 1:17:31
  And 30 touchdowns. Yeah, missing 30 for 30. Yeah,
• 1:17:34
  yeah. That's amazing. Just puts that into perspective
• 1:17:37
  because this is over like a two -year span. Yeah.
• 1:17:40
  You know, with the Seahawks, like whenever I
• 1:17:42
  think of the Seahawks, I really love Kenneth
• 1:17:45
  Walker. I like his game, you know? He's an absolute
• 1:17:48
  beast, and when he gets going, it's fun to watch.
• 1:17:51
  It's true. And he needs to stay healthy, but
• 1:17:54
  I think when he gets going, and he might have
• 1:17:57
  one of the best backups in the league. I think
• 1:17:58
  Zach Charbonnier is amazing as well. When those
• 1:18:01
  guys get going, I think it serves them well.
• 1:18:03
  When JSN's playing like crazy, he got another
• 1:18:06
  100 yards. I feel like he's probably still on
• 1:18:09
  pace for 2000. That'd be Michael. One of the
• 1:18:14
  only running backs, too. There's not many running
• 1:18:17
  backs right now on pace. Oh, no, JSN. Yes, JSN.
• 1:18:23
  He was an under -the -radar guy a couple years
• 1:18:26
  ago. I know. And here he is. But you had to get
• 1:18:29
  rid of Metcalf to open up everything for him.
• 1:18:32
  And Lockett, too. He was older, but he was still
• 1:18:35
  a deep threat, right? He took a percentage of
• 1:18:37
  the ball. I think Lockett's on Vegas now. I want
• 1:18:42
  to say. Yes, he is. I feel like he is, yeah.
• 1:18:45
  Because they had the Gino P. Carroll connection.
• 1:18:49
  Lockett originally went to Tennessee. Yeah. And
• 1:18:53
  then they dropped him and then he went to the
• 1:18:55
  laser doctor. Okay. I think we all can like this
• 1:19:01
  next game. And I never really want to like gloat
• 1:19:05
  at someone's downfall. But we do. That's kind
• 1:19:09
  of what we do. But, like, you know, Chiefs versus
• 1:19:12
  Broncos. 19 -22 for the Broncos. I really like
• 1:19:17
  that they lost on a field goal, and last year
• 1:19:23
  they won on the blocked field goal, and they
• 1:19:28
  were all super excited about it, and everyone
• 1:19:31
  was like, hey. You beat the struggling Broncos.
• 1:19:35
  But now you can look at the Broncos and be like,
• 1:19:39
  ah, you just beat the struggling Chiefs. I love
• 1:19:43
  the shift in paradigm. And I did feel heading
• 1:19:46
  into the season that I think the Chiefs are kind
• 1:19:48
  of on the, you know. On the downswing? I think
• 1:19:51
  so. I didn't think it would be this bad, though.
• 1:19:53
  You know, they're still 5 -5. There's hope, I
• 1:19:56
  guess, right? Ooh, they're 9th now. Not a lot.
• 1:19:59
  My favorite moments were towards the end of the
• 1:20:02
  game when. It was starting to get out of hand.
• 1:20:04
  And after every play, Mahomes is looking at the
• 1:20:07
  reps going like this, and he's not getting the
• 1:20:09
  calls. Super cathartic to see, you know? The
• 1:20:13
  one thing, and I'll just do a shout -out for
• 1:20:15
  my buddy Martin, who's a huge Denver fan. I told
• 1:20:18
  him this a few weeks ago, a few weeks after Denver
• 1:20:22
  beat the Eagles. He's a little salty. Martin,
• 1:20:27
  let's ride. But I'll say this. Denver is the
• 1:20:31
  best team in the AFC right now. They've got some
• 1:20:34
  quality wins. But here's my biggest problem.
• 1:20:37
  They play to the competition that they're playing,
• 1:20:39
  and I hate that. I hate watching a team play
• 1:20:42
  to the level of the competition. They don't play
• 1:20:45
  their game, they just play whatever. You see
• 1:20:48
  a team that they should crush, and they'll beat
• 1:20:51
  them by a little. You see a team that you don't
• 1:20:55
  think they can beat, but then they beat them
• 1:20:57
  by a little. And it's like, they're doing it,
• 1:21:02
  like, watching this game. Doing it the hard way.
• 1:21:05
  Yeah. It was like their defense was playing late
• 1:21:08
  out last night. And then Bo Nix was just doing
• 1:21:11
  what he needed to do. Like, they don't go above
• 1:21:13
  and beyond. Until the fourth quarter. Yeah. And
• 1:21:14
  then he decided to turn it on. Yeah. You know,
• 1:21:17
  at the end of the day, like, you know. He's got
• 1:21:19
  like five game -winning drives or something like
• 1:21:23
  that now. Yeah, in his young career. You know,
• 1:21:25
  I think when you sit back and you analyze these
• 1:21:28
  games, I think it's easy to nitpick on how they're
• 1:21:31
  playing. But if you were to ask them, they'd
• 1:21:33
  say, well, we're winning, right? That's all that
• 1:21:36
  matters. That's all that matters at the end of
• 1:21:38
  the day, right? How they get there, they don't
• 1:21:40
  care if they win by one point every single game,
• 1:21:42
  right? It's just hard. But it could go either
• 1:21:45
  way. That's the thing, right? It's hard to bet
• 1:21:47
  on them because you're like, you guys played
• 1:21:50
  a competition. but then there's a chance that
• 1:21:53
  you're going to play to the competition and let
• 1:21:55
  the competition beat you. Those are the ones
• 1:21:56
  you really got to look at the spread. It's all
• 1:21:58
  about the spread. It's true. Sometimes you're
• 1:22:04
  like, they're going to win, but like if you got
• 1:22:08
  five points, they're probably not going to win
• 1:22:11
  that for you. Right. Yeah. You're just looking
• 1:22:13
  for the cover. All right. I also noticed that
• 1:22:19
  the defenders weren't. letting up when Mahomes
• 1:22:22
  is trying to run out the sideline because they
• 1:22:25
  know he's going to try and drop his shoulder
• 1:22:28
  and get an extra yard. Good. Hit him. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:22:32
  Is Kelsey going to retire after this season?
• 1:22:34
  He has to. He's going to ride off his... I'm
• 1:22:36
  going to be honest. It's not looking pretty.
• 1:22:39
  He's playing... Yeah, he played really well.
• 1:22:42
  Yeah, he had a good game, but I think overall,
• 1:22:44
  he's the same thing. Just like the Chiefs. I
• 1:22:46
  think he should... He can't carry the team anymore.
• 1:22:51
  That's the problem. Yeah. He can't be a feature
• 1:22:54
  tight end anymore, is what I'm going to say.
• 1:22:56
  He can still play, but be the second tight end,
• 1:22:59
  and that might help him. Yeah. Not have all the
• 1:23:03
  responsibility. He can come in for big play downs,
• 1:23:06
  and when they need him, just not every down.
• 1:23:10
  Yeah, I think he was absolutely sure he was going
• 1:23:13
  to get back to the Super Bowl this year and probably
• 1:23:15
  retire there. Reality check. Yeah, but I mean,
• 1:23:17
  you know. He's going to marry a billionaire.
• 1:23:21
  Life's good. He's got his podcast going. I just
• 1:23:24
  want to know where his priorities are. If he's
• 1:23:28
  still down to play, yeah, for sure, keep playing.
• 1:23:32
  But you're going to be marrying a superstar.
• 1:23:35
  Yeah, but I think he's going to end up wanting
• 1:23:38
  to keep playing because he knows as soon as he
• 1:23:41
  retires, he's done. But he has his podcast. He
• 1:23:45
  has, like, look at his brother now and all the
• 1:23:47
  ventures that he's going through. He's going
• 1:23:51
  to translate. Shooting commercials, winning Super
• 1:23:55
  Bowls. Yeah. I don't know. He'll just become
• 1:23:58
  known as, oh, it's Taylor Swift's husband. Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  Unfortunately. I wonder if that crosses his mind.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah. It's true. Yeah. But, hey, you know, I
• 1:24:09
  feel like teams don't really worry about him
• 1:24:11
  anymore like they used to. No. All right. Ravens
• 1:24:16
  versus the Browns. 23 for the Ravens. 16 for
• 1:24:21
  the Browns. Who do we choose? Oh, God. It's a
• 1:24:28
  broken clock. Oh, my God. Time for them to justify
• 1:24:31
  using their other pick on anyone else. Okay.
• 1:24:37
  I'm going to say this. A lot of people are going
• 1:24:41
  to get fired. Probably. We see like everything's
• 1:24:46
  going on. I'm sorry. You let your backup quarterback
• 1:24:50
  come into the game and he's never taken a snap
• 1:24:54
  with that O -line? Yeah, zero first team reps.
• 1:24:58
  Like zero first team reps. Like during the game
• 1:25:02
  was the first time that O -line ever heard his
• 1:25:04
  cadence. Right? That's sad. But, I mean, it's
• 1:25:08
  the Browns. Like, I am not surprised at all.
• 1:25:10
  Yeah, exactly. But, like, you're a coach. And
• 1:25:13
  you're supposed to be putting players in the
• 1:25:14
  best situation for the team to win. Yeah. I'm
• 1:25:18
  looking at Kevin Stefanski right now and be like,
• 1:25:20
  you want people to fail? Why? You used to be,
• 1:25:24
  like, you won coach of the year. I think it's
• 1:25:28
  because he didn't want them at all. And then,
• 1:25:30
  eventually, they forced. I get that. But, like,
• 1:25:34
  I'm sorry. You're still a coach and people have
• 1:25:38
  to respect you. If you're going to do this, like,
• 1:25:41
  the moment Shooter came in, it popped. Like,
• 1:25:44
  when the Giants put Jackson Dart in and how the
• 1:25:47
  fans were like, yay, like, everything's going
• 1:25:49
  well. Like, you know, there's energy. It was
• 1:25:52
  the first time I've seen energy from the Browns.
• 1:25:57
  But then the teammates didn't care. Like, the
• 1:26:00
  online, the first time I heard of Cadence, he
• 1:26:03
  almost made it a game. almost well yeah but you
• 1:26:08
  can tell the browns defense does keep keep them
• 1:26:11
  in it quite a bit yeah well like yeah i think
• 1:26:15
  the browns they're starving to have a guy you
• 1:26:17
  know i think they're they're starving to have
• 1:26:19
  a quarterback that they can get behind and you
• 1:26:22
  know those poor fans they every year they try
• 1:26:26
  they have to buy a new jersey you know And it
• 1:26:29
  just ends up in failure. I picked the Browns
• 1:26:32
  to beat the Ravens. I thought it was going to
• 1:26:34
  be the upset of the week. And it was actually
• 1:26:36
  looking pretty good. You know, their defense
• 1:26:38
  scored a touchdown. I think it was a pick six
• 1:26:40
  or a fumble recovery. I forget. It almost happened.
• 1:26:44
  You're right. It felt like if it was going to
• 1:26:45
  roll that way, it was going to go the Browns
• 1:26:48
  way. It would have been a big upset. But, hey,
• 1:26:51
  the Browns, Browns. They kept a lid on Lamar
• 1:26:54
  really well. Yeah. Miles Garrett, four sacks.
• 1:26:58
  They had two interceptions on him. Yeah. Derek
• 1:27:02
  Henry ran for over 100 yards, but one of them
• 1:27:05
  was, like, 60 yards. Other than that, he was
• 1:27:08
  averaging, like, two and a half yards a carry.
• 1:27:11
  Yeah. Myles Garrett, four sacks in that game.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah. Like, he's got to be... I don't know how
• 1:27:20
  many sacks he's on this year. He's got to be
• 1:27:22
  close to 20 now. He should be. He's unreal. He's
• 1:27:27
  just... in a terrible place. Yeah. You know,
• 1:27:30
  they're not going to win there, unfortunately.
• 1:27:32
  I know. But, like, Dylan Gabriel's in concussion
• 1:27:35
  protocol right now. So, Kevin Stefanski has to
• 1:27:39
  work with Shadur now. And, like, it's kind of
• 1:27:46
  sad. Like, yeah, the coach doesn't want you there
• 1:27:49
  and it's clear as day. But it's obvious that
• 1:27:51
  he doesn't want it there either. Yeah. So, you
• 1:27:54
  know, if I was Shadur, You just put your best
• 1:27:58
  foot forward and try to put some good stuff on
• 1:28:00
  tape. But, like, if we see it, media sees it,
• 1:28:05
  the owner sees it, why isn't the owner saying
• 1:28:08
  anything or doing anything about this? Because,
• 1:28:10
  like, I understand you've made your mistake with
• 1:28:14
  Sean Brown. I get it. Expensive one, yeah. But,
• 1:28:17
  like, if your coach is being that disrespectful
• 1:28:21
  for who you picked. Yeah, I don't think he's
• 1:28:24
  going to last very long. How is he still there,
• 1:28:27
  though? Hey, he could be an excellent defensive
• 1:28:30
  coordinator for the Bengals. We'll take anyone,
• 1:28:34
  man. No, I mean, I have my thoughts for what
• 1:28:38
  we should do to fix the Bengals, but anyways,
• 1:28:42
  maybe that's a conversation for another time.
• 1:28:43
  I'm just looking forward to it. How many hours
• 1:28:45
  do we have? Say again, sorry? I'm just waiting
• 1:28:49
  for this because it's coming. Next year, though.
• 1:28:52
  Next year. You know what, man? Going into the
• 1:28:55
  drafts, I kind of had an unpopular opinion. I
• 1:28:58
  thought that Shadur and Travis Hunter, I didn't
• 1:29:00
  think they would translate well into the NFL.
• 1:29:02
  I was not surprised that he wasn't picked second
• 1:29:05
  overall, personally. He played at Colorado. Sure,
• 1:29:10
  he did well and maybe set some records for that
• 1:29:13
  division in college. But it's Colorado. It's
• 1:29:17
  a huge jump. It's the NFL. I thought Travis Hunter
• 1:29:20
  was a great athlete. But I don't think his body
• 1:29:23
  is built for the NFL. It wasn't built for a two
• 1:29:25
  -way. Yeah. No. And, I mean, look, he's hurt
• 1:29:28
  and he's out for the season. Yeah. Right? I don't
• 1:29:31
  know. They definitely used him for the two -way
• 1:29:33
  just to get, like, click baits and, like, get
• 1:29:36
  that, like, oh, we got the best player playing
• 1:29:39
  both ways, blah, blah, blah. We knew it wasn't
• 1:29:41
  going to translate into the NFL because you have
• 1:29:43
  to pick one. Hey, the Jags just did really well
• 1:29:45
  without him. Yeah, I know, right? It's true.
• 1:29:47
  And I always view things as like a sample size,
• 1:29:50
  right? The NFL's been around for a long time,
• 1:29:52
  and it's not very common that people play the
• 1:29:55
  Ironman position anymore. And there's amazing
• 1:29:57
  athletes out there. Someone would have done it
• 1:29:59
  by now. There would be a blueprint, and there
• 1:30:01
  isn't. All right, so late game, Lions versus
• 1:30:08
  the Eagles. Man, that game was so hard to watch
• 1:30:13
  at the beginning. Yeah. It was just absolutely
• 1:30:16
  nothing is happening. And you're just like, oh,
• 1:30:19
  boy, this again. It was a defensive battle. Yes.
• 1:30:22
  But, like, not even a – it wasn't, like, a fun
• 1:30:24
  one to watch. I'll be honest. That's fine. It
• 1:30:26
  was a little boring. But what I will take from
• 1:30:29
  that game and what I kind of saw that really
• 1:30:31
  stuck out to me, I think Cooper Dejean is amazing.
• 1:30:36
  He is. Yeah, he's a lights out player. I think
• 1:30:38
  as an overall player, he's fantastic. There was
• 1:30:42
  one play. And he did this. There's a clip that
• 1:30:44
  he shadowed Jamar Chase going back and forth
• 1:30:47
  across the line. And Jamar went out for a screen.
• 1:30:51
  And Cooper DeGene closed that distance so quickly
• 1:30:53
  and made the tackle at the line. There was a
• 1:30:56
  play in the Lions game where Gibbs bounced outside,
• 1:31:00
  had the angle running full speed, almost straight
• 1:31:03
  ahead. And Cooper DeGene had to stop and close
• 1:31:06
  that distance and stopped and pushed him out
• 1:31:09
  of bounds. Saved a touchdown. You know, had a
• 1:31:13
  pick. He doesn't get a lot of interceptions.
• 1:31:16
  That was his first one since the Super Bowl,
• 1:31:18
  I think. He doesn't get a lot of interceptions.
• 1:31:20
  That wasn't his first one. No? That wasn't his
• 1:31:22
  first interception this year. Really? Was it?
• 1:31:26
  No. There was another deflection pick that he
• 1:31:32
  had earlier this year. But I think it's one of
• 1:31:36
  those things where he doesn't get a lot of interceptions
• 1:31:38
  just because he's locking dudes down. No one's
• 1:31:42
  making that pro, right? Yeah. So, I mean, good
• 1:31:45
  for him. Great pick. He went, I think, two or
• 1:31:49
  three picks after the Bengals picked in the draft.
• 1:31:52
  I know. I think we were here for that draft.
• 1:31:54
  I know. I looked at you and I'm like, dude, you
• 1:31:55
  got a dog. And no one knows it. But now the world
• 1:31:58
  knows. Yeah. I remember that because we were
• 1:32:01
  here for that draft. Yeah, we drafted Mims that
• 1:32:03
  year. Yeah. Which I'm happy with Mims. I think
• 1:32:06
  he's going to be a really good player. Now we
• 1:32:09
  see the mistakes we've made on defense. Yeah.
• 1:32:11
  The one thing I'll say, though, is where was
• 1:32:15
  Jared Goff? Like, I almost want to, like, get
• 1:32:17
  a milk carton. They were all over him. Jared
• 1:32:20
  Goff, where is he? Please call. Please text us.
• 1:32:25
  Send us a message on Instagram. Where was Jared
• 1:32:27
  Goff? His ball placement is still way better
• 1:32:32
  than Hurts. Hurts can't throw to an open receiver
• 1:32:35
  without them having to get it. True. Shots fired.
• 1:32:40
  But, you know, we'll just throw it 10 yards.
• 1:32:44
  That's all we need to do. Well, I think for the
• 1:32:47
  most part there, I think A .J. Brown's, after
• 1:32:50
  finally getting some targets, I think his longest
• 1:32:54
  was like 7 or 8. Which is crazy for him. They
• 1:33:03
  were using him, but they weren't really using
• 1:33:05
  him. They weren't using him properly. I think
• 1:33:06
  it was, like, Squeaky Wheel gets the grease.
• 1:33:08
  They're like, okay, like, he needs targets. But
• 1:33:11
  the Eagles can't seem to scheme very well on
• 1:33:13
  offense. Like, they've been through. Jalen Hurts
• 1:33:16
  has had, like, 12 offensive coordinators since
• 1:33:20
  he was in college. Every single year since college
• 1:33:23
  to now, it's been a new OC. And next year will
• 1:33:27
  be another OC. I'm calling it now. Brian Dable.
• 1:33:30
  from the Giants, the old Giants coach. That would
• 1:33:33
  be actually really good. He'll finally have an
• 1:33:35
  OC that he knows. Yeah. He's had him before.
• 1:33:40
  He might as well go back in that direction. Because
• 1:33:44
  we know next year is going to be a new one. Because
• 1:33:46
  Kevin Petullo, you're done. Yeah, the Eagles
• 1:33:49
  move fast. That's one thing that you can respect
• 1:33:52
  the Eagles for a lot. They move on from people
• 1:33:54
  so fast. Best front office in the league. Howie
• 1:33:59
  Roseman. Howie Roseman in the draft? Yeah. I
• 1:34:02
  want Howie Roseman on the Bengals so bad. That'd
• 1:34:03
  be incredible. Yeah. Can he play defense? Fuck.
• 1:34:07
  He'll find the guys to play defense, that's for
• 1:34:10
  sure. And he'll pay them early, too. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:34:13
  I don't know. I heard Collinsworth, and I usually
• 1:34:18
  hate his takes. Because he talks about Patrick
• 1:34:20
  Mahomes all the time. Yeah. He's a writer for
• 1:34:23
  Mahomes, for sure. But he made a comment about
• 1:34:26
  the Eagles. and I think it made a lot of sense.
• 1:34:30
  During their Super Bowl run, they ran with Jalen
• 1:34:34
  Hurts a lot more. Yes. Right? There were design
• 1:34:37
  runs for him, and he was a lot more mobile. And
• 1:34:40
  I think that opened up the offense for the Eagles
• 1:34:42
  a lot more. Correct. Right? You don't see a lot
• 1:34:46
  of that. Now, we don't know. He might be dealing
• 1:34:47
  with some injuries, you know, that they're not
• 1:34:49
  talking about. Sure. But you're not seeing that
• 1:34:52
  often. Well, like... Their offense doesn't have
• 1:34:55
  direction right now, though. That's the biggest
• 1:34:58
  thing. They have all these weapons, but they
• 1:35:00
  can't use them because no one knows what's going
• 1:35:02
  on. Okay, so right now, Saquon's in. As a linebacker,
• 1:35:08
  you're going to be like, oh, Saquon's in. What
• 1:35:11
  am I going to do? I'm going to stop Saquon. The
• 1:35:14
  moment he's not in, linebackers are going to
• 1:35:18
  be like, oh, he's not in. They're probably not
• 1:35:20
  going to run. They're going to probably try to
• 1:35:23
  throw it or whatever. All right, so I'll back
• 1:35:26
  off. Then I'll back up and run it back and get
• 1:35:28
  yards. But then Jalen can't throw accurately,
• 1:35:32
  or if he's under pressure, he can't throw it
• 1:35:34
  that well. Yeah, he tries to throw on the run,
• 1:35:38
  and it's not good. No. So, to call it correctly,
• 1:35:41
  you've never really been a Jalen guy. No. No.
• 1:35:45
  No. I have his jersey. Thank you. You're welcome,
• 1:35:50
  I guess. But, no, I was never actually a Jalen
• 1:35:52
  guy. And my biggest problem is I don't see him
• 1:35:57
  as, like, an alpha quarterback. Yeah. You know
• 1:36:02
  what? I would love to just say, like, you know,
• 1:36:03
  I'm not a big – this quarterback, but he won
• 1:36:07
  us the Super Bowl. I'm not a big fan of him,
• 1:36:09
  you know? Yeah, yeah. I'm just being – What a
• 1:36:10
  luxury. Must be nice. What a luxury. I'm just
• 1:36:13
  being an honest. Hey, that's fine, you know.
• 1:36:18
  If it takes me saying I don't like Joe Burrow
• 1:36:20
  that much, he'll win a Super Bowl. I'll take
• 1:36:23
  it. You can wipe your tears with the Super Bowl
• 1:36:25
  banner, I guess. Yeah. You know what? Fine, I'll
• 1:36:31
  take it. But, hey, you know what? I get it, right?
• 1:36:33
  I was huge on Carson Wentz when he was there.
• 1:36:37
  I mean, you know, he was having MVP caliber year.
• 1:36:40
  He was playing really well, so. And then Nick
• 1:36:43
  Foles took over. and got us to the Super Bowl
• 1:36:47
  and beat Tom Brady, and he will always be legendary
• 1:36:49
  for us. I feel like the big thing with quarterbacks
• 1:36:53
  is passing that eye test. They get you excited
• 1:36:58
  because they're fun to watch. Does the ball pop
• 1:37:01
  out of their hand, or does it just seem like
• 1:37:03
  they're going through the motions? I think the
• 1:37:06
  biggest thing for me, and the reason why I'm
• 1:37:08
  not a huge Jalen fan, is because as a quarterback,
• 1:37:12
  I want a true leader that doesn't just talk,
• 1:37:15
  but walks the walk. And I don't think Jalen really
• 1:37:20
  is walking the walk. He does the talk. He knows
• 1:37:24
  how to communicate with everyone. He's a business.
• 1:37:28
  He's like a CEO. Yeah. He's not like a teammate.
• 1:37:33
  Like in a restaurant, he's the executive chef.
• 1:37:35
  Yeah. You know what I mean? He's not the one.
• 1:37:37
  Yeah, he's not working the line. The way I view
• 1:37:42
  it is Joe Burrows is a natural born leader because
• 1:37:46
  he flat out said, sign my guys. I need my guys
• 1:37:49
  to be successful. I don't see that with Jalen.
• 1:37:55
  I don't see him stepping up and being like, you
• 1:37:57
  know what, I take responsibilities for my actions
• 1:37:59
  or I don't necessarily agree with what's going
• 1:38:03
  on, but I stand by my wide receivers because
• 1:38:06
  if it wasn't for them... I wouldn't be where
• 1:38:09
  I am today. I don't see that. When's your pigeon
• 1:38:14
  shirt coming in? I still haven't worn it. My
• 1:38:21
  sister has it, though. It looks sick. I just
• 1:38:25
  can't wear it. Maybe I'll just put Jalen's face
• 1:38:28
  on it. I'm sorry, what's the pigeon shirt? So,
• 1:38:33
  on the website, I have Philadelphia Pigeons.
• 1:38:37
  Because when we were going through that rough
• 1:38:39
  time, I wasn't calling them the eagles. I was
• 1:38:41
  calling them the pigeons because they were playing
• 1:38:43
  like a bunch of pigeons. Gotcha. And we sold
• 1:38:46
  a few, but like. That's amazing. Yeah. Cash in
• 1:38:51
  all the good and the bad. Why not, right? You
• 1:38:52
  know what I mean? Yeah. The bobs are dropping.
• 1:38:55
  Sell Band -Aids. Yeah. No, you know, right. He
• 1:39:00
  did have a really good call at the end, though,
• 1:39:02
  when he was calling that penalty the right way,
• 1:39:05
  unlike the rest did. But it's stuff like that
• 1:39:09
  that when it's that blatantly obvious, how is
• 1:39:13
  it not also obvious to the refs? I feel like
• 1:39:16
  to an extent they need, I feel like replay assist
• 1:39:21
  would slow the game down forever. But to an extent
• 1:39:28
  they have to be able to look at the replay and
• 1:39:30
  be like, nah, we'll pick that penalty up. They
• 1:39:32
  have a little bit of that. I think there is some
• 1:39:34
  centralized system. The people in New York watching
• 1:39:37
  the games, and if there is a terribly egregious
• 1:39:40
  call, it will get turned over. It's happened
• 1:39:42
  a few times, but not enough. I think the reffing
• 1:39:45
  has been terrible this year. But, I mean, you
• 1:39:47
  know, story as old as time. No one loves reffs.
• 1:39:49
  Oh, right. Well, a lot of it is, like, those
• 1:39:53
  subjective calls. So, it is what it is. Yeah,
• 1:39:58
  human error. And I know the Chiefs are all mad
• 1:40:02
  because does the ref still love them anymore?
• 1:40:06
  The check started bouncing, right? I guess. But
• 1:40:11
  did you guys catch any of the league stuff? Yeah,
• 1:40:18
  I think I was scrolling through the channels
• 1:40:20
  and it popped up, you know, briefly. I didn't
• 1:40:23
  pay attention. Yeah, I don't know. The Saskatchewan
• 1:40:25
  and the Alouettes. I think the LOS won. I'm not
• 1:40:29
  sure. Oh. Shows what I know. I'm just feeding
• 1:40:33
  off of you guys. Yeah. You know, CFL is, like,
• 1:40:37
  not on my radar. I don't know how to make it
• 1:40:42
  go onto our radar. Like, NFL, like, the drama.
• 1:40:46
  Like, you know, the press is A .J. Brown saying
• 1:40:50
  that, you know, using me but not using me. We're
• 1:40:54
  so invested in their lives. but it's not the
• 1:40:57
  same in CFL because the media doesn't care the
• 1:40:59
  same way? Well, it doesn't care the same, but
• 1:41:02
  it's also just... Yeah, it just doesn't get the
• 1:41:07
  same traction, so it's not in your face all the
• 1:41:09
  time. And, like, I could not watch a single game
• 1:41:15
  for a week. Like, I don't do that, but, like,
• 1:41:18
  I could not watch a single game for a week and
• 1:41:21
  I would still know everything that happened because
• 1:41:24
  it's just that involved in... The NFL is the
• 1:41:27
  biggest game in town. It has eyes everywhere.
• 1:41:31
  Well, I'm thinking the new league, well, there's
• 1:41:34
  a league that's going on right now. The NNL,
• 1:41:36
  the lacrosse league, is growing. There's a few
• 1:41:40
  more teams that are getting out there. We all
• 1:41:43
  know about Toronto Rock, but I think that league
• 1:41:47
  is slowly going to be big out there. It's a mix
• 1:41:52
  of... Go hockey and so forth. A little bit of
• 1:41:56
  checking. Canada's national game. I think in
• 1:42:00
  a few years, we might pivot and start playing
• 1:42:02
  lacrosse. Oh, boy. We're going to play lacrosse.
• 1:42:06
  With sticks? No, thanks. I'm just saying. Have
• 1:42:11
  you ever used a lacrosse stick? I have, yeah.
• 1:42:16
  It's a totally different skill set to have. I
• 1:42:18
  know. You can learn. The whole point of this
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  podcast is to get off the bench. That's true.
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  If anyone wants to join us to play some lacrosse,
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  hit us up. We'll come for practice. Get the ice
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  for your wrists. You know what I mean? You see
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  some of those sticks that they take to their...
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  That's an actual play. You take your stick and
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  you swat at their wrists. Yes. That's why you
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  have the gloves. No thanks. But hey, I'll watch.
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  I'll watch. Okay, so was this your first time
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  on the podcast? This was my first podcast, yes.
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  And how was it? It was good. You both were very
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  gentle. Thank you. Well, you got to be gentle
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  when you're a Bengals fan. Yeah. No, it was great.
• 1:43:03
  Yeah, no, thanks, guys. It was fun to sit down
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  and talk life, talk ball. Yeah. It was really,
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  really good. Hey, that's what we're all about.
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  Yeah. Once in a while, we got to get people off
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  the bench and onto the off the bench. For me
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  and coach. I love it. No, honestly, it was definitely
• 1:43:20
  a good episode. We definitely went longer than
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  usual, but it's just natural. This is how the
• 1:43:25
  podcast works. Yeah. I mean, you make the rules,
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  right? Yeah. Rules are meant to be broken. Any
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  final statements? Who day? Who day, baby? Yeah.
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  Be good. Do good. I like that Peace