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Best of 2026 | Old Technology, Deathbed Confessions, and Transactional Love · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Hey out there to all of our friends from Banter Town,
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  Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after
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  Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,
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  Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in
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  Speaker 1: We'd still like to bring you some of the best
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  Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most
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  Speaker 2: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 3: Today on Talk About That, John ponders how many pics
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  Speaker 3: of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: I reveal what all rock band photos have in common
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  Speaker 3: and find out the terrible original name for the Girl Scouts.
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  Speaker 3: Plus a conversation about the Sermon on the Mount and
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  Speaker 3: why it's needed now more than ever. Today's episode is
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  Speaker 3: It's not the radio. They're on their devices.
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  Speaker 2: They might have an app for a podcast on their
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  Speaker 2: Bluetooth device.
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  Speaker 3: Remember the MP3 player market had like a, there was
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  Speaker 3: a lot of those knockoffs trying to be iPods. Are
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  Speaker 3: all those just gone now? Yeah. Like I had like
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  Speaker 3: a Sansa flash device. What was the big thing? It
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  Speaker 3: was a Zune.
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  Speaker 4: Zune.
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  Speaker 3: That was the Microsoft.
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  Speaker 2: Gomez had a Zune, and he was always like, Zunes
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  Speaker 2: are so much better. We were like, no.
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  Speaker 3: Superior, the Zune store.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I go, you mean the Apple store? Yeah. Because.
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  Speaker 2: No, it does not work. No, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I found doing the office of the day?
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  Speaker 1: I found an actual Walkman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I have an actual Walkman.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, was it, so it was a disc Walkman, a discman?
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  Speaker 2: No, a cassette.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a cassette Walkman.
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  Speaker 3: I kept it.
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  Speaker 1: I also kept my original laptop from like, it was
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  Speaker 1: already used when I bought it in 2001.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like it's a, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's a video somewhere. There's these videos where they ask
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  Speaker 3: like kids from today's generation, not kids, but like even
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  Speaker 3: like teenagers, like Sadie's age. And they go, if I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to say what this is and you tell me
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  Speaker 3: what you think it is. And somebody said Walkman and they,
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  Speaker 3: the kid did not know what it was. They go,
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  Speaker 3: is it like a device that helps you walk? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, why would they know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A Walkman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Gary Goldman had a great bit comedian. Gary Goldman had
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  Speaker 3: a great bit about the Discman. He goes, I had
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  Speaker 3: a disc when he goes gigantic, the size of a,
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  Speaker 3: he was just talking about how great it was, but
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  Speaker 3: he goes, if you don't remember them, he goes, it
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  Speaker 3: was the size of a manhole cover. He goes, and
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  Speaker 3: you could play. He goes, he goes anti-shock. He could
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  Speaker 3: say all the features of it. And he goes, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, and my favorite feature of all random, random.
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  Speaker 3: When you listen, when you hit random, You didn't know
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  Speaker 3: what in the Sam Hill was coming next. What one
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  Speaker 3: of 10 songs was going to come? It's just such
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  Speaker 3: a funny, like, it is. It's like we were like, ooh, random,
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  Speaker 3: let's spice it up. But it's 10 songs.
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  Speaker 2: It's 10 songs, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you shuffle now, it's like you're shuffling 10,000 songs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're shuffling your life. Right. I mean, it could
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  Speaker 3: be a track from your audio book, which that would
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  Speaker 3: happen on the old iPods, where you'd be like, listen
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  Speaker 3: to it. You're jogging, and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: it's like, Today, this week in World War II, and
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  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm amazed at the number of digital files now.
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  Speaker 1: The digital footprint is large. Like, I did a search
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  Speaker 1: in my Google photos because you can search by names.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you. In fact, right now.
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  Speaker 3: No, John, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: I want to know.
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  Speaker 3: A live exercise?
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  Speaker 2: I want to know.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, look, I'm up here. How many photos of me
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  Speaker 3: are in here?
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  Speaker 2: How many photos of Johnny Weddington are up here? Was
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  Speaker 2: it tell me how many?
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: You're stalking me, dude.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't give me a.
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  Speaker 3: It's too many.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't give me a.
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  Speaker 3: Look at this.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I'm still scrolling, people. This is all Johnny W.
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  Speaker 3: And these are all printed out in a shrine in
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  Speaker 3: your home, too, right?
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  Speaker 2: Only if you're watching right now on YouTube can you
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  Speaker 2: see them. Still scrolling.
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  Speaker 3: Do you.
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  Speaker 2: This is all Johnny W. All the way back to 04.
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  Speaker 3: Do you light candles and look at these sometimes?
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  Speaker 2: I want you to check that one out, Johnny.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's not... That's actually not bad.
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  Speaker 2: That's a pretty cool shot right there. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: going to make to the photo wall.
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  Speaker 3: That's my police line strap. Yeah. That was my Counterculture.
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  Speaker 3: Look at me. I got the funny strap on my guitar.
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  Speaker 2: And it's cool because there's a big screen behind us
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  Speaker 2: with us on that screen, too.
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  Speaker 3: It's a screen within a screen.
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  Speaker 1: A screen within a screen. And then behind there, there
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  Speaker 1: is actually a screen with the screen.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, so when I looked at my daughter,
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  Speaker 1: it said 20,000 photos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. 20,000.
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  Speaker 1: And I just imported a bunch more. And my songs,
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  Speaker 1: there's no telling. But think of how many files. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why, Johnny, if it all goes.
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  Speaker 3: Away, whew. Right, right. But, I mean, you have the memories.
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  Speaker 2: In my head, you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or, like, on my hard drive?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean in your brain.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't have those anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you don't? Yeah. But, I mean, the stuff that
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  Speaker 3: you're supposed to remember you have. Because our families didn't
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  Speaker 3: have this. We didn't have. We had, like, a book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, with, like, the cellophane. Right. Little pockets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it was like you made the book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Every now and again, you go, look, there's the Disney trip. Remember,
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  Speaker 3: look how happy you are. So why are you being
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  Speaker 3: so sad now?
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  Speaker 2: It does feel like.
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  Speaker 3: I always thought that's how... By the way, shadowboxing and...
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  Speaker 3: What is it called? Scrapboxing. Scrapboxing.
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  Speaker 2: Shadowboxing is something different than making shadowboxes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, making... Yes, true. Shadowboxing is like, yeah, your
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  Speaker 3: parents gearing up to fight you. No, but shadowboxing and
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  Speaker 3: scrapbooking and all that, I used to have a bit
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  Speaker 3: about that early on in my career about how it's
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  Speaker 3: just parents... developing an evidence log so they can use
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  Speaker 3: it against their kids. Right. Because they're like, why are
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  Speaker 3: you so upset? And they go to the book.
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  Speaker 2: Look when you were happy.
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  Speaker 3: Look when you were happy. See, I had to work
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  Speaker 3: three jobs. It's an evidence log of parental goodness. I
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  Speaker 3: do think there's so many photos now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, is it so many we just don't delve into it?
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  Speaker 1: Because how are you going to find what, like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: If you have 20,000 photos, you may as well have
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  Speaker 3: no photos. That would be the argument. It's like if
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  Speaker 3: you have three quarterbacks on your team, you have no quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the old adage of college football is, to
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  Speaker 3: take it to a place where very few of our
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  Speaker 3: listeners will understand.
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  Speaker 1: How do you act like our listeners can't understand college football?
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  Speaker 3: I never really understood that saying either. Because I was like,
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  Speaker 3: if you give me two quarterbacks, I'll take that. One
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  Speaker 3: guy gets injured, I have another great quarterback? I don't
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  Speaker 3: agree with it. But anyway, I do agree with it
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  Speaker 3: if you have 20,000 photos of somebody that you're less
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  Speaker 3: likely to be like, Yeah, I mean, we probably have
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  Speaker 3: a photo of that. Like, people go to their kids'
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  Speaker 3: events and just go, they never stop. They're watching it
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  Speaker 3: through the viewfinder. You're not even experiencing it because you're
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  Speaker 3: thinking of these great, it's almost like the fireworks thing
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  Speaker 3: of like, people take photos and videos of these fireworks.
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  Speaker 2: They're not experiencing fireworks.
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  Speaker 3: And you're never going to go back and look at those.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's going, guys, everybody come over tonight. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: cook out and we're going to watch the fireworks from
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  Speaker 3: last year. You go, it's August.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We remember it. And why would we do that? Are
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  Speaker 3: you a lunatic?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think seeing people, it's different.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Are you saying that Sadie is a firework?
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying you want to let her colors burst?
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  Speaker 1: We have found quite a bit of stuff that we've enjoyed.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying people should.
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  Speaker 4: Why do you act like that my daughter doesn't matter?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be that guy that doesn't have kids.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, nobody should take pictures of their kids. It's
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  Speaker 4: ruining their... Believe me, I'm not being that guy. I
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of photos of my dogs and my wife.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I take photos too, but 20,000, John.
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  Speaker 3: Is a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you hate children? I think it's the real.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into it. But first, John. No, I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 3: That won't be a sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: It's not time.
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  Speaker 3: An ad for art. It would be a great ad segue.
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  Speaker 3: You know who hates children?
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  Speaker 2: Sponsors.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's been.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of how many Johnny and John
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  Speaker 1: photos are going to be up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's... So there's this one.
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  Speaker 3: We've been on stage many, many times together.
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  Speaker 1: If you were going to pick the photos of us,
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  Speaker 1: do you have any in mind? I'll see if they're
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  Speaker 1: the same ones I'm thinking of.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, the photo shoot we did for the band, uh, that, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Becky Finley did for us. Yep. And, uh, those were great. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we were in that era of everybody did this,
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  Speaker 3: but it was like, you look so surly. Right. Because
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  Speaker 3: everybody's trying to look cool. And you just look depressed.
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  Speaker 2: Angry Christian band.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You're trying to look edgy. So I had my jawline
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  Speaker 3: just like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you did look mad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like you looked... It scared me a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I was mad.
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  Speaker 2: Scared away our success too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry about that. Sorry. I don't think that was me.
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  Speaker 3: I think that was, no, I don't think it was you. No,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying like, I don't think that was my face.
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  Speaker 3: It was just everything else about us. It wasn't the
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  Speaker 3: way I posed her photo, but yeah, we had this guitar.
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  Speaker 3: So this is my shiny, super shiny guitar and some
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  Speaker 3: of those photos. And it photographs really well because the
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  Speaker 3: way the light dances off of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Cause it's like a mirror finish. And so I remember
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  Speaker 3: like a photo of that and we're, There's one where
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  Speaker 3: we're sitting underneath like some bridge or some like sewer
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  Speaker 3: pipe coming out of it. It's just very like earthy,
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  Speaker 3: gritty photo.
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  Speaker 2: He was on UT campus, I think, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, so I remember that photo for sure of
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  Speaker 3: the band.
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  Speaker 2: I have that. I actually found other band photos that
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  Speaker 2: I had not seen in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't use them, but those kinds of things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I think I may there, I found a
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  Speaker 1: shot of you. We talked about this before, but when
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  Speaker 1: we're doing the five smooth stone shoot with the vegetable
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  Speaker 1: soup that God, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're just looking at the camera.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing on it with like you had glasses with
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  Speaker 1: tape in the middle and you're just making the funniest faces. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like I may just have those on your hard drive. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow. Oh Johnny, I have, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've been searching through the hard drives since we last spoke.
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  Speaker 1: I've done nothing hardly but go through and try to consolidate.
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  Speaker 3: Have you deleted any of these?
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  Speaker 2: Hardly any, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is you have them and you're
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  Speaker 3: going through them, but you're not going like, well, I
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  Speaker 3: got three of those or I think we get it
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  Speaker 3: on that one or wow, that one's embarrassing. I want
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  Speaker 3: it gone.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, well, what would be the point? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm having a I'm making a catalog from
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  Speaker 1: which we can search from.
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  Speaker 3: From which we can search from?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, from.
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  Speaker 3: Too many froms.
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  Speaker 2: For which.
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  Speaker 3: From which we can search. Why?
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  Speaker 1: I want me and you in the largest man-made hole
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  Speaker 1: that we've ever dug.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 1: I remember that one for sure. That's the, what, 14 foot,
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  Speaker 1: 15 foot latrine we dug on the mountain in Panama.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then I.
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  Speaker 1: Want a Morton Chet. So Johnny and I used to
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  Speaker 1: do two characters for these videos every year. I was
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  Speaker 1: Chet Simpson.
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  Speaker 2: He was Mort Wellington.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I have several. I found the raw footage.
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  Speaker 2: Of Mort and Chet.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, really? The unedited?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Where we're up there and Andrew's shouting stuff at us.
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  Speaker 1: And Jeffrey's coming up on the lift outside the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: But I have those. That's funny. Just our funny stuff there.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, a couple funny. I want the city song.
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  Speaker 1: We wrote a song for the city of Mount Juliet
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  Speaker 1: when they did a 10-year census.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was 2007. Was it? Yeah, 2008 maybe. I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was 10.
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  Speaker 2: Was it at the 10s?
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  Speaker 3: Was it?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was 2000, because I had been doing comedy then.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't doing stand-up yet.
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  Speaker 1: But we made fun of everything about the census, including
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  Speaker 1: their ugly yellow shirts. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they loved it so much, they brought us in
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  Speaker 2: the city hall.
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  Speaker 3: To perform it. Yeah, we wrote a parody to the
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  Speaker 3: theme of Cheers, and it was about we got to
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  Speaker 3: know your name instead of you want to go where
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  Speaker 3: everybody knows your name. We got to know your name. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And it was, and then they brought them, they, we
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  Speaker 3: did it at church and somebody saw it on our
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  Speaker 3: live stream and they invited us to the city hall
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  Speaker 3: for their city hall. What a council meeting to do
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  Speaker 3: that song. Yeah. And I think I remember starting it
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  Speaker 3: by saying like, Hey, I would like before we start
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  Speaker 3: to announce my candidacy for mayor of Mount Juliet. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought it'd be really funny. And some people laugh nervously.
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  Speaker 3: And then one guy goes, Well, I think that just
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  Speaker 3: broke every protocol or whatever. Like they were like seriously
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  Speaker 3: like put off by it. Oh, wow. Because I was like,
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: all right, well, we're off on the right foot. I
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  Speaker 3: have upset the apple cart.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I would kill for?
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  Speaker 3: What's that?
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  Speaker 2: A picture of that first half marathon.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have, I don't know if you have anything.
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  Speaker 3: No. Well, back then we didn't have camera phones.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't take pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You just carry a camera with you everywhere you went.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because I think it's like, it's like up to 04, 05,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden the pictures just, they just start.
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  Speaker 2: Multiplying Johnny so it's maybe.
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  Speaker 3: It's you think it's contributing to narcissism yes okay like
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  Speaker 3: your personal narcissism oh yeah I don't think I was
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: meant to see myself this much yeah maybe that is
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: it you know what I'm saying as far as like
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: how we view ourselves we're always aware of how we're
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: being seen yeah because.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: I notice my flaws I notice my crooked tooth it's.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Like the opposite of Beauty and the Beast because Beauty
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: and the Beast he took all the mirrors out yeah
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: we added mirrors basically we added mirrors And we're.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Still the beast, Johnny. Come on. Want that, though?
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I think it just did.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: You stab it with your steely knives, but you just
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: can't kill the beast.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Hey, Johnny, it's about that time.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Oh. It's my Quote of the Week segment. It's called
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: They Talked About That.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Nailed it.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Don't lose that take.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: It's a little longer, but it's Dallas Willard. This really
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: struck me. I can't remember where.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: I shared this, but I asked you if it was
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: already on the podcast and you said no.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember. I'm not from the last
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: few weeks anyway.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: He says, a contemporary word of Jesus's comparison of God's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: kind of love, agape, and what normally passes for love
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: might be, quote, this is from Sermon on the Mount.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: What's so great if you love those who love you?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Terrorists do that. And if that's all your love amounts to,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: God certainly is not involved. Or suppose you're friendly to, quote,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: our kind of people. So is the mafia, Matthew 5,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: 46 through 47. Now reflect, has your heart gone out
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: in generous blessing to someone who has insulted or humiliated you?
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Can you work without thought of gain for the well-being
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: of someone who openly despises you, maybe who has told
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you to drop dead? Are you enthusiastically pulling for the
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: success of someone competing with you for favor, position, or
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: financial gain? That is what those possessed and permeated by
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: God's kind of love find themselves doing. So, I mean,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: this is when, you know, he says, so what if
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: you love your family, then the wicked do that, right?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: And so he's just saying, yeah, let's put it in
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the modern terms, the mafia or terrorists or whoever. I mean,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think that there is a there's a lot of
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: talk right now about what loving your neighbor means.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: We talked about that, I think, a few weeks back.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But I think once again, he's going into the heart
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: of how do you evaluate the love of Christ versus
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the love of the world?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Because I do believe we all have this.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Inherited part of our being, whether we believe in God or.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Confess Jesus as Lord or any of those things.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: We have this inherited nature from God that expects good
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: things and We we somehow still say stay in general
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: within some sort of nuclear.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Circle of relationships.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: He's saying that I think we forget this, that the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: love of Christ is actually really radical and profound.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And it can be in Jesus was not ambiguous about this.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we really are acting very confused sometimes.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We're playing the fool. Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Like this is like almost all he talked about.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You know, this is the main thing.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: He was like, it's good to have your circles and
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: this extends outside of your circles. Right. If it's really,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: if it's really real, it's going to extend outside of
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: your circle.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've told the church on plenty of occasions,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: like the thing that makes someone who believes in Jesus
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: different is supposed to make us different than the rest
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of the world is the way we love our enemies.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: It's the way that we love others as Christ loves us,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and we were his enemies. I mean, this is the scripture.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: So you take all the things. Love your neighbor as yourself.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and strength, all those things. Love one another as I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: have loved you. Love and bless your enemies, right? Pray
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: for them who spitefully use you and persecute you. You
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: put these things together. Don't just think of them as enemies.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: You know, just one-offs or isolated statements, proverbial statements of
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a wise man. And understand that these are the basis
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of the theology. And I hate to use that sort
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of cryptic term about it because it takes all the
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: life out of it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: This is the basis of the life in Christ. Think
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Jesus did all of that. He loved God with everything
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: he had. He loved us more than he loved himself.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Then he taught, he loved us as the Father loved him,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: which is what he was passing on to the disciples.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: He said, love each other as I have loved you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And then he loved his enemies to the point of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: forgiving them on the cross. And I think that when
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: we say the gospel is wrapped up in love or
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you can't have a gospel without love, we're usually talking
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: about an earthly definition. And Jesus was an earthly definition
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: as well because the kingdom of God came to earth.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But we're not thinking of it in terms of the
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: way that he said it. And so it's easy to go, oh, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you're just sure, sure, love people. But as long as
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I love my family, as long as I love those
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: in my circle. And yes, I don't want to wish
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: harm on people. But and so I think the point
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of all this is, is you can't do this. There's
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: a reason that we default back to the worldly love. Yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: because you can't do this unless, as he said, you're
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: being possessed and permeated by God's kind of love. inside
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: of you, something is being transformed or being formed into
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: something different. And so I just, you know, for me, man,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I asked that question, has my heart gone out in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: generous blessing to someone who has insulted or humiliated me?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And I love that. Has my heart gone out?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like there was someone today I thought of and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, my heart is not in the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: best place towards that person, but in Christ, right? The
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: spirit reminds me, that I can bless them, pray for them,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: pray for good things for them, that I don't have
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to sit here in the justice of it all. Because
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I could be right in the equation, but being right
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: before God.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Is this person in the room with you?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: There may be a green light shining on them right now.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: No, but I agree with you about the first part
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: about if you only love people that love you, that's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: not what we're talking about. It's important to make that
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: distinction because like Norm Macdonald, who's on my Mount Rushmore
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of comedians. I think he's just one of the best ever. And,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: but he had a special called Hitler's dog. And it
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: was basically like, even Hitler's dog loved him. Hitler had
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: a dog that loved him. You know what I'm saying?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Like this idea of just like things that we don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: think are normal that like evil people had. these same
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: they have family that goes well if you knew Hitler
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: like I know Hitler you know what people so but
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: our love is in danger if we're not careful of
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: just being super transactional and it's like yeah I love
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you to the point that you inconvenience me and then
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that love is very conditional and so That's not real.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Like you said, it's just an earthly version. And it
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: has these limitations that cause suffering, basically. When they reach
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: their limitations, that's where the suffering takes over. But yeah,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I think about myself. Like you said, I have people
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: that I'm maybe at odds with or have certain ways
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: of thinking about them. But am I praying for them?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Am I extending my heart to them? It's hard. It's
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: hard work. And a lot of people are not willing
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: to put in that work.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: But this is what's crazy, and I do say this
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a lot over the years to the church. Whatever it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: is we think the work of being a Christ follower is.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: So we're doing something else we consider to be hard work.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: We're working at something.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: If it's not this, then at best we're not at
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the center of the bullseye.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: We're somewhere on the outer rings of this thing.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Like if for some reason, because I always tell them, like, look,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: if people want to know, just like the rich young ruler,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: what do I got to do, right?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: What do I got to do to get to heaven?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: What do I got to do?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Right. And it's like, I think, I always tell them,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: if you spend your life trying to be authentic and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in confession and pursuing one another, because we're in a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: group together and it's constant need to regroup. And go, okay, well, guys,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: none of us texted this week. You know, what are
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: we going to do this week now? You got to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: keep picking up from what feels like failure and keep going.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Same thing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: And I have to confess sins all the time of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: things I've been confessing my whole life that I'm still,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I'm better.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And there's seasons I'm not.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And above all, choosing to love someone else whenever I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: have all the.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Reasons not to. If I do all of these things,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it will keep me busy doing the right things. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: won't have time. to be elsewhere.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And if I find I have ample time to be
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: elsewhere amount around other quote unquote Christian, uh, pursuits that
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: aren't at least built upon this, then I don't think
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I can do both. I think, I think you have
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to choose. I can't, I can't be an angry militant
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Christian and be doing this. Like I can't, there's no
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: way you can do both of those things. Um, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I have to decide, um, Every day. There were some
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: days I feel like the angry militant Christian, right? But
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I think that's the life in Christ is being called
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: back to this. I want to, again, be permeated by
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: God's kind of love.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So anyway, just interesting.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm rooting for you. I think you can get there,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: but you're not there yet. And let's keep working. John,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: let's do my segments. Let's start with Johnny's old jokes.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: We call it joke about that.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: John, a man walks into the doctor's office with a
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: hot dog in his ear and a stalk of celery
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: up his nose and says, Doc, what's wrong with me?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: And the doctor says, You're not eating properly. Let's move forward.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: This week in history, John.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was quick.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: We call it Talk About Then. John Albert Einstein was born.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Guys, you're not eating properly. Sorry, go ahead.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: John Albert Einstein was born this week in 1879. Wow.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: He was a German-born American, Nobel-winning physicist and mathematician. What
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: do you know about Einstein? When I say Einstein, what
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: do you think immediately? Like, give me your.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Theory of relativity?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Theory of relativity. But what does that mean?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Really? You don't even know?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Did he do string theory?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Wasn't that... Who did string theory?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I think that was Sheldon from... Big bang theory.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: No, I.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: It was... I don't know what string theory is, but yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what he did, John. He was a
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Nobel winning physicist and mathematician. He developed the theory of relativity,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: so you're right about that. He also developed mass equivalence formula.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, I use that a lot.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: E equals MC squared.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: That's energy equals.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Mass times C squared.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Man, we're dumb people. We're going to get some letters
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: from this one.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: What is C? Circumference? That can't be right. No, because
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: we're in a mess.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: See, I don't know. By the age of 26, John,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: by the age of 26, think about how old you
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: are and what you've accomplished. Well. Let's just go there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make this about you versus Einstein,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: but you're no Einstein.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: It's interesting that You call somebody Einstein when you mean
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: they're a dummy.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Like it's always as a particular, like, okay, Einstein.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Where's your phone, Einstein?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I think that's a Gaffigan bit.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: By the age of 26, he had published four groundbreaking papers. Wow.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Photoelectric effect, Brownian motion, which I don't know what that
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: is either, special relativity, and the equivalence of mass and energy.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: He would go on to publish more than 300 scientific papers.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: He was visiting the, I didn't know this about it,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: but I guess it makes sense. He was visiting the U.S.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: when Adolf Hitler came to power in 33. Being Jewish,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: he did not want to return to Germany, and so
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that's why eventually he became a U.S. citizen.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: That was a well-timed trip.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, buddy. His quote, this is a quote from him.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: There are many quotes, obviously, of Einstein. I've never heard
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: this one, so I thought it would include it. Two
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: not sure about the universe. That's great. That's almost like Twain.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: It is. It's like if Twain was Einstein.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, always.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: When I think of Einstein, I think about, I haven't
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: researched this, but everyone always says that he did really
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: poorly in school as a kid, in grade school, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: was considered almost.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Like a dunce in the class. I think that was
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a myth, right? I don't know. I think that was
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: a myth.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Almost like he was neurodivergent.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe. And I think that's a myth, too, because I've
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: read that before. He had great grades. And then I've
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: seen it with Jordan, too, right? Michael Jordan, he got
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: cut from his high school team. And that's when he
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: was like, blah, blah, blah. And I've heard that was like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it's a very exaggerated story because he still played on
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: like his junior high team. He just didn't get to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: play varsity in his ninth grade year or something like that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It says Albert Einstein did struggle in school, particularly with
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: rigid curriculums. He dropped out at 15 and decided to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: educate himself at 16 and took a college entrance exam,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: passing math and science, but failing language and history. Despite rumors,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Einstein never failed math.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: That's what you were probably hearing.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: He was a brilliant mathematician and excelled in school from
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: an early age. But he did drop out at 15.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: He had that big noggin. We can link brain size
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to intelligence or intelligence quotient now.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: There are studies about that. P-brain, that really is the thing.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: People with huge brains generally have propensity. It's not guaranteed,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: but propensity to be smarter.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: When they have like a dearth of knowledge, that's what
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you're saying.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: That's what.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: See previous episodes if you're a new listener.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: John, this week, 1994, the famous 1934 surgeon's photo, in quotes,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: reportedly taken by Colonel Robert Wilson of the Loch Ness Monster,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: is called a hoax in a deathbed confession by Chris Sperling,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: who claimed he helped create the photo. So this guy,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: It's famous, the one that kind of looks like a
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: finger coming out of the– they call it the surgeon's photo.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: But in a deathbed confession, he was like, all right.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: But he carried it all the way.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And he was part of that photo. And in 1994–
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: but there are people who still believe– that's what's odd
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: about today's culture is you can admit it was a hoax,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: and there are still people who have sunk cost in
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the hoax that will be like, Yeah, but what did
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: he have to gain by admitting it? So we can't
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: really even trust the guy who says that it was
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: a lie now.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It was like he was dying.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Because I have so much invested in the lie. So anyway,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the Loch Ness Monster. Don't go to Loch Ness Lake
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: looking for it because.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: You know what Loch means, right?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: What?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Lake.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: That's what they call their lakes.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: It's Lake Ness Lake. The Lake Ness Monster. I always
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: thought it was just called Loch Ness Lake. Is this
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Loch Ness there? Is it not Loch Ness Lake?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's just Loch Ness.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: It's like a... Tongue twister.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I'm saying our word is lake. They say lock.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: But I've always heard Loch Ness Lake.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of that. The Loch Ness Monster lives
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: in a Loch Ness lake.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what the Americans do.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: He lives in Loch Ness.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he lives in Loch Ness is my understanding.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to not like Loch Ness section of our show. John,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: this week, 1951, Hank Ketchum's comic strip Dennis the Menace debuts.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: It was based on his real-life son, Dennis Ketchum, who
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: earned the nickname Dennis the Menace when he was four
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: years old. This is kind of a– I included this because, like,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: let's say Sadie was a holy terror when she was
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: a kid. And now you're like, okay.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Sadie from Hades or whatever.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's make a thing. Let's make a comic strip
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: called Sadie from Hades. Yeah. How would she feel about that?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess if it paid for college.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: That's true. But then she's known as that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's like Wendy.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: She's got to walk around college and just be like, oh,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: this is Sadie from Hades.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Like, Wendy is forever in pigtails on a sign.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As a girl with freckles and stuff.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: But she also– It has a pretty nice house, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: would say.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Probably so.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: It's a good gig.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And good burgers. More people should do square burgers.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I agree. You get that extra little corners of the—
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know what we're thinking. What about a round
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: burger on a square bun? That's not as good.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be too much bread.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It is too much bread.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: You've got to have an equal distribution.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Or unequal beef-wise.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I could take extra beef.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: You want the beef to be more.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: We're going to fix it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Good thoughts.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: John, this week, the first fireside chat happened. What year?
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know who it was.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: First fireside chat, I'm going to call 1931.
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  Speaker 3: 33. Do you know how many days after taking office
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: it was?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, he wasn't elected until 33?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it just says eight days after taking office, he
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: did this.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, my bad.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: The first fireside chat. Here's why. This is interesting.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Hoover was still in the 30s.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Especially given the climate of media. Roosevelt felt that the
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: fledgling new medium of radio would help him counter the
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: conservative bias of newspapers at the time.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: So that's interesting that he thought this radio could help
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: me kind of level the playing field because the papers
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: had gotten so conservative.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Because they're probably run by all rich people. I mean,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: that's the thing. People used to... engage in these wars
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: back and forth because i own the paper i can
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: spread misinformation about you and disinformation and then you fight
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: back in your paper with your editorials i'm glad we're
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: beyond that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I tell you polemics is like at the root of
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: american history in terms of.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Well we need that yeah it is and we need
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: that it's to your point about uh our circles and
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: loving people outside of our circles those circles serve some
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: function in our broken minds yeah to To know who's
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: in and who's out. We need an other. We need
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: to other people.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: We need to otherize them.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: So that we can feel superior. There's something in us
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: that needs to do that. And I think media and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: like you said, polemics, it serves that role. And I
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: don't know why, but it just shows like we're broken,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: that we need it, that we need to go like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: not only am I right, let me tell you who's wrong.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: This further proves how right. Let me go dunk on
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: them for a minute. And you go, but why do
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I need that? Why do we spend our time looking
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: for that? Anyway, John, it is fun. Finally, easy too. Finally, John,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: this week, 1912, the Girl Scouts was founded, originally called
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: American Girl Guides, which I did not know that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: That's a good change.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: It's founded by Juliet Gordon Lowe.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Lowe.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Lock. Juliet Lock. Juliet Gordon Lowe. The name was later
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: changed to Girl Scouts. And the reason I included this
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: is I wanted to ask you, What do you consider
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the definitive Girl Scout cookie? Do you stay away?
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Samoas or Thin Mints.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Samoas is the peanut butter one, right? No. Oh. That's
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: a tag along.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: It's got like coconut in it, I think.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Some people don't like coconut. People feel very strongly about coconut.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: If you don't like coconut. What are you doing with
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: your life?
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: The shavings. I think people feel like, is this just
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: like a pile of fingernail clippings? It just feels weird.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: People don't like that texture of the shavings.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: But once you know that it came out of a coconut,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: then you should get past that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: And not fingernails.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Right, not fingernails.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: That's like saying potato chips. If you think of anything
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: crunchy that's nasty, you can't eat potato chips? No. I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: have a real thing. Andrew hates coconut, and I can't.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Although he'll eat coconut shrimp.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, dude.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Guys, if you don't want coconut at its best, wait,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: at its worst, then you can't have it at its best.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Wait. I think coconut shrimp is coconut at its best. Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Although coconut cream pie. Yeah. Pretty good. Or a coconut cake. Oh.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Good stuff.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like the Will Rogers of coconut.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: You never met it?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I've never met one I didn't like.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm a thin mince guy. I like them cold, though.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Thin them out of the freezer is pretty good. Put
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: them in the fridge or in the freezer, yeah? Yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: It's good, man. A sleeve. A sleeve. Like a sleeve.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: They go down fast.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's out of control.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: You know, my investment guy always says that the market
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: goes down on an elevator, but up on an escalator.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: And I think that's true for my weight gain and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: loss as well.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Except I go up on the escalator. Sorry.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: On the, on the, on the weight. I go up
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: fast and down slow. That's what I'm trying to say.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: So the sleeve of thin mints, that'll be, that'll be
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like two weeks of running.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: John, as we wrap the show, I'd like to say
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: you got a real way with words. And if you
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: want to learn more about John's writing, go to johndriver.com. John,
• 34:16
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• 34:18
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• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Talkaboutthatpodcast.com.
• 34:22
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• 34:25
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• 34:35
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• 34:39
  Speaker 3: My new tour dates are going up every day, johnnyw.com, J-O-N-N-I-E-W.com.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: And tickets are available. And I just came back from
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: a great run. We did a couple of comedy clubs.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: We did a fundraiser event. And then I did like
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a church event. It was just a great all-around cool weekend.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of miles, though. At one point, we went
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: from Port Charlotte, Florida, and did a 6 a.m. flight
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: to Tulsa, Oklahoma. which I don't recommend doing that to
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: your wife.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: She's been along for the ride on these and she's
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: really getting like, she's getting the full experience of like, Oh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: you did this by yourself. I go, yeah. Can you imagine?
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: And she's like, no.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I've been up with you at four before or three
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: 30 to go. And it's not fun. I couldn't do
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: it all the.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Time, but we did it. And we got, we told
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: the jokes and we got back and there's more dates
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: on the old calendar and we're adding new dates all
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: the time. And we'd love to see you at a
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: live show.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: If you'd like to go on the road with Johnny
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and wake up at 4 o'clock, just send him a message.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: By the way, radio, they do this thing called a tease. And,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: you know, your escalator talk, there's a tease for next week.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: So tune in next week for a little escalator. Might
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: make this week in history. It might make a little...
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: And it might even make Johnny's old jokes. Oh, wow.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Here we go. It might be a little combo.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: You're going to want to listen, guys.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: A hybrid of the two.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: We'll blend the two theme songs.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I wait with bated breath.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for the time you gave us today.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Let's do it again next week here
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: on Talk About That.