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Ep. 91: If You Can’t Shake the Fatigue, Bloat, or Brain Fog, Your Minerals Might Be Off with Katelyn [HTMA Series Part 4] · Love Your Gut

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  Dr. Heather Finley: Welcome to the Love Your Gut Podcast.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm your host, Dr.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Heather Finley, registered dietitian and gut health specialist.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I understand the frustration of dealing with GI issues because I've been there and I spent over two decades searching for answers for my own gut issues of constipation, bloating, and stomach pain.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I've dedicated my life to understanding and solving my own gut issues.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: And now I'm here to guide you.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: On this podcast, I'll help you identify the true root causes of your discomfort.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So you can finally ditch your symptoms for good.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: My goal is to empower you with the knowledge and tools you need so that you can love your gut and it will love you right back.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So if you're ready to learn a lot, gain a deeper understanding of your gut and find lasting relief.
• 0:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: You are in the right place.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Welcome to the love your gut podcast.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: And thanks for tuning in.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I am so excited for Black Friday! welcome to the next episode of the Love Your Gut podcast.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I am excited to have my friend Calin here today.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: This is her first podcast ever.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So this is exciting.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Bear with me, but Caitlin, welcome to the show.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm so excited to be here.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: This is honestly, one of my favorite things to talk about.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So let's, let's get into it.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So funny story of how we met.
• 1:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: So you work at my kids' dental office?
• 2:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: The first time I met you was because I had brought my kids in to get their teeth cleaned and I'm walking out and you're like, you're the hair lady.
• 2:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I was like, hi.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: And you're like, oh my gosh, I did the HTMA with your team.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: It was amazing, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then all of a sudden, like all the pieces came together.
• 2:21
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm like, oh yeah, Caitlin.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay.
• 2:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 2:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: You know, I, I had heard your name, et cetera, and so anyways, it's just kind of been a fun friendship that has built off of like being your lady at first.
• 2:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: So, yes.
• 2:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: Well, it was so funny because I had heard about you through my dentist and kind of thought it was.
• 2:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: Weird craziness.
• 2:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: And a lot of the things that she talks to me about at first, I think are weird craziness, and then I'm all all into it.
• 2:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: But I had watched a lot of your Instagram videos and started listening to your podcast and your children were getting X-rays.
• 2:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I was like, that voice sounds so familiar because I had literally just been listening to one of your podcasts and seen a lot of your Instagram reels and I saw your face and I just instantly was like, I just sent you my hair, and it was the weirdest introduction ever.
• 3:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: But I've been super happy to have found you.
• 3:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: Well, and the funniest part was the office ladies like looked at you like was crazy.
• 3:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was.
• 3:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was so funny.
• 3:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: So yeah, anyways, that's how this relationship was developed, but yes, yes.
• 3:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay.
• 3:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: So you heard about HTMA from the dentist that you work for, who had done TMA with us.
• 3:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: And like you said before we pressed record, she does hooky, wooy things.
• 3:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: And at first you were like, I'm not really sure about this.
• 3:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like, why are you doing this?
• 3:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: What's going on?
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So she told you about HT MA and then you decided to do it at actually kind of a weird time.
• 3:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: So you were, I don't know, four months pregnant when you decided to do HT MA.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So most people, I, I get a lot of questions like.
• 3:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'll just wait till I deliver, or if I am planning to try to get pregnant or if I am pregnant, like when is the best time?
• 3:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: And obviously you hadn't even talked to me, you just went ahead.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 4:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: And did it because you had been told to do it and that it would help.
• 4:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So what kind of pushed you over the edge to try HTMA at four months pregnant?
• 4:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, well, I had heard about it when I was pretty early pregnant, but before pregnancy.
• 4:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: I, and, and I think it's a little hindsight, like now looking back, I realize I had a lot more symptoms than I even thought in the moment.
• 4:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: But before pregnancy, I would go in just for my, like, yearly exams and things would be like normal, but.
• 4:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: Kind of on the low end of normal or blood work would be within normal limits, but kind of on the low end.
• 4:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: But I was experiencing a lot of symptoms.
• 4:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was roughly the same weight that I currently am, but I looked so puffy.
• 4:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was really bloated, having a lot of issues with digestion, acne.
• 4:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: but really in that specific moment, it was fatigue.
• 4:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was so tired all the time before pregnancy.
• 4:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like I know that pregnancy can, first trim after make you really tired, but before that, I would get home from a full day of work.
• 4:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: Working in pediatric dentistry and be so tired that I didn't wanna do anything and I was in my, like, late twenties and it just didn't feel normal.
• 5:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm normally very energetic and I was just feeling really, really sluggish.
• 5:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then when I got pregnant, it was just only magnified.
• 5:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: and I wasn't getting any, getting many answers.
• 5:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: For why my blood work was looking a little off plus symptoms.
• 5:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then really, I guess looking back, one of the main things that I was like, I need to speak to this lady is my hair was just like falling off before pregnancy or falling out in clumps and I couldn't figure out why.
• 5:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I was having a lot of thyroid dysfunction like symptoms without a lot of answers on why so.
• 5:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: it just happened to be that I found you and was willing to pull the trigger four months pregnant.
• 5:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: and I was so glad that I did.
• 5:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay.
• 5:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: That's so helpful.
• 5:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: So you were having a lot of symptoms prior to pregnancy and then, like you said, pregnancy can just magnify.
• 5:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 5:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: Especially fatigue and hormone symptoms that were there before.
• 5:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, but around that four month mark is when you should start getting your energy back when you're pregnant.
• 6:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 6:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: You weren't experiencing that, you're still so tired.
• 6:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: So you decide to do HTMA.
• 6:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: What was the experience like?
• 6:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Cutting your hair, sending it in, and kinda waiting?
• 6:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: Waiting for those results, I guess.
• 6:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: What did you think you were gonna see?
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Or were you worried that your results were gonna say everything was normal because everything else had been normal?
• 6:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: What was kind of going through your mind?
• 6:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: Absolutely.
• 6:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: I well.
• 6:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: First I was just worried, you know, I'm not a type of person that likes to go to the doctor and then say, oh, you're fine.
• 6:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: 'cause then it feels like, oh my gosh, I thought something was wrong and it's not wrong.
• 6:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or really be concerned and be met with, like it's within a real limits, even though you're telling me you're experiencing symptoms.
• 6:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I don't really know what I expected at this point.
• 6:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: I had just developed a good enough relationship with my dentist that anything she says, I'm like, I'm all for.
• 6:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you speak so.
• 6:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: Eloquently and passionately about the things that you can help on your podcast and on your social media platforms that I was really just sold and hoping that you were gonna help me find something.
• 7:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: Now when you sent us the little kit to cut your hair, I was honestly like, oh my gosh, I'm about to get so much of my hair that I'm already worried is falling out and it's.
• 7:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: Very minimal.
• 7:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: It looks like a whole lot and then you do it.
• 7:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: And now I'm due for my next one and not a big deal at all.
• 7:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I wasn't really certain what I was getting myself into, but knew I just wanted to find some results and was honestly floored when I did my intake with one of your other colleagues.
• 7:33
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, I told her at the end, you need to up your prices.
• 7:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: I feel like this is like the most informative.
• 7:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: It felt like she was looking back into my past and knowing everything that had aligned in all my symptoms without.
• 7:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: Me telling her all of these things.
• 7:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: Isn't it crazy?
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Like what type of patterns we can tell based on someone's minerals about your life or about how you feel without even you telling us?
• 7:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
• 7:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was like, did I put this?
• 7:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: Did I write all this down somewhere?
• 7:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you're just looking at it and she's like, no, I'm just kind of assuming.
• 8:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: No, that is the cool thing about the ratios is so when you get your report back, and you've done HTMA now twice, and so you've seen your report, but the first page, it has all of your minerals on it and it has toxic heavy metals.
• 8:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: So things like.
• 8:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: You know, uranium, mercury, aluminum, et cetera.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: But the second page is actually, I think, where the magic is because it shows the ratios of minerals.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 8:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I talk about this a lot.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: You know how minerals are kind of like a symphony, so we're not.
• 8:30
  Dr. Heather Finley: As focused on if magnesium is low or magnesium is high, it's more like what's magnesium in relation to all these other minerals.
• 8:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: But each ratio means something.
• 8:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: So we can tell how burnout someone is, how exhausted someone is.
• 8:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 8:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: That their thyroid might be struggling.
• 8:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: Uh, how stressed you are.
• 8:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: Possible.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: Even infections.
• 8:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: There's actually an infection ratio, and when it's high, it can mean something.
• 8:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: When it's low, it can mean something.
• 8:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
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  Dr. Heather Finley: So we often hear that from clients.
• 8:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: We're like, man, you must feel really burnt out or.
• 9:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: Did you have COVID a couple months ago because this ratio is showing us that, possibly there's a virus going on, or do you feel really hypoglycemic after meals?
• 9:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: And people are like, how do you know that?
• 9:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 9:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: And it's crazy because it's driven by minerals and we often jump to like other things, which it sounds like you had already tried a lot of things for your energy and your hair falling out.
• 9:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 9:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Kinda walk us through what you had tried that maybe helped a little or didn't help at all, um, especially because you had been told everything was normal.
• 9:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: You probably felt like you were just kind of throwing things at yourself.
• 9:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 9:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: I hadn't really done much for the hair loss.
• 9:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was really kind of at a loss for why it was happening.
• 9:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: As far as my weight though, that's one that I felt like I had kind of thrown the kitchen sink at in my, it wasn't really fluctuation.
• 9:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: I just always felt really puffy, bloated, and had a lot of GI issues.
• 9:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, I would kind of toggle between.
• 9:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: Constipation, diarrhea, and just like my family, my friends knew like you, I don't go to out to eat, out to eat very well because I was always really nervous that it wasn't gonna make me feel very good or I would know I want to indulge in this food.
• 10:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's a self-harm day.
• 10:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like we're, we're going to eat this and it's not gonna make me feel very good, which is not very fun.
• 10:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I had kind of limited my diet, um, or tried things that were more like safe foods.
• 10:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, and then to try and kick the weight I had really.
• 10:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: For a little while, I was going to Orangetheory and Burn Bootcamp every single day.
• 10:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was a coach at Orangetheory for a while, so I was really immersed in, in that.
• 10:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: We're gonna go and we're gonna go often, and I was just not seeing results.
• 10:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was really plateaued.
• 10:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was very tired all of the time, and I just attributed it to a busy lifestyle.
• 10:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: So then I kind of went the complete opposite and I stopped working out with high intensity and would just go on walks every day and did no other working out with not a whole lot of.
• 10:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: Benefit for the way that I felt or the way that I felt that I looked.
• 10:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: and it wasn't until I added the minerals in that I saw big changes there at kind of a silly time because I was five months pregnant and started to see results.
• 11:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I think it's easy in your brain to say, oh, well this is a specific season of life, so maybe that's what it is.
• 11:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: But I tell anyone and everyone, I attribute so much of my last leg of pregnancy and postpartum to the minerals.
• 11:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then I guess before I had a custom blend, I would kind of dabble with like Elementis or other similar brands, uh, without realizing that like you're talking about the symphony of my minerals were off.
• 11:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so just hitting it with things that weren't quite custom blends weren't really giving me benefit.
• 11:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, another really lovely piece of what you guys do was the diet.
• 11:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: Education on how I can change my diet, what I'm already doing to beef up my potassium intake or, uh, my sodium intake.
• 11:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: So then it really helped me guide my food intake to a way that was better suited for how I was going to feel and get proper minerals.
• 11:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, and that's been a really huge part of my transformation with minerals.
• 12:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay.
• 12:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: So everyone's probably thinking you're five months pregnant, you're adding in minerals, you're doing all these things.
• 12:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Was it hard or was it time consuming, or do you feel like it was really easy to integrate into your life for like such a big payoff?
• 12:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was the easiest.
• 12:21
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I think that that is one of the best things I did in that moment was just get the custom blend because I was pregnant and I wanted to see results kind of quick and I mean, it's just as simple as like dropping it in your water.
• 12:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, I kind of made it through the season of life where, or the season of pregnancy rather, where I was super nauseous.
• 12:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, I thought that would be a big deal.
• 12:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like, oh, I'm not gonna be able to drink this.
• 12:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's gonna make me feel sick, but it's very easy.
• 12:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: I would add it to my smoothie.
• 12:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: Some days I would add it to, um, just a quick shot in the morning at nighttime.
• 12:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, or mix it in, like I said, with a smoothie.
• 12:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was very, very easy and streamlined.
• 12:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then the diet modification that you guys gave me, basically I told them what I kind of eat in a day.
• 13:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: At that moment in time, I was pretty routine.
• 13:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: I would eat similar things for breakfast, lunch and change dinner up a little bit.
• 13:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: So like I would have a smoothie for breakfast and they would, you guys would just give me information on what to add to my already existing smoothie routine to beef up what I needed.
• 13:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: So there wasn't.
• 13:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: A lot of changes that needed to be made other than what I put in my grocery list.
• 13:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Amazing.
• 13:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you started noticing changes.
• 13:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: You started slowly changing your diet.
• 13:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: Where did you fall then with exercise?
• 13:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: Do you feel like you had the energy to maybe do what you wanted to do, but didn't feel like you had to just grind all the time?
• 13:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, or I mean, obviously there's the pregnancy portion of like, yeah, the pregnancy things change, so that's a little different.
• 13:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: But where are you at now I guess with that?
• 13:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: Honestly, that is probably my favorite thing to shout to people is in a season of pregnancy when it would be so easy for me to just go sit on the couch.
• 13:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was pregnant through the summer in Texas and I started my minerals probably I got the blend when I was five months and started the routine right away and all the way until the day I delivered.
• 14:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: I would go on an hour walk with my dog at nighttime and felt great.
• 14:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, had a whole lot of energy.
• 14:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: Obviously the normal like pregnancy slumps, but enough energy to want to go for a walk every single day.
• 14:21
  Dr. Heather Finley: And have continued that afterwards.
• 14:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: Don't feel like to feel the weight that I'm supposed to be at or look the way that I feel like I should look and not puffy and bloated.
• 14:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: Not really about weight, but more just about the presentation and like how puffy my face was and my stomach and bloated.
• 14:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: I do a couple of days of strength training and a lot of walking.
• 14:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I feel like I've been able to maintain.
• 14:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: A weight that is comfortable for me, that's healthy for me, um, but more importantly that I feel good doing all of that and I have the energy to do it with a 14 month old.
• 14:54
  Dr. Heather Finley: Which is not easy chasing around 14 month old.
• 14:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 14:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: One thing that I thought I would mention related to your custom blend, so, in, in case this is new to anybody that's listening, if you're just getting familiar with HT MA, one of the cool things that we can do based on your results is we can actually custom formulate a mineral powder for you.
• 15:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 15:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: And it sounds like it might be like.
• 15:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: More expensive or like really out of reach, but it actually ends up being more affordable than like buying even just LM T or Potassium Cocktail or whatever mineral products you're buying because it's custom to you.
• 15:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: It has everything you need.
• 15:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: And for you, it replaced your prenatal vitamins as well.
• 15:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: Oh yeah.
• 15:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes, yes, yes.
• 15:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, which was so lovely.
• 15:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: And to speak to that, I actually just had my husband.
• 15:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: Get his HTA test and get his results because he is that person that wants to be health and wellness and will spend hundreds of dollars on this supplement and this green powder and this supplement.
• 15:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you add it all up and you do realize, oh my gosh, I should have just done this from the get go.
• 15:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: And he's a, a budget guy and numbers guy.
• 15:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: And when I showed him, he was like, oh man, I didn't even realize it was spinning.
• 16:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: 'cause he, he would get in.
• 16:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Weeks said, okay, I'm gonna do this green powder.
• 16:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then when it didn't really make him feel good, he would kind of find a different thing.
• 16:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: And he's felt so much better with just his custom blend'cause it's what he needs.
• 16:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: He's not blindly guessing at what he should be fueling his body with.
• 16:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: Amazing.
• 16:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: So speaking of your husband, I remember you telling me when we came back in for a dental cleaning.
• 16:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: So then at this point, so the first time I saw you, you were like five, four or five months pregnant, and then the next time was, or maybe this was the third time, um, I'm not sure.
• 16:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: Maybe there would've been a time in between there, but you were like three months.
• 16:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: Postpartum.
• 16:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 16:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or a couple months postpartum.
• 16:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: You had just come back to work and you're like, I'm so excited to do another test and just see where I'm at.
• 16:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you told me, you're like, my husband told me I have to stop freaking people out talking to them about minerals.
• 16:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: You're like, yes.
• 16:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: Everywhere I go, I tell people about minerals and finally my husband was like, you gotta stop because people might wanna hear about this.
• 17:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
• 17:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 17:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: But now he's completely flipped.
• 17:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: We were buying our, the home that we currently live in, and our realtor is one of our friends and she was just kind of venting to us about some similar issues.
• 17:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was not present at this moment.
• 17:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was upstairs looking and Chad was like, you should talk to Caitlyn.
• 17:18
  Dr. Heather Finley: She's, she's really into this mineral thing and it sounds like they are having a lot of the similar concerns.
• 17:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: And she went and got a mineral test.
• 17:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: So Amazing.
• 17:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: I love it.
• 17:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: So now she's on, on board with it.
• 17:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 17:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: That's so funny.
• 17:30
  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay, so you did a second test when you were, you know, three-ish months postpartum.
• 17:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 17:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: What was that experience like?
• 17:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: Do you feel like, you know, maybe it's a little foggy just because you were postpartum.
• 17:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: Do you feel like it kind of built on your previous results?
• 17:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or what motivated you, I guess, to do a second test and just kind of continue on on the path?
• 17:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, I think I was motivated.
• 17:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I was at this point out of my custom blend and just relying on my, um.
• 17:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: Diet for minerals, but I wanted to, you and I had spoke at your children's cleaning.
• 18:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, I promise I cleaned your kids' teeth, but we talk a lot during these appointments about ourselves.
• 18:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: We're usually there for like a long time.
• 18:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm sure that they're like, this is not efficient.
• 18:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
• 18:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Their clients.
• 18:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
• 18:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I was.
• 18:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: You know, in early postpartum and still feeling okay.
• 18:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: But, um, I was breastfeeding at the time and wanted to make sure that my supply stayed up.
• 18:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: I had kind of started, life gets busy and I wasn't cooking the same way that I was previously.
• 18:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: I also wanted to check in because it was such a, an odd time to get my first HTMA test during pregnancy to see what had changed.
• 18:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: Afterwards because I was in such a season of depletion with being pregnant and then being postpartum and breastfeeding to see how things had changed.
• 18:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: I know that in a lot of your podcasts and social media.
• 18:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: Things you talk about, that's a season where your depletion is pretty high.
• 18:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I wanted to see, I'm a big numbers person, so I wanted to see while I was pregnant and then afterwards had I made any changes with this custom blend.
• 19:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like was the juice worth the squeeze, was what I paid for really helping and in a numbers perspective.
• 19:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: and I just was feeling kind of tired but newborn.
• 19:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I knew the four month.
• 19:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: Postpartum hair loss was coming for me hard, and I didn't want it to happen.
• 19:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: So again, selfishly, that's probably one of the like largest reasons I went through and did it because I felt so good during my time on custom Blend.
• 19:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, and I was really glad that I did because when I did my intake assessment again after the test had come back, we had seen a lot of really good changes in the, not just each individual piece, but their, How they work together.
• 19:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'm forgetting the word right now, but the, the ratios between each of the minerals had improved, which was huge in a time of such depletion.
• 19:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: That was something that really surprised, not surprised me because we see this all the time, but something I was pleased with was just your second test.
• 20:00
  Dr. Heather Finley: Had improved actually from your first test?
• 20:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
• 20:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: And some things were a little off, and needed more improvement, but like a lot of things had started to stabilize, which was really cool to see.
• 20:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like you, we saw some of the higher things that were out of balance come down and some of the lower things start to come up.
• 20:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 20:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: Which was really good.
• 20:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: So you embarked on your second custom blend and you're finished with that now, so.
• 20:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 20:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Walk us through like kind of how you're feeling now, where you're at what you're kind of doing on a daily basis to support your mineral needs.
• 20:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: Just'cause, you know, we definitely tell our clients like, you don't always have to have a custom blend.
• 20:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: There's like seasons where it's super convenient and seasons where like you can do it with diet and with mineral mocktails and, and all the things as well.
• 20:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: So what does that look like for you now?
• 20:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 20:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: So, on a day, like I, like she said, I'm done with my custom blend and so on a day-to-day basis, we just make sure to get, I still have that list printed off for my second HTA test of food groups to help add into my diet to help support my potassium and sodium.
• 21:04
  Dr. Heather Finley: So on a daily basis, diet modifications for what we're cooking.
• 21:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: But, I enjoy element tea and so it's kind of my like, afternoon pick me up.
• 21:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: Mm-hmm.
• 21:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: I do that or my water with Redmond salt to help support my sodium'cause it was really low.
• 21:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: And those are really like the two things I, how I wanted to do it this time was extend a little time between htma attest and Htma attest to see if my diet, if I could sustain it with diet or if I continued to need.
• 21:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: Support of the minerals.
• 21:33
  Dr. Heather Finley: but I still feel really great and haven't felt the the strong need to go back.
• 21:38
  Dr. Heather Finley: I do want to, and I'll probably do it when you run your little next special but just modifications in my day to day and I felt really good.
• 21:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: Still a great amount of energy, not feeling that slump that I had before.
• 21:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: And not a lot has changed other than I have like more on my plate now.
• 21:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I should be in a.
• 21:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: More depleted, more tired state, but I'm not at the end of the day, which is, is so lovely.
• 22:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: So yeah, just diet and you know, not prescription or, custom blends, just elementis or things over the counter like that.
• 22:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: Love it.
• 22:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: And that's, I mean, ultimately the goal is minerals are, are dynamic.
• 22:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: They're always changing with diet and stress levels and sleep.
• 22:16
  Dr. Heather Finley: And we only get minerals from what we eat.
• 22:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: But you know, a lot of clients that come to us are really depleted like we saw on your first test.
• 22:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: And you can kind of think of it like.
• 22:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: Digging a pool in your backyard if the pool is completely empty because you have this big ditch, we're gonna need to bring in buckets Yeah.
• 22:35
  Dr. Heather Finley: And bulldozers of water.
• 22:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: But eventually that pool starts to fill up and it's just kind of maintenance over time.
• 22:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 22:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like what do you, what do you need on a daily basis, to kind of keep the, levels balanced?
• 22:46
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so maybe you go through a stressful season or you have another kid, or you're breastfeeding again or, or whatever, and you.
• 22:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: Go back on something more custom than just kind of maintaining it on a day-to-day basis.
• 22:57
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:59
  Dr. Heather Finley: Okay.
• 23:00
  Dr. Heather Finley: So.
• 23:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: What would you say to someone who maybe feels like you do?
• 23:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like they're really tired.
• 23:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: Their labs are normal.
• 23:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: They, their hair's falling out.
• 23:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: They have tried several things and not really gotten anywhere.
• 23:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: They feel really puffy.
• 23:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: They feel inflamed.
• 23:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: Or I guess, what are you telling your friends since your husband was like, you need to stop talking to people about this.
• 23:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: What do you, what are you telling people about minerals or what would you like somebody to hear if they're curious about this?
• 23:28
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, so you talk a lot about minerals being the building blocks to like everything.
• 23:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: And so I just spew that to anyone that will listen if they're telling me they're having concerns.
• 23:39
  Dr. Heather Finley: So if friends, even if they're not really talking to me, they're talking around me, I still will do it.
• 23:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: You know, it's, it's the building blocks to your hormone production, the building blocks to, to all things.
• 23:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: And what's.
• 23:51
  Dr. Heather Finley: What do you have to lose?
• 23:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: If you are feeling these things and you're trying a lot of things, why not try this, but get something that's custom for you and get results based on like what you're actually experiencing and what's depleted in your body.
• 24:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was such an easy addition into my day-to-day with such.
• 24:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: Huge results.
• 24:09
  Dr. Heather Finley: And the, I feel like knowledge is power, but knowledge with implementation is so much more so.
• 24:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: It was like, I knew this about myself.
• 24:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: I knew I was depleted in these areas, but I had something to implement to like really move the needle of that, like my knowledge of where I was.
• 24:23
  Dr. Heather Finley: So just telling people like it's pretty.
• 24:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: Easy to get started to know your answers.
• 24:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then it's not like you have to do the custom blend.
• 24:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: You could just choose to take your information and do some diet modifications to see what goes on.
• 24:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: But, if you're having issues like the stomach issues, that was the biggest one for me.
• 24:42
  Dr. Heather Finley: This bout of.
• 24:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: Am I an, am I not going to be able to eat these things or will I, will I not feel good?
• 24:48
  Dr. Heather Finley: Will I be able to go on vacation and feel okay?
• 24:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: Like all of those things, it's just your quality of life and when you're in it, you don't realize how much it affects your life until you're not in it anymore and you're look back and you're like, man, I cannot believe that I let that go on for so long, or didn't realize that there was something that I could do to help.
• 25:06
  Dr. Heather Finley: And on that note, I guess, how long did it really take you to start seeing results?
• 25:11
  Dr. Heather Finley: Because I think oftentimes we think like this is gonna take forever.
• 25:15
  Dr. Heather Finley: You know, it's gonna take months for me to start seeing results.
• 25:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: And obviously everybody's journey is different.
• 25:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: But for you, what did that look like?
• 25:24
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah, so that's one thing I guess I didn't mention before, but I was struggling with a lot of acid reflux, just issues and.
• 25:32
  Dr. Heather Finley: Before pregnancy.
• 25:34
  Dr. Heather Finley: it was very odd.
• 25:36
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I would really restrict my diet there.
• 25:37
  Dr. Heather Finley: And in pregnancy I was still experiencing that because, well, pregnant.
• 25:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: But the second I gave birth, it was like literally all gone.
• 25:44
  Dr. Heather Finley: And that was so, so lovely.
• 25:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: But then other things like my hair started growing back.
• 25:50
  Dr. Heather Finley: I think you, you came in for, Cleaning with your kids.
• 25:53
  Dr. Heather Finley: A couple of months after I had started, I was still pregnant and I remember telling you, I went into the lobby and I was like, my hair is growing back so long.
• 26:01
  Dr. Heather Finley: Look at all these new baby hairs.
• 26:03
  Dr. Heather Finley: My husband had even noticed it, and boys don't notice a whole lot of things.
• 26:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I was so excited about that.
• 26:08
  Dr. Heather Finley: And that was just a couple of months with like actual regrowth, but I just felt really.
• 26:13
  Dr. Heather Finley: Really good.
• 26:14
  Dr. Heather Finley: During the last stages of my pregnancy, uh, my OB even joked like, oh my gosh, you're gonna have so many kids.
• 26:20
  Dr. Heather Finley: You're like, loving pregnancy.
• 26:22
  Dr. Heather Finley: Because I just felt really energetic, really good.
• 26:26
  Dr. Heather Finley: I wasn't having a lot of the fluctuations in energy.
• 26:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: I did, I just felt really good.
• 26:31
  Dr. Heather Finley: And then it continued over to preg or to postpartum.
• 26:33
  Dr. Heather Finley: I feel like that was one thing that I worried about, like maybe I am just a really good pregnant person and when I have this baby, a lot of my problems are gonna come back.
• 26:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: And it didn't in a time when you would really expect to be so depleted.
• 26:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was obviously tired, I had a newborn, but energy to do things,, didn't have big tummy issues.
• 26:52
  Dr. Heather Finley: The reflux was completely gone, which was so worth it for me and my.
• 26:56
  Dr. Heather Finley: Skin had really cleared up a whole lot.
• 26:58
  Dr. Heather Finley: I was having a lot of issues up and down with just acne.
• 27:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: I'd been on birth control for quite a few years.
• 27:05
  Dr. Heather Finley: That had contributed to a lot of the concerns and even acne medications, topical, but oral medications that I've been able to get off of.
• 27:12
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I think it, it definitely has played a, a, a huge component in it.
• 27:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: So pretty quick results.
• 27:19
  Dr. Heather Finley: It's so amazing and it continues to just amaze me with all the clients we see, just how many things minerals can help.
• 27:27
  Dr. Heather Finley: You know, you can like take hormones for this one thing or you can take this medication for this one thing, but when you like comprehensively address minerals, it really affects every system of your body.
• 27:39
  Dr. Heather Finley: So anything we missed that you wanna share before we wrap up?
• 27:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: Other than I guess after I had the baby, I did have my OB run another blood panel just to see, because things were in that, like really low range, but technically with the neural limits.
• 27:55
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I've seen complete resolution of all of the things that were like kind of being monitored or on the edge of within normal limits.
• 28:02
  Dr. Heather Finley: And I so I felt symptom resolution, but I'm also seeing.
• 28:07
  Dr. Heather Finley: Actual stats saying those things are resolving.
• 28:10
  Dr. Heather Finley: So if you are on the fence about it at all, I would absolutely even just get on a call with'em and see how they can help you.
• 28:17
  Dr. Heather Finley: Um, because it's really changed my life and I tell anyone and everyone that is willing to listen about it, um, to hope that it can help change theirs too.
• 28:25
  Dr. Heather Finley: I love it, and thank you so much for being our biggest advocate.
• 28:29
  Dr. Heather Finley: That's why I was like, I have to have Caitlin on the podcast because she's just a girl that found us through word of mouth and now is shouting it from the rooftops.
• 28:39
  Dr. Heather Finley: So I love it so much.
• 28:40
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yes.
• 28:41
  Dr. Heather Finley: So thank Well, thank you so much for having me.
• 28:43
  Dr. Heather Finley: Thank you so much for helping me with all of these things.
• 28:45
  Dr. Heather Finley: You guys are the best.
• 28:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Dr. Heather Finley: Well, thanks for joining.
• 28:49
  Dr. Heather Finley: Yeah.