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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to look at how to tag
- 0:04people properly to promote our social media posts.
- 0:08And of course, the reason why we're doing this is because by
- 0:10promoting social media posts the right way and getting more
- 0:15engagement, we put ourselves in a position where we might have
- 0:19more conversations that might lead to more opportunities for
- 0:22business relationships, sales and profit.
- 0:26So again today, how to tag people properly on social media
- 0:31so that you can get them to promote your social media posts.
- 0:35Now, if you're interested in these sorts of topics, you know
- 0:39how to get clients from social media, how to grow your sales,
- 0:42how to look for more customers, how to look for other ways of
- 0:46getting revenue to expand your business, then this is the
- 0:50podcast for you. So be sure to subscribe on
- 0:53Spotify, on YouTube, on Apple or any player of your choice.
- 0:59And if you would love to connect with me, I am your host,
- 1:03Tavishima Ayede. So you can call, send me a text
- 1:06message or send me a WhatsApp message on 08064662140.
- 1:14You can also find me on LinkedIn if you'd like to get the correct
- 1:18spelling of my name, just check the profile of whatever podcast
- 1:22player that you're listening to because I've noticed that
- 1:25recently lots of people have been finding me on LinkedIn,
- 1:28which I find surprising because I've been giving out my phone
- 1:31number a whole lot more. But anyway, you guys are
- 1:34reaching out to me on LinkedIn and you know, I can't complain.
- 1:37Unfortunately, that's the only social media I have.
- 1:39So don't bother looking for me on Instagram, on Facebook, on
- 1:42TikTok or on anything else. So today, how to tag people the
- 1:49right way so that it can promote your social media posts.
- 1:55Now, why are we looking at this today?
- 1:57Well, obviously because as the growth of the podcast has been,
- 2:04the podcast has been growing sharp and my profile, they
- 2:06increase small, small, small. You know, I haven't arrived in
- 2:10quote yet, but I'm getting to that stage where people are
- 2:13beginning to tag me on a weekly basis on posts that they put up
- 2:16on social media. And you know, I understand the
- 2:19game and this is the game. You tag somebody else when the
- 2:24person has a bigger audience because you hope that without
- 2:28bigger audience, if the person engages with the comment you
- 2:32have created, if the person likes, if the person re shares,
- 2:36if the person carries any form of engagement, then this is
- 2:40going to get some amplified reach for your own posts.
- 2:45And yes, it is a good strategy. So I am under no illusion that
- 2:50for those of you who tagged me, I know exactly what's going on.
- 2:53I know the game. You're tagging me because I have
- 2:57a bigger audience. OK, well, you know, my audience
- 2:59is, let's say it's average right now because on LinkedIn I have,
- 3:03I think I have 3000 something followers.
- 3:06So that's the scope. You have 20-30, maybe 300
- 3:11followers. You tag a bunch of people who
- 3:13have 3000 followers. If those people like, if they re
- 3:17share, if they engage, if they comment, then your post is going
- 3:21to get amplified reach. You're going to see new
- 3:24audiences. And this is a good strategy.
- 3:27I repeat, it is a very good strategy and I endorse it as
- 3:32many of you who can you should be using this strategy.
- 3:36But remember, we're here to talk about how to do it the right way
- 3:40because it only works when it is done tastefully.
- 3:44Let me repeat tagging somebody else who has a bigger audience
- 3:50because you're trying to get amplified.
- 3:52Reach for when they like, when they reshare, when they comment,
- 3:55when they heart, when they support, when they upvote, when
- 3:59they do whatever. It's a good strategy, but it
- 4:02only works when it is done tastefully.
- 4:06And unfortunately, lots of you are doing it in poor taste.
- 4:10In fact, that's the reason why I'm making today's episode.
- 4:12You can say today's episode is a rant because so many people are
- 4:15doing it in poor taste. Now this is the problem.
- 4:20Some of you are running around tagging an influencer in quote.
- 4:24By the way, I am not calling myself an influencer because I'm
- 4:29not technically speaking. An influencer is probably
- 4:34so-called because influencers get people to take action.
- 4:39So excuse me, let me repeat again.
- 4:44So excuse me recovering from a cold because it's I'm a town
- 4:49over here. And then my kids also had a cold
- 4:54as well. And then the baby had a sore
- 4:55throat. And you know how it is now when
- 4:58one child brings it into the house, you know, everybody now
- 5:00has that issue. OK, so I was, I, so I was saying
- 5:09basically that when you tag an influencer, by the way, I'm not
- 5:11an influencer and influencer marketing is a good thing.
- 5:14But The thing is some of you get confused by the sizes of
- 5:18people's audience. So influencer marketing doesn't
- 5:21mean you reach out to somebody who has 3000 followers, 9000
- 5:24followers, 15,000 followers, 20,000 followers is not about
- 5:28the follower count because you have major influencers and you
- 5:33also have macro and, yeah, macro.
- 5:36And so you have macro and micro influencers.
- 5:39Yeah, so macro influencers, major influencers, big
- 5:44influencers, probably people like the Kardashians, and then
- 5:46micro influencers, maybe someone closer to my own end, maybe 3000
- 5:50followers, 1000 followers, that kind of thing.
- 5:53But the key distinction when you're looking at influencers is
- 5:57not the size of the audience, all right?
- 6:02An influencer is an influencer because they cause people to
- 6:06take action. Influencers are people who move
- 6:09markets. Influencers are are people who
- 6:12when they speak, people take action.
- 6:17So that's the reason why you can say Donald Trump is an
- 6:19influencer or that's the reason why you can't say Kim Kardashian
- 6:22is an influencer because they talk and people take action.
- 6:27It's in the title influence, the exact some sort of influence.
- 6:32So for those of you who are thinking of an influencer
- 6:35strategy, and maybe that's the reason why you're targeting me
- 6:37or reaching out to me, you're too soon.
- 6:42I'm not there yet. I'm not at a level yet where I
- 6:44speak and then people move. So I'm not at that level yet yet
- 6:48where I move product or I move masses or I move motions or I
- 6:53move people's opinions. So if you want to try and
- 7:00influence our marketing strategy, that is key.
- 7:04You pay attention not to the size of the audience, but to
- 7:07whether these people can move. Markets, can move opinions, can
- 7:11shape opinions can move, can shape the trajectory of
- 7:16campaigns, of agendas, of things like that.
- 7:18That is what you pay attention to.
- 7:21So if you find someone who only has 500 followers, but every
- 7:25single that person talks when they tweet, when they, you know,
- 7:28when they put out something, markets move, then that person
- 7:32is an influencer. But of course, in my career,
- 7:33influencer because the guys audience or the babes audience,
- 7:36it is small. So it's not the size of the
- 7:38audience, but whether they exercise any influence.
- 7:44So that's the reason why people pay Kim Kardashian the big box
- 7:47and the other people in the Kardashian family because if you
- 7:50get them to OK, like Taylor Swift for instance, there's I
- 7:55think this thing with her boyfriend where she had that
- 7:58game where her boyfriend proposed to her.
- 8:00They said that that dress that she wore that within minutes The
- 8:03thing is sold out now. That's what we call influenza.
- 8:07She didn't say by the dress, so nothing.
- 8:10She just wore the dress, that's all.
- 8:12Just by wearing that dress, that's all the things sold out
- 8:15now. That's all I mean when we say
- 8:16influenza. So as people you should be
- 8:19looking for. So those of you where they
- 8:21tagged me, you think I'm an influencer.
- 8:22Like you're wasting your time because I never reach, I'm not
- 8:25there yet. I don't talk and then people
- 8:28move. So when our time comes, you can
- 8:32consider me for your influencer strategy.
- 8:34But until then, So what was I? The problem is too many people
- 8:40are tagging influencers or tagging people with big
- 8:43audiences, but they're not doing it in a tasteful manner.
- 8:46And because they're not doing it in a tasteful manner, they are
- 8:49not getting any engagement. Not getting any engagement.
- 8:54Well, First off, it's a waste of your time and a waste of your
- 8:56effort. But apart from that, it hurts
- 8:59your posts reach. It actually is a bad thing When
- 9:03you are tagging people and the people don't engage and they
- 9:06don't do anything. It actually is hurting your
- 9:08reach on social media platforms. At least I've been able to
- 9:12confirm this dynamic when it comes to LinkedIn and I suspect
- 9:18is going to apply to other social media channels as well.
- 9:22I think I was able to confirm that from the is it the LinkedIn
- 9:26marketing show? I can't remember the name of the
- 9:28podcast. It's a LinkedIn something
- 9:29anyway, and that's where I first heard about that idea.
- 9:35Now, apart from that, when you're tagging people who are
- 9:37influencers, you're tagging people with bigger audiences and
- 9:41they are not taking action, they're not engaging.
- 9:43You come across as desperate, you come across as reaching, you
- 9:48come across as all I put it, you come across as obviously
- 9:55inferior status. And we have to try and do this
- 9:58in a nice way. Like we're trying to reach up so
- 10:00that our air bones, our senior brothers, our sugar bars, our,
- 10:04you know, Big Brothers and sisters in the trade so they can
- 10:07give us small uplift. Both are coming at this and
- 10:11then, you know, begin they look like beggar, you know, somehow.
- 10:16So we guys do this in a very tasteful manner.
- 10:19Now, when I say it's not done tasty, what do I mean?
- 10:22First of all, people just do this thing random.
- 10:25Like today I just received one random tag over my LinkedIn
- 10:30about to schedule my content. Next thing I saw you know so so
- 10:35so and so responded, liked in the comment that they tagged
- 10:38you. I opened the thing and I read
- 10:39the thing and throughout the whole post there was not one
- 10:42single mention of me, how I inspired the guy or how the guy
- 10:48was interacting with my ideas or everything had nothing to do
- 10:51with me. At the end, the guy just copied,
- 10:54just tagged a number of people just just tagged them like that
- 10:59random, no reason why. Now I engaged with the guy
- 11:06because you know, I wrote a comment and I said, oh, thank
- 11:08you very much for tagging me. I think this post is really
- 11:11insightful. But then I asked the guy because
- 11:14I'm also, how do I put it? I'm not going to be an idiot
- 11:18about it, but I'm also trying to pass across a message.
- 11:20So I asked the guy up on the post like, how come you tagged
- 11:23me in this? You know, you're not interacting
- 11:25with any of my ideas. I didn't inspire anything here,
- 11:28and you clearly didn't reference any interaction that you and I
- 11:32have had in the past. So how come you tagged me in
- 11:34this post? Now, it turns out that the
- 11:37reason why the guy made the post was because he was inspired by
- 11:39something that I said on the podcast.
- 11:41But, you know, if he had said that in the body of the post and
- 11:44that was the point at which he tagged me, then me, I would
- 11:49know. And other people who are reading
- 11:50the post would see that, oh, there's an organic reason why he
- 11:54tagged this guy. But you put up a post and you
- 11:58just tag people random. You just throw in like 8-9
- 12:02people just tag, tag, tag. You just at them comes across as
- 12:06random. It doesn't seem tastefully done.
- 12:10And for some people, you know, big boys and big girls in the
- 12:14space, there's some people who get offended by that.
- 12:17Actually, I guess seriously insulted.
- 12:18In fact, I can remember when, back in the day when Facebook
- 12:21was new, I remember this guy NATO.
- 12:24See a lot of you won't know NATO C because he's been out of the
- 12:26game for a very long time. But NATO C was this rapper back
- 12:32in the day. I think he was with Storm, Storm
- 12:35record label. Storm record label used to be
- 12:38Obi Obi Ashika. Because I think right now Ashika
- 12:41is like he's like commissioner for culture or something like
- 12:44that in is he a Noogu state or something?
- 12:47Like he's a big boy now, show government kind of something.
- 12:50And then he also flows in Nigerians in Diaspora.
- 12:53Yeah. Nido, yeah, Nigerian in Diaspora
- 12:55organization, you know all of that.
- 12:57So, you know, big boy so. But back in the day, Obia Shika
- 12:59had this music label called Storm Records.
- 13:02I think tribesmen want Storm Records.
- 13:05Who again, Anyway, so this guy need to see what's there.
- 13:11So need to see how this song can you big deal, can you big deal.
- 13:14Shabby, shabby, We're on fire. We're on fire.
- 13:19Shabby, shabby, we're on fire. Can you big deal?
- 13:22Can you big deal. So any number as in some some
- 13:27correct songs like that. I know some of you who say like
- 13:30man, that thing is lame. But look, put it in context.
- 13:32You know, we were just coming out of military era or passenger
- 13:37became president. Niger had on the open up small,
- 13:39small, small. So, you know, for those of us
- 13:42who are youth, young youth by then, like we were experiencing
- 13:45a new vibrant free phase, you know, the world, the world was
- 13:50opening up. Like we're seeing new teens.
- 13:52We don't, we don't the CGSM, we don't the press computer, you
- 13:54know, things like that. So so you might hear the song
- 13:57now say, man, that's lame. But back then that song was the
- 14:00issue was the correct song. Good vibes.
- 14:04So Facebook was new now and people used to tag NATO, see
- 14:08anyhow, so one day NATO see changed his name.
- 14:13It's of it to be NATO see he changed his name to NATO.
- 14:16Stop tagging me unnecessarily. See that was his name on
- 14:21Facebook so that the moment you want to tag him, I just do act
- 14:25and then type in NAETO you start you see there.
- 14:29Stop tagging me unnecessarily. Anyway, I don't know his
- 14:32Facebook handle now. But besides, I think he's gone
- 14:35into business now. He's no longer a musician.
- 14:37So I don't even know his social media handle.
- 14:38But the point I'm just trying to make is that some guys, the vex
- 14:41when you do that. So there's some people that you
- 14:43tag them, they look and they see that this this thing is random.
- 14:47And what they'll do is they'll now untag themselves.
- 14:50And that's where the problem will start.
- 14:52When they untag themselves, the LinkedIn algorithm, the
- 14:58Instagram algorithm, the whatever algorithm is beginning
- 15:00to take note. They will see that this person
- 15:03is creating this post in just the tag people anyhow, no rhyme,
- 15:08no reason. And because of that, it will
- 15:10begin to hamper your reach because remember, these social
- 15:15media platforms, these algorithms are trying to put out
- 15:17content, push content, give it more reach that seems valuable
- 15:21to people so that people stay on the platform.
- 15:24So if it looks like your content is, you know, Kankama do kind of
- 15:27content, like rubbish kind of content, you know, they'll begin
- 15:30to tap you down, reduce your reach.
- 15:34So all these random tagging, no, they do arm because think about
- 15:38it. You write a post random tagging,
- 15:41you just tag 10 people because you know them be influencer,
- 15:46they get big following. So you tag 10 people and let's
- 15:51say within 24 hours nine of them moved themselves.
- 15:55What signal do you think that is sending to the LinkedIn
- 15:58algorithm or to the Instagram algorithm?
- 16:03Because backwards algorithm, not only could you remove yourself,
- 16:06you could even tell Instagram that this guy blocker may not
- 16:09tag me again. That is sending a very strong
- 16:13signal to the algorithm. See, our business is hard.
- 16:18We should not be doing things that make our job any harder.
- 16:21All these random tagging that you guys are doing, you know
- 16:24they pay, it doesn't. So #1 random tagging.
- 16:31That's why you don't do it tastefully #2 plenty tagging.
- 16:35That's why you're not doing it tastefully.
- 16:36You write 1 post, you tag 10 people.
- 16:38How? How did 10 people influence or
- 16:41inspire what it is they put in our post?
- 16:44If you want to tag somebody but you had a meaningful
- 16:47interaction. So let's say for instance, now
- 16:50you want to tag who I go use. Now let's say you want to tag
- 16:53Don Jazzy. Maybe.
- 16:58How I put it, you saw Don't Jazzy at the party, you guys had
- 17:00a brief conversation and from that convo you are inspired, you
- 17:04know, go and put the post up there, you know.
- 17:07Mention it. At him there, you know.
- 17:11People say that this. Thing is organic, but then
- 17:14because it's from a conversation that you had with him and him
- 17:17alone, you tag only him full stop.
- 17:22It doesn't look not tastefully done.
- 17:26And besides it. Increases the chances that even
- 17:29if he sees it. Maybe he might.
- 17:31Remember, maybe he might engage, but definitely you've done
- 17:35jazzy. You tag him in the post, he goes
- 17:38to check the post and he sees that you tagged 15 other people.
- 17:42Boner boy. You tag him.
- 17:44Who again? Davido.
- 17:45You tag him, you tag everybody. You think he's going to respond
- 17:49to that kind of thing? Now, he's not the mean guy, so
- 17:54he's not going to untrack himself, I think.
- 17:57But anyway, Sir, let's be doing this thing tastefully, so don't
- 18:01keep it random. And then I'll be tagging people.
- 18:03Plenty, plenty, plenty, plenty. Then remember, this is the game
- 18:08plan when we tag people with bigger audiences, we're hoping
- 18:12to get amplified reach. We're hoping that the person
- 18:14will like that the person will re share that the person will
- 18:17engage in some way. So can you put some sort of call
- 18:21to action there for the person? So in that kind of thing, if you
- 18:27salute Don Jazzy, you shout him out and because he's a nice guy,
- 18:32you say, Baba, I beg help your boy reshare this thing.
- 18:36You know, some kind of call to action now because don't dress
- 18:40is a nice guy. You know, he might laugh and
- 18:41then reshare or he might laugh and then like that is what
- 18:45you're looking for, that he will reshare or that he will like or
- 18:49that he will comment. That is what will amplify this
- 18:53post and give it bigger reach because when he likes, when he
- 18:57shares, when he comments, then the millions of people who
- 19:01followed on Chanzy will also get to see your own post that he
- 19:05interacted with. So remember, that's the game
- 19:08plan. It's not just to tag somebody
- 19:11for tagging sick. We're trying to tag this person
- 19:13so that they would like, they will reshare, they will engage,
- 19:16they will comment, they will do something.
- 19:20So how about putting at least one question there?
- 19:25So like for those of you who are who have been tagging me, you
- 19:30know, it would be nice put a question there.
- 19:34How about you tag me and then you say, what are your
- 19:37perspectives about this? Or do you happen to agree with
- 19:41this? Or how does this accord with
- 19:44your business philosophy? Or how does this blend with this
- 19:48particular philosophy you discussed on the podcast?
- 19:50You know something, it's an invitation to do something
- 19:54because if you have 5 followers of 500 followers and then you
- 19:58tag me because I have 3000 and you're hoping for amplified
- 20:02reach, the goal is to actually have me like the post, reshare
- 20:06the post, or comment on the post so that my other 3000 followers
- 20:11will get to see the post that I engage with.
- 20:16Ask A. Question.
- 20:20Ask a question in the post. Invite the person to do
- 20:24something. Then.
- 20:29Another way that people are tagging people in posts and it's
- 20:32not tastefully done. OK, I already hinted at it.
- 20:35That's why I say the person that you're tagging didn't contribute
- 20:39to the post in any way or didn't inspire the post in any way.
- 20:45So people can just see that men are just some random, random
- 20:48tagging. And you can see that this is
- 20:51where it starts getting tacky and seeming desperate.
- 20:54So even your audiences who you are trying to impress, they'll
- 20:59begin to see that man, this guy just they reach like this babe,
- 21:02they reach anyhow like she's grasping at straws.
- 21:05He's just grasping any which way shy.
- 21:08He wants to attract anybody somebody.
- 21:13The thing now starts to look tacky.
- 21:18So let's let's try and be classy about this.
- 21:21Let's try and be graceful about this.
- 21:28So. What was I?
- 21:33Anyway, back to what I said in the beginning, when you don't do
- 21:37this thing tastefully, there will be no engagement and it
- 21:41will not profit you. By the way, if you're thinking
- 21:44of tagging someone. Why not try?
- 21:48Tagging people who already have a history of liking, already
- 21:53have a history of sharing, already have a history of
- 21:56commenting. Because you attack people and
- 21:59then they see it, they don't like it, they don't share it,
- 22:02they don't retweet it, they don't leave a comment, they
- 22:05don't do anything. Then remember it's going to hurt
- 22:11the reach of the content that you put out.
- 22:17So. It's a problem some of you don't
- 22:20know, but actually it's a problem for you to tag several
- 22:23influencers and then all of them ignore you.
- 22:27You tag 10 people or 10 people ignore you.
- 22:30OK, the. First time, no problem.
- 22:32But you do that 10 times in a row.
- 22:35The algorithm is watching. The algorithm never sleeps.
- 22:38They will see that OK, over the last 10 posts you have tagged 10
- 22:42people on average. So, so far, that's over 100
- 22:48people. And so far.
- 22:50Over 100 people that you've tagged have ignored you.
- 22:53It's not a good sign. The algorithm is going to read
- 22:57it that this is not valuable content.
- 22:59And because of that, excuse me, it's going to Curb Your reach,
- 23:03is going to hinder your reach. So.
- 23:10The solution, which I've already started exploring some of them
- 23:19is first of all type people who you think might reply.
- 23:23Like I said, don't. Jazzy seems to be a nice guy,
- 23:26but I won't call some names. You know that there's some other
- 23:29musicians, music execs, if you're in the music field, that
- 23:33some of them that you know that if you tag them they will sort
- 23:37your life and then they'll block you.
- 23:39Some people who. Say any form of engagement is
- 23:41good engagement well. In a technical.
- 23:44Sense, I guess it is, but I don't think any bit.
- 23:48Basically what I'm just trying to say is that's some people
- 23:50that seem to be nice guys. Tag those kind of people, tag
- 23:56them like me. I know the level of the game and
- 24:00you know, I appreciate helping folks out.
- 24:03So me, I don't mind as long as the thing makes sense.
- 24:05So you want to tag me? Your Instagram post?
- 24:07Sorry, not Instagram. Your LinkedIn post, Yeah, go
- 24:10ahead, tag, because I respond to everyone and I try to make sure
- 24:13that everybody who comes across my way gets value.
- 24:19But before you start arguing people, I would recommend that
- 24:21you build relationships with people because some people ask
- 24:25me, you've been sharing this guy's post a lot or you've been
- 24:27sharing this girl's post a lot. You know, how come I say, oh
- 24:30now, my guy? Or oh, she's.
- 24:33Cool. This is where we interacted
- 24:35from, blah blah blah blah blah. Because I have built
- 24:38relationships with those people, or rather those people have
- 24:40built relationships with me. And so because of that, whenever
- 24:44I see something, their post, their event, the online session,
- 24:51their course, their whatever, you know, I'll reshare, I'll
- 24:55shout them out because you know, we don't they relate.
- 24:59There's a relationship on ground.
- 25:01So actually take time to build relationships with influencers
- 25:05or people with big audiences. By the way, remember I said I am
- 25:09not an influencer because influencers are people who
- 25:12inspire action in others. So far, I do not inspire action
- 25:17yet. I have not started moving
- 25:18markets yet. I don't sell out anything yet.
- 25:23So don't include me as part of your influencer strategy.
- 25:28But yeah, you tagged me the thing makes sense.
- 25:30I'll respond. I will comment.
- 25:31I will reshare. Then.
- 25:34Flattery goes a long way. I'm not saying you.
- 25:38Guys should flatter me. Well, flattery goes a long way.
- 25:40We're human beings. If somebody's minding their
- 25:42business, they're having a rough day.
- 25:45They see that you tag. Them in the post, they open it
- 25:47and they say, ah, so, so so so is the best thing since sliced
- 25:49bread. I saw the person on stage here
- 25:53or I listened to the person's comment here or I saw the person
- 25:56on the podcast there or I ran into the person live at so so
- 25:59and so event. The person said this, the person
- 26:02said this. These are the thing that changed
- 26:03my life. You know, glowing comments like
- 26:05that. Who doesn't like to see that
- 26:07kind of thing? Now Niger, we do know of course
- 26:10somebody will see that in her smile and then re share.
- 26:13So the other people in the audience will see that.
- 26:16Me too, you know I'd be benefactor that you know, like I
- 26:21am enriching people's lives. Flattery goes a long way.
- 26:24You don't have to use their sweet mouth.
- 26:29Just talking honestly about simple things that the person
- 26:32has inspired. This thing goes a long way.
- 26:36But then look realistically as well because there's some people
- 26:39honestly speaking, who are busy. Like this lady.
- 26:41What's her name? I can't remember but the podcast
- 26:45is called Afropolitan. There's a husband and wife
- 26:48thing. I can't remember this Igbo girl.
- 26:51She married one. You don't, my guy.
- 26:54Then. Oh, by the way, I was, I was
- 26:56happy to see that to know that their husband and wife, because
- 26:58for a while I've been thinking about how I involve my wife on
- 27:01this podcast because since she's into securities, you know,
- 27:06there's lots of stuff about investing, you know, finance
- 27:09matters, you know, stuff like that.
- 27:11That would be nice for her to come and lend her own
- 27:15perspective on, you know, because it helps, you know, I
- 27:17only talk about sales because that's all I know.
- 27:20But then there's some other things that are finance related
- 27:22that will be good for other people to hear as well.
- 27:26But then I was thinking about it, but she's my wife now will
- 27:29be somehow husband and wife on the same podcast, like a good
- 27:33day somehow. So when I saw the Afropolitan
- 27:35podcast and I saw that two of them are husband and wife, I
- 27:37said, OK, no problem. Now myself, my wife can show
- 27:42from time to time. So any wife, he's not around at
- 27:46the moment. So when she gets back, I'll
- 27:47mention it to her, say, babe, what's up?
- 27:48What are you thinking? I want us to do a few episodes
- 27:52together. What do you think?
- 27:55So where was I? So I was just trying to say that
- 27:58some people are busy now. The Africa Afropolitan podcast
- 28:01is, is huge, is big. I think the last episode that I
- 28:06saw, the last two episodes, I saw one of them, they they
- 28:09interviewed Woozy Tambayo, Abid Tambayo, what's his name?
- 28:13And then they also interviewed the Yoruba actor David Oyelowa,
- 28:18ABI David Oyelowa, Nigerian actor, well, of course, acted in
- 28:22Hollywood movies and acted in British movies.
- 28:25So, you know, those are the caliber of people that they
- 28:27interview on that podcast. And you know that podcast and
- 28:29the podcast, you get rich, you get serious rich.
- 28:32So every single time they release a new episode and the
- 28:36babies promoting it or the husband is promoting it, you
- 28:38know, one post, they'll get like 1000 re shares, you know, like
- 28:442003 thousand comments, you know, that kind of thing.
- 28:47Now somebody like that, she's busy.
- 28:51And her husband. He's busy because man, it's not
- 28:53easy. If 1000 people respond to go
- 28:55through and say you respond to 1000 comments, like man, that'll
- 29:01be hard. So just be real.
- 29:03If you're targeting that kind of person, the chances that she
- 29:06will see and like and engage and reshare, the chances are low.
- 29:10Because. You know, that's a whole lot of
- 29:13engagement. So.
- 29:20Yeah, just know, in fact, when it comes to this strategy, I
- 29:26know that people want to aim big.
- 29:28But for me, I'll say aim small. Let me explain.
- 29:34OK, Let's like now somebody like me, I have 3000 followers to try
- 29:38this strategy. Now I would attack people.
- 29:40We get like. Maybe. 300,000 followers because
- 29:45I didn't aim big. Now somebody already, somebody
- 29:48who has 300,000 followers, imagine the kind of engagement
- 29:52they will get on their own post. So before they see my own tag
- 29:55and then respond, you know, chances are low.
- 29:58So The thing is aim small. So somebody like me, now we get
- 30:003000 followers and I want to try this tagging strategy and maybe
- 30:04I will tag people. We get like, you know, maybe
- 30:094000 followers, 5000 followers, you understand, because that
- 30:12kind of person, you know, is bigger than me, but the gap not
- 30:16too, you understand, is not too big.
- 30:21And then it's also the kind of thing that the person can see
- 30:24and notice. And then?
- 30:27Engage because the gap not too big.
- 30:32So yeah, let me put it that way, aim smaller.
- 30:36Let me put it that way, aim smaller.
- 30:39So those of you who tried tagging Gary Vaynerchuk, you try
- 30:42tagging who else? Kim Kardashian.
- 30:48You try tagging, you know, whoever.
- 30:51I. Just bring you down.
- 30:53I'm sure there's some other influences, some other content
- 30:55creators, there's some other people with bigger audiences who
- 30:57are much more closer to your level and much more likely to
- 31:01see and engage with the stuff that you're doing.
- 31:06When you tag them in. Content.
- 31:10So where else? What else?
- 31:14I also said when you're tagging people, please tag with a
- 31:16question. If you tag with a.
- 31:19Question. The chances are that you prompt
- 31:21a response from a couple of people.
- 31:25Then. Another mistake that people
- 31:26make. Please be re sharing influencer
- 31:30content from time to time. That's one way that you get
- 31:32noticed. So let's say you have 1000
- 31:35followers and there's somebody who has 2003 thousand followers.
- 31:40Every single time the person post something, you reshare.
- 31:45By the time you don't do I'm like 20-30 times the person, you
- 31:49know, like you're now the person's radar.
- 31:51Don't see that. They'll cite you like OK, that
- 31:53guy, that girl, every single time I do something, you know,
- 31:57they they support the heart, the retreat, they reshare, they re
- 32:02whatever. So that when the time comes and
- 32:04you do your own, you now tag the person.
- 32:06You know, some chances that person also will.
- 32:10Well, I think they say, you know, karma and one good turn
- 32:12deserves another. So you increase your chances of
- 32:18getting positive responses over time anyway.
- 32:22So these are some of the ways that we can cure that problem.
- 32:26But the summary of what I'm trying to say basically is that
- 32:30before you tag someone, try to have some sort of a relationship
- 32:33before you tag the person, you now increase the chances that
- 32:38the person is going to like the person is going to re share, the
- 32:42person is going to support the person is going to retweet the
- 32:45person is going to comment, the person is going to whatever.
- 32:49Just try and build a relationship before you tag the
- 32:52person. And seriously consider aiming
- 32:56small when it comes to these things.
- 32:58So if you have 5000 followers, you know, take it easy.
- 33:03Don't want to be tagging people who have 500,000 followers, you
- 33:08know the gap is much. You know you're like an.
- 33:11Ant you're like a cockroach, you know, Now we're going to see
- 33:13you. OK, sorry, that's harsh, but you
- 33:15get the point. So you have 5000 followers?
- 33:19Yeah, maybe be tagging those people who have 7008 thousand
- 33:229000. We're trying to put the.
- 33:27Alts in our favor. Well, please.
- 33:30Remember this when they sign off with this because lots of people
- 33:33get it twisted. The purpose of doing all these
- 33:37kinds of tactics on social media is we are trying to gain access
- 33:41to new audiences. Because sometimes I look at this
- 33:45thing, I'm like these people, just the person just doing it
- 33:47for numbers sake. Because the post that they write
- 33:51and the tagging that they do, like no correlation.
- 33:53So it's just for numbers sake. That's the reason why, for
- 33:57instance, you know, you will not see me tag Jon Jazzy because Don
- 34:01Jazzy, you know, music industry, that sort of thing, you know me
- 34:04sales, like what's the correlation?
- 34:06There's no point in me playing this kind of moves and tagging
- 34:09John Jazzy if me doing that will not expose me in a meaningful
- 34:14way to his audiences. Because no.
- 34:17Connect. No correlation.
- 34:20So the goal is new audiences, meaningful audiences.
- 34:25The hope is that some people will see them mad.
- 34:27They would like you and they will follow you.
- 34:29They will enter into your own domain.
- 34:32So his new audiences is just not about numbers.
- 34:36It's not just the. Numbers.
- 34:41Then. Also remember that we're hoping
- 34:44for new audiences, we're hoping for more engagement because
- 34:47ultimately we're hoping that this will lead to more business,
- 34:50more people sliding into our DM to say what's up.
- 34:53How far are you available? How much do you deliver to
- 34:57Ibado? Do you deliver to Sokoto?
- 34:58Do you do it in green? Do you do it in black?
- 35:01Do you do it in purple? Do you have 50 kilowatts?
- 35:04Do you have 10 megawatts? We want people to start
- 35:07engaging, having conversations with us because we hope we will
- 35:11lead to more business. So the reason why I'm saying
- 35:14this is please just remember it is not about the emotional
- 35:17satisfaction of having large social media followings.
- 35:24There's no point in amassing numbers and amassing following
- 35:27for the sake of following. It is something I learned as a
- 35:32wedding photographer. There are some people that I
- 35:34used to look up to. One guy in particular, this guy
- 35:38had mad following. I mean at my level at the time
- 35:41was mad following. I had like. 2000 followers or
- 35:45something? And of course I.
- 35:47Hooked up with a guy and you know we started having
- 35:50one-on-one conversation then the guy begin to ask me for business
- 35:53advice because things are not smooth and I'm wondering how
- 35:57come now on a social media level the guy is looking like a bigger
- 36:03boss 2000 something followers blah blah blah blah blah.
- 36:07You know, when they ask me on social media, small boy and
- 36:10asking me for advice. So me we're no gear following my
- 36:14business is doing better than you that you have following like
- 36:17who we have who what does it profit you to have following of
- 36:222000 people on social media and then probably, you know, get
- 36:26money, you know, get like the money is not moving.
- 36:29What does that 2000 following profit you then meanwhile,
- 36:32somebody that has 500 followers. That was me back in the day, at
- 36:37least at a chop small, small fuel put in my car.
- 36:42You know, schoolies, NEPA, at least I was.
- 36:46I was keeping up. It's not about the.
- 36:49Numbers, believe me, I've seen it.
- 36:53It doesn't profit you to have 2000 followers meanwhile your
- 36:57bank is empty anytime, any day. I'd rather take somebody who has
- 37:01no social media following at all or small social media following,
- 37:05but meanwhile business traction is on ground now to have large
- 37:09social media following and their bank account. 0 So always
- 37:14remember vanity. All these vanity metrics are
- 37:18big, don't follow them. I'll be playing that game.
- 37:20That's not the reason why we're hanging out on social media.
- 37:23We hang out on social media because we're thinking of money
- 37:27at the end of the day, money. So it's not the following for
- 37:31following sake. So that's it and that's all for
- 37:34today. Thanks for your time and
- 37:36attention. Remember, if you would like to
- 37:38connect with me, you can call send me a text message or a
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- 37:57So thanks for listening. I'll catch you some other time.