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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today.
- 0:04We're going to continue the discussion that we've been
- 0:07having for the last two or three days and that's on how sales
- 0:10skills can help in your personal growth and development.
- 0:14Now as a bit of a recap, we started off two or three days
- 0:19ago by identifying the sales skills in particular that
- 0:24traditionally people who are involved in sales and business
- 0:26development use to to do their job, you know, to try and get
- 0:30people to buy their, their products or services.
- 0:34And then we've been breaking down how these skills relate to
- 0:38those of you who do not carry a quota or who are not sales
- 0:41people or who do not run the business.
- 0:43So some of the skills that we've looked at so far have been
- 0:48building trust and rapport with potential customers.
- 0:50So there's been an episode about how building trust and rapport
- 0:54with customers and clients, how that can help you in politics or
- 0:57church ministry or if you're an employee, interpersonal
- 1:02relationships, you know, whatever.
- 1:04Then I think the episode that we did yesterday that was around
- 1:07understanding client needs. So what are the techniques that
- 1:10salespeople use to understand client needs?
- 1:13And then how can that help you to be much more effective in the
- 1:16workplace or in interpersonal relationships?
- 1:19Then the other skills that we're going to run through today, at
- 1:24least anyway, is going to be on presentation skills, effective
- 1:28presentation skills, let me put it that way.
- 1:30So that is something that salespeople traditionally have
- 1:33had to be good at because at some point you meet a stranger,
- 1:36you build a relationship. Eventually you have to get to
- 1:38the point where you have to make the presentation to say, this is
- 1:41how I can help you, these are the options.
- 1:43This is how much it will cost and this is how we should go
- 1:47ahead. So that's the presentation stage
- 1:50why you're trying to make the person see how your product or
- 1:52services valuable. So that is what we're going to
- 1:56be looking at today. And after today, the other steps
- 2:00we're going to look at will be getting people to commit to take
- 2:02the next action steps, making sure that everyone is happy,
- 2:07that is the customer satisfaction stage and then
- 2:09getting repeat business and referrals.
- 2:11So each of these skills are essential in sales and they all
- 2:16have a subset of smaller skills that are subsumed within them
- 2:21that you need to get the job done.
- 2:23And my thesis in today's podcast and the two episodes prior and
- 2:29in the two or three episodes that are going to come after
- 2:31this, the thesis is that even if you're not a salesperson, even
- 2:35if you don't have a quota, even if you don't run a business,
- 2:38then these skills are, these skills are extremely important
- 2:41and they're going to help you in your role as an employee or in
- 2:47your committee work in church or even with your relationships
- 2:52with your family, for instance. So today we're going to look at
- 2:56effective presentation skills. You know, how do you come up
- 2:59with an effective presentation? So if you are a salesperson,
- 3:03then you will be preoccupied with effective presentation
- 3:07skills because it is necessary, because it is the persuasive
- 3:10element. And when we say persuasive
- 3:11element, we mean we're trying to get people from point A to point
- 3:15B to Point C and at some point it ends up in both of you
- 3:19establishing a business relationship where you deliver
- 3:22the value that your product or services promises and where they
- 3:25deliver you revenue. So traditionally, sales people
- 3:30very concerned when it comes to this whole thing of effective
- 3:35presentations. And like I've said, the whole
- 3:38thing of effective presentations or rather the whole thing of
- 3:42trying to be persuasive, carries over well into the corporate,
- 3:47corporate world culture. So if you're a Nigerian, you
- 3:49work in Zenith Bank or you work within NBC, you know, the makers
- 3:54of Coca-Cola, let's see what else Or you're in pastoral
- 3:57ministry. You're, you're a priest.
- 4:01You, you know, you're a priest. You're an evangelist.
- 4:03You're a prophet or whatever, or you're a politician.
- 4:06Other kinds of relationships, interpersonal and otherwise.
- 4:11Then, you know, this whole persuasive element, you know,
- 4:13carries through because the employee and the organization,
- 4:17the pastor of the politician, the parent we're all trying to
- 4:20be, we're all trying to get people to do some things for
- 4:23their benefit and also for our benefit as well.
- 4:26So for those of us who are parents, we're trying to
- 4:29convince our children to do ABC or 123 for their own benefit and
- 4:33for our benefit. And it's the same thing for
- 4:35those of you who have executive responsibilities in
- 4:38corporations. You're trying to get the
- 4:41employees, people underneath you to do some things for the
- 4:44benefit and for the benefit of the corporation.
- 4:46So we are all perfectly aligned when it comes to looking at
- 4:49effective presentation, whether we are sales people or we are
- 4:53not. OK.
- 4:54So like I mentioned at the top of the episode, each of these
- 4:57skills has a subset of skills that are required.
- 5:00So what are the subset of skills that we need for effective,
- 5:04effective presentations? And one of them is effective
- 5:07listening skills. Now, this is something that we
- 5:10hinted at yesterday. We talked a little.
- 5:13We hinted about it in yesterday's podcast, because in
- 5:18yesterday's podcast we spoke about effective conversation
- 5:21skills. And effective listening skills
- 5:24actually does start with effective conversation skills.
- 5:26Because let's face it, most of the times, if we're worried
- 5:30about effective listening, it is within the context of a
- 5:33conversation. So yes, you can worry if you're
- 5:35listening effectively to a lecture or to a movie.
- 5:39But for most people, when we talk about effective listening,
- 5:41we are thinking about situations where husband is talking with
- 5:44wife, parents are talking with the child, salesman talking with
- 5:48the potential customer, What else, Doctor talking with the
- 5:51client. Those are the sorts of things
- 5:53that we're talking about when we talk about effective listening.
- 5:57Are you listening properly? Is that guiding the conversation
- 6:00along? So it's always within the
- 6:01context of a conversation. So we're going to start off with
- 6:04effective conversation skills. And yesterday, what I tried to
- 6:10stress that effective conversation skills are about
- 6:12asking questions about the other person and about their own
- 6:16personal circumstances, their own business circumstances,
- 6:19their cultural circumstances, you know, whatever the context
- 6:22is. So if you're a pastor, it's
- 6:24questions about this person, the spiritual background, their
- 6:29personal growth, the challenges that they're facing, you know,
- 6:31things like that. So effective listening begins
- 6:34with being able to ask the right kinds of questions.
- 6:38If it's a sales context, then we're already addressed that
- 6:41previously in yesterday's episode.
- 6:43And yeah, so I guess what I'm just trying to say is that
- 6:46effective listening, step number one, effective conversation
- 6:49skills and effective conversation skills begin with
- 6:53asking questions about the other person.
- 6:55It's not about talking. Then the reason why this is
- 6:59important, at least in the business context, is because
- 7:02when you ask someone questions and they give you answers, the
- 7:07answers that you get are going to form the basis of the
- 7:09presentation that you give in the future.
- 7:12So that's why it's important if I want to convince somebody to
- 7:15buy my OK. If I want to convince somebody
- 7:21to buy my bottle of water or my tissue paper or my turkeys or my
- 7:25chicken or my Let's say I have a ranch and I sell cows.
- 7:30If I'm trying to get them to buy it to say that this bottle of
- 7:33water is the best, this is quality beef.
- 7:35OK, let me stick to the beef thing.
- 7:37That will be easier to come up with an example.
- 7:39So if I'm saying buy this beef because this is quality beef, If
- 7:43I'm making all the arguments from my own point of end saying
- 7:45that this is Bosu cows imported from South Africa, Best protein,
- 7:50best taste, best this best that best, blah blah blah blah blah,
- 7:54I am guessing as to what I think is valuable.
- 7:57Oh by the way, this is your first time listening to the
- 7:59show. Please listen to yesterday's
- 8:01episode. It's going to give you a
- 8:04thorough context and understanding behind the dynamic
- 8:07that I'm trying to stress here. So if I'm saying this is Buzu
- 8:11cow imported from South Africa, it's the best.
- 8:14This is me guessing that this person gives a hoot about Buzu
- 8:18cow imported from South Africa or that it meets that purpose.
- 8:22Now it depends. This person might be buying the
- 8:24cow because they want to make kilishi, or they might be taking
- 8:28the cow because they want to grind it up to make animal feed
- 8:31for something else. Or they might be buying it
- 8:35because there's a wedding and so they want to slaughter the cow
- 8:38and then serve the guests. There are lots of reasons why
- 8:41this person might be buying the cow.
- 8:43Now I need to ask questions to figure out what's important to
- 8:48them, where they're coming from, where they're heading to.
- 8:51And the information that I get there is what should inform the
- 8:54presentation. So for somebody who just wants
- 8:57to create animal feed, it doesn't matter if this is a
- 9:00Boozoo cow imported from South Africa.
- 9:03Oh, sorry. By the way, it's been a long
- 9:05time since I studied cattle, you know, that was back in secondary
- 9:08school in Agrik. So for those of you who are
- 9:10familiar with these sorts of things, please forgive me if I'm
- 9:12using the wrong what's it called?
- 9:16Name or the wrong species? I can't remember which which
- 9:20species of cows is native to also native to other parts of
- 9:23the world. So just in case you're listening
- 9:25and every time I say Buzu cow, he greets, you know, he greets
- 9:28your ears because you know that Buzu cow is native to Nigeria.
- 9:31Then you know, please forgive me, but for now let me pretend
- 9:34that Buzu cows are from South Africa.
- 9:37So for someone who is trying to make animal feed to them, they
- 9:41might not be. They don't care that it is Buzu
- 9:43cow imported from South Africa. In fact, they might prefer local
- 9:47alternatives of the same size that are going to be able to
- 9:50guarantee the quantity. Maybe for them it's about the
- 9:55quantity of animal feed that they're going to get at the end
- 9:58of the day. So me going on about boozoo,
- 10:01boozoo, imported, imported, imported and tastes, how the
- 10:04thing tastes, I'll just be wasting my time.
- 10:07I have a conversation to the person, the person who wants to
- 10:10make animal feed and they're concerned more about size and
- 10:15servings and things like that. Then instead of hopping on about
- 10:19boozoo cows from South Africa, maybe I should go back to this
- 10:22table, look at the local alternatives that are ready here
- 10:25that we have not incurred importation costs on, and then
- 10:30things like that. And then build my presentation
- 10:32around why this is a better cow to buy.
- 10:34So you see how I can be persuasive unless I am
- 10:42listening. And I can't be listening unless
- 10:45I am asking the right kinds of questions and unless I am not
- 10:49making lots of assumptions. So this is the reason why most
- 10:53presentations fail, whether in the office or in church.
- 10:57Because as a pastor, you could be telling somebody that this is
- 11:01what God told me. God told me that you should do
- 11:03this. That is, you just talking at the
- 11:05person. And maybe in your heart of
- 11:08hearts, you actually believe that this is what God is telling
- 11:10you to do. But you haven't asked the
- 11:12question. You don't know what is the root
- 11:14of the person's problems. You haven't gotten to the root
- 11:16of the issue. You don't know where the person
- 11:18is leaning here or there. At the very least, you haven't
- 11:21gotten the person to be understood.
- 11:23If you listened, you asked questions, you paid attention,
- 11:26and the person felt understood, perhaps they'll be willing to
- 11:29listen to you regardless of whether it is truly the voice of
- 11:34God or not. So a lot of times, right?
- 11:36The presentations, feel departmental meeting, sales
- 11:40context. You're trying to persuade
- 11:42somebody to buy your car or whatever is because a lot of us
- 11:45are assuming that we know what's in the best interests of the
- 11:49other person who is across the table.
- 11:52So let's stop assuming that we know what the other person
- 11:55needs. So, pastor, stop assuming you
- 11:57know what the congregation person needs.
- 12:00Listen, Mr. Salesman, you're trying to sell your cow or
- 12:04you're trying to sell a car. You believe that Mercedes-Benz
- 12:08are the best? Or maybe you believe that Isuzu,
- 12:11Skoda or whatever, because it's fuel efficient, is the best car
- 12:14to buy for now because of rising fuel costs in Nigeria.
- 12:18Stop coming along with your assumptions.
- 12:20Ask questions. You might find out that the
- 12:21person doesn't give a hoot about fuel costs, and the person cares
- 12:25more about status in other in that case, you should be talking
- 12:28about Mercedes Benzes and the other kinds of cars.
- 12:31And don't assume that because the person shows up in a Baba
- 12:35Riga in the Mercedes-Benz, the guy is wearing the Rolex, he's
- 12:38flush for cash, his wife is wearing gold.
- 12:40Because of that, you just assume that they're going to buy
- 12:43another car of status. Maybe right now they're trying
- 12:46to downsize. Children have left the house,
- 12:48and quite frankly, they're looking for less expensive cars
- 12:50to maintain. And maybe in this case, even
- 12:53though it's a senator whose wife is wearing lots of gold, maybe,
- 12:56perhaps you should be talking about the Isuzu cars or the
- 12:59Skoda cars or the other things that are much more fuel, fuel
- 13:03efficient. So a lot of your presentations
- 13:05are failing because a lot of you are assuming that you know what
- 13:09the other person wants and what is in their best interest.
- 13:12Sometimes you might be right and sometimes you're not.
- 13:14But I think, but The thing is, it now makes this whole thing
- 13:18about giving presentations. It makes it a 5050 proposition.
- 13:22My work might not work. But The thing is, if you listen
- 13:24to people and then you tailor your presentation to their
- 13:27needs, which you got because you listened during the
- 13:30conversation, then the odds of you making a successful
- 13:34presentation goes up. Because now you know what
- 13:38Senator Ali wants. And you know the senator, the
- 13:41senator who's at your car lot, you know, know what it is that
- 13:44he wants? The father of the bride who is
- 13:47getting ready to buy stuff for the wedding, who wants to buy a
- 13:50cow? You now know what he wants or
- 13:53the person who is buying the car for animal feed, you know what
- 13:55she wants. I trust you guys get the
- 13:58picture. So it is by having open
- 14:00conversations and listening, you're going to be able to get
- 14:06to the end of what it is that they really want.
- 14:08So if you want to have more details about how to have
- 14:11open-ended conversations, frank conversations and conversations
- 14:15that focus on the other person, then listen to the podcast
- 14:18episode that we recorded before this one.
- 14:21There's a whole lot more details there.
- 14:23Now, another thing about effective presentations, the
- 14:27average person also needs to learn how to change the
- 14:29structure of a presentation. Or at least we Nigerians need to
- 14:33learn to change that. Because in Nigeria, and I can't
- 14:37speak for those of you in the UK or in America, but you know, we
- 14:40start off studying English in school and you know, we're
- 14:44taught how to write, give speeches, make presentations and
- 14:46blah blah blah. So summary, a lot of us leaving
- 14:50the Nigerian educational school system, we some we believe that
- 14:56an effective presentation goes like this.
- 14:59You start off by saying this is who we are.
- 15:01You know this is Zenith Bank or this is so and so corporation.
- 15:05Then you go into the whole part of this is how we began, our
- 15:08founder did this, Chairman of the Board, blah blah, blah blah
- 15:10blah. Then there's that section about
- 15:12this is our Board of Directors and our Chairman and our Board
- 15:15of this and our Board of that. And then you flaunt how you have
- 15:18Ambassador, this person on the board, ex Governor, this
- 15:21honourable member, so on, so and blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 15:25Then there's a section about how great we are, this is how great
- 15:28the product or the service is and blah, blah, blah.
- 15:30Then there's that laundry list. And truly for Nigerians anyway,
- 15:34it's a laundry list because they list out every single
- 15:36conceivable thing that the organization does.
- 15:39So here's a laundry list of services that we can provide for
- 15:41you and they will list it all. So let's say it's a company and
- 15:47they're making a presentation, their real estate investment
- 15:51trusts for instance. This is just me freestyling by
- 15:53the way. They will list everything there.
- 15:55They will list the research capability, their property
- 15:57valuation capabilities, their what else, their title
- 16:02capabilities, you know how you validate title and then things
- 16:05like that. Let's see what else you know.
- 16:08But you get the point. They would just list everything
- 16:10cha. So for this business, for this
- 16:12organization, this is absolutely everything we can do for you.
- 16:15And they would list it all, all the three at the 20 items, the
- 16:1810 items, the whatever. And then the summary would be
- 16:23basically over looking forward to working with you because we
- 16:25are the best in the industry. And then that's it, that's the
- 16:27presentation, that's the proposal.
- 16:29You double bind it or you circle bind it or whatever make it look
- 16:33nice and then you go and drop it off at the person's office.
- 16:38And then the average Nigerian person thinks ah that was that
- 16:41was a good meeting. We have dropped the proposal.
- 16:42I'm sure something is good is going to come out of this.
- 16:45Then they go home and then they tell their spouse that I created
- 16:49a solid presentation and we've sent it.
- 16:51God willing something would come out of this or they tell that to
- 16:54their business partners and then the game begins.
- 16:57You wait when I going to hear from them, when I going to hear
- 17:00from them. So that's what the average
- 17:01Nigerian person does. But to have effective business
- 17:05presentations, we need to change the order a little bit.
- 17:08We have to make the process the other person focused.
- 17:12That's why I'm saying we should listen to the episode that came
- 17:15before. This one.
- 17:16You have to be focused on the other person.
- 17:18If you notice, the first step is me, me, me, me, me, us, us, us.
- 17:21This is who we are. This is how we began.
- 17:24This is our Visionary Founder. This is our Visionary Chairman.
- 17:26This is our board, our business Directors.
- 17:28These are the services we invite.
- 17:30This Is Us. This is me.
- 17:31This Is Us. This is me, me, me, me, me, me,
- 17:33me. So we need to focus on the other
- 17:36person who is sitting at the opposite end of the table.
- 17:39So the new structure should look something like this.
- 17:42If you start off with a couple of chapters saying this is our
- 17:46understanding of who you are, so you should actually talk about
- 17:49the other person or the other person's company.
- 17:52Just give a sense that you understand who they are.
- 17:54Then you should try and devote a couple of paragraphs paragraphs
- 17:58to understanding the problems that they face.
- 18:02And then there should be the part in the presentation and it
- 18:05shouldn't just be in the document.
- 18:06But this is the part where when you're doing the presentation,
- 18:09you actually should stop and look at them and talk to them,
- 18:13not reading from the presentation.
- 18:15This is a point where you now confirm that if your
- 18:19understanding is correct so far, if your understanding of them
- 18:22and their business is correct, them and their situation or the
- 18:25understanding of them and the problems that they face is
- 18:27correct so far. It is at this point that you now
- 18:30ask for feedback because you need to know that you are on
- 18:34point. This is the point where if you
- 18:36misunderstood the business, it would be nice if somebody from
- 18:39the other side says, OK, well, OK, no problem.
- 18:41When you said page one, page two, that actually is correct.
- 18:43But then on that page three, you know that item over there, you
- 18:46know that's not us. We, well, we actually do that,
- 18:49but it's not, it's not our core area of focus.
- 18:51So let's focus on the items on page one.
- 18:54Now you know you have checked your assumptions.
- 18:57You now know that when you're proceeding, before you try and
- 19:00close the sale, you should be focusing on the things that you
- 19:03identified on page one and page 2 because they told you so.
- 19:06So once you get all these things, then this is the point
- 19:10where you now say, OK, if my understanding of who you are and
- 19:14the problem you face is correct, then these are my
- 19:18recommendations in my own professional opinion, as your
- 19:22financial advisor or as your lawyer or as your butcher or
- 19:28whatever. Because even if you're a
- 19:29butcher, it's the same. We need to try and figure out
- 19:32who this person is and the problem that they face.
- 19:34You know, you have to run the summary now.
- 19:35OK. Oh, so sorry.
- 19:36If I understand you correctly, it's because of your daughter's
- 19:39wedding. That's the reason why you're
- 19:40here. People are cooking for 2500
- 19:43people. And the law on cash you want to
- 19:46buy the kind of cow that one is one that if you buy it you you
- 19:50use that account feed 2000 people you are not worried about
- 19:53the taste profile lobby because your cookies that you are going
- 19:56to spice it. Well OK no problem.
- 19:59So now that I understand this thing correct these are the
- 20:02options I am going to put forward this boozoo from South
- 20:05Africa is still an optional because they are different
- 20:07grades. We can discuss option #2.
- 20:10We can try this kind of cow, which is look at it is big, is
- 20:17hefty, is you know, whatever. It will give you all the meat
- 20:19that you need. And then option #3, instead of
- 20:23buying one cow, maybe we can buy seven goats.
- 20:26So you know, this is a thought process in my own professional
- 20:29of opinion. If I understand everything
- 20:30correctly, this is my recommended course of action.
- 20:34Option A, which is this. Option B which requires XYZ, and
- 20:40then option C which is blah blah blah.
- 20:44You give them three and then you ask the question, so which of
- 20:48these options seem most suitable to you?
- 20:51You don't have to use the exact words that I'm using, you know,
- 20:53use your verbiage. It doesn't have to be English
- 20:56because I was listening in on a session where one where somebody
- 21:02broke into Yoruba and so somebody, so excuse me, somebody
- 21:05in the audience thought was unprofessional that the person
- 21:07broke into Yoruba. And I'm glad that the person who
- 21:09was chairing the session was able to convince the people
- 21:14that, look, it's not about whether it's in English or in
- 21:15Yoruba. We are talking about persuasive
- 21:18arts here. So it depends on the context.
- 21:21There's no point in going on and blabbering on in English if the
- 21:25person doesn't understand Turinchi and the person wants to
- 21:28speak outside. The person wants to do
- 21:29Kadankada, or you know, or the person wants to do batting
- 21:33Batty, the person wants to speak Yoruba.
- 21:34So if you are good with Yoruba, then by all means he's looking
- 21:40at this going to be Yoruba conversation and you can flow in
- 21:43Yoruba, then by all means, you know, switch and go accordingly.
- 21:46It's about communication, passing across information,
- 21:49understanding what is being said and trying to achieve persuasion
- 21:52at the at the end of the day. So you try and figure out which
- 21:56of these options are most suitable to the person.
- 21:59Now This is why I should adopt this approach.
- 22:01Again, this is the approach. Start off by saying this is from
- 22:06the conversation we have had so far from the questions you've
- 22:08asked. This is your understanding of
- 22:10who the person is. This is your understanding of
- 22:12the problems that they face. You now ask for feedback.
- 22:15Hope everything is correct. OK, if everything is correct
- 22:17professionally from my own, from my own the way, then I'm
- 22:20thinking this is what may I recommend you?
- 22:22We can do option one which is this.
- 22:25We can do option 2 which is this and we can do option 3 which is
- 22:29this. All these options that I've said
- 22:31so far, which of them seems more suitable to you?
- 22:35If the guy says OK, no problem, thanks, I've heard everything
- 22:37you know. Instead of this one kind of
- 22:39thing I'm thinking let's buy seven goods no problem.
- 22:43So if you structure your presentation this way, your
- 22:46potential customers or clients are going to see and get a sense
- 22:49that you have been paying attention to them.
- 22:51Because in most parts of the world, especially in Nigeria, is
- 22:55is an absolute buzzkill where you're talking and looks like
- 22:58this person is not even paying attention to you.
- 22:59The person Josh Shah wants to sell this cow or this car or the
- 23:03person has made-up their mind that they must sell this
- 23:05particular jeans and it doesn't matter what it is that you say,
- 23:08they're trying to get you to buy this thing that they've decided
- 23:10is the best. So it's a huge turn off.
- 23:12So if you structure a presentation this way, the
- 23:14potential customer clients will see that you're focused on them
- 23:18and that you have a keen understanding of their context
- 23:20or the solutions that they're trying to look for, then giving
- 23:24options during the presentation and then trying to narrow down
- 23:28the suitable one at the end. It all means that in future
- 23:31conversations, you now have a very specific and a very clear,
- 23:34a very focused line of action that these people have
- 23:37emotionally bought into. Let's go back to the original
- 23:40scenario where we do the Nigerian thing, We present the
- 23:43we go to the office, we drop the proposal.
- 23:46We don't have a conversation. And the proposal says, This Is
- 23:48Us, this is our Board of directors.
- 23:50This is why we're the best. This is all we do.
- 23:52We look forward to doing business with you.
- 23:54And then you're waiting and waiting and waiting.
- 23:56You want to follow up. But true of the matter is that
- 23:59if you call the follow up, the only thing you can say is, Bros,
- 24:01how far? Now.
- 24:02Sure, you guys received our proposal.
- 24:04OK, I wanted to confirm. And then you call up in 2 weeks
- 24:06and say, oh, Bros, how are you doing?
- 24:08I hear you. I'm just greet, you know, as
- 24:11chairman, seen the proposal and then another and then maybe
- 24:17another two or three weeks you call and basically you're just
- 24:19following up to follow up. You have no clear reason for
- 24:22following up. But then when you take this path
- 24:25and there's a focus line of action that people have bought
- 24:27into, at the end when you call to follow up, there's something
- 24:30specific that you're calling to follow up on.
- 24:34So this is the spirit of how business presentations or
- 24:36proposals ought to be handled. It doesn't have to be the exact
- 24:40same structure, but the spirit of the interaction should be the
- 24:46same. Number one, talking about the
- 24:48other party #2, show your so that you understand their goals,
- 24:53understand where they're coming from, understand what they're
- 24:56trying to achieve. Then give options in the
- 24:59proposal, not just one. Give two or three options and
- 25:02the option should be based on what they said, not what you
- 25:05think is the best. So give them options based on
- 25:09what they said, and then get feedback on them from them, from
- 25:13what you think is the most promising option.
- 25:16Not everybody is going to be able to.
- 25:18Not everybody will be comfortable enough to go ahead
- 25:21like back to the seven goats. Now that Olga has agreed he's
- 25:24going to buy seven goats for his daughter's wedding instead of 1
- 25:26count, Not everybody is going to be willing to drop the money
- 25:29down, or they still want to think about it or whatever.
- 25:32But The thing is, game feedback. Looks like we now have one thing
- 25:35that we're talking about, and in the future we can start tweaking
- 25:39that proposition. So should it be 7 cows or 10, or
- 25:43should it be 7 cows or five? We're gonna start negotiating.
- 25:46How much is it per, per. Per goat?
- 25:49Is it OK? Well, I haven't bought a goat in
- 25:52a very long time now, but last time I did years ago, many years
- 25:57ago. OK, well, I didn't buy it
- 26:00anyway. Somebody at home bought it for
- 26:02me. Actually, there was 20 K that
- 26:04they asked for me to send. So let me just pretend that
- 26:07ghosts, Goats still cost 7K. Now I know in 2024, ghosts are
- 26:11much more expensive than that because of the way the price of
- 26:15things have gone up. So yes, maybe I'm out of touch.
- 26:19OK, So then you start pricing, is it going to be 20 K per goat
- 26:22or 25 per goat or 17, five per goat or 15 per goat?
- 26:25And then you're going to be trying to tie down, I'm trying
- 26:29to amend things in the options that you've discussed.
- 26:34But you guys see that if you follow things this way, then
- 26:36you're going to have a strong chance for closing the deal and
- 26:39for making an effective business presentation.
- 26:42Now for those of you who are business people, I'm sure you've
- 26:46gotten a lot of insight, especially if you haven't heard
- 26:48things broken down this way before.
- 26:50But for those of you who are career people, you work in
- 26:53Zenith Bank or you work in Hilton Hotel, you're wondering
- 26:55how does all this apply to me? All these sales skills, all
- 26:59these techniques, all these perspectives are talking about,
- 27:02how does it help me in my own career development?
- 27:05How does this help me in personal growth?
- 27:06How does it help me in my personal development?
- 27:09This is how it helps if you follow this process at office
- 27:13departmental meetings. You're going to be able to
- 27:16decipher, you're going to be able to figure out what are the
- 27:18key initiatives for your organization.
- 27:21Because there are times, let's face it, when you're having
- 27:25office meeting, departmental meeting and you think that the
- 27:28department should be focused on 123 and you make your
- 27:31presentation based on that. But by the time Chairman talks,
- 27:33you find out that as far as Chairman is concerned, you
- 27:35should only be looking at 456123 are not even on the table.
- 27:40This happens. So you're trying to introduce
- 27:43conversational elements that are focused on the other people,
- 27:46other stakeholders within the organizations, having
- 27:48conversations with them. You're going to be able to drill
- 27:50down on what they think is most important for them and for the
- 27:53organization as a whole. So that when the time comes for
- 27:55departmental meeting instead of making a presentation and you
- 27:59talk about 123 and everybody thinks you are talking of
- 28:02points, you'll be able to go straight to 456.
- 28:04Because you've spoken to Chairman behind the scenes,
- 28:07you've spoken to other stakeholders, other departmental
- 28:10heads, other people. And you know now that regardless
- 28:13of what you think the organization is concerned about
- 28:154-5, six, look, it's about being effective here, not about being
- 28:18right per Southeast. So if you really think 1213
- 28:23should be the best things to pursue, that's another
- 28:25conversation for another podcast.
- 28:28But for now if everybody thinks 456, you best be sure that your
- 28:33presentation is catering to that from the beginning.
- 28:35So that's how it's going to help you at office departmental
- 28:38meetings. That is how it's going to help
- 28:40your career within the Ministry of Finance if you work there or
- 28:44within Central Bank if you work there, or within Hilton Hotel if
- 28:47you work there or Zenith Bank if you work there.
- 28:50And it's also going to be the same when it comes to church
- 28:53meetings or community meetings or interpersonal gatherings or
- 28:56things like that. So back to the whole thing about
- 28:58the pastor. After you've listened, you've
- 29:00asked a couple of questions and things like that, you now think
- 29:03you can tease out what the opportunity the options are.
- 29:06You throw some options to the person 123, what do you think
- 29:10resonates with you the most? The person selects option two is
- 29:13then you can now go into the whole thing of yeah, God is
- 29:15telling me and blah blah blah blah blah.
- 29:17You can now key in to option 2, so it's the same.
- 29:21You're going to be much more effective at your church
- 29:23meetings, church departmental meetings, at your pastoral
- 29:26meetings. If you're a deaconess and you're
- 29:27trying to guide young ladies in the church, they're going to be
- 29:30much more effective at community meetings.
- 29:32Maybe we'll travel home at Christmas, maybe we'll do
- 29:34village meetings or other interpersonal gatherings.
- 29:37Who knows? Chess, society, book club,
- 29:39whatever is going to be the same outcome then, because your
- 29:43proposals during the meetings are going to be based on what
- 29:46people have actually said, the chances of you building
- 29:49consensus around something is very, very high because you're
- 29:52not using your own words, you're using their own words.
- 29:56If you can use their exact words, the better.
- 29:59And most importantly, you're going to gain the reputation as
- 30:03being a problem solver or a proactive thinker In your
- 30:06personal circles and also in your official circles, we'll be
- 30:09like, ah, that babe. She's a correct girl.
- 30:11As in, she's a problem solver. She knows how to solve problems.
- 30:15Like, were you there at the last meeting?
- 30:16Nothing. She said, Oh my God, she.
- 30:18And she's just she's she's awesome.
- 30:20She's awesome. She's awesome.
- 30:22And the same thing, you know, if you're a boy is the same.
- 30:24Mr. Bayo, Mr. Bayo, Go Getter is the correct guy.
- 30:28That this how he did this, this how he did that.
- 30:29If you see the way that he handled this and this and this
- 30:32and this and that, that's the kind of reputation that you're
- 30:34going to get. So just like with the last
- 30:37episode, I'm going to cap up this episode by asking are you
- 30:40convinced that sales training will help you whether you run a
- 30:43business or not? It's my opinion and you should,
- 30:47and I hope you do. But if you're not convinced,
- 30:48don't worry. We still have a few more issues
- 30:50to discuss. And tomorrow we are going to
- 30:52deal with getting people to take the next course of action.
- 30:55Because making a presentation is one thing, whether you do it the
- 30:59old school Nigerian way and you go and drop the binder that you
- 31:01did circular binding and you know with Times New font and all
- 31:06that. So whether you do it that way or
- 31:08whether you do it this, what would I say amended, adopted,
- 31:13refined way that I'm proposing. So no matter which way you do
- 31:19it, dropping the proposal is one thing, getting the person to
- 31:22take the next step, which is either reading the proposal,
- 31:25going for site visits, paying a deposit or whatever it is, that
- 31:29actually is something else. So we'll get to that tomorrow,
- 31:32especially since we've been talking for over 30 minutes.
- 31:35So that's all for today folks. I remember to connect with me on
- 31:37WhatsApp. The phone number is 0806466
- 31:412140. The country code is 234.
- 31:44For those of you who are not Nigerian, then connect with me
- 31:47on LinkedIn. My name is Tabashima Ayede.
- 31:49I'm the host of the show. You can confirm the spelling of
- 31:52my name and my e-mail address from the link.
- 31:54We are currently listening to this episode.
- 31:56Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 31:58I'll catch you guys at the next recording.