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- 0:00With summer coming up, we're entering my favorite season of
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- 0:29drink responsibly. In January 2022, posts started
- 0:33cropping up across Reddit and TikTok questioning why some of
- 0:36the internet's biggest creators had suddenly become obsessed
- 0:40with Snapchat. These Internet Flu noted that
- 0:43huge influencers like David Dobrik, Hannah Stalking, and the
- 0:47Demilio sisters had started posting up to 100 times a day on
- 0:52the platform, raising suspicions about how the tech giant was
- 0:56courting these massive creators and if they were engaged in some
- 1:00type of partnership that their audience wasn't aware of.
- 1:03As one Reddit user wrote in the David Dobrik subreddit.
- 1:06This is just a guess, but it seems pretty obvious to me that
- 1:09David has some kind of exclusive partnership with Snapchat to
- 1:12only post content there or to significantly limit other
- 1:15content. Among all the speculated reasons
- 1:18about no vlog and podcast content, it seems to me he might
- 1:21have leveraged this into a deal where he's posting almost
- 1:24entirely on Snapchat. People know that's the only
- 1:27place they're going to get his content these days, which drives
- 1:29people to an outdated platform, which is huge money for David
- 1:34with very little effort. As this Reddit user mentioned,
- 1:37Snapchat had felt like an outdated platform for several
- 1:41years by then. Despite solidifying itself as
- 1:44the preferred app for millennials to communicate
- 1:46throughout their teens and early 20s, Snapchat felt like it was
- 1:49left behind amid the rise of the creator economy, but this
- 1:53partnership with mainstream creators felt like a play to
- 1:56change that. Over the next couple of years,
- 1:58Snapchat would prioritize creator satisfaction better than
- 2:02most of its competitors. In a bid to draw more big names
- 2:05to the app, the company launched a lucrative monetization
- 2:08program, encouraged creators to post the easiest content
- 2:12possible with no need for high production quality, and invested
- 2:16in creator relations through Dedicated, located account
- 2:19managers that were accessible via phone call or text.
- 2:22Soon, this strategy started to pay off.
- 2:25Audiences were flocking to watch their favorite creators on
- 2:27Snapchat over YouTube, TikTok and Instagram, and the amount of
- 2:31time that users spent on creator stories was increasing 10% year
- 2:36on year. This is the story of Snapchat,
- 2:39how millennials favorite messaging app proved that it
- 2:42could compete in the creator economy and find relevance once
- 2:46again with the new youngest generation online from
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- 3:27it through the lens of how Snapchat is doing things
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- 4:33phone because of the pod. Snapchat was founded in 2011
- 4:41thanks to a trio of Stanford University students, Reggie
- 4:45Brown, Evan Spiegel and Bobby Murphy.
- 4:47It all started with Brown's idea for a messaging app centered
- 4:51around disappearing photos. According to an anonymous source
- 4:54cited by TechCrunch journalist Ingrid London, the idea came
- 4:58about during a conversation with one of Brown's frat brothers
- 5:01about sexting. Whether this is exactly what
- 5:04sparked the idea for Snapchat or not, the story goes that Brown
- 5:07shared the idea with Spiegel, leading to a handshake deal that
- 5:11laid the foundation for their partnership.
- 5:13Murphy was then brought on to the team as they worked to make
- 5:15the concept into a real platform.
- 5:18According to court documents cited by the Los Angeles Times,
- 5:21the trio divided roles early on. Brown was chief marketing
- 5:25officer, Murphy became chief technology officer, and Spiegel
- 5:28stepped into the role of chief executive.
- 5:31While this may seem all pretty above board, things changed when
- 5:35Brown was reportedly pushed out of the company.
- 5:37The three spent time over the summer of 2011 working on the
- 5:411st iteration of Snapchat, then called Picaboo, and the app was
- 5:45launched in September of that same year.
- 5:48However, according to a lawsuit filed by Brown in 2013, soon
- 5:52after the platform's launch, the three partners held a
- 5:55contentious phone conversation about the startup, Quote,
- 5:58Spiegel decided Brown's contribution wasn't measuring
- 6:01up, according to Spiegel's deposition, and Spiegel and
- 6:04Murphy change the passwords for the startup servers and
- 6:07accounts, reports the Los Angeles Times.
- 6:10The lawsuit was settled a year later in 2014, with Snapchat
- 6:14issuing a statement acknowledging that Brown did
- 6:17come up with the concept. The statement declared that,
- 6:19quote, Reggie Brown originally came up with the idea of
- 6:22creating an application for sending disappearing picture
- 6:25messages while he was a student at Stanford University and that
- 6:29he, quote, collaborated with Spiegel and Murphy on the
- 6:31development of Snapchat during its early and most formative
- 6:34days. According to Snaps filing with
- 6:37the Securities and Exchange Commission, reported by the Los
- 6:40Angeles Times, Brown also settled for $157.5 million.
- 6:46The payout was split into two installments, $50 million in
- 6:502014 and $107.5 million in 2016. Despite the rocky start between
- 6:57its founders, Snapchat found early success and quickly carved
- 7:00out its place in the digital world.
- 7:03After its iPhone launch in 2011, the app expanded to Android the
- 7:06following year, allowing for a much larger user base.
- 7:10Snapchat's early users were documented in the company's
- 7:13first blog post in 2012, penned by Spiegel.
- 7:16In it, Spiegel revealed that the app's earliest adopters were
- 7:20mostly high school students who use Snapchat to communicate
- 7:23discreetly. Quote.
- 7:24Most of them were high school students who are using Snapchat
- 7:26as a new way to pass notes in class.
- 7:29Behind the back, photos of teachers and funny faces were
- 7:32sent back and forth throughout the day.
- 7:34Server data supported this, and we saw peaks of activity during
- 7:37the school day and dips on the weekend, the blog post reads.
- 7:41According to The Guardian, by June 2013, Snapchat boasted more
- 7:45than 5 million daily active users, with 200 million photos
- 7:50and videos being shared every single day.
- 7:53And this momentum didn't slow. By 2017, the apps daily active
- 7:57users had skyrocketed to 166 million, a 36% increase from the
- 8:03year prior. However, growth plateaued in the
- 8:06late Twenty 10s, with daily active users reaching 191
- 8:10million in early 2018 and dipping slightly to 190,000,000
- 8:15by 2019. Nevertheless, Snapchat has since
- 8:18managed to bounce back. Fast forward to 2024 and the
- 8:22platform's resilience is clear, with daily active users climbing
- 8:26to 422 million at the start of this year.
- 8:29Ultimately, this trajectory underscores Snapchat staying
- 8:32power even as a continued and used to navigate the ever
- 8:36changing landscape of social media.
- 8:38Snapchats enduring success can largely be attributed to its
- 8:42continuous innovation and the way it refined how people
- 8:45connect online. At its core was the disappearing
- 8:48photo, a feature that felt extremely novel when the
- 8:51platform first launched. While this functionality sparked
- 8:54its fair share of controversy, more on that later, it
- 8:57undeniably struck a chord with users.
- 9:00For many, these messages became a key way to communicate with
- 9:03friends, capturing and sharing moments in real time without the
- 9:07pressure of permanence or perfection.
- 9:09This in the moment ethos quickly became central to Snapchats
- 9:13identity, setting it apart from the competitor platforms at the
- 9:16time. As Spiegel wrote in the
- 9:18inaugural blog post quote, Snapchat isn't about capturing
- 9:21the traditional Kodak moment, it's about communicating with
- 9:24the full range of human emotion, not just what appears to be
- 9:28pretty or perfect. We're building a photo app that
- 9:30doesn't conform to unrealistic notions of beauty or perfection,
- 9:34but rather creates a space to be funny, honest, or whatever else
- 9:38you might feel like at the moment you take and share a
- 9:40snap. Snapchats focus on community
- 9:43building, and its identity as a messaging first platform only
- 9:47deepened as it rolled out new features.
- 9:50Now, we won't dive into every single one.
- 9:52Chances are many of you have used Snapchat at one point or
- 9:55another and understand how the app works.
- 9:57But features like Memories, Geo Filters, Bitmojis, and Streaks
- 10:01all added new layers to how users could communicate and
- 10:04share their lives. Take Bitmojis, for example.
- 10:08Introduced in 2016 after Snapchat acquired Bitstrips,
- 10:12these customizable avatars gave users a playful way to represent
- 10:16themselves. As Digi Day put it at the time
- 10:19quote, the draw for users is twofold and lets them stamp
- 10:23their identity on messages and communicate visually.
- 10:26That same year, Snapchat also launched Streaks, which
- 10:29encouraged friends to exchange Snaps daily.
- 10:31This simple yet addictive feature not only drove
- 10:34consistent engagement but also helped users stay connected with
- 10:38friends in a unique way. These updates may seem small
- 10:41individually, but together they helped cement Snapchat as a
- 10:45cornerstone of digital socializing.
- 10:47Of course, that's not to mention the Snapchat spec Spectacles
- 10:50that launched in November 2016. At the time, they seemed a bit
- 10:55out there. This was before AI and AR/VR had
- 10:59really taken off, but they offered a new way for users to
- 11:02engage with the app. The first version of Spectacles
- 11:05recorded short 10 second videos in a circular format, which
- 11:09could be viewed on Snapchat or exported elsewhere.
- 11:11While the product had its issues struggling with broader sales,
- 11:15resulting in almost $40 million in unsold inventory, it was
- 11:19still a bold move. Few platforms aside from Google
- 11:22were experimenting with hardware like this, making Spectacles a
- 11:26stand out example of Snapchat's willingness to define itself as
- 11:30something beyond a social media platform.
- 11:33With Snapchat seeking to strike a balance between innovation,
- 11:36connection, and variety, it's not exactly surprising that
- 11:39certain tech giants hoped to acquire Snapchat.
- 11:43Snapchat got some pretty insane offers from Google and Facebook
- 11:47over the years. In 2013, for instance, Snapchat
- 11:50reportedly turned down a $3 billion buyout from Facebook,
- 11:55according to the Wall Street Journal.
- 11:56Spiegel, who was 23 at the time, was reluctant to accept the
- 12:00deal. He believed Snapchat's rapid
- 12:02growth would lead to more significant buyout opportunities
- 12:05down the line, potentially at a higher valuation quote, they
- 12:09said. Spiegel is hoping Snapchat's
- 12:11numbers of users and messages will grow enough by then to
- 12:14justify an even larger valuation, the people briefed on
- 12:18the matter said wrote The Wall Street Street Journal.
- 12:21Offers would come flowing in just once again three years
- 12:24later. In 2016, just a few months
- 12:26before Snapchat would officially go public under the trading
- 12:29symbol Snap, Mark Zuckerberg reportedly approached Spiegel to
- 12:33discuss another potential acquisition, but the CEO once
- 12:36again declined. Google also expressed interest
- 12:39that same year, holding informal talks with Snapchat.
- 12:42Reports suggest the tech giant floated an offer of $30 billion.
- 12:47Despite the significant jump in valuation, Spiegel remained firm
- 12:51on his decision not to sell the company.
- 12:54With Snapchat refusing to budget over the years, it was only a
- 12:57matter of time before other social media companies would
- 13:00start copying the features that made Snapchat so popular.
- 13:04Facebook, for instance, launched Slingshot in 2014.
- 13:08According to Ellis Hamburger for The Verge, Slingshot allowed
- 13:11users to quote, take a quick photo or video, mark it up with
- 13:15some colorful drawings, caption it with big white text, and then
- 13:18fire it off to a bunch of friends, which all sounds very
- 13:22Snapchat. But there were some differences.
- 13:25For instance, users couldn't quote view an incoming shot
- 13:28until you send a shot back to the sender.
- 13:31Ultimately, Slingshot didn't take off quite like Snapchat,
- 13:34and the app shuttered a year after its launch.
- 13:37But things really came to a head when Instagram launched Stories
- 13:40in 2016, a feature that originated on Snapchat Quote.
- 13:44The feature is nearly identical to the central feed in Snapchat,
- 13:48which is also called Stories and which has helped supercharged
- 13:51the company's growth rate after it was introduced in 2013, Casey
- 13:55Newton reported for The Verge at the time.
- 13:57Even in an industry where building on other successes is
- 13:59the norm, Instagrams copy and paste take on Snapchat Stories
- 14:03stands out for its sheer brazenness.
- 14:05While other tech companies copied the platform, Snapchat
- 14:09was also inspired by successful elements of different popular
- 14:12social media apps. In 2017, for instance, the
- 14:16platform issued an entire redesign that moved Snapchat
- 14:19away from chronological feeds towards algorithms.
- 14:22Much like Facebook and Instagram quote, the redesign separates
- 14:26the app into two feeds and infuses each of them with
- 14:29algorithms. Snapchat is now embracing the
- 14:32black box equations that it once shunned, Carrie Flynn wrote for
- 14:36Mashable upon the redesign's release.
- 14:38The two feeds are starkly different.
- 14:40One feed ranks friends primarily based on how often the user
- 14:44interacts with them. The other suggests community and
- 14:46publisher content primarily based on users interests.
- 14:50This approach wasn't necessarily groundbreaking, but it was part
- 14:54of what Snapchat needed to stay competitive and connect with the
- 14:57growing creator economy. The platform later fine-tuned
- 15:00its redesign, seeking to solidify its appeal to
- 15:03publishers, influencers, and regular users alike.
- 15:07By 2018, Snapchat combined user generated Stories with
- 15:11professional content on its Discover page, a feature
- 15:14initially introduced in 2015. As Vox reported at the time
- 15:18quote, it's possible that putting Stories inside Discover
- 15:21is a push to get more people watching publisher content or
- 15:24content from celebrities. Snapchat could be luring people
- 15:27to the Discover section by putting their friends there.
- 15:30Interestingly, Snapchat later reverted the reverse
- 15:33chronological order for inbox messages, moving away from the
- 15:37algorithm heavy approach of the original redesign.
- 15:39This kept the apps focus on real time communication and community
- 15:43building while still adapting to the growing creator economy.
- 15:47Ultimately, by blending its original messaging format with
- 15:50new features for creators and businesses, Snapchat managed to
- 15:54stay relevant without losing what made it unique in the 1st
- 15:57place. While Snapchat leaned into
- 15:59features that kept it popping popular with Gen.
- 16:01Z and millennials, the app wasn't without its share of
- 16:04controversy. We won't dive into all the
- 16:06scandals over the years, but they do offer valuable insight
- 16:10into how Snapchat operated and the challenges it has faced
- 16:13along the way. Of course, with disappearing
- 16:16photos at the core of Snapchat, it's no surprise that
- 16:19inappropriate content became a concern.
- 16:21This was especially problematic given the app's user base, some
- 16:25of whom were minors. While there was plenty of panic
- 16:27about teens using the app to share explicit content, studies
- 16:31and reporting suggest it wasn't the main reason they use the
- 16:34app. For most users, the disappearing
- 16:36messages were simply a convenient way to chat and share
- 16:39moments without worrying about permanence.
- 16:41Nevertheless, Snapchat has faced several instances involving the
- 16:45misuse of its disappearing photo feature of the years, leading to
- 16:49privacy violations and legal issues.
- 16:51In 2013, for example, Montreal police arrested a group of
- 16:55teenage boys on child pornography charges for
- 16:59circulating explicit images of their girlfriends.
- 17:01Reports indicated the boys coaxed their partners into
- 17:04taking the photos and sending them via Snapchat.
- 17:07Another notable case reported by The Guardian involved a Tumblr
- 17:11blog called Snapchat Sluts in 2012, which published topless
- 17:15photos of women, claiming they were submitted willingly, but
- 17:18this was unable to be confirmed. Around the same time, there was
- 17:22also a Facebook page called Snapchat Leaked, which seemingly
- 17:25shared saved Snapchat images without users permission.
- 17:29Snapchats disappearing photos and messages feature raised
- 17:33questions about how these images were still being circulated.
- 17:36While screenshots were the most obvious method, third party apps
- 17:39also allowed users to bypass Snapchats protections and save
- 17:44supposedly disappearing content. These issues led to a 2014
- 17:48complaint from the FTC in the United States.
- 17:51The FTC accused Snapchat of misleading users about the
- 17:54permanence of their content, claiming the company overstated
- 17:58promises around disappearing images and messages.
- 18:01Additionally, the FTC alleged that Snapchat collected users
- 18:04contact information without proper notice or consent and
- 18:08failed to secure its Find Friends feature as promised.
- 18:11As a result, Snapchat agreed to implement a comprehensive
- 18:15privacy program, subject to independent monitoring for 20
- 18:19years. Despite efforts to improve
- 18:21privacy, Snapchat has continued to face concerns over user data.
- 18:25In 2019, reports surfaced that multiple Snap employees had
- 18:29allegedly used their access to user data, raising serious
- 18:33questions about internal safeguards.
- 18:36More recently, features like Snap Map and My AI have sparked
- 18:40fresh privacy debates. Snap Map, for example, has faced
- 18:44criticism for its potential to enable stalking, while
- 18:47Snapchat's AI chatbot has drawn scrutiny over data collection
- 18:51practices. Beyond issues around privacy,
- 18:54the platform has also been accused of facilitating shady
- 18:57exchanges. Last year, for example, the FBI
- 19:00and the United States Justice Department questioned the role
- 19:03that Snapchat has played in drug dealing as the United States
- 19:06deals with a surge of fentanyl related overdoses among young
- 19:10people. Though Snapchat has faced
- 19:11challenges, its user base has continued to grow along with the
- 19:15number of creators engaging with the platform now.
- 19:18Snapchat has long been a space for creators and celebrities to
- 19:21share more personal content, and in the late 2010's, its
- 19:25popularity among celebrities surged.
- 19:27Kylie Jenner, known on Snapchat as Kylie's My Nizzle, became one
- 19:32of the platform's most prolific users.
- 19:34She turned her account into a personal diary and promotional
- 19:37tool, sharing everything from Kylie cosmetics, watches and 15
- 19:41part makeup tutorials to experimenting with new filters.
- 19:45Her approach resonated with fans eager for a look into the lives
- 19:48of the rich and famous, solidifying Snapchats appeal as
- 19:52a space for authentic and engaging celebrity content.
- 19:55It wasn't long before other big name celebrities followed suit.
- 19:58Ariana Grande joined Snapchat. But under the handle at
- 20:01Moonlight Bay, Justin Bieber became Rick the Sizzler, and
- 20:05even Nicki Minaj made headlines when she went viral after being
- 20:09bombarded by thousands of fan calls on the app.
- 20:12While mainstream celebrities have largely stepped back from
- 20:15Snapchat, many influencers are as active as ever on the
- 20:18platform. This shift hasn't gone
- 20:20unnoticed, with users wondering why influencers would prioritize
- 20:25Snapchat over platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube.
- 20:28While part of this may come down to a community building
- 20:31component, it also comes down to money.
- 20:33Over the past few years, Snapchat has introduced a number
- 20:36of schemes to bring creators onto the platform.
- 20:39Reportedly, the most lucrative payout program is through
- 20:42Snapchat Spotlight, which was first announced four years ago
- 20:46as an answer to Tik Tok's rising success.
- 20:48Similar to TikTok and other TikTok inspired interfaces like
- 20:52Reels, Spotlight is a stream of endless content quote.
- 20:55Although the format will be familiar to anyone who's ever
- 20:58watched TikTok, Snap says it's made specific decisions based on
- 21:02its user base. Ashley Carmen wrote for The
- 21:04Verge at the time of the launch. For one, Spotlight Snaps won't
- 21:07feature a public comment section, and profiles themselves
- 21:10are private by default, so Snapchatters can keep their
- 21:13accounts locked while still posting content.
- 21:16Upon its rollout, the company announced it would pay out
- 21:19Spotlight creators from a pot of $1 million per day.
- 21:23Snapchat promised it would continue to pay these awards at
- 21:26least through 2020, according to Business Insider.
- 21:30Within, several creators had already earned over $1 million
- 21:35at the time of the interview, TikTok creators Katie Feeney and
- 21:38Joey Rogoff were both on track to hit the $1,000,000 mark,
- 21:42while Cam Casey had raked in over $3.5 million.
- 21:47With that being said, the introduction of Spotlight put
- 21:50Snapchat on the map for creators looking to grow their careers
- 21:53and get paid. Quote, the energy goes where the
- 21:56money is. I put 100% of my focus into
- 21:59Snapchat just because it's where the money is.
- 22:01We'd love to see it turn into more of a long term thing like
- 22:04TikTok creator fund Cam Casey told the publication.
- 22:08But of course, the rate of these payouts couldn't exactly last
- 22:11forever. In 2021, the company changed its
- 22:15payout structure, rewarding creators 1,000,000 per week,
- 22:18down from 1,000,000 per day. They lowered the payment again
- 22:22in 2022, announcing the company would be paying creators
- 22:26millions per year. Business Insider explored the
- 22:29impact of declining Spotlight payouts with stories from
- 22:31influencers like Nathan Kessel. He shared that he had been
- 22:34earning between 20,000 and $50,000 per month on Spotlight
- 22:39in 2021, bringing his total earnings to six figures before
- 22:42payouts suddenly stopped in November of that year.
- 22:45Though payments resumed in mid 2022, Nathan noted they were
- 22:49less consistent, making it harder for creators to rely on
- 22:53Spotlight as a stable income source.
- 22:55Quote, As a creator, it is absolutely terrifying to go from
- 22:58making this kind of money to then absolutely absolutely
- 23:01nothing. It will last for some time and
- 23:02then all of a sudden it's gone without any kind of notice.
- 23:06Though creator payments have decreased significantly since
- 23:092020, Spotlight is reportedly a priority for the company.
- 23:13In a leaked internal memo from September 2022, CEO Evan Spiegel
- 23:17told staff he wanted 30% of users on Spotlight every single
- 23:21day in 2023. According to the memo, the CEO
- 23:25argued that encouraging users to engage with Snap Maps and
- 23:28Spotlight Quote helps to make our service is more compelling
- 23:31for our community, harder to copy and more resilient to
- 23:35competition, and increases our monetization opportunity over
- 23:39the longer term. While Spotlight definitely has
- 23:41appeal for creators, there are other financial opportunities
- 23:45that have brought influencers to the platform in recent years,
- 23:49one of them being the Snap Stars program that was launched in
- 23:532022. According to the Snapchat
- 23:55website, Snap Stars, Quote are public figures or creators who
- 23:59bring some of the best and most engaging content to Snapchat.
- 24:02But it isn't just a group, it's also the company's advertising
- 24:06revenue share program. Although details about Snap
- 24:08Stars inner workings remain unclear, it has definitely
- 24:11incentivized top creators like David Dobrik and the Demilios to
- 24:15create content specifically for Snapchat, signalling to the
- 24:18platform's continued appeal even in such a crowded social media
- 24:22landscape. Quote Though a representative
- 24:24for Snap declined to share the revenue split with Snap Stars, a
- 24:28source close to the company says it's a 5050 split.
- 24:31Alexandra Sternlich explains for fortune.
- 24:33Snap creators are paid in crystals whose exchange rate is
- 24:37roughly $1.00 to 10 crystals and can be paid out after a creator
- 24:41has earned over 1000 crystals, or $100.
- 24:45On top of this, many creators find Snapchat appealing because
- 24:48it reduces the opportunity for public scrutiny.
- 24:50Influencers like David Dobrik, Austin Mcbroom, and Shane
- 24:54Dawson, who have faced significant backlash, are among
- 24:58those who have embraced the platform.
- 24:59While the finance incentives are undeniable, Snapchat's lack of a
- 25:03comment section or timeline like feature helps limit public
- 25:07discourse around their posts, making it an enticing option for
- 25:10those under fire who also want to continue posting online.
- 25:14Think of it almost like a Patreon, but without having to
- 25:17ask your audience to pay to support you.
- 25:19David Dobrik's pivot to Snapchat came after his public
- 25:22cancellation in 2021. If you aren't familiar with
- 25:25everything that went down, an expose alleged that David was
- 25:29complicit in his long time friend Dom Zeigliadis sexual
- 25:33assault of a college student. Around the same time, his former
- 25:36collaborator Jeff Whittick began speaking out about a 2020 stunt
- 25:40that left him seriously injured. While initially on good terms,
- 25:44things soured in early 2022 when David claims the stunt was
- 25:48Jeff's idea. A detailed Jeff had reportedly
- 25:51asked David to keep private. David explained that he felt
- 25:55unfairly blamed and also used his podcast to issue an apology.
- 25:59Jeff responded with threats of legal action and later that year
- 26:03filed a $10 million lawsuit against David for, quote,
- 26:06general negligence and intentional tort.
- 26:09Shortly after, David stopped posting to his YouTube channel,
- 26:13which boasted over 18,000,000 subscribers at the time, and he
- 26:16paused his podcast. Speculation arose among former
- 26:19fans that these moves were tied to legal advice surrounding
- 26:23Jeff's lawsuit. At the time of recording, David
- 26:25has not posted on his main channel since March 2022.
- 26:30While he did take a step back from social media, that
- 26:32definitely did not include Snapchat.
- 26:35David has gone on to embrace the platform entirely, accumulating
- 26:396.8 million followers and posting 80 to 100 times a day.
- 26:44As Kaya Yuref notes for The Information, his stories are
- 26:47reminiscent of the Vlog Squad era, often featuring him
- 26:50alongside his friends doing random activities, whether
- 26:53eating food, shopping, or partying.
- 26:55David has told reporters that he enjoys posting on Snapchat
- 26:58because quote stories are like the raw experience of someone's
- 27:01day and it is quote the easiest way of continuing what I was
- 27:05doing on YouTube without carrying a ginormous camera in
- 27:08my hand. While convenience is a valid
- 27:11reason for his shift, Snapchat also offers an environment with
- 27:15limited criticism, something far less common on other platforms.
- 27:19This lack of public pushback creates a healthier experience
- 27:22for creators, but has also inadvertently made Snapchat a
- 27:26haven for those who faced cancellation.
- 27:28Other controversial figures like Austin Mcbroom of the Ace family
- 27:32have found success on Snapchat. Austin currently has 7.7 million
- 27:37followers and frequently post videos of his daily life
- 27:40chatting to the camera. Over the years, Austin has faced
- 27:43serious allegations including accusations of sexual assault,
- 27:47cheating, and failing to pay vendors.
- 27:50In 2023, he stopped posting on YouTube and shifted his focus to
- 27:54Snapchat. Austin has gone viral several
- 27:56times. Not always for the best reasons,
- 27:59as you might expect, But most recently, after his divorce from
- 28:02Catherine Payez, he gained significant attention for his
- 28:05Snapchat stories. While social media users
- 28:08initially believed Catherine was thriving, especially given
- 28:11Austin's history of cheating allegations, Austin's Snapchat
- 28:14posts told a different story. After news of their divorce
- 28:18broke, Austin flooded Snapchat with content, vlogging about
- 28:22random daily activities. His post quickly went viral on
- 28:25TikTok, with users turning his meltdowns and strange
- 28:28conversations into audios and memes.
- 28:30Quote posting over 40 Snapchat stories almost every single day
- 28:34since his divorce, Austin Mcbroom has consistently created
- 28:37absurd scenarios that have vlogified his life.
- 28:40Steven Asarsh writes for Passionfruit.
- 28:42Earlier this year, while there was a lot of online discussion
- 28:45about the craziness of his content, the structure of
- 28:48Snapchat, with its lack of immediate feedback and comment
- 28:51sections, allowed Austin to continue posting without facing
- 28:55direct criticism. Having said all that, it's
- 28:57unclear whether Snapchat intended to become a haven for
- 29:01canceled creators, but this decision has inadvertently set
- 29:04the platform up for continued success.
- 29:07In today's day and age, social media growth hinges on user
- 29:10satisfaction and offering creators financial security.
- 29:14By tapping into the network of canceled creators, Snapchat has
- 29:18a captive market, especially as other platforms are slowly
- 29:21embracing de platforming and demonetizing certain creators.
- 29:25Snap has acknowledged that historically it hasn't been the
- 29:29go to for the creator economy. As Jim Shepherd, director of
- 29:32Global talent Partnerships, put it quote, it's sometimes easy
- 29:35not to think about us when you're thinking about
- 29:37opportunities in the creator economy because the content
- 29:40ecosystem on Snapchat is built on top of a camera first
- 29:44communication tool. We run a bit under the radar,
- 29:47but I think over the last year to two years, we've been quietly
- 29:51building a very meaningful ecosystem of creators to build
- 29:55their businesses on our platform.
- 29:57It's clear Snapchat learned from the mistakes of other social
- 30:00media platforms and has prioritized putting creators
- 30:03first. This strategy has paid off in
- 30:06strides. The app is now more relevant
- 30:08than it's been in years, its user base continues to grow, and
- 30:12it's becoming the primary social media platform for some of the
- 30:16biggest names in the digital space, proving that an outdated
- 30:20messaging app could compete in the creator economy and regain
- 30:25relevance with a new generation of young social media users.
- 30:30Infinite Scroll is a podcast produced, presented and Co
- 30:34written by me, Lauren Meisner for Centennial World.
- 30:36This episode was researched and written by Annabelle Ben David.
- 30:40Editing for this episode is also by me.
- 30:44Thank you guys so much for listening.
- 30:45I love you guys and I will talk to you next week.
- 30:48Bye.