Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Two Magic Words To Make Your Conversations Go Better
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- 1:04How today we are going to talk about an easy way to enhance
- 1:10your communication with your spouse that most people don't
- 1:12do, even though it's so easy. And reminded me today to make a
- 1:17podcast about this because I was talking to my son and I'm very
- 1:22proud because my son is going to the Nationals for a geography
- 1:25tournament, and we're talking about some Middle Eastern
- 1:29country, and he's telling me about the GDP and I said, why is
- 1:32the GDP so high and He says, well and then he starts like
- 1:38obviously talking out of his ass.
- 1:39He's eight years old, he's very smart, but he doesn't know
- 1:41everything. You know, and I'm like, you
- 1:44know, you really didn't know. So instead of trying to make
- 1:48stuff up, we could look it up but like you know, why don't you
- 1:52just say something that is like good?
- 1:54Good question. I said, don't you feel good?
- 1:57If your teacher says to you good question and he said yes I said
- 2:01well say it's a good question mommy.
- 2:03So he says good question mommy. So later that he said it again,
- 2:08who's funny because we're talking about something else and
- 2:11then he remembered, and he said good question.
- 2:14So anyway, saying, good question, or good point are very
- 2:19easy, very easy, insertions into, whatever you usually say
- 2:24to your spouse, that leads to problems.
- 2:27It is, doesn't everybody? Like to be told they have a good
- 2:29point this in and of itself can be transformative in a
- 2:32conversation, you're talking to Buddy, they say something you
- 2:36don't agree with but I mean, nobody is a totally stupid,
- 2:39right? I mean, it's there's a point,
- 2:41you know, I mean there's a point to what they said tonight.
- 2:44You are perspective but it could be a good point.
- 2:47Similarly, if you don't know the answer to something, instead of
- 2:51back pedaling, like, guys do this in particular, like
- 2:54backpedaling and given some other.
- 2:56Let's go macro, 40 thousand foot view.
- 2:59I'll tell you some other shit I know about because basically
- 3:02what men do is they try to seem smart, This is like, like women
- 3:06Bond over who is doing worse and Men Bond over, like who's
- 3:11better, you know, I mean and they tease the ones who were
- 3:14stupid, right? So women aren't like that.
- 3:17So men in particular like to seem smart, this is how they're
- 3:19socialized it, like to seem that they know things, so not to be a
- 3:23dick, they don't do it. But just their automatic is to
- 3:27think of an answer even if they don't know, sometimes when
- 3:30they're talking they do think of an answer.
- 3:32Great, but your wife and your Wife's.
- 3:35Usually, the one that has problems with this Behavior.
- 3:37She knows that you're kind of making shit up on the Fly.
- 3:40And so, she doesn't really respect that.
- 3:42What you would like much more than you being smart.
- 3:45And I write this in my devil's advocate article why not to play
- 3:48Devil's Advocate with your wife, and I could link you to that,
- 3:51but she likes you to be kind and to give her something positive
- 3:57about her. Say something nice about her.
- 3:59So if you're talking to your wife and you totally disagree
- 4:02with her on something, and So let's say you say, you know, I
- 4:07think that we should go to Florida and she says, I don't
- 4:10think that we should go to Florida because it's very hot.
- 4:14It's too hot for a baby. You're thinking babies aren't
- 4:18born in Florida every minute, but instead you might say good
- 4:23point, you know, I think it would be fine.
- 4:26You know, you have a point. I do want to go somewhere warm,
- 4:30so I mean well why don't we think about like what would work
- 4:33for both of us? That goes so much better because
- 4:38your wife feels like you heard her finally and because you said
- 4:42it's a good point instead of saying it's a bad point which is
- 4:45what it does when you argue and if she feels good about herself
- 4:49she's much more willing to play ball on any conversation and
- 4:53also she's much more likely to be happy and affectionate in
- 4:56general. Similarly, good question makes
- 4:59somebody feel good about having ask something instead of you
- 5:03answering it. Like they Stupid or backpedaling
- 5:06in the aforementioned way that I talked about where you just make
- 5:09up, any answer out of your ass. So for example if you're talking
- 5:12to your husband and you know you and it's something like about
- 5:17the kids and let's say so many men feel marginalized in there
- 5:21in the input that they give about the kids like that their
- 5:23wife just does really just deeply does not give a shit what
- 5:26they think and it's going to do whatever she wants.
- 5:28And that is really not a good dynamic in any regard for any
- 5:31topic. And so I use it because it's
- 5:34common So let's say that you're a man, let's say your wife is
- 5:37what you perceive as a helicopter parent and she kind
- 5:41of does everything with the kids, entire purview, whatever
- 5:44you try to do. She basically, tells you is
- 5:45wrong. This is not a an uncommon
- 5:48Dynamic, it's called maternal gatekeeping, but so if you're a
- 5:52wife and your husband hasn't anyway, indicated that he feels
- 5:55that you don't take his input with the kids.
- 5:57He's probably right. Right.
- 5:59So if you want to have a happier marriage when he says something,
- 6:03let's say you Add the schedule down to a science.
- 6:06You could do a dissertation on how to schedule your kids after
- 6:09school activities. And then he said something like,
- 6:12you know, like why doesn't Johnny have an art class?
- 6:18He's really into art. Usually you might turn and say
- 6:21yeah because I don't have a clone of myself that could drive
- 6:25his ass to art class when you want, you don't understand how
- 6:28minutely down to the microsecond.
- 6:31I have scheduled all of this stuff so that's why he can't
- 6:33have an art class maybe he You have a coloring book, right?
- 6:36So instead of saying that you could say good question, you
- 6:40know? I mean he yeah I know he is into
- 6:42art but like the thing is I can't really schedule too much
- 6:46stuff. Do you have any ideas on how we
- 6:48could give him an art class and if your husband feels like you
- 6:52said, good question, and that it is a good question and you
- 6:55actually think that it's a good question because it's a good
- 6:57question. Maybe you notice Johnny's into
- 6:59art and you are so consumed with the other things that you didn't
- 7:04notice. Much that he is.
- 7:06So then your husband's going to be more on board.
- 7:08Maybe he could be like, well maybe we could do this, you
- 7:10know, on the weekend or I would drive him you know.
- 7:14Like I would find something which case you'd be like good
- 7:17find something totally take it over, right?
- 7:20So if you say good point or good question that in and of itself,
- 7:24changes the frame, so many people do this at work and then
- 7:27at home, they stopped on a dime and they don't do it ever again.
- 7:31Once they enter their house, they may do it for their kids.
- 7:34God no. Those people do it too much with
- 7:35their kids, your kid could say, the sky is blue and you're like,
- 7:38oh my God, is going to be a wonderful scientist.
- 7:42It's such a great point. You break out the video camera
- 7:45and you tell him to say it again, so you have it for
- 7:47posterity when he wins a Nobel Prize, but the husband could say
- 7:51something. Like, I wonder why like, you
- 7:55know, this on your paycheck, takes out this much taxes and
- 7:58you, he realizes that you're being underpaid by like five
- 8:02hundred dollars and you be like, yeah, we'll see.
- 8:04You finally looked at my paycheck.
- 8:07It's so different. Right?
- 8:09We very rarely acknowledge the good things in our spouse.
- 8:13But constantly Heap, the praise on our children.
- 8:16We should just like really chill the fuck out with both of those
- 8:20things making a moderate. So stop insulting your spouse so
- 8:24much covertly or overtly and stop.
- 8:27Praising the kid for wiping himself and go somewhere in the
- 8:31middle with both. So that you could recognize some
- 8:34Positive comments that everybody says.
- 8:37And this creates a culture in the home by the way of
- 8:40positivity, if very little kids hear you say good point, they're
- 8:43going to start this a good point.
- 8:45Remember all those other things that they say that you've caught
- 8:47them saying that are the bad things that you say, such as
- 8:50cursing or saying things obnoxiously or like sighing and
- 8:54rolling your eyes, you see your kids do all the stuff you do.
- 8:58At least if you open your eyes to it you see it and it doesn't
- 9:01feel good. It's usually the bad stuff that
- 9:03they start to mimic. So give them some good things, a
- 9:06good point, and don't be afraid to prompt and direct children.
- 9:10If very, very directly and instructively how to say
- 9:15something, and they do it. So, it's like what I've said
- 9:18before, if you come home and you say, oh sweetheart, how was your
- 9:21day to your tween daughter? And she looks at you and then
- 9:25she looks back at her phone, you go over.
- 9:27And you say, say how was your day Mom?
- 9:30I shall do it especially if she knows, you're going to take the
- 9:32phone and eventually she'll Like just doing it because that's how
- 9:36people are when they learn a new trick.
- 9:38And when they're told how to do it, if you have a home where you
- 9:40ask your kids, how they are all the time and they never asked
- 9:43you. They literally don't know how
- 9:45you think, that they know how from watching what you do to
- 9:47them, but you do a lot of shit for them that they don't do
- 9:49back. So they don't even know.
- 9:51Literally they don't even know that children ask their parents
- 9:55how the parents are to, they don't know.
- 9:58So you have to instruct them similarly to how I instructed,
- 10:01Levi to say good question mommy. So now Says good question.
- 10:05And I said, you know, like people like to hear this and
- 10:08then there's some kid in his class that is older than him.
- 10:13That he likes, you know, as a looks up to a little bit and I
- 10:15said, wouldn't you feel good if such-and-such kid?
- 10:19If you were talking, he said, good point Levi.
- 10:22He said yeah, but he never says that I said, yeah, I know, I
- 10:27know but, you know, but wouldn't you feel good?
- 10:29You know, if he did and you could make somebody feel that
- 10:32good by saying good point. Nor good question, right?
- 10:36And so, this is a really good thing, especially if you're in a
- 10:40dynamic. So many people are, especially
- 10:43if you're in the mr. Perfect.
- 10:44And it's crazy wife Dynamic, which I could link you to, in
- 10:48addition to the Devil's. Advocate a lot of mr.
- 10:49Perfect's play Devil's, Advocate.
- 10:51By the way, no shock. If you are in a situation where
- 10:54you're a man and your wife always thinks that you're out,
- 10:57thinking her out talking her out.
- 10:59Arguing her. Oh you think you're so smart
- 11:01blah blah. Right?
- 11:02She she is yours. Meaning for you to acknowledge
- 11:06that she has a good point or a good question.
- 11:08This is going to increase your chances of getting laid by 1
- 11:11million and of just your wife feeling good about herself which
- 11:15that in that indirectly influences, your odds of getting
- 11:18laid and just of having a happy wife, happy wife, happy life.
- 11:22So if usually let's say you're in charge of all the finances
- 11:27and your, it's think about it like this, if you're in charge
- 11:30of the finances, right? You're doing, you're figuring
- 11:32out if you're going to refinance your house.
- 11:34And I know there's women who do the finances.
- 11:36I do the finances, by the way, you guys are not introducing me
- 11:39to a new dynamic in the world. It's just that the majority and
- 11:43I speak to the majority, as should, you know, people who
- 11:46have a majority that they see more people, it's relevant that
- 11:50the man does the finance. So that's going to be my
- 11:53example. You're a captive audience, so
- 11:55you could either click off because you're so offended, or
- 11:58you could just listen. So, if you're a man who does the
- 12:01finances, let's say, you're refinancing your house and your
- 12:04I've comes over and she says, but you know, why can't we just
- 12:08like ask for a lower rate? A lot of guys are gonna like,
- 12:12roll their eyes be like, oh yeah.
- 12:14Well, wouldn't that be nice and maybe blah, blah blah.
- 12:17But if their kid came over, like their eight-year-old was like,
- 12:20hey, why don't we just ask for a lower rate may be like good
- 12:23question Johnny, it's a great question, but here's how all of
- 12:27the financial markets and capitalism work and boy, are you
- 12:31going to go into Finance, one day?
- 12:32You're such a bright kid. Right.
- 12:34But then to your wife, you're gonna like roll your eyes and
- 12:37make it so much less likely that she ever asks, you a question
- 12:41about anything in your purview again and then, you know what?
- 12:44The funny part you're going to complain, I do everything around
- 12:47there, I do all the finances. You don't even know how much
- 12:49money we make, right? But if she asks you're an
- 12:53asshole, this happens so much with budgeting and all sorts of
- 12:57things. The woman has not been used to
- 12:59doing this, or you can flip the gender.
- 13:01Remember, if you're in the inverse situation, they're not
- 13:04To doing it. You want them, you wish you
- 13:07fantasize that they would split the burden with you but the
- 13:10first time they ask what you perceive as a stupid question.
- 13:12Which is anything that doesn't come right out of a Wharton
- 13:15professors mouth. Honestly if you're real with
- 13:17yourself then you say wow that maybe you would know if Bubba
- 13:22what what is that going to get you absolutely nothing.
- 13:25So when your spouse is asks, will you think it's a stupid
- 13:27question act like you would if it was your kid, if it was your
- 13:31kid, you probably think it's a smart question and you know what
- 13:34for Somebody who has no idea about something.
- 13:36They're like a child in that area.
- 13:37So if you want to build on their enthusiasm answer their question
- 13:42nicely, and if you want even bonus points, say it's a good
- 13:45question because any question is a good question.
- 13:47If somebody stepping out of their comfort zone and trying to
- 13:50ask something, your wife probably had to build up some
- 13:52balls to ask you about. Why don't we just ask for a
- 13:55lower rate? Even if you think it's the
- 13:57stupidest question in the world, she has interacted with you for
- 14:01so long. She knows you're going to think
- 14:02it. So apparently she had to build
- 14:04Some nerve to even ask you so reward that by saying it's a
- 14:07good question, you know. And you will perhaps then get a
- 14:12wife. Who's really interested in
- 14:13sharing, the burden of the finances with you if she's
- 14:15incrementally exposed to how they work in a loving and
- 14:18supportive way that you would if your kid asks the same question.
- 14:22Okay, so hopefully this made you think about this different, this
- 14:25is one you could start today. Some of my stuff, you know,
- 14:27planning a date night. That takes a little time.
- 14:30You know, learning 15 ways to help your highly sensitive wife.
- 14:33Want sex, That takes a little time.
- 14:35This one, you could start immediately.
- 14:37You could start it at work, you can start with your kids.
- 14:39Sure. You do it with your kids, but
- 14:42you can definitely start with your spouse.
- 14:43You could even start it over text.
- 14:44The next thing they say you could say, is good point.
- 14:46Good question. Good idea.
- 14:48Good point, good question. Good idea.
- 14:49One of those going to be relevant to most things that
- 14:52somebody says about fact, even the stupidest thing, your wife
- 14:56could be like, can you pick up Frosted Flakes on your way?
- 14:58Home are you be like good idea? We're running out.
- 15:02She'll be so surprised. She'll think somebody stole Your
- 15:04fault. She'll wonder if you're cheating
- 15:06on her. She'll think you're totally
- 15:07different man, but if she figures out that you're just
- 15:10trying to be nicer your life will go a lot easier.
- 15:13Same thing for women. Women can be just as snide as
- 15:16men and as passive aggressive, obviously.
- 15:19So, the next time, your husband says, something that you think
- 15:21indicates a complete lack of knowledge about how the
- 15:24household works. Why don't you answer him and
- 15:28thereby, you teach him out of the household work?
- 15:30And that thing that he's so interested in can even become
- 15:32his specialty. When he, Earns more about it.
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