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Stop Chasing Fame: Build a Business with Educational Content · Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint

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  Hello and welcome to the show. Apologies for the noise coming
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  in through the background because I'm going to audio booth
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  and of course it's a full house. So, you know, people watching
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  TV, you know, computers, you know, that sort of thing.
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  So I expect interruptions every once in a while.
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  Now, today's episode, I'd like us to look at the question.
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  Sorry, let me see, Let me look at my list.
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  OK, so there's a question that I get a lot and my question is,
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  are you a content creator? And the answer that I give is
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  no. And I consider that to be a very
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  confusing question because there are very few people who make a
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  living just by producing content alone.
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  Which is why I get confused when people ask, are you a content
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  creator? Because most of us who create
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  content actually create content in the service of selling
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  something else or marketing something else, which is the
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  reason why I answered the question are you a content
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  creator? And I just answer people no,
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  because, well, yes, I'm creating content.
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  It just that doesn't mean automatically I'm a content
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  creator. Now some of you are wondering,
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  you know, why the semantics and it will get into that.
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  But for those of you who are listening to the show for the
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  first time, if you'd love to connect with me for a strategy
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  session, a business audit, or you want me to answer some
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  business questions that you have, then connect with me over
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  on WhatsApp. The phone number is 080
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  64662140. The country code is +234.
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  If you are not Nigerian then you can also connect with me on
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  LinkedIn the name to look for establishing my IED.
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  I also have a YouTube channel by the same name.
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  So I was telling you guys about how whenever people ask me a
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  content creator because they see all the content I create, I
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  answer no. The reason, like I said was
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  because I don't make a living just by creating content alone.
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  I'm creating content that is in the service of selling or
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  marketing something else that I do.
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  So back in my wedding photography days, I was creating
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  content that was in the service of selling my photography and
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  video services. Now that I'm full time into
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  business consulting, I'm creating content that is selling
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  my business consultancy services.
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  And back in the days when my brother and I were in
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  commodities trading that's exporting charcoal and sesame
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  seed and things like that, The little content that we did put
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  up on YouTube actually was in the service of trying to promote
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  us selling charcoal, selling sesame, and you know, stuff like
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  that. But yes, I do know that there
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  are some people who produce content and make a living off
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  that content alone. So for instance, there's Pastor
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  Jerry is a now this one I'm giving you guys, I haven't
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  confirmed. I've just heard it as per gist.
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  So I'm just telling you guys, if it turns out to be correct, then
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  he's one of those people who produces content and he makes a
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  living because the content is monetized in itself because of
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  the views that they receive, because he puts up these praise
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  and worship stuff and prayer sessions and apparently millions
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  of Nigerians, TuneIn and on YouTube and watch it every
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  single day. And then of course, he's getting
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  a percentage of the, excuse me, he's getting a percentage of the
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  dollars that they're receiving. And of course, with the exchange
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  rate. So excuse me, forgive me, the
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  weather here in Abuja, the Hamilton, I can't wait for the
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  rainy season. So, so with the number of views
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  that he's getting and you know, the small, small dollars and
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  cents that they're receiving, by the time he takes his percentage
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  and you convert it into naira, you can see how, you know,
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  somebody, especially Nigerians, how we can make a living off of
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  these things. Because in American terms, you
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  know, let's say you have a successful YouTube channel.
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  And then like I hear other people complain like, what's
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  this guy's name? He's in the real estate space.
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  I can't remember his name. Young guy, Christian guy, former
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  baseball player. I think on his YouTube he said
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  he makes just like $40,000 US. And in his in his own opinion,
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  you know, $40,000 US is, is not, is not much money.
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  But whenever it is, you're listening to this podcast, just
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  take your calculator or go and check on the website and do
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  $40,000. Then multiply that.
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  Use the Nigerian exchange rate. Even if you pay half of it in
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  taxes, you can see that or more is not is not bad.
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  So yes, there are people like Pastor Jerry.
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  Is he? I heard, I have not confirmed
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  and he's not my guy, so I don't know him, but this is the gist
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  that I've been hearing on the streets that he is making a
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  killing off of the content that he's producing.
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  So someone like Jerry Easy. OK, yeah, content creator, even
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  though I thought of him more as a pastor and a youth, youth,
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  youth and worship leader, you know, rather than the content
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  creator. But I hear right now that these
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  days he's a content creator, so he's not producing content so
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  that more people will go to his church and so that they can
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  increase revenue. So maybe that was the game in
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  the beginning, but right now he's making a living off the
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  content. Then.
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  Now let me see who else. OK, I can't remember.
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  I just keep my mind. So apart from Pastor Jerry,
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  Izzy, if I'm correct, then other people like us, regular people
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  like us who are creating content that we're going to use to sell
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  something else. And that's the reason why I
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  don't consider myself a content creator, even though all of us
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  share that content. Really create.
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  Now some of you are going to ask me, what about influencers?
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  OK, yes, I agree. That's also a different category
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  because we have people like Kim Kardashian and then we have
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  people like Bob Risky or is it Bob or Risky?
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  I'm never sure what his name is. So we have people like Kim
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  Kardashian and Bob Risky people. These people exist.
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  And what they do is they create lifestyle content, you know,
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  lifestyle in quote. So with the lifestyle content,
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  it allows them to achieve fame and then notoriety.
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  And then it now leads to endorsement deals for brands or
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  businesses who are trying to hack popular attention in the
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  media and over on the Internet. So yeah, those sorts of things
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  exist. Although people call them
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  influencers, people don't call them content creators.
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  But you can see that, you know, there are some slight
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  differences. So if you ask me what do I do or
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  what am I closer to, I would say I'm more like Mr. Macaroni.
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  For those of you who are familiar with his videos, or
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  rather if you're familiar with his videos, you really know who
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  he is. Now, if you're not familiar, Mr.
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  Macaroni, he's an actor and he's a comedian, but he puts out
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  these kids where he's like a sugar daddy and he's trying to,
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  you know, chase one or two runs. The runs don't always click
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  well. And you know, stuff like that
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  shall but, you know, funny stuff.
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  But The thing is, he's a comedian and he's an actor and
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  he has used these skits to he has leveraged that to appear in
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  Netflix movies and he now headlines in comedy festivals
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  and comedy shows. So I would say I'm closer to Mr.
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  Macaroni because the content I'm producing is not the main thing.
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  Gong gong. It's not like it's not the, it's
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  not the, it's not the bread and butter.
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  It is the things, it is the opportunities that the content
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  will open up for me. That is the main thing.
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  So I'll say I'm closer to Mr. Macaroni, although I'll say I'm
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  better looking. But yeah, he has more money than
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  me, you know, for now. So I'm similar to him because I
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  make content around sales, sometimes marketing, and it
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  helps me to build my credibility as a speaker and as a trainer.
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  And I use that to leverage for paid speaking, paid coaching and
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  paid consulting gigs. So that's the reason why I
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  answered the question. Nope, I'm not a content creator
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  because to be honest, I'm not like any of these folks.
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  I'm not like Bob Risky. I'm not like Kim Kardashian.
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  I'm not like Pastor Jerry is a if you say I must speak inside,
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  I'll say I'm closer to Mr. Macaroni because Macaroni is
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  producing content. But Mr. well, Mr. Macaroni is, I
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  suspect that he even wants to appear in international movies
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  at some point. That's the way I read the
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  gesture. I think that's where he's
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  heading, you know, like to be in some Oscar nominated movies and
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  things like that. So if I must pick a stand, I'll
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  say I'm closer to Mr. Macaroni. Now leads to a bigger question.
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  Should you be a content creator? That is you right now listening
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  to this podcast. You be a content creator.
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  With the way we have defined content creator, honestly, I
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  would not advise you to be a content creator because the odds
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  of success are surprisingly low, even though it appears that
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  those people live a much more glamorous life.
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  Kim Kardashian and her sisters and her family, like obviously
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  they're paid like mad paid. Bob Risky is mad paid and he's
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  living, he's living a life. But The thing is that game is
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  hard to try and out Kardashian, the Kardashians is is hard to
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  try and out Risky. Bob Risky is I mean, it's hard,
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  you know, so Bob risky is out there and you know, rumours and
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  then gist and then the cross dressing and then the this and
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  the that. And if you want to do to say
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  you're going to be mad and Bob risky is it's hard.
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  I'm just being real with you. Not everybody has that level of
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  what was it called? Not everybody has that level of,
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  you know, whatever it is, you know, to make it happen.
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  In fact, in this part of the world, if you if somebody
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  releases your sex tape, you know, you go and hide and pray
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  that you know the ground should swallow you, you know, so it's
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  not for everybody really. It's hard to build Kardashian
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  cloud and it's hard to build a Bob risky reputation.
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  So in my own opinion, should you be a content creator listening
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  to this thing, I'll say don't do it.
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  I'll break it looks glamorous, but the odds of success are
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  very, very, very low. But yes, for the people who hit,
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  hit it big, they hit very, very well, but the odds are low.
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  So in my own opinion, I think it is better to create content
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  around a skill set or around an interest that you have then now
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  try and monetize that that whole thing.
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  That is what I recommend because it is easier to make a living or
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  to win doing that sort of thing. If I say I want to compete with
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  Bob Riskie, it's going to be hard, you know, because First
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  off, I'm going to have to bleach.
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  I'll have to lose my potbelly. What else?
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  You know, all the other things that he's trying to do.
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  I need to look for some scandalous angle and then mean
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  like that's plenty of work. But you can see that with me
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  coming up here to create educational content, you know,
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  2-3 times a week, you know, is doable.
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  I've been doing this for close to five years and it's looks
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  like it's the kind of thing I can do for another 20.
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  And it doesn't depend on me being scandalous or me going
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  viral or, you know, stuff like that.
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  So I really think this is a much more easier lifestyle and it's
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  something that's more achievable for everybody else.
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  So create content around the skill set that you have or
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  around an interest that you have.
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  Eventually we'll try and figure out a way to monetize that.
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  Then I also think that creating educational content is the
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  easiest path. Whenever I'm speaking, I tell
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  people about this sort of thing, especially ladies.
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  So I'm not picking on you ladies because you know, there's been a
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  couple of sessions, you know, where I'm addressing specific
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  female audiences. Like last year when I did the
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  woman in marketing thing with Avon Hobb.
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  And then I think the year before when I was talking to the Abuja
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  business women's networking thing, I can't remember what it
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  is that was called. And then these kind of questions
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  always come up because they're worried about going viral and
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  producing entertaining content and things like that.
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  So please, my dear lovely sisters, please, my sisters, my
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  mommies, my aunties, I'm begging you guys.
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  Yes, it'll be nice to go viral and to do and to dance and to
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  point and to twerk and to everything and to do whatever it
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  is that is raining. But I honestly think creating
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  educational content is the easiest path.
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  Because it didn't. It does not require much talent
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  and it does not require much XYZ.
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  Like for the pointing and the dancing and the twerking thing.
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  Obviously, if you're not yellow, the thing won't fly.
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  If you don't have hips, the thing won't fly.
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  If you don't have boobs, the thing won't fly.
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  If you don't. I mean, you, you see where I'm
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  heading? But if it's going to be
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  educational content, it doesn't matter if you're tall or short,
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  yellow or black, if I watch you look like and all the extra
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  stuff is even by the way. So you guys listen to me right
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  now. You guys don't care whether I'm
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  handsome or I'm ugly. If you see me and I'm handsome,
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  I'm like, oh, OK, it's a plus. If you see me and I'm ugly, you
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  say try this guy. No, try, try.
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  But at least you still continue to to flow with me because what
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  I'm saying is making sense. We'll still keep vibing.
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  And it's the same thing like Abuja, what's her name?
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  Niger brand, Niger Brand, what's her name?
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  Niger Brand Sheikh. I can't remember her name Shah.
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  So like Niger brand Sheikh, if you like them small and slim,
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  then she's not your type. But The thing is, she's
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  producing educational business content.
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  So regardless of how she looks, you will still have to be
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  flirting with her because she's dropping business gems, she's
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  dropping Nuggets that will move your business, move your
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  business forward. So me personally, or that's what
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  I advise, this educational content thing is the easiest
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  path. You don't have to be funny.
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  You don't have to be fine. You don't have to be fit.
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  You don't have to be trendy. You don't have to court
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  controversy. You don't have to.
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  What's that word? You don't have to go viral.
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  You don't have to whatever, whatever, whatever.
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  You can just be doing your educational content steady,
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  generally just be doing your thing, continue to promote,
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  continue to iterate, continue to refine, eventually find your
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  audiences, start trying to build communities around it.
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  You can just be doing this in small, small, small, small,
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  small. Just take it in your style and
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  just be moving. So for me, educational content,
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  or I'll say that as the one that you should do.
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  So with my podcast, I set out to educate people primarily if any
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  of you are entertained because of things that I see that
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  entertainment is just a byproduct.
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  It was not me deciding that look to them when they make you guys
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  laugh like Mr. Macaron. It just happened to be a by
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  product that you guys are feeling me or you're feeling my
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  humor. But primarily I came here to
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  entertain. Sorry, not to entertain, to
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  educate. If I want to do the Mr. Macaroni
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  thing, I mean, think about it. Think about the number of videos
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  that the guy drops in a year and every single video he has to
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  make you guys laugh. Think about how hard that thing
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  must be, the level of talent that is required, the level of
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  scripting that is required. Then of course he has to pay
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  actresses to show up in the video.
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  So casting is also a problem. You need to make sure that you
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  cast the right people, the people who have the right
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  talent. You know that and understand
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  your vision, who can flow with you.
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  Think about how I had that thing.
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  That thing must be. So if he makes 100 videos every
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  year in 100 video, he in 100 videos, he has to make all of
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  you laugh or else he's off point.
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  But for me, I can show up quietly everyday, just pick up
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  my phone, make some educational content.
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  So long as I know that I'm spitting truth and I'm spitting
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  value, I'm fine. And it's OK if some things are.
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  Maybe it's kind of like a flop. It's not a problem.
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  You guys won't punish me. You say, OK, that episode was
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  half mark, but you still be here for people like Mr. Macron.
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  If he drops 100 videos in a year, he can't afford to have
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  pass mark. You know, more than, I don't
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  know, 20 or 30% of the time For me, if I have 30 or 40% pass
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  mark on my videos, you know, it's OK.
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  You guys will still be back so long as you think I'm dropping
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  value. So the thing that Mister Macroni
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  does very hard. The thing that Mister Beast does
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  very hard. Kim Kardashian, very hard.
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  Bob Risky, very hard. Not everybody has the skill set
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  of the talents to pull those sorts of things off.
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  Sorry, One moment. Sorry about that.
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  I had to attend to one of the kids, Where was I?
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  So basically the reason why I say educational content is a way
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  forward is because anybody can do what I do to take your phone,
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  explain what you do, teach people how to do it, show them
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  how it can benefit their personal life or to benefit
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  their business life. Sorry, one moment.
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  OK, now sorry about that. This time it was my wife who
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  walked in because she needed bathroom slippers.
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  Luckily I was able to hit pause just on time before she came in.
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  So if not, you guys would have heard what my wife sounds like.
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  But only most of the times I want hanging out, our
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  conversation is inappropriate. So it's a good thing that I
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  pause the microphone anyway. So why was I blah, blah, blah.
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  OK, yeah. So basically what I'm trying to
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  say is educational content. That's the way to go.
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  Anybody can do what I do. Just pull out your phone,
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  explain what you do. Teach people.
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  This is how it will benefit your business.
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  This is how it will benefit your life.
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  So I recommend, yes, people do what I do.
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  Don't be a content creator. So summary, am IA content
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  creator. The answer is no.
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  I don't like to think of myself as one, but should we all be
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  creating content as business people?
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  This is a separate question. If you're a business person,
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  should you be creating content on Instagram, on TikTok, on
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  LinkedIn, on YouTube, on your website, on your whatever?
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  My answer is a very, very big yes.
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  YES. Capital yes, because it is the
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  easiest and the cheapest way that people are going to be able
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  to know. This is who we are.
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  This is what we can do. These are the services and the
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  products that we have that we're putting out in the market and
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  that people can buy. And this is how our product or
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  services can help them. So should we all be creating
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  content? My answer, capital YES.
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  And just in case I haven't emphasized enough, let me
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  emphasize it again. What kind of content should we
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  be creating as business people? In my own opinion, we should be
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  creating educational content because it requires less charm
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  and it requires less talent. Anybody can do it.
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  House, IBO, Yoruba, tall, fat, slim, short.
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  You can be black like me or yellow like Token Mark.
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  You know nobody cares. Educational content, easy to do.
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  Another reason why we should all be doing educational content is
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  because when you're doing entertaining content, it is
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  trendy and it doesn't age well. Like the Abuja business, the
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  Abuja woman networking thing from two years ago, the thing
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  that was raining there was pointing and twerking.
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  Now pointing and twerking is it raining?
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  Pointing and twerking has passed.
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  So the videos that you did back then of the pointing and the
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  twerking that made you seem go viral or something like that.
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  That video now is consigned to that part of history.
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  You cannot do anything again for you tomorrow but me that I'm
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  trying to do educational content.
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  Educational content is Evergreen.
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  It lasts forever. It lasts for always.
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  My oldest episodes from five years ago are the ones that are
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  the most popular. Those of you who are doing
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  entertainment stuff, the videos, the content, the podcast, the
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  blogs that you guys put out five years ago, you can't use it for
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  nothing. But me, I can take a podcast
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  episode that I created five years ago and I can share it
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  again. In fact, if you follow me on
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  LinkedIn, you will see that lots of the times that's what I'm
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  doing. I'm taking past episodes and I'm
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  sharing them every day. Somebody will listen and say,
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  oh, I agree. I don't agree.
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  I like this. I don't like this in the
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  comment. We can start debating it.
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  You can see that I'm gaining engagement from stuff that I
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  produced 345 years ago. If you're doing the entertaining
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  content thing, you know, once you've done the pointing at the
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  twerking or whatever was raining, like OK, what challenge
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  again? Ice water challenge.
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  This challenge, that challenge. Once you do the challenge, once
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  challenge has finished and another trend comes, it's gone.
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  It's gone. You can't use it for anything
• 20:59
  again. But for me, I have Evergreen
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  content. Evergreen just means it will
• 21:03
  always work. I can always use it.
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  In fact, you know, we're not in control of our lives.
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  So, you know, we don't know what happens, but, you know, God
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  granting us good life and a long life.
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  I won't be surprised if somebody is listening to this podcast
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  now. But 30 years have passed since
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  the day that I recorded this thing.
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  So it is 2025 + 30. Should be 55.
• 21:29
  Yeah. So it's possible that there's
• 21:31
  somebody listening to this episode right now in the year
• 21:33
  2050. Twenty.
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  I'll be 2055 and the thing will still make sense because I set
• 21:40
  out to make educational content. So it's Evergreen.
• 21:44
  So that is my recommendation. No, I'm not a content creator.
• 21:49
  You ma listening to this podcast, please do not become a
• 21:52
  content creator, but as a business person, yes, produce
• 21:55
  content. The kind of content you should
• 21:57
  produce should be educational content because it's the easiest
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  and it's Evergreen. It doesn't require too much to
• 22:04
  do. But anyway, that's my own
• 22:06
  opinion. If you think you can cause your
• 22:08
  business to blow or to whatever I'm doing, entertaining, trendy
• 22:13
  lifestyle, whatever content, yeah, sure, how about it?
• 22:17
  And if it works, please let me know so that I can even
• 22:20
  interview you and come and share the secret over here on the
• 22:24
  podcast so that other people who don't like all these things that
• 22:27
  I say about educational content, other people can get to know
• 22:31
  another way that you can use to use content to help build your
• 22:36
  business. So that's it pretty much for
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  today. Thank you very much for your
• 22:40
  time and attention. If you'd love to connect for
• 22:42
  strategy session, the business audit, they want me to answer
• 22:45
  some questions that you have, connect with me on WhatsApp.
• 22:49
  The phone number is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
• 22:55
  Also connect with me on LinkedIn, the name to look for
• 22:58
  establishing my IED. I have a YouTube channel with
• 23:01
  the same name. I'll catch you guys at the next
• 23:03
  episode.