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Bad Knees? No Problem. Ironman Dad Phil Thompson on Grit, God, and Endurance · Faithful Fitness With Coach Alex VanHouten

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Faithful Fitness Podcast for my Dad. Coach
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Speaker 1: Alex Van Houghton helps you get stronger and mind, body,
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Speaker 1: and spirit. He believes that your body is a temple,
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Speaker 1: so taking good care of it is an actual worship.
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Speaker 2: I should know.
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Speaker 1: I live with him every week. He brings truth from
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Speaker 1: the Bible, tool from science, and stories that will set
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Speaker 1: your heart on fire. May God bless you to become
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Speaker 1: everything He made you to be, just one percent better
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Speaker 1: every single day.
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Speaker 3: What's up, guys, This is coach Alex Fan Houghton on
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Speaker 3: the Faithful Fitness Podcast. Thank you so much for joining
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Speaker 3: me today and I'm so excited about the conversation I
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Speaker 3: get to have today with mister Phil Thompson.
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Speaker 4: Phil, how you doing, brother?
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Speaker 2: Doing good? Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 3: With all of the things you have going on in life,
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Speaker 3: it means a lot that we get to sit down
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Speaker 3: for this hour as dads and as athletes and talk
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Speaker 3: about faith and fitness. So I want to introduce you
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Speaker 3: to my audience and then I want to have a
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Speaker 3: great conversation today with you, and so I'm going to
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Speaker 3: read what you wrote for me for your bio, which
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Speaker 3: I appreciate. By the way, this is probably one of
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Speaker 3: the most humble bios I've gotten to read on faithful fitness.
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Speaker 3: So here we go, and Phil says, I'm just a
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Speaker 3: dad that lives a life trying to inspire my kids
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Speaker 3: to challenge themselves and to live a healthy lifestyle.
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Speaker 2: Amen.
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Speaker 3: I grew up in a small town in southwest Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 3: went to optometry school in Puerto Rico, where I met
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Speaker 3: my wife. After graduation, we moved back to her hometown
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Speaker 3: in Kansas, just out of site of Kansas City. I
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Speaker 3: love the outdoors, fishing, hunting, and endurance sports. I started
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Speaker 3: traflon in my twenties after growing up mainly playing hockey
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Speaker 3: until I had to have three knee surgeries throughout my
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Speaker 3: high school years. Now traflon in endurance sports has become
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Speaker 3: a huge passion and I love challenging myself with them.
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Speaker 3: So cool, man, so cool. I got to ask, though,
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Speaker 3: I got to ask, how does a hockey player end
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Speaker 3: up in Kansas. It's not like a Kansas isn't really
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Speaker 3: big on hockey, are they.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 5: It's a very few between with ice drinks around here.
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Speaker 5: But that's where my wife grew up. That's where he
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Speaker 5: wanted to live, and that's what brought me back to Kansas.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 3: I'm in Conway, Arkansas because my wife is a Conway native,
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Speaker 3: and so after we got married and started having kiddos,
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Speaker 3: she's like, please bring me back home.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you got it, Hey, yeah, gotta do what
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Speaker 2: they want.
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Speaker 4: I totally get it. Now, where did you play hockey?
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Speaker 5: I grew up in southwest Pennsylvania, so a little town
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Speaker 5: called Smithfield, and I actually played hockey out of Morgantown.
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Speaker 2: West Virginia. Okay, okay, I got you.
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Speaker 5: I got traveled all through Pennsylvania and the Pittsburgh We
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Speaker 5: played all those teams growing up. So that was I
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Speaker 5: think I started when I was six or seven years old.
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Speaker 5: And then I started having knee surgeries in high school,
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Speaker 5: so that kind of brought that to an end. And
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Speaker 5: then I started playing a little bit more in college
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Speaker 5: after all the rehab and everything.
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Speaker 3: Man, So we're gonna be talking about traf one and
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Speaker 3: for anybody watching or listening who doesn't know what that
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Speaker 3: means is that is swimming, biking, and running. So traflon
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Speaker 3: requires knees, Like, yes, so what what knee surgeries, did
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Speaker 3: you have to rehabilitate from?
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Speaker 5: So I tore my medial ptella ephemeral ligament in bothies,
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Speaker 5: so it's basically like at the same time. Uh So,
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Speaker 5: growing up, my kneecap would pop out of place, so
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Speaker 5: it would go like laterally to the outside of my knee,
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Speaker 5: but it always came back, so I never like got stuck.
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Speaker 5: They said it was like part hereditary. And then just
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Speaker 5: once it did it a couple of times. That ligament
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Speaker 5: was so loose that it almost seemed like every hockey
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Speaker 5: game I played, my kneecap would go out, but I
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Speaker 5: was so used to it that I'd go sit on
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Speaker 5: bench for a couple minutes and come right back to playing.
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Speaker 5: But finally in uh, I think I had them in ninth, tenth,
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Speaker 5: and eleventh grade, if I'm correct. But if I had
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Speaker 5: my left one done, but since I was still growing,
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Speaker 5: they couldn't fully repair it. They just tightened it up
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Speaker 5: for the most part, and then I had my right
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Speaker 5: one done, but then I had to go back and
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Speaker 5: have my left one done because the first surgery didn't
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Speaker 5: exactly work right.
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Speaker 3: So those serve you well now because you got nice
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Speaker 3: tight ligaments.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're probably not one hundred percent, but they
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Speaker 5: do do the job that they need to.
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Speaker 4: Well a bit a bit. I'm a bit of a
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Speaker 4: kinesiology r.
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Speaker 3: And I know you went to school for optometry, so
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Speaker 3: so I imagine you had to study anatomy and stuff.
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Speaker 4: But but for our listeners.
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Speaker 3: What that means is is, once upon a time, Phil
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Speaker 3: did a lot of lateral movements in his sports. But
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Speaker 3: but trafon is is all sagial.
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Speaker 4: You go that way, you don't go laterally.
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Speaker 3: If you do it, something's gone wrong, right, Yeah, but
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Speaker 3: you go sagile. Do you do you have any more
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Speaker 3: knee issues nowadays?
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Speaker 2: Not really.
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Speaker 5: Sometimes I feel like they're probably more sore from everything
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Speaker 5: I went through, but not I haven't had any like
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Speaker 5: scares or anything with my kneecap wanting to pop out
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Speaker 5: of place. Because growing up, there'd be times I would
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Speaker 5: do something I'd like, ooh, like that gets money, just
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Speaker 5: feeling like it's going to go, and then a lot
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Speaker 5: of times it would pop out of place.
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Speaker 3: But well, during a traflon, not so much. But I
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Speaker 3: guess you're a dad with three boys and a girl. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and you I love your Instagram. I if anybody watching listening.
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Speaker 3: If you're on Instagram, go follow healthy eyes three six
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Speaker 3: five at healthy Eyes three six That's that's correct, right,
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Speaker 3: that's your handle. Okay, go follow Phil at healthy eyes
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Speaker 3: three six five because all of his stuff he shows
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Speaker 3: a lot of traflon training.
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Speaker 4: He does a lot of very practical stuff. But but you.
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Speaker 3: Also you're you're very adamant that a huge reason that
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Speaker 3: you train is to show up well for your kids.
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Speaker 3: And and I have two boys. I don't have three.
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Speaker 3: I have two boys, and those suckers beat on me
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Speaker 3: all the time, like we are constantly wrestling, throwing, slapping, fighting.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's nerf guns involved, there's there's lightsabers, there's
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Speaker 3: all the stuff.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you I'm sure you know.
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Speaker 3: But uh, but you also do a lot of weight training,
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Speaker 3: which in my line of work is like you have
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Speaker 3: to do that. You have to do that, not just
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Speaker 3: for posteral stuff in trafon, but but since none of
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Speaker 3: your traflon training is laterally loaded, if you're going to
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Speaker 3: live life as an active dad, you've got you gotta
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Speaker 3: do that.
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Speaker 4: So so has has.
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Speaker 3: Being an athlete in a professional sense and raising three boys,
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Speaker 3: Like how does that cross paths? Because I feel like
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Speaker 3: I'd be like on the eve of the you know,
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Speaker 3: big Texas iron Man, I'd be like, all right, guys,
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Speaker 3: nobody jump on Dad's head today, Like back off please.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely uh tough the balance.
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Speaker 5: But I think going into all the traf on stuff,
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Speaker 5: I knew, I knew what I was getting into, and
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Speaker 5: I didn't want that part to take away from being
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Speaker 5: a dad. So trying to still be at all their stuff,
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Speaker 5: not saying, hey, I have to go ride my bike
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Speaker 5: so you guys have to sit here and do nothing
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Speaker 5: like staying present with them and not not giving into
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Speaker 5: my own self and putting them on the side. But yeah,
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Speaker 5: we definitely do all the wrestling, playing in the yard
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Speaker 5: and all of that. And I think with the strength training,
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Speaker 5: we have a garage gym so they get to come
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Speaker 5: out and see me do that all the time, and
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Speaker 5: that puts just that little mindset into them that hey,
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Speaker 5: we need to kind of take care of ourselves too,
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Speaker 5: And you know, they'll be out there and we have
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Speaker 5: a little uh play gym set for them and they'll
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Speaker 5: be playing with me, and but then just getting them
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Speaker 5: active and being physical out in the yard. And yeah,
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Speaker 5: we do like I said, the wrestling and everything inside
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Speaker 5: every night, so right never ends to get ganged up
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Speaker 5: on when it's three to one, and are the youngest
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Speaker 5: one who's you'll actually do almost four has really started
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Speaker 5: to join in and take take us on.
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Speaker 2: So it's fun.
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Speaker 4: How old is your oldest?
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Speaker 2: He is seven?
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Speaker 4: Okay, and so you've got seven, what's what's the next one?
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Speaker 2: In five? Three?
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Speaker 5: And then the girl is almost eleven months okay?
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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, very cool.
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Speaker 3: So so I picture this in my house, My nine
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Speaker 3: year old he's getting really smart, and so he lets
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Speaker 3: my six year old bum rush me and then he
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Speaker 3: suckers me like he tries to find.
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Speaker 4: The opening like, oh I got him.
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Speaker 3: And and it's it's almost aware. I'm having to put
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Speaker 3: them in rounds because I will inevitably be injured by
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Speaker 3: this battle two on one.
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Speaker 4: There's no more zone defense. You know, they're getting too
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Speaker 4: smart for that.
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Speaker 3: Are you entering that too, or are you still taking
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Speaker 3: them all on at the same time?
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Speaker 5: Right now, it's still taking him on the oldest kind
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Speaker 5: of stays off to the side. He's kind of like
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Speaker 5: sounds like your oldest, like my middle boy will attack
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Speaker 5: me and just does most of it and then he'll
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Speaker 5: just kind of The older one will stay on the
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Speaker 5: side and you know, get his hits in when he can.
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Speaker 5: And the youngest, now, yeah, he just comes and jumps
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Speaker 5: on and gets rolled around.
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Speaker 4: It's like san Zu's Art of War.
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Speaker 3: Right as they get older, like, okay, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: send the infantry.
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Speaker 4: Then the cavalry will come from.
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Speaker 5: The side, and they do a lot more planning than
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Speaker 5: just running in and jumping on.
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Speaker 4: That's right, That's awesome.
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Speaker 3: So I want to talk about how you got into
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Speaker 3: traflon because because hockey, in my mind, and trafon are
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Speaker 3: not the least bit related.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 3: I was a hockey player, I had to rehab my knee,
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Speaker 3: and then I got into Traflon's like, that doesn't make
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Speaker 3: any sense to me.
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Speaker 4: So I need you to walk me through the process.
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Speaker 3: Because I love to run, I don't mind I don't
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Speaker 3: mind cycling.
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Speaker 4: I hate swimming, but I'll do it.
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Speaker 3: But the idea of putting all three of those things
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Speaker 3: together is difficult for me to wrap my head around. However,
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Speaker 3: as a coach over the last two decades, I have
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Speaker 3: helped a lot of people execute a trafon because that's
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Speaker 3: either a bucketlest item they have or something they wanted
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Speaker 3: to get into or something like that. And so so personally,
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Speaker 3: outside of coaching my clients, I haven't I haven't got
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Speaker 3: by the bug.
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Speaker 4: I don't understand the appeal.
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Speaker 3: So I would love to hear kind of your story
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Speaker 3: how you got into trafon and what made that a
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Speaker 3: passion for you.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, went through the knee surgeries and
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Speaker 5: the one benefit that had was that actually got me
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Speaker 5: into a gym for all the rehab stuff. So basically
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Speaker 5: started in ninth grade, started doing more like strength training,
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Speaker 5: which I don't think I really.
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Speaker 2: Would have done too much of throughout high.
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Speaker 5: School necessarily, but it got me in that area and
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Speaker 5: I just kind of I was at the physical therapy
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Speaker 5: place every week putting in all that work. So that
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Speaker 5: was my introduction to strength training. But then went to college,
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Speaker 5: and in college I did more running and strength training.
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Speaker 5: But I've always liked running. I've never been a great runner,
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Speaker 5: but something I've always liked to do. And then eventually
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Speaker 5: I had a friend that was like, Hey, I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: do a triathlon and I at the time, this would
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Speaker 5: have been twenty ten, so two thousand and nine or
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Speaker 5: twenty ten. Okay, I had really had no idea what
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Speaker 5: a triathlon was. I had to look it up and
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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that kind of sounds cool. So
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Speaker 5: I actually went and got a bike and started training
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Speaker 5: a little bit, and then I think I did my.
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Speaker 2: First one in twenty ten or twenty eleven.
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Speaker 5: It was just a little spread triathlon, and that's how
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Speaker 5: I started out in the sport, and it was just
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Speaker 5: kind of all downhill or uphill from there.
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Speaker 3: Was it love att first event? Like you did the event,
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Speaker 3: We're like this is awesome?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was this.
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Speaker 5: Swimming is always my weakest and has always been my weakest.
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Speaker 5: So I got through the swim, and then the biking
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Speaker 5: I enjoyed, and then just trying to run. It was
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Speaker 5: definitely a very eye opening experience because I think you think, like, oh,
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Speaker 5: I just got to run a five case run of
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Speaker 5: biking and swimming, but yeah, I was like cramping up
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Speaker 5: and everything. It was a very opening experience and just
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Speaker 5: a good challenge. So is yeah, I want to keep
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Speaker 5: challenging myself, and so yeah, just started doing more and more.
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Speaker 5: But it was always sprint and Olympic distance stuff just
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Speaker 5: around basically all around, like Western Pennsylvania. And then when
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Speaker 5: I went to optometry school in Puerto Rico, that's when
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Speaker 5: I probably did more races down there because they have
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Speaker 5: a little Puerto Rico Trathlon series and that was all
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Speaker 5: Olympic distance racing, but super fun and just kind of
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Speaker 5: racing all the same people around the island all the
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Speaker 5: time was a lot of fun. And then I did
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Speaker 5: my first half iron Man in two thousand and fourteen,
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Speaker 5: I believe, and that was the Puerto Rico seventy point three,
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Speaker 5: So that.
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Speaker 3: Was only four years after your your sprint trathl on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah you got to the half iron Man.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I did that.
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Speaker 5: And I always knew I wanted to do like a
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Speaker 5: half iron Man, but I never knew like where would
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Speaker 5: go from there. But did that one, and then I
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Speaker 5: feel like the longer stuff like that addiction really started.
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Speaker 2: Learning to really push myself. But then also, you do
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Speaker 2: all this work.
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Speaker 5: It's kind of nice to have an event that lasts
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Speaker 5: five six hours versus doing all this work and all
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Speaker 5: of a sudden it's over in an hour. So yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 5: I think that knowing the work I needed to put
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Speaker 5: in to get through those races is kind of what
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Speaker 5: I get addicted to. Okay, almost more than just the
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Speaker 5: race itself. I always say, like that race is the
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Speaker 5: celebration of all the work you did prior.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, So.
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Speaker 5: Then I did that half iron Man, and I raced
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Speaker 5: then and this came back to Kansas and raced a
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Speaker 5: bunch leading up until we had our first son in
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Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. Okay, and then I did one more half
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Speaker 5: iron Man after he was born, and then I took.
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Speaker 2: Four years off.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like four years off until I was
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Speaker 5: like I always stayed in shape.
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Speaker 2: I ran, I rode my bike, but never didn't really.
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Speaker 4: Race, didn't like train for an event.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
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Speaker 5: Just I just kind of maintained everything in a way.
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Speaker 5: And then I was like, I'm gonna sign up for
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Speaker 5: a local sprint trathlon here and I did that, and
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Speaker 5: then I was talking to my wife and she was,
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Speaker 5: you know, always has supported me, and I was like, hey,
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Speaker 5: I'm just going to do a full iron Man and
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Speaker 5: I just need to sign up for it. So it
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Speaker 5: was like no, I think it was October November. I
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Speaker 5: did that sprint, and a couple of weeks later I
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Speaker 5: signed up for Ironman Tulsa in twenty twenty three. So
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Speaker 5: that was my oh, my first full iron Man, and
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Speaker 5: the big addiction.
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Speaker 2: Has really started since then.
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Speaker 5: So I started started training for that one and did
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Speaker 5: a half leading up to it, and during that full
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Speaker 5: iron Man, like I knew, like this is what I
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Speaker 5: wanted to do, Like the longer evad it's not super
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Speaker 5: high intensity, but it's just it's a long day.
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Speaker 4: It's it's a long day. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I might be wrong about this, but I think the
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Speaker 3: Texas when you did recently, you did it in like
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Speaker 3: ten hours and fifty four minutes or something like that.
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Speaker 3: Texas was just ten ten forty five or ten forty nine,
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Speaker 3: ten forty nine forty It was probably forty five. It
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Speaker 3: was probably forty five. I'm probably transposing though. Sorry, I
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Speaker 3: don't want to add eleven minutes here. Eleven minutes man,
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Speaker 3: but let help help my listeners understand the distances here,
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Speaker 3: because because when I hear iron Man, I go holy cow,
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Speaker 3: because I know what that I know what that entails.
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Speaker 3: So a sprint trath one is about how far I know.
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Speaker 3: There's different distances depending.
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Speaker 5: On Yeah, I want to say the sprints are usually
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Speaker 5: like a seven hundred and fifty meter swim, and then
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Speaker 5: they'll the bike ride will range from ten to fifteen miles,
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Speaker 5: and then depending five k run.
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Speaker 2: And then a five k run. Okay.
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Speaker 3: So to my listeners understanding, like we're talking about swimming
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Speaker 3: about a half mile, we're biking ten to fifteen miles,
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Speaker 3: and then we're running about a five k.
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Speaker 2: That's a sprint traft one.
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Speaker 4: So what so when we do a.
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Speaker 3: Trathlon like an Olympic distance traft one, what's what are
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Speaker 3: those distances?
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Speaker 5: That's a fifteen hundred meters swam, a forty kilometer bike
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Speaker 5: ride which is like twenty four ish miles, and then
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Speaker 5: a ten k.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So fifteen hundred meters is almost a mile, sixteen
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Speaker 3: hundred meters is a mile, and then we're going to
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Speaker 3: about a twenty four twenty four mile ishu y twenty
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Speaker 3: four point something, and then a ten k which is
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Speaker 3: six miles, okay, and then we start getting where I
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Speaker 3: call the crazy town, Like this is where you live.
16:48
Speaker 3: You live, and you were the mayor of crazy Town.
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Speaker 3: And I say that with admiration, not not denigration.
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Speaker 4: So so I half iron Man is how long?
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Speaker 5: One point two miles swam a fifty six mile bike
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Speaker 5: ride and then a half marathon.
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Speaker 3: Round that's the Oh that fifth the half marathon after
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Speaker 3: the fifty six mile bike ride is the that's the thing,
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Speaker 3: like people, Oh, I ever run a half marathon?
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Speaker 4: Like did you.
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Speaker 3: Ride fifty six miles prior? It's very different lead legs
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Speaker 3: for sure. And then finally the iron Man.
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Speaker 2: Which so everything's double there.
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Speaker 5: It's a two point four miles way one hundred and
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Speaker 5: twelve mile bike ride and then the marathon.
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Speaker 3: Wow, epic, dude, and you completed that in ten forty
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Speaker 3: five this year. So so the Texas one, though just
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Speaker 3: recently I didn't I didn't quite understand us on Instagram.
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Speaker 3: I apologize for the ignorance here. You did the double?
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Speaker 3: What's the Texas Double?
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Speaker 5: So that is so Texas has a half iron Man
17:45
Speaker 5: this year was April six, so that's in Galveston, Okay.
17:48
Speaker 5: And then the four iron Man was April twenty six,
17:53
Speaker 5: So they always have two races, so I did them
17:56
Speaker 5: both this year, which the Texas Half Ironman in April.
18:01
Speaker 5: The beginning of April, the swim was canceled, so we
18:03
Speaker 5: only had to bike and run. So we had some
18:05
Speaker 5: crazy weather come through and they canceled the swim portion.
18:09
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, gotcha.
18:10
Speaker 3: You had you had one post that said something like,
18:13
Speaker 3: on Saturday, I'm an iron man and on Monday, I'm
18:17
Speaker 3: just an eye doctor who walks funny or something like that.
18:19
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because.
18:24
Speaker 5: We raised Texas on Yeah, that was Saturday, and then
18:28
Speaker 5: we ended up flying home on Sunday morning, and I
18:30
Speaker 5: was Monday morning and I was back to work that afternoon.
18:34
Speaker 2: So wow, Lie, life goes on. It does it doesn't.
18:38
Speaker 4: That's a thing.
18:39
Speaker 3: That's a thing because you finish an endurance event, but
18:43
Speaker 3: you're still a dad, you still have a day job,
18:46
Speaker 3: you're still a husband, and so like, I'm sure there's
18:50
Speaker 3: some rest there, but there. I would say that anytime
18:52
Speaker 3: I've done an endurance event, and I've not done anything
18:55
Speaker 3: nearly as long as you have, But anytime I've done
18:59
Speaker 3: an endurance event, I'm intentional, like like I want to
19:02
Speaker 3: make sure my boys know Daddy needs to recover. But
19:07
Speaker 3: but it's not like I'm sick in bed in the room,
19:11
Speaker 3: like I don't. I don't have that luxury. I'm I'm
19:15
Speaker 3: I'm actively involved with them too. I just might not
19:18
Speaker 3: go jump on the trampoline right now. You know what,
19:21
Speaker 3: what does recovery look like for you after an event?
19:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think my kids understand kind of what I
19:27
Speaker 5: went through. And actually when they watch a full iron Man,
19:32
Speaker 5: they're pretty exhausted to at the end of that day.
19:35
Speaker 2: I'm very.
19:38
Speaker 4: All, this is a long time for a kid.
19:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, finishing those they're they're kind of ready to relax
19:44
Speaker 5: and everything. It's and it's not so much the day
19:47
Speaker 5: of like something like that. I feel like the next
19:49
Speaker 5: day when all the fatigue and everything sets in, and
19:52
Speaker 5: really sure that's the tough one because they're ready to
19:54
Speaker 5: go again. But those getting out of bed and get
19:58
Speaker 5: those legs movement is definitely tough.
20:00
Speaker 2: I feel way older than I am.
20:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned a trampoline. I did Ironman Florida last November,
20:08
Speaker 5: and the day after they had this giant it's like
20:13
Speaker 5: an inflatable trampoline things like, uh, blow up bounce houses
20:18
Speaker 5: and they had a huge bounce house park that was
20:21
Speaker 5: next to our hotel.
20:21
Speaker 2: So the kids of course wanted to go on that.
20:25
Speaker 2: Doing an iron Man and the next day having to
20:26
Speaker 2: walk and try to play on that No way are you.
20:30
Speaker 5: They went and did it, and I just like gingerly
20:33
Speaker 5: walked around. I think everyone probably didn't know what I
20:36
Speaker 5: was doing, but it was good.
20:39
Speaker 3: What's so funny to me is is, you know, no
20:41
Speaker 3: offense to the rest of the population, but you're probably
20:43
Speaker 3: the fittest guy there, but you're like hobbling like I,
20:46
Speaker 3: you know why I need to be on that princess
20:48
Speaker 3: bounce house.
20:49
Speaker 2: Like it just don't. Yeah, it's always interesting.
20:52
Speaker 5: You do those big races and when you finish them,
20:54
Speaker 5: everyone around you is, you know, new kind of knows
20:57
Speaker 5: what you just did because uh, you know, they're in
21:00
Speaker 5: that vicinity and they say that they knew iron Man
21:02
Speaker 5: was going on. But then you know, you leave or
21:04
Speaker 5: you get to the airport and you're like walking all
21:07
Speaker 5: funny and you were just looking at you.
21:08
Speaker 2: Like, you know, why why are you doing this? What's
21:11
Speaker 2: going on?
21:13
Speaker 3: That's a good question, Why why are we doing this?
21:17
Speaker 3: I think that's something I'd like to talk about because
21:19
Speaker 3: endurance training in and of itself is by definition inherently painful,
21:26
Speaker 3: like painful, mentally painful. Physically, it's I might even I
21:31
Speaker 3: might even say that it's painful spiritually. I have a
21:34
Speaker 3: I have an event I like called the death by
21:36
Speaker 3: five k, which is a five k every two and
21:39
Speaker 3: a half hours for twenty four hours. And and for me,
21:42
Speaker 3: I have an issue with my tendons and ligaments globally
21:45
Speaker 3: in my body.
21:46
Speaker 2: So a five k is.
21:47
Speaker 3: Long enough that I can work hard, but not so
21:51
Speaker 3: long that that because my muscles crap out of me.
21:53
Speaker 3: I'm really digging into my cartilage and joints and stuff
21:57
Speaker 3: and so so, but this is a brutal event. You know,
21:59
Speaker 3: you go all the way into like one am, two am,
22:02
Speaker 3: three am, you're waking up, and you're you're running and stuff,
22:05
Speaker 3: and and it's it's so interesting. You get to a
22:07
Speaker 3: place and I know you know this place because you've
22:10
Speaker 3: spent way more time in endurance training than I have.
22:13
Speaker 3: You get to this place where there's nothing left of
22:15
Speaker 3: you but whatever is underneath, and and I think of
22:19
Speaker 3: that as a very spiritual place. I think of that
22:21
Speaker 3: as a very spiritual place to be what what's left
22:23
Speaker 3: of you and your physical body is done, your mental
22:26
Speaker 3: fortitude is done, and there's there's a little part of
22:29
Speaker 3: you that's like, no, we're gonna keep going. And uh so, so,
22:34
Speaker 3: why why do all of this long distance stuff?
22:38
Speaker 2: What?
22:38
Speaker 4: What do you think is the appeal in your heart
22:40
Speaker 4: and mind?
22:42
Speaker 5: For me, it's definitely just getting the best out of me,
22:46
Speaker 5: like just to see see how far I can go,
22:49
Speaker 5: see how far I can push myself, like you said,
22:51
Speaker 5: physically and mentally, and then just setting the exact example
22:57
Speaker 5: I want for my kids. Just making sure they're not
23:01
Speaker 5: they're living to their full potential, so you know, not
23:04
Speaker 5: being complacent and sitting on the sidelines, but getting involved
23:09
Speaker 5: and doing what they want and not trying to hold
23:13
Speaker 5: back because they don't think they can do it. Is
23:15
Speaker 5: just showing them, hey, this is this is what you
23:18
Speaker 5: can do. And I think it rubs off on the
23:22
Speaker 5: physical side of things, but then mentally gives them a
23:25
Speaker 5: little bit more energy and everything to put towards, you know,
23:29
Speaker 5: any goals they have, whether little things for them now
23:33
Speaker 5: in school or little their sports and everything.
23:35
Speaker 3: So mm hmm, now I know you're a man of faith.
23:38
Speaker 3: I'm wearing a shirt that says grit on the front.
23:40
Speaker 3: On the back, it has a Bible verse from Galatians
23:43
Speaker 3: six nine.
23:43
Speaker 4: This is where the apostle Paul.
23:44
Speaker 3: Says, let us not grow weary of doing the right
23:47
Speaker 3: thing for the In the end, we will reap the
23:50
Speaker 3: harvest if we do not give up. In my mind,
23:53
Speaker 3: That's that's endurance training, like, because sometimes you're just you
23:56
Speaker 3: just like, don't give up. Like I don't know, I
23:59
Speaker 3: don't know how fast I'm going on, i don't know
24:00
Speaker 3: where my next meal is coming from.
24:02
Speaker 4: I'm probably dehydrated.
24:04
Speaker 3: But no matter what, I don't I'm not giving up
24:06
Speaker 3: right now, Like I'm just going to keep putting one
24:08
Speaker 3: foot in front of the other. I'm going to keep,
24:09
Speaker 3: you know, one stroke after the other.
24:10
Speaker 4: Right.
24:11
Speaker 3: So, so in my mind, this is a very spiritual
24:14
Speaker 3: thing because because what you're showing your kids is is
24:20
Speaker 3: Daddy might have to deal with a lot of different things,
24:23
Speaker 3: but Daddy doesn't give up.
24:24
Speaker 4: And that's that's what endurance training is.
24:26
Speaker 3: There's a lot of other bells and whistles and nuts
24:29
Speaker 3: and bolts and training modalities and programs and all the stuff,
24:32
Speaker 3: but at the very base of endurance training is like
24:34
Speaker 3: this is hard, but I'm not giving up. Is when
24:38
Speaker 3: you talk to your kids about this sort of training
24:41
Speaker 3: and they come back from these sorts of events, are
24:43
Speaker 3: you guys having conversations about what it means like not
24:46
Speaker 3: to give up and how you dig deep and what
24:49
Speaker 3: kind of prayers you pray when you find yourself in
24:51
Speaker 3: that place. For instance, how are you discussing this with
24:53
Speaker 3: your kiddos?
24:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you if you ask my kids, like, one
24:57
Speaker 5: thing I always tell them is to get comfortable and
25:00
Speaker 5: uncomfortable yeah okay, and they they've turned that into oh,
25:07
Speaker 5: it's take the pain to get rid of the pain.
25:09
Speaker 5: That's what I don't I've never said that. My middle
25:12
Speaker 5: child turned that into take the pain to get rid
25:14
Speaker 5: of the pain.
25:15
Speaker 2: So they've.
25:18
Speaker 5: And when they're doing something and they don't like doing
25:20
Speaker 5: it or you know, it's hard for them. He my
25:23
Speaker 5: middle one will actually say like, hey, my oldis is gunner.
25:27
Speaker 5: He'll be like, hey, gun or don't forget take the
25:29
Speaker 5: pain to get rid of the pain. And they The
25:31
Speaker 5: biggest thing with it, I think endurance sports and you
25:34
Speaker 5: can turn this into anything with life is just showing
25:37
Speaker 5: up every day. So you know, I don't wake out
25:40
Speaker 5: wake up every morning early in the morning and be like,
25:42
Speaker 5: oh yeah, I get to go sit on my bike
25:44
Speaker 5: for two hours. It's I know, that's the work that
25:47
Speaker 5: I need to do to be better today and be
25:51
Speaker 5: better the next day. So just waking up, putting the
25:54
Speaker 5: work in, just showing consistently, showing up and when I
25:58
Speaker 5: do that. Then it's consistently showing up for my kids,
26:01
Speaker 5: consistently showing up.
26:02
Speaker 2: For my wife, and then at work.
26:04
Speaker 5: So just one, it's a piece that builds onto other
26:07
Speaker 5: aspects of my life. And I think when you really
26:11
Speaker 5: challenge yourself and see what you're capable of, Well, if
26:14
Speaker 5: my kids want to play an extra half an hour,
26:17
Speaker 5: I know I.
26:17
Speaker 2: Can do that.
26:17
Speaker 5: It's I did an iron Man, and it's that's a
26:22
Speaker 5: long day. But when you get home from work and
26:26
Speaker 5: sometimes yeah, it sounds great to sit on the couch,
26:28
Speaker 5: but your kids are relying on you, and I know
26:30
Speaker 5: by all the physical activity I do, I can manage
26:33
Speaker 5: to go and run around and play with them and
26:36
Speaker 5: show up.
26:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there really is something too that. And this
26:40
Speaker 3: is one of the reasons I'm such a such a
26:42
Speaker 3: proponent of endurance events period like and and if you're
26:45
Speaker 3: listening to this and you're like, I'm not an durance athlete,
26:47
Speaker 3: I would still encourage you to go do a five K.
26:49
Speaker 3: I would still encourage you to go go do a
26:52
Speaker 3: swim event or even just a small obstacle course race
26:55
Speaker 3: or something to challenge yourself because there's there's there's a
26:58
Speaker 3: weird thing that happens in our brain when we and
27:00
Speaker 3: this is a well psychologically studied fact, when we approach
27:05
Speaker 3: something very very very difficult and we're successful. And it
27:09
Speaker 3: might not mean we're the best in the world at it,
27:11
Speaker 3: but we don't die like we actually you know, accomplish it.
27:16
Speaker 3: We can we can complete it. When we do that.
27:19
Speaker 3: What's weird is everything else in our life that becomes
27:22
Speaker 3: a litmus test for everything else. It's like, is this
27:26
Speaker 3: an iron Man?
27:27
Speaker 4: No?
27:27
Speaker 3: Okay, well I've done an iron Man, so like I
27:30
Speaker 3: can do this and whatever this is, and it kind
27:34
Speaker 3: of takes the feelings out of it takes the it
27:36
Speaker 3: takes the moods, it takes the emotional factors.
27:39
Speaker 4: It takes things like sleep deprivation.
27:41
Speaker 2: I know you've.
27:43
Speaker 3: You got four kids, man, sometimes you're just sleep deprived.
27:45
Speaker 3: That's how life goes, right, But it takes all those
27:48
Speaker 3: things out of it. And it says, is this an iron man?
27:50
Speaker 2: Yes? Or no?
27:51
Speaker 4: No, it's not an iron man? Is an iron man?
27:52
Speaker 2: Harder? Yes? It is?
27:53
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then I can do this but by proxy
27:57
Speaker 3: and and if I'm putting words in your mouth, correct me.
28:01
Speaker 3: But but would you say that happens in your brain sometimes.
28:04
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, just I do a lot of that
28:08
Speaker 5: kind of comparing day to day and and then even actually,
28:14
Speaker 5: like when in life when you're talking to someone and
28:18
Speaker 5: you're like, tell them I do Ironman's and their usual
28:22
Speaker 5: first response is, oh, I can never do that or
28:24
Speaker 5: I would never do that, And I think you when
28:28
Speaker 5: you make that choice, you know you automatically, like mentally lose.
28:32
Speaker 5: So yeah, if you're going to say that, then yeah,
28:35
Speaker 5: you probably will ever do one. But when someone comes
28:38
Speaker 5: to me and they say, oh, you're I heard about
28:41
Speaker 5: this crazy event for me, I'm like, hmm, I could
28:44
Speaker 5: probably do that just knowing that, yeah, maybe not tomorrow.
28:48
Speaker 2: But I know I could work to that and accomplish it.
28:51
Speaker 5: So it's definitely a big mental shift that you get
28:55
Speaker 5: from completing a lot of hard things and the hard
28:58
Speaker 5: events that transfer over to your everyday life.
29:02
Speaker 3: There was a Greek philosopher, I don't know if it
29:03
Speaker 3: was Archillicus or Hippocrates, one of the two said that
29:08
Speaker 3: a young man owes it to himself to find out
29:11
Speaker 3: what his athletic potential is, and what he meant by
29:15
Speaker 3: that is that that's a thing that a man needs
29:17
Speaker 3: in his life. A man needs to know what he's
29:19
Speaker 3: actually capable of. I I constantly find that that people
29:23
Speaker 3: are made of sterner stuff than they know. But it's
29:25
Speaker 3: the knowing part. It's the process of conditioning, the process
29:30
Speaker 3: of programming, the process of of of consistently showing up
29:35
Speaker 3: and doing the work and stuff and then accomplishing said
29:37
Speaker 3: goal and going like, wow, I can I can do that.
29:39
Speaker 3: I didn't think I could once upon a time, but
29:42
Speaker 3: now the proof's in the pudding.
29:43
Speaker 4: Now now I can do that.
29:45
Speaker 3: So so as far as Iron Manning goes, have you
29:49
Speaker 3: proved to yourself everything you need to prove or is
29:53
Speaker 3: there is there more that you're working to accomplish?
29:56
Speaker 5: Definitely more that I'm working to accomplish. I U I
30:00
Speaker 5: want to break ten hours and just like an actual
30:03
Speaker 5: Iron Man that's one of the time goals that I have.
30:06
Speaker 3: Wow, that's your fastest one. I saw Texas was ten
30:08
Speaker 3: forty five, but.
30:10
Speaker 2: Florida I did ten twenty nine and change.
30:13
Speaker 3: Okay, so that is knock off twenty nine minutes.
30:19
Speaker 2: In the long day.
30:19
Speaker 5: In the big scheme of things, it's like, well, you're
30:22
Speaker 5: going for ten hours, like twenty nine minutes, isn't Isn't
30:24
Speaker 5: that much knockoff.
30:25
Speaker 2: It's a lot to knock off. Yeah, it adds. It's
30:29
Speaker 2: the little things.
30:31
Speaker 3: What what in your mind? Where's your biggest opportunity for
30:34
Speaker 3: improvement right now? Where you're going to shave off some
30:36
Speaker 3: of that time?
30:37
Speaker 5: Mainly the bike. Okay, I can definitely get a lot
30:40
Speaker 5: stronger on the bike. My bike's not bad. But there's
30:43
Speaker 5: for your bike in one hundred and felve miles. So
30:46
Speaker 5: if I could go from you know, a five thirty
30:49
Speaker 5: five hour and thirty minute bike to a five hour bike,
30:51
Speaker 5: then there's my.
30:53
Speaker 2: That's all twenty nine minutes right there. Yeah.
30:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, So my marathon pace is pretty decent and my swim.
31:01
Speaker 5: I could definitely get faster on the swim, but it's
31:04
Speaker 5: a lot of work for marginal gains.
31:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not as it's not as big of a
31:08
Speaker 3: time sink either, is it.
31:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't like as much swimming as much
31:12
Speaker 5: as biking and running.
31:14
Speaker 4: That's right, Well, that's a big deal. That's a big
31:16
Speaker 4: deal for anybody listening.
31:17
Speaker 3: You might not be training for an iron man, but
31:19
Speaker 3: when you look at my opportunities for improvement, you have
31:22
Speaker 3: to ask, where's my biggest ROI orre's my biggest return
31:25
Speaker 3: on investment, And what do I like because that kind
31:28
Speaker 3: of matters. You know, if you like to cycle more
31:31
Speaker 3: than you like to swim, then if I can cut
31:34
Speaker 3: twenty nine minutes off my cycle time by working my
31:37
Speaker 3: butt off doing something I like a little better than
31:40
Speaker 3: cutting twelve minutes off of the grind.
31:42
Speaker 2: Of swimming, right, then.
31:46
Speaker 3: Not only are you working to accomplish your goal, but
31:48
Speaker 3: you're also doing it in a way that's more enjoyable
31:51
Speaker 3: than it could have been if you picked up the
31:53
Speaker 3: wrong word. And if it's not enjoyable, many people won't
31:55
Speaker 3: do it. I know endurance people are weird. We'll go
31:59
Speaker 3: that's kind of part of the package. This sucks like that,
32:01
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it harder. But now I did
32:06
Speaker 3: want to ask about nutrition, because an iron man half
32:12
Speaker 3: iron man, I mean, even a traf one. A lot
32:14
Speaker 3: of this has to do with getting enough fuel in
32:18
Speaker 3: the system that the whole system doesn't shut down. What
32:21
Speaker 3: are some of the practices that you've learned in endurance
32:24
Speaker 3: training that work well for you to fuel yourself for
32:27
Speaker 3: this sort of event.
32:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would say by beginning of my Trithlon career,
32:32
Speaker 5: I just I hate decent, but I just ate whatever,
32:36
Speaker 5: and you know, tried to fuel as much as I could,
32:40
Speaker 5: but it wasn't really into.
32:41
Speaker 2: That aspect of it as much.
32:44
Speaker 5: Now I know for a fact that if I don't
32:48
Speaker 5: fuel throughout the day with you know, carbs and proteins
32:52
Speaker 5: and even some healthy fats, that maybe.
32:55
Speaker 2: My training suffers, but it's more.
32:57
Speaker 5: After my training that energy levels are just extremely depleted.
33:03
Speaker 2: That has been out.
33:04
Speaker 5: Had like the biggest difference since I really got back
33:07
Speaker 5: into it with being able to show up for my
33:10
Speaker 5: kids after training, because before it would be hey, I
33:13
Speaker 5: went on to my ride my bike or I did
33:15
Speaker 5: a long run, and now I just want to sit
33:17
Speaker 5: on the couch for the rest of the day. But
33:18
Speaker 5: as you know, don't have that option anymore. So making
33:21
Speaker 5: sure I or fuel during everything and then properly afterwards
33:26
Speaker 5: with replenishing carbs, proteins and being able to still have
33:32
Speaker 5: that energy the rest of the day. But it's the
33:37
Speaker 5: especially if you look at racing, but then even training,
33:39
Speaker 5: trying to figure out how many carbs you can get
33:41
Speaker 5: in basically per hour.
33:43
Speaker 2: To fuel and not get GI.
33:46
Speaker 5: Distress is one of the big things that you just
33:49
Speaker 5: it's an experiment. I can get in Now, I'm like
33:53
Speaker 5: ninety to one hundred grams of carbs per hour like
33:55
Speaker 5: on my bike. Wow, that can sit pretty comfortable. And
33:59
Speaker 5: that has made a huge difference with just how I
34:01
Speaker 5: feel going into the run and then my running in general.
34:05
Speaker 5: So yeah, just prioritizing a lot of the healthy meals
34:09
Speaker 5: throughout the day. I really similar stuff every day and
34:13
Speaker 5: so that makes it easy. Dinner is what we always
34:16
Speaker 5: change up, and that's mainly just because with the kids
34:19
Speaker 5: and everything.
34:19
Speaker 3: So gotcha, Now, this is trathlon training at this level
34:26
Speaker 3: is a full time job. I mean maybe not actually
34:29
Speaker 3: forty hours a week all the time, but it's pretty
34:32
Speaker 3: darn close.
34:32
Speaker 4: Sometimes.
34:35
Speaker 3: How are you balancing your family, your work and training
34:40
Speaker 3: in this way? How are you balancing that Because many
34:43
Speaker 3: of the people that I work with, getting thirty minutes
34:46
Speaker 3: five days a week of training time is difficult to say, Hey,
34:52
Speaker 3: it's hard to find the time.
34:53
Speaker 4: It's like, I get it. But you don't have an.
34:54
Speaker 3: Option if you want to improve, if you want to
34:57
Speaker 3: become better conditioned, if you want healthier in a fitter lifestyle,
35:02
Speaker 3: if you want to deal with in my mind, that
35:04
Speaker 3: you're removing your physical body from being an obstacle to
35:08
Speaker 3: your spiritual self. But however you want to think about that.
35:12
Speaker 3: Many people will complain that they don't have the time
35:14
Speaker 3: and yet, and yet yours is basically a full time job.
35:18
Speaker 3: So how are you balancing your training time with family
35:22
Speaker 3: and work?
35:24
Speaker 5: Yep, with my training schedule so I do more like
35:28
Speaker 5: intensity work versus like the high volume. But I still
35:32
Speaker 5: my biggest weeks are like fifteen to eighteen hours. But
35:36
Speaker 5: that's you know, multiple weeks of training, so not just
35:39
Speaker 5: like a one and done week. But the biggest thing
35:43
Speaker 5: is I don't really try to find time or yeah,
35:45
Speaker 5: I don't really try to find time. I just make
35:48
Speaker 5: the time. So I know my kids wake up at
35:52
Speaker 5: they're usually like seven thirty eight o'clock, so as long
35:55
Speaker 5: as I can get the training in before that, then
35:57
Speaker 5: I'm good. So I wake up at either four thirty
36:00
Speaker 5: or five every morning and then get.
36:03
Speaker 2: Going with my training. So whatever I have to.
36:04
Speaker 5: Do that day, get that done, so I can almost
36:07
Speaker 5: have two hours of solid training throughout the week, and
36:11
Speaker 5: then I can go a little bit later on the weekends,
36:15
Speaker 5: knowing my wife will help out definitely in the morning's there,
36:19
Speaker 5: But just really trying to prioritize that time. So everyone
36:25
Speaker 5: just kind of tries to find time in their day.
36:28
Speaker 5: And I think you need to sit down and say, hey,
36:29
Speaker 5: I'm actually going to wake up at five o'clock and
36:33
Speaker 5: get this done. And even if you do thirty minutes
36:35
Speaker 5: a day, but then that thirty minutes, you might be
36:37
Speaker 5: able to say, you know what, I don't need that
36:40
Speaker 5: much time after that before my kids wake up where
36:43
Speaker 5: I have to get to work, so that thirty minutes
36:44
Speaker 5: turns into an hour. And you know, if you can
36:47
Speaker 5: get an hour or work in every day, that's that's plenty.
36:49
Speaker 2: So that's right.
36:50
Speaker 4: So I imagine you're going to bed pretty early too.
36:54
Speaker 2: I wish.
36:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, we end up I've probably averaged like ten o'clock.
37:00
Speaker 2: Here's my bedtime.
37:01
Speaker 5: Kids go to bed at like nine, nine thirty, depending
37:05
Speaker 5: on how that bedtime process goes, uh, and then yeah,
37:09
Speaker 5: me and my wife will get to bed. But yeah,
37:11
Speaker 5: I definitely run less sleep then. I ideally I'd like to,
37:17
Speaker 5: but that's that's my goal or my choice. I guess,
37:23
Speaker 5: just trying to balance everything.
37:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well it's sometimes it's like you're juggling, flaming
37:30
Speaker 3: by your pins in there.
37:31
Speaker 2: Ear least that's what it feels like to me.
37:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely being a dad, running a business, you know,
37:38
Speaker 3: training myself all is like, don't let any of them fall.
37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it?
37:45
Speaker 3: There's a comedian because you guys just you guys have
37:50
Speaker 3: your youngest is eleven months. Correct, Yep, there's a comedian.
37:53
Speaker 3: I think it's Gaffkin. I think he said it this way.
37:55
Speaker 3: He was like, people were asking me, what's it like
37:57
Speaker 3: having four kids, and he's like, imagine, I imagine you're
38:00
Speaker 3: drowning in the middle of the ocean and then somebody
38:02
Speaker 3: hands you a baby. It's pretty good. But your your wife,
38:10
Speaker 3: kudos to her. I don't know her, but high five chica,
38:13
Speaker 3: you're crushing it. She joins you for workouts pretty frequently
38:16
Speaker 3: as well. Correct, Like I saw I saw one of
38:18
Speaker 3: your Instagram things. It was like, hey, date night and
38:20
Speaker 3: she's over there doing like single leg presses next to
38:24
Speaker 3: the car in the garage.
38:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's been a huge upgrade to just the whole
38:31
Speaker 5: training is our garage gym, So having that available, you
38:35
Speaker 5: don't wasting time going back and forth driving to a gym,
38:38
Speaker 5: So you know, you're hour long workout that you might
38:42
Speaker 5: have had when you're driving to the gym, you know,
38:44
Speaker 5: you can cut that time way down. But yeah, she
38:46
Speaker 5: gets out there and she's super supportive and everything I do,
38:50
Speaker 5: and we balance our fitness lives together. But yeah, my
38:55
Speaker 5: spring training, a lot of times she'll jump in and
38:57
Speaker 5: she'll be out there getting it done with us. And
39:00
Speaker 5: then when she's out there, the kids are more inclined
39:03
Speaker 5: because we're both out there to.
39:04
Speaker 2: Come out and hang out. And now that.
39:06
Speaker 5: It's summer, they can be out playing in driveway in
39:08
Speaker 5: the yard and whatnot. And yeah we can be and
39:10
Speaker 5: they're getting our work done.
39:11
Speaker 2: But yeah, good family time for sure. Yeah, it's it's
39:14
Speaker 2: a lot of fun just that garage gym.
39:16
Speaker 5: We've had a lot of time together in there, and
39:18
Speaker 5: it's it's a cool thing to have cool play, share
39:21
Speaker 5: share time together.
39:22
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, no, I personally, I mean you see
39:25
Speaker 4: it behind me.
39:25
Speaker 2: I love.
39:27
Speaker 3: I love having a gym space for myself because you know,
39:30
Speaker 3: if I go to a commercial gym, my boys aren't
39:33
Speaker 3: they're not old enough to be on the fitness floor. Mah.
39:35
Speaker 4: I get it.
39:36
Speaker 3: The insurance liability and I've seen some yeah who's do
39:38
Speaker 3: some weird stuff in the gym. I don't need my
39:40
Speaker 3: nine year old getting crushed, right, But but in our space,
39:44
Speaker 3: you know, they're doing pull ups, they're doing push ups.
39:46
Speaker 3: My my six year old likes to build little obstacle
39:48
Speaker 3: courses and jump around and stuff. I just have to
39:51
Speaker 3: make sure when I'm doing dumbbell snatches, he doesn't fly by.
39:54
Speaker 3: You know, Daddy's doing snatches. Move but that that time.
40:02
Speaker 3: What's so cool about that is I didn't grow up
40:05
Speaker 3: like that. I did not grow up with with fitness
40:07
Speaker 3: being a normal thing. In fact, as I as I
40:09
Speaker 3: grew up, I was the weird fitness guy in my family.
40:12
Speaker 3: You know, I made time to run, I made time
40:14
Speaker 3: to lift, and people in my family are like, that's
40:17
Speaker 3: just weird. But but I love this for my children
40:20
Speaker 3: that it's just normal to go work out, it's just
40:23
Speaker 3: normal to go run a mile, it's just normal to
40:25
Speaker 3: go like it's normal to do these things.
40:28
Speaker 4: That's a family activity. And I love knowing.
40:31
Speaker 3: That that's just going to be normal for them in
40:34
Speaker 3: their life, that they have the opportunity to to do that.
40:38
Speaker 3: Is that is that something that you're you're seeing in
40:40
Speaker 3: your household and that you're actively pursuing.
40:43
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely.
40:45
Speaker 1: And Uh.
40:46
Speaker 5: I'll talk to people and you know, they see my
40:49
Speaker 5: kids in there, and you'll get some people judging like, oh,
40:51
Speaker 5: they shouldn't be in around the gym. But even if
40:54
Speaker 5: they're in there just watching me, they know that, hey,
40:57
Speaker 5: when I grow up, that's probably what I'm going to do,
40:59
Speaker 5: you know.
40:59
Speaker 2: They they want to have that as part of their life.
41:01
Speaker 5: But even outside of the gym is you'll talk to
41:05
Speaker 5: people and they're like, oh, well, my kid just wants
41:07
Speaker 5: to sit on side inside on the couch all day
41:09
Speaker 5: and you know, not do this and I'll go outside
41:11
Speaker 5: not play baseball. But all it takes sometimes is if
41:15
Speaker 5: your kids are doing that is for you to actually
41:17
Speaker 5: go outside, have a baseball, start throwing it up and down.
41:20
Speaker 5: They're not going to sit there and look out the
41:21
Speaker 5: window and be like, hey, my dad's out there throwing
41:24
Speaker 5: a baseball to himself.
41:25
Speaker 2: They're going to want to join you.
41:26
Speaker 5: And that's all it takes is just for them to
41:29
Speaker 5: emulate what you're doing.
41:31
Speaker 2: And that's the easiest way is for you to go
41:33
Speaker 2: up and do.
41:34
Speaker 5: It and get them involved versus just saying, hey, some
41:39
Speaker 5: go outside and run around, like show him how to
41:42
Speaker 5: do it, or show them how to do it.
41:44
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
41:45
Speaker 3: And you know, from me to any listeners listening, like
41:49
Speaker 3: I'm not in that great as shape, you know, I'm
41:51
Speaker 3: It's easy for an iron man to say, like, go
41:54
Speaker 3: do it, but but I want you to know that
41:58
Speaker 3: your kids will see your effort, even if it's not
42:03
Speaker 3: hyper athletic or anything like even going for a walk
42:06
Speaker 3: around the block or doing a soccer drill where you
42:09
Speaker 3: just kick the ball and let them go chase after it.
42:12
Speaker 3: Just being available and around will one challenge you because hey,
42:17
Speaker 3: now we got a thing we have to do which
42:20
Speaker 3: I have to be in better shape to do all
42:21
Speaker 3: the time, which is like, that's a great thing to
42:24
Speaker 3: have to work for. You might you might decide you
42:27
Speaker 3: want to be a part of a triathlon and then
42:29
Speaker 3: you'll have to get in good shape for that. But
42:31
Speaker 3: you also might decide i want to play soccer with
42:33
Speaker 3: my kid, and I'm not in the kind of shape
42:35
Speaker 3: I need to do that. That man, that's there's nothing
42:37
Speaker 3: healthier or fitter you can do than trained to be
42:40
Speaker 3: a good Parent's that's so huge, but but it's so
42:46
Speaker 3: powerful for our kids to see us do something that
42:48
Speaker 3: pushes us to our limits and so I admire what
42:53
Speaker 3: you do and that your kids are are with you
42:55
Speaker 3: to see you, because it's not like Dad's smiling through.
42:59
Speaker 2: The whole iron Man.
43:00
Speaker 5: You know, No, they know, they definitely, especially my oldest.
43:06
Speaker 5: He's the one that gets it the most. He's seven,
43:08
Speaker 5: so he kind of understands it the most. But they
43:12
Speaker 5: when they see me really pushing towards the end of
43:15
Speaker 5: those races, he's told me he's like, got scared and
43:18
Speaker 5: you know, not sure if you know what's going on.
43:21
Speaker 5: And I did a last man standing kind of similar
43:24
Speaker 5: to your death by five k it's the four miles
43:27
Speaker 5: every hour, and when I started running into the night,
43:31
Speaker 5: they went back to the hotel to sleep, and I
43:34
Speaker 5: guess when they were leaving, he got really worried because
43:37
Speaker 5: he knew I was I was striving whatever.
43:39
Speaker 2: We were fifty miles so yeah.
43:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were fifty miles in at that point, and
43:43
Speaker 5: then they're just leaving me to be out there in
43:46
Speaker 5: the dark by myself, well with other racers. But he
43:50
Speaker 5: gets at the most of man, it's the effort that
43:54
Speaker 5: you're putting in and how to show that up for himself.
43:59
Speaker 5: And they started doing triathlons and so he gets to
44:04
Speaker 5: participate in it and kind of compare what he's doing
44:07
Speaker 5: to me.
44:08
Speaker 4: Oh, he gets to do at seven. They have a
44:11
Speaker 4: traflon for seven year olds.
44:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, they.
44:15
Speaker 5: They have like really really small ones for even smaller kids. Basically, yeah,
44:20
Speaker 5: if your kid can ride a bike or they actually
44:22
Speaker 5: do like scooters and some of them too that are
44:24
Speaker 5: like really really short. But yeah, they actually have triathlon
44:28
Speaker 5: camp that starts next week. Yeah, they do him here.
44:33
Speaker 5: I think his as like six and seven year old.
44:36
Speaker 5: It's either a twenty five yard or fifty yard swim,
44:40
Speaker 5: like a three mile bike and they usually a mile run.
44:43
Speaker 2: How cool. That's so cool.
44:45
Speaker 3: That's well, Pennsylvania might have hockey, but but Kansas, I
44:49
Speaker 3: think you guys are leaning on the endurance front. Man,
44:52
Speaker 3: if you can, yes, that's awesome. So in recently in
44:57
Speaker 3: my death by five k my nine year old, and
45:01
Speaker 3: he caught me. He's he's a natural born endurance athlete.
45:05
Speaker 3: This kid is going to be a monster. He has
45:07
Speaker 3: no idea yet. He does like track and field with
45:11
Speaker 3: his with his school, and they'll they do two hundred
45:14
Speaker 3: meters or less, you know, like they don't they don't
45:17
Speaker 3: run any more than that. And he's upset because you know,
45:19
Speaker 3: some of the kids are faster than him. I'm like,
45:21
Speaker 3: you don't understand, buddy, Like if they extended that race
45:24
Speaker 3: for a like just one lap around the track, you'd
45:27
Speaker 3: smoke these poor kids, because.
45:29
Speaker 4: There are some kids who are faster.
45:31
Speaker 3: But there's a different thing, there's a different switch that
45:33
Speaker 3: flips when you're the kid who doesn't stop, you know.
45:37
Speaker 3: So anyway, he catches me on the on the back
45:40
Speaker 3: end of the six to five cam running and and
45:43
Speaker 3: he he runs with me, and he's used to running
45:46
Speaker 3: with me. I've run with this kid since this about
45:48
Speaker 3: the I wouldn't have been able to teach this kid
45:50
Speaker 3: to read without running.
45:51
Speaker 4: He's like off the walls.
45:52
Speaker 3: So like, let's go run and then we'll learn the alphabet.
45:57
Speaker 3: So so I I'm running and he takes off and
46:00
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, buddy, I'm I'm going.
46:03
Speaker 4: To follow you as best I can. But you were
46:05
Speaker 4: you were cruising.
46:06
Speaker 2: Man.
46:07
Speaker 3: He's he's probably at five minutes a mile and at
46:10
Speaker 3: his pace, and I'm like, ah, because you know, I'm
46:13
Speaker 3: six five k's in so uh So he turns and
46:16
Speaker 3: he looks at me and he is the It was
46:19
Speaker 3: the weirdest thing was the first time in his life
46:20
Speaker 3: he understood that Dad can physically not run any faster
46:23
Speaker 3: than he's running right now, Like I can outrun Dad,
46:27
Speaker 3: and it was so weird. He backed up a little
46:29
Speaker 3: bit and then ran with me, and he goes, are
46:30
Speaker 3: you doing okay? I was like, my nine year old
46:32
Speaker 3: checking on me. Yeah, I'm good man, this is a
46:35
Speaker 3: great pace. You keep running. I'll just follow you. And
46:38
Speaker 3: and I had this this so this is such a
46:40
Speaker 3: cool feeling, such a cool vision watching that. It's not yet,
46:44
Speaker 3: but someday this, this young man is going to beat me.
46:48
Speaker 3: Not yet, but someday this young man is gonna beat me.
46:51
Speaker 3: And I wasn't even mad about it. I was like,
46:53
Speaker 3: that's so cool, Like I I, I promise I'll give
46:56
Speaker 3: him a run for his money.
46:57
Speaker 2: I'll make him.
46:58
Speaker 4: But that's right.
46:59
Speaker 3: But but I saw in that moment the opportunity to
47:05
Speaker 3: pass this on to him, that he was doing this.
47:07
Speaker 3: And I'd never gotten to run a event with my sons,
47:11
Speaker 3: so that was a lot of fun for him to
47:12
Speaker 3: join me. For for a second, when you train, do
47:16
Speaker 3: your kids take off or on the block with you?
47:19
Speaker 3: Do they get in the pool with you? How often
47:22
Speaker 3: do you get to do stuff like that.
47:25
Speaker 5: A lot of my like shorter, easier runs, or even
47:28
Speaker 5: if it's not even short, if I just have to
47:30
Speaker 5: do an easy run, there's a lot of times they'll
47:33
Speaker 5: either run with me. My oldest will sometimes run with
47:35
Speaker 5: me if I'm running slow enough. But a lot of
47:38
Speaker 5: times they'll jump off their bikes. So we live like
47:42
Speaker 5: outside kind of like little rural areas, so they can
47:45
Speaker 5: get on the road and I'll run on the road
47:46
Speaker 5: and you know, we might go and do an out
47:49
Speaker 5: and back full mile and then if I need to
47:52
Speaker 5: keep running, I will, but then they'll get off their
47:54
Speaker 5: bikes or that's cool, you just kind of go with me.
47:56
Speaker 5: But that's been a big thing just getting them on
47:58
Speaker 5: their bikes and they can run that I can or
48:00
Speaker 5: I can run and they can ride, and then they're
48:04
Speaker 5: there experiencing it with you.
48:05
Speaker 2: And it's been good just teaching them.
48:10
Speaker 5: How like with the endurance sports is like you know,
48:14
Speaker 5: you don't need to run out get out there and
48:15
Speaker 5: sprint as fast as you can, like they're something to paint,
48:19
Speaker 5: taking it slower and yeah, like facing yourself.
48:21
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, had some good lessons out there.
48:26
Speaker 4: That's that's good.
48:27
Speaker 3: H I did a color run with my my oldest recently.
48:31
Speaker 3: The you know, community put it on and stuff and
48:34
Speaker 3: and all the kids. There was probably about three or
48:36
Speaker 3: four hundred kids around here who'd gotten on the line,
48:39
Speaker 3: and a couple of other parents, and uh, my son's
48:42
Speaker 3: in fourth grade, and so a lot of the fifth
48:44
Speaker 3: and sixth graders in this area were up on the
48:46
Speaker 3: line and they were gonna they were gonna smoke us. Man,
48:50
Speaker 3: he was like, these these guys are gonna run so fast.
48:52
Speaker 3: It was a two mile run, okay, And so so
48:56
Speaker 3: I said to him, I was like, let them get
48:59
Speaker 3: out in front and then we just won't slow down.
49:03
Speaker 3: And to him, that was crazy town. Didn't make anything.
49:05
Speaker 3: So then they take off and they're probably like three
49:09
Speaker 3: hundred yards ahead of us, about you know, a half
49:13
Speaker 3: mile into this race. And then we passed one and
49:16
Speaker 3: I said, see, like, we can speed up if we want,
49:19
Speaker 3: but but I'll stay with you. I'll let you pace me,
49:22
Speaker 3: but but we're just gonna We're just not gonna slow down.
49:25
Speaker 3: And so by the first mile we had gotten all
49:28
Speaker 3: the way to the front runner and this poor kid
49:30
Speaker 3: was dying.
49:30
Speaker 2: He's like.
49:33
Speaker 4: And he looks at us, and he goes, how are
49:34
Speaker 4: you still running?
49:35
Speaker 3: You know, and like I've added him, I said, hey,
49:37
Speaker 3: good run, buddy, and and and my son looks at
49:41
Speaker 3: me and he goes, what's wrong with these people? And
49:45
Speaker 3: I said, buddy, there's just a difference between endurance and sprinting.
49:50
Speaker 3: And endurance, you pace yourself, you get some good breath
49:53
Speaker 3: and you just don't stop. You can speed up if
49:55
Speaker 3: you want to, but but you don't get to stop.
49:57
Speaker 3: I said, it looks like you're friends don't understand that yet.
50:02
Speaker 3: But but that kind of brings me to, uh, this
50:05
Speaker 3: this faith question. In our our devotional we identify four
50:10
Speaker 3: disciplines integrity, grit, growth in AWE that are biblically grounded,
50:14
Speaker 3: and the idea being that that if we can biblically
50:17
Speaker 3: ground our fitness practice, then we won't go the way
50:20
Speaker 3: of vanity in the world, which is like I'm going
50:22
Speaker 3: to be the best iron Man triathlete so that everybody
50:26
Speaker 3: thinks I'm awesome, which I know obviously isn't isn't your
50:28
Speaker 3: forte But but you can see where, especially in the
50:32
Speaker 3: Instagram fitness world, vanity is a is a well it's pervasive,
50:39
Speaker 3: but but grit is the discipline that teaches us how
50:43
Speaker 3: to endure and keep going. When we would we want
50:47
Speaker 3: to quit, we would have we would have stopped a
50:49
Speaker 3: while ago. And and that's not exactly a natural thing.
50:53
Speaker 2: In the world.
50:54
Speaker 4: It's not like not many people have grit because it's
51:00
Speaker 4: difficult to cultivate.
51:02
Speaker 3: So so I'd like to ask, you know, I asked
51:05
Speaker 3: walking into this conversation, what role faith plays in your
51:09
Speaker 3: role and in your life. We can talk about the
51:11
Speaker 3: grit thing in a second, but in your household, when
51:15
Speaker 3: you are when you are teaching these lessons, when you
51:18
Speaker 3: are being a good dad your kids and stuff. What
51:20
Speaker 3: role does does faith play in your fitness practice and
51:24
Speaker 3: in your parenting?
51:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it comes down to.
51:31
Speaker 5: Like teaching them like the reason and giving them the
51:40
Speaker 5: opportunities to be.
51:42
Speaker 2: Able to do whatever they want.
51:44
Speaker 5: So I always kind of tell them like knowing, you know,
51:49
Speaker 5: if I'm not there, but someone has your back, you know,
51:52
Speaker 5: they have that faith to continue and keep going.
51:57
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
51:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the Psalmist said that the Lord is my strength,
52:04
Speaker 3: and it is by the Lord's power that I'm able
52:06
Speaker 3: to do X y Z thing. And that's a I
52:10
Speaker 3: think I love that about endurance training because at some
52:13
Speaker 3: point where you're where you're in the event, there there
52:18
Speaker 3: is that place where whether you fueld yourself well or not,
52:22
Speaker 3: whether whether your your pace is great or not, whether
52:26
Speaker 3: you're in a good headspace or not, there is that space.
52:29
Speaker 4: Where where you're not enough.
52:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to know, like, who do I
52:36
Speaker 3: depend on on at that point?
52:40
Speaker 2: And for me?
52:41
Speaker 3: And it sounds like for you, but I don't want
52:43
Speaker 3: to speak for you. For me, that's God. That's where
52:46
Speaker 3: That's where I find myself praying, teaching them a little further.
52:49
Speaker 3: Help be there, be my strength. Lord, help me sometimes
52:54
Speaker 3: I'm so out of breath, Like it's just it's a
52:56
Speaker 3: one word prayer.
52:58
Speaker 2: Lord, you know.
53:00
Speaker 5: That's helping you take that extra step and keep going,
53:03
Speaker 5: like the end of marathon and an iron man, you
53:05
Speaker 5: need all the help you can get. And definitely, I
53:08
Speaker 5: think succumbing to His presence and knowing that it definitely
53:13
Speaker 5: helps keep putting a foot in front of the other
53:15
Speaker 5: because that's all it takes.
53:17
Speaker 3: Now, I understand that you coach individuals who are interested
53:21
Speaker 3: in doing a traf one In fact, you say this,
53:23
Speaker 3: which which might sound weird to them, but if I
53:26
Speaker 3: can do it, you can do it. That's that's what
53:28
Speaker 3: you're always saying, like, if I can do it, you
53:29
Speaker 3: can do it.
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Speaker 4: I wanted to give you.
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Speaker 3: An opportunity to address those individuals now who've listened to
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Speaker 3: this and go all right, I'll try a trifle, but
53:37
Speaker 3: I have no idea where to start. How would you
53:40
Speaker 3: advise them to get started and how would they get
53:42
Speaker 3: connected to you for coaching if that's something they wanted
53:45
Speaker 3: to do.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 5: So I started coaching after having just a ton of
53:49
Speaker 5: people through Instagram reach out, you know, for tips and everything.
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Speaker 5: So finally started coaching this year. If you're interested in that,
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Speaker 5: just reach out through Instagram. That's the easiest way. I
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Speaker 5: still have like a couple lots available. Am not trying
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Speaker 5: to do a ton of ton of coaching, but it's
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Speaker 5: just something I enjoy and getting to see people progress
54:07
Speaker 5: is pretty cool. So yeah, but yeah, I mean with triathlon,
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Speaker 5: you know, I know there's a lot of people that
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Speaker 5: just say, hey, I'm going to sign up for an
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Speaker 5: iron Man, and that's what they want to start with.
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Speaker 5: But you can do the evolution of a sprint Olympic,
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Speaker 5: a half Ironman, and then a full iron Man if
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Speaker 5: you want to go that far, you don't have to
54:26
Speaker 5: do an iron Man to call yourself a triathlete. You
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Speaker 5: can do your local sprint triathlon and that's a huge accomplishment,
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Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, like with my if I can do it,
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Speaker 5: you can do it. I think the mental side of
54:40
Speaker 5: it has a huge role and just believing in yourself
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Speaker 5: that you can do something and yeah, maybe not tomorrow,
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Speaker 5: but three, six, nine months down the road. If you
54:52
Speaker 5: continue to put in the work and show up for
54:53
Speaker 5: yourself every day that you know you'll the fitness will
54:56
Speaker 5: get there. It's fitness isn't born overnight. It's a process
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Speaker 5: and you just have to take the time. And that's
55:02
Speaker 5: where the coaching comes into play of instead of hey
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Speaker 5: I want to run a five game, we don't just
55:08
Speaker 5: go out there and run a hard mile every day.
55:11
Speaker 5: Like take your time and it might be you're running
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Speaker 5: for a minute and then walking for nine minutes, so
55:17
Speaker 5: you're doing that multiple times. So it's a process. And
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Speaker 5: with the coaching, I've just really enjoyed helping some people
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Speaker 5: and you know, it's fun to see other people succeed
55:30
Speaker 5: outside of just myself.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool to see your passion help somebody make
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Speaker 3: a change that they've wanted to.
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Speaker 2: For a long time. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, in the.
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Speaker 4: Same way that you got addicted to very long range.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
55:44
Speaker 3: I got addicted to coaching in that way back when
55:48
Speaker 3: I was working with individuals and ROTC. This was like
55:52
Speaker 3: twenty years ago. And what I saw was if you
55:55
Speaker 3: did the work, you got better. And when you got better,
55:57
Speaker 3: you were like, oh my gosh, I can do that't
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Speaker 3: do that before, but now I can, And that changes
56:03
Speaker 3: your whole mindset about your whole life. And I was
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Speaker 3: hooked instantly, like I wanted to help people do that.
56:09
Speaker 3: So I want to as we're coming up on our
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Speaker 3: time here, I want to pray over you.
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Speaker 4: I want to pray over.
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Speaker 3: Your family and your endeavors, and then close out our
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Speaker 3: conversation here. So if you would bow your head with me,
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Speaker 3: Father God, thank you so much for the opportunity to
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Speaker 3: spend time with Phil today, and thank you so much
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Speaker 3: for the victories and triumphs that you have brought in
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Speaker 3: his life.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for the grit that you're.
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Speaker 3: Teaching him to grow and discipline in his life, and
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Speaker 3: thank you for the way that it's passing on to
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Speaker 3: his kids. Got to pray a special prayer of blessing
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Speaker 3: over he and his wife and their endeavors. And Lord,
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Speaker 3: I pray that you'll bless him with health and recovery
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Speaker 3: and protection in each of the events that he has
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Speaker 3: coming up. Got to pray that you'll make him a
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Speaker 3: light that inspires other individuals to dig in and learn
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Speaker 3: what you truly made them of so they can accomplish
56:57
Speaker 3: great things.
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Speaker 4: I pray these things in Jesus name. Amen.
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Speaker 3: Well, Phil, thanks so much for the time man, I
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Speaker 3: appreciate you very much.
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Speaker 4: Into our listeners.
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Speaker 3: Guys, this has been coach Alex Vann Houghton on the
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Speaker 3: Faithful Fitness podcast. You know what I'm going to say next.
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Speaker 3: Until next time, Train hard, pray harder.
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