Latest / True Crime with Gavin Fish / New Twist in Ex-NFL Murder Case as ChatGPT Evidence Emerges in Court | Gabriella Carvalho Perpétuo
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- 0:03I guess it I guess it was just going to be a matter of time.
- 0:06I guess it was just it was going to happen.
- 0:09It was inevitable that some stupid criminal, some absolute
- 0:14dillhole. Gavin.
- 0:16Do we have dillhole music? Do we have dillhole music?
- 0:18I think we do, button. That's professional.
- 0:28Quibbler, Gavin Oh, Javi, we're going to have to do a take 2.
- 0:31Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's try the right that some
- 0:44idiot criminal was going to use AI to try to get out of taking
- 0:53responsibility for their Dill Hall ish crimes.
- 0:56And we have candidate number one in our midst.
- 1:01This is in the not so funny case of the murder of Gabriella
- 1:07Carvalho Perpetuo. I know that I kind of started
- 1:11with a little jocularity here, but it's not funny.
- 1:17Her boyfriend, according to police ex NFL player Darren Lee
- 1:24tried to use Chad GT to get out of to cover U his crime.
- 1:28Let's put it that way. We're going to catch U on the
- 1:31case. We're going to get to know the
- 1:32case a little bit, get into the details.
- 1:35The nittygritty I hoe you stick with me.
- 1:49This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
- 1:52only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
- 1:58Hello there, my friend, and welcome back to another true
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- 3:44We got a Tar Heel in the house. North Carolina.
- 3:46Thank you very much. Teresa Moyer says so much for
- 3:50Uncle Google. Now we have Aunt ChatGPT.
- 3:54Yeah. This case is opening a Pandora's
- 3:56box for finance. What are we?
- 4:01Forensic digital forensics. This I mean with whatever new
- 4:10technology hits, it does seem that criminals, we use them for
- 4:15their nefarious deeds. Thank you very much Mooney for
- 4:21starting us off today. The goal is to get 10 yellow
- 4:28level super chats and if we do what I promised to do is to read
- 4:38whatever you put in your super chat and a movie theater trailer
- 4:42voice. Give me let's Javi.
- 4:45Hey, let's do an audition here. Oh, I'll start us off today.
- 4:51How was that OK? Oh, I shouldn't have done that.
- 4:54We haven't had the goal, Moni. But thank you very much for
- 4:57starting us off. I really appreciate it.
- 5:00You are the OG. You guys don't know this but
- 5:02Moni is the OG, the original, the original channel member, the
- 5:07very first one and she has been with me for years now.
- 5:11Thank you, thank you Mooney. OK join me if you'll y'all will
- 5:17over on Acrobat. Remember to put GF in your
- 5:20comments it highlights it on my end.
- 5:24Anything you want me to read? This from News Channel 9 written
- 5:29by Meg Doyle. This was back in February, back
- 5:34in February, February 11th. This case has been going for a
- 5:39little bit over a month now. My wife asked me to cover this
- 5:43weeks ago because she heard it on a not true crime podcast.
- 5:48She's like, this is a crazy, you got to check this out.
- 5:51And we were just so into the weeds on Nancy Guthrie and Cory
- 5:56Richins that I just I hadn't. But let's catch up.
- 6:00February 11th, 2026 Meg Doyle wrote on newschannel9.com
- 6:05headline blood in every room, new details at hearing for ex
- 6:11NFL player charged with murder. I should start with just a quick
- 6:19I just want to show our our victim here.
- 6:23This is Gabriella Carvalho Perpetua.
- 6:27She was the girlfriend of former NFL player Darren Lee.
- 6:35Here is Darren Lee's his mug shots and photo of him in court.
- 6:42For those of you watching on YouTube and on Spotify, let's
- 6:48read this from Meg Doyle. Dateline Chattanooga, TN Former
- 6:52NFL linebacker Darren Lee was denied bond Wednesday in
- 6:56Chattanooga after a judge heard disturbing testimony about the
- 7:01death of his girlfriend inside a rented Ultawa home.
- 7:06I have no idea if I pronounced that delightful little location
- 7:11correctly. Ultawa Ultawa.
- 7:14I don't know. Lee is charged with first degree
- 7:17murder and tampering with evidence in the death of
- 7:20Gabriella Carvalho Perpetuo. We learned in court, continues
- 7:29Meg the gruesome details about Perpetua's murder, including the
- 7:35presence of quote blood in every room, close quote, and in a
- 7:39vehicle in a garage. During the bond hearing,
- 7:44testimony focused on whether Lee should remain behind bars as the
- 7:49case moves forward. Hamilton County Sheriff's Office
- 7:53Detective Brian Lockhart, one of the first investigators on
- 7:56scene, described A chaotic and violent crime scene.
- 8:02Quote, The scene was in disarray, Lockhart said.
- 8:05You walked in the door, There were boxes, a lot of stuff in
- 8:09the living room. The deceased was in the floor
- 8:12lying on her back. close quote. Lockhart said.
- 8:16Lee was inside the home when deputies arrived.
- 8:18According to testimony, Lee told officers Perpetuo had narcolepsy
- 8:24and likely fell in the shower, causing her injuries.
- 8:28Ah, the old fell in the shower gag.
- 8:32Now what's the what's the right word?
- 8:33The gambit? The old fell in the shower
- 8:37gambit causing her injuries, Meg continues.
- 8:43Investigators said the evidence did not Max the match the
- 8:47explanation. Lockhart testified there was
- 8:51blood on the staircase, hand rails, walls, floors and nearly
- 8:57every room of the house. A vehicle in the garage
- 9:03registered to both Lee and Perpetuo, also tested positive
- 9:08for blood using Blue Star, a chemical detection system.
- 9:14There was blood going up the staircase on the hand railing.
- 9:17There was blood on the walls. Let's see, on the handwriting on
- 9:22the hand railing. There was blood on the walls.
- 9:24There was blood on the floor in the living room.
- 9:26There was blood on the floor in the hallway, in the stairs.
- 9:29There was blood in just about every room except 1, Lockhart
- 9:33told the court. He said the microwave was
- 9:38shattered, glass was scattered throughout the home, and alcohol
- 9:42bottles were present. Detectives also found cleaning
- 9:46supplies upstairs, including bleach wipes, a spray bottle and
- 9:51a full bag. An autopsy revealed what
- 9:54Lockhart described as severe injuries.
- 9:56Listen to this guys and let's bring up our victim here.
- 10:03An autopsy revealed what Lockhart described as severe
- 10:08injuries, including severe brain trauma, a broken neck, bruising
- 10:15across her body, a large bite mark on her shoulder and thigh,
- 10:22stab wounds to her legs and significant facial trauma.
- 10:30The medical examiner determined Perpetuo died from blunt force
- 10:35trauma going back. He said she fell in the shower.
- 10:43He said she fell in the shower. Oh, my goodness.
- 11:00Wow. This is in Tennessee.
- 11:05Just ducky. I just saw your comment.
- 11:08OK, I'm going to read that again so that you can see it, OK?
- 11:14An autopsy revealed what Lockhart described as severe
- 11:16injuries, including severe brain trauma, a broken neck, bruises
- 11:21across her body, a large bite mark on her shoulder and thigh,
- 11:25stab wounds to her legs and significant facial trauma.
- 11:30She died from blunt force trauma, Lockhart said.
- 11:34She was wearing pants but no top when found.
- 11:38Under cross examination, Lockhart confirmed Lee was the
- 11:41one who called 911. He said Lee told dispatchers.
- 11:46Let's Gavin, let's bring up, let's bring up Mr. Lee here.
- 11:53He said Lee told dispatchers Perpetua was unresponsive and
- 11:57again suggested she may have fallen in the shower.
- 12:01He did that on the 911 call, on the 911 call.
- 12:06And remember, we saw this in the Ellen Greenberg case.
- 12:09We saw this in the Corey Richins case.
- 12:11The 911 call being used as a way to to either provide an alibi or
- 12:18provide some sort of explanation before anybody got there
- 12:24indicate, I'm sorry, investigators also located
- 12:28Lee's. Excuse me.
- 12:32Wow, Gavin. Gavin, what you doing?
- 12:35Gavin? I'm I'm supposed to be using
- 12:37Beyond but didn't get to that in time.
- 12:41Investigators also located Lee's passport inside a BMW in the
- 12:47garage in a bag containing clothing and personal items.
- 12:52So he was getting ready to go on the run.
- 12:55A Tennessee Department of Corrections and Parole officer
- 12:58testified that Lee had been on probation for an aggravated
- 13:03assault with a deadly weapon conviction in Florida.
- 13:06She said Lee moved to Tennessee without approval from his
- 13:09probation office, violating the terms of his supervision.
- 13:12This guy is a winner, man. This guy is a winner.
- 13:17Here's mugshot #2 Mr. Lee. District Attorney Cody Wamp
- 13:24argued Lee posed a significant risk and should not receive bond
- 13:29quote. This case is extremely unique
- 13:31when it comes to all the bond factors.
- 13:33Wamp said. Wamp detailed Lee's prior felony
- 13:37convictions in Florida and Ohio. I think he did play at Ohio
- 13:42State. The Ohio State University
- 13:47continuing and said he was required to attend anger
- 13:50management classes as part of his probation.
- 13:53She noted that if Lee had completed those classes, his
- 14:00probation would have ended three days after Perpetua's death.
- 14:05The defense the defense asked the court to set bond.
- 14:09Hamilton County Criminal Court Judge Torrey Smith denied bond,
- 14:13ruling Lee will remain in custody.
- 14:15During the hearing, Wamps said this case has two aggravating
- 14:20factors that would qualify for the DP.
- 14:24She told us after the hearing the DA's office hasn't made the
- 14:27decision yet if they will pursue the death penalty in this case.
- 14:32This case follows a previous incident in 2023 in Dublin, OH,
- 14:37where records show Lee pushed a woman and punched her in the
- 14:39face multiple times. Wamp said his probation is still
- 14:45active for the Ohio case as well.
- 14:47Lee remains in custody as the case moves forward.
- 14:52Tell me what you think of this guy.
- 14:54Tell me what you think of this guy in the live chat.
- 14:56I Wow. So he's on probation in two
- 15:00different states, in Ohio and in Florida, and he finally doesn't
- 15:06stop himself or isn't stopped before the ultimate act is done.
- 15:16Wow. That's just, it's
- 15:19unconscionable, right? These kinds of things I see a
- 15:24lot. I go into court, I'll go for
- 15:27hearings. Sometimes I'll, I'll cover an
- 15:28entire day of hearings. I'll sit down and, you know, the
- 15:32court, the the judge, the lawyers, the probation officers,
- 15:37everybody involved in there, the bailiffs and the sheriff's, they
- 15:42all will treat everybody with great respect.
- 15:44And a a defense attorney doing his job or her job, we'll say to
- 15:51a judge, you know what, judge, we definitely should get bond on
- 15:55this person. Yes, he has a criminal record.
- 15:58Yes, he has three aggravated assault convictions.
- 16:01Yeah. But you know what?
- 16:02He has people depending on him. And the court will go, you know
- 16:06what people are depending on him.
- 16:08His job is what keeps a roof over the house.
- 16:10So I'm going to do, you know, whatever a, you know, some light
- 16:19bond, right, some non monetary bond.
- 16:24You can, you can do the, the what's it called the work
- 16:29release program. And they give these guys and
- 16:32gals, it's mostly guys these lenient, like trying to give
- 16:36them every opportunity in the world.
- 16:39And listen, I mean, I understand both sides of this.
- 16:43I I live in a county that incarcerates people at a crazy
- 16:50high rate. Crazy high compared to
- 16:56everywhere else it seems. And I get not wanting to just
- 17:01incarcerate people. But dude, this guy, this guy
- 17:05right here is on probation for assault in the states of Ohio
- 17:12and Florida before he ultimately and allegedly it's not been
- 17:17proven in a court of law. He but he is charged with the
- 17:20murder of this beautiful young woman.
- 17:25Like how many, how many chances are we going to to give?
- 17:34Right? What are you guys saying over
- 17:38here? Let me, let me just kind of go
- 17:42through here. Kentucky Granny says I have
- 17:46family that live there, a quaint small town.
- 17:49But Yikes. This was awful.
- 17:51Awful. Yeah, it is me scrolling down.
- 17:57I did see a couple, Robert. The ruse, says Gavin.
- 18:01Yet another example of traumatic brain injury rage in a football
- 18:05player and a previous DV charge probably not taken seriously
- 18:09enough. Yeah, exactly what I was saying.
- 18:11Right? I'm sure you shared that before
- 18:14I said that. Real happy.
- 18:15He was a ticking time bomb, in my opinion, Gavin.
- 18:20Yeah, it's it's just absolutely crazy that that this guy, that
- 18:34this guy was allowed to be out. He's on probation twice.
- 18:40OK, so that brings us to a an updated, albeit dated.
- 18:49I mean, it's about a week old, but an updated article from the
- 18:53AP written by Jonathan Matisse on apnews.com is where I found
- 18:58it. Links are in the description to
- 19:01all of the articles that I'm using tonight.
- 19:05Ex NFL player charged with murder consulted AI before 911
- 19:09call, authorities say Dateline Nashville, TN A former football
- 19:15player who was charged with murder in his girlfriend's death
- 19:19in Tennessee asked an AI bot for advice.
- 19:26Excuse me on what to do about a woman's injuries and what the
- 19:31signs of a fall are. Before he called 911,
- 19:35authorities said in court. New York Jets first round draft
- 19:40pick Darren Lee's conversations with ChatGPT about Gabriella
- 19:45Gabriella Perpetuo started on February 4th, the day before
- 19:50first responders went to a home in Ultawa, Chattanooga suburb
- 19:55for a call of CPR in progress and found her already deceased,
- 19:59according to messages displayed by prosecutors during the court
- 20:03hearing on Monday. Yeah, they, they, they displayed
- 20:08it in the hearing. The full on ChatGPT
- 20:12conversations. The AI Well, let's see.
- 20:15Lee faces charges of first degree murder and of tampering
- 20:19with or fabricating evidence. He's being held in jail without
- 20:22bond. The AI inquiries shown in a
- 20:26Chattanooga courtroom did not admit wrongdoing and in one
- 20:32instance, Lee calls the injuries quote self-inflicted. close
- 20:37quote. But the Hamilton County District
- 20:39Attorney Cody Wamp said Lee was using ChatGPT as a legal
- 20:44adviser, asking it quote to basically give him advice on how
- 20:48to cover up your crime scene. Close quote.
- 20:56I need to play it again, guys. It's going to make me feel good.
- 21:07Yeah. Uh huh.
- 21:11Using ChatGPT as his legal advisor, Deputy public defender
- 21:15Mike Little. Poor Mr. Little.
- 21:17Listen, he has to defend this guy and and we need him to have
- 21:22a good defense. So I hope Mr. Little is up for
- 21:24the task. Deputy Public Defender Mike
- 21:26Little, who represented Lee during the hearing, said
- 21:30something happened, but we don't know what happened.
- 21:34The judge found probable cause to advance the case.
- 21:37Yeah, I'd say so. Right.
- 21:40In one of the messages displayed by prosecutors, Lee says quote
- 21:45don't know what to do right now. Fiance did her crazy thing again
- 21:50and now she's messed up. I wake up and she has two
- 21:54swollen eyes. I didn't do anything
- 21:56self-inflicted. She stabbed herself, slit her
- 22:00eye. I don't know.
- 22:01But she isn't waking or responding.
- 22:04What do I do? Tell me what you think in the
- 22:09comments. Is he trying to be smart to
- 22:14cover up his crime by showing hey but like establishing a
- 22:20timeline by establishing you know what he was thinking or was
- 22:26he actually looking for legal advice Going I know the chat GP
- 22:29is not ChatGPT isn't going to tell me if I admit that I have
- 22:34that I have done harm to my girlfriend here so I I need to
- 22:38tell it I didn't do anything Like is he dumb or is he Dumber
- 22:45is my question. Oh my goodness.
- 22:50Another Lee message asked the bot what to tell a friend about
- 22:54handling someone non responsive when the friend doesn't want to
- 22:58call police. ChatGPT replied in part quote.
- 23:02Here's exactly what to tell your friend.
- 23:05This is the safest way to handle it without framing it as police
- 23:09trouble. close quote. Lee also asked about physical
- 23:13signs of injury of slip and fall in the bathroom or shower.
- 23:19Lee told deputies that the woman may have fallen in the shower.
- 23:22But according to an arrest affidavit, there were extensive
- 23:26amounts of blood in different areas of the residence that were
- 23:29consistent with Lee's state. And I'm sorry, inconsistent with
- 23:33Lee's statement. Authorities carrying out a
- 23:37search warrant found multiple kinds of trauma to the woman's
- 23:40body, including a stab wound to her abdomen.
- 23:43So this is, this is new information since February 11th.
- 23:51So including a stab wound to her abdomen, an apparent human bite
- 23:55mark on her shoulder, a large bruise on her head, black eyes
- 24:00with heavy swelling and dried blood on her face and neck, the
- 24:04affidavit said. I tried to find the affidavit.
- 24:06I tried to get a hold of it. Wasn't able to do it in time for
- 24:09tonight's live stream. She also had a severe brain
- 24:14injury and a broken neck, A Hamilton County Sheriff's Office
- 24:19detective testified at a prior hearing she had more stab wounds
- 24:23on her legs while wearing pants without cut marks, suggesting
- 24:27the pants were put on afterward, Wamp has said.
- 24:31What? Oh my goodness.
- 24:36And body camera footage shown on.
- 24:39In court Monday, Lee told investigators who responded to
- 24:42the house that he was sleeping a long time before he found his
- 24:46girlfriend unresponsive. I want to call shenanigans on
- 24:54that. I need a shenanigans sound.
- 24:57Wanda, you think you can work on that?
- 24:58Maybe like, I call shenanigans kind of kind of sound effect for
- 25:03that one. Come on.
- 25:06He told investigators he saw her lying on the couch and asked if
- 25:10she wanted anything to eat, and when Perpetua didn't respond, he
- 25:14said he called 911. I thought she was found on the
- 25:17floor topless. Crime scene detectives also
- 25:22identified blood that had been attempted to be cleaned in
- 25:25multiple areas of the house, in addition to cleaning supplies
- 25:29near where testing confirmed blood stains, but no blood was
- 25:33visible, according to an affidavit.
- 25:36Perpetuous Families filed A wrongful death lawsuit against
- 25:40Lee. Wamp has said Lee was on
- 25:43probation in Florida for aggravated assault with a deadly
- 25:47weapon in one county and battery in another, and on probation in
- 25:52Ohio for attempted battery. This guy, man.
- 25:57The 31 year old Lee played 58 games with The Jets, Kansas City
- 26:01and Buffalo from 2016 through the 2020 seasons.
- 26:06The former Ohio State linebacker was the 20th overall pick in
- 26:092016 by The Jets. He was the defensive MVP of the
- 26:132015 Sugar Bowl. Wow.
- 26:21I just, I just, I, I just can't with this guy.
- 26:28I just can't. I cannot believe it that he's on
- 26:33probation for battery, aggravated assault, and
- 26:38attempted battery in three different jurisdictions.
- 26:42What the devil, man? What the actual devil, Terrence,
- 26:47thank you very much for the Super chat.
- 26:49Says I live in Chattanooga. This case is disturbing.
- 26:54And let's see, I saw Jude the tiger.
- 26:58Thank you very much saying come on YouTube, pay the man.
- 27:01I know, man, there's something I need to get better at what I do.
- 27:05I guess I don't know. I don't know.
- 27:07Thank you very much for that super chat.
- 27:09Appreciate that. Let's see a couple of other
- 27:12comments. Teresa says Lee also used the
- 27:16asking for a friend excuse. Ah yes, the old fell in the
- 27:20shower gambit and the asking for a friend excuse.
- 27:25Scotch's mom says I think he is dumb and Dumber.
- 27:31Yeah, blood in every room except one face palm.
- 27:36Indeed. UNC Tar Heel says Dumber for
- 27:40sure. And yeah, yes, he's dumb as a
- 27:45rocks his black widower, poor Gabriella to go through that
- 27:54Real happy. Says there's no defending his
- 27:56conversations with AI in my opinion.
- 27:58I'm telling you that this is the new, this is the new forensic
- 28:04Shangri-La Man. Just all the digital stuff.
- 28:10It is the modern version of fingerprints and DNA.
- 28:15It is, it is the latest thing that I mean, people are just
- 28:18absolutely stupid. JRE says Gavin.
- 28:24Are there prisons under prisons? Because that's where this guy
- 28:27belongs. Yeah, yeah.
- 28:31Crazy. Just Ducky, Ducky.
- 28:39Ducky, Ducky. No, this is funny.
- 28:41Like, we take victims seriously. We take crime seriously.
- 28:46We take victims families seriously, but we don't take
- 28:50ourselves seriously, Ducky says. I guess they thought playing for
- 28:55those teams was punishment enough.
- 29:01Mooney. So slip in the shower, but blood
- 29:04in every room? Yikes.
- 29:06Yeah, I don't just wow, just wow.
- 29:13So we're going to have to keep our eye on this one.
- 29:15This is one that I definitely am going to keep up on the old
- 29:19Stream Deck so that I have the buttons ready when when I need
- 29:24something. But yeah, that's what we've got
- 29:29for today. So let's.
- 29:31But it's not all. It's not all.
- 29:33Don't say Gavin. What?
- 29:34We're done. Half an hour.
- 29:35No, guys, we got other segments. We got other segments of the
- 29:39show. And by the way, I was talking
- 29:40with Kimberly. Are there other ideas for fun
- 29:44segments? I'm enjoying the whole 3
- 29:45questions and headlines thing. I hope you guys are too.
- 29:48Speaking of which, let's get on into three headlines, shall we?
- 29:58Guys, in this segment, I answer three of your questions.
- 30:02My favorite kinds of questions are the ones where not only can
- 30:06I answer them, but you can answer them too.
- 30:08And I think I got a couple of those today.
- 30:11You can send your questions to three questions at
- 30:13gavinfish.com. It's spelled out THREE questions
- 30:15at gavinfish.com. And I will endeavor to do my
- 30:19best to honestly to completely answer your questions, whether
- 30:24they are deep and serious or just, you know, probing of my
- 30:29personality and past and, or past.
- 30:33I guess so, yeah. And Mooney is saying Gavin is
- 30:39Javi, is Javi on vacation right now.
- 30:43Obviously, I'm pushing the wrong buttons here.
- 30:47Javi is not on vacation. He has toggles and switches and
- 30:53a few buttons, but I I don't know, maybe I'm a control freak.
- 30:57I'm a micromanager. I have, I have my buttons as
- 31:00well. I have these buttons.
- 31:03I have these buttons and it's time for me to get another live
- 31:07stream. I'm going to have three.
- 31:09I'm sorry, Stream Deck. I'm going to have three of them
- 31:10in front of me here pretty soon. Yeah, but maybe I do need to
- 31:15hand over some of the button pushing responsibilities to Javi
- 31:20for sure. OK, question #1 where is the
- 31:26question number one comes in from?
- 31:27See me question is this is a hypothetical.
- 31:32If you were physically able, would you rather climb Everest
- 31:36or deep dive and tour the Titanic?
- 31:41Well, this actually, this isn't that hard of a question for me.
- 31:43I'm, I'm, I love the mountains. Grew up in the Rockies right
- 31:48until I was about 8:00 and then spent all my summers there, all
- 31:51my winters there. Love the Rockies, I love the
- 31:54mountains, but I don't get the whole drive to climb Everest.
- 31:59I I just do not get it. I now I have a cousin who made
- 32:06it all the way up to base camp and I think second base camp and
- 32:11was on the list to go up to summit Everest when there was an
- 32:16earthquake. This was several years ago and
- 32:18she ended up being stranded there.
- 32:20I she's a lovely and delightful person, but cuckoo, Why would
- 32:25you want to climb that mountain? I don't get it.
- 32:28I don't get it. So for me, it's all about
- 32:30Titanic. I have been fascinated with
- 32:35Titanic since I was a little kid.
- 32:37Anytime there was a report due on something, I would find a
- 32:42Titanic book until I got into aviation.
- 32:45So I was like till about fourth grade, it was Titanic, Titanic,
- 32:49Titanic. That is I, I would love to see
- 32:53it. Now, I I do have some, I guess I
- 33:00have some, some deal Breakers that would make it so that I, I
- 33:06wouldn't go on an expedition. For example, if I were to get
- 33:09into a submarine that was going to take me down to the bottom of
- 33:14the ocean to look at Titanic, if I saw like an Xbox or a
- 33:19PlayStation controller in there controlling the submarine, I
- 33:22would not take that. No, I would not do that.
- 33:27So yeah, that is my answer to that question.
- 33:31You guys tell me your answer as well.
- 33:33I don't know, maybe I'm, maybe I'm, I just don't like climbing
- 33:36mountains. I've got an uncle who's all
- 33:38about climbing mountains. You know you'd like travels all
- 33:41over the place to climb these and and he is a delightful,
- 33:47wonderful man. Also cuckoo.
- 33:50Why, why are you climbing mountains?
- 33:53I don't know. You know, when you're out in
- 33:55nature, to paraphrase a friend of mine, when you're out in
- 34:00nature, it's either going to be too wet, too dry, too hot, too
- 34:06cold. You know where it is perfect.
- 34:09My living room question #2 what pesky bug do you hate the most
- 34:18from Arua? This is interesting question.
- 34:21I hear. I will tell you an interesting
- 34:24thing about me. I while it was not true as a
- 34:31young person, it, I don't know how this happened.
- 34:34I talked to a friend of mine who's a pathologist.
- 34:37She's an MD and she's really, really smart.
- 34:40But this is what happened to me. I used to be extremely reactive
- 34:45to mosquito bites. Then I go down to Argentina, I
- 34:51spend 2 years down there getting bit by all these South American
- 34:55bugs and I get back to the United States couple years later
- 35:01and I do not get mosquito bites. I just don't get them.
- 35:05And, and I try sometimes like it if we're in a place with
- 35:08mosquitoes, I'll watch them land on me.
- 35:10I'll let them, you know, bite me.
- 35:11I won't, I won't do anything about it.
- 35:13I don't get mosquito bites. I think in the let's see, I got
- 35:17back in 1997. So in the 29 years that I have
- 35:24been home from my mission to Argentina, I think I've gotten
- 35:27maybe 3 mosquito bites. So the peskiest bugs to me are
- 35:33the ones that go by my ear and drive me crazy.
- 35:37I don't like that. But as far as like bug bites,
- 35:41stuff like that, I don't care. There were some cool bugs down
- 35:45in South America, these giant wolf spiders that I loved.
- 35:48They were like burrowing spiders that would create these traps
- 35:52and they would, they would hunt small animals like frogs, mice
- 35:58and birds. I thought they were the coolest
- 36:01thing. So yeah, the pesky bugs I hate
- 36:04the most, the ones that go by my ear and and just drive me crazy.
- 36:08They bug me. They bug me.
- 36:10All right. Question #3 you guys tell me
- 36:12what your answer to that question is.
- 36:13Question #3 is from Kate. What is the first book you
- 36:18remember reading yourself without help?
- 36:21Not for school. Just a book you read for
- 36:23pleasure or interest on your own.
- 36:26Mine was where the wild things are.
- 36:28Huh. Well, that's a good one to start
- 36:32with. You guys tell me what your first
- 36:34book was. I I had the benefit of growing
- 36:39up with a writer dad and, you know, back in the day before
- 36:48before the Internet. Wanda, can we get a little, you
- 36:53know, nostalgia music? You're going here.
- 36:54Thank you. Back in the day, before the
- 36:56Internet, when people would have to have like encyclopedias in
- 37:02their house, and before books were more like decorations in
- 37:06people's houses, our house was a house with books.
- 37:12My dad's study always he had a library.
- 37:16And then in the living room there were more books, and in
- 37:19the family room there were more books.
- 37:21And like my dad was in is an avid reader, an avid writer,
- 37:27published off 3rd 3 or 4 times over.
- 37:32So I was surrounded by books and it's kind of like, I don't
- 37:36remember the first I I don't remember learning to drive a
- 37:41car, for example. I just have always been able to
- 37:45drive. I think it's because from the
- 37:46time I was a toddler, I was, I was, you know, shifting.
- 37:50I was sitting on the bench seat in the truck and I was shifting
- 37:53gears And when the truck was in combine out in the fields to
- 37:57clear rocks of a field or something like that, I would be
- 37:59the little kid, you know, steering the the truck, turning
- 38:04it, going it like a mile and 1/2 an hour.
- 38:05I've just always known how to drive.
- 38:10I don't remember ever learning it.
- 38:12I do not remember my first book. I just was always reading and I
- 38:19do remember my favorite series of books my dad had in his
- 38:24library. He had several shelves that were
- 38:29that were sets of books for us kids to read.
- 38:34And you know, I should. Oh, it's outside the office.
- 38:39I've found a couple of my of my early books, but and I have them
- 38:44in a in a container outside the door of my office.
- 38:47But in this set that I'm particularly thinking of, each
- 38:52book was only about 5 inches tall, maybe about four.
- 38:56In fact, it was probably about the same size, A4 by 5 negative.
- 38:59They were very small, but they were thick and they were stories
- 39:02of the Old West. So it's like Bat Masterson,
- 39:05Billy the Kid, Wild Bill, Buffalo Bill Baz.
- 39:12Oh, I am. I just want to say Lerman at
- 39:15this point, but Baz, I'm blanking out.
- 39:18But Wyatt Earp, just all the old cowboy stories and I devoured
- 39:23those books. I loved them.
- 39:25So. But if I were to think of maybe
- 39:29the now that now that I've been talking this through, who is the
- 39:33author of this? Let me look it up.
- 39:36It's a classic book. Jean Craighead George I remember
- 39:47reading My Side of the Mountain. I think I did that in school,
- 39:54but I was doing it for fun, I think.
- 39:56I think I did do a book report on it.
- 39:59But My Side of the Mountain is a 1950s novel about a boy who runs
- 40:05away from the city and lives on his own, learning to survive in
- 40:10the wilderness and And I love that book.
- 40:16Now as an adult, I don't read very much fiction.
- 40:20Fact you guys know I'm on a mission this year to read 6
- 40:25classics. I have so far this year read A
- 40:30Tale of Two Cities of Mice and Men and To Kill a Mockingbird.
- 40:37I'm moving on. I'm actually working on Martine
- 40:40Fiero right now, which is an Argentine classic, but but I
- 40:44think I'll probably be moving on to Fahrenheit 451 because
- 40:47Martine Fiero I I just have to take in spurts.
- 40:50It's tough. But anyway, a great question,
- 40:53Kate. I love it and I love that yours
- 40:55was why where the wild things are.
- 40:57What a terrific book. And I can't wait to hear the
- 41:00others that the other answers to the questions that you guys have
- 41:06in the chat. But before we do that, let's
- 41:11move on to headlines, shall we? True crime headlines.
- 41:23OK, just to keep us up to date in the world of true crime, I
- 41:27just thought I'd bring you a couple of these headlines, this
- 41:30one written by Sofia Sami Ali and News Nation.
- 41:34What happens after Utah mom's guilty murder verdict?
- 41:39Utah mother Cory Richens was found guilty of aggravated
- 41:42murder this week. Jury convicted her on all
- 41:46counts. She's slated for sentencing in
- 41:48May Richens faces 25 years to life in prison, with sentencing
- 41:52to be decided by Judge Richard Mrazek, who presided over the
- 41:56trial. Nathan Evershed, a former Utah
- 42:00prosecutor and defense attorney, said the judge will review a
- 42:04probation report here from attorneys and victim impact
- 42:06statements from Eric Richard's family before determining
- 42:10whether she will receive life without parole or a sentence
- 42:13that includes the possibility of parole.
- 42:15There will be multiple people from Mr. Richard's family.
- 42:18I would imagine his father, sister, others would be telling
- 42:20the court what this has meant to them.
- 42:23He said the only question is if there's a chance of her possibly
- 42:27having parole some decades from now.
- 42:33Let's see. After sentencing, Richmond's
- 42:35legal team is expected to begin the appeals process.
- 42:38Evershed said preparing A credible, thorough appeal can
- 42:42take up to a year as attorneys review and compile evidence.
- 42:44So lot is going to happen in the quarry.
- 42:48Richmond's case next in the Nancy Guthrie case.
- 42:53This written by Anthony Blair for the New York Post Sheriff
- 42:58leading Nancy Guthrie investigation faces massive
- 43:02recall effort from furious locals Chris Nanos, the sheriff
- 43:08in charge of the Nancy Guthrie investigation, is facing a
- 43:11massive recall drive from furious locals after the
- 43:14Democrat embarrassed the county, The Post can reveal.
- 43:18Daniel Boutierrez, a Republican congressional candidate,
- 43:21confirmed that he has already initiated the lengthy recall
- 43:25process. He said he has 500 volunteers
- 43:29working to collect signatures to oust Nanos from office.
- 43:32Quote, This is a bipartisan effort.
- 43:34It's not like we're trying to get signatures from one party or
- 43:37the other, Gutierrez told The Post from his home in Pima
- 43:40County, Quote. He has been an embarrassment to
- 43:45Tucson and to Pima County with this Nancy Guthrie case, he
- 43:48said, adding that last week's allegations that the sheriff
- 43:51lied Underoath about his employment history were the
- 43:54final straw. Quote, everyone's pretty
- 43:57disgusted, Democrats and Republicans, Gutierrez added.
- 44:02So yeah, I think what do they need?
- 44:09They need about 120,000 signatures, he says.
- 44:13I'm probably going to go for 135,000 right now.
- 44:17We have almost 500 volunteers to get this who want to get the
- 44:20signatures and five notaries to notarize the pages for everyone.
- 44:23So that's what's happening there.
- 44:26Emmy, I saw you bring this up in the chat.
- 44:30Ashley Buzzard makes 1st court appearance after two no shows.
- 44:33This at keyt.com by Jared Zinn. This one from today, Lompoc, CA
- 44:41Ashley Buzzard appeared in court today after she failed to appear
- 44:44in the last two hearings. Under advisement from Buzzard's
- 44:49public defender Erica Sutherland, Judge Dunkel began
- 44:51Wednesday's hearing by admonishing the media.
- 44:54Dunkle reiterated the press's restrictions to still photos
- 44:57only and prohibited any photos of her in handcuffs or appearing
- 45:02to be in custody. OK, so her next court appearance
- 45:07is April 1st where a ruling will be made on a motion.
- 45:13Erica Sutherland made the motion that the evidence records she
- 45:16received be sealed from the public.
- 45:19So we will see on April 1st, just a couple of weeks from now
- 45:24whether or not that motion will pass.
- 45:26And then finally today. This one was brought up to me by
- 45:30a friend of mine. This is not a case that we have
- 45:34been following, but this just boggled the old brain.
- 45:41This from KTBX Alleged killer bragged about burying missing
- 45:45woman under his garage. Tyngsboro, Mass.
- 45:50The remains of a woman missing for more than a year have
- 45:53tentatively been located after her alleged murderer recently
- 45:58bragged about the killing to a friend, authorities said.
- 46:02The Middlesex County DA's office in Massachusetts announced on
- 46:05Tuesday that 40 year old Sean Sullivan was arrested by
- 46:08Tyngsboro Police and charged with murder, assault and battery
- 46:11with a dangerous weapon causing serious bodily injury and
- 46:14improper disposal of human remains.
- 46:18Speaking at a press conference, District Attorney Marion Ryan
- 46:21and Tyngsboro Police Chief Sean Woods said the case took a
- 46:25recent turn when the Nashua Police Department in New
- 46:29Hampshire was contacted by a possible homicide.
- 46:32The caller reported that Sullivan allegedly told him he
- 46:35had shot and killed a woman named Jill at his home in
- 46:38Tyngsboro in or around January 2025 and had buried her under
- 46:43the floor of his garage. Searching a missing persons
- 46:47database, Nashville police learned Jill Kloppenburg was
- 46:51reported missing to Tewkesbury Law enforcement in Massachusetts
- 46:54in February of 2025. Investigators further learned
- 46:58Sullivan knew Kloppenburg and that she had been in his home
- 47:01and was with him around the time of her disappearance.
- 47:05There is Jill. Anyway, they executed a warrant.
- 47:10They spotted what appeared to be a large patched area in the
- 47:14garage. Ground penetrating radar
- 47:16confirmed an area of the garage had been cut and patched.
- 47:20After cutting through the floor, investigators discovered a bag
- 47:23containing human remains. The identity of the victim has
- 47:27not yet been positively confirmed.
- 47:29The remains were transferred to the Emmys office, which will
- 47:33make an identification along with determining the cause and
- 47:36manner of death. And they're asking anyone with
- 47:39information about the case to contact Massachusetts State
- 47:41Police at 781 897-8300. And I just thought that I would
- 47:48bring you that story. There's so many just Dell holes
- 47:50in the world, guys. So many.
- 47:53All right, let's find out what you guys are saying to the
- 47:55answers of three questions. Let me let me come on up here.
- 48:00Wow, a lot of comments here. Just ducky says I would love to
- 48:06see the Titanic. Jude the Tiger says I'm with you
- 48:09there Gavin, Probably about the whole nature thing.
- 48:13Nature is for the birds, man. Miss Chivo's dragon.
- 48:17If I were physically able and had to choose between Everest
- 48:20and Titanic, I think I'd injure myself.
- 48:22Instead. Teresa says no way.
- 48:28I go down in a sub to view Titanic for the same reason as
- 48:31you. I love water, but that is too
- 48:33deep for me. Jules says Gavin, you don't
- 48:38smell right. Think I think I'm OK.
- 48:42I I'm wearing a dashing Cologne, Aqua de Joe.
- 48:48I should be smelling OK. That's funny.
- 48:50Scotch's mom, RFK climbed Everett before he died.
- 48:54I'm glad he got to before his untimely death.
- 48:58Scotch's mom says I hate mosquitoes.
- 49:01Mischievous Dragon hates the fire ants.
- 49:05And Mooney says Where the Wild Things Are is the best book
- 49:09ever. Maurice Sendak, you know, Where
- 49:13the Wild Things Are Never, never spoke to me.
- 49:19But it's a classic, right? I think it's a Newberry Prize
- 49:22winner. Yeah, I I think, I can't
- 49:26remember. I'm trying to think of, like,
- 49:28the badge on our copy of it. I think so, Miss Chivo's dragon
- 49:33said we went to the library a lot when I was a kid.
- 49:38So maybe bread and jam for Francis or make way for
- 49:41ducklings. Nice Teresa first book Winnie
- 49:44the Pooh first chapter books was Hardy Boys.
- 49:47Love it. Let's see mine.
- 49:51Scotch's mom says mine was Are you their God?
- 49:53It's Me Margaret by Judy Blume in the 4th grade.
- 49:56Judy Blume books were amazing. I loved, I loved it when our
- 50:00teachers read Judy Blume to us. Good, good stuff, Diane Faris
- 50:06says. I climb Everest.
- 50:08The Titanic is too emotional for me.
- 50:11What about all of the, all of the failed, frozen, dead bodies
- 50:17of attempted climbers of Everest that you passed on pass on the
- 50:23way up? It just, I mean, I get it.
- 50:25I get it. I just, I just don't I Robin
- 50:31says crusade in jeans. I love that book.
- 50:35Jude the Tiger says treat yourself to the Count of Monte
- 50:38Cristo. I I have not ever read Dumas So
- 50:46and I think I probably should And, and honestly I have been
- 50:50enjoying this little time reading some classics.
- 50:55I don't know, Dumas thing though.
- 50:57I mean, I was really glad to, to read A Tale of Two Cities, but I
- 51:01don't think that I'll read Dickens ever again.
- 51:04I, I, it was beautiful. It was beautiful, but it was
- 51:08like torture for, for like, I don't know, 75% of the book.
- 51:15And then everything started falling into place and I was
- 51:17told by a publisher that Dickens get got paid by the word.
- 51:23So that's why he was so verbose. Was Dumas like that?
- 51:27Should I Should I dig into Dumas?
- 51:28I don't know. Let me keep on going.
- 51:34My grandchildren have bookcases in their bedrooms full of books.
- 51:38Also in the den. They all take books to read in
- 51:41the car with their parents. That's delightful.
- 51:43I love it. I love it.
- 51:47Any other comments? Oh, Robin says you don't smell
- 51:51right For the mosquitoes. No, the mosquitoes bite me.
- 51:54They they continue to bite me. I just don't have a reaction
- 51:58anymore. And I talked to my pathologist
- 52:00friend who said, yeah, it's possible that you just developed
- 52:04a a resistance to whatever it is that mosquitoes put in US when
- 52:09when they bite us, it's funny. I would recommend go visit
- 52:13Volcanoes National Park, says Emmy, rather than Everest or the
- 52:19Titanic. Yeah.
- 52:20You know, guys in the state of Utah, there is one that people
- 52:26don't people, people go to the big ones.
- 52:30They go to Arches, right? They go to Moab.
- 52:34But how many people go to Goblin Valley?
- 52:37Goblin Valley is amazing there. There are lots of great places.
- 52:43The awards for children's books are the Caldecott Medal.
- 52:45So maybe there's a Caldecott that that it won.
- 52:49Robert, the ruse says I try War and Peace because it would count
- 52:52for six books. But you might die from boredom
- 52:54first. Yeah, I'm just not into Tolstoy,
- 52:57man. And Emmy saying I'm currently
- 53:01reading the Amanda Knox book. Very cool, guys.
- 53:04Thank you so much for sharing that with me.
- 53:07And thanks for joining me today. We will be back tomorrow, 6:00
- 53:12PM Eastern. Before we go, hey, I wanted to
- 53:16share with you guys. Oh, thank you very much.
- 53:19Sevo girl coming in with another super chat.
- 53:21Thank you very much. Sevo girl saying enjoying your
- 53:25detailed analysis of cases. I'm thank you.
- 53:28I'm I'm glad you're enjoying it. I'm glad you're here.
- 53:31Thank you so much. I wanted to show you guys we in
- 53:37the fish tank, which is where we hang out on Facebook.
- 53:40The easiest way to get there is to go to my website
- 53:42gavinfish.com. Click on the little fishy icon
- 53:45in the upper right hand corner that will take you to the fish
- 53:47tank. OK, I posted some pics.
- 53:52Oh myself, I'm going to go ahead and just share these there we go
- 54:00Do you see them there? Sunglasses look at those
- 54:05sunglasses. These were so popular when I was
- 54:11a kid and I wanted them so bad. I wanted them so badly, but I
- 54:18just had AI had an addiction to the Sweet Factory in Sunrise
- 54:22Mall there in Citrus Heights, CA.
- 54:24I would spend all my money at Sweet Factory, like $1.50 or
- 54:28$2.00 at a time. I just could not.
- 54:31I just could not save up enough money to buy a pair of Olympian
- 54:36twos from Ray Ban from Ray Ban. And being in my little nostalgic
- 54:43mood, I was like, I want a pair of these.
- 54:45I didn't know that these were These were first designed and
- 54:48released in 1965. To me, they're iconic 1990s
- 54:52sunglasses. But I found a pair of new, old
- 55:00stock brand spankin new Ray Ban Olympian twos and look at these.
- 55:07They are beautiful and I don't know, I just love them.
- 55:13I, I, I wanted them so badly when I was a kid.
- 55:18Look at these glorious things. This is the kind of stuff that I
- 55:22share in the fish tank. What's funny is like, I don't
- 55:27like gold. I, I don't like gold.
- 55:29I don't like wearing gold. You'll notice that all of my
- 55:32watches are stainless steel. I have one that's I have one
- 55:35that's like a it's like a gun metal grey.
- 55:39But most most of my watches are stainless steel.
- 55:42My my wedding band. I can't remember if it's white
- 55:46gold or platinum. I think it's white gold.
- 55:48But the so I always feel like Liberace when I when I have
- 55:52yellow gold on me. But I think these are the
- 55:55exception. I might have to get I might have
- 55:57to get a watch and a ring that is 2 ton for when I want to wear
- 56:01the sunglasses. But aren't these amazing brand
- 56:05new, Not a mark on them. Got him in the box with the
- 56:09warranty card from 1993. And I'm just so happy about it.
- 56:14And if you guys haven't noticed, I have kind of turned into an
- 56:17eyewear collector. I've got way too many pieces of
- 56:21eyewear. But yeah, I just want to share
- 56:25that. And if, if you're into kind of
- 56:27the personal side of my life, heading over to the fish tank is
- 56:32a good place for that. Also, you know, go into my
- 56:38Facebook page. I typically post on Facebook the
- 56:41the page first and then share into the group.
- 56:44But we got about 6000 people over there in the in the tank.
- 56:49You are always, always, always invited.
- 56:52And lastly, before we go, I just want to give a very special
- 56:56shout out to those of you who support me by watching my
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- 57:10rewatch crew and you are a Spotify user, you can watch this
- 57:15video on Spotify and it really helps the channel.
- 57:18If you do that, it helps me out. And also you can listen to this
- 57:22in podcast form wherever you get your podcasts.
- 57:26I invite you to do that. Does look like we've got a
- 57:30couple last minute comments that I, I, I don't want to miss
- 57:35before we go antis saying Goblin Valley is my favorite.
- 57:38Yeah, it's it's it's the best place.
- 57:40Mental chewing gum says. This is my first time catching
- 57:43you from the USA. I previously watched you from
- 57:45South Africa in the middle of the night, but this is way
- 57:49better. I love your work.
- 57:50Thank you. Well, Mental Chewing Gum.
- 57:52Welcome to the USA. Glad you are here.
- 57:57Robin says pretty sure Liberace had a ton of sparkling stones on
- 58:00his jewelry. Yeah, I just always yellow
- 58:02golden me. We don't match.
- 58:04We don't match, Mooney says. Didn't know Spotify did videos.
- 58:08Yeah, I upload this as a video podcast to Spotify, and then
- 58:13they distribute it as audio everywhere else.
- 58:16All right, guys, I will stop going on and on.
- 58:18Thank you very much for your time for for your interaction.
- 58:24Thank you to the Super chatters. Deeply, deeply appreciate you.
- 58:28We will be back tomorrow at 6:00 PM Eastern Time right here at
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- 58:35Until then, I bid you, I do take care of yourselves.
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