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Are You Mad 'Cause I'm Asking You 21 Questions? · Millennial Mental Health Channel

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to MMHC, your go to mental health podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Eddie Coreo, a licensed professional counselor.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Justin Romano, a Board certified child and adolescent psychiatrist.
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  Speaker 2: We created MMHC to give listeners evidence based information directly
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  Speaker 2: from professionals who work in mental health.
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  Speaker 1: We're not influencers, We're not trying to sell you anything.
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  Speaker 1: We just want to bring love, empathy, and understanding of
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  Speaker 1: mental health into this world.
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  Speaker 2: And we really think that learning about mental health should
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  Speaker 2: be fun, interesting, and most importantly honest.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks for tuning in. This is a show by
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  Speaker 1: two millennials, but it is intended to be for everyone.
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  Speaker 3: We hope you enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to MMHC. We are truly honored that you
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  Speaker 1: decided to join us today. So I spreaker question, Eddie,
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  Speaker 1: how do you want to be remembered when you're gone?
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  Speaker 2: Importantly, did you know that Bubba Sparks is white? You know,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that made Miss New Booty the song? You know?
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I found that out. He made it. There's a
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  Speaker 2: TikTok the other day where he talked about the making
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  Speaker 2: of that song.
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  Speaker 1: Ah wow, I wouldn't have been able to tell you
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  Speaker 1: that it was Bubba Sparks, but.
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  Speaker 2: The whole comment section was like, Bubba Sparks.
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  Speaker 3: Why that's the good news we needed.
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  Speaker 2: This is what we needed something. Bubba Sparks is back. Man,
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  Speaker 2: God bless that guy. How do I want to be
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  Speaker 2: remembered after I'm gone? I like the word genuine, authentic.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I bring that into my my work,
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  Speaker 2: but hopefully into my life too. Fun loving probably would
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  Speaker 2: be part of it, like to laugh and have a
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  Speaker 2: good time. Yeah. I'd actually gotten feedback from one of
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  Speaker 2: my coworkers. Her her son was in our health class presentations,
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  Speaker 2: and I told him like, oh, you should ask him
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  Speaker 2: about them, like make sure he's paying attention, like joking,
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  Speaker 2: and she was like she's like, oh, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he liked it. You know what he he said the
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  Speaker 2: whole time he was waiting for you to like use
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  Speaker 2: your humor because he knows how you are. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about but I'm like, yeah, I know. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's tough to have humor when you're doing a suicide
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  Speaker 2: prevention presentation. I mean so, but yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 2: think those I think those things. What do you think.
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  Speaker 3: Cool like professionally?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to be known and remembered as
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  Speaker 1: like someone who was able to connect with people, able
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  Speaker 1: to get people help, able to make this world a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a better place.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure that'd be great.
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  Speaker 1: But deep down, what I want more than anything is
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  Speaker 1: just to be remembered as a good dad and a
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  Speaker 1: good husband. I think he had a family. Stuff is
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that I really want more than anything. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So the icebreaker question was intentionally deep because we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about depth in conversation today because there was a
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  Speaker 1: recent article on the BBC that was titled shortcut to
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  Speaker 1: close bonds, ask Meaningful Questions by David Robson.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's clickbaity, I know, yeah, which is usually not BBC.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the queen went out for a drive and
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  Speaker 1: hit four pigeons in the call.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember that one. That was a good one,
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  Speaker 2: that was a good article.
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  Speaker 3: It was those pigeons were trying to get her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh what did the articles say? What they talk about?
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  Speaker 3: So essentially, this.
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  Speaker 1: Was an article that was summarizing a study that had
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  Speaker 1: been done on kids. These young people had rated their
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  Speaker 1: feelings of closeness with their parents before and after their
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  Speaker 1: parents asked them deep, meaningful questions, and the results showed
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  Speaker 1: that kids felt a deeper connection and more love from
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  Speaker 1: their parents after their conversations. After one conversation, they rated
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  Speaker 1: their connections and love towards their parents even higher.
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  Speaker 3: So it was pretty powerful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's anytime I've been asked shout out
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  Speaker 2: to coin am extra, but anytime I've talked about like
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  Speaker 2: things like in an interview or anything like that, when
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  Speaker 2: you get asked like how do we what can parents
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  Speaker 2: do at home to help with their kids or have
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  Speaker 2: a deeper connection with their kids, I go back to
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  Speaker 2: kind of that it's just having conversation, and I always
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  Speaker 2: preface it with like, way easier said than done. It's
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  Speaker 2: super easy to be like, yeah, just talk to your
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  Speaker 2: kids when they're home, Like, but there's way more that
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  Speaker 2: goes into that mom, dad, caregiver, guardian. They all have
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  Speaker 2: work or whatever they're doing that takes their day, right
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  Speaker 2: that takes up their time. They're busy, They're tired. Life
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  Speaker 2: is tired. Life right now is super tired. This has
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  Speaker 2: been the longest ten years I've ever had in nine months.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like it's one of those things where like
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  Speaker 2: it's a very easy answer, but it can be super
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  Speaker 2: hard to execute. So just like parents and caregivers, guardians
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  Speaker 2: are tired, have a long day. Kids, same thing, right,
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  Speaker 2: especially in school. I'm in school with them every single day.
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  Speaker 2: They're here eight nine hours a day, all their classes
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then they have extracurriculars and then
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  Speaker 2: they have jobs and they're just tired. And if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't had that as like a habit that we have
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  Speaker 2: these conversations that we talk, it's hard to start it up.
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  Speaker 2: And I say that to also add that it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to start it up. But I think it is one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that you can build on. It's like
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  Speaker 2: a skill you can build on being able to have
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  Speaker 2: that so that your kids start to expect like at
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  Speaker 2: the dinner table, we're talking. At the when we're sitting
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  Speaker 2: on the couch with each other, we're able to talk
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  Speaker 2: and it's just a normalized thing. But we've gotten used
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  Speaker 2: to this, like kind of what is it shifts in
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  Speaker 2: the night, we're just kind of passing each other, not
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  Speaker 2: really connecting. We get used to that and then it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to jump into those conversations when we're just not
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  Speaker 2: used to having them all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've worked with so many families who oftentimes
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  Speaker 1: the child in the situation feels like it's an interrogation,
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  Speaker 1: but the parents are like, we're.
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  Speaker 3: Having time to talk, I'm gonna ask.
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  Speaker 1: You about your day, and you're gonna tell me about it,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like, okay, well that's not really gonna
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  Speaker 1: be that helpful either. So there's got to be a
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  Speaker 1: little give and take. There's got to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of vulnerability on the parents side too. I saw
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  Speaker 1: something recently that if you want your kids to talk
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  Speaker 1: about their day, start by telling a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: your day, saying, hey, I had a stressful situation at
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  Speaker 1: work and I didn't know what to do, but hey,
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  Speaker 1: we were able to resolve it, like I'm glad the
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  Speaker 1: day went.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, how is your day?
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's so much more disarming than just like
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  Speaker 1: what'd you do today at school?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I joke with one of my coworkers kids, I
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  Speaker 2: always ask them what'd you learn today? Just put them
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  Speaker 2: on the spot, And then then I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think I've also been reading. I started
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  Speaker 2: this book. It was it's not like not like a
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  Speaker 2: fun book, but it's like informational, right, what do you
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  Speaker 2: even call it? Can I call it a textbook? It's
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  Speaker 2: not really a textbook. It's a nonfiction. It's a nonfiction
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  Speaker 2: mental health counseling book, and it's motivational interviewing in schools.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm on the section where they're talking about like
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  Speaker 2: open ended questions, right, yeah, like the importance of like
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  Speaker 2: open ended questions, Yes, are super important and impactful, but
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like an art form of like bringing in
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  Speaker 2: the open ended with the with the close ended questions. Right.
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  Speaker 2: If you just open ended, it's like, god, damn, how
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  Speaker 2: much you I'm going to answer? Right, Like what are
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  Speaker 2: you looking for? But if you can sprinkle in some
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  Speaker 2: of that like you know, open with close ended, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of helps to build the conversation, to normalize that
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  Speaker 2: that give and take, like you said, of conversation for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think this is really meaningful for society
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  Speaker 1: because it feels like there has been such a shift
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  Speaker 1: in our society that people are so ideologically and politically
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  Speaker 1: different these days, or at least social media makes us
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  Speaker 1: think that we're very different these days that it seems
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people are very afraid to go
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  Speaker 1: into deep conversation. I think a lot of people want
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  Speaker 1: to keep it superficial to avoid any topics that could
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  Speaker 1: potentially get people.
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  Speaker 3: Mad or pissed off.
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  Speaker 1: And so a lot of times all of our our interactions.
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  Speaker 3: Are just so surface level.
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  Speaker 1: So healthy relationships are one of the most important elements
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  Speaker 1: of mental health. And we've said it on the show
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  Speaker 1: before it we're gonna say it again in the future.
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  Speaker 1: So we wanted to lead by example, answer some deep
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  Speaker 1: questions to get you our loving audience some ideas of
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  Speaker 1: how you can strengthen the connections and bonds with family
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  Speaker 1: and friends, to really learn how to ask some deep questions.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is one thing where you can
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  Speaker 1: get some good guides. You know that in the past,
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  Speaker 1: my wife and I got a big deck of like
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  Speaker 1: mindfulness questions.
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  Speaker 3: And they were really awesome.
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  Speaker 1: We tried to do like one per night and it
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  Speaker 1: was going really well, and then, of course, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we forgot about it and we haven't looked at him
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  Speaker 1: in a long long time. But those types of things
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  Speaker 1: really helped and I felt more connected to her than ever,
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  Speaker 1: and it's so much more meaningful than just sitting on
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  Speaker 1: your phone, sitting next to each other with a movie
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  Speaker 1: on in the background, to actually be able to dive
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  Speaker 1: into each other's minds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think too. We just to your point
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  Speaker 2: of like the phones and scrolling like we're we're just
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  Speaker 2: kind of it's it's like a crutch at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Like you think back in the day you had like
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  Speaker 2: an undergrad party, and there's always like the jokes that
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  Speaker 2: you're standing in the corner just like checking the weather
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  Speaker 2: app because you don't want to like look around or
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  Speaker 2: start a conversation with people. I think this is an
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  Speaker 2: issue that's gone on for a lot longer than just
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  Speaker 2: our current children right our current ends and teens. It
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  Speaker 2: extends to us too. I've definitely been part of the issue.
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  Speaker 2: I was it when I went to the doctor recently.
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  Speaker 2: I made a concerted effort to not take out my
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  Speaker 2: phone while I waited that it was a little difficult
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  Speaker 2: because I waited for time. But I think too, we've
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  Speaker 2: just gotten used to that being like it's it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of a crutch at this point. You can you don't
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  Speaker 2: have anything to talk about, or you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to have If you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: talk at all, you just take out my phone. And
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  Speaker 2: that's just the universal sign of like I'm doing something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember growing up, my dad was always just like
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  Speaker 1: striking up conversations with random people all the time. But
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  Speaker 1: you just see that less and less. Like you look
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  Speaker 1: at a bus, you look at an elevator, anywhere. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: just staring down with their phones all the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. I went to get my DQ
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  Speaker 2: test today for my car because the registration was due
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  Speaker 2: later this month, and me and the attendant had a
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  Speaker 2: great conversation about crossbody bags.
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  Speaker 3: It was nice body bags.
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  Speaker 2: He was super into like you know, like people get
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  Speaker 2: like a vanny pack, but they were a cross. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was super into my codea Pacsi bag. Our six
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  Speaker 2: minute interaction was all about it. Now that you bring
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  Speaker 2: this up, it is kind of cool. At least we
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  Speaker 2: talked that cool. Yeah, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't quite sure what you were talking about. I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking, like a cross shaped body bag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have one of those? Is that not
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  Speaker 2: a no?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know maybe in the in the Bible belt
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  Speaker 1: they have those, but well in.
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  Speaker 2: The big war zone that is Portland, Oregon. It's there today,
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  Speaker 2: so deep.
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  Speaker 1: Question number one, what would you say is your life philosophy?
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  Speaker 2: It's hard when you already look at the questions you're like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I could say that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think being authentic caring for others I think is
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  Speaker 2: super important, which I'd be completely honest. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: it in like the Compassion Fatigue episode, Like right now,
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  Speaker 2: it can be really tough to like care about others
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  Speaker 2: and genuinely care about others. It's just so tiring. But
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  Speaker 2: I feel like if I were to come up with
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  Speaker 2: something short like authenticity caring for others, and then like
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  Speaker 2: love for yourself, because if you can love yourself, then
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  Speaker 2: you're in a better position to care about the other
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  Speaker 2: people around you and to love the other people around you.
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  Speaker 2: I think about the super cheesy metaphor of like you're
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  Speaker 2: on an airplane and they tell you if the plane
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  Speaker 2: cabin depressurizes, put your mask on before helping someone else
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  Speaker 2: next to you. It' cheesy, but I tell kids it
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and it hits home a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll keep it short and sweet with those
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  Speaker 2: three things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, never put money before people. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like so much of our society just values money, and
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  Speaker 1: it seems like when we actually measure what life is
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  Speaker 1: like in the United States, the most important measures that
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  Speaker 1: we use are things like gross domestic product GDP, like
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  Speaker 1: measures of money, how much we're producing. And I know
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  Speaker 1: some European countries are trying to move away from that
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  Speaker 1: and try to focus more on like happiness, well being,
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  Speaker 1: quality of life, and so always just trying to keep
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  Speaker 1: in mind that, like, yeah, this is the world we
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  Speaker 1: live in. You have to be able to support yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice being able to make enough money so that
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  Speaker 1: you're not in constant financial stress, but to never get
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  Speaker 1: to the point of greed to that you're sacrificing the
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  Speaker 1: relationships or or hurting people to make more money.
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  Speaker 2: Like it. What is a childhood experience that significantly shaped you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Might have to take a second and think about this one,
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  Speaker 1: because I did write all these, but it was like
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago and I haven't thought about him in
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  Speaker 1: a while. One time, when I was a young person,
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  Speaker 1: I came home. I was with a friend on like
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  Speaker 1: a vacation with him. I came home and my family
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there, and the house was all locked, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like too young to have a key or anything
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  Speaker 1: like that, so I didn't really know what to do.
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  Speaker 1: So I like broke a window and got inside.
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  Speaker 3: Like I didn't shatter the glass.
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  Speaker 2: I just like.
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  Speaker 1: Muscled the window and snapped the mechanism in it and
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  Speaker 1: like pried it open and got inside. That was one
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  Speaker 1: of those like my parents.
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  Speaker 3: Had to be like, justin what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: It was like I pay, I couldn't get in the house.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do, and I found a
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  Speaker 1: window that was slightly open, and so I pulled it.
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  Speaker 1: So learning from that and learning from experiences and to
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  Speaker 1: tie that into kind of the mental health as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: And my friends asked me the other day when they
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  Speaker 1: were all over in the summer. They were like, what's
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  Speaker 1: a common thread that you see amongst young people who
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  Speaker 1: are really struggling with mental health issues? And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I got to say, the kids who
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  Speaker 1: never take responsibility and who are constantly blaming other people
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  Speaker 1: for their mistakes tend to have the worst mental health
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  Speaker 1: because they don't grow, they don't change, They don't learn
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  Speaker 1: from their mistakes. So I think that was a really
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  Speaker 1: good moment for me because I had learned that my
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  Speaker 1: parents forced me to save up for months to pay
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  Speaker 1: for that window, and I was like, you know, ten
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  Speaker 1: nine or ten at the time, So yeah, that was
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  Speaker 1: a good shaping experience.
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  Speaker 2: How about you. Yeah, this is going to be like
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  Speaker 2: super cheesy and be like, oh, typical football player. But
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  Speaker 2: I feel like legitimately, like playing football was a huge
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  Speaker 2: like it just flipped everything for me. I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: play it for a long time. I didn't get the
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  Speaker 2: chance to until I was in seventh grade. In seventh grade,
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty much my first like real opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I really like this, I am not
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  Speaker 2: good at it? What do I need to do to
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  Speaker 2: get better at it? And it was like the constant
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  Speaker 2: like repetition of practice and like just focusing on it
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  Speaker 2: was like really helpful for me. Like that was like
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  Speaker 2: the first time that I remember doing something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also like continue to impact me today of
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  Speaker 2: like the importance of teamwork and like the job that
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  Speaker 2: I've had, like the team has been like the most
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  Speaker 2: important part of it, and like I carry that and
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  Speaker 2: I continue to like how is this going to impact
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  Speaker 2: the team or like where's the team on this? And
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  Speaker 2: like that's been that was like again it really was
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  Speaker 2: like a has changed a lot for me, like seventh
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  Speaker 2: grade on Like that was super helpful and just we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about it before the show. But just again like
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  Speaker 2: being someone that for me, it's like Okay, I'm I
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  Speaker 2: would like to be better at this. That means I
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  Speaker 2: have to do these things. These things kind of suck.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'll do it anyway because it's like it's needed.
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  Speaker 2: Like nobody likes to do conditioning outside of practice and
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  Speaker 2: lift weights when you don't have to, and like nobody
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  Speaker 2: likes to do those things, but it was it was
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  Speaker 2: important for me to do those things so that I
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: could kind of see and thankfully I got to experience.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: I was able to go to my whole career really
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: without any significant drawbacks in terms of injury or anything,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: so I could I could really get to see like
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: how all of that got to play out year after year,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you know, for the ten eleven years that I got
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: to play.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, thank god you didn't have any major injuries.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's Tyreek Hill and completely obliterate your name.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Think there was definitely brutal. There was definitely one time
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: it was like a junior where like my knees just hurt,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: like I was in pain, you know, like, and I
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was an offensive so you got to get down into
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: your stance every play. So it was it was rough.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I remember thinking specifically like this might be my knees
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: might give out. Thankfully they did it, but yeah, I'm
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: very fortunate for that. M cool. This one's tough. So
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'll let you go. But what's one change you'd make
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: to the world if you could?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I know I mentioned it a little bit earlier,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: but I would change the way we measure progress and
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: measure essentially that gross metastick product thing again. Be able
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to switch what our focus is so that we actually
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: put people first instead of money first. And I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: everything would trickle down from there, because I think right now,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: greed and capitalism, I don't know. We've talked about this
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a lot in the country. It's like, to a certain
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: degree it's a good thing, and it's been good for
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: this country, but it seems like it has gone off
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the rails and it is taking advantage of people and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: putting a lot of people in this world and in
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: our country at a sever your disadvantage, so that a
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: select few at the very top can be uber wealthy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: And so I wish we could just change the focus
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: so that we actually put in systems into place to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: take care of people and protect them and not just
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: care about how much money a few people can make.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I have one answer that I want, but we'll skip it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is I just wish I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: wish people would care more about each other. Yeah, like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: it with how not only recent things but just over
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: the last chunk of time in our adult lives have
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: gone historically in our country, it just feels like there's
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: way less caring of other people. And then it gets
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: really tough to when people want you to care about them,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: and then you're just like tired, like I'm just so
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: exhausted of like these shitty things that have happened and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: no one caring. But now I have to care about
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: other people. I don't know, I would say that I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: wish people would care about each other more.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're very much on similar way of
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: lengths there trying to take care of people, be nicer,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: be better.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: As a society.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, any dreams or aspirations you're hiding from others, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: don't think.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So I try not to talk about it too much
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: because I never want to jinx it. But I really
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: do feel like I have like a almost like a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: dream job currently, and so that's really been great in
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: terms of like fulfillment that way, but also what it
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: gives me in terms of like work life balance and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: being able to do things, you know, in my life
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and with Kevy, and I think that's I don't know
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: if I could really ask for much more. I know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I joked with her the other day when the Raiders
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: were there was a close game and we had an
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: opportunity to win and we lost, and I think I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: said something like, you know, sometimes it just feels like
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I don't deserve good day that I that I quickly
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: was like, but then I look at our life and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: then I realized I don't need much. I don't know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: it just you know, get it to do the things
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: that we get to do and enjoy these memories were
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: making and like with the job that I have, like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I really don't know if I can ask for much more.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: It almost feels selfish sometimes to want to ask for more,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I think it's Yeah. I think
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: getting to continue to delive a life where I can
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: make choices here and there is pretty cool. I can't
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I can't ask for much more.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pretty lucky.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got? Well?
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: First, I would like to say it is kind of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: painful to be a Raiders fan. Sometimes sports can beat
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you down.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Man. Thankfully they don't as much as it used to. Yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I've gotten much better at it, but it's still it's
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: not great.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I would say I don't even know if
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I've I've shared this with you too much, but I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: would eventually like to be on a platform where we
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: have like a show talking about mental health and more
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: of a video content where we can do a lot
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of educational stuff.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I think I described it to.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: An old mentor of mine that, like I wanted to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: be like the Bill Ny the science guy for mental health,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Like be the person who has the videos that impacts
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of young people, inspires a lot of young people,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like Neil de grasse Tyson, like Bill Ny the science guy.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: If we could get to a level like that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Where we are the ones who can really shape a
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: lot of young people's lives and make them better. That
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: would be amazing, That would be truly an amazing thing. So,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, if there's any TV executives out there, or shoot,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you know, people making a new YouTube show out there,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: because that's the medium of the future, let us know,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: hit us up and you know, we'll go from there.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: We'll check our email, let us know.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: We're pretty bad at checking our email.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: We check it, we just sometimes forget to respond right away. All.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: We just get so many inquiries.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: It's hard to keep up.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: On real talk though. We do. We we do get
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a bunch of fucking yeah anyway, we do. We get
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: good chunk. We got a good junk.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of people, you know, prophoning books and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: wanting to do wanting to come onto the show to
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: promote their stuff. And sometimes it's kind of hard to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: weed through it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard when it's like it just feels like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a big blast that we got added into and it's
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: not so much like, hey, I really resonated with this.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: We should talk, you know. Yeah, tough, because there's a
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: lot of the other.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: One plus, it feels like the guests that we know
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: personally from our own lives, it just tends to go.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: A little bit better.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Like we've had some great guests that we found, Like
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I think of doctor Matter, the vet that came on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to our show.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: He was awesome.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we've had some super cool ones.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: We've been very lucky.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: But we're going to bring back Isaiah, one of our
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: first guests on the show, so I'm excited to have him.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be on next week. So yeah, always
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a good time to have old friends on the show.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wishing what we got next?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, what's the weirdest thing you've ever done in public?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And this is from twenty one Juicy Questions.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It makes me think of the twenty one Questions songs
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: about fifty it's a good song.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I haven't listened to a lot of Indo club lately.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a great song.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'm currently Every year at our high school,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the dance team does a dance with staff members and
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the girls like they get a staff member dance with them,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And I've done the same. The same girl has been
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: my partner. She asked me the last few years. So
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: we had practice the other day and the medley We're
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: dancing too is yeah by Usher oh Yeah with the
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Missy Elliott song, and I was just like, my god,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: this is I'm old, Holy shit. Anyway, we're just thinking
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: of public. This one was hard too. The only thing
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: that really stuck out. Senior year in high school, we
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: went to Magic Mountain in southern California for our grad trip.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Our grad night. I spent the whole night there, from
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: like eleven PM to six in the morning, riding rides
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and ship with all my friends, and for whatever reason,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: me and another one of my friends, I think it
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: was Eric, we just like laid on the floor. I
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: don't know if it was because we were exhausted, but
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: we just like laid there. And I just every once
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: in a while when I reactivated my Facebook, I'll see
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the picture of us just like laying there and like
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: not caring. And I don't know why we did that,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and that was very unsanitary. Anyway.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thinking about this one too, it's a tough one.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I gotta say.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: When I first moved to Omaha and I was at
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the dog park and a news crew came up to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: me and they're like, hey, can we interview you for
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a story?
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Didn't tell me what.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: It was going to be about at all, and I
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was like, sure, I'll be on the news, yea. And
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: so they start rolling and they're like, you know, with
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the hot weather in Omaha, like how do you keep
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: your dog's feet cool? And they just started asking me
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: about and I'm just a random person that they found
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: at the dog part.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I just leaned in. I was like, well, you know, I.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Really try and avoid the hottest part of the days.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I try to find trails with lots of tree cover
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to make sure there's plenty of shade on my dog.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, I just I dove in there. And so, yeah,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: talking about hot dog feet on the local news was
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: probably the weirdest thing I've ever done.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You remember that video from years ago, that couple that's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: like running in the middle of like a snowstorm and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: they're being interviewed and they girl, yeah, girls, like yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it's it's perfect, you know, it's it's really soft on
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the joints, like, oh man, the fresh powder is just
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: really good. And then they're like all right, thanks, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: she keeps running and she just slips and falls.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa makes sense because that snow is slicking it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, this one's I've had to stop myself before. What's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the crazy thing you ever posted on social media? You know?
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: When I was eighteen years old, I was like getting
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: into photoshop, yeah, and trying to like figure out how
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to do it. I really was not good at it
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: at all. But there was this girl that I'd kind
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of been talking to and I kind of liked. And
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I've always had a weird sense of humor, so I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: like photoshop a picture of her, like one of her
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like you know, senior photos. It's very done up and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: there's like this like creepy old man smelling her in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the picture.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Posted it on Facebook.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And she was like, Okay, you feel like this hilarious
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: creepy old man. Can you find that picture? I need
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to see that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I think I probably turned it to the I either
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: deleted it or made it so that only I can
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: see it, cause it was like maybe not yeah, recreated
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: but with Dana there you.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Go, recreate it with my lovely wife.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So funny.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: How about you anything, any take backs anything.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I've been pretty good on social media, thankfully, Yeah, thankfully.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I think I get too self conscious to post things.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Fuck, I feel like I just had it, but now
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't remember. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm pretty
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: good on on the social media. In terms of like behavior,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I really can't think of. Man. After I watched Avatar
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: the Last Airbender with Kevy for the first time, I've
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: never seen it, I was like, we should watch the movie,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the m Night Shyamalan movie yea, and she she warned me.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It was like no, and I was like, no, no, no,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: let's check it out. So I find it somewhere YouTube, Netflix,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: who knows. And it was so bad within the first
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: ten fifteen minutes that I stopped and I tweeted at
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: M Night Shyamalan and I said something to the effect
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: of like, how dare you? What is wrong with you?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: And I think I left it at that, so.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious. It was pretty straight to the director.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he wasn't gonna see it, but it
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was like, I just remember the first ten minutes, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Aang and fucking Katara and Sokka and they called him
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Soka and I was like, Okay, this is bullshit. We're
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: done here. I'm not what the fuck you had a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: whole three seasons where they're very clear with the pronunciation
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of names, and you name them Soka. Eh, fuck you
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: am not you. You ride the coattails of the sixth
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: cents way too much to think that you can get
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: away with that shit. I'd agree. Yeah, split was pretty
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: good though. I think we were sit together? Did didn't
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: we go together? I think everyone was in optometry school.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Will you there to see it?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I know I saw it with Dana.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: No, I think she had seen it with you, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: then she was like, you gotta see this because it's
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: kind of like psychiatry related.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: For ninety six percent of the movie, it's like, oh,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: this is cool. And then he turned into a monster.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, ah, okay, that's why. Yeah, people hate
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: portrayal of mental health and media. Okay, yeah, exactly.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on to notice him night.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Oh come on, don't ever, don't you ever?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Well, Eddie, what's your favorite thing about this podcast?
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: All of it? We get to hang out every couple
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: of weeks and talk and I feel like a better therapist,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: counselor mental health professional because of it. It's made me think,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: It's made me connect dots. You've seen me connect dots
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: live of things that just makes sense finally click for me.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: So I think that's that's super cool because I definitely
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: want to be someone that continues to learn throughout the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: entirety of my career, and I think this has given
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: me the opportunity. But I think for us to have
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: this conversation at a party of like we should do this,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and then we did years later, it's pretty sick.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, coming to fruition.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh and usually October is our anniversary month, right, so
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: we're coming up on November sick. Oh, November, Yeah, coming
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: upon six.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Years of doing the podcast, it's crazy.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of episodes, like almost one a lot of episodes.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're almost the one fifty. That's nuts.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would echo what you said that it's awesome
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to be able to keep this friendship going every couple
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of weeks checking in. We usually spending your twenty thirty
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: minutes just chatting before the episodes and seeing how life's going.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And that's always a fun thing. I laugh so much
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: when I'm on here with you.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: It's just it feels good.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: It feels like therapy to me because sometimes I'm having
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: a terrible day and then I see your face pop
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: up on my screen, and I'm just like, it feels better,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Like I instantly feel better.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And it's cool being able to connect with people.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And one thing I wish that we could do more
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: is like get feedback from audience because we've got you know,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: we've got thousands of people who listen to the show,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: but we don't always hear from them. Say, yeah, if
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you guys want to reach out, send us a message,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: We want to hear from you. That'd be great. Yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and so we would.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: We'd love topics that you might want or even just feedback.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And yeah, we we appreciate you guys. And the fact
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that we've had so many listeners throughout the years is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: pretty incredible.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh well, I feel connected more deeply. Good you.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: How would you rate our friendship after this conversation?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Oh man, did it increase at all? I mean, I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: feel like we were already pretty close.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: We do this frequently. Oh. We should title it something
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: to do with the one of the lyrics from the
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: song for the twenty one questions. I think one of
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: them was like are you mad? Because I'm asking you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: twenty one questions? Not a bad title? That would be
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: a good title.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna write that down there you go.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: It might be this part it Oh, that's true, that's true.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: We'll come up with I'm gonna listen to the song
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: right after this. I just want you to know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: That perfect good. I'll listen to it too, because it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: not ringing a bell for me.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Actually.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You gotta remember the era of my generation's music. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: dove back into the sixties and seventies and didn't actually
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: listen to a lot of music as it was coming out.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I I had a friend in like elementary middle school
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: who had the fifty cent CDs. I had no business
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: listening to those should not have it was it was bad.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Vulgar, just.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of those explicit labels back in the day.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: They were not kidding o. Yeah, there was some bad ship.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like our generation had the most explicit music there,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: like gen Z and Jenaffo is just.
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  Speaker 3: Like we all like that, Like we towed it back
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  Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, Bubba Sparks rocket looking everywhere. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: No, No, what a banger.
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