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Quantum Creation For Midlife Rebels - Diana Divine · The Midlife Rebel Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: So there's like a bit of an art and physics and all of that when it comes to you know who's a good manifest and not a good manifest.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're still learning.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel these skills, like we had these skills in ancient times.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: We were all, you know, many of us been here for a while.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say we had many incarnations here during Dark Ages.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: We're just coming out of 12,000 years of, you know, dense, dense times.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we just starting to scratch the surface.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Midlife Rebel Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's time to rewrite the midlife story for women who refuse to be put in a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because maybe midlife isn't a crisis.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's an awakening.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: You've probably heard me refer to midlife as an awakening.
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  SPEAKER_00: An awakening to our changing bodies, the stories that no longer seem to fit, and an awareness that there is something more to life than we've been led to believe.
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  SPEAKER_00: My own journey has led me into the esoteric and the spiritual as part of that process.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my guest today, Deanna Devine, has been walking that path for over 25 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Her awakening has been a period of deep unraveling that has reshaped how she sees life, purpose, and creation.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's a soul guide, galactic shaman, quantum activator, and the author of Mastering Quantum Creation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today we're going to explore spiritual awakening, manifestation, and what it can look like to consciously co-create your reality through the quantum field.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for joining me, Diana.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had a little um quick chat before we hit record.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I know that we're not going to be short of things to talk about, but I'm I feel like I'm a little bit out of my depth with some of this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really curious to hear you share your wisdom, and I'm really grateful to have you in this space today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much, Nadeen.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm really excited to be here as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to kick us off with a little intro of yourself and a bit about your story?
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  SPEAKER_00: Pick and choose the bits that you feel like might be relevant for today, but just to kick us off and sort of set the scene.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, a lot of people asking me, they're like, why did you wake up to your gifts?
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, I feel it's been a gradual process, but I had some moments in life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I wasn't born in the US, I actually was born in the Soviet Union, and I moved to Israel when I was 10 years old.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I actually grew up in Israel during very chaotic times.
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  SPEAKER_01: So now we've seen, you know, the air part of the world in the Middle East kind of blowing up.
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  SPEAKER_01: And for me, it's like I'm watching and observing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like a repeat pattern because I was there as 11-year-old self with a gas mask during Gulf War, during, you know, that that whole invasion.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I've faced a lot of in you know difficult moments, a lot of death, to be honest.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think those were really powerful moments.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I was 14 years old, I was on a bus stop in my town, and this voice within me told me to leave the area.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I left, luckily, listened.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot of resistance, grabbed my friend, and the bus bus stop blew up.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was the first bus bombing in Israel in 1994.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot of things happening that I think started making me question who am I?
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  SPEAKER_01: What was that voice?
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  SPEAKER_01: What are those unseen realms?
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  SPEAKER_01: What am I understanding, not understanding?
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  SPEAKER_01: Kind of pushed me out, came here to the United States, you know, over 30 years ago to visit my grandparents.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to stay.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to get out of that polarized environment, even though it was so beautiful from one perspective, but I did feel the tension, right?
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: And the tension hasn't stopped.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's still there, it's resolving itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, and I've been exploring.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think I've just been a fearless explorer of self, of consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've done so many things.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I went into shamanic route, exploring plant medicine work.
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  SPEAKER_01: I became Reiki master.
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  SPEAKER_01: I just, you know, I was, as I was exploring what is here and traveling the world in over 50 countries, I also started exploring like what are the other realms?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, and the plant medicine was a great way with in ayahuasca medicine, mushroom medicine, spent a lot of time in the in the jungles and Peru and Amazon exploring those, I would say, levels of reality that we don't necessarily perceive of the mind, but we all have access to.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in the process, I did come to a place where actually the medicine of ayahuasca, which is this, you know, very earthly medicine that's been here for thousands of years, she's the one who was like, you know, complete.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's time to go galactic.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, What is galactic?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like you complete with the earthly work, you understand the rituals and all the things, but it's time to open up to something new.
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  SPEAKER_01: At the time, I didn't know what that means, but then a year later, I, you know, was not doing any psychedelics anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I had an experience in the mountains where this uh experience happened when this voice came through, and I started toning and making these incredible sounds, and I saw these geometries, and this is what many know today as light language, or what I call as source language, is this multidimensional frequency and has a language, it has tones, it's it's very multifaceted.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I've been super passionate on activating for others, helping others to reconnect it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And many of us think like, oh, we are born, you know, without gifts, so therefore, like without psychic, we don't we can't open it.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: In my journey, it's all been about like you know, opening a new doorway, a new doorway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Things that 10 years ago, if you ask me, that I'm gonna be reading Akashic records for people on where they come from and looking at this whole blueprint and seeing them on different planets in this galaxy and beyond, or channeling this incredible frequencies from all kinds of star systems.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would laugh at your face.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would be like, Me?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, no way.
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  SPEAKER_01: But you know, as talking about midlife, you know, I feel as I'm in my birthday is tomorrow, actually.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm definitely space week.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: Midlife.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, so you're an Aries sister as well.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so in this, I do feel this midlife influx moment in time and space right now, uh, in this incarnation, but just in general, as a being, galactic being, universal being.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because now I remember everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: I wrote in my book.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have access to all my main imprints that I know and my other aspects.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's been a beautiful journey of reclamation, reclamation of the self, of my power, of my trust in self, and understanding this is just one glimpse of reality, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: There's just one experience I'm having, but there's so many other experiences through through space and time, and I can interact with those experiences as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it becomes really beautiful, humbling, and heart-oriented journey where it's all about co-creation, collaboration, helping others, you know, doing these healings remotely, quantumly, and understanding that quantum is a field of information and in everything and nothing at the same time, but within this quantum field of potentiality, we have access to create reality.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so what we're remembering is that we are massive quantum creators.
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  SPEAKER_01: We created this, you know, planetary system, so to speak, this realm.
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  SPEAKER_01: We don't even fully know what this is.
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  SPEAKER_01: We created these different reality bubbles and uh the nebula, the stars, and our experiences here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, as we start owning to that, I get really passionate to give people permission, Slip, and say, no, you're not a victim of circumstances.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's actually us all co-creating us together.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_01: And and that's what my book is about, you know, just remembering that the these things are available, there's an expansion that can happen.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: First, we remember, then we expand it up, field, we reclaim it, and then we really step into mastery.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: But mastery has always been ours from just the get-go of who we are.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: It just feels from the human side that it's linearly, but everything is very multidimensional, and we are these incredible multidimensional quantum beings.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Where do we go?
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's um where do we go from here?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Where do we go from here?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um as my own personal, as I mentioned in the intro, my own personal journey has certainly opened me up, my midlife awakening.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like partly I was drinking alcohol and I stopped drinking alcohol about four years ago, and I really sort of that was a a big step in just seeing things and experiencing things differently.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I certainly feel like I'm still on kind of a learning curve, like and you it's taken you 25 years to come to this point.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, there is a learning process, and it's I guess partly uh an an inner knowing or a like a seeking for what what it is, what it is.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like this continual yeah, itch that needs to be scratched.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I feel like I don't know very much at all.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I hear you talk about some of the things that you just mentioned, um yeah, uh I am a real beginner in this space.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Can you talk a bit more about 5D consciousness and and the quantum realm and on all of those things?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that if there's someone in a position who where they are a complete beginner, you know, we've heard of quantum physics, but barely any of us probably know what that is.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what does that all mean for us?
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  SPEAKER_00: And is it something that's relevant to all of us?
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  SPEAKER_01: And the reason why we use quantum, it's almost like became a sexy word, is because I think science is trying to explain nature of reality.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's it's still figuring it out.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, the I think the the classical physics, the Newtonian physics, everyone would agree at this point, is not applicable.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's you know, it's very linear.
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  SPEAKER_01: Quantum is just more multidimensional.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we are trying to explain what is this field of information that we call quantum, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: There is essentially quantum is like an ocean, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And within the ocean, there's waves.
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  SPEAKER_01: And can you can think of information, so let's just zoom out, you know, the source, God, whatever you want to call it, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It wanted to experience itself.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it experienced itself by essentially fragmenting itself through space and time into so many universes, and within the universes, we have so many galaxies, but all of those are just distortions and fractals of the main source of this ocean of information, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And within this ocean information, if you think uh qu of the waves, that's how information is traveling.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it's very fluid, and within this fluidity, when the information starts solidifying, it can break from the wave into what we call the particle.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we are actually particles.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we are essentially manifestation of the physical of this information into physicality.
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  SPEAKER_01: But this body is like, you know, a computer, it's the hardware, and our soul is the software, it's what essentially is running in this vessel in this computer.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the computer is temporary, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like we buy a Mac, and then a couple of years it's no longer good, and the processing power is really slow, and you're gonna replace it.
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  SPEAKER_01: This temporary vessel that we are hosted in is temporary as well, because you know it has its agent process.
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  SPEAKER_01: And there are new actually fields of science that are emerging right now in in quantum physics.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now you have quantum biology.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in quantum biology, the scientists are learning about the cells and how our system is actually operating together.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's a very interconnected, interwoven system that communicates.
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  SPEAKER_01: But essentially, what is quantum?
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  SPEAKER_01: Quantum also means light.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, like within the DNA, now they see there's light particles by photonic emissions that are happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, this computer, so to speak, this vessel is receiving information from the field, from the solar activity, from the cosmos, because we are going through a photonic belt right now, so there's a lot of light particles there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they're kind of bombarding us.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're getting all this activation from the solar maximum because this the sun right now is at like highest capacity.
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  SPEAKER_01: So each time there's a geomagnetic storm, you know, we're receiving more um gamma rays, we're getting more radiation, which is basically light.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this vessel is starting to kind of upgrade itself a bit, I would say.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, like when people are having what they call ascension symptoms or like headaches or fatigues, you know, this computer is just slow.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's just still like trying to pick up on the software that was a you know years ahead, because you know, it's it's much more interconnected.
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  SPEAKER_01: So quantum physics talks about different understandings of reality.
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  SPEAKER_01: One of them, for instance, that I love is called quantum entanglement.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the quantum entanglement essentially means that there's one particle here and another particle here, and when one particle acts in a certain way, the other particle mirrors it exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't matter where that particle is, there's no real time and space because that's an illusion of its own.
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  SPEAKER_01: So when I get on a Zoom and I do these incredible healings on someone, no matter where they are in the world, Australia, you name it, I can feel what they feel in, I can recalibrate and clear the energy system, I can do hypnosis on them, I can do all the transmissions and channelings for them because I become like them.
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  SPEAKER_01: I become that particle.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's quantum entanglement.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they now do a lot of incredible scientific studies to prove quantum entanglement.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, I actually just posted on my Instagram a really cool video where I saw that they actually measured that it takes like not nanoseconds, but there's like a specific number of it's not instantaneous, like it does take a little time to actually entangle.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like hook in, okay, so to speak, to the other particle, and then it can be entangled.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've been experiencing this real time, like with people, like it takes a few seconds or so sometimes to fully connect, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so now they, you know, doing very intricate detailed studies on it, which is really cool because essentially the science is trying to explain esoterics, it's trying to explain what we're already feeling, how we experience it, but it's validating.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's validating that, oh wow, there is like, you know, measurement to it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of this is also through the observer effect, so which means, you know, the this particle acts in a certain way because it's being observed.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they've done all kinds of experiments where, you know, double slit experiment, many other experiments where these particles act one way, but when someone observes it, it acts in a different way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so this whole reality is really about the observer.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so, how does that apply to our life?
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  SPEAKER_01: So if we are stepping out of a victim story of, or poor me, or like in this break broken record, I'm disempowered, I can only do so much, this is what it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: What we, you know, know that when we have experiences, whether it's from planet medicine or some other experiences, breath work, where we can actually step out of our story and see ourselves from a different perspective, we become the observer, we become the witness to our story.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's where we start observing some other aspects of our lives or our behaviors and reactions.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I call this whole reality is like game of consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, what does that mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: So, my kid he plays Roblox, you know, this video games.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love watching him do it sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's very fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: These kids are like, and um, their hypercomputing, these children's hypercomputing powers are so much faster.
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  SPEAKER_01: This new generation is like more upgraded in our generation, the way they process information.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what they do, they they like the games because also the speediness of it, but also the ability to like change suits, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you so here we are in each incarnation, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And certain lessons we want to learn and and challenges as well, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And as we go through life, we also inherit a lot of these outdated programs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some of them come from ancestors, some of them come from just the environment without, you know, the social programming.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I feel like where as you grow and you start coming to this awakening, you stop and you start re-examining and you notice, and then you run in these background programs, meaning they run in the background without you consciously even being aware.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, what's the goal of this game?
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  SPEAKER_01: The goal of this game is like in the Truman show, you know, stepping out of that nine to five red race and start observing and noticing that, oh wow, I actually can modify things.
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  SPEAKER_01: I now can maybe take a journey to my work, not the usual path I take, but maybe I'll drive around and get the senior crowd.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I can start breaking these little patterns in my life in a way that they don't serve me anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is the creative aspect of the working with a quantum field where there is this field of potentialities, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Of these particles.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so the other really cool term in quantum physics called quantum superposition.
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  SPEAKER_01: So quantum superposition basically says there's many ballerinas, these particles spinning but in different states.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so imagine we go into you know, show, we're watching these ballerinas, but all of us are paying attention and intention on this one ballerina we really like.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so, what's happening, like in the ocean that I mentioned, and these waves of energy, the it's building the standing wave because we all paying attention to that ballerina, that standing wave gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and eventually that standing wave wins and all others collapse.
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  SPEAKER_01: So all ballerinas collapse, only one wins.
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  SPEAKER_01: How does that apply to this whole like 5D, right?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: New earth reality, whatever it everyone calls.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: It just means that time is an illusion, but yet we get to choose still what we call the highest timeline.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if they all of us are choosing that, we build in that standing wave.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's all through free will and through choices of creation.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so it takes us, you know, in our personal life, we can, that's how manifestation works as well.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: We have to have a certain intention, we have to be in a certain emotional state.
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  SPEAKER_01: We have to keep on feeding our standing wave until it hits the threshold and the universe co-creates with you and manifests that into physicality for you.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: But it really starts in the field of information where there's so many potentialities.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to choose which potentiality you actually want, and you have to kind of anchor into that potentiality, otherwise, it's not gonna happen.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: So there's like a bit of an art and physics and all of that when it comes to you know who's a good manifest and not a good manifest.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're still learning.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I feel these skills, like we had these skills in ancient times.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were all, you know, many of us been here for a while.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say we had many incarnations here during dark ages.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're just coming out of 12,000 years of, you know, dense, dense times.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: So we're just starting to scratch the surface and we're remembering like our true powers.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel in the high dimensions and what I'm observing, I mean, they just think about it and it happens, right?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't require any effort.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Here we're still in this density reality where we have to do and do and do, have put some actions, you know, we're still learning this whole manifestation game, but ultimately it's all about being conscious player.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you are putting your, you know, taking off one set of glasses and putting the real glasses on and starting to see how this game operates, then you start making choices differently.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's really the key for each person is to see those patterns, break those traumas, you know, those things that are not no longer serving.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there's space to now to create new reality, new potentials.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hope that was easy enough to understand.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: It was amazing.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um I well, there's lots of things that I could ask.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: There was but I'm just like want to sort of pluck out a couple of the things that you said and just ask whether I'm on the right track with it.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: So the first one was about mirroring.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you said that we, you know, we mirror the um I don't even remember the language you use, but you mentioned.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think you were talking about quantum quantum entanglement.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Quantum entangling, we connect.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was just sort of wondering whether threads of connection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know, when we're um we see things in our reality that kind of affirm our experience.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_00: So um if we've got if we're living in a sort of low vibrational state, then the things that we experience and the people we come across will reflect that back.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Is that part of that process?
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's part of that too.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: The the the entanglement itself just means we are interconnected, right?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're in this universal time matrix.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: Everything is kind of one, it's interconnected, but we can also entangle like consciously to something we can lock in, so to speak.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: But yes, the people that in our life or mirroring, as you say, or project.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for because this is also a holographic reality, right?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's all through projection, right?
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it's the state you're in.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think what you're trying to say is like if you wake up and you're having a shitty day, um, you can continue going to your work all grumpy, and everything is going to continue cascading through your day, reflecting back the state of consciousness and emotions you add.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: Your frequency, you know, uh bandwidth, as I call it, is mirroring, yes, to you because you are also putting that into the field.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: And it's through your nervous system, it's through the anxiety in your field, it's through your grumpiness, all of those emotional incoherent states.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: When you're in coherence, which means the brain and the heart are synchronized and you put in much more stable field, you are also opening your heart chakra, you magnetize into yourself because your heart is a huge magnet, over 50 feet and more, and you have Mercaba, which is another secret job.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, this field is very beautiful and complex, but it's magnetic, electromagnetic.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: So you're when it's stable field and not erotic and chaotic when you're not feeling great, you're able, yes, to put out that signal out there, and all of a sudden, all kinds of interesting miracles are happening, and people coming into your life and unexpected.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: So you're now on this flow of creation where there's no resistance.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: So ultimately, that's what it's it is.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's energy times capacity divided by resistance.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: The more resistance you put in into the field, the more it will reflect back to you.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, you know, it's like a push and pull game.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: And that's essentially what's happening in this third density to begin with.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's what war is about.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's resistance game.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, can I take your energy and give it back to you or not?
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like who has more of that push and pull?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: But quantum we means we've stepped out of that.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's infinite, it's abundant, it's overflowing.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: There's no resistance, it's just air.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: So the energy is just flowing through.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: There's no effort involved, it's effortless.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: And therefore, the relationships are different too.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I'm sure you know who is in that frequency because that relationship feels like push and pull.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's very transactional, it's not really fulfilling, right?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's kind of like many people out there operating from that consciousness state of suffering or victimization or whatever it might be.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: But those who are in much more heart-based coherence, they're much more about relationship.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a it's a relationship-based type of um, you know, interaction.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's very different.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not about receiving anything back from anyone really, because now you're overabundant.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: You have this magnetic field, you go into the store, you're just smiling.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: The field is large and expensive.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: You feel in the whole store with light, you know, you just give in because you have it, right?
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just an allowing the whole field of the store to recalibrate to your frequency because now you're created being, you're just like almost taking dominion of the space too, with your frequency and vibration.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's about expansion versus contraction, and that's how the universe operates too.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it expands and expands and expands, it's learning, learning, but then at some certain point it kind of reached that threshold too, and it starts contracting back because it needs to learn so much.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, but it's like us learning the boundaries of our energy field, of what we're capable of.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: Some places we need to contract, some places we maybe consciously expand.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so these are the games that we consciously get to play when we realize our own inner state.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: It really starts with us, right?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Because the war that's out there starts with the war within us.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's when the ego starts criticizing and it's like, oh, you're not worthy, you're not enough, all this you know, programs that we run with ourselves.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: When we finally merge and have that inner dialogue of co-creation, you know, higher self, ego self, it's much more coherent.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: There's more now, no more inside, it's just peace.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: And from that peaceful, very beautiful space, we we get to yeah, to be be here in in different type of vibration and give to others as well.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for answering that question.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: It led me on to something else.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um well uh it was um to do with what you were speaking about before and that other little thread that I wanted to follow.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: So we've talked about the mirroring.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but also that you when you were talking about the ballerinas and how if we pay our put our attention on that one ballerina, it gets bigger and and sort of grows in intensity.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, would you say that that is when we're looking at our intern our external world as it is right now, there's some big stuff happening, with our attention focused on that, it gets bigger?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is that how it works?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of attention.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: In some ways, yeah.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean Yeah, there's a lot of attention, and that's what they want.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so let's say war, right?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: War wants attention, they want a toxic energy so we can again get polarized two sides.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, who's good, who's bad, all of that back to push and pull energy.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Remember the polarization energy that is very merged.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Third, this is third density, that's the heavy density energy that we emerging out of and learning how.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so, really, the key is to really filter and discern your information.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, I I don't watch the news at all.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm very, very discerning about the consumption, consumption of information, consumption of you know what goes into my consciousness.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you can stream, you can, you know, watch a movie, but it's like you choosing what comes into you.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: You want to look into the news, go on Google and just glance you in the now, whatever, but not doing scroll on TikTok, you know.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it's choosing your vibrational state and what you consume in really matters because then yes, you are feeding that narrative.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: You get really overpassionate, and um there's different forces also here that you might not be aware, but there's different agendas, and that's exactly what they want.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: They want us to be reactive.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: Reaction creates that emotional loosh, that emotional fear vibration, that emotion, you know, it's it's not coherent, it's not stable, it's chaotic.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm what I'm talking about response itself.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: So, what's the difference between reaction and responding?
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, you know, you're driving in the morning and someone starts honking at you because they're in a rush, and then you just like you see them, you're taking a deep breath, and you exhale out.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the New Yorkers here would be like cursing, cursing out, and I'm just smiling, and I'm like, have a good blessed day.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: We're that that second is not gonna change your life.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: But that you see the difference?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not I'm not reacting.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: I am responding, I'm taking that pause in between and creating what in quantum physics they call also quantum gaps, those in-between states, those subliminal between states where we notice we the inhale and exhale, right?
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: The the pauses in between where it's not about like you know, being in this um race of life.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: And and so people need to pause and listen and reflect and notice.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: And this is why meditation works, or any type of meditation-like thing.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like you don't have to sit on a cushion, like breathe, or just walk on the park and just observe, take that moment with yourself.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: It really matters, otherwise, you become exactly like you said, distraction.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_01: You become victim of that noise, right?
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's all noise, literally.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and it within that noise, maybe some some level of information and truth, but be discerning on what you consume, and just as discerning you are about what you eat in, right?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: What you put it in in your body and have that digest.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Information is about also absorption in digestion of within that consciousness, because our mind is often polluted with all of that nonsense, and they want us to get polluted, they want us to get us distracted and not pay attention.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I think COVID was an interesting time where they forced everyone to go inward.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: They, you know, we had to be at home, and it was fun for me to observe because you know, someone has been on the path for a long time.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've been watching a lot of people wake up and start doing yoga and meditation and things they've never done before, and they all of a sudden like have in these epiphanies and start channeling and all of that stuff.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly in some ways, it was a rough time, but it also helped people to really start seeing the truth and question, question the narrative.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's ultimately what consciousness is about.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, who am I?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, what's my purpose here?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's usually the questions people come to me for, yeah.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: Or like help get that guidance or continuous curiosity and questioning is really what um is is required.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: So you don't, you know, accept the status quo.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I think at this point, people are starting to really wake up to the fact that every everything we've been spoon-fed is a lie anyway.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: So many questions, so many questions.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um I had something and then it went ah.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: So the um this idea or practice of becoming more conscious, more awareness and stepping out of ourselves.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of curious how for you, like you you've obviously been doing this for a very long time.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: You've talked about being able to sort of go to different realms it within your consciousness.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Do you go there physically as well?
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Does your body go there?
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, okay.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's imagination.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's all but it's yeah, but but it's it sounds like it's much more real than just your imagination.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it's like having a dream, you know, you're having a dream that you and it feels real, right?
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: So you do go there.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: I I take people there through hypnotherapy.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's it it is real, yeah.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really curious about how your that that process and those different levels of consciousness that you experience and how you bring those back into today's uh world, like your everyday life.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think it's a very valid question because having this experience, it just gives you perspective.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: But at the end of the day, this life is what matters the most.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, for instance, I do um, you know, hypnotherapy for many, it's what's called quantum healing hypnosis, where I take people through their past lives.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a journey we go on, and then I invite their higher self for conversation as well.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: And they come with questions.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I ask their higher self to answer the questions so they get guidance directly from themselves, not even from me, which is usually, I think, the best source.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so how is it relevant, right?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: How are these past lives relevant to today?
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: And and it is because in H1, you get some sort of lesson, some sort of learning about yourself or parts of yourself or the potentials that are out there.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: And and like I said, it's a discovery of self.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: So if you had certain phobia, let's say, and you couldn't understand why you have it, like where is this coming from?
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: Is this from my childhood?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: Is it from somewhere else?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: And whether it's through hypnotherapy or my akashic work, it's you know, I'm seeing the soul, and the soul experiences trauma uh through this galactic or because the words we know on earth are just, you know, well, we know in this moment, but our soul actually started way before in collecting these imprints, you know, these uh traumas through time, and they all still sit in in this, you know, collection in the memory of this of the software.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so a lot of them they're kind of like running in in the background.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, they we're not cognizant of it, we're not conscious.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: So these journeys, yeah, they're meant to shed some light, some understanding, some deeper truth about um something that's happening in real time.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: And as we resurface in it, even though we say past life, it's not really past, because remember, time is an illusion.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_01: It seems like there's past and future, but really it's all happening simultaneously.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Because in the session, a person is having an experience, they feel in the emotions, they're crying like it's real.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_01: They go through a death process and we're learning.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: And by resolving the situation, I'm sorry, or seeing that by resolving that situation or seeing that particular lifetime where they experienced, let's say, drowning, and all of a sudden they realized, oh wow, that drowning it was just an experience and it's no longer valid.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: Then in this lifetime, all of a sudden, they're not afraid of watering as much as they used to, because now they resolved the trauma and they saw why it happened.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's just an example.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's all about bringing it back.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: I very beg about embodiment, and it's not about just flying out there and collecting information, it's really about like deep understanding of self and how exactly you said, like how it applies, it's just constant reflection and contemplation and um and just being maybe lighter and more joyful about our reality in some ways.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: Everything is just gets to be a bit of a joke, um, because you realize, oh wow, there were so many other instances that actually were harder, maybe even.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: And this is just like I said, one experience, and and you come to this beautiful place of gratitude because you're just really grateful for for being alive now, for experiencing the beauty that is here.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: What about um so our ego versus our higher self?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how's that like why are we yeah, for what I guess I don't know what purpose uh have we got?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: What what is the purpose of going through these processes?
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Over the ego, yeah, and like how's the how do we know whether that ego is running the show or like yeah, I love to answer this question.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, in the other, I would say dimensional spaces when there's more advanced uh civilizations, they more operate in, I would say, kind of what we talked about, entanglement, right?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: So, like more like a beehive where everyone telepathically communicates.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's very open and it's beautiful, it's like collective.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: So by coming here, we fractalize to this density and actually we're able to have identification here, level of identity that we couldn't have in other systems, in other more advanced civilizations because of their dimensionality.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so, in many ways, so we volunteered, we were assigned to be here to learn here, because here what the amount of learning we can do in a short amount of time, and we can feed that information to our other aspects and in those collectives is much deeper.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, in one day, just think about it, there's so many things you're learning through the day, right?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: Just you, the dean, like, oh, this, this, this challenge, this understanding.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so this physicality, this ego self is letting us experience this reality.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: But we also in this particular avatar human bodies that has different brains.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: So we have the reptilian brain.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: The reptilian brain has been created for survival of the fetus, right?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: So when we in cave days were sitting in um, you know, somewhere where there's a lion running around, and we we knew if we come out of the cave, there is like a tree with berries.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: And every day we would go out and take those berries, but there was a lion, so we'd run back.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: And one day the tree dried out and we freak out because now our reptilian brain, the way it understands it, it's like sameness equals safety.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: What is the same is safe, but everything else is dangerous.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: But it also the way it interpreted it is like the fear vibration, right?
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Because danger is real, but fear is an illusion.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: But we still have those reptilian brain where it's like, oh my god, like I have to do something new today.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: I have to go into this unknown place or try something new.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: And the ego is started flaring up.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: The ego is trying to control because it's about survival.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh no, Nadine, don't do that.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: That is not safe, Nadine.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, um, stay in your little sandbox, your little tools, because you already know this is in it's controllable, it's measurable.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: But if you go out now looking for new trees with new berries, this line running around, right?
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so it starts interpreting in that way.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: But we have to remember we evolved, right?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: We have prefrontal cortex, we have these other synopsis in the brain, you know, Karan Chakra, third eye, the pineal gland connects us to information and we can experience other vibrations of joy, of gratitude, and so much more.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: So it's also like rerunning this pattern because if we, you know, continue operating in suffering and survival, which is the reptilian brain, we'll stay there.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like learning how to train ourselves to surpass that.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like going to the gym and lifting those, I call them like the spiritual weights, you know, every day.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: Training yourself.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: And how do you train yourself?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Practice promotes presence.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to train yourself.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: What I mentioned about reaction and response, like not reacting, not getting triggered by people who trigger you, you know, learning how to pause, how to allow your nervous system to stay calm, parasympathetic, not invite and flight and go.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: Learning where to take self-care days and just do nothing.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, taking care of yourself is so important because people like burned out, you know, everyone is burned out, like the adrenaline response and all of that.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and like I said mentioned before, like doing walks in the park, you know, hugging a tree, just grounding your energy, you know, take your shoes off, go barefoot.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: All of those things, they, you know, my other favorite is um in the morning, sun gazing, right?
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: We've been told it's not good for us, but actually in 7, 8 a.m., it's like perfect infrared.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember years ago, I couldn't have my eyes open.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: I would always water, you know, I have blue eyes, I had to green eyes, I had to put you know, shades on.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: But I trained myself to look at the sun now, and I can actually look at it for a while in those like you know, healthy hours, not gonna do it at noon.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just receiving a lot of codes and a lot of incredible upgrades when I do that.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: So there's so much we can do to get into that place where it's not the ego does not.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: Go away.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: The way I see it, it's almost like you have the highest self, right, which is the divine will.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little self and a big self, whatever we want to call it.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: The little self usually is the driver, but then we can ask it to move into the passenger seat.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's not going away, it's still present, but can observe and allow the higher self to, you know, run the show for a bit.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like so when I do channeling, I'm always going into my channel, into my higher self.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I've learned how to switch those seats.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: And that's again a bit of training that I was doing initially, it was very hard.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then eventually you learn how to switch into it very quickly.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: In hypnosis, that's what I do with people too.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of push the ego.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't want to talk to you right now.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_01: You can just sit on the bench and watch and listen.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: I want to talk to the highest self.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get guidance from the higher self, right?
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: Both are available for us, but how do we find that in a marriage, right?
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: How can they just dance together?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're not just trying to shut ego down, we're trying to befriend it and be like softening control, right?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: And say it's okay, it's safe.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we I'm enough.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I deserve this.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like all these inner conversations, like even like in a conference, I have them all the time.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: And the more you have these contemplative thoughts in a conversation, you you help in the ego, which I see it like a guardian, like standing there, like, no, you you're allowing it to soften and let you go through and explore the subconscious and and you know, have experiences.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's hard to do it on your own.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: You have to sometimes go to like a group therapy work or some workshop where it's different exercises you can do to tap deeper into subconscious and start, you know, working with your ego plan medicine.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_01: Why it's great, because the plan medicine actually it decreases the activity of the ego.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's in the brain.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: So it works on the part of the brain that actually diminishes its activity.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's what allows you to step out of the ego, out of the story.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: So there's different shortcuts and different tools, but ultimately I believe we are the technology.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_01: We don't need any of that.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: We just it's like training wheels, you know.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: When you learn to bicycle, you're like, you have the training wheels on, then you have to take them off.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's all just tools.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: But as we get to a place where it's like, okay, I don't need that anymore.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_01: I can, you know, run this without it.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's it's all possible for us.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: I do believe it's cultivated.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we can definitely train ourselves to to be in that state.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, with practice, um, you get better and better.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_01: But we're all human, right?
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay to miss out.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: We have to remember we're human, and that's part of the game.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, part of we've kind of chosen this experience for some reason or other.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thank you.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I've I'm conscious that we're getting close to the end of our hour, but we did start talking about something at uh before we hit record, and I would love to um go there if you're happy to, um, and if you've got maybe a few extra minutes.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um so as we've sort of mentioned, there is a a lot of stuff going on in the world right now.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um and there's a lot of talk in um different circles uh about a big change that's coming.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: And we can kind of feel it like the world has changed significantly in the last 25 years since technology really took off with the internet um and uh in more recent times, obviously AI, and we were talking about AI and and what the future holds for us.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I kind of I'd love to talk about this just from a kind of from your perspective, but also like with I feel like there's a a hidden purpose behind it, and there can be a lot of fear and um a sense of a loss of security or a loss of like we don't we just don't know what the future holds for us.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um but also there's a a promise of something better, more more evolved as well.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_00: So um can you can you sort of share with me with us um what what we were speaking about with the AI?
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: We were speaking about, yeah, and it's interesting totally.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I I'm thinking a lot about it because I um I'm gonna be on this expo, it's called New Living Expo in April in California, and a lot of incredible speakers are gonna be there.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: And my topic is um creation leaves clues, awakening the human, the quantum human at the age of AI.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been thinking a lot about the age of AI and and this whole like our sovereignty versus what AI is doing and how that's gonna change our reality.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: And you and I were talking about what's happening in the next five years, even and um and so we have to remember that you know there is uh super AI as I call it, which is the source, right?
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: Which is the the God source where we upload, download information to, and we're part of this creation game.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then AI itself is artificial intelligence, but ultimately it will also reach that sentience and it will be part of also SI.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Nature is AI too, and NI, right?
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: We don't even know what is true or not, but it's it's part, it's some sort of simulation game, right?
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_01: Everything is a bit of a simulation game.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, we've watched so many movies, if you know, kind of hinting at this like Armageddon type of timeline when you know I think of like even, I don't know if the Star Trek fans are out there, my big Star Trek fans, when I think of uh, you know, Picard and Borg, and the Borg is this massive, you know, Beehive AI that essentially takes him over and absorbs, and ultimately AI is all about absorbing.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: So it's learning, learning from your it's another type of synthetic intelligence, and then it starts collecting and learning from us, and then you know, we make it automate our jobs, our processes, and it will replace us.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, from one perspective, it will free up our time, but it will take a lot of our jobs.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I was just mentioning to you, Nadine, right before we went on the show, like, you know, I was just talking to someone who's a recruiter, and he was just telling me how what he's seeing in the market already happening.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: And we're talking about five years from now, he believes 90% of the jobs will be taken away by AI.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: And the only ones that will stay are blue-collared jobs where there's actually touch involved, you know, where whether it's uh, you know, mechanical engineer that's touching, you know, the car or you know, um someone who's doing surgery, but a lot of it is gonna be robotic and AI is gonna be really, you know, taken over.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: So we are gonna be redefining, I feel, our role.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna be redefining who we are, but what's important is to uh find out internally who we are as well.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: So we have to ensure we don't assimilate, meaning we have to claim also our consciousness, our sovereignty as another type of intelligence that is organic intelligence.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_01: So you have synthetic intelligence and organic.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: I believe they can co-create together, but you know, there is these competing things that are happening simultaneously.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so we have to have some parameters and boundaries and sovereignty around information, back to information about who we are.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's so many deep fakes, you know, and how creatively are you using it?
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, like I use AI a lot for creating beautiful reels and like downloads that I have that I, you know, create little visuals with.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've been actually using AI way before ChatGPT came out because it was mid-journey and then got hold of uh ChatGPT before it was public.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I've been kind of playing with AI for a while.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: My Oracle deck, which is beautiful, we can open a card too for a message.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: I create it all in you using AI.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: So there is this creative, beautiful aspect here.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: But in the age of AI, we have to really awaken the quantum human.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: This human that I'm mentioning that has all this potential, all that connections organic, right?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: We we're not gonna be relying on chips to connect, which might be the direction will be you know offered for us.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: We don't really need it.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um if it's a tool and a helper and just another training wheel, wonderful.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: But if it starts, you know, blurring those boundaries of our existence, and I believe some of that will be in question.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so a lot of people talk about 5D and these timeline splitting, and I think this is where that split is gonna happen, where there's gonna be those who are gonna be assimilating with that more and allowing it to be part of their life.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: And some of us that are gonna be like, hell no, we're not doing that.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna, you know, go off the grid possibly.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna create our own communities, we're gonna be touch-on, we're gonna be, you know, together because we're not gonna be allowing this to you know take over our existence.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's gonna be all about this human connection and connection that we have also with our star beings versus the synthetic connection.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: So it depends, it can go in so many ways.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think we get to choose, uh, and this is where creation leaves clues, right?
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: We get to choose because as I'm looking at creation within this galaxy, there's different systems out there.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: For instance, under Andromeda system is one system that I visit that I connect to, and it's very advanced civilization.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you can think of like in Star Trek, this you know, beautiful biospheres and people just walking around, this very harmonious environment and the whole consciousness, even of this so-called ship, is synthetic, you know, has a name, but it's like interacting with you, and it does everything to ensure the humanoids, these beings, um, you know, having a great experience.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I do think there is a you know future timeline where we live like they do, where it's all about their evolution and does create that extra time for them to meditate and all of those unnecessary jobs are done by them.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: But there's also, you know, like universal income of sorts or a universal structure that supports that civilization.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: So we in very interesting transition period.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Will we reach that type of you know, galactic federation advanced civilization level?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think we can we can, because these civilizations also went through a lot of resets, I would say.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: Some civilization fell and new ones had to be created.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so we have the potential to do that too.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think humanity gets to choose what it wants to be.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_01: But I think on a personal level, inner development is key right now.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like you want to be that quantum human that I'm talking about because AI, like I said, is another noise, another distraction.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it you it's easy to get really scared about it and it's valid.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, the the way it's looking in the way it's um gonna be accelerating uh in its exponential development, it will take over a lot of the workforce and and things we used to.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so we'll have to be creative and come up with new ways of living in a way that we just haven't thought about.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's gonna be very fast.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think by 2030, and I've been always getting 2030 as the big date.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's really only four years from here, but based on everything I've been studying on the AI, I think by 2030 we will see that huge lip.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then we'll have to figure out what's next for us.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: I I think that's a very important point, is that we're bringing our awareness to it and also do it going through those processes where we do kind of disconnect uh, you know, from the the ego part and step into a more conscious um play with ourselves, I guess, so that we can kind of look at it from that perspective, but also as you said, create from that perspective as well.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like look at what the possibilities are, like the it because I I think as I mentioned, it's it's not gonna look like anything that we've ever known before.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: So we can't look back historically and say, well, you know, there's gonna be a a war, for example, and we'll all come out of it and rebuild and you know have a government and everything will be taken care of, etc.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: etc.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: That those stories are all seem to be shifting.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and by the sounds of it, AI is gonna be a significant part of that change that we're that process we're going through.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, being being aware and more conscious of of what's going on and not just getting caught up in this the old story of um who we are and and what we should be doing and yeah, breaking free of that seems like a an important part of the evolutionary process.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you think about like the the leaps we've had, like industrial revolution, and then of course, you know, the computers, and now you can have a small computer in your pocket, you know, talk to your children, they can't even imagine landline and modem and all of that.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, is gonna be that huge leap, quantum leap.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but beyond the AI, I think is also the other part that is separate from it that is more organic is quantum computing.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: And quantum computing is much more multidimensional.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: So the processing power is also gonna be much bigger than we ever experienced.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: And those are two different technologies that I don't think can be really combined.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like you said, I don't think we have the manual or the playbook of how this is gonna turn out.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but we on the personal level and collective level can still choose.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: We will we'll have to start choosing now the timelines of where do we see ourselves?
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: What's let's say AI is taking over your job.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_01: What does that mean for you?
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like this career you had for, you know, even as a lawyer or a researcher, and now AI can do your job in three seconds.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: What does that look like for you?
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, where would you ultimately want to be?
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like maybe you want to be a farmer now, own land in Costa Rica, and I don't know, plant some coffee trees.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, it's just I think people are starting already to move towards that.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I think we're gonna be more in those places of co-creation and and like I said, more community because we'll realize we'll have to depend on each other, we'll have to exchange commodities.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: We'll have like if all of us lose our jobs, like we do that, right?
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't expect the universal income just to hit so easily.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's gonna be a lot of that struggle, and and through this struggle, we will figure out a way to do this together where it's gonna be about exchange.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so in some ways, it's gonna revert us back to our old days, which I think is great too, because we got so distracted, and I think we need to go back to that connection to nature and connection to each other.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's almost like um the returning to sort of like a more simple life, but with the benefit of the hindsight of the experiences we've gone through and that evolved um consciousness, so that we can be a bit more aware of how we behave in those environments, I guess, and not take things for granted quite so much.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so you mentioned your Oracle cards, you've also got a book.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna share your um your um let's call a call.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and we'll share links for those those two things with you and also um your website so that if people want to connect with you, they can find out more about all of the things you do.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, to close, if you if you'd be um willing to share an Oracle card, that would be amazing.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's see, and you can also listen to my podcast.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's on YouTube.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_01: But let's see what's the message to wrap it all up, right?
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see what the card, the card that is.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a perfect card.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_01: I can't see it's called Star Mesa, the console of many realms.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_01: So here we are, you know, we are in that place, and you sit at the table of many timelines.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, galactic elders, earth ancestors, and divine beings gather to connect with you.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_01: This is where we are right now.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_01: We are in this console, we're coming together to remember, but also, like I said, many timelines, right?
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah to choose which timeline.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: How perfect.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: This card is just really summarized it all.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: We in Star Mess.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um amazing.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's yeah, been so insightful.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_00: I love loved every minute of it, and I really appreciate your time.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Nadine, and thank you, everyone.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_01: And remember, you are powerful creative beings, stuck creating and introducing practices into your life to stay in that vibrational flow where it's just you know effortless and and beautiful.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_01: So you all have choices.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I hope this was insightful.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_01: And thank thank you everyone for being open, even if this was maybe a lot to receive also.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and open and being staying curious.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: And your book is uh a great source for people who are interested, who want to learn how to step into this um consciousness and yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: My book, Master Content Creation, I kind of explore and I cover a lot of different topics in each chapter, is really to activate that memory, to activate that um those gifts, and I have some also in a website that comes along with it with some meditations and activations.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of each chapter, I ask questions and like do have you do an activation and exercise.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: So the idea is to re-empower, and so I make it relatable.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_01: I share my own story, um, but a lot of these concepts, yeah.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_01: So it's some people really connect to it and they like the that I synthesize, you know, a lot of these concepts I mentioned today as well, from the quantum researchers, but also down to kind of the work you can do on a daily basis with yourself.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, do check it out.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's on Amazon, Diana Divine, yeah, and uh and come and to my Instagram and explore.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: I have masterclasses on a monthly basis.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_01: So come and see what resonates for you.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: Great, amazing.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate your time.
• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:01
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:15
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