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133. Going Bananas Over Diet Culture · Eat More Carbs | A Period Recovery Podcast

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  Hey girlies, just a quick reminder before we dive into
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  today's episode. The information shared on this
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  podcast is intended to be general sports nutrition advice
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  and education related to period. Recovery for female athletes.
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  Get your period back and keep it.
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  You can apply now to get started in our program and we'll leave
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  the link for the program below. This is the Eat more Carbs
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  podcast. Hello and welcome back.
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  This is the Mark Harps podcast. We are RBSN and we are a team of
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  dietitians and we talk every Thursday about sports nutrition
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  for the girlies. On today's episode, we're
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  actually talking about what drives us bananas.
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  So talking through the fueling misinformation, myths and things
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  that we saw online or just out in the wild, that absolutely
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  drove us bananas. Before we get into today's
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  episode, we are going to do our high and low, so sharing just a
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  little bit about our week. The good.
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  And the parts. We wish have gone.
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  A little bit. Differently, as always.
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  Riley, can you kick us off? Yes.
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  I love what drives us bananas episode gonna start off with my
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  high for this week. So this past weekend I actually
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  did a trail race. I think I shared about it on the
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  last podcast. I also shared a little bit about
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  it on Instagram. But my big will win from the
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  race was practicing my fueling strategy.
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  I've been just so excited about it and then nobody around me
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  cares like nobody understands. So I'm gonna share it with you
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  all because I'm really excited. I tried something new during my
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  trail run. I did 10 grams of carbohydrates
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  per mile. I like rotated between Swedish
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  Fish and like the Noog's gummies, I actually have them
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  right here because I was showing them to a client.
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  But I actually really liked this strategy.
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  And I know a lot of people out there think I'm crazy because I
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  like to chew things. I'm doing a gummy versus a gel,
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  but it actually worked out really well for me.
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  I got it in about 160 grams of carbs in 163 minutes.
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  Oh my gosh, amazing thank. You.
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  I know you understand. Everyone please take note of
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  this and know that like, if they're there is one thing to
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  take away from it, it is that not every fueling strategy needs
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  to work for you. You just need to find one that
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  does. And it might look different from
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  what everyone else around you is doing.
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  And that's exactly what you did. Is that like, you know, gels
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  don't traditionally work well for you.
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  So you found something that did and now you have like a great
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  base going into New York City Marathon with like knowing what
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  you can do to successfully fuel all 26.2.
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  I'm pumped. I think it's really interesting
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  that you bring up that point about how everybody's different.
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  I was talking about this yesterday, actually.
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  What a girl in our period recovery program.
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  And we were talking about how it can feel sometimes, like
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  intimidating when you show up to training or show up to practice
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  and you have your feeling strategy down, right?
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  Like I was joking. Like I showed up with 200 grams
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  of carbohydrates, a liter and a half of water on me.
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  I have all my sodium on me and like, I'm ready to go.
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  And the people around me, like have nothing.
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  Like they have nothing. And I'm like taking this
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  obviously probably way too seriously.
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  But you know, she was sharing that, you know, when she shows
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  up to practice, like she always has snacks or the girls on her
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  team are like, Oh, well, you know, Blank always has a snack,
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  like if you get hungry. And I just think that it can
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  sometimes be a little intimidating, like showing up
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  and having your fueling strategy down and it might look different
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  from somebody else's. So not a high.
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  Just had to add some nutrition in there.
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  My low this week, I don't know if it's technically a low, but
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  it's a little bit of a funny story.
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  And Charlie is my daughter. She's about 20 months now, which
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  is crazy. She's coming into her
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  personality, which is amazing. But girlfriend definitely has a
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  dude. She definitely has SAS and I am
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  not ready for it. I am not ready for it.
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  She will come up to me and be like all done, mom, mom and just
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  walk away. I'm like, thank you, thank you.
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  I kind of love her attitude. This is great.
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  Every time I wake her up in the morning she goes first thing,
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  bye. I'm like.
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  I'm not done sleeping. No, get out of here.
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  Bye mom. Mom, I'm like, OK.
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  Oh my God, that's. So.
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  Funny. Yeah.
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  So I'm in trouble. How are you?
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  How's your week going? My week is great.
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  My high is that obviously. Like I've been sharing on this
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  podcast for so long now, I. Took a.
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  Little bit of time away from running.
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  But I successfully ran. Back-to-back days without any.
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  Issues obviously like. After I'm done, my hamstring
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  like feels a little spicy for sure, but this was the first
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  time in a really long time that I've run back-to-back days,
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  which was like a huge win for me.
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  So I'm super excited about that. Obviously, I'm not like at the
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  green light to like go out and sign up for a race or anything
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  like that, despite the fact that this is kind of race season in
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  Arizona. But like I'm really excited to
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  be at a point that feels so much more comfortable than it did a
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  couple of months ago. So my low actually happened this
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  past weekend as well. We were doing some yard work.
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  We're new homeowners and it's always something that we seem to
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  be doing nowadays. We've joked about this before,
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  but we were cleaning some things out and I just looked over at
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  the corner of our garage and there was the biggest Black
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  Widow spider and I just have a. 0 tolerance policy with those
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  who are inhabiting my house and not paying rent.
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  And so it had to go. Like I think about it way too
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  much now. What's up with the bugs in
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  Arizona I. Told you I'm not right with I'm
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  not right with the Animal Planet right now it's.
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  Not one with nature. I'm not, it's not right, but
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  yeah. Just I had them in my house in
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  Colorado, but I was like younger and my parents were there to
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  take care of it. But like it was the first time I
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  had to do something about. It I was like I need to call the
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  exterminator and burn the house down.
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  Sells the house immediately. This for sale. $2.00 just
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  someone come, come take it. Oh my gosh, yeah.
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  Exactly. I'm really excited.
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  For today's episode though, and I'm really excited that Lily is
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  joining us too. If you're new to the Emark Harps
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  podcast, welcome. We're so excited for you to be.
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  Here I'm Jenna and I'm one of the dietitians at RBSN and I
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  work primary with our endurance athletes, our runners.
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  I'm so excited to talk with the RBSN team today about what
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  drives us bananas. Thanks for having.
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  Me, Jenna and Riley, I'm so excited to be here.
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  My name's Lily. If we haven't met yet, I'm one
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  of the newest performance dietitians at RBSN and I work
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  primarily with our post grad active girlies as well as our
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  CrossFit and High Rocks athletes.
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  And I'm Riley. I work with our team sport
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  athletes, so specifically lacrosse, SoC or basketball,
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  field hockey. And I also work with our, you
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  know, retired athletes and postpartum athletes.
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  OK, who's gonna kick us off today on what drives us Bananas?
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  I. Will go first since it's my
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  first what drives us bananas. I I'm ready to go.
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  OK, I'm. Excited.
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  Really. So I I am also recently post
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  grad and just moved to a new area, am looking for ways of
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  movement that I'm excited to get into and that has turned into me
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  going to fitness classes. I can't believe how often
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  fitness class instructors talk about our bodies, earning food
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  and all of those things. It makes me cringe every single
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  time. It's set.
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  So that's what is driving me bananas right now.
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  I find it absolutely wild that we still have people out there
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  that talk about exercise to earn food.
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  Like our bodies don't need to earn food.
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  Like, are we still misunderstanding the fact that
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  like bodies in general need fuel to just exist?
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  Yeah, like after a Football Sunday, someone being like
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  you're working off all the food that you ate during the football
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  game. Like no, that's not how this.
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  Works. I'm actually so glad that you
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  brought this up. I got some like workout, like
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  the loop bands, you know, like those little the loop bands and
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  on the back there's this huge sticker that's like a bad
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  workout is better than no workout.
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  And I'm like, I'm even like these bands are even getting
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  infiltrated by like diet and baldness culture.
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  And I just, I couldn't, I couldn't even deal with it.
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  It's everywhere. It's so insane.
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  One day maybe say something but I get too scared so.
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  Have you ever been to a fitness class where a fitness instructor
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  has said something positive about nutrition or feeling your
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  body? Not that I can think of.
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  I feel like the best that we get is when they don't say anything
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  at all about nutrition in our bodies.
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  I've been to 1. I know, I know.
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  And she was like very encouraging, like after the
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  class, she was like, remember after you finished today's
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  class, like you have to refuel your body.
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  I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was like a very
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  positive thing. But it wasn't like a specific
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  recommendation of like you need to get 20 grams of protein
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  within 20 minutes or anything like that.
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  It was just like, remember to refuel afterwards.
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  Like what you did was hard and you need to fuel your body.
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  And I was like, that's probably one of the best ones I've ever
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  heard. So I guess there are some good
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  ones out there, which is a good take away.
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  We'll spin that positive, yes. For sure.
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  Riley, what's driving you bananas this week?
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  So it kind of actually has to do with bananas.
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  Coincidentally, one of my clients, I promised her I would
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  use this as a what drives us bananas because she is now
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  looking for information online that's driving her banana so she
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  can report back so we can talk about it.
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  So I promised I would share about this.
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  She shared with me this man and there's there's multiple people
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  out there, there's probably thousands of accounts doing
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  this, but he is on the no protein diet.
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  He all needs fruit. What with all of these different
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  types? OK, let's really quickly recap.
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  We have 6 essential nutrients. Riley, do you mind defining what
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  that means? Essential nutrients are
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  nutrients that your body needs that you have to get through an
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  outside source. And we have six of them, right?
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  We have carbohydrates, we have proteins, we have fats.
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  Those are our macro nutrients. Then we have vitamins, minerals,
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  and water. And we need all six of these for
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  our bodies to efficiently work and to be optimized, even if
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  we're not even looking at athletic performance when we're
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  just looking at health. When we're looking at someone
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  who's non athletic or not involved in sport competitively,
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  it's still important for somebody to get all sex
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  essential nutrients. Oh, Jenna, it gets even worse.
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  And I I called you out specifically because this man is
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  a runner. Oh no.
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  Oh no. And he has a six pack and he
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  talks about how his non protein diet is what got him a six pack
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  and allows him to run fast. OK, running dietitian, how do we
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  feel about this? OK, I have a lot of thoughts,
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  but I'm just going to start with this.
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  As a dietitian that works primarily with our endurance
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  athletes, I am talking about carbohydrates quite a bit, but
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  that doesn't mean that I am neglecting looking at the other
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  essential nutrients that are important for all people and
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  runners too. Protein is still important as a
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  runner and as an. Athlete to have.
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  Part of your fueling plan. Does he eat vegetables at all?
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  Is it just fruit? It's just fruit.
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  I'm not, I'm not lying where this man, I watched him because
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  I was like so enthralled with his content.
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  And I'm like, I'm part of the problem.
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  But I, you know, we have to stay up to date with it.
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  This man ate 12 Peaches. I'm really worried about his.
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  GI to be thoroughly. Honest, like what's what?
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  Like I have so many questions about things and obviously like
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  we don't know what's going on behind the scenes as far as like
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  what his lab results are, what his GI does actually look like
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  and things like that. But.
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  From a very surface. Level.
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  I am very concerned about that being being all that we eat.
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  Also like how confusing is it as a consumer because you have
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  people on the Internet who are like only eating meat, only
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  eating butter, only eating fruit and they all are telling you
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  that this is the best way to fuel your body and they all have
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  6 packs and everybody's confused.
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  That's so true because like, who do you believe?
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  And every single one of those people that has their specific
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  diet that they're saying is the best one is selling their
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  physique as the, you know, poster or the sales pitch for
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  that specific type of fueling, right?
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  Like he's using his six. Pack to be like if you.
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  Eat like me, you will look like me.
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  And that's completely false. Like we know, we've talked about
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  it a million times. Like if the three of us were to
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  fuel the exact same way, we would still look different.
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  And so we can't just take someone else's fueling patterns,
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  apply them to ourselves, and then expect that we then look
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  like that person. Like that's.
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  It's that's not how. That's not how things work.
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  That's not Oh I. Hate that I think I hate.
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  That and I'm not saying his name because I don't want to give him
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  credit, but I just, it's just so confusing out there, especially
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  on social media now, like who to trust, who to listen to.
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  But I do think a big red flag out there when you are looking
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  at nutrition information and if it is a credible source, if
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  somebody is selling you on only a singular supplement or a
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  singular food group or a singular food item or is
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  promising results so that you look like them, right?
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  Because again, as dietitians, our goal isn't to make you look
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  like us, it's to make you the best version of yourself. 100%
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  anytime that a fueling pattern feels too restrictive, it.
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  Usually is Amen I've seen. A lot of people that do stuff
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  like that where they're like I only eat vegetables or I only
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  eat fruit. It's like taking the, you know,
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  plant based diet to an extreme. I do think it's funny though.
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  Not funny, it's not. This is not funny at all.
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  This is why driving bananas. But if you actually look at like
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  the macro nutrients, like if you ate 12 Peaches, like you are
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  going to at least probably get 3 to 4 grams of protein.
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  Like you cannot say that's a no protein diet because everything
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  does contain probably a little bit of protein.
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  You just have to eat 12 Peaches to get 5 grams of protein.
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  Right. And again then we're back to, is
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  your gut OK after eating all of that?
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  Because you'd have to consume quite a large amount of that in
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  order to get the amount of protein that your body requires.
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  Are these people are just lying like everybody just.
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  Right. Wasn't there somebody online who
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  claimed to consume only animal products and then it was
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  revealed later on that they were maybe using some illegal
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  substances in order to acquire a certain physique?
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  Oh, it was the lover King. He was selling people on his
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  supplements and then he was using anabolic.
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  Steroids correct? That's the one I was looking
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  for. Slipped my mind for a second.
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  But I mean, also, we're seeing that a ton right now with the
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  GOP ones and people, you know, selling their weight loss meal
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  plans. And Lily, I see you shaking your
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  head. You've seen this too.
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  On TikTok right now but pills, the GLP 1 pills that you could
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  take and they're everywhere. It's insane.
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  I do consume a lot of nutrition related media but I get probably
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  like 10 ads on TikTok a day. Wait.
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  I'm not on TikTok So what is? This it's ad for.
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  Pills that are GLP one mimic like what's going?
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  On that probably have nothing in them and they say they work the
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  same as a GLP one. Oh, that's horrific, Yes.
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  And it's a bunch of girls being like, this is how I get skinny
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  face. That's what I saw this week.
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  Skinny face, yeah. Wow, we have.
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  This up with this stuff, right? Oh, and stickers too, they have
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  like the nicotine stickers but like that kind of thing.
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  But it's they say it's GLP one. I have a little loss for
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  Warriors over that. Lily, I'm thankful that you're
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  here as our tick tock consultant because Jen and I are old and we
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  need. Sometimes I wish I didn't see
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  the things I see. Oh my gosh.
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  Wow. Oh, it's rough out there.
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  It is. Oh my gosh, it is.
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  Well, dinner I would say. Do you have good news for us?
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  But you also are going to have something that drives us
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  bananas. So what do you got?
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  This is pumpkin spice season and even though on previous Smash or
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  Pass episodes Riley and I have both passed on pumpkin spice, I
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  understand that it is a big thing that people like this time
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  of year and I think that's totally fine.
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  I am seeing so many people that go to Dunkin, Starbucks,
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  whatever and get their pumpkin spice latte, get an iced pumpkin
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  spice latte, get pumpkin bread, get something along along the
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  lines of like a fall flavored food item and then immediately
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  show in a jar, glass, whatever, the amount of sugar that is then
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  in that food item. And it is to create fear around
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  that specific thing. And I just want to remind
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  everyone that calories are just energy and we can utilize all
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  foods that are available to us in any way that is balanced and
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  provides our body with enough energy.
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  And we don't need to be afraid of every now and then having a
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  pumpkin spice latte if it's something that you enjoy.
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  And you don't need to miss out on pumpkin bread or pumpkin
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  cookies or anything that you like this time of year because
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  some man on Instagram showed you how much sugar was in it.
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  Everybody knows who I'm talking about because he uses the same
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  video. Every year but it.
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  Just drives me bananas. I think this is such a great
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  reminder going into the holiday season for everyone because it's
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  such a common thing, even like at family events and things like
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  that, for people to make comments on what's on other
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  people's plate or like having pie at Thanksgiving and things
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  like that. Also a little offended that we I
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  have two passers on pumpkin spice because I'm a pumpkin
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  spice stand. I love pumpkin spice but I will
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  be enjoying my pumpkin spice latte.
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  See I. Can't sit with us, Lily.
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  I'm a big fan of like a Maple flavor or something like that.
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  Like I'm, I'm going to pick that over pumpkin spice every single
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  time. But I think this kind of ties
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  back into what drove you bananas in that, like, people talk a lot
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  about, you know, earning food or working off food.
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  And as we do kind of head into this holiday season that's
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  coming up, we're gonna hear a lot of that.
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  It's like we think about like, I mean, gosh, Thanksgiving's not
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  for a while now, but it's going to be here sooner than we know
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  it. And we hear a lot of those same
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  type of things around how are you going to work off your
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  holiday meals or how are you going to offset your holiday
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  meals? So it all just kind of like ties
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  together and part of like creating the fear around the
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  food in the 1st place because we don't want people to consume
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  things that they enjoy for some reason.
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  And then telling people that they need to exercise for
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  extreme amounts or for long periods of time in order to be
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  able to consume them if they were going to have them.
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  So neither of those two things are true.
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  If you want a pumpkin spice latte, you go for it and you
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  don't need to earn it or work it off or anything like that.
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  It's so interesting that depending on what side of the
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  Internet you're on and like what you're surrounded with and your,
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  you know, relationship to food is, it can really just change
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  your perspective on things. Because right now, as I've
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  shared multiple times on this podcast, I am marathon training
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  and I am trying to figure out how I can get in carbohydrates
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  as much as possible. And I see, you know, something
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  that has, you know, a beverage like this that has carbohydrates
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  and, and I think, Oh my gosh, that's such an easy way to get
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  in more carbohydrates. But then you have people on the
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  Internet that are like, carbohydrates are terrible.
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  But again, it just really just depends.
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  There's always different ways to look at things.
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  Yeah. Just like when we're talking
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  about period recovery, something that we've talked about with
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  athletes before is like if they enjoy a latte or if they want
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  something like that, like we can have that as part of their
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  fueling because it might be easier for them to get in
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  something like that because liquid energy and liquid fuel is
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  sometimes easier for them to tolerate.
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  And that falls into the same category.
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  Yeah, I just think it's so interesting because like, Nerds
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  gummies are really big right now, like in the endurance and
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  running space, and I'm sure you've both seen stuff about
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  them, but you have to eat 16 gummies to get 25 grams of
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  carbohydrates. And I'm like, that's so many
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  gummies and not enough carbohydrates.
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  But again, like, you know, on the other side of the Internet
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  people are saying like 25 grams of sugar is so bad.
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  But again, it's just, it's all very interesting on how you look
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  at it. How you look at it, what your
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  body needs like we're a podcast that talks about sports
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  nutrition and getting your period back.
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  We're not talking about other population who might need to be
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  monitoring how much sugar that they're including in their diet.
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  You know, that's not what we're talking about here.
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  So again, like this all just kind of goes back to like, it's
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  what your body needs. It's so individualized and
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  unique to you, and there's more than one right way to get there
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  and all of those things that we could.
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  Say, I think we end it right there.
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  Well, if there are things that you saw online that drove you
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  bananas this week, leave them in the comments of this podcast.
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  We'd love to hear the feeling misinformation that you saw.
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  If you do have questions for Riley, Lily or myself, you can
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  find us online. You can find Riley at Easy
• 18:37
  Sports Nutrition, you can find Lily at Lily Reimer Nutrition,
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  and you can find me at Jenna Fisher Nutrition.
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  Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the Eat More
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  Carbs Podcast. Please make sure you rate,
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  subscribe and review. And as always, remember to eat
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  more carbs.