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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the show. Today I'm out and about, so
- 0:03expect to hear some noise in the background.
- 0:06Today we're going to be looking at a listener question.
- 0:09And this question is, should you open a corporate account?
- 0:13And this is a question that I got from a listener of the show.
- 0:16Her name is Felicia. So Felicia, this is the answer.
- 0:19I know I already answered you in the WhatsApp messages, but still
- 0:23I want to come over here and share some of the stuff that we
- 0:27spoke about so that other people can learn from this interaction
- 0:31as well. Oh, sorry, one moment.
- 0:36OK, sorry about that. I had to attend to something
- 0:38real quick. So today's question, should you
- 0:41be opening a corporate account? A question from Felicia, Her
- 0:46concern behind the question was whether it affects your business
- 0:51credibility, you know, whether some people rate you too high or
- 0:55rate you too low, whether you have an account.
- 0:57And unfortunately The thing is, yes, some people in Nigeria are
- 1:00going to rate you somehow if you're doing business as a
- 1:03self-employed person or yeah, if you're doing business as a
- 1:07self-employed person, if all you have is just a registered
- 1:10business name and you do not have a proper corporate entity,
- 1:13that's a company that is limited.
- 1:17What are they called again? Limited liability company, yes.
- 1:20So if you don't have a limited liability company, you're
- 1:22operating as a sole proprietor, operating as self-employed
- 1:27person, operating as business name, yes, there are some people
- 1:31that are going to rate you low as they'll look at you, they'll
- 1:33look down on you. So unfortunately it's one of
- 1:36those things. But as we talk about this thing
- 1:39more, you find out that there are other reasons why you should
- 1:42consider opening a business account.
- 1:43And so this whole thing of whether it affects your
- 1:46credibility, it's just one factor to consider.
- 1:52OK. Another thing that we looked at
- 1:54was whether not having a corporate account makes it
- 1:56difficult to close some deals. And yes, sometimes it is going
- 2:01to make it more difficult to close some deals because there
- 2:04are some companies that it is a legal requirement that they can
- 2:08only pay contractors or vendors or whoever who have LLCS, who
- 2:14have companies, limited liability companies who have
- 2:17registered with Corporate Affairs Commission and who have
- 2:21tax, what's it called? Tax, tax TIN, yes, TIN tax
- 2:27identification number and who have made remittances, you know,
- 2:31to the government and blah, blah, blah.
- 2:32So yes, there are some of those businesses that before they pay
- 2:34you, you know, before they sign the deal, they will say why?
- 2:37I show us your CAC registration is OK CAC registration is here.
- 2:40Show us your bank account is OK. This is bank account.
- 2:44Show us your TIN number. So this is TIN number, show us
- 2:46your tax, tax clearance for 2024.
- 2:48You know, it's OK, this is tax clearance.
- 2:50So there are some people that you have to go through this
- 2:53hassle or else they cannot pay you.
- 2:55And it's a, it's a, it's more of a legal requirement.
- 3:00So if they deal with somebody else who doesn't meet all these
- 3:02things and they will be breaking the law.
- 3:04So if you're doing business with international NGOs, you're doing
- 3:08business with British Council, DFID, USAID, although I don't
- 3:13know if USAID is still in business, you know, 'cause since
- 3:16Trump came in and put the Kabush on everything, just, you know,
- 3:20guy, just scatter everything. So I don't know if USAID is
- 3:22still running things in Niger. So, but if you're trying to deal
- 3:26with Okaden is also a Jika Japan International Cooperative
- 3:30Agency, it'd be something like that JICA.
- 3:33So if you're doing business with any all of those bodies, them,
- 3:35them, yes, you do need all those things.
- 3:37Go and register with CAC. What else?
- 3:40Go and register with CAC. Go and register with the inline
- 3:43Revenue Service. Get your team, make sure you do
- 3:46your tax clearance, your everything.
- 3:48If you're doing business with ministries, you're doing
- 3:51business with government, Paris details, you won't need all of
- 3:54that. So yes, they are in some of
- 3:56those instances. Some people are required by law
- 4:00only to deal with people who have registered a business
- 4:02entity and who have a corporate account.
- 4:05Then there are other businesses who just do that as a matter of
- 4:07general policy, that we're only going to do business with
- 4:11companies that have a corporate account and that are registered.
- 4:15So it's just one of those things.
- 4:16It's not anything that is within your control, but really, are
- 4:23these the main reasons why you should open a business account
- 4:26or a corporate account and register a limited liability
- 4:29company? If you're trying to do it to
- 4:31sell better, then the answer is no.
- 4:33Because the distinguishing factor when it comes to selling
- 4:36your business or selling your services and the distinguishing
- 4:39factor that will show your credibility should all be built
- 4:42around you, should all be built around your selling framework,
- 4:46your ability to understand value, your ability to
- 4:49demonstrate value. That should be the
- 4:51distinguishing factor because if you're relying on this whole
- 4:58thing of you have a limited company that is a limited
- 5:00liability company, you have corporate account and
- 5:02everything. The thing is all of that only
- 5:04comes up at payment stage at the end.
- 5:08So you have to be confident in yourself at the beginning.
- 5:11So take me for instance, I'm here making this podcast.
- 5:15I'm talking to you. A whole bunch of you are going
- 5:16to reach out to me and you have no idea whether I have a company
- 5:21that is registered or not. If I have a company that has
- 5:24registered, you do not know the name.
- 5:25And to be honest, it's not until we get to the time of payment
- 5:28that you now know that oh OK, this guy has a, a limited
- 5:32liability company and you know the, the business name is
- 5:37separate from the guys name. So these things only come up our
- 5:40payment anyway. So do not make these things to
- 5:44be the main thing that is making you show up confidently to the
- 5:47table to come and now talk to somebody and negotiate and stuff
- 5:49like that. So you have to be the
- 5:51distinguishing factor. So that doesn't.
- 5:54So it's not the main reason why I should open a a business
- 5:56account. Now this whole thing of easier
- 5:58payments and broadening the pool of people that you're going to
- 6:01be able to do business with, you know, yeah, that might be a good
- 6:04reason, but it's not the only reason.
- 6:06Because to be honest, for years when I was doing work with some
- 6:09NGOs, I found out all my payments through other people's
- 6:13companies. By the way, this is not
- 6:15recommended. One of the reasons I did that is
- 6:17because this is international NGOs, they have this net 30
- 6:20policy. And I just didn't like this
- 6:22whole thing that, you know, have don't work for you January 1st,
- 6:25you're not going to pay me until, you know, January 29th or
- 6:29something like that. So what I used to do was I had
- 6:32partnerships with certain event planners that look, any business
- 6:37that is coming through these people that are going to pay me,
- 6:42I'm going to put your company on all the paperwork.
- 6:45So they'll pay the money to you. When the thing comes remove, how
- 6:49will I put it? So they're going to pay all the
- 6:51money through to you. You give me 80 or 90% of the
- 6:55payment value. And then when the time, when the
- 6:57time for payment comes clear, you know, you take the whole
- 7:00money. In other words, this is what I
- 7:01was doing. I go and do business for OK, let
- 7:06me use GCA, for instance, even though I never did business with
- 7:09GCA, that's a Japan International Cooperative
- 7:12something something I'll be development organ, I can't
- 7:15remember, but the Japanese version of of USAID.
- 7:21So let's say I go and do business with Jika.
- 7:24This is what I used to do in the old days, though.
- 7:26I'm not saying you must do this, but I'm just trying to show you
- 7:28how I used to get around to this whole payment thing.
- 7:33I want to meet a wedding planner and say, look, I'm providing
- 7:35photography to these people and we have agreed that they're
- 7:39going to pay me 100K. They normally pay 30 days.
- 7:43They require people to have registration, corporate account,
- 7:45this, this and that and that. And look, me, I don't have any
- 7:47of this. So this is the deal.
- 7:51I'll put your name on the paperwork after I do the job.
- 7:56Even though the money is supposed to be 100K.
- 8:00You just give me, you pay me 80 K directly as soon as I finish
- 8:05this job, then at the end of 30 days, the company is going to
- 8:08pay you the full 100K. So you have now profited 20K for
- 8:14just using me to allow your company to funnel through the
- 8:17payments, you know, So is that OK with you?
- 8:19And some people don't mind that kind of setup.
- 8:22In fact, there was one guy I used to do with steady and
- 8:25that's actually how I started doing work with the British
- 8:27Council because after a while I had done enough work with them
- 8:31and was a matter of look, we've been dealing with you for such a
- 8:34long time, so just come and regularize this thing.
- 8:36And you know, that is how I actually set up my first
- 8:40business account was so that I could now get payments with
- 8:44international NGOs and you know, all these sorts of stuff.
- 8:49But I'm just saying that in the beginning, even when I didn't
- 8:52have that, it didn't stop me. I'll still go ahead to secure
- 8:54the job. But then I agree with somebody
- 8:56like, look, it is you I'm using for payment.
- 8:59They will pay you. But The thing is, I don't want
- 9:00to wait 30 days. So just give me 80 K or give me
- 9:0470 K when they pay you, you keep the balance OF20K, you keep the
- 9:08balance of 30K. And you know, we're good.
- 9:10And some people don't mind that kind of arrangement at all.
- 9:15So maybe you might wonder, is all this ethical or unethical?
- 9:17You know, I'll leave that for those of us who business lawyers
- 9:22to decide or to educate us. But what I'm trying to say is
- 9:26that if you're looking at being able to sell better, no, that's
- 9:30not the only reason why I should set up a business account.
- 9:32If you're looking at the whole thing of easier payments, no,
- 9:34that's not the only reason to set up a corporate account.
- 9:37So in my own opinion, the best reason, the absolute best reason
- 9:41to set up a corporate account, a business account is for
- 9:45separation of accounts and to avoid Co mingling.
- 9:49Commingling just means I have money, I throw it in one
- 9:52account, my business has money, we throw it in another account,
- 9:56my wife has money, we throw it in the same account.
- 9:59At the end of the day, we're looking at the account and we
- 10:01don't know which money is my own, which money is my wife's
- 10:04own, which money is the business own.
- 10:07This thing can get very, very messy and is one of the reasons
- 10:09why some businesses die because you're commingling.
- 10:12You don't know what belongs to the business, what should go
- 10:16back to the business, you know, things like that.
- 10:17It makes separating things very, very hard.
- 10:19So for me, that is the best reason to have a corporate
- 10:23account, so that commingling will not become an issue, so
- 10:26that when is my money, it will go into my account.
- 10:28If it's my wife's money, he enters into my account no
- 10:30problem. But one that is business money
- 10:32will go straight to the business account so that we'll avoid one
- 10:36of the big causes of businesses, which is that people commingle.
- 10:39You can't separate things and then the business Staffs at the
- 10:41end of the day. Then another reason why you
- 10:44should have your corporate account is for accountability
- 10:46purposes. As everything is entering and
- 10:49all the pinging is going there on the business statement.
- 10:52Abby is a business statement on the bank statement, yes,
- 10:55everything will be there. That Chukwudi transferred, this,
- 10:59buyer transferred, that Celestina transferred this On
- 11:03this date, you know everything will be there.
- 11:04You'll be able to track your inflows and your outflows and
- 11:08that way with that accountability, you're going to
- 11:10be able to track your business growth.
- 11:12So after I got my corporate account and then when I started
- 11:15working with my accountant, I don't have one anymore.
- 11:19But the first accountant, when I started working with him, yeah,
- 11:22all I had to do was just print out all these bank statements,
- 11:24you know, send to him. Then let's see what else.
- 11:27All the other receipts, you know, you pay for photo book,
- 11:30you pay for frames, you pay for this, pay for that, send him all
- 11:32the receipts. He was able to use all of that
- 11:35to be able to create a picture of OK for this year.
- 11:38This is how much money that came into the business.
- 11:41This is how much that we spent. This is how much that is
- 11:43profits, you know, stuff like that.
- 11:46So yes, I would say these are the best reasons to open a
- 11:48corporate account. Number one, avoid Co mingling.
- 11:51Separate the accounts. Let's not mix everything so your
- 11:54business will not suffer because it's not receiving the money
- 11:56that it should. Then #2 accountability.
- 11:59Let's be able to track business growth.
- 12:00Let things be clear and #3 tax liability, yes.
- 12:05So your tax liability is also going to be to be clear.
- 12:08You'll now be able to know, OK, how much do I owe the
- 12:11government? It is easier to work through all
- 12:14these sorts of things if you do not Co mingle your account.
- 12:19And for my dealing with my accountant is also one of the
- 12:22things that made things easier. So back when I used to run
- 12:25everything through my Keystone account, you know, as in my own
- 12:28personal issues, I used to run it through Keystone account, my
- 12:32family issues actually running through my keystore account,
- 12:34business money actually running through my keystore account.
- 12:37So he used to give my accountants a serious headache,
- 12:40serious nightmares trying to separate everything.
- 12:43But once we set up the corporate account and then I started
- 12:46tracking everything, now everything was a whole lot
- 12:48easier. We now knew clearly how much we
- 12:50owed. And then by the time we showed
- 12:52up to inline Revenue Service, the, you know, trust the idiots
- 12:55now, they'll come for us. They'll come for a pound of
- 12:58pound of flesh. And I said, oh, OK, no problem.
- 13:01You have given us clear accounts.
- 13:03But what about the year this and the year this and the year that?
- 13:05No clear account for that. And now some of us penalty work.
- 13:09And then I had to pay. I think back then I paid like
- 13:1160,000 naira in penalties. But what I'm, what I'm just
- 13:16trying to say is that to make sure everything is nice and
- 13:18clear, you don't want into trouble with inline Revenue
- 13:20Service or whoever it is that is trying to tax you, you know,
- 13:24whether municipal council or whatever.
- 13:26It just makes more sense to have a corporate account so that
- 13:29everything is clear. So that's my own opinion.
- 13:32Should you open a corporate account?
- 13:33I'm going to leave that to you. Is it going to affect your
- 13:35credibility? Yes, with some people, some
- 13:37people will look down on you like a small friend because you
- 13:39don't have a registered company and you don't have a separate
- 13:42bank account. But any leave those people,
- 13:45that's not your problem. Just focus on what the main
- 13:47issues are. Do you need that corporate
- 13:49account to close some deals with NGOs and para State House and
- 13:52government ministries? You know, yes.
- 13:53So go ahead and get that sorted. But the main reason is not so
- 13:57that you can sell better. You should be distinguishing
- 14:01factor and you should be confident when you come to the
- 14:02table in you, in your product and in your selling process.
- 14:07That is what should give you the confidence.
- 14:08So you can say well, because people don't even know all the
- 14:12LLC and corporate accounting until we get to the payment
- 14:15stage then. So the best reason why you
- 14:18should have a corporate account and why I'd recommend the
- 14:20corporate account is don't do Co mingling.
- 14:23It will lead to the business to die because they're choking the
- 14:25business. The business won't get the money
- 14:26it needs because it's Co mingling.
- 14:29Then accountability will be hard.
- 14:31Then when it now comes to dealing with tax issues, your
- 14:34accountant is going to have a nightmare trying to figure this
- 14:37thing out. So that's all for today.
- 14:40Thank you very much for listening to the show.
- 14:41If you'd love to connect with me because you have a question, a
- 14:44similar question, a different question, or because you want a
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- 15:24time and attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 15:26episode.