Latest / Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast / Episode 65 - With Laura O'Reilly (Part 3)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: You are listening to Tom's Hirshprun's podcast, where I provide
- 0:08Speaker 1: a look into the remarkable experiences of the most inspiring
- 0:11Speaker 1: people around Hirshprung's disease and sports. Hello and welcome to
- 0:40Speaker 1: episode sixty five of Tom's Hirsprunks podcast. I am delighted
- 0:44Speaker 1: to welcome back my first ever three time guest, Laura. Laura,
- 0:49Speaker 1: welcome back.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Thank you. It's so good to be back. Like three times,
- 0:54Speaker 2: You'll be thinking I do not speak about but I
- 0:57Speaker 2: always do.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Oh you do, you definitely do. No, we we have.
- 1:02Speaker 1: And anybody who hasn't listened to episode or your first
- 1:06Speaker 1: episode and which was episode seventeen, and then your second
- 1:11Speaker 1: episode with you and Dan, which was episode thir T
- 1:16Speaker 1: three thirty four, sorry, Yeah, really really interesting story. So
- 1:22Speaker 1: if you haven't listened to those, go and listen to
- 1:24Speaker 1: those that really really interested about your your fitness journey
- 1:27Speaker 1: or IBT journey. But we're not necessarily here to talk
- 1:31Speaker 1: about your whole story because we've done that before. We're
- 1:34Speaker 1: here to talk about a little bit about an event
- 1:37Speaker 1: that you've just competed in. Yeah, you've finished last week
- 1:41Speaker 1: as we sit here now, and we're also going to
- 1:45Speaker 1: talk a little bit about a company that you've been
- 1:49Speaker 1: seen as an ambassador, contributing founder. I can't remember how
- 1:52Speaker 1: they worded it, something like that. Yeah, and then a
- 1:55Speaker 1: couple of other things that we'll leave for later in
- 1:58Speaker 1: the episode as well. But if we start, I guess
- 2:02Speaker 1: from last last weekend.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Last yeah, this day, this time, last week.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Yeah, as we sit here in the middle of March.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Obviously everybody else will be listening to this a little
- 2:14Speaker 1: bit later, but yeah, so sort of beginning of March,
- 2:18Speaker 1: would you like to tell everybody about that event?
- 2:22Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically my coach is an IBD fitness coach,
- 2:29Speaker 2: so all of his clients have IBD, so we basically
- 2:31Speaker 2: are all in the same boat or shut storm excuse
- 2:36Speaker 2: the French, but you know what I mean.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I was all right, you're fined to swear on here,
- 2:40Speaker 1: it's called good.
- 2:42Speaker 2: So we all have the exact same challenges. So basically
- 2:47Speaker 2: everyone in the group. Dan created this event like as
- 2:53Speaker 2: an opportunity for all of us to meet up in
- 2:56Speaker 2: London last weekend, so it's been planet It was planned
- 3:01Speaker 2: for like months in advance. I'm obviously in Ireland, but
- 3:05Speaker 2: majority of his clients are the guests are English, are British,
- 3:10Speaker 2: so it made more sense. And I mean it's only
- 3:12Speaker 2: an hour on the flight for me, it's no big deal.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I probably travel less than some of them, you know.
- 3:18Speaker 2: So yeah, So it was like a weekend event in London.
- 3:22Speaker 2: It was gym based for the Saturday. So Friday was
- 3:24Speaker 2: just like meeting everybody and we just kind of had
- 3:29Speaker 2: a few drinks and well it was late evening anyway,
- 3:31Speaker 2: so it was a very quick kind of made up.
- 3:33Speaker 2: But it was lovely because you chat to so many
- 3:36Speaker 2: people online, like online is amazing, but to actually go
- 3:40Speaker 2: like to meet them in person is crazy. And like
- 3:44Speaker 2: I sparked up so many friendships whinin the group, like
- 3:49Speaker 2: even more on a personal level, you know, Like, so
- 3:53Speaker 2: just to meet them in person is just was just
- 3:56Speaker 2: so exciting. It was lovely. So then on Saturday more
- 4:00Speaker 2: it was upperly breakfast go to the gym event which
- 4:06Speaker 2: was in It was called Gym Box. So the gym's
- 4:10Speaker 2: in the UK actually a Mayad, not even London, Like
- 4:14Speaker 2: I feel like I'm stuck in the sticks with my
- 4:16Speaker 2: gym versus the gym's in the UK, like they're amazing.
- 4:22Speaker 2: So I was like a kid in a candy shop, like,
- 4:24Speaker 2: if you can imagine my energy now, Tom, I was like,
- 4:27Speaker 2: PA wasn't. So then yeah, everybody met at the gym.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Really cool. The energy was just really amazing, like everyone
- 4:40Speaker 2: was in such good form. Nobody kind of knew what
- 4:42Speaker 2: to expect because he kept a lot of the details
- 4:45Speaker 2: to himself, which is fair enough, so there was nerves like,
- 4:50Speaker 2: oh my god, what's going to happen? Blah blah blah.
- 4:53Speaker 2: So we all got our kind of t shirts, went off,
- 4:56Speaker 2: got changed, We went into like a studio room for
- 5:00Speaker 2: for like an hour, and that in itself was just
- 5:06Speaker 2: lovely to get to know people because he done like
- 5:09Speaker 2: the whole icebreaker thing or like stand up speak about yourself,
- 5:14Speaker 2: where you're at and that kind of thing. So it
- 5:16Speaker 2: was really interesting to know more about people, I suppose
- 5:20Speaker 2: because you don't really get that online a suchgy it
- 5:22Speaker 2: was just always just a quick chat, so that was
- 5:26Speaker 2: really nice. Then we did like a quiz. It was
- 5:30Speaker 2: like a mister fact about like all about fitness. So
- 5:33Speaker 2: it was really funny because some obvious things you'd be
- 5:36Speaker 2: like second guessing yourself, so people were like going to
- 5:40Speaker 2: the left of the rumor to the right for like
- 5:42Speaker 2: true or falls, and yeah, it was just really funny.
- 5:46Speaker 2: And then what do we do after that? So all
- 5:50Speaker 2: Dan spoke a lot on like just fitness terminology, you know, metabolism,
- 5:56Speaker 2: all that kind of interest and stuff, got really cool pictures.
- 6:00Speaker 2: He actually even had a photographer there, so it was
- 6:02Speaker 2: it was like it was planned really well. And then
- 6:07Speaker 2: when we'd done that, we went down to the gym floor.
- 6:09Speaker 2: So he'd set up like he'd split us all up
- 6:12Speaker 2: into teams and the challenges were so see who could
- 6:19Speaker 2: dead hang the longest, which was one.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Yes, see a few videos on Instagram about that.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I would be pretty competitive in my
- 6:29Speaker 3: own head, so like one of the guys Ross was
- 6:33Speaker 3: all week like just tormenting me, like you know, you
- 6:37Speaker 3: don't have a hope, blah blah blah, and I'm like, right,
- 6:40Speaker 3: I need to like make myself known here.
- 6:44Speaker 2: But no, he did win me by ten seconds, so
- 6:46Speaker 2: I was like human, So I think he got like
- 6:51Speaker 2: two minutes and one second. I was like one minute
- 6:56Speaker 2: fifty one or something like that.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Long time. Yeah, and for anybody who's who's on, I
- 7:02Speaker 1: guess I'm sure about that. It's just hanging from gim bar.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Isn't it basically yeah, just your body right, and then
- 7:11Speaker 2: oh my god, the assault bike. Have you ever been
- 7:14Speaker 2: on one?
- 7:15Speaker 1: I have not.
- 7:16Speaker 2: No, don't do it, okay, I hit twice. Nobody to
- 7:20Speaker 2: do the assault bike. So it was basically to burn
- 7:23Speaker 2: thirty calories in the fastest time we might meet Bobby
- 7:29Speaker 2: and Libby, so that was my team. We said, do
- 7:31Speaker 2: you know what, Let's do that first because that's the worst. Now.
- 7:35Speaker 2: The other two guys hadn't been on it either, so
- 7:37Speaker 2: I was like, right, I'll go first. Oh my gosh,
- 7:41Speaker 2: so obviously, God it's done nearly full off the bike
- 7:45Speaker 2: in a weakness like it's horrendous, Like it's just disgusting exercise.
- 7:50Speaker 2: It takes everybody, Like my chest tightened off. I was like,
- 7:54Speaker 2: what the hell is going on? I thought I was
- 7:56Speaker 2: going to vomit at one point, but they're all very
- 7:58Speaker 2: common things to feel our to the assault bike. It's
- 8:01Speaker 2: basically the name like it assaults you. So we got that.
- 8:06Speaker 2: And then it was a chest press, so it was
- 8:12Speaker 2: to see how many reps you could do on a
- 8:13Speaker 2: certain weight for men versus women. And then the last
- 8:18Speaker 2: one was a one arm deadlift. So it's just like
- 8:22Speaker 2: covering over the bar and adding the weight and see
- 8:25Speaker 2: however you could go. So I got to fifty five kg,
- 8:29Speaker 2: which felt good, like lift him at one arm, I
- 8:31Speaker 2: was like, okay, not doing too bad. The minute I
- 8:34Speaker 2: got to sixty it wouldn't move, So I was like, okay,
- 8:37Speaker 2: that's me.
- 8:38Speaker 1: You know where you are, you know you were.
- 8:41Speaker 2: But that was amazing the energy in that one because
- 8:43Speaker 2: one of the guys really pushed himself and you know,
- 8:47Speaker 2: one of the people that don't think they can do something,
- 8:50Speaker 2: and it was just like the spurring on of the
- 8:52Speaker 2: team going like you can do it, like you can
- 8:54Speaker 2: do this, and he did it, and he smashed like
- 8:57Speaker 2: one hundred and ten kg one arm deadlift, and it
- 9:00Speaker 2: was just like the masses of celebrations in the gym.
- 9:02Speaker 2: I'd say, everybody else in the gym are like what
- 9:04Speaker 2: in the name of God is the scroup doing? But
- 9:09Speaker 2: it was just amazing. Then we all went for food
- 9:12Speaker 2: and everyone had the most amazing time, like you know,
- 9:17Speaker 2: all the girls got pictures and we were just hanging out.
- 9:20Speaker 2: And then that evening we all went for like a
- 9:23Speaker 2: team dinner and one or two drinks and we were
- 9:27Speaker 2: all exhausted, so and everybody was traveling back early Sunday morning.
- 9:33Speaker 2: So yeah, that was the event, and I just think
- 9:38Speaker 2: like Dan was really taken back by how amazing it went,
- 9:42Speaker 2: and everybody's like, when's the next one? When's the next one?
- 9:45Speaker 2: So I think he's under pressure now.
- 9:48Speaker 1: He's going to out do himself. They can't just do
- 9:50Speaker 1: the side things.
- 9:51Speaker 2: He's going to have to take it to the next level.
- 9:55Speaker 2: But yeah, like it's it's it's amazing. I was sad
- 9:59Speaker 2: to go though, because obviously I've made some really good
- 10:02Speaker 2: friends and because they don't live over there, it's you know,
- 10:05Speaker 2: I get over and back as much as they can,
- 10:07Speaker 2: but it's always lovely to meet them. M hm.
- 10:12Speaker 1: So that was.
- 10:13Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the gym event, and like he sent
- 10:15Speaker 4: you all the professional pictures from the photographer and it
- 10:19Speaker 4: was just it was done perfectly, like it was a
- 10:22Speaker 4: lot of effort went into it, but it paid off.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Everyone's buzzing, you know.
- 10:26Speaker 1: So absolutely. And I think you touched on the point
- 10:30Speaker 1: there where you talked about meeting people and it's it's
- 10:34Speaker 1: really different meeting people in real life as such and
- 10:40Speaker 1: the people that you constantly chat online. I know I
- 10:43Speaker 1: had a similar experience last month at the Hirshprung's conference.
- 10:47Speaker 1: So people have you have Facebook messaged or in Instagram's
- 10:51Speaker 1: DM or whatever, and then you you kind of and
- 10:54Speaker 1: you all get together in real life. It is it is,
- 10:58Speaker 1: it's different, but it's it's it's one. And imagine you
- 11:00Speaker 1: had the similar experience.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Honestly, Like it's so nice to see to meet people
- 11:07Speaker 2: in person. Like obviously I had made a few prior,
- 11:12Speaker 2: but there was others that I'd never met, and you
- 11:16Speaker 2: get a sense for their persona I guess from just
- 11:19Speaker 2: being online, but you can't beat the in person catch
- 11:24Speaker 2: up like really like amazing, amazing. Yeah, And I just
- 11:29Speaker 2: think you can like speak a little bit more about
- 11:31Speaker 2: your own condition and your own journey as well, And
- 11:36Speaker 2: it's just it's just so inspiring because you never hear
- 11:42Speaker 2: the finer details as much as you would in person,
- 11:44Speaker 2: you know, so no.
- 11:46Speaker 1: There's only so much you can send in a text.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Yeah, Like even so much as sitting down having food
- 11:51Speaker 2: after the event. It was like, oh, oh I love that,
- 11:54Speaker 2: but I can eat that because of my stupid disease.
- 11:56Speaker 2: And you know these kinds like just billy things was
- 11:59Speaker 2: so watch in common.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds that sounds excellent. And so how
- 12:06Speaker 1: many people roughly were there, because I suppose you.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I think it was was it fifteen twelve or fifteen maybe,
- 12:13Speaker 2: And a lot of the guys is probably really easy
- 12:16Speaker 2: access for them to get into London because they would
- 12:19Speaker 2: live probably like a tube. Right away, we won't even
- 12:21Speaker 2: speak about the tubes because me from little low Cark,
- 12:25Speaker 2: who have won train around the whole country, nearly lost
- 12:27Speaker 2: my life really difficult. And then like I was midway
- 12:33Speaker 2: on the train and the next stop was like canceled,
- 12:36Speaker 2: So I'm like, what the hell do I do? I
- 12:39Speaker 2: really felt like Dora like honestly, but I did it.
- 12:44Speaker 2: I survived, he.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Got there and back. Yeah, So with the event itself,
- 12:53Speaker 1: you mentioned quite a few different things that you did.
- 12:57Speaker 1: So they sort of set out as lots of different
- 12:59Speaker 1: stations and you just kind of went round and did
- 13:02Speaker 1: them all. Is that kind of artworked? Yeah?
- 13:04Speaker 2: And luckily enough actually everything was almost like in a triangle,
- 13:08Speaker 2: so we were all within like arms reach you could say,
- 13:11Speaker 2: from the next station. Almost The way it worked out
- 13:14Speaker 2: was actually perfect. I don't think it was intended to
- 13:18Speaker 2: work out that way, but it just did. So it
- 13:20Speaker 2: was really handy. So like I could be standing here
- 13:23Speaker 2: doing something and I can see like Vicky ready to
- 13:26Speaker 2: lift the one arm deadlift, and you'd be like, go on, Vicky,
- 13:29Speaker 2: you know. And not to mention how crazy the gym was,
- 13:34Speaker 2: like the machines were just like I just don't have
- 13:38Speaker 2: them here. So for me, I was in my absolute element.
- 13:42Speaker 2: I could have stayed there the entire day. There was
- 13:44Speaker 2: a boxing ring right in the middle of the gym.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Okay, just have a good fight if things go wrong, like.
- 13:50Speaker 2: You know, the gloves were there to be taken. It
- 13:55Speaker 2: was just it was incredible. I'll never forget it, Like
- 13:59Speaker 2: it was so cool.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Yeah, that's brilliant. And I know you mentioned as well
- 14:04Speaker 1: as well as meeting people that that sense of community
- 14:09Speaker 1: as well, because it's again different online communities. Great, fantastic, Yeah,
- 14:16Speaker 1: lots of people involved, like they involved with a lot
- 14:19Speaker 1: of Hirschbrung's you know communities and speech people all the
- 14:22Speaker 1: time that to have sort of be amongst people that
- 14:28Speaker 1: are not just all really into fitness but all have
- 14:32Speaker 1: Was it all IBD as well or is it?
- 14:34Speaker 2: Yeah, so has ABD. But as you said, like it
- 14:37Speaker 2: really is like you know, the diseases, the disease but
- 14:40Speaker 2: there's so many different we all had so many different
- 14:45Speaker 2: or we'd be all at so many different levels within
- 14:47Speaker 2: the disease. Like one of the girls had recovered from
- 14:50Speaker 2: surgery and she's backsmashing it and like did a deadlife
- 14:54Speaker 2: pr in front of everybody. So it's just and your
- 14:58Speaker 2: two guys had like stormas and one of them had
- 15:01Speaker 2: a support belt with them, but the other one like
- 15:04Speaker 2: would have really benefited from the support belt because they
- 15:07Speaker 2: were trying to do a different exercise, So it was like,
- 15:10Speaker 2: can I borrow that? And just lovely, like just so
- 15:13Speaker 2: so lovely, you know.
- 15:16Speaker 1: I guess as well. You learn from each other as well.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Being there, you just like, oh how you do it
- 15:22Speaker 1: that way, and oh maybe I'll try this, and you
- 15:25Speaker 1: try that and whatever, and kind of you pick up
- 15:28Speaker 1: so much just by being with other people and just
- 15:31Speaker 1: watching other people. I find Yeah, just.
- 15:34Speaker 2: By being there, absolutely yeah, And it's like bouncing opinions
- 15:37Speaker 2: off each other, and you know, as you said, like
- 15:40Speaker 2: just watching how someone else does something. Like Dan did
- 15:44Speaker 2: a few demos on like exercises that people asked, you know,
- 15:48Speaker 2: cause you show me like in person and blah blah blah,
- 15:51Speaker 2: and really interesting. It was so good, like really like
- 15:55Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun, but it was very
- 15:57Speaker 2: informative as well. So yeah, really.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Absolutely no, that's absolutely fantastic. And as well as the event,
- 16:07Speaker 1: the gym event that that's something else that's happened as
- 16:11Speaker 1: well is that you are also a contributing founder. If
- 16:15Speaker 1: I've got that work, that's great of a new company
- 16:21Speaker 1: called Laurie. Would you like to explain how or what
- 16:26Speaker 1: they do and of how you became a contributing founder.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yeah, So Laurie is in the process of being like
- 16:35Speaker 2: fully established within the chronic illness world and basically it's
- 16:40Speaker 2: an amazing couple or a sama. So the lady in
- 16:47Speaker 2: the couple has multiple sources, so she is MS and
- 16:53Speaker 2: her struggle like obviously knocked her a lot, like all
- 16:57Speaker 2: of us, you know, when we're hit with something, it's
- 16:59Speaker 2: trying to navigate and what works for you, and you know,
- 17:03Speaker 2: everybody ideally would love to take less medication and focus
- 17:08Speaker 2: more on building habits and changing up your lifestyle to
- 17:11Speaker 2: kind of enhance how you can navigate and live as
- 17:17Speaker 2: much of a normal life as possible, you know, without
- 17:19Speaker 2: depending on meds. So her husband is very very much
- 17:26Speaker 2: in it with her, which is lovely, and they so
- 17:30Speaker 2: she obviously suffered her own challenges and made lifestyle choices
- 17:35Speaker 2: as well, very much so within like wellness, and I
- 17:42Speaker 2: think she mentioned like a lot of holistic approaches and
- 17:44Speaker 2: all that kind of thing. So they I think they
- 17:49Speaker 2: were just fighting and fighting for so long that they
- 17:51Speaker 2: were like, right, you know, wouldn't it be amazing to
- 17:54Speaker 2: build a platform of people with different chronic illnesses our
- 18:00Speaker 2: autoimmune conditions where someone newly diagnosed, for example, like there's
- 18:07Speaker 2: been a lot of research and I can vouch for it.
- 18:10Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you can toot on, but like
- 18:12Speaker 2: when you're when you're newly diagnosed with something, you're almost
- 18:16Speaker 2: handed medication, You're handed leaflets and just total crack on
- 18:22Speaker 2: without the support of like maybe you know, more mental
- 18:27Speaker 2: health support, more access to like dietitians, nutritionists, you know,
- 18:33Speaker 2: when it's digestive diseases, like I had nothing, I'd know
- 18:36Speaker 2: support like that. Like I definitely definitely can say that
- 18:39Speaker 2: I had to fend a lot for myself, Like my
- 18:42Speaker 2: team are amazing, and I speak very highly about my
- 18:44Speaker 2: own IVD team, but they're amazing for just medicating me basically.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Anything beyond that is solely down to me, and I
- 18:56Speaker 2: had no one. I didn't even know what the disease was.
- 18:58Speaker 2: I didn't know there was an onlink, you know. I
- 19:00Speaker 2: didn't know a lot of stuff. So basically what they're
- 19:06Speaker 2: trying to do is create a platform. So the app
- 19:11Speaker 2: isn't launched soon, but it's near. It's so close to
- 19:13Speaker 2: being launched it's amazing. So there's a couple of founding contributors,
- 19:18Speaker 2: so myself and a few others with different autoimmune conditions.
- 19:24Speaker 2: So we basically build a profile. So I can add
- 19:27Speaker 2: to my profile what I'm about, what has helped me.
- 19:34Speaker 2: I can add links to my profile to take you
- 19:37Speaker 2: to instant information. I can offer my advice on my
- 19:44Speaker 2: own journey. They can connect, react like, and just really like.
- 19:53Speaker 2: For example, okay, so my my the way I navigate
- 19:57Speaker 2: IBD is now is all based around my lifestyle and
- 20:02Speaker 2: my habits. So if they went into my profile, just say, like,
- 20:06Speaker 2: for argument's sake, at the top of my profile, I
- 20:11Speaker 2: might showcase more that I'm into, like a healthy lifestyle
- 20:15Speaker 2: and nutrition, fitness, that kind of thing, So they could
- 20:17Speaker 2: go she might be quite similar to me, or like
- 20:21Speaker 2: I like the look of that. They can type in
- 20:23Speaker 2: like key search words into my profile to like find
- 20:27Speaker 2: information really quickly. So like I'd obviously have a lot
- 20:32Speaker 2: in there about medication. I was on all of that.
- 20:36Speaker 2: So it's basically going to be a personal profile dedicated
- 20:42Speaker 2: to what you have been through. I guess what you
- 20:46Speaker 2: represent and how you can maybe support somebody that's newly diagnosed.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Sounds great.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing because obviously we all take different routes
- 20:56Speaker 2: and we all work with it quite different, So it's
- 21:01Speaker 2: nice to have a few different takes on things and
- 21:05Speaker 2: different our immune conditions. So I think this that's their
- 21:08Speaker 2: initial setup is to get that off the ground and
- 21:12Speaker 2: get people connecting and all that kind of stuff, and
- 21:16Speaker 2: then I believe that they're going to just expand and
- 21:20Speaker 2: grow with more conditions and all that kind of thing,
- 21:25Speaker 2: you know. So like we do we do a group
- 21:31Speaker 2: a team kind of call the last Wednesday of every month,
- 21:35Speaker 2: and it's basically the two guys filling us in on
- 21:42Speaker 2: their progress. Like they work really hard in the background,
- 21:45Speaker 2: like who they're networking with and how their growth is
- 21:51Speaker 2: going is planned to perfection. Like they're really business focused
- 21:56Speaker 2: and deeducated and like just really they know what they're doing,
- 22:03Speaker 2: and I really hope it takes off, because I do
- 22:05Speaker 2: genuinely believe it's something that I could have done with
- 22:08Speaker 2: so much along with everybody else that maybe have an illness.
- 22:12Speaker 2: And it's not just for newly diagnored. It could be
- 22:14Speaker 2: for anybody. You know, you could have ease ten years
- 22:16Speaker 2: and just go all you know. Yeah, So yeah, it's
- 22:21Speaker 2: really really interesting. So I'm loving being part of it.
- 22:25Speaker 2: Like it's a nice group, really.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Nice that sounds brilliant, that sounds excellent. And the very
- 22:31Speaker 1: sort of brief chat I've had with both of them,
- 22:34Speaker 1: they both seem incredibly dedicated to really making this work.
- 22:39Speaker 1: I think it's it's something that I think is really
- 22:45Speaker 1: really needed because trying to find information if anybody has
- 22:48Speaker 1: I mean, obviously if you have a chronic illness, you
- 22:51Speaker 1: try and find out as much as you can for
- 22:53Speaker 1: some people, and to have that all in one place
- 22:59Speaker 1: near enough, it's just I mean, that's going to save
- 23:02Speaker 1: so much time and hassle.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Rather the time than hassle exactly.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Yeah, rather than trolling the internet, trolling Instagram sharing to
- 23:11Speaker 1: find people, trying to find what they do, trying to
- 23:13Speaker 1: find this that or the other, and.
- 23:15Speaker 2: It's more personal, isn't it Versus a Google search where
- 23:18Speaker 2: you can speak to somebody who's kind of almost walked
- 23:21Speaker 2: the walk and can offer some sort of advice or comforter.
- 23:25Speaker 2: You know, it's very isolating to be left hanging with
- 23:27Speaker 2: a chronic illness, regardless of what it is. So it's
- 23:31Speaker 2: nice to have a person versus just Google, you know. Yeah.
- 23:36Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's amazing, Like I'm really excited for them.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting that they're adding I know, and
- 23:44Speaker 1: when I spoke to them, they said they have plans
- 23:47Speaker 1: in the future to act other conditions. Obviously, you can't
- 23:50Speaker 1: have every chronic condition because yeah, wise you be talking
- 23:55Speaker 1: thousands of people. But yeah, I think they've got what
- 23:59Speaker 1: I probably class as the main ones. I don't know
- 24:03Speaker 1: if that's the right term, but yeah, yeah, the more
- 24:08Speaker 1: the more common ones. So when I sort of said
- 24:11Speaker 1: about Hirshprungs, they were like, what the hell is that?
- 24:15Speaker 1: But it's like a lot of people do what I
- 24:17Speaker 1: meant to know.
- 24:18Speaker 2: That's also a positive thing, though, is ansh Because you
- 24:21Speaker 2: bring so much hirst Sprungs to your own channel that
- 24:25Speaker 2: it actually educates the lakes of me who wouldn't have
- 24:27Speaker 2: known what it was those guys, you know. So it's
- 24:30Speaker 2: old food for Todd. It's like it's just like a circle,
- 24:33Speaker 2: really is ash.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Yeah, the same thing I do with this podcast. Really,
- 24:38Speaker 1: if you want to find Hirshprung stories, this is the
- 24:42Speaker 1: place with I think it's whatever it is, fifty five
- 24:46Speaker 1: I think out of the seventy odd I've done are hirshprungs.
- 24:50Speaker 1: So this is the place to find Hirshprung stories in
- 24:55Speaker 1: the same way that that app will be for other
- 24:59Speaker 1: various chronicle This is colitus, ulcerative colitis, crones, et cetera.
- 25:04Speaker 1: And now I wish them the very best for that
- 25:07Speaker 1: because that sounds that sounds amazing. It's great that you
- 25:10Speaker 1: you also have meet ups every month because I know
- 25:14Speaker 1: that there are some some parts that I've been involved
- 25:18Speaker 1: with where you kind of you start being involved with
- 25:23Speaker 1: certain companies and people and then you kind of do
- 25:26Speaker 1: your own thing and you maybe don't come together that
- 25:29Speaker 1: oft them. So to have something once a month where
- 25:33Speaker 1: they can update you presusually you can give ideas as
- 25:37Speaker 1: well absolutely of what you want to see, what you've
- 25:40Speaker 1: heard back from you know, your community and whatever. I
- 25:46Speaker 1: mean that is that sort of done like a two
- 25:49Speaker 1: way thing.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, like they'll showcase this so that I think
- 25:54Speaker 2: it was a rundown on what's been done said the
- 25:56Speaker 2: previous month, what they've been working on. At the end,
- 26:00Speaker 2: obviously we all have questions or you know, ideas to
- 26:04Speaker 2: put forward or something. They're very much work of us
- 26:10Speaker 2: as well, you know, providing more information, our links, our ideas,
- 26:16Speaker 2: which is nice because they're very involving. You know, we
- 26:22Speaker 2: don't just sit there and listen and whatever. Like they
- 26:26Speaker 2: take everything on board. They actually put everything in place.
- 26:31Speaker 2: There are two people that I would consider who are
- 26:35Speaker 2: going to be extremely successful, Like their business Drives is incredible,
- 26:41Speaker 2: very professional, very focused and yeah, they're in it now
- 26:47Speaker 2: and I think very soon it should land, so that
- 26:50Speaker 2: will be amazing. Yeah.
- 26:52Speaker 1: No, we will definitely share when it does. Yeah, and
- 26:56Speaker 1: so people can can find that and follow that. They're
- 26:59Speaker 1: giving you sort of a rough ish time frame is
- 27:02Speaker 1: to the next few months or so, I know, I.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Think sooner, Like I'm gonna say, probably before the end
- 27:09Speaker 2: of the month.
- 27:10Speaker 1: So by the time this podcast is out, then I reckon.
- 27:13Speaker 2: I reckon, so yeah, yeah, I do reckon. So so
- 27:16Speaker 2: we have a meeting with them at the end the
- 27:18Speaker 2: last Wednesday of the month, so it could quite possibly
- 27:21Speaker 2: be just after that. I'm thinking, you know, so, yeah,
- 27:26Speaker 2: the sooner the better for them. Obviously they've been working
- 27:30Speaker 2: sworage like so I can just sense the amount of
- 27:34Speaker 2: work and effort they're putting into this. So it's it's
- 27:37Speaker 2: it's really cool. And they don't just drop in and
- 27:40Speaker 2: then go off for a month like they keep in
- 27:42Speaker 2: contact and m it's so interesting.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Yeah, that can be tough to do as well, because
- 27:49Speaker 1: when you when you're so engrossed in doing stuff, you
- 27:52Speaker 1: can go into your own bubble and ciget that actually
- 27:56Speaker 1: you've got all these people to inform and whatever. So
- 27:59Speaker 1: that's that's really really good that they keep everybody up
- 28:01Speaker 1: to day.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it is. It's amazing, amazing. I'm really really
- 28:06Speaker 2: glad to be hurt of it actually, to be honest.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, no, I wish them, wish them all the
- 28:11Speaker 1: success with that, and hopefully i'll speak to them when
- 28:14Speaker 1: the is out. And yeah, and yes.
- 28:19Speaker 2: Hirsh rooms on the map.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to get it everywhere you are. You are,
- 28:25Speaker 1: we can see that literally literally everywhere. I'm trying to
- 28:30Speaker 1: make people aware off.
- 28:31Speaker 2: You're going to have to get yourself some merch.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Well, I'm on the case with that. It is, it is,
- 28:37Speaker 1: it is hopefully hopefully coming at some point. But yeah,
- 28:44Speaker 1: I'm on the case. But yeah, well we'll see you
- 28:46Speaker 1: with that.
- 28:50Speaker 2: Now.
- 28:50Speaker 1: One one final thing that I wanted to chat to
- 28:52Speaker 1: you about is your new venture. I guess we'll call.
- 28:59Speaker 2: It venture for sure.
- 29:01Speaker 1: Yes, well new, but something you've been doing for a while,
- 29:06Speaker 1: so new, I guess we'll call it new ish.
- 29:10Speaker 2: New reproach ish.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so something that, yeah, very recently, something that
- 29:17Speaker 1: you've embarked on a big passion of yours. Would you
- 29:22Speaker 1: like to explain kind of how this came about? And yeah,
- 29:26Speaker 1: what's sort of going on at the moment.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, let's remember that I
- 29:33Speaker 2: never had any interesting fitness on my lethe until I
- 29:37Speaker 2: got ill. That's changed. That's plit the switch for me,
- 29:41Speaker 2: and I can honestly say my life has changed tenfolds.
- 29:48Speaker 2: I've never looked back and the rest is history. So
- 29:52Speaker 2: this leads me to my passion for fitness is huge.
- 29:58Speaker 2: And to watch everybody, even within within the team I'm
- 30:03Speaker 2: in at the moment, to watch everybody and just support
- 30:07Speaker 2: everybody and to just have like to see people thrive
- 30:12Speaker 2: just makes my heart so happy, like it excites me.
- 30:15Speaker 2: So it got to a point where I was like,
- 30:18Speaker 2: I would love nothing more in a lifetime to be
- 30:22Speaker 2: the person behind pushing somebody else to be their best.
- 30:27Speaker 2: And that's take my own journey into an account into
- 30:30Speaker 2: account because I never did a thing and I didn't
- 30:34Speaker 2: know where to start. I didn't know what to do.
- 30:37Speaker 2: I had no confidence, I was sick, I was exhausted,
- 30:42Speaker 2: like I just had none of those amazing things that
- 30:44Speaker 2: I have now so a good A few months ago
- 30:48Speaker 2: I thought about it, I was like, you know, it's
- 30:51Speaker 2: literally I just I just live it like every day.
- 30:55Speaker 2: I if I'm not online, recent are looking at exercise videos,
- 31:03Speaker 2: I'm reading about nutrition, I'm learning about my body. Like
- 31:07Speaker 2: it just became a daily thing. I knew that I
- 31:12Speaker 2: wasn't just the person that went to the gym and
- 31:14Speaker 2: forgot about it until three days later in might crack
- 31:17Speaker 2: on and do some more. It was just a little
- 31:19Speaker 2: bit different for me, like something really clicked and hit
- 31:22Speaker 2: home and it made me go, right, you know what,
- 31:27Speaker 2: I'm forever the one motivating and speaking positive and you know,
- 31:33Speaker 2: preaching that people should always do what they want to
- 31:35Speaker 2: do and chase your dreams. It's never too late, you know,
- 31:39Speaker 2: push beyond your limits. All these amazing things. I'm like,
- 31:43Speaker 2: I've glutton for it. I just love driving positivity, you know.
- 31:49Speaker 2: So I was like, do you know what I'm going
- 31:51Speaker 2: to I'm going to become a coach. And yeah, it's scary. Obviously,
- 32:00Speaker 2: I'm two and a half years in now. I learn
- 32:04Speaker 2: a lot. I make sure I learn a lot. I'm
- 32:06Speaker 2: always learning. I want to get the most out of
- 32:11Speaker 2: every single workout I do. I put so much effort
- 32:15Speaker 2: into it. I put so much into what I eat,
- 32:20Speaker 2: what I feel my body with and just understanding how
- 32:23Speaker 2: the body even works. So anyway, I kind of rambled there. Sorry.
- 32:28Speaker 2: So I took it upon myself research companies in Ireland
- 32:32Speaker 2: that were like really reputable. I wanted to do the
- 32:39Speaker 2: highest level of coaching or training that I could possibly
- 32:43Speaker 2: do in a period of time, not rush or anything.
- 32:47Speaker 2: It's all very I'm very much to take my time
- 32:49Speaker 2: type person and you know, make sure I'm doing everything right.
- 32:52Speaker 2: So I signed up with Apex there personal training company
- 32:58Speaker 2: in Ireland. Very all will be internationally recognized. So I'll
- 33:04Speaker 2: do my diploma on level four and five, which is
- 33:08Speaker 2: the highest I can go in terms of becoming a coach.
- 33:11Speaker 2: After that, I'll enhance that by doing performance nutrition. But
- 33:16Speaker 2: I don't want to get carried away. I just want
- 33:17Speaker 2: to nail the first one first. So I'm bank smack
- 33:20Speaker 2: in the middle of doing that at the moment. And
- 33:25Speaker 2: you know the way like sometimes you might sign up
- 33:27Speaker 2: to something and I was like watching Netflix, you know Midwoods.
- 33:31Speaker 2: You're like, as not for me, I'm gonna switch it off.
- 33:35Speaker 2: From the minute I logged into my account and saw
- 33:39Speaker 2: my modules, I was just like, yeah, I've done the
- 33:45Speaker 2: right thing. I've made the right decision. Very I will
- 33:49Speaker 2: say it's been very hard in terms of like what
- 33:51Speaker 2: I've had to learn. You know the way you just think, oh,
- 33:55Speaker 2: just go to the gym. Your coach will give you
- 33:57Speaker 2: a plan, and like you're our Tom your coach, aren't you.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Yeah. I was worked in professional cricket for a decade
- 34:05Speaker 1: and that worked from home. Yeah, so you was be
- 34:08Speaker 1: a teacher for a decade.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're more than experienced and probably know what
- 34:13Speaker 2: I'm on about when you know when to starting all.
- 34:18Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'm like knee deep now in the
- 34:21Speaker 2: middle of the course, I'll be hoping to have it
- 34:24Speaker 2: completed in I want to say, may I got to
- 34:28Speaker 2: go to Dublin for two weekends and do an in
- 34:33Speaker 2: house kind of training for one weekend, and then my
- 34:36Speaker 2: exams will be the following weekend. And then you see
- 34:41Speaker 2: me make myself very known online. For me like it's
- 34:48Speaker 2: it's not obviously my full time job or anything like that.
- 34:52Speaker 2: I just get so much excitement and energy from seeing
- 34:58Speaker 2: people come back from horrible like isolate and lonely situations
- 35:04Speaker 2: like a chronic illness. So I think I'm really excited. Obviously.
- 35:11Speaker 2: I don't harp on about it too much at the
- 35:13Speaker 2: moment because I've not I'm not qualified. But what I
- 35:16Speaker 2: did do myself in January very privately, nothing to showcase about, nothing,
- 35:27Speaker 2: I don't need to make anything public. It's just me
- 35:31Speaker 2: and three three girls that just put their little bit
- 35:35Speaker 2: of confidence in me. It gives me a little bit
- 35:38Speaker 2: of experience. I'm not out there saying I'm a coach.
- 35:42Speaker 2: To look at me, I'm doing this for these girls.
- 35:45Speaker 2: I'm not doing that at all. It's just basically a
- 35:48Speaker 2: little test run for me. You could say, can I
- 35:52Speaker 2: switch up mindsets? Can I, you know, relate my passion
- 35:56Speaker 2: onto people. The only benefit that I want to get
- 36:01Speaker 2: out of this, like training these three girls, is for
- 36:07Speaker 2: them to make lifestyle changes for me to make sure
- 36:11Speaker 2: it's what I want to do, and to just make
- 36:16Speaker 2: sure that I love it, you know, and that they're
- 36:18Speaker 2: enjoying it, and that like I can learn from listening
- 36:21Speaker 2: to other people as well. So these three girls are
- 36:26Speaker 2: so we're like ten or eleven weeks in now they're
- 36:31Speaker 2: like one is down five kg, one is down four kg.
- 36:34Speaker 2: One has built savage strength, body compositions, changing all their
- 36:39Speaker 2: daily lifestyle changes have massively improved. So I'm not going
- 36:46Speaker 2: to say I'm not going to sit here and say
- 36:47Speaker 2: I'm coaching without a qualification, because I'm not. But I'm
- 36:52Speaker 2: being a support to them, yes, and it just makes
- 36:58Speaker 2: me realize my love for it even more, you know.
- 37:01Speaker 2: So when chained poms and we see these girls amazing
- 37:05Speaker 2: results and I'm qualified, it's just a little I suppose
- 37:11Speaker 2: you could say a little portfolio on the background, you know.
- 37:14Speaker 1: I think that's a really sensible idea. It gives you
- 37:17Speaker 1: without sort of going I know you're in the qualification
- 37:22Speaker 1: stage at the moment. Yeah, but it gives you that
- 37:24Speaker 1: little bit of experience to go, okay, do I really
- 37:28Speaker 1: you know, because you can do the qualifications and you know,
- 37:30Speaker 1: I've done plenty of football ones, cricket ones, all sorts,
- 37:33Speaker 1: and you do all the classroom stuff and you do
- 37:35Speaker 1: all this, that and the other. But when you actually
- 37:37Speaker 1: go out and do it, it is different. So to give
- 37:40Speaker 1: yourself a little taster and to go okay, I like
- 37:44Speaker 1: all the modules, I like the qualifications, I like this,
- 37:46Speaker 1: I like that, But how is it in like real
- 37:49Speaker 1: life without going in and doing a class of twenty five?
- 37:54Speaker 1: You just pick three or four, you know, pick people
- 37:58Speaker 1: that you know they're going to be responsive and whatever.
- 38:01Speaker 1: I think it's a really good idea.
- 38:03Speaker 2: That's a really good way of putting it. Tom. It's
- 38:05Speaker 2: it's like a taster, isn't it. And there's nothing wrong
- 38:09Speaker 2: with that, you know, And for me it's confirmed everything
- 38:13Speaker 2: like the feedback they give me weekly is just all
- 38:17Speaker 2: for myself and my own growth, I guess, and it's
- 38:21Speaker 2: just amazing and to see them doing stuff based off
- 38:26Speaker 2: like what I can from the knowledge that I have gained.
- 38:32Speaker 2: It Actually, it just makes my heart so happy, and
- 38:35Speaker 2: it's exactly what I wanted it to feel like, you know.
- 38:38Speaker 2: So that's the.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Great thing as well as it's mutually beneficial. You get
- 38:44Speaker 1: a lot of you get experience, you get you know,
- 38:47Speaker 1: so much out of it, and they get bitter, so
- 38:50Speaker 1: it's a win absolutely. So I think that's a great idea.
- 38:54Speaker 1: That's brilliant. Ah yeah, so yeah, you said, do.
- 38:57Speaker 2: You know what like little things like you know, because
- 39:01Speaker 2: we have a little chat, a little group chat, and
- 39:05Speaker 2: they'll ask me questions as you would do ask if
- 39:08Speaker 2: you were on shore of something, and I'm so confidently
- 39:13Speaker 2: able to answer, so like it's a really good little
- 39:16Speaker 2: test for me, you know. So it's been a really
- 39:19Speaker 2: good idea. Actually yeah, and there's still in it, there's
- 39:22Speaker 2: still amazing. So yeah, do you know anyways.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Absolutely no, I think that's that's such a good idea.
- 39:30Speaker 1: And when I saw that you were embarking on this,
- 39:33Speaker 1: I thought, well, I have to get you on to
- 39:34Speaker 1: come and talk about it, because I mean you you're
- 39:37Speaker 1: welcome to come on anytime anywhere, come and talk about
- 39:40Speaker 1: anything you like. But I thought, oh, this would be
- 39:43Speaker 1: this will be something that you know, I know, you're
- 39:46Speaker 1: so passionate that. Yeah, and I can see you know,
- 39:49Speaker 1: in your people, hear in your voice, and if they
- 39:51Speaker 1: watch the YouTube channel, they'll be able to see your
- 39:53Speaker 1: face and see how passionate you are about it. But
- 39:57Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. I can't wait to see where
- 40:01Speaker 1: this goes, you know, in the future. Obviously we won't
- 40:04Speaker 1: talk about plans and whatever and this, that and the other,
- 40:07Speaker 1: but I can't wait to see what's for you next.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Any audio follows your Instagram and follows this out the
- 40:16Speaker 1: other they know how passionate you are not just about fitness,
- 40:21Speaker 1: but also another vital part of coaching, in my opinion,
- 40:25Speaker 1: which is the both drive and ability to help people,
- 40:32Speaker 1: which I think is probably more important than anything else.
- 40:37Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. Yeah, I do think
- 40:41Speaker 2: you know, you can have talent, and you can showcase talent,
- 40:44Speaker 2: but you do have to be a type of person.
- 40:46Speaker 2: I think.
- 40:49Speaker 1: You have to want to help people. And there are
- 40:50Speaker 1: a lot of very very talented people who who can
- 40:53Speaker 1: do all sorts of wonderful things. They can't teach people
- 40:57Speaker 1: that do it themselves. And and two teach people that
- 41:05Speaker 1: there is a skill unto itself.
- 41:07Speaker 2: Absolutely it really is. And yeah, You're right. I think
- 41:10Speaker 2: you you either have that in you or you don't.
- 41:15Speaker 2: Kind of a thing, you know, Yeah.
- 41:17Speaker 1: Yeah, you either want to impart that knowledge or want
- 41:21Speaker 1: to sort of stay by just do whatever. And I'm
- 41:24Speaker 1: not saying one is right and one is wrong. There's
- 41:26Speaker 1: just absolutely fine and not not. Everybody's cut out for
- 41:30Speaker 1: you know, coaching, teaching, whatever, and that's absolutely yeah. I'm
- 41:34Speaker 1: not saying one is good and one is bad.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and of course not no.
- 41:39Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't wait to see what's what's for
- 41:42Speaker 1: you next summer.
- 41:43Speaker 2: The summer I now will be. I'll, oh my god,
- 41:47Speaker 2: I can't imagine how I will be when if if we.
- 41:56Speaker 1: Head and myself, let's be confident to say when.
- 42:00Speaker 2: I am competent in my head, I just don't want
- 42:02Speaker 2: to go like I need to keep myself a little
- 42:03Speaker 2: bit humble as them. But no, I'm really excited and
- 42:09Speaker 2: I feel really positive about this year. I can just
- 42:13Speaker 2: you know, it makes myself more accountable as well. So yeah,
- 42:19Speaker 2: I've I'm living my little dream at the moment, I guess,
- 42:24Speaker 2: you know, and kicking a few boxes. And you know,
- 42:28Speaker 2: you're never too old to start anything, you know, like
- 42:33Speaker 2: some people might think, God, you know, you should have
- 42:37Speaker 2: probably done that in your twenties. Yes, I know, I
- 42:40Speaker 2: wish I bloody started fitness in my twenties. But it's
- 42:43Speaker 2: never too.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Late exactly exactly. You know, you better starting it now
- 42:49Speaker 1: than doing it in ten years time, exactly.
- 42:53Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I can like lift heavy
- 42:55Speaker 2: shopping bags later in life, like amazing, exactly. No fast, No,
- 43:01Speaker 2: it'll be good. It'll be good. Everything's gone to plan,
- 43:05Speaker 2: and yeah, I hope I can share all the ins
- 43:11Speaker 2: and outs of it in a few months.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Yeah, well you'll have to come back with four.
- 43:18Speaker 2: I'll have to come back for a part four now
- 43:20Speaker 2: you I'm gon't have to book me in now. Sixty five?
- 43:24Speaker 2: So I did episode seventeen thirty five or the sixty five.
- 43:29Speaker 1: Four thirty four? I think thirty.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Four sixty five, So could be in the nineties maybe.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. You know, would have been doing
- 43:39Speaker 1: this like eighteen months or something.
- 43:41Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Look, I hope you know, in all seriousness,
- 43:45Speaker 2: I take a very serious I'm very passionate about it.
- 43:49Speaker 2: It's exactly why I'm doing it. I'm putting so much
- 43:51Speaker 2: time and effort into it, and I do think, like
- 43:57Speaker 2: I know I'll be supported by an already established kind
- 44:01Speaker 2: of coaching community on Instagram, and you know I won't
- 44:08Speaker 2: be just left there like a lone wolf. I'm very
- 44:11Speaker 2: confident I'll have that support.
- 44:13Speaker 1: So let's go absolutely well, thank you so so much
- 44:19Speaker 1: for coming on. Is you? Wish you all the best
- 44:23Speaker 1: with well with the ambassadorial ships, the gym events, the
- 44:27Speaker 1: new venture of the future, and just very quickly for
- 44:32Speaker 1: I imagine more people listening to this follow you than
- 44:34Speaker 1: they follow me, but we'll tell them where to follow
- 44:37Speaker 1: you anyway, Where can people find you keep up to
- 44:40Speaker 1: date with all these thoughts.
- 44:42Speaker 2: So my name, my Instagram name is Laura dot ibd
- 44:47Speaker 2: dot fitness. Very self explanatory and very much pretty much
- 44:51Speaker 2: what's all on my account. So yeah, I guess if
- 44:56Speaker 2: you're interested in any of those things, that's where I
- 44:59Speaker 2: have band the most about and I do with crap
- 45:04Speaker 2: a few jokes every now and again. You know, I
- 45:07Speaker 2: in me, So.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd highly recommend your Instagram account. It's very amusing,
- 45:11Speaker 1: it's good fun.
- 45:13Speaker 2: No, yes, gloom, there's there's no dooman gloom on my.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Accouat exactly exactly. That's where we come from the same
- 45:21Speaker 1: mindset with very positive people. Yeah, love exactly, fantastic. Well,
- 45:26Speaker 1: thank you ever so much for coming on. And it
- 45:29Speaker 1: goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Wish you
- 45:32Speaker 1: all the very very best for everything in the future.
- 45:36Speaker 2: Appreciate that's so much, and I always appreciate coming back on.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Like we have the great laugh and chats and yeah,
- 45:44Speaker 2: as you said, very much similar mindsets, you know, so
- 45:47Speaker 2: considering you like have had me on the third time,
- 45:51Speaker 2: we just can't right off the next one, so we
- 45:53Speaker 2: see what happens.
- 45:54Speaker 1: We'll have you back in a few months. Thank you
- 46:00Speaker 1: so much. Thanks Tom, Thank you for listening to the podcast.
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