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Breaking Free From 3 Years of Health Anxiety in 13 Minutes (Coaching Session With Shaan) · Bye Bye Panic

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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you've been on the recovery journey for years and still feel stuck, this video is for you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you think am I going wrong?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I've read Claire Week's book.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's been free years now and I think I made a lot of progress but still I think I'm stuck somewhere.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In this public coaching session, I speak with someone who's been on the healing journey for three years but still feel stuck and we uncover what's really holding this person back.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Define to me when you say, where am I going wrong?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Define rock.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what exactly feels like it's going wrong for you?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels wrong because I think I should be better off today, much, much better because I accept as much as I can.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And still, three years later now, I'm still having a lot of symptoms.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm basically judging by the symptoms.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know if you say that's not corrected, but I mean after a few years, it's a human thing to also judge by the symptoms.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And how about how much has your life changed in the last three years in terms of the behaviors?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm more actively accepting and letting the fear go through my body, let's say.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So in terms of, was there anything you weren't doing before that you're doing now, you feel?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Or you weren't nothing healthy back really in the past?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Not really, I was always pushing through.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was trying my best, but not really accepting.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe I'm still doing a little bit of that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very hard to decide, am I accepting 100% or am I just 50, 50 accepting and pushing through it?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's hard to say.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I'm not sure if you are.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's OK.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: but tell me a little bit more.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So what I experienced was a really hard setback a few months ago where one of my fears is basically I have a lot of health anxiety and I have this fear that I can suddenly get how is it called an allergy attack?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: lip and so to the point where I cannot breathe anymore and something like that and so I was eating fish and then I thought I'm having a attack right now
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  [SPEAKER_00]: allergy attack but in the end I was quite sure it was anxiety.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I already called emergency and my hand was shaking like that and when I was telling her where I live and et cetera I can't down a little bit and then I had the courage to say oh I think it's just anxiety and she said are you sure you have to decide?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Should I send someone or not then I said if it gets worse I will call again
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so it was killing sighty, but what happened afterwards is that I started avoiding a lot of food.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I'm now regaining bit by bit, okay, just I was having tea and oh, it's it's new kind of tea.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I have to experience anxiety for a lot of things right now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's use that example the separate that you had recently.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you thought that turned out to be anxiety.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What happened there?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, where do you feel if you had to look back?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What would you have changed in that moment?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think in that moment I was really stuck in the 5F's fighting, fearing was very extreme and I was trying to control it rather than accept it and so the fear grew.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was feeling second fear a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Before even responding, we talk about the anxiety umbrella, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's one piece that you're not throwing under the anxiety umbrella.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's one piece that's happening that's causing you to slip and that moment.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You set it yourself in the beginning that it's a lot of how things are.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of physical stuff, same thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I have the same thing, not exactly in terms of the allergy thing, but exactly what you're falling into, same thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I would always fall into this thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be this thing, then next time it would be this thing, it would be this thing that I realized there was some piece that I wasn't throwing under the anxiety and blood.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Can you guess what that is?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: those thoughts, you believed that thought.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's specific instance.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Throwing the physical things are fine for you under things, I didn't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The thoughts still trip you up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The thoughts you distance from things I didn't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You say that thought of analogy is different than
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so what's happened is that that thought has thrown you in that direction.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, if there's something there to do that happens to me that I don't feel like it's anxiety.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to react the same way.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's actually a very, how you responded was totally logical.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was totally rational.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't need, I don't want you to give up that logic.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that rationality.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that happened, and it happens to everybody, everybody listening, this will happen to you, which is that thought of like, okay, like, oh my God, I'll have you an allergy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You believed that thought.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the second year engaged, that thought that's how you reacted.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Rather than recognizing, hey, wait, this might actually just be an anxious thought.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This might just be adrenaline burning itself off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And the meaning that I have around this thought
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you believe that thought to be true, the way you react is fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But what happens is what I think would help is recognizing that one of the sinister things that's happening, and you might be missing, and it's okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because actually what I find is when people are on the healing journey, they're able to throw everything, all the physical symptoms under the umbrella, and then they realize, oh my god, I have to make my umbrella bigger.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was never throw any thoughts of there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: These thoughts and these what ifs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: These what if thoughts are also anxiety.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is also anxiety burning itself off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So now it's not just a phism.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You've been so focused on the physical that you don't realize that, oh wait, there's the thought, it's the meaning that's actually making this there too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to throw that under the anxiety so your anxiety and Berlin needs to be bigger.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you can recognize the thoughts are there, are also adrenaline burning itself.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You won't follow to that trap as easily.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it makes sense because when I look back now, I knew it was a different kind of fish, and so it already triggered my anxiety before I even ate it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the fourth was the first thing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: After that, a typical of anxiety symptom, the lump in the throat, and then I panic.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But it was really, it was the meaning behind it, which is totally normal.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And what somebody asked me before on the call, which was, hey, like, we talked about somatic shifting, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not just bodily shifting.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The anxiety is going to latch on the different things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's the physical symptoms.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But then once you start throwing that under the anxiety umbrella, anxiety is going to latch onto these intrusive, what if thoughts?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: quite give you an example.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When I was going through the healing journey, we had finally accepted it with anxiety.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When I was in the ER for two days, test after test after test, holy crap, there's nothing physically wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, okay, so my body's healthy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think anxiety went away?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: anxiety started, I started, you know what I started feeling after that, few weeks later, I started feeling really sad.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I started feeling like a really emotional.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So now I guess what I'm thinking.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, it's not physical.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I am bipolar.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, I've been dealing with bipolar this whole time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I confused everybody.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What happened?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Exiety last year under the thoughts.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And last year under something that wasn't physical as a way to stay alive.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm thinking, oh, I don't know if I should have.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So what did I learn?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What was my lesson in that moment?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: to be well, struggle a bit, but I realize, okay, no, it's not just the physical.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's actually the thoughts too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I need to throw those spots about too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If I don't throw the thoughts, and there are always get tripped up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause say it might be an allergy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow it might be something else.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's recognizing, okay, is this, I think this is an anxious thought.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Once you throw the anxious thoughts under the umbrella, then,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: then it doesn't matter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then you just know what to do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Then what do I do about the thought, the same thing you can do about the symptoms, just not to be there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It forces you to create some distance to between the thought and it prevents you from creating meaning every time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Any time a thought has a meaning, you don't have to believe it at the time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like how do I have a bit, how do I convince myself that it's that you don't need to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The thought is there, it's fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just adrenaline.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll burn itself off.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Right, how many times have you were so convinced in life it was something, not even anxiety when they did, and turned out to be fully woke?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna tell you, even after anxiety, you may have things where you're completely convinced and you're gonna be wrong lots of things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Even just because it feels real doesn't mean it is real.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just one that happens just throwing and only doing the anxiety umbrella and just expanding it a bit and that will help you a lot from preventing spire.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's, that's the true.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I will focus on that in the future.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Can I give you something that you're also, once you throw the thoughts under the umbrella, something else is going to surface up?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just going to give you a ad start.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Throw the emotions in there too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you'll be able to get thoughts in there, but then you might have feelings of sadness.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You might have feelings of grief.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You might feel extra angry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you right now, because when you do experience that, you're going to just need to make your anxiety and grow a bigger.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And fundamentally, the anxiety and grow is only doing one thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just preventing you from falling into the trap and engaging with it and just letting yourself feel it, feel the emotion, feel the thought or the, I guess, like listen or follow whatever, but don't know needing to do anything about it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you'll face next.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I also see needs practice because when you put it under the anxiety umbrella, you feel like you lose control.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And anxiety sufferers will have control.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But we have to accept there is no control.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When you start sitting with the discomfort in the uncertainty, you realize actually everything's okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: everything's going.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You think you're putting, you think everything's together, put together because of your control.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The control is actually messing things up.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Your control is messing things up to coming back to baseline.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a huge observation for all of us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When we all and when I accepted that, I was like, it was very confronted.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because then I came from a place of, oh, I wasn't putting this together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I was actually kind of breaking things apart.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, okay, then the faith, then the trust starts coming in, then you start realizing, okay, I see the purpose of faith now, like I see the, like I see what it is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think right now, I think your, what it's holding you back is your umbrella's kind of small.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to make it a little bigger, and I think that's going to help you a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to make some miles of social shifts.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Just from that alone, I know it sounds silly, and for everybody on the call, be sound
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you the small mindset shifts.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You want this to be more complicated.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I get it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we want this to be an algorithm.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We want this to be really complicated.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like the shares what you do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the formula.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Small mindset shifts it changes the game.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Coleman.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Great question.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, of course.