Latest / Student Of Life / S2E5 | EP 20 Fit to Serve: Did the Tests Match the Job?
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- Tre: Have you ever wondered what it was like in the fitness realm for the different branches of the military or even professions when it comes down to emergency services? Hi y'all. Here for another week. And we had to pivot a little bit, but we showed up. Timbothy. Welcome. Tim-o-thy: Thank you, Trey. Tre: And as you know, and he's just said, I'm Trey. Tim-o-thy: one and only try. Tre: The one and no, no, I can't do that. I can't take the one and only. Tim-o-thy: That stolen valor? Tre: That is stolen valor. If we're talking about Johnny V, I'm not trying to get sued. He is the one and only. Tim-o-thy: Copyright in that name. Tre: Right? No, but no, thank you all for tuning in for another week. We did have to pivot a little bit. We had some Pretty big plans and then the weather decided to mess with us just a tad. But like life, we adapt and we overcome. Life happens. So Tim, how are you doing? Tim-o-thy: I'm good. It's it's officially fall weather today. but you know what? I'm not gonna complain about that because as I've seen both on the west coast and east coast over the last few days, I'll I'll take a little bit of grain gloom and some cooler weather versus some of the storms that everyone's been, you know, getting hampered with with speaking about that. You know, how is it going out there with you? Tre: yeah, yeah, it's going good. It's going good. I I'm here. I'm I'm well. my tent is still pitched, so that's good. You know, it didn't get blown away by any any inclement weather, so that's a good thing. But for anyone that has been affected by any of the storms on the east coast or west coast, hopefully you get some relief soon and things get back to a little bit of normalcy for you. But hey, what are we here talking about today, right? We're talking about military fitness. Isn't it right, Tim? PT. Tim-o-thy: Mm. PT. PT. Good for me. Good for you? Tre: my gosh. You know, always ready. You know, always gotta stay ready. Tim-o-thy: Fit to fight. Tre: Yes, yes. And I mean, that's how it was, you know, when we were in, right? I'm gonna ask you a question. Which was more stressful for you? Because you remember. what it was, right? When you Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Tre: were in, we had run, we had push ups, sit-ups, body measurement, the repetitions, you know, what was the most stressful thing for you, if you can remember? Tim-o-thy: I think ultimately the run you know, I've never been a huge cardio person, you know, growing up, even the beginnings of the military and and hereafter. So cardio was a kind of a big stressor for me just to get that that time limit in basically. Tre: Mm-hmm. Tim-o-thy: but also sometimes the the waist measurements, because you know there would be times where, you know, things happen in life and you're hoping that the tape measure doesn't Preclude you from passing the test. Tre: Right. it's I I remember that quite fondly as well. Yeah. And you know, when get up on the scale and then you're you're trying to make sure you take everything off, you know, 'cause it'll adjust, or you know, when get your tape done around your waist, trying to suck in the gut just a little bit more, right? It's little things like that. I yeah, that's kind of crazy. Anyway, you know what? We're delving into this like super deep right off the bat. I definitely remember the run. And I'm not a runner. Never been. Don't care for it. Don't like it. I think we've talked about that before. but if a bear or anything like that were chasing me, I would I would find the strength to run. but you know, is there any one part of that PT test that you remember extremely Clearly, outside of the run, because like you said, you're you're not really a runner. was there anything in the actual PT test that you really enjoyed Tim-o-thy: will say when they gave us the opportunity to listen to music. So if we were able to have some sort of music device, you know, especially on the run. Now, you know, the other components of that, that wasn't the case. but you know, doing that, at least for us, that mile and a half, that I mean, it puts you in the zone to kind of block everything out. So that was a huge positive for me when we were able to utilize that. So Tre: Mm. Tim-o-thy: once again, going back to the cardio, I mean once I was able to throw on some tunes and, you know, lock in. I was good. Tre: Yeah. So once again, I do want to welcome everyone here. And I want to give a little really quick brief breakdown of the times that I was in, because you know, you served, Tim, and I served. I mean we both served. I mean I was active duty Navy from two thousand one through two thousand and nine, then I did some reserve time from twenty eleven ish to about twenty fifteen. And then I crossed over to the Air Force Reserve in twenty fifteen, I believe. and yeah, and I think I got out well, yeah, relocated and everything and then got out twenty seventeen, around that time. Maybe it's twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. But yeah, Tim, do you want to go over a brief history of your military career? Tim-o-thy: Yeah, so active duty Air Force from nine to twenty fifteen and then transitioned over to the Air Force Reserves from about well, about actually twenty fourteen, then twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen for the Air Force Reserve. So about five and four combined. Tre: wow. And could you see a difference? I'm just gonna ask you this right off the bat. Could you see a difference between the physical fitness standards from being active duty Air Force to the reserves in the Air Force? Tim-o-thy: absolutely. I think the biggest difference is you have ones where you're active duty, that's that's your entire job, that's your entire career, you know, Monday through Friday, seven days a week, whether you're off or not, you know, that's your job. And in the reserves a lot of people had, you know, civilian career fields out in the open doing whatever, if it was in the office or working a manual job. And then that one week in a month and two weekends a year, or two weeks a year, I should say. that was when they really focused on their PT. So if they weren't doing stuff in the reserves as they were in active duty times, where it was every day. I remember, you know, five days a week, we were PTM beforehand, or you took it upon yourself to PT before or afterwards. so I think the amount and frequency. was a huge difference between both active duty side and the reserve side, li on the air force. Tre: So so you really had to stick with it yourself and give yourself that, you know, motivation to Tim-o-thy: Absolutely. Tre: to do it when you were in the reserve. Whereas in the active duty side of the house you you were surrounded. Correct, correct, correct. Tim-o-thy: You knew what to expect, yes. Tre: man. So you know, I I wanna say it was essentially the same even in the Navy. So Navy reserves versus you know active it did seem as if I don't want to say that they it didn't seem as if if I remember correctly, because now we're talking about years, right? That we've been out. Ten plus years, you know, or or around that time, right? Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Yep. Tre: of the reserves. And, you know, trying to remember active duty was even further. But it just seemed as if it wasn't as strange. stringent on the PT side. And you know what? I there there are some things I want to clarify real quick for any of our listeners and viewers that may be listening in. The we we're going to be using some acronyms, so like PT, physical, physical fitness or physical test. Tim-o-thy: Physical training. Tre: Or physical training. but then you have the PFA, which is the physical fitness assessment. we'll say things like a PRT, which is the physical readiness test itself. you'll probably hear us say like BCA, which is the body composition assessment that they do for you. So I want to make sure I put that out there. And we'll try our best not to just use the acronyms and just use plain language. But it did seem as if, you know, like the BCA, the the body composition assessment, and also the PRT itself just seemed a little bit more relaxed, if you will. Like you still had to put in that effort. Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Tre: You had to put in that effort, but it wasn't as stringent, if you will. And that's just from my own remembering of the past times. did you have a similar experience that you could remember or was it different? Tim-o-thy: No, I think so you know, at least so for the Air Force side, active duty, I remember and and I know things have changed systematically across the board for I think all branches since then, but you had you know, your scale went to a hundred for what your total score was. And so if you got, I believe I wanna say ninety and above, you would test annually. And anything under ninety, you would do it twice a year. So every six months you'd do a a physical fitness test. And I remember like, you know, everyone that would be working towards the last like two months or even a month, you know, getting I was like, I'm I didn't get my ninety. I don't wanna I don't wanna do this twice a year, you know, I just gotta have to shave a minute off or, you know, knock out a couple more pushups. And so it was kind of like writing a paper for college or for school, you're waiting until the last minute. Tre: Cram sessions. Tim-o-thy: Yes. You're cramming as much in as you can, towards the end there. And sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. And I just remember the feeling though, you know, of getting, you know, over ninety and you're like, man, all right, good. I can kind of do my own thing for the next, you know, eleven and a half months and I'm good up until that point. But yeah, it was funny watching the amount of people in the gym as you knew that like PT tests were coming up. but on the reserve side, it's you would see people constantly that you know for a fact have not been taken upon themselves to really keep up with you know, what they were supposed to. So Tre: Yeah. And and that's that's life in itself, you have people who really love to work out, you have people who really love to shoot guns, you have people who really love to fly planes, love to drive cars, you know, you have people who love to do certain things. And then you have people who do things out of necessity, right? I I like I said, I was never I never loved running, I I do enjoy push-ups, sit-ups. I did it I did enjoy that, right? that's something I I loved doing even before, you know, joining the military. I kind of liked doing push-ups and sit-ups. and I actually feel like I excelled at those literally just those two parts of the PRT test. PRT test, I think that's kind of redundant, right? physical readiness test test. No. The PRT, you know what I mean. But I really excelled at those two aspects of the PRT. And you know, it was always the run that kind of was like, man. Now w one Tim-o-thy: Yeah, thanks. Tre: thing that the Navy had kind of like transitioned to was allowing you know, if you wanted to do alternative cardio, so so We could do the row machine or they could do the row machine now. I don't think that was an thing back when I was in. but we could do the bike and everything, you know? And when they did that, I was excellent at that because I could hey it's something about running for me. It's just like a boring, just tedious, like, it's kind of just I don't know. I don't know. Tim-o-thy: Well, you're running around in circles on a track with a group of people for, extends a period of time, whether it's three laps or thirteen and a half laps, depending on which track you're on. yes, I can definitely attest to the that redundant the the boredom basically at that point. Tre: Yes. Cause that's a that's what it it's just like and then you you're I get into my own head. So so it's like I'm running, I'm running, I'm running, and then I just start to Okay, I'm getting winded because you know, I just want to get done with it because first of all I'm bored. So so I try to go all out, and then I think that's what gets me is that initial push, correct? Tim-o-thy: Right off the bat. Yep. Tre: And then it's like, okay, after that, now I'm struggling to try to just keep up or you know, whatever. So Yes, the run. Something I despise. So but I loved it when they had the alternative cardio that we could do. So I was excelling at the bike. I was excelling at the push-ups and the sit-ups, and then I cross over to the Air Force Reserve. And to go to the school that I wanted to go to, I could not do the alternative, you know. PT, I had to do the run. Anyway, that's a whole nother story. But I will say boot camp, boot camp, boot camp, boot camp, PT services. Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Tre: Or not PT services, PT exercises, expeditions, PT, those things where everybody's getting beat at the same time. You have no time to really think about, you know, I really don't want to do this or anything. Why? Because you're being forced to do it. And I think that that's the difference now is that I don't have someone that I have to answer to yelling at me. Maybe I should start yelling at myself. Tim-o-thy: Just record yourself yelling and then have it sitting off to the side and and just berating you the entire time like you know, your your drill instructors or your training instructors. Tre: Yeah. But you know, even the PT sessions and then the physical readiness tests in boot camp, it seemed as if it were easier, in my opinion, because it was like that forced, you know, forced exercise, first off. And then the fact that you're already physically fit, you didn't have to worry about trying to cram in that time to get ready. And you literally just went through it because you were physically fit. They built you up. Those those hazing, if you will, sessions where, you know, everybody has to drop down and give twenty yes, getting Tim-o-thy: Getting smoked. Yep. Tre: smoked, right? that was all for a reason. What do you think with boot camp? Tim-o-thy: No. So as as much as in in you know, basic training, boot camp, whatever you call it, the whole concept is for them to break you down and build you back up as, you know, a team member and not an individual. So you go in as this entire group of, you know, strangers, whether people or not, and the whole basis is for them to, you know, beat you down mentally and physically and then just build you back up and mold you into, a formidable member of that branch to put you out into that society for the military. And so I remember getting, you know, someone would do something stupid or say something stupid. And next thing you know, they're like, all right, drop to the floor, you're doing flutter kicks, push-ups, sit-ups, and you're drenched in sweat on this tile floor, slipping and sliding, trying to keep yourself up. But at the end of the day, even when we weren't getting smoked, I'd find myself on my own time, on the side of the the bed and the barracks there, just knocking out push ups, before bed at night or on our days off, still trying to do stuff because it was just that mental mindset of all right, I got this. Whether Tre: Mm-hmm. Now now I I do wanna I wanna bring up a fact real quick. You know, We talked about the Navy. We talked about the Air Force. I had the experience of seeing Marines and Marines Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Tre: working out and their level of, you know, working out is at a total different height. they live, breathe, wake up, go to sleep thinking about, you know, physical fitness. Because when I cross over to the Corman rate, I had to get ready to deploy, because I did deploy Dirac. So, you know, there's a term called Greenside Corman, Blue Side Corman. I was a Greenside Corpsman, and so we had to go through some similar type of training that the Marines have. I know for sure that it was definitely watered down for us. but We had to be physically fit ish to their standards, you know. kind of similar because, you know, we're we're out there, boots on the ground with them. You know, we had to learn how to shoot the guns and stuff like that. We had to learn how to low crawl and you know, the the certain things that they do that you've probably seen in the movies, under the barbed wire and stuff like that. Hey, we we literally just recently watched on Soul Soul Cinemas Countdown to Doomsday, even though it was the army, it still has the same essence of Steve Rogers when he was going through his boot camp or what was the other thing you said boot camp or training basic training, yeah, yeah. Tim-o-thy: Well, basic training yeah. Tre: It's same thing, right? but yeah, having to go through that and keeping your gun out the mud and like literally those those are still things being said. To this day, Hollywood just co-opted it. But I do not feel that right now in this present space that I'm living in, that I'm anywhere close to where I used to be. And that is something that I'm actively still trying to work towards. Tim, do you want to talk about a little bit of your time? when you were in versus you know the the the you know test a stress, just little things. I'll I'll let you talk about your time. Tim-o-thy: Yeah, so when you talk about it, so for the Air Force, you have your your basic training period that you go through. And then for us, we have our tech school. Other ones have AIT, I know Navy Z C school for I think the the specialties for their MOS. so different branches have that different advanced specialty once you're done with basic training that you go on to. And you still have to keep up those physical fitness standards. So just because you have that one PT test at the end of your basic training period for you to be able to graduate, then when we go into tech school, it's the same thing. you're doing your day to day training out there and then you still have a PT test at the end of it that you still have to pass to be able to graduate and Tre: Mm-hmm. Tim-o-thy: move on to your first duty station. So though, just because you finished basically like, I'm done. I knocked out that PT test, I can work out on my own, do my own thing. We would we would every day we'd be, having PT in the morning, go to formation, do our stuff. So it was that consistent pattern. Tre: But did you go into it with any expectations before you entered, in regards to working out in training versus what you saw once you got in? Tim-o-thy: I did a little bit of research. I don't so when I enlisted, mine was kind of on a whim. I went with my friend to go talk to a recruiter on a random day and signed the papers there and left for basic I don't know, a month or two afterwards. So mine was bam bam bam. I didn't I wasn't in the the poolie process, you know, for the delayed entry program or anything like that. So I didn't really have a whole lot of Tre: That's another term, by the way, dep, delayed entry program. Hey, hey, you j you mentioned it and it like just brought back a flood of memories. I was a part of that dep program, but keep going. Tim-o-thy: So yeah, no, I didn't do a whole lot of prepping before I left for basic. I the main thing is I had to make sure that I was a specific weight because due to my height. So we I just had to meet the standards before I left and shipped off for basic. So, but when I got to basic, it was it was definitely a shell shock 'cause like I said, a lot more running, a lot more, you know, getting forced to do certain things for an extensive period of time that I was never used to prior to that. So yeah, it was it was a bit of a shell shock. you know, whooping my butt into shape a lot quicker than I had expected. So yeah, big difference. Tre: Well, didn't they make a a major change to the testing process for the Air Force where it was really focused on it started getting more focused on the run like back in twenty ten? Tim-o-thy: that I don't remember how much they had shifted. I know, I mean, 'cause the three components were push up sit ups and a mile and a half run. So, Tre: Mm-hmm. Tim-o-thy: you know, as long as you met the standards for your gender and your age group, that was the big thing right there. So I don't remember exactly I'd have to go back and look to see when the specific changes if they were made. I know that's when they sort of change in into the different uniforms and and I think a couple other things as well. but yeah, PTE I'm not a hundred percent sure on on that. Tre: Yeah. And and I do say I do want to say that probably the Air Force has some cool PT uniforms. I I must say they were comfortable. At least when I was in the reserves. Tim-o-thy: Yeah. Tre: I was like, I I like these windbreakers, like what? Tim-o-thy: Shoo. Tre: Yes, yes. So cool, so cool. no, so I mean there there's been a lot of changes. Anyway And there was a lot of stress that was put onto our bodies. You know, yes, there were there were changes, like I was saying, to the testing procedures, you know, because times change, things change. but a lot of stress and breakdown gets put onto your body. I mean, it's same thing with with, you know, athletes and such. You know, when they're doing that on a consistent basis, you you have a lot of stress that gets put onto your bodies and such. Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Tre: Now we're talking a lot about the military, but I know also that you also served the community in your capacity as an officer in Ohio, am I correct? Tim-o-thy: You are correct. And l we'll we'll clarify that a police officer, not an officer within the military, because there are distinctions between enlisted and officers when it comes to the military as well too. So no. Tre: Officer of the law. Tim-o-thy: yes. Tre: He wasn't breaking the law, breaking the law. No, he was an officer of the law. To serve and protect. Tim-o-thy: Yes. Tre: So do you want to talk about the physical f demands when it comes down to like the police academy and such? Tim-o-thy: Yeah, Police Academy, I think, was almost as stringent. So you know, a lot of people don't know, and I I'm sure a lot of people do, but you know, law enforcement as a whole is a kind of a paramilitary mindset. So, between the uniforms, between physical fitness, the standards, that type of stuff, they try and mirror a lot of things. not everything. So P T and the the physical aspect of it was absolutely a huge similarity. for when I was in. I was also going through the academy when I was in the reserves as well. So I kind of was able to, I guess in essence, double dip in the the physical fitness aspect of life because I had to PT for the military, but I also had to PT going through the academy. same thing, push-ups, sit-ups, mile and a half run. however, surprisingly the total for I think The gender and age for the police academy was actually more stringent than it was for the military, come to find out. So for me, it wasn't a huge issue because you know I had spent these amount of years, you know, consistently working out. but all in all, I have to say that I was in a better shape at the end of the police academy than I was when I had left basic training. And I think part of that had to do with, you know, I was, you know, paying to go through the program. I was, you know, using all of these resources and all this stuff. So it wasn't like I was still active duty and this was just a part of my job at that point. so there was a different mindset on making sure that I stuck to a regimen, that I try to do, better than the the bare minimum requirements for the PT test. But yeah, we s same thing. We got smoked in there. Flutter kicks, push-ups, sit ups, into thousands, you know, lose lose count. Tre: And when he's talking about being smoked, he's not talking about on a barbecue grill. that's another term that means getting, I don't want to say beat. You know, like Tim-o-thy: It's a it's a type of I d I you know, punishment maybe. w generally a group type punishment. So it's the Yes. Tre: That has to do with physical fitness itself. So so it's a way of giving you extra reps, essentially. Correct. Tim-o-thy: Corrective measures for Yeah. Tre: Correct on the corrective measures. C. All right. But so so you're so you're saying coming out of the police academy, you were more physically fit than when you came out of basic training, boot camp. Tim-o-thy: I I I am absolutely saying that. And I think also what try or what tied apart into that is we had weekends in the academy where we still had to go in and do certain things, whether it was shooting range, driving, defensive tactics, that type of stuff. So, you know, even if we were hoping to have a weekend off, and it's the same for the the military wells, you'd you're still having to do stuff on the weekends often. but Yeah, once again it's you're you're driving to wherever the training is and you're hoping that you don't wind up having to do a thousand flutter kicks because your boots aren't shined or anything of that nature. Tre: Yeah. You know, we we talked about, you know, there being changes in the physical fitness tests and how times change and you know, it it happens. And I know that there's been a huge shift even now, you know, to this day. I know that big spotlights being put on to f physical fitness across all branches and such. it's just I'm waiting to see how everyone adapts and overcomes. Tim-o-thy: Mm-hmm. Tre: if you think that you can't get through it, just remember it's a temporary thing and you can get through it. Just push yourself, you know, one step at a time, one push-up at a time. stay consistent, stay focused. it's a temporary situation, you know, but you can do it. I believe in you. I thought that I couldn't do it. I never got I didn't get pushed out because of PT. I might have gotten pushed out of the Fire Academy because that's something that I did go through. and even with the fire academy, it wasn't the physical fitness aspect or or dealing with the hoses or anything like that that got me. No, it was the academics. It it really was. but one thing that I always told myself when it came down to working out and doing getting ready for the physical fitness test and doing it is it's temporary. And maybe that's something I need to get back to telling myself. In this present time for myself, is that it's temporary and I can do it just one step at a time. Just lace up those shoes, those running shoes, get out there and go for a run. Wake up early, do some push-ups, do some sit-ups, get back to doing the things that I actually enjoy and let it snowball from there. So I'm not just talking here. No. I'm realizing and I'm putting in place. Corrective measures for myself to get healthy. Because, you know, with this podcast, yes, we're talking about how to improve, but then this season, it's all about implementation. So, yes, we've been doing the Conqueror Challenge and everything, but not just doing the Conqueror Challenge. Now we need to I need to exceed and find other ways of physically Getting active. It's about doing. What say you, sir? Tim-o-thy: Famous words of Shia LaBeouf. Just do it. Do it. Tre: Right. my gosh. shy, shy, shy. my gosh. Tim-o-thy: Now, what did you have for your was the was the Fire Academy was that the same type of you know, requirements that they had for it? Or were they different? Tre: So with the Fire Academy, it was a lot of so we pretty much were being haze, not haze, but beaten, smoked, whatever you want to say, almost every single day. and they I can't remember the I can't honestly, I really don't remember what the actual physical fitness test was. I really can't remember what it was. I I'd be lying, and I didn't prep for that, because that's a kind of a dark spot. in my mind, because I really wanted to serve the community in a way that was meaningful to me, you know. but everything in life happens for a reason. So I'm not Tim-o-thy: Yes, sir. Tre: down and out about it, honestly. I wouldn't have met my lovely wife and we wouldn't be on the path that we're all right now. It is what it is, right? It all happens for a reason. But getting back to working out, yes, yes, and yes, we have to do that. And you know what? Maybe we'll be watching Soul Cinema Countdown to Doomsday while we're doing something that's physically active. Tim-o-thy: Yes. Tre: Probably not. But maybe. But probably. there it is. Tim-o-thy: Just ride ride the bike. See? Tre: Yes. Set up a stationary bike inside of, Tim-o-thy: Yes. Tre: and then we could be. Ooh. Yes. Tim-o-thy: Or just row every so often. Tre: You know what? That is a million dollar idea. And I hope that somebody hears me and takes me up on this. But to be able to watch a movie, you pedal for it. So you have the screen right in front of you, have headphones, and let's say people want to watch their whatever movie they want to watch or whatever, but you're working out pedaling, and then once you stop, then the screen starts to go gotta get it back. yeah. So you're working out, you're getting active for that time. Tim-o-thy: Hopefully it's not Titanic or three to four hour movie. Tre: Yes, in game or yes. man. But hey, you can do the stairmasters for for that amount of time, right? Tim-o-thy: Yeah. Tre: no, but yes. So this, you know, episode itself, we're gonna be having this discussion about just how it was in the military, some of the techniques and such that helped us get through. And on the full package, which was Is up on Patreon right now. We're gonna continue this discussion because we I have some stories to tell. And I'm sure Tim has some stories to tell. Tim-o-thy: Yes, sir. Tre: But yeah, I hope that you know you all have been joining us even for our Friday night watch parties. I've plugged it a couple of times during this episode talking about Soul Cinema. It's the countdown to doomsday. We're currently in session for that right now, so it's every Friday. At six PM Pacific Standard Time, nine PM Eastern Time. And wherever you live, I'll let you do the math somewhere in between there, right? Or after or before. Yeah. You'll figure it out. Six PM or nine PM Eastern Standard Time. Please join us. We're having fun. We're having discussions. We're coming up with our own theories. And you know, we're just a part of this fandom when it comes down to Marvel. getting ready for Avengers Doomsday, which releases December eighteenth of this year. Tim-o-thy: Yes. Tre: So Tim, was there anything else you wanted to say about any of the future stuff or, you know, this topic right here before we go over to the full package? Tim-o-thy: No, I think we've we've touched on fitness before, you know, from the beginning to this point. And I think it's just one of those extremely important things that I think it's the consistency of as we continue through our journey and the podcast, we bring it up because it's something that, you know, people might need that little reminder to flip that switch or to ignite that spark to kind of get back into it. I mean, know I deal with that. And I'm sure you do as well too. So you know, stick with us. you know, come along on the journey with us because we can all do better together. and as far as the countdown to doomsday, I do want to reiterate too that there are some some giveaways along the way as well, too. So not only is it entertaining to be with us on the Friday evenings, but you may win something along the way as well, too. So Tre: Besides just knowledge. Tim-o-thy: Yeah, yes. Tre: But you may have to do something to win that prize, like answer a question, or anything like that. anyway, hey, we're having fun. We're gonna continue to have fun. We thank you all for joining us. If you have not already done so, please go ahead and give us a consider of hitting that subscription button and that notification bell, share it with a friend. yeah, and we will talk to you soon and hope to see you over there on the full package. Which is now up on Patreon. Bye y'all. wait. Wait. Tim-o-thy: Tá. Tre: Wait. I'm gonna let you say and remember Tim-o-thy: Everyone, let's remember to live, grow. Tre: So close, so close. Tim-o-thy: Learn, grow. And live. Tre: There it is. So remember, like he said, to keep learning, keep growing as we keep living together. Bye y'all.