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Behind the Ink: Love, Life & Lowrider Culture with Kayla · The REALationship Method

• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Are you ready?
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, my four three two one.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to another episode of the Relationship Method Podcast.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: It's your boy Chris.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Today I have one of Hawaii's favorites.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um she is a model.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: A lowrider.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: A low rider model at that.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: She's uh a tattoo artist going on for three years now.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: And she's also a mama bear.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: Aww.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Awwww.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Motherfucker, I got Miss Caleb on this bitch.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Hello! Hello.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: Miss Caleb.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: What's up?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: How's it going?
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: Man, it it is going.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've been up since wee early of the morning.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: I I seen that.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I seen your DM.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, right?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was taking a shit.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, people that don't know, uh, I said this before.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh when I wake up and I'm in the bathroom, that's when I do a lot of my responding.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: Same.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, on the toilet.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: Same.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because when I'm with the fam, my phone is down because I have to tend to these kids and I have to tend to the spouse.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, feel that.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: But also, I feel like the toilet is like your thinking chair.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, let's normalize that.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like as parents or even as a person, yes.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: Normalize the the back of the space.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: You're in a little space.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: You're in a little cubicle, you know?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: No kids to bother you, no noise, except your own thoughts.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, same.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: Feel you.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Little poop ploop here and there.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: Kayla, do you uh Kayla, do you drive?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: Are you a left-handed steering wheel or a right-handed steering wheel?
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a right-handed steering wheel person.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Are you really?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a car that's the the steering steering wheels on the right?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: JDM?
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: I will.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you mean like if I drive with the right hand?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, like your steering wheel, is it on the right?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's a left hand.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like a normal car.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Just a normal car?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was thinking the other day.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I normally drive with my left hand.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: But I wipe my butt with my right.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: But I tried this, I couldn't wipe my ass with my left.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: Therefore, I trust my life with my left, my non-dominant hand.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: Are you the same way?
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: So you drive right, you wipe right.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Why is that?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I do a damn thing with my left hand, honestly.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: You can't do tattoo with your left, or do you hold it?
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing I do with my left hand is the stretching, which is so funny because I have carpal tunnel in this hand.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: What else is wrong with Miss Pink?
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm blind.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: I was born deaf, y'all, and I got carpal tunnel, leave me alone.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you got carpal tunnel on your left, yeah?
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: It comes and goes, but I really don't know why.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: I've had it since before I was like an a full-time artist.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like at my other jobs, my office jobs, it would come and grow.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would feel like that.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like also too, my mom had it.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hereditary.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, but she said it's probably because this hand is not really like doing much.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's just not a real hand.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's just there to take up space.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it comes and goes.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: I actually just it actually just went away.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like carpal tunnel.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: Are you doing are you?
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's a carpal.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's carpal tunnel or a ganglion cis.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: I really haven't gone to the doctor for it.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, whatever.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: That was a great word.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: A ganglion a list.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: A ganglion cis?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Ganglion sis.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: You learned something new today.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: I sure did.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: I knew I knew what a cyst was, but the ganglion thing.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: That means you're either educated or you got it looked at.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: I looked on Google.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: There you go.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like everything else in life.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: Chat GPT, that motherfucker.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Thank God for your AI and ChatGPT.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Are you a big believer or do you do you depend a lot of things on AI?
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: No?
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Good for you.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: Neither do I.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: So, like in the tattoo industry, a lot of people are starting to create designs with AI.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: Holy fuck.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've seen those.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and you can tell too when it's AI to not AI'd, even if you're not an artist.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: But personally, the reason why I fell in love with tattooing is for the creativity.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like AI is just kind of taking that away in a sense.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, really?
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, for people that don't know, like, how did you start?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so tattooing.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: How did you start tattooing?
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I work at Tattoo Crew out here in Waipahu.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: The owner, Ryan Lau, is actually my uncle.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's my dad's stepbrother.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been around that since I basically was born because my uncle had Tattoo Crew since I was born.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so just being up brought in that, you know, my dad has tattoos, my whole family has tattoos, my papa, uncles, you know.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: I just fell in love with it.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I grew up loving to draw.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I actually started off doing ombre brows.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: For you guys who don't know what that is, it's just uh semi-permanent makeup eyebrows.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was doing it in my uncle's shop.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I was kind of scared to tattoo because I feel like a lot of people tell you, like, you know, tattooing is not a real job, you're not gonna make real money off that, you can't survive off that.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: I've heard it a lot, trust me.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Even with ombre brows, that's why I had a second job.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I had a nine of five and then ombre brows, but one day I was just like, you know what, I want to go for it.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I talked with my uncle, asked him if he would let me apprentice under him, and here I am today, three years into tattooing.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it started with the eyebrows, and then your uncle took you under his wing as an apprentice, and you took the apprenticeship, and that's how you started.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: For people that don't have um, you know, that type of resource, the uncle, right?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: How can one become an apprentice in this um tattooing career?
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I would say just kind of build your portfolio, you know, keep drawing, tattoo on fake skin, just continue to be creative and put yourself out there, go to different tattoo shops, show them your portfolio.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get no a lot.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, of course, you're gonna get no a lot.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, even if I wasn't, even if I didn't have an uncle and I had to go out there, I know I'd be told no a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just keep grinding, creep, keep hustling, and don't take no for an answer.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, what should these portfolios consist of?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like what's a um, I mean, I know every artist has a style.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's like a a drawing, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So like just keep drawing, but also like don't limit yourself, don't put yourself in a box.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh research different types of art.
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  SPEAKER_00: Try to, you know, put yourself into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have your own style, but don't limit yourself.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just keep drawing, have a bunch of drawings to show the shop you're going to.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: To show your range of art history.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: And also, too, I would feel like uh like research the shop you're trying to go to.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Cause not everybody, not everybody is for you, you know.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: Facts.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: Facts.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Miss Kayla, um, what is your tattoo style or honestly, Chicano art, which sucks because nobody in Hawaii loves doing that.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: I have a few clients, and shout out to my fiance because he lets me do whatever he I want on him.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I have a few clients who are down to do the Chicano style.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: I love.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: I love the whole prison art style, the stippling.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, let me tell you, my wife is into it.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: Because she's Hispanic.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: She's half Hispanic, half Native American.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, shout out wifey.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: She um we're gonna link up because uh me and her, we got this uh this skull tattoo, and yeah, and then she's all chicana doubt, you know what I'm saying?
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: So um that's what's up.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Not too many um tattoo artists out here do that type of style.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's all um tribal, island, Asian, yeah, yeah.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna stay, we're gonna stay on this um tattoo topic for a little bit.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what is a red flag as a tattoo artist that you know when when a male or a female is asking you and you're like, okay, this is what you want.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's a red flag?
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: Names.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, your other half's name.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Your other half's name.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: How about your kids?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: Is that okay?
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have my daughter's name.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's also just such a a thing out here, especially.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, to have your kids' name.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but your other half's name, I know from experience, guys, don't get it tattooed.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's really bad luck, personally.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm never gonna get my like I've been with my wife for X amount of years now, and I told her I'm never getting like a tattoo.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, my fiance now I have his first letter initial, but that's about as far as I'm going.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not anything.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: It could be animal.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: Clearly, yes.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: But don't do the names, guys.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, 99.9% of the time you're gonna get it covered.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: I've I know from experience, so please don't do it.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: What else is a red flag?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um how about uh no limit or God can only judge me.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: Stop.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: I had that tattooed.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: I covered it.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: Which one?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: The no limit or God got it?
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Only God can judge me.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Why did you cover that up?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's such a uh it's a such a symbolic quote.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yes.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I grew up I'm Catholic.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not like hardcore Catholic, but I'm baptized Catholic, my family's Catholic.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Same.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I just felt like I don't know.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Is it like ick?
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: That and I feel like everyone was getting it, and like I know a lot of people who have it that aren't even like religious.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like I don't know, I don't want people to look at me and like judge me because I feel like at that time when I had that tattoo, I was already getting hella tattoos.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: So the stigma is like, girl, do you even go to church?
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I just didn't like explaining myself to people.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I still obviously have to explain because I do have a religious sleeve, you know.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: I got Mother Mary Jesus, but just the whole only God can judge me.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's a stigma behind that tattoo.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like are you sure only God can judge you?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: What's a what's a red flag?
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: What's a green flagged one?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, um what makes you go, oh shit, I'm dude.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: I want this.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: I want to do this tattoo.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't really speak on this because a lot of my tattoos don't have meaning at this point.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I love when people come to me and they're like, This is what I want to do, this is symbolic to this.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: And they give me a whole life story.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: I love that because that means you kind of took time to think about your tattoo.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I tell a lot of young girls who come to me.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I have a lot of uh young girl clients that just got out of high school, you know.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Fun fact, guys, I'm 30.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like I wouldn't have never guessed.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like gonna cry.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: I just turned 30 in June.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: But cancer baby?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Gemini.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: What's the colour?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Gemini tattoos.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I think it's the 21st.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm on the 24th.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're a June baby?
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we still we still twinning.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, so a lot a lot of my young girl clients or even like boy clients that come to me that are younger, I tell them to really think about their tattoos.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because if I I say this all the time, if I had a chance to go back in time and redo a lot of my tattoos, I would.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: But at the time it's what I wanted, you know.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I just wish more of them had meeting meaning to me, and you know, I planned it out a little more.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I love when people come to me with a story.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh first impression when someone's meeting you for the very first time, seeing you with these tattoos.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like, do you ever get a story behind that?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh man, I thought you was some sort of a bitch or a hard ass.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't really think it's more of the tattoos.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I do get a lot of people who tell me, like, even my friends now, like two of my best friends that are also bridesmaids at my wedding, we were not getting along.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they told me, like, oh, I thought you were a bitch.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is it the RBF?
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: My fiance says I have RBF all the time.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see it, but tweet your tongue.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I hear that a lot.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um But yeah, I I feel like it's more so of the older generation who has like a stigma.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, of course, of course.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: It took my grandma a long time to warm up to my tattoos because I'm the second oldest grandchild, yeah, but I'm the grandchild who got tattooed first, like the most.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so when I started coming around with you know other places that she was like, dude, that's Hella scene.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like people are gonna see that.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: She wasn't too happy, but she warmed up to it.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_00: She loves my tattoos now, so Oh, good for you.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you nang.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Nana.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, whatever you want to be called.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: What's the most meaningful tattoo that you've done?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, probably my angel wings.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's for my grandpa who passed away.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: How about the one that you've done on someone else?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh if you remember.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because yeah, I I could only imagine you've done thousands of tattoos.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably I've done two uh like memorial tattoos that were pretty like meaningful to the person, and the design was really pretty too.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean any memorial tattoo, I'm grateful to be able to be the artist to do that for them.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I can't really remember like off the top though.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, how about this one?
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: What's the w uh wildest tattoo that someone asked you to do?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: And the location.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I haven't had any crazy ones yet, no.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, okay.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: So no, like I've seen some crazy ones in my life.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen some of them too, but you personally no.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: This might be a personal one.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, wait, wait.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I have a client who her man is in prison.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: She never met him in person.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: She never met him in person.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: It was like a situation.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so long story short, she told me that her homeboy was in prison, was on a phone call with him, and her man just so happened to like be in the FaceTime.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's how they started dating.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: She got his name tattooed big as hell across on her chest.
• 15:34
  unknown: Oh.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: She never she didn't even meet him yet.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, girl, are you sure you want to do this?
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Yep, do it.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: Funny story, they're not even together anymore.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder where she is right now.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean Do you ever keep in touch with your little?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: I do, yeah.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: I love keeping in touch with my clients, even if they don't come back to me, you know, as often.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: I do have my clientele who come back every month or two, and I have some who come back every year or two.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm still gonna keep in contact with them.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like I follow all my clients just to keep that relationship with them.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I want them to feel comfortable and not not that I'm just like an artist to them, like I'm a friend.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: And you do touch-ups with them too.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: First touch-up is free.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Man, holla at my girl Kayla in Waipahu.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: 94 blocks.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: 94.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Miss Kayla, um, before we start going, um, how did this interaction happen?
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, how did it happen?
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: I was probably sitting on a toilet, shot a DM, and replied.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think you did.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then I think after you DM'd me, obviously I went to your page, researched, and then I seen you interviewed Kaylee, who's my niece now.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then I think I called her just to see like what's up.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Yeah, you're cool people.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: So shout out Kaylee.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Kaylee, thank you.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh she's in Oregon now.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: She's actually home.
• 17:06
  unknown: Yeah.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's not going to school in Oregon no more?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she's here for the summer.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I just seen her last weekend.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Oregon, uh, Montana.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: She is in Montana.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't even know.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not trying to disclose her.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Her location like that.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, Oregon, Montana.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: She's in there.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: She's over there.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: She's over there.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's get these motherfuckers going.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, do do do do.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: What's something motherhood taught you that surprised you?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Patience.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: I still don't have a lot of it, but I have more than I used to.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, neither as a parent.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, as I get I guess as I get older, my patience is pretty good.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: But when I was a young parent, I was snappy.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: I still have those days where, you know, you just snap, but that's a normal.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like as long as as a parent you learn how to say sorry to your kids.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Cause I mean, I feel like older generation, like, they don't really know how to say sorry.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is true.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, my parents, they don't they don't say sorry.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just like a they're not in tune with their feelings.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: I believe like older.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like a okay, you good, you're ready to go eat.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: You should already know.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I kind of want to break that for my daughter for my kids, you know.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I want to show them that you know it's okay to be sorry.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay to make mistakes.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Just say sorry, be sorry and learn from it.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Breaking the cycle is so hard nowadays, especially when you know, Filipino families.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know about yours, but mine was like semi-strict, right?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so I'm actually mixed.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh mixed.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: My mom's side is Filipino.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: My dad is Filipino, Portuguese, Hawaiian, Irish.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm closer to my dad's side.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I wouldn't say my family's like super strict, but my mom's side, like my grandma, super strict.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: My mom was a hard ass.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, both my parents were a hard ass.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm an only child at that.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, expectations were like here.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I just think um that older generation, they just don't know how to say sorry, honestly.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is true.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: This is real.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how do you make time for yourself without feeling guilty?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like your time should be with the kids or you know, with her fiance.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like how do you balance that out?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I haven't really learned how to really do that up until recently.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um I go to therapy.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: And that my therapist actually taught me how to not feel guilty for that kind of stuff because I feel like as a parent, especially, you just naturally feel guilty when you go take care of yourself.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: But um she taught me like it's okay to be selfish with your time sometimes because if not, you're not gonna be happy.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can't just revolve your life around everyone else, even your own kids.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: So she said, even if it's like going to do your nails, going to do your hair, you know, which obviously I do as a female, but that's just small stuff I do to not feel guilty, you know, like self-maintenance.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, I mean I just keep telling myself it's okay.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm still present for my my kids, present for my fiance, so it's okay to have you time basically.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: Have after therapy.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing wrong with therapy, dude.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, there's nothing wrong.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody thinks it's such a bad thing, or like, you know, also that's another stigma around that.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it is.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: You should try it.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because it makes you feel a lot like less weight in life, I feel.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's because it's um it's a person that you don't know, so it's non-biased.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I love my therapist.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: And the therapist is coming from, I guess shit, no, not I guess, but I know they're coming from a good place.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like from talking to No judgment.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no judgment, talking to hundreds of people for hours.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yo, this is the deal.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I myself, um, the only re the reason why I wake up so early, because that's like my me time, you know?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like I get to do, I get to watch sports, no kids, no wife involved.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: I I get to walk my dog, I get to go to the gym.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: And this is all like in the morning because of course I got that regular nine to five, right?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: But then from five on, it's kids, wife, you know, like house, you know, and then other than that, it's sleep.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: So the a lot of time that I have, that's like it's very crucial for me to like ha really have it.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when's your me time?
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: Or is it is it when you go out to get pampered and everything?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like do you Yeah, obviously like self care, but like the gym.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Gym would probably be like my me time 'cause you're getting stressed out while you're working out, you know.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's no kids.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: No kids.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's probably my favorite me time if anything.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, what kind of example do you hope to set for your child?
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Children.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: To your children.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um basically to just this is gonna sound super cliche, but to just be a good person.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like don't follow the crowd.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: And this is coming from personal experience growing up.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Just be yourself, don't be in a rush to do anything in life and just I don't even know.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Just I don't know, because I feel like everything that I've been through going up, like I just try to prevent that for my kids.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: So bottom line, just be for right now, be a kid.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Grow up a kid, don't grow up too fast.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's so hard because I feel like kids nowadays they're s they're so mature because of social media, because of you know, freaking YouTube, everything that they see.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then um, you know, being that our kids are from a blended family, I feel like that also does make them grow up a little fast.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I tell them all the time, like, don't be in a rush, like slow down.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Cause if I had the chance to go back and be a freaking kid and not pay these bills, yes, I would do that.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and I see these freaking nostalgia videos on TikTok and YouTube.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, bro, I gotta log off.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right, it just brings you back.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, makes me cry.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't cry, but I'm like, dang, I do miss it.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it makes me cry.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like these people.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I do miss the days where yeah, I didn't have to pay no bills.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't have to worry about the internet, I didn't have to worry about what what yep, Wi-Fi, work, on how to get to place to place.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: I just stayed my ass at home and eat for free.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, girl.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how did you get into the lowrider community?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so um, I was actually just like regular modeling prior to like low rider, lowrider modeling, um, probably like a year and a half before I got into low riding.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um my first shoot, I don't know if you're familiar with farmers market out here.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard of them.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: So that was my first like big shoot.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: Other than that, I was just doing like beat shoots and stuff, but um I think I went to like a lowrider meet or car show.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I just was like already in love with like old school cars.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: My dad had a buggy, my uncle had a lowrider, my papa had an old school VW van.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I already grew up around that, but um, I think what really made me fall in love with it was just like going to the car shows and then um shout out to Garrett, his original Instagram name I think was like Lokes and Spokes, but I was in love with his car when I seen it.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Was it an old school caddy?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, the boat, yeah.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: So uh I just was like, hey, can I shoot with your car?
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then he gave me the opportunity to have my first lowrider shoot, and it kind of just went up from there, really.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, it's kind of just how I got into low riding, lowrider modeling.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can't really be scared to like put yourself out there.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I would go out to these meets, see different cars I would fall in love with, and hit up the owner.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: Is the community big out here in Hawaii?
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not, it's not big at all, but it's tight.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's tight, it's a real tight-knit community, which I love, and I think that's what I love the most about low riding.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's such a tight-knit community, and you know, just the culture of it all.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I was telling you before we even started the podcast, like out here in Hawaii is so family-based.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's the same with low riding.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, in Cali, I told you this.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, oh no, I haven't.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the low riding community is is super big.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then you'll see like the old school OGs.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's why I love caddies so much with the spokes and the ain't and the dating rims.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Beautiful with the bumps.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: Story time.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I went to a to a car event, right?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was mixed with imports and lowriders.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: I tried um my what my sophomore year headass.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I tried talking to one of the females, right?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: They're super mature, they're all busted out.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, um, I was like, hey, um, what's your AOL chat name?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: AOL.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, the boyfriend came up, it was like, oh, what's up, little puto?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, I was like, what's up, man?
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, he was he was so cool that, you know, like he gave me props for talking to his chick, but he was like, hey little vato.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh yeah, respect, respect, respect, respect.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because I I was all I wanted to do was take a picture with the model, right?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: A model and the car.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what they're there for.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I think it's um because not too many Asians, you know, when I was growing up, was into that type of style.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was because I grew up with a lot of Chicanos and everything.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's so normal in Cali too, like the whole Asian Chicano.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh, oh yeah, because um I grew up in uh in a city called Marina and right beside it, Salinas, and a lot of the um the Hispanics, they were uh they picked lettuce, like in the field.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I would um like I would chop it up with them.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: And also like their kids would go to like I went to school with their kids, you know, elementary, middle school, and high school.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I would chop it up with them, and um, like sometimes they would drive their whips to the high school and stuff, and I'm like, you're like damn, I want that shit.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, especially being in a whip with you know with the hydros on.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right, and just oh hell yeah.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: I love that shit.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, as a kid, I love that shit so much.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, um, do they have that out here?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the hydroxy.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: There's only a few people that really have it, but yeah, yeah.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to my boy Um Los and his wife Shy.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: They have a caddy out here.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's uh it's a low rider, and it's uh they have uh hydros on that shit.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: Are they in a club?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: Last name's uh Puga?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Puga?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: P-U-G-A?
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Capillet.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm so bad at names, never mind.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know why I asked.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, womp womp.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: But um, but yeah, so uh why I've only seen you modeling in front of um in lowriders.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: Why aren't these other models out here having that opportunity?
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Are you like the main person?
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um man, let's hit up Kayla.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: I want to say the main person, but you are like someone see a lot of girls modeling low riders out here.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I just had this conversation with my photographer and um another homegirl.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like you are appreciated more in the scene when you actually love the culture and aren't just there to take pictures.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because there are girls who show up to these meets and these shows just to take pictures with the car, but you don't see them looking at the car, you don't see them really knowing their shit, you don't see them being like, damn, like I want this one day.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like personally, when I go to the shows, like nine out of ten times, I won't even really model there, like I'm just there to be there and look at the cars.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like um, you know, some of the owners respect you a little more when you actually love the lifestyle and aren't just there to take pictures.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you love their old school music?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, hell yeah.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's played a lot in my household.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: My my daughter literally loves that shit.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: Because this music, the songs.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, yeah.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what they're saying.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, is that your real hair?
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say a joke, but it's her real hair.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's my real hair, folks.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: Don't even try to pay me on that.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what's the biggest misconception about women in this scene?
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, a lot.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, for those who know me prior to this podcast, you'll clearly see I'm in bikinis on my Instagram and all that stuff.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Does it make you a hoe?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know what a real hoe is, like just don't even use that terminology, you know?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, for sure, that's like the stigma around females modeling is just like you're a hoe, you know, you're easy, you're you know, just because you're confident in your body doesn't make you a hoe.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I go home to my fiancé, you know, actually my fiance's with me on all these freaking shoots.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: I met him.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: I met him, pretty cool guy.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's with me at every single thing, every event, every shoot, and I go home with him right after I'm done.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm not a hoe.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that's like the main stigma is like, oh, these hoes are out here posing on cars, or you know, even if you're not a car model, you could just be like a bikini model or a model in general.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you're a hoe.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of what it is.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: It kind of it bothered me in the beginning, but honestly, now I'm just at that point where it's like whatever, because I've been modeling for eight years already, so I think it's past that in my mind.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't really get bothered anymore.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think maturity has a has to deal with it too.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Cause um, you know, as a young model, you're naive.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yes.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then as you get older, it's more of I'm rubber band, your glue bounces me off me, sticks on you, type of situation and deal.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean, that's a lot of that's like one thing I do tell girls who, you know, message me or meet them in person and they're like asking for advice as far as modeling and like starting.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: I just tell them, like, don't be naive, you know.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: For one, don't be naive, stand your ground when it comes to people, you know, like photographers and stuff.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, don't do something you don't want to do.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Just because you want to get out there.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: And three, you can't care about what people say about you for real.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: You really can't.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, oh, I I've um ever since I started this podcast, I haven't received like any hate yet, right?
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: But once I started going, I'm getting those types of DMs and comments.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm like, oh dude.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: I've not I've never responded, but I'm just like, dude, what's up with the hate?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it don't hurt my feelings.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: But you're just like, what the hell?
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, like, dog, I'm doing something.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Why aren't you doing?
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I could go really in on them.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: I could flame them up, but nah, it's not even worth your time, honestly.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, exactly.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: They're not doing nothing for you.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: I know, they're just keyboard keyboard warriors.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: With them thumbs.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: I bet you them thumbs are buff.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know what I'm saying?
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: They got a little muscle right here and shit.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: For sure, yeah.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: Kayla, what motivates you when business is slow?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: My kids.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: My kids, my kids, my kids, because my kids gotta eat.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't give a shit if I don't eat, genuinely.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: But um, you know, as a mom, I feel like that's a lot of our motivation is our kids.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing else.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I could give a shit if I have a dollar to my name tomorrow or for the next week or for the next month.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: As long as my kids are good, fed, healthy, well, I don't care.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: But that's my only motivation for all.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's an honest one.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I I believe every parent 99.99%.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would hope so.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: I hope so too.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: Take care of your kids.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: I know, right?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: You don't want to go, you know, they don't want growing.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of kids, um, are you familiar with what's happening on the mainland, this whole YN thing?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it's, you know, a bunch of badass kids just doing badass shit.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see that happening out here?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, um, not a cycle, but some sort of wave that's happening out here where kids now in Hawaii are wearing like hoodies, ski masks, and stuff and just doing wrong.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't know.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Or has that always been a thing?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like out here that's such a normal, and that's so sad to say.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: But like I know like when mainland people, you know, they hear about our gang activity, they're like, it's Hawaii.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, there's hella gang activity out here, and there's kids with guns, there's kids dying because of these guns, knives, all that shit.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's been a normal here.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Even when I was growing up.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's I don't I would say it's not as bad as when I was growing up, but it for sure hasn't died down.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you hear every so often on the news, oh, this kid died because of a shooting.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this kid's in jail because he shot so and so, you know, it's sad.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's the parents who are down for that shit.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, hell yeah, my kid got a gun, and that's sad.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yes, you might have been brought up in all that stuff, and you want your kids to be gangster and all that, but you don't need to have them in that upbringing, I feel.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: This is true.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so parents should be more accountable then for sure, because you know, growing up, I don't like to brag about it, but like I have been in fights in high school, and I tell my daughter all the time, like, I don't want you to go through that.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: That is like that was my mom's nightmare.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, she didn't know when I was gonna get into a freaking fight at school, and she would hate when I would have to call her and be like, Mom, I just got into a fight.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there was one time I literally got arrested for it in school.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: She had to pick me up, so that's like one thing I just don't want my daughter to go through.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's good because it's a scary thing to get a call.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, and then you know, of a fight.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's another scary thing to get a call of your kid being in the casket.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's what I think about now as a parent.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, my kid could get into a fight, someone could smash her head on the concrete, she could die.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like just stuff like that that you didn't think about as a kid, as a parent, now you're thinking about it ten times more, and you're just like, oh hell no.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: So as a parent now, what is your way of settling a um an inconvenience then?
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like for for your kid, like let's um let's say your kid's getting in a situation.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: What is your tip for the kid?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_01: For your kid, I mean.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: You mean like as far as like bullying and stuff?
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like is it okay to be a punk and walk away?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna be completely honest here.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: My daughter actually was going through this, uh, not this past school year, but the school year before that.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: I was getting calls left and right, and it was a boys.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: She was bullying boys?
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, she was getting bullied by boys.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like uh one of them threw her lunch away, one of them tried to throw a chair at her, one of them threw a rock at her, and it was like an occurring thing.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: So there was there a reason sorry for cutting you off.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: Was there a reason for that happening?
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: Or okay, so I'm not gonna say what school she goes to, but her school, they do this thing where they um integrate, you know, the special not super special needs kids, but you know, those kids with kids who they feel can help them or will be good with them in the classroom.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, she was in one of those classrooms, and you know, the VP told me, like, you know, your we love your daughter, like she's such a sweetheart, she's good with other kids, she's caring, so we feel like she's good for this classroom.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: So it was those those boys, which when we went to our first parent teacher meeting about that, I tried to have grace, you know.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know what's going on in these kids' homes for them to act out.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I know like from what they're telling me, they're more um attention-needed kids, so I'm trying to have grace, but even after that parent teacher meeting, if it's still happening, what are you doing?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like take my kid out or take those kids out.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, to answer your question, um I tell my daughter, you know, just try to be kind, but you know, if somebody puts your hands on you, you're I'm giving you permission to put your hands on them back because it's not it's not fair, you know, like there's no there's absolutely no way I'm gonna have my daughter get hit and not hit back.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's just how I was brought up.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: I told her I'm not condoning you to fight, but if you need to defend yourself, go for it.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: And she's such a sweetheart, she's like, but I'm gonna get in trouble by the principal.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Am I my teacher?
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, girl, you're not gonna get in trouble with me.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's all that matters.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: I tell my kids that too.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm like, I don't give a shit.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: I will go in there and defend you.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's basically my advice to her.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I just tell her, wait till they put their hands on you first.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: Don't be uh instigator, yes, don't initiate it.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: Tell a teacher if you don't feel comfortable telling a teacher, call me.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because she has a cell phone.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's wild how these kids are growing up now.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, you know, because uh I didn't have a cell phone until I was sixth grade.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, I grew up with a pager, so you know it's one of them I need 35 cents to use a uh paypacker and call call daddy.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: For real, for real.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, here's another here's one.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh should couples have separate bank accounts?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I agree.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh why is that?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you say that?
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for one, me and my fiancee have separate bank accounts.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I told him, even after we get married, I don't want us to have a joint one.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we could have a joint savings specifically for the kids that we don't touch.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as like joint, I just feel like your money's your money, my money's my money.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: As long as our bills are paid and we're on the same page, you do what you want with your money.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like I don't like pocket watching.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, as long as we're taken care of and I know everything in our circle is good, I don't want to pocket watch you because that's unhealthy.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: Is it really?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like money is such a big issue in a lot of marriages.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: Not even just marriages, just relationships.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen it firsthand.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, me and my wife, we have a joint account.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: But um I'd be finding myself taking money out of our joint account and putting it in like like say a different account, just in case shit happens account.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like she doesn't question me because she knows like my intention.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but Kayla, let me tell you, I am getting sick and tired of seeing my shit, our shit dwindling down because of Starbucks, Starbucks, Starbucks, laboo-boo.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Starbucks.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can't really talk shit.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm not a Starbucks girly, I'm a coffee bean girly.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_01: Coffee bean?
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, coffee bean.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, fuck, might as well fucking buy some shit at home.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: But okay, to your point, separate accounts is good.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, will there ever be a situation or a time where you and your fiancee would have a joint?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we do have like a joint savings right now.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's just literally like we need to put money aside, you know, just in case anything happens.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, no.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's very honest with his money.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: I have access to his bank account and vice versa.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: So why do we need a joint?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: If he can see my money, I can see his money.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's necessary, you know.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: Valid.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Is it okay to keep in touch with an ex if there's no romantic interest?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_01: Why so, Miss Kayla?
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: I just think I don't know.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like that.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: I I just feel like nine out of ten times that just doesn't lead down a good road, you know?
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_00: I just feel like you can't be friends with your ex.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, genuinely.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I just feel like there's always gonna be something there.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: We could have a discussion about this.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm I'm I'm friends with a couple of my exes.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, did it end bad?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: Actually, no.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's your answer.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was cordial.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was more of, man, it's just not working out, man.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I I agree.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, well.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then But like, does your partner know about that?
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: With the exes?
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, hold on.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, opening your mouth.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cut the camera.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, no, wait, wait, does she she does, cause my my baby mama, uh, because my oldest kid, my oldest child, the one that's going to college, we talked about this.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I had I had her with uh a different female.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Before meeting my wife.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: But they're cordial, like they're they're not like the best of friends, but yeah, cordial for the kids.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: So all that matters.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um friends with exes.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was be wait, so it's your baby mama that you're friends with, or no?
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_01: We're not f I don't see it's it it's it's hard to label it because I I'm always gonna have love for the girl, but I'm just gonna be like back here while she's doing her thing.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm back here.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, all right.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, good for you.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like that.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um why not?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like the whole I got love for.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: You no.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Why you're not like that was like my first everything.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: Why why not have no?
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like personally, I just feel like I've gone through so much stuff that I'm just like I don't trust that shit at all.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I could understand if you know if you don't trust everything, but mature mature wise, like if you know if you can keep it like separated, like this is just it's nothing big.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm a big believer on like being cordial for sure.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like um, like I said earlier, we're a blended family, right?
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we're all cordial.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's no issue.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as like you being friendly, personally, no.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like she's not gonna get invited to the cookout?
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hell no.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: And vice versa.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know what's funny about this situation?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: My uncle in Cali, uh, he remarried, he has an ex-wife.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: His ex-wife is his kids' um godparent.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh lord.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's that old traditional shit.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't know if I could do that.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh no?
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's a no for you.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's a mature shit right there.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: I could I that I can't fathom all.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I feel like just you being cordial in general is mature.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because Miss Kayla taking the d the low road.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, fuck that shit.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I feel like every parent who gotta deal with like uh their other parent and they're not together, it's not gonna always be good at first.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's just what it is.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: But like to come to terms and be like ma uh, you know, cordial eventually.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: That says a lot already.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: Cause I know some people who still aren't cordial with their kids' other parent till like they're 18, 19, 20.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I already give myself props for that.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what it's gonna be.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: She gave herself kudos and I'm getting all that shit.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that's about it.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's where it's gonna stay.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Miss Kayla, let me ask you this then.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're switching topics.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what do hairstyles and tattoos say about a guy or a female?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_01: So let's start with the female.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you see a female with some sort of tattoos and uh and the style are can you tell me like what it would like what does it mean from your eyes?
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: I just think that they're in tune with themselves, like their creativity.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I feel like for a girl or a guy, when it comes to having tattoos, that's kind of you telling everybody like I don't give a shit what you think about me.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is what I want to look like, this is how this is what makes me happy.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's my life.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you like it or not.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I get from male and female.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: Even if it's one of those red flag tattoos that you mentioned.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, let's I don't want to say what I really want to say about that.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: No, I might get cancelled.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: How about um okay, females is easy.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: Male.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: When you see a certain type of hairstyle or haircut on a guy, like what?
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: To be an example.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um like a side comb.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_01: The side comb.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: What does that tell you about a guy?
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: Before I even answer this, I feel like I feel like um the guy makes the hairstyle.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_01: The personality, or is it the feet the the facial features?
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like the personality, because I mean my fiance was bald.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's trying to grow a mullet now, and when I met him, he had like a skin fade, and then he would sometimes grow his top out and do like a little side comb.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think he looked good in any of them.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: But some people just can't pull off some stuff.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not trying to be mean, but you know, some a side comb might make you look a little nerdy sometimes.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: A little nerdy, okay.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just and then personally, I don't think I like my man bald.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: It makes him look older.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like it makes him look old.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like he still looks good, but I don't that's like my least favorite.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_01: I heard opposite.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: No older makes you look younger, hair makes you look older.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: He looks older, and I feel like he looks more like a dick.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: As in like, oh, this is a motherfucker that I do not want to mess with at a movie theater.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: But that's okay though.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: I want to see.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: For me, yeah, for a male.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: How about the um it's very popular right now, the high taper blowout.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's so it's it's it's a high taper.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know what a taper is.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, the guy's hair is just it's just blown out.
• 49:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like oh a lot of people have that.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: You don't like that?
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_01: Why what what makes it so weird?
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's just not what I grew up seeing.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: What do you girl?
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: You grew up seeing what?
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: The mid-fade?
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: The mid-fade, uh, the rat tails.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I seen the rat tails.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: The mullets.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: The mullets being all bald, obviously.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: But these crazy hairstyles, I'm just like, what?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: To each its own.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, to each its own.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: If you think you look good, that's all that matters.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Cause I mean, people might think that about me.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like everyone has their own opinion.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: People might think I look crazy, and that's fine.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: How about facial piercings?
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm for it or not?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm for it to an extent.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think there is a such a thing as too much.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: What's too much?
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: On a female first.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: On a female, I feel like a cute little nose piercing, maybe like one lip piercing.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_00: I used to have a dermal, a face dermal here.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's cute.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: But like when you start doing like four lip piercings, two nose uh two here, and then you know that little shit here.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then yeah, that eyebrow.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, babe, you're pretty.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you this.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: When you see a guy with an eyebrow earring, or ring, eyebrow ring, off the top of your head, what does Kayla's thinking?
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that kind of goes with like hand in hand with the hair.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like some guys can pull it off, some guys can't.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just think it doesn't look right on some people.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: It makes you just look a little femme.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Am I allowed to say that?
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you e you can say whatever the fuck you want.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: I have the little E, you know?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: We're good.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think it just makes some guys look femme.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it is.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_01: I got you on that one.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Loki, I have been begging my fiance to let me pierce my eyebrow.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, fuck no.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like a little cute diamond one.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, no, you're gonna look like a butchie.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, cool, never mind.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: Is that the stigma with butches?
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Or uh women that like women?
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: I guess.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean the stigma of having- I think a lot of uh women who like women, they're more into the face piercing.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I I guess at least here.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: Is it?
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like growing up, okay, in Waipahu.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna start no I'm gonna notice that shit now.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in Waipahu, like in school, a lot of the lesbians had facial piercings, like a lot, like the crazy ones, not just a nose piercing, like a lip piercing, a lip hoot, eyebrow piercing.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess like in our generation, that's what it is.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: While I was growing up, piercings were I guess a lot of kids were rebellious, and that's their outlet, just getting pierced up.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: But it never was out there as oh, I'm a lesbian or whatnot.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_01: Or gay or any of those.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_00: I guess that's the same as tattoos, uh self-expression and rebellion.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: How old were you when you got your first?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: 14.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was a small little cute one.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_01: How old can a person out here in Hawaii get one?
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_00: So you can our personally our shop, I think the youngest we take is like 13, but you need to have your parent there to sign for you and stay with you.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how it was back in the day, but my dad took me to get my first tattoo.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then my s my wings was when I was 16.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I could see the wings because it's a meaningful tattoo.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: But like right when I graduated two years after that, I got my leg piece.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_01: So just got blasted.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: Hypothetical, I'm your kid, just turned 13.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: Mom, I want a tat.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm gonna say the same thing, like my dad said.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Are you sure?
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh what?
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: He told me I need to approve the design and I'm going with you.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I can't I feel like I can't tell my kids no, because look at me.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I can't be like, hell no, you're not getting a tattoo while I'm a tattoo artist.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's just stupid.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: As long as I'm gonna make sure like they're doing it safe and they actually know what they're putting on their body, it's fine.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: The location of it.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's gonna it's gonna be hidden for a little bit.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're gonna get hidden tattoos until you're old enough to make that decision.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_00: That was my dad's rule, too.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_00: So okay.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: So what is 18 the Yeah.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: After 18, I was like, sorry, dad, I'm going on my leg.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: Now he's just like, oh, cool, you got another.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_00: They can't even tell when I have a new tattoo at this point.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because you have so many.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dad.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Here's another one.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: Handling people saying that they know you, but really don't know you.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: How do you handle those folks?
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think I just don't.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think with that and like you know, um negative commentary, just anything that I don't want to hear, I just don't deal with it.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: I just block it out.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like you can't control other people.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: So if other people are gonna say, Oh, I know her, I can't tell them what to say and what not to say, and I can't tell other people to believe them or not.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: So it is what it is.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you're a lot happier in life when you just focus on yourself and not what other people are saying.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I just feel like I don't deal with it.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: So you have a mass following, um, and you follow a lot of people too.
• 54:52
  unknown: Yes.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_01: So when they say, Oh man, I know Kayla, this and the third, yada yada yada, she did this, this, this.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: What do you say to that?
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um or like, oh, someone just followed you.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, yeah, I know Kayla.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: But you really it's like, oh, hey, you know, Rich.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right, right.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh well, for personally, I hate name droppers.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, even when I meet people and they're like, Oh yeah, I know your uncle, I know your whatever.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, dude, I don't care.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to me, I feel like I just laugh it off at this point.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, if I if I know you don't know me, or we're like um acquaintances, but you don't really know me, or you're just bullshitting off what you think I did in life because you heard some shit, I just laugh because I'm like, dude, you're just kidding yourself, and you're just making yourself look stupid because this island is so small.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Word gets back to everybody.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: This is true.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's no secret keeping in this island.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna do something, it's gonna get public.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: And being um, I guess somebody who's a model, a tattoo artist, who's you know, has a following, that's what it is for me.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I just have to accept it if that's gonna be my lifestyle.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I think acceptance is how I deal with it.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: Just accept just accepting the fact that people are gonna talk shit, people are gonna act like they know me, people are gonna hate.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously, you got your people who support you.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that should just outweigh everything at that point.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the DMs that you be receiving, right?
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: How dumb are they?
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, have you received any horny ones?
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: And when you do receive these horny and obscene ones, like what's what's going on in your mind?
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know what's so funny?
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_00: And my fiancee doesn't believe this shit either, but I told him ever since I really started posting him, I don't get those kind of DMs anymore.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but prior to him, oh my gosh, I used to get the weirdest shit, like Let me smile fart girl.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm not even gonna, I'm not even gonna go there.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, uh I'm sure girls who don't have a following get these.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: Cause there are just weirdo horny men out there, but I just block them because I'm like, what?
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like what the fuck?
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's like the only thing that comes to my mind is like what?
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think women could do the same thing too?
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: And be ten times as worse.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: I can't see myself doing that, so I don't know.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's uncommon, but I wouldn't knock it.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: I would accept it.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wouldn't say women don't do that shit.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure there's a lonely lady out there with I would converse.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: I would have a conversation with her, but hey, um, thank you for the comment.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_01: How's it going?
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: What the hell?
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_01: And just fucking just go.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm playing, I wouldn't do that.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's not playing, guys.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not playing.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely have a conversation.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, so what made you DM me?
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what's going on in your mind right now?
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh yeah, I just wanna buy one of your socks and smell it.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_01: That is I'm like, ooh, how much?
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I do believe this quote.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh anything has a price.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because I didn't believe that, but I think being in the industry I am in, that's yeah, it's true.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: You have a dog, someone wants your dog.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_01: Does your dog have a price?
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, maybe not like that.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: I do have a dog, and I wouldn't sell him for the world, but 100k.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: 500k?
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like with certain people, that's what it is in their life, you know, like anything has a price.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_01: Anything could be bought.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: But personally, I like um my morals that I got brought up.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: But I I do believe that in this world there are people like that.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: There is.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: There is.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Sell you my left liver for 10 bucks.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: Not even 11.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: 11.50.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_01: A meal.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: Me and my wife watched Obsession yesterday.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: Have you watched it yet?
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_00: See, I'm not even a I'm not even a I'm not a TV show person.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I ew, it's a movie.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, whatever.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: See, I don't even know.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: You don't watch movies?
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: Not really.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, not unless it's like my kids.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_01: You watched Toy Story 5?
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_00: My kids didn't.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't watch it?
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, like they went with their other parent.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think my mom took my daughter.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm a scary movie person.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: I am too.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: My fiance hates that shit.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: I sleep with it on.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_01: My wife hates it.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Me too.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: I fall asleep.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, what the f- And I'm peaceful.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's like, you forced me to watch this shit, and I'm over here shitting my pants.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: I fall asleep with that shit.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I love it.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well, going back to Toy Source 5, I think, because I watched it with the kids, I think it's for the adults.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a yeah, it's an animated movie.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's like an ending, right?
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: Kinda, kinda, sorta.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like the um the end of the movie makes you go, uh.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: You wanna know?
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: Or do you want to watch it first?
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I'm gonna watch it.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think I do have to.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna make it's it's gonna make you go, uh.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: It made my wife cry.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_00: See, I'm a crier too.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: Are you?
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_00: I am when it comes to movies.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what?
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: Am I a bitch?
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna say a bitch, but maybe like a pansy.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, you know what?
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: You are emotionally in tune with yourself.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_00: Watching the freaking good dinosaur.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_01: Because pop-op died.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I cried watching the crudes because I thought the dad was gonna die.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, no.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: My wife didn't cry.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: She did cry to the dinosaur once.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um Lion King cried.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I could see that.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_01: But it's emo Oh man.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm a I sometimes Do you cry to rom coms?
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, or a romantic comedy.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: See, I don't even like romantic movies, bro.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: Why not?
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, because it's a facade, it's a fade.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: I've never been into that kind of movie.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_01: You'd like Obsession.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's on Peacock.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'll make sure to watch it.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: You got that for free?
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: I do.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: Obsession.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's fun.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's not one of those horror movies, like, you know, it's not gore.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's like a thriller.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's low-key.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's low-key thrilling.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, um, yo, yeah, it's a thriller.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: Low-key gore gore.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: But um, it's more of like it makes you think like, oh shit.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: Is it like sh- have you watched Shudder Island?
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_00: Is it like that?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like a mine fuck?
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_01: Cause Shudder Island is you he thought he was on an island, but he was really in a mental institute.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not that.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: Or he thought he was a detective, right?
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and like all the players on the island, there were just, you know, the janitor.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: It was his therapist.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_01: You know, his friend.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's not, it's not.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now that you told me it's a thriller, I'll go watch it.
• 1:02:04
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_01: You'll get, it's, it's one of the those like, I'll get your he might hate me.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_00: He might hate you for telling me this too.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: Does your does your fiance, because my wife does this all the time, when something like that happens, is it like an automatic hit?
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do you get because my wife hits me when like a scary thing?
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, he doesn't, but he I feel like he's watched so much thrillers and scary movies with me.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_00: So at this point, he kind of knows when something's coming.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I just like put one eye under the cover and he's like, something's gonna happen.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, get the hell out of the blanket.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: What stemmed from you liking horror and thriller movies?
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: Genuinely don't know.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_00: But my mom said at five years old I was watching The Ring by myself, watching The Grudge by myself.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_00: Watching Chucky by myself.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: See, I don't know how I started liking horror movies too.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because um before like the English ones, I was into like the Filipino, like Filipino movies, like Shake, Rattle, and Roll.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's an old school Filipino movie.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I I grew up to watching Filipino movies, and I guess I'm accustomed to just watching ghosts, vampires, werewolves.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like in the because the Filipino, the old school Filipino movies is just, yeah, one is culture, and then two, it's like watching it now, it's like, damn, that makeup kind of sucks.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_00: Right, like all the old school scary movies, you're like, how the hell was I scared?
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so in my mind now it's just like, oh, I could see, yeah, I could handle, but the mind fucked ones, like um, I don't know if you ever heard of Rooms or whatever.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a mind fucked movie, but those the real life ones, I'm just like, oh shit.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: When these could happen when this shit could happen, I'm like, oh.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_01: I want to watch, but I'm just like, ooh.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think one of my favorite like mind fuck movies is probably um Truth or Dare.
• 1:04:01
  unknown: Truth or Dare.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you've ever seen that one.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_01: Is that the one where um I think it's called Truth or Dare?
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like they gathered like uh eight people who needed money, uh-huh, and then they brought them to a dinner, and then it ended up being like truth or dare, but you don't do the dare.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: If not, you're gonna get killed.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_01: In one of the scenes, did a girl have to crawl out of a window on like from one side to the other side on top of a ladder?
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I've seen that one.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_01: I've seen that.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's your favorite.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like one of my favorite, like what the hell?
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like that could actually happen to people.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's true.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: Cause I mean, when they were approached, it was a rich man, like trying to help their situation by throwing them money in their face, like, oh, you just come to this dinner.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then shit started happening.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_01: Just like Squid Games.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, yeah.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_00: I love Squid Games.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: Squid Games is I love Squid Games.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: I liked it.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_00: People have such like eh, feelings about it, but I love Squid Games.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_01: Miss Kayla, knowing Squid Games and how it is, do you think you're able to survive?
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: Hell no.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_01: You laugh too much, you fidget too much.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the the running one I'm gonna do.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_00: You don't work well with others.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_00: Especially the um Crocker.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think Kayla is dying.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I'm dead already.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_00: The first game.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_00: Done.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to do a Squid Games out.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know what?
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_01: A playful Squid Games out here and just be a contestant to see how far I could go.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like Mr.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: Beast.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like one of those like I'm not gonna die.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna lose that on like thousands of dollars.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: But I wish Hawaii would have shit like that.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think it'd be ghetto, dude.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: You think so?
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_01: Who'd who'd fucking go underground and get Kloa pork?
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_00: Who could somebody might start scrapping for yeah, I don't know.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's just how it is in Hawaii.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, everything and anything turns into a fight out here.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you think that's happening?
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: Or why do you think that is?
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: Culture.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_00: Culture.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, granted, I love the fact that you know a lot of people choose to throw hands over guns and knives, but it's so unnecessary sometimes.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, not everything needs to be a fight.
• 1:06:18
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I don't like going out no more.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, dude, I don't wanna be around that environment anymore.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is true.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was taught at a young age that you could hurt a man worse in his pockets than his face.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, if let's say I get assaulted, right?
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm taking every dime.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm I'm sorry for your kids, I'm sorry for you, but I am gonna I'm taking your house, I'm taking your car, I'm gonna take your dog too.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, not your dog, but no, like you hit him like where it hurts the most, and that's how that's the pockets.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I was taught that.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because people don't think money makes the world go around.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it does.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yes, it does.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen a poor, happy person yet.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's so sad though, to think about it.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's sad, but I mean it is what it is, right?
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta live in the real world.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  unknown: Oh.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: Must be nice to be a generational wealth.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_01: Nepo.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: Nepotism.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to y'all.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_00: I I it is what it is.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, God.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Kayla, that was fun.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_00: It was.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you have any questions for me before we dip out or no, not really.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: No question.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_01: No question.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm one of them motherfuckers.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Miss Kayla, where can these people find you at?
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um, do you have any shout outs or anything?
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, you guys can find me on Instagram at Janita from the block.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty sure it'll be here somewhere.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't really have any other social media besides that.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh shout out to tattoo crew.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_00: If y'all are ever out here in Oahu or in Wapahu and you want to get tattooed, come stop by.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Chris for having me.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_01: Chris is me.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, do appreciate you for coming on.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, July 26th, there's a sneaker expo at Alamon.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, I'll be there.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: Catch some of your favorite, um.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say an influencer because I'm not an influencer.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_01: Favorite content creator.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_00: Some of your influencer.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_01: I am not an influencer.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't influenced anyone yet.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_00: Influenced me to come on this show.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's like a hard time.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then we got and then shout out to Caleb Studios.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for the lovely hum.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_01: Raffi behind always, man.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for the lovely beating.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm Chris.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm Caleb.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we have this bitch.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_01: Peace.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_00: That was lit.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_00: That was so fun.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.