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Healthy Boundaries for Women: Why “No” Is a Complete Sentence with Janie Jurkovich · The FEEL Podcast: Women’s Empowerment, Emotional Wellness and Self-Leadership with Melissa Crook

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  The other thing is you need to be, and I don't know if you'll
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  have to beat this out, but you have to learn to be unfuck
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  withable. And I had to practice saying
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  that word because. I love that.
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  I had to practice saying it over and over because you have to
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  learn that you don't. You're not concerned about what
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  other people think. When I was decided to quit my
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  job in real estate to publish books, you know, I was met with,
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  well, you can't do that. That's your job.
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  And it's like, yes, I can. And and then you just go do it.
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  Or if, if you any big thing you go that you want to step out
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  like a publish a book, you can't do that.
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  Well, yes, I can. And, and you have to, you know,
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  channel beans from another dimension.
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  Well, as a matter of fact, I have and you just have to go
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  with it and go. I'm not going to worry about
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  what people say about. Hello and welcome back to The
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  Field Podcast. Happy new Year.
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  It is 2026, folks. I don't know how we got here
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  already. My head is spinning, but we are
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  here and we're going to start off the new year with one of my
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  favorite people I met in 2025. I met her through my friends at
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  the Fresno County Women's Chamber of Commerce, and she is
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  one of the most connecting, honest, generous people I've met
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  in this time. She immediately sat down with
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  coffee, shared her resources, shared who she thought I should
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  connect with, invited me to speak at one of her retreats,
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  which I had the honor of doing in the fall.
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  And it's just has such a connecting story, but also has a
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  lot of courage because she learned something about herself
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  not very many years ago and was willing to to say yes to it and
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  connect to it and invited in. And we'll get into that in the
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  conversation and, and how she arrived at this point.
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  She's written books, she has retreats.
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  She really helps women connect with their selves and their
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  spirituality and what's already in them already.
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  She just helps them tap into it, which is how our missions are so
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  aligned. We have our own ways of going
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  about it, but we're very In Sync there.
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  And she, I'm just so thankful to know her and to get to feature
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  her today. Janie Jankovic.
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  Janie Djerkovic, let me get that name right.
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  Janie Djerkovic describes herself as honest, practical,
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  funny, determined, and she perseveres.
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  Janie, welcome to the Field podcast.
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  Thank you. It's great to be here.
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  Oh. I'm so glad to have you.
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  Before we get into the talking points, you sent out a
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  newsletter just a couple of days ago.
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  It landed when we're recording this, it landed in my inbox and
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  it just hits so succinctly. So many of you listeners are
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  going to connect with this and it's at the Story behind your
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  books and, and it's titled The Story behind these books still
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  surprises me. And you say I was doing what so
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  many of us do, taking care of everyone else, holding it
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  together, going through the motions.
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  On the surface, I was a successful businesswoman, a
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  mother, a wife. But underneath it all, I felt
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  numb. I didn't have a breakdown in the
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  dramatic cinematic sense. It was slower than that, a quiet
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  unraveling that led me to question everything I thought I
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  knew. And then something shifted.
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  I began receiving messages, not in a way I expected, and not
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  anything I was seeking out. The voices weren't loud or
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  scary. They were clear, calm, loving.
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  I couldn't ignore them. I didn't want to.
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  Those messages became the words in this book trilogy, and over
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  time, those words started to feel less like mine and more
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  like something for anyone walking through the fog of a
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  life that no longer fits. Mic drop.
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  That's me putting that in. It doesn't say that in the
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  newsletter that my, my gosh, that just hit.
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  I'm like, I have to share that in the episode and it's a great
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  segue into talk to me about yourself care journey because
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  and I like how you talked about you.
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  It wasn't this big moment like I had kind of a big moment that
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  forced me to pay attention. But I think more often than not,
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  it's that slow and raveling and there's clues there, but we live
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  so disassociated that we just ignore them.
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  We push them away. We keep trudging forward until
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  we get a kind of like wake up one day.
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  I'm like, wait a minute, how did I get here?
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  This doesn't feel right. I am out of alignment and you
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  start trying to put your finger on things.
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  So talk to me about this evolution for you and what
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  you've learned in yourself care journey via this message.
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  OK, well I would say it happened due to circumstances in my
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  family life. My husband left unexpectedly
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  after a long marriage. So I was left to evaluate my
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  life and I didn't really like where it was because I had done
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  all the things that society said, like work hard, take care
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  of your family, put everybody else 1st.
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  And all that got me was more work and and I and I finally
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  said, well, I get a chance to do a do over and I want to fix
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  this. I want to fix my life.
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  And so I started basically meditating before I knew what it
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  was because I had been, I was a workaholic, so I never even sat
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  still. In fact, I used to tell my kids
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  I'll rest when I'm dead. I didn't realize how bad it is
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  to be, how dangerous it is to be sleep deprived.
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  And once I started, you know, focusing more on figuring out
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  life and being quiet, like I said, meditating before I knew
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  what it was. Then I started hearing voices
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  that gave me guidance and it was covering because it was, it was
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  new to me, the information I was getting and it, and I knew that
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  what I had been doing didn't work.
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  So it's worth a try. And it, it, it really, it led me
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  to the path of figuring out how to live my best life and writing
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  books and tapping in spiritually and, and having that whole
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  journey. And I can say that life is much
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  better now. I'm a lot more focused and I
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  realized that you know how I'm supposed to be living life and
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  it's and it's not as a constant made to everybody else or an
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  indentured servant like I sometimes felt.
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  Yeah, but it's not absolutely. I mean it.
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  I'm not saying neglect your marital responsibilities or your
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  family responsibilities, but there's nothing wrong with
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  putting you in the equation. And that's I think was something
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  that was lacking in the, in what was taught to women growing up
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  in the 50s, like me, you know, we were taught like our
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  opinions, what we want doesn't matter.
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  And so that's, that's a really big shift.
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  And I'm happy that younger women are starting to learn that
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  lesson earlier, whereas I didn't learn until my 60s, you know,
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  that there was another way and I could say no and I could live
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  life on my terms. So yeah, it's been.
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  A yeah, absolutely. Well, and I look how you need to
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  talk about you got to there in your 60s and I think it's just a
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  reminder it's it's not too late. There's no timeline.
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  And when we get in alignment with ourselves and really start
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  living as our healthiest, most from that healthy, most
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  authentic place. And so don't let that be a
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  deterrent. Stay curious.
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  Stay open to what's possible. You've learned the value.
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  Yeah. I mean, I think that's so.
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  You're such a great example of that.
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  You have learned the value of setting healthy boundaries, of
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  saying no, of having a clear idea of what it is you will and
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  won't connect with. Talk to me about that part of
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  the journey. Well, I didn't even know there
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  was such a thing as sound setting boundaries.
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  I mean, I probably heard about it on a podcast or something.
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  And I'm like, oh, that's what's wrong.
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  I'm letting people walk all over me.
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  So I realized that it was OK to say no and that that is a
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  complete sentence. And you don't have to give
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  everybody an explanation because it's none of their business.
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  And just, you know, you don't have to be mean or hurtful.
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  You can just say no, I I'm not interested in doing that.
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  I don't have time. Or just say no, I can't.
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  You can make an excuse if you want, but it it's more than and
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  you have to real value yourself and your own time and your own
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  sanity. Sure, you might be able to
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  actually fit in whatever task somebody's asking you to do, but
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  do you really want to? Does it feed yourself?
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  Does it you which is your time better spent doing something
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  else? Maybe you just need to rest and
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  not be go, go, go because then you will be nice or not crabby
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  to people or. Yeah, I mean, I really wish I
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  would have known that when my kids were little because, you
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  know, everything was so frantic and, you know, I'm sure I was
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  short tempered. The other thing about setting
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  boundaries is not just saying no to obligations that other people
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  try to put on you, but also setting boundaries for how you
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  you will allow people to treat. You.
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  Because I didn't understand before that, you know, people
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  treat you the way you let them, and if you don't stand up for
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  yourself, nobody else is going to do it and they'll just keep
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  taking advantage of you. And it might be a friend that's
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  only calls you when they need something, or a child that only
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  calls you when they want money or something like that.
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  And you have to learn that it's OK to say no and it's OK to
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  limit your contact with them. And it could be it like if you
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  have a friend that's been a really good friend for a long
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  time, but you finally the light bulb went off and you notice
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  that they are always negative, you know, and I mean other
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  people. And after a while you realize
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  that when you're around them, it makes you in a bad mood.
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  And you don't like that because you try not to be like that.
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  And if you try to gently persuade them to turn the
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  conversation to whatever could be positive in this terrible,
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  horrible situation and and they don't get the hint, after a
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  while, you can just eliminate your contact with them.
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  And then you just set basically setting a boundary.
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  I don't want to be around somebody like that and go find
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  some new friends. And if they really bug you and
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  say why don't, why can't you do it?
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  Why can't you see me, blah, blah, blah.
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  You might have to sit down and tell them whatever the reason
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  is, you're too negative. I've tried to give some input.
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  You're not listening. I don't like being around that.
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  Or if it's somebody that you feel is always taking advantage
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  of you, you just have to be honest and tell them and let let
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  the pieces fall where they may because it it's not your job to
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  please everybody and contrary to the way we were raised.
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  So it's good to set boundaries in all areas of your life.
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  Yeah, yeah, So much good there. Thank you so much for that.
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  I think it's it's one of those things that once we realize the
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  power of a no and that we don't have to over explain for days
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  after that and we can release that that thing that we all
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  learned about, you know, abandoning ourselves to to
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  please everybody else. You don't have to do that.
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  It's not necessary. We need to take care of us too.
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  Yeah, I love that. And.
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  We can learn that they'll be, I mean, like if you set your goal
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  that you're going to, you know, live with these boundaries and,
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  you know, you might fall off and let somebody in.
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  But if, you know, if you keep practicing it, you'll maintain
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  it. And the people that if it's
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  boundaries between other people, they will eventually get it that
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  you're not going to, you're not going to acquiesce to their
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  demands. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
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  Talk to me about the mental, emotional, physical, spiritual
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  health, connection and the work you've done and what you've
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  learned about that. Well, I've learned that my job
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  is me and that's and I'm supposed to focus on myself and
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  that. And that isn't in a selfish way.
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  That means that in order to be my best self, my truest self, or
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  like you say, my most authentic self, I have to take care of
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  myself. I have to get enough sleep.
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  I have to get enough movement. I need to eat right.
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  I need to have quiet time. I need to have friends.
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  I need to be in nature. I need to be out in the sun.
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  I like I like being around animals.
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  I need to have an Ave. for growth, whether it's listening
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  to books, reading books, listening to podcasts.
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  Sometimes I need to just, you know, relax and not do anything.
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  That's that one I'm still working on because it's hard.
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  But I've learned that you have to take care of yourself before
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  you can be the best version of yourself to help other people
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  because you're calmer, you're more connected to all of the
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  beings and animals and nature and all that.
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  And, and you realize how connected we are and how you
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  act, how it affects others. So I, I think I, that's the main
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  thing I learned about is as I've got to take care of myself and
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  then my, I need to do what's important to me.
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  Like for me, it's my mission of writing the books and spreading
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  the word about that. And also not, you know, don't
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  forget there's, it's not just taking care of my physical and
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  mental needs. It's it's also the camaraderie
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  or friendships. So I don't want to spend my time
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  being with someone I don't really want to be with, but if
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  it's someone that I know I need to, I really want to touch base
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  with them and see how their life is going.
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  Or maybe I need to spend some time with my partner, even just
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  watching a movie or going for a walk.
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  It doesn't have to be a big trip or anything.
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  Then I make time for those things because I'm starting to
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  realize those those are the moments that are important.
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  Life is all about getting your To Do List checked.
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  I mean, they have a thing about a joke I remember hearing about
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  when people die. Like is anybody going to
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  remember that your inbox in the days where we used to have, I
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  guess we have inboxes now, but. It's e-mail, but we used to
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  have. On our desk, an actual box with
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  papers and things. Like that, but.
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  The joke used to be, well, when you die, it's is anybody going
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  to care that your inbox was empty?
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  I mean, your kids and your parents and stuff, they're not
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  going to remember that. They're they're going to think
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  about, did you make time to go to the beach with them?
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  Did you sit down and play a game with them?
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  Did you, you know, make your dad a birthday cake or, you know,
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  they're going to remember those moments.
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  So you have to just let it go and do what you can.
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  One thing I've learned on my spiritual journey is that God or
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  whoever our higher power is does not expect us to be perfect.
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  And that was a huge thing for me because I was raised to be
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  perfect. And, and, and when I strove to
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  be a perfectionist, then of course, then I got slammed for,
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  well, you tried to mark to be a perfectionist.
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  And it's like, you know, where do you think I got that right?
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  But it's it was a such a heavy burden off of me to know that
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  God only requires that you try your best.
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  That doesn't mean Slough off. It means really try your best.
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  But if it doesn't come out, then it doesn't come out perfect.
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  That's that's OK. Yeah, and also that it's not
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  other people's job to judge me. So when you get that off your
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  shoulder and, you know all it's required is your best efforts,
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  it's like life is free. It's like, whoa, I can Twitter
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  around and go do whatever I want now because I don't have to
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  worry about this person saying something or this person and you
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  and it, and it might be a little hard and people might not
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  understand where you don't worry about other people judging you,
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  but I truly don't. I, I'm, I'm not trying to be a
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  jerk about it. I just other people are entitled
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  to their opinions, as am I, and it's not my job to make them
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  like me. Yeah, it's.
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  Not my job. My job is to be me if you don't
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  like me and I don't hold any hard feelings if somebody says,
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  you know, they don't want anything to do with.
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  I'll give some an example. So some of my books, the
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  spiritual ones that involve channeling and how we're
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  supposed to live and that sort of thing.
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  I have had super religious people being quite
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  confrontational and tell me I'm going to go to hell.
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  And then I'm a terrible person and I'm just, well, you know,
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  I'm, I'm sorry, this is what I think.
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  But I just, I, I bless them and I just stay out of their realm
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  because I don't want to upset them.
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  And it's up to them if they want to listen to the lessons or not.
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  I'm not, I'm not here to force anything down somebody's throat
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  and vice versa. I don't I'm not going to let
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  them shame me into hiding in a corner.
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  I I spend most of my life in the closet.
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  Yeah. Either either either in the when
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  I was growing up, it's more like children should be seen, not
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  heard. And you know, they don't want to
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  hear anything from you. And then when I evolved as a
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  spirit medium, I was, I had to eventually come out of the
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  spiritual closet. So you, you really, once you can
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  get over that about worrying about what other people think,
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  your life has so much freedom. And then if you have a spiritual
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  or religious background, knowing that your creator is is not
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  expecting perfection. It's it's really can be life
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  changing. Yeah, that freedom piece, man,
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  that releasing that, that is such a heavy.
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  We don't realize how heavy of a burden that is until we release
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  it and we literally physically feel lighter.
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  I literally physically feel lighter.
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  This goes so nicely into showing up for yourself unapologetically
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  and supporting other women in doing so as well.
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  You are doing that and you are there as a resource for others
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  who are ready to tap into it. And I love the way you stated
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  that earlier is like, I might not be for everyone.
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  That's OK. I'm here for those who are ready
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  and willing and want to hear my experience and what's possible.
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  And I think it's so interesting. When you have people, whatever
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  it is you believe that somebody is in conflict with and I I'm
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  like when we tap into curiosity rather than judgment, why is
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  that firing you up so much? Why are you, you know, getting
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  getting curious about that? But the, the openness and at
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  some point, as you, as, as you embarked on this, you made a
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  decision, I'm going to write these books.
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  I'm going to start hosting these retreats.
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  This to me is how you really show up unapologetically.
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  And that is you to a court like I, I, I've engaged with you in
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  person. You, you project that you have
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  that spirit about you. When did you decide it was time
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  to write the books and and start the retreats and open this up to
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  other people? Well, I would say before I
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  actually published my first books, I was given information
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  to put in one of them. And then I was told in my quiet
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  time, the voices, they told me to write the book and I did it.
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  And then they told me to write another book and I did it and
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  they told me to write another book and I did it.
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  And then I wasn't getting them published because I was still
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  working as a real estate broker. So finally I and I was worried
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  about money. And you know, like if I quit my
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  job, then how am I going to pay for everything, right?
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  I don't want to downsize. I really like my Oasis, my home
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  in the country. So I just let it go to God.
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  I said, God, look, if you, if you want me to write these
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  books, I'll write the books, but you figure out the money.
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  Yeah, Yeah. And, and I can't.
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  And it just happened that way. So I was actually told to write
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  my first books, the the ones in the Janie J series.
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  And I am having an I plan to have the 4th and last book in
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  the series come out next spring, Single woman's side to
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  Happiness. And so fingers crossed that I
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  get my stuff together. I wrote that book a long time
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  ago. I just didn't get it published,
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  but my more recent books are spiritual in nature and I either
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  wrote about my experience learning that I could channel
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  beings from another dimension, or it's the actual discourses
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  that I transcribed. So I'm, I know I'm not for
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  everybody and I just hope that I set an example so that people,
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  no, there is more to life. The first part, the Janie J
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  part, is taking control of your own life and not believing what
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  society tells you. And there's a there's a lot of
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  encouragement and tips on the Janie j.net site, but the the
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  others, the spiritual books are, are more are deeper.
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  So once you've this is the way I look at it, once you get your
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  life figured out and you realize that you're not a slave to
• 23:09
  everybody else and you can make your own decisions, then you
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  start digging deeper, like, why am I here?
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  What's the purpose of life? How should I be interacting with
• 23:18
  other people and deeper lessons. And those are the lessons that I
• 23:23
  channeled in the new IM document.
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  And I'm want people to join it, the new IM movement, so they can
• 23:36
  encapsulate and learn these lessons and act that way.
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  Because if people did, they're simple lessons like someone in
• 23:46
  fifth grade can understand it. They're simple lessons that are
• 23:51
  reminders of how we should be treating each other and how we
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  should be interacting with the environment and animals and
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  stuff. And if everybody starts doing
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  that, it will totally change the face of the world.
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  Because. It it'll be a different
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  paradigm, yeah. And and people can get
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  encouragement and find out about that at the new IM movement.com.
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  OK. So I'm hoping that I'm setting
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  an example to show how people can change and how they can
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  grow. Yeah.
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  And that's it. It's not anything I would have
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  thought of. Like I thought this kind of
• 24:32
  stuff was kind of woo woo but and actually I can say honestly
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  that I would be skeptical unless it happened to me.
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  Yeah, yeah. And I think.
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  And I think people need to know it's OK to be skeptical and it's
• 24:46
  OK you can do it too, because it's not like I'm some big whiz
• 24:49
  or something. Yeah, yeah.
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  Thank you so much for sharing that.
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  More and more people are realizing that they can connect
• 24:58
  to God or whatever they call it and, or, or beings angels.
• 25:04
  Some people have angels or fairies or all sorts of things
• 25:07
  that I never would have thought of and they're afraid to tell
• 25:12
  anybody. So I'm hoping that if I go
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  forward and kind of take the brunt of it and they'll take
• 25:18
  that will take the steam or the embarrassment away and at least
• 25:22
  people will start using because it's really helpful, really
• 25:25
  helpful in life to have it. It's it's like having a secret
• 25:30
  advisor or a Google that you can ask anything.
• 25:35
  Yeah, well, and I think it's just that openness to being like
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  there are different ways God created us all with different
• 25:42
  ways to connect with ourselves and with each other.
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  And it's so if this is a a point of access for you, being open to
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  it and being willing. And if it's not a point of
• 25:52
  access for to you, be happy and supportive of the people that it
• 25:56
  is. We all need to be connect, find
• 25:59
  our way to connect, find our purpose, find our why and and
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  what what allows us to live as our healthiest and most
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  authentic versions that we were created to be.
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  And so being open and that there's multiple ways to do
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  that. And you're providing an Ave. and
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  a safe space to have these discussions and for other, you
• 26:21
  know, people that are experiences to be like, wait a
• 26:23
  minute, that sounds like what I'm experiencing too, because
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  it's all about creating those safe spaces for all these
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  opportunities you've created an absolute Oasis at in your home.
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  I mean, it's just it's just simply settling to walk onto
• 26:37
  your property. It really is.
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  When did you decide the retreats were going to be a part of this
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  as well as the Union? Well, I started having events at
• 26:48
  my home and I made it a goal for the last two years to have one
• 26:52
  every month. And we would talk about
• 26:55
  different things. Is it like past lives or doing
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  what I call soul connections, where you talk to somebody who's
• 27:03
  passed or maybe we talk to money.
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  That's something people are always interested in.
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  And that seemed well received, but it's it's you could I can
• 27:13
  only have a small group because we have it inside.
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  But people kept asking for more. And then I had a friend that
• 27:20
  just kept. Pushing me so.
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  I I actually before I had my own retreats at my house, I had a
• 27:28
  friend that would have, I would, she would use my home to have
• 27:32
  her retreats. Oh, gotcha.
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  So I got a few dry runs, but it's anyway I, I, I finally
• 27:43
  realized that you can reach more people And so that's kind of the
• 27:46
  goal and, and let people know about it.
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  And I do feel like I've been blessed with my home to first of
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  all, be able to keep it through a divorce and be able to, you
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  know, maintain it and keep it peaceful and all that.
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  And I feel like it's a gift from God that I need to share with
• 28:07
  other people because it's, it's made, it's created for more than
• 28:11
  just one or two people to enjoy. So I, I take, I take a lot of
• 28:15
  pleasure in having people come over, especially to be outside.
• 28:20
  And I've had people come and say that the trees are talking to
• 28:23
  them and stuff. I'm like, OK, but I and I even
• 28:29
  had, I had a photo shoot outside one time and the photographer
• 28:33
  kept telling me to move certain way, like just move over an
• 28:36
  inch. And I'm like, wonder why?
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  And she finally said, I want you to come over here and look at
• 28:41
  the picture I just took. And, and there was, I think she
• 28:45
  had me put my hand up and there was a fairy on my hand.
• 28:49
  Oh wow. And I'm like, I know she didn't
• 28:52
  like Photoshop this or anything. And, and so she said they're all
• 28:57
  over your yard, that that's what she was taking all these
• 29:00
  pictures up and, and they showed up in there.
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  And I've never heard of that. But I, you know, so there's,
• 29:06
  there's something about this face that is helpful and
• 29:11
  enlightening to other people as well, because they seem to feel
• 29:15
  a sense of calm right away. Yeah, yeah.
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  It has a very calming effect on your nervous system.
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  It really does. It's very beautiful.
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  Thank you so much for sharing that Your why and your values
• 29:29
  are very connected to this work you do.
• 29:33
  Talk to me about the evolution of separating what your why and
• 29:37
  values were versus all these other expectations you had
• 29:40
  historically been living out of. Well, I figured out the other
• 29:45
  way didn't work and it wasn't certainly wasn't making me
• 29:48
  happy. I wasn't getting to travel.
• 29:51
  I wasn't getting basically to have any fun.
• 29:54
  And I and it's like, I don't, you know, I didn't want to keep
• 29:57
  working three jobs plus taking care of everything at the house.
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  So I just said there's got to be another way.
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  So once I found the other way, it was it soothed my soul a lot
• 30:13
  better. And then I realized I found out
• 30:15
  what my mission was, which my I thought it was to write my first
• 30:19
  books, but apparently it's to write the new IM document series
• 30:26
  and then to teach it to people or make it available to them.
• 30:31
  So I, I, I try to first of all take care of me, whatever my
• 30:35
  needs are, and then take care of my mission.
• 30:38
  Not not working like non-stop, not like a workaholic, but
• 30:44
  trying to work on it and be mindful of what, what things are
• 30:48
  working and which, which things I've tried are actually reaching
• 30:52
  people and changing their lives. And then I try to all this is so
• 30:59
  you can live your best life. So I want to have some time left
• 31:02
  in my day to do that. Yeah.
• 31:05
  Unapologetic about it, like I'm not going to write anymore on my
• 31:09
  book today or answer any more emails.
• 31:11
  I'm going to go outside and take a walk and I'm going to go cut
• 31:15
  the sheep or something that makes me feel good and and not
• 31:18
  feel guilty about it. Feel like be more in tune with
• 31:23
  my body about what my body needs.
• 31:27
  That's something I think people really overlook.
• 31:30
  Like a lot of what I finally figured out is I would be sick
• 31:34
  and I kept getting sick, but I wasn't listening to my body.
• 31:38
  So if my body is like if I'm staying up late doing a work,
• 31:43
  especially previously, I would start getting a sore throat.
• 31:47
  And then I'd say just a few another hour of emails.
• 31:50
  I'll just get some another work done.
• 31:52
  And the next day I'd wake up and I'd have a cold.
• 31:55
  And now I know if, if I start feeling sick, then I need to go
• 32:00
  take some preventative medicine and get some rest.
• 32:03
  If I feel super tired, I better get some rest because I, if you
• 32:08
  don't, then your body's gonna revolt.
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  And I've actually connected to my body, which I never had
• 32:15
  thought of, but a health code connected my body and asked what
• 32:19
  it wanted. And it would be screaming at me
• 32:22
  saying you need, I want more rest.
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  You working me too hard. And I was like, whoa.
• 32:26
  It was like somebody talking back to me.
• 32:29
  But but really we all can do that.
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  And, and if we're not at the stage where we can actually ask
• 32:38
  our body, we should at least be able to pick up on the clues.
• 32:41
  So I would encourage people to do that, to listen to their body
• 32:45
  because it can only serve you if if it if you let it rest and you
• 32:51
  give it the right food and stuff like that.
• 32:54
  Yeah. Just, it's not like a workhorse
• 32:57
  and you just keep beating it and beating it until it falls to the
• 33:00
  ground, right? And and that'll happen if you if
• 33:03
  you don't take care of. It absolutely, we live so
• 33:06
  disassociated from our bodies and we do exactly what you've
• 33:09
  talked about. You set such a great example. 01
• 33:11
  more thing, one more thing, one more thing and then we're like,
• 33:14
  my body's letting me letting me down.
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  I I'm sick again. I'm like your body's not letting
• 33:19
  you down. Your body's been screaming at
• 33:22
  you for days, or I was shocked. Yeah, I was shocked to learn
• 33:27
  that, you know, I do things where I channel beings from
• 33:31
  other dimensions and, and and and so forth.
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  So like, that's OK. And I and I can channel money,
• 33:40
  which is kind of an innate object.
• 33:43
  And. And explain what money thinks
• 33:46
  and how it works and stuff. But I never thought to talk to
• 33:49
  my own body. Yeah, like, like that was
• 33:53
  really. Whoa, that was interesting.
• 33:55
  Yeah, but it's helpful and I'm working on that one.
• 33:59
  Yeah, yeah. I think it's such an important
• 34:01
  lesson to learn. When I stopped living
• 34:03
  disassociated with my from my body and started actually
• 34:06
  feeling all that it was trying to tell me, it was like, oh,
• 34:09
  wow, my therapist is like, it's been doing that all along.
• 34:12
  You've just looked so connected from it.
• 34:14
  You weren't feeling it. Now you're open to it and you're
• 34:17
  feeling it and it's she's letting you know, hey, this.
• 34:20
  I need you to pay attention to me.
• 34:22
  I, I, I, you know, I'm, I'm past my service date here, you know,
• 34:27
  so I think. Well, it's kind of like most of
• 34:29
  us have felt our like if we're hungry, we have felt our stomach
• 34:33
  brow. Yes, that's pretty basic, but
• 34:36
  it's like that. But if it's happening all the
• 34:38
  time, maybe you just have to pay attention.
• 34:41
  Absolutely. You've talked throughout this
• 34:45
  conversation about, you know, you had lived out of other
• 34:49
  people's narratives and expectations and you have moved
• 34:54
  clearly into this place now where you are living out of your
• 34:58
  own expectations versus others talk.
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  Is there any else? You've talked about this a lot.
• 35:04
  Is there anything else you want to add to that of what it's like
• 35:08
  to go from doing the the first, which so many of us do.
• 35:13
  We grew up with these narratives and these societal expectations
• 35:17
  and we're told what's supposed to make us happy.
• 35:20
  And if you follow this and we never stopped to ask if it's
• 35:23
  what we actually want. And we're just told, oh, this
• 35:26
  will make me happy if I do, if I go do this and do that and
• 35:30
  follow this script. We'll describe script isn't
• 35:32
  built just it we're each unique people.
• 35:36
  There's no one script. So talk to me about what it's
• 35:39
  been like for you to live off your own script finally.
• 35:44
  Well, I think one thing everybody needs to know is we
• 35:47
  can literally do anything we want.
• 35:50
  We can happy or do anything we want that it's just a human
• 35:54
  constraints that society puts on us that we think we can't.
• 35:59
  I'll give an example. So when I was 65, well, first of
• 36:04
  all, about age 62, I started going to the gym because I was
• 36:10
  overweight and and I got in shape and then I got recruited
• 36:15
  to be in a masters level running team, which doesn't master
• 36:20
  doesn't mean you're like super good.
• 36:21
  It just means you're over 50. So I was in my 60s and is most
• 36:26
  is the team mostly with men, but there was one girl who's the one
• 36:31
  that got talked me into it. So we started running and it
• 36:35
  became a thing and we really practice a lot.
• 36:38
  And I said, well, I don't want to be, I don't want to go to any
• 36:40
  meets. And they eventually talked me
• 36:42
  into meets. Then they they said, well, you
• 36:44
  qualified for nationals so you should go to nationals.
• 36:47
  So Long story short, after many, many miles of running at age 65,
• 36:54
  I went to the National Senior Games and I placed in the top
• 36:58
  ten in two track events. Wow.
• 37:00
  Which for someone who went to PE in I think it was 7th grade,
• 37:07
  they put me in special PE because I couldn't touch my
• 37:10
  toes. So it was like a great, you
• 37:13
  know, I don't know what it was showing them that I could do it.
• 37:19
  So I really, I think I had Harvard because I had forgotten
• 37:23
  about that. I think I harbored that inside
• 37:25
  of me and of course I don't run anymore because it's all
• 37:29
  consuming and I have other things I want to get done.
• 37:33
  But it was it, it showed me, and I think it showed people that I
• 37:36
  knew that you really can do anything if you put your mind to
• 37:39
  it. Now.
• 37:40
  Of course you got to put the effort into it and the time and
• 37:43
  practice and all that, you know, I mean, it was horrible.
• 37:47
  Yeah. I mean, it was like, I, I
• 37:51
  wouldn't, I don't want to ever do it again.
• 37:52
  Put it down and and but I was proud of myself that I did it.
• 37:57
  So I proved it to myself that I could.
• 38:00
  Yeah. And I think that you need to be
• 38:05
  strong enough and willing to do the work for what you want and
• 38:09
  then and that you can't achieve anything.
• 38:11
  The other thing is you need to be, and I don't know if you'll
• 38:15
  have to beat this out, but you have to learn to be
• 38:18
  unfuckworthable. Yeah, I had to practice saying
• 38:22
  that word because. I love that.
• 38:26
  I had to practice saying it over and over because you have to
• 38:29
  learn that you don't. You're not concerned about what
• 38:32
  other people think. When I was decided to quit my
• 38:36
  job in real estate to publish books, you know, I was met with,
• 38:40
  well, you can't do that. That's your job.
• 38:42
  And it's like, yes, I can. And and then you just go do it.
• 38:47
  Or if if you any big thing you go that you want to step out
• 38:52
  like a publish a book, you can't do that.
• 38:55
  Well, yes, I can. And and you have to, you know,
• 38:59
  channel beings from another dimension.
• 39:00
  Well, as a matter of fact, I have.
• 39:03
  And you just have to go with it and go, I'm not going to worry
• 39:06
  about what people say about and and learn to do your own thing.
• 39:11
  I mean, I remember what, in my early 60s, oh, I think it was
• 39:16
  right after I was in the National Games, Super Games, my
• 39:20
  reward to myself was to go to Croatia for three weeks by
• 39:25
  myself. And I started travelling once I
• 39:29
  was single, I started travelling by myself, but more locally or
• 39:33
  even in the States. But I'd never gone overseas by
• 39:35
  myself. I'd gone overseas before, but
• 39:38
  with family or in a group or something.
• 39:40
  So I, I said, I'm going to go to Croatia for three weeks by
• 39:44
  myself and I'm going to go to these classes and I'm going to
• 39:47
  rent a place and live on the economy and stuff.
• 39:50
  And people were like, oh, you can't do that.
• 39:53
  You can't do that. That's too scary.
• 39:55
  And it's like, I used to live in Turkey, like how?
• 39:59
  And I went to the former Yugoslavia at least three times.
• 40:03
  It's not like it's not like a third world country or
• 40:07
  something, right? I'll figure it out and but but
• 40:11
  that's the kind of thing you have to just go, no, I'm going
• 40:13
  to do it. And, and you won't always get
• 40:16
  where you want the first time. And so the naysayers are going
• 40:19
  to put you down and they're going to that's going to be
• 40:21
  fodder for them to prove their way.
• 40:23
  But just don't listen. Just keep doing it.
• 40:26
  Because what I found is the people that complain the most
• 40:29
  about what you're doing when you step out of what's normal, they
• 40:32
  are the ones that are sitting back on the sidelines judging
• 40:36
  and they're never doing anything.
• 40:38
  They're not growing, they're not improving.
• 40:40
  They're just saying, Oh well, look at them and look at them
• 40:42
  and they shouldn't be doing that.
• 40:43
  That's dangerous. And it's like, but you know,
• 40:46
  when I leave this earth, I want to be like all used up.
• 40:50
  I've done everything I could to live my life to the fullest.
• 40:55
  I mean, I don't want to be like looking all perfect and pristine
• 41:00
  and everything, but, you know, I never left town.
• 41:03
  I never went to a concert, I never traveled.
• 41:05
  I never, you know, like what's like, what's the point of taking
• 41:10
  up space if that's how you're going to?
• 41:12
  Live, it's like. So I I would encourage people to
• 41:15
  not be afraid, go out and live their best life.
• 41:18
  Part of it will be introspective, figuring out what
• 41:20
  it is and how you want to live, because you get to write the
• 41:23
  script. You might not get to write the
• 41:26
  beginning of the story, but you can write the end.
• 41:29
  Yeah, so good. Janie.
• 41:31
  Thank you so much for all of that.
• 41:33
  That was fantastic. Talk to me about embracing your
• 41:38
  layers, all the pieces and parts of your story that make up who
• 41:41
  you are. When I work with women and
• 41:43
  you've heard me talk about this, I talk a lot about the ability
• 41:48
  to to in order to really connect with who you are in order to
• 41:51
  really embrace your value that you are valuable because you are
• 41:55
  worthy because you or have value simply because you exist,
• 42:01
  because you were born not based off of what you do or your
• 42:04
  titles. And you get to choose.
• 42:07
  And I think we miss out on that. You get to choose peace, which
• 42:10
  you talked about so beautifully. But talk to me about what you're
• 42:15
  embracing layers journey has been like.
• 42:18
  And with that impact you live out feel so succinctly that
• 42:23
  finding empowerment, embracing layers, peace also the impact
• 42:27
  it's had on your relationship with yourself as well as your
• 42:30
  relationship with other people. Well, I think it all starts with
• 42:35
  you, and you need to learn to love yourself the way you are.
• 42:39
  Like, there's certain things about me that people would
• 42:43
  criticize and I and I learned to either accept them or look at
• 42:49
  them like GIFs, like people would say to me, oh, you're so
• 42:54
  gullible, you're too trusting. And and then I think, yeah, I
• 42:59
  am, but I try not to prejudge anybody.
• 43:02
  And then, you know, I can always change my mind later.
• 43:05
  But I finally, one day I looked at that and I said, well, if I
• 43:09
  wasn't so naive and trusting, do you think I would have been able
• 43:13
  to channel these messages? No, it's only because I'm like,
• 43:18
  well, what is it? Tell me what it is you want to
• 43:20
  say and then I'll write it down and see if it makes any sense.
• 43:23
  But so it ended up for me, it ended up being a good thing.
• 43:27
  And so I think that when we learn to love ourselves, no
• 43:31
  matter how we are, it helps to shape us and our journey.
• 43:35
  So I think that's really important.
• 43:38
  And there's, I've learned that there are many layers and
• 43:41
  there's more to a person than just their job or their title,
• 43:44
  whether it's mom or wife or worker, there's, there's more to
• 43:49
  people. And so when I realized that
• 43:52
  about myself, then I can give that same grace to someone else.
• 43:57
  So I don't know if you, I, I've observed this.
• 44:01
  So some people will call like some sort of repairman or
• 44:05
  something and they'll call and they'll be mad when they don't
• 44:08
  answer the phone and they'll be mad when they don't call them
• 44:10
  back the next day and say they're trying to get something
• 44:13
  fixed. Well, they'll be all irate.
• 44:16
  Well, they didn't call back. They should be more
• 44:17
  professional. Well, did you think that like
• 44:20
  maybe something happened? Like maybe they're
• 44:23
  self-employed. They don't have a secretary or
• 44:25
  their secretary's out sick or maybe they're on a big job and
• 44:28
  they came home late and they couldn't return the call.
• 44:31
  You know, they give the people you're trying to contact some
• 44:35
  grace that maybe they have other things going on in their life.
• 44:39
  And so like if I contact somebody and they don't contact
• 44:44
  me right away, I wait a little bit of time.
• 44:47
  I don't expect them to call me back in 5 minutes.
• 44:50
  And then when somebody sends an e-mail, I don't expect it to be
• 44:55
  happen in 5 minutes. It's like realize that the other
• 45:00
  people have different layers to them, like they've got they've
• 45:04
  got their family, they maybe they're taking care of parents,
• 45:07
  maybe their kids sick and and they have, maybe they have money
• 45:11
  worries and there's different layers.
• 45:14
  So I think the first thing is you need to realize that you're
• 45:17
  multi dimensional. There's more to you than just
• 45:21
  the just the Janie J that you meet at a networking event.
• 45:25
  Yeah, and and there's and it's the same for other people.
• 45:28
  So you see it in yourself and then you start seeing it in
• 45:30
  others. But we do have a lot of layers
• 45:33
  and sometimes it's it's a balance.
• 45:37
  Some people use that term work life balance.
• 45:40
  I don't particularly like that. I think it's more like work,
• 45:43
  like harmony. It's more of not just work in
• 45:49
  life. There's the other stuff, all,
• 45:51
  all the other layers. And it's the harmony of all that
• 45:55
  you know, your spiritual being, your physical being, and the the
• 46:01
  different roles that you play and your contributions.
• 46:03
  So yeah. All needs to be in harmony, not
• 46:07
  and, and realizing that really helps.
• 46:10
  I love that harmony utilization. I think that's such a more at
• 46:15
  all-encompassing word than balance.
• 46:18
  It makes space for all of it. That's so good and I and I agree
• 46:22
  with you so much. When you are able to connect
• 46:25
  with yourself, know your own value, show yourself compassion,
• 46:29
  show yourself empathy, it opens you up to be able to, to show
• 46:34
  that for others as well. We are, you know, and, but I
• 46:38
  really believe you've got to do the work on you first because
• 46:42
  you were talking about earlier, you know, 10.
• 46:44
  It tends to be in life, people that are critical or judgmental
• 46:50
  are people that are comfortable in their life, but they're not
• 46:54
  curious about what's possible. And they've decided to settle
• 46:59
  for the comfort minus the curiosity and which doesn't
• 47:04
  allow for more expansion, more growth, more openness.
• 47:09
  And so when you're able to extend that to yourself, it
• 47:13
  opens it up to others and there's a lot of freedom in
• 47:15
  that. And then you're you're showing
• 47:17
  yourself when you're open to that, you're open to so many
• 47:20
  more possibilities, and you're also inviting other people into
• 47:24
  that. So you create more harmonious
• 47:26
  relationships because of that connection too.
• 47:31
  That curiosity is is really essential.
• 47:35
  It's essential to a person's growth and and I used to ask a
• 47:40
  lot of questions when I was little act in one of my books I
• 47:44
  put in there my my aunt used to babysit me and she and so I kept
• 47:49
  every time I'd ask her all these questions, she'll she'd just say
• 47:52
  because. And then I'd ask another
• 47:54
  question, she'd say because. And finally one day I went and
• 47:57
  asked my mom, mom, what's it? Because, and I understand I was
• 48:03
  probably getting on my aunt's nerves, but I think the
• 48:05
  curiosity is important because if you, for instance, take
• 48:10
  travel, if you aren't curious about why other people look at
• 48:15
  world differently, maybe you need to go there and visit.
• 48:18
  Maybe you need to experience their culture, their food, their
• 48:21
  religions, or learn about it. And that opens up a whole bunch.
• 48:25
  But most people are just content to stay in their comfort zone
• 48:30
  and do the same thing over and over.
• 48:33
  And well, it's good enough. It's good enough.
• 48:34
  We'll just stay like this. It's safe.
• 48:37
  And I get that. And I've actually asked the
• 48:40
  universe, I've asked about people like that, like what can
• 48:45
  I or like a certain person to help them get out of that and
• 48:48
  see that there's more. And I got a very interesting
• 48:52
  answer. So the answer is that some
• 48:56
  people are here to show the difference, the end of the game,
• 48:59
  the difference between staying in your comfort zone and not
• 49:03
  expanding, not growing, just existing versus somebody that
• 49:08
  grows. And it's and and we do need to
• 49:10
  see that the two different ways so that people that haven't
• 49:15
  decided which way they're going to go have an example to follow.
• 49:19
  And I never thought of that. And and they also said that
• 49:22
  who's to say they're not happy? That right, you're happy isn't
• 49:26
  going to necessarily make them happy.
• 49:29
  Sure. Yeah, all of that.
• 49:31
  I was just like, well, how could anybody be happy in that
• 49:33
  situation? Like that really sucks, but it's
• 49:37
  not for us to judge so. It's not.
• 49:40
  Well, my job. Yeah, really good point there.
• 49:42
  Thank you so much for sharing that.
• 49:44
  That's a really good a different way of looking at it that I
• 49:47
  think it's important. And again, remembering we are
• 49:49
  responsible for ourselves. We are not responsible for
• 49:53
  others. We can share what we know and,
• 49:56
  and, and be excited about it and hope to invite and try to invite
• 50:00
  other people along. And also it's their decision to
• 50:03
  decide whether to do that or not.
• 50:05
  And it's not our job to keep banging our head against the
• 50:07
  wall to try to get them to do something that they're not
• 50:10
  feeling in alignment with. They're not, they're
• 50:15
  comfortable, whatever the reason is.
• 50:17
  And so being able to release that too.
• 50:18
  I think if there's a lot of freedom in that, like I'm going
• 50:21
  to share, I'm going to open, I'm going to invite people in.
• 50:23
  And I'm also not going to try to force anything on people that
• 50:27
  aren't wanting to go down this road with me.
• 50:30
  I think there's it's there's that that is.
• 50:33
  The other thing is sometimes people might get ready later and
• 50:38
  they just have to be close to a new way of thinking over and
• 50:41
  over and over. And, and you might not be the
• 50:44
  one that makes that they make that decision to change, but you
• 50:49
  might have been one of the pebbles.
• 50:50
  And then finally they said, oh, well, maybe there is another
• 50:54
  way. Yeah.
• 50:55
  And if they don't get it, then that's on.
• 50:57
  That's that's their choice. So and and and just be OK with
• 51:01
  it. Yeah, Oh, so good.
• 51:04
  All right, as we wind down here, share with me 5 activities that
• 51:09
  nourish you. First of all, the quiet time
• 51:14
  with by alone. I like to be outside, I like to
• 51:18
  go play with my animals and I like to spend time with my
• 51:23
  boyfriend or my family or maybe even good friends.
• 51:28
  It it calms me down and keeps me centered.
• 51:31
  And then I'd say the last thing is travel is that just does
• 51:35
  something. And even though when I go
• 51:37
  traveling, I usually come home exhausted and, and have, you
• 51:41
  know, way too much work to do, but it is it's really great to
• 51:47
  see different parts of the world and be exposed to how other
• 51:50
  cultures live. It gives you a much greater
• 51:53
  understanding of the world we're in and interacting with others
• 51:57
  and that there's no such thing as the right way to do life as
• 52:02
  people that in people that live in third world countries that we
• 52:08
  think don't have much. And what would they have to be
• 52:10
  happy about? I've observed that some of those
• 52:13
  people are the happiest. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:17
  They're it's, it's pretty important to have that awareness
• 52:21
  of it's not just my way or the highway.
• 52:24
  It's like there's many ways. Yeah, yeah, many ways to exist
• 52:30
  in the world, many different things were called to the
• 52:33
  simplicity of being to able to connect with you and know which
• 52:37
  know what you need. And, and it, it doesn't always.
• 52:39
  And I think, you know, being aware of that travel is such a
• 52:43
  great educator. I think it just makes us it, it
• 52:46
  makes us more open and curious and teaches us so much about the
• 52:52
  different ways to exist and connect with each other and with
• 52:56
  the world. I, I think it's one of the most
• 52:57
  important things if you have, if you have the ability to do it, I
• 53:01
  think it's just one of the great learning opportunities that we
• 53:05
  have. Well, if it's a goal for
• 53:08
  someone, they can find a way because I travelled a lot, even
• 53:12
  when I was broke and we did things like use air miles, use
• 53:17
  people's time shares, get special deals.
• 53:22
  There's all, there's all sorts of ways you can, you can do it
• 53:25
  if you and, and then you can always do the manifesting thing.
• 53:29
  Like when I went to Croatia, I thought I had knew how much it
• 53:34
  was going to cost. And then when I got accepted to
• 53:37
  the school, the classes, they then they told me what the
• 53:41
  registration was and all that. And it was like, oh, it was
• 53:44
  going to cost more than what I thought.
• 53:45
  And I didn't have the money. And then people were like, well,
• 53:49
  you aren't going to go, are you? And I go, yeah, I'm going to go.
• 53:52
  I just need to wait until I figure out the money part.
• 53:55
  And then I got a Costco rebate check and it was.
• 54:00
  And so it's like. The universe will send it to you
• 54:03
  if you really want. So there are ways, there are
• 54:06
  ways to travel. And so people shouldn't let that
• 54:11
  stop them. I mean, literally, if you want
• 54:14
  to travel like even just like a, a, a trip somewhere in your own
• 54:18
  state, you can do something like pack your lunch every day and
• 54:24
  instead of spending money eating out.
• 54:27
  And then you could save that money.
• 54:28
  And before you know it, you have $100 a month and then you have
• 54:32
  1200 a year and then you know, then you can go somewhere.
• 54:35
  So there are ways. It's just whether or not it's
• 54:37
  important enough to you. And I think it's worth it.
• 54:40
  Yeah. Thank you for that.
• 54:41
  That was such good insight on that.
• 54:44
  All right, 5 words on how you want to feel the next six
• 54:47
  months. I want to feel healthy and
• 54:53
  rested and calm and happy and I don't know what the word would
• 55:02
  be like. Fulfilled.
• 55:06
  And myself, yeah. I love that.
• 55:08
  All right, Jeannie, share with people where they can find you,
• 55:12
  follow you. This will also be on our website
• 55:15
  at embracinglayers.com on the resources page, but share with
• 55:19
  our listeners real quick. OK, I have a website for the
• 55:24
  Janie J books. It's Janie j.net.
• 55:29
  So there's videos and blogs and you can sign up for newsletter
• 55:32
  and that that kind of thing. And then I have a website for
• 55:37
  the spiritual stuff and it's www.thenewimmovement.com and
• 55:43
  it's the same thing. There's videos and blogs and you
• 55:47
  can sign up. You can even learn just you can
• 55:50
  sign up and find out how I learned to connect to the all
• 55:55
  that is beings or what God, whatever you want to call it.
• 56:00
  And I also have AI have a couple of YouTube channels, but Janie J
• 56:04
  has a YouTube channel. And then I have a JDJ soul
• 56:07
  connector which has interesting videos about soul connections
• 56:13
  I've done to famous people that have passed on and a lot of
• 56:16
  lessons that are in the IM the new I am document.
• 56:20
  So those are great resources. I also am on Instagram and
• 56:24
  LinkedIn and Facebook. OK.
• 56:27
  All right. We'll have all that on our
• 56:29
  website on a resources page. I'll let any last thought that
• 56:33
  you would like to leave with our listeners today.
• 56:36
  I would, I would encourage everyone to to, to understand
• 56:41
  that it's never too late to live your best life.
• 56:44
  And it doesn't matter if you don't figure it out until you're
• 56:46
  in your 60s. It's never too late.
• 56:49
  Yeah, Oh, so good. All right, listeners, that's how
• 56:52
  we're going to wrap this up. It's never too late to live your
• 56:55
  best life. Stay curious.
• 56:58
  Thanks so much for being with us today.
• 57:00
  Thanks so much, Janie, for joining me.
• 57:01
  I really appreciate it. Thank you.
• 57:04
  I've had a great time. Thanks.
• 57:06
  Great. You bet All right, take care
• 57:08
  listeners, and we'll see you next time here on the Field
• 57:11
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• 57:14
  being with us today on this episode of the Field podcast.
• 57:19
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• 57:23
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• 57:27
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• 57:42
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• 57:48
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