Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Building Unforgettable Businesses: Sales, Sweaty Startups & More
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- 0:01Hello and welcome, my name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 0:05I solve sales and marketing challenges and I'm making
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- 0:11But yes, I'm outside, so expect to hear some interruptions in
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- 0:32And if you'd love to connect with me, then call SMS or
- 0:35WhatsApp me on 08064662140. Now today on the podcast, I
- 0:43would like to continue this conversation on Purple cows.
- 0:47Yes, we're going to get some more thought on Purple Cows.
- 0:51Now, for those of you who are wondering, purple cows, what is
- 0:54a purple cow? This is a business podcast.
- 0:56Why are we talking about cows? And if that's the case, then I
- 1:00mean, she didn't listen to the prior episode.
- 1:03Now, when we say purple cows, we're talking about ideas that
- 1:07have been expressed by a business author.
- 1:09His name is Seth Godin. That is Seth.
- 1:13And then Godin. GODIN and he has lots of
- 1:18interesting ideas about building extraordinary businesses,
- 1:23businesses or business ideas or business products that you build
- 1:27the marketing into the product itself so that you, the business
- 1:32owner, you have no need to promote, no need to advertise,
- 1:37no need to sell. The thing itself that you are
- 1:41building will just continue to sell itself and promote itself
- 1:45because The thing is an extraordinary product.
- 1:50It's an extraordinary service. It's an extraordinary business.
- 1:54So those are the ideas behind Seth Gordon.
- 1:57And the reason why he came up with the idea of purple cows was
- 1:59because if you're walking by a field and you see cows, you
- 2:04know, normal, normal, you see them white and black, maybe
- 2:08brown. But the moment you see a purple
- 2:10cow, you will stop. You will notice and you will
- 2:13talk to other people about it. So the purple cow is just a
- 2:17metaphor. If you'd like to know some more
- 2:18about the idea, especially ideas as expressed in the book, then
- 2:22when you're done listening to this episode, go listen to the
- 2:25prior episode that was recorded just before this one.
- 2:27And you get caught up to speed. But based on the feedback I've
- 2:33gotten from the episode, you know, a comment on the episode,
- 2:36people sending me messages, I figure, let me just come online,
- 2:41you know, one more time and just say a few more thoughts.
- 2:46Now, there's one thing I didn't do in the previous episode,
- 2:50which was to give examples of businesses that Seth Gordon
- 2:55regards as purple cows because he he spoke about a lot.
- 3:00And to be honest, one of the reasons why I stay away from
- 3:03those sorts of businesses is because they're not entirely
- 3:06relatable to the Nigerian experience.
- 3:09And if you've been listening to this podcast for any length of
- 3:11time, you know that I made it my mission to only talk about these
- 3:14ideas to the extent that the average Nigerian person can
- 3:18relate. Because the reason why a lot of
- 3:21you have found this podcast and love this podcast and continue
- 3:25to listen and continue to comment and continue to share is
- 3:28precisely because I'm talking about things in Nigerian
- 3:30context. Because other podcasts with a
- 3:35Nigerian podcast trying to talk about business or American
- 3:37podcasts trying to talk about business, you know, everybody's
- 3:40in love with Fang and basically North American businesses and
- 3:50things like that. Oh, by the way, Fang is
- 3:52Facebook, Amazon, what again? Facebook, Amazon, the end is for
- 3:56what now? I can't remember.
- 3:58Is it Fang or something, any Facebook, Amazon, Google and
- 4:03something I can't remember, you know, those those sorts of
- 4:05businesses and you know, that's beyond the Nigerian experience
- 4:10for now. But of course, you know, people
- 4:12want us to head there. So we're heading there.
- 4:14So, you know, with calorie wise and with money point and OPI and
- 4:20you know, things like that, you know, and junior and conga, you
- 4:25know, people are trying to, you know, get us into that big boy
- 4:29space, you know, that big girl space in quote, where we build
- 4:33companies with, you know, billion dollar valuations and,
- 4:37you know, international behemoths.
- 4:39So yes, we we are heading there, but we're not quite there yet.
- 4:43So that's the reason why I didn't give example of purple
- 4:45cows. I didn't talk about some example
- 4:48of purple cows that Seth Godin gave in his book.
- 4:51But anyway, I want to talk about examples that Seth Godin gave of
- 4:56purple cows and then use it to illustrate the point that I was
- 4:59trying to make in the previous episode.
- 5:00I'm thinking maybe if I talk about some of those companies
- 5:05using a very, very concrete case study, some of you understand
- 5:09where I'm heading now in South Gordon's book, the bubble counts
- 5:13that he gave, example he gave was Apple.
- 5:17And that's the reason why whenever I'm talking about this
- 5:20whole thing of somebody says aren't a portal, I can sell
- 5:22itself. I hope you guys see the reason
- 5:24why I'm always picking on Apple is precisely because everybody,
- 5:28when they say build a company or build a product that sells
- 5:31itself, they will say Apple. And I want to bash this idea
- 5:35into its call. I want to kill this idea that
- 5:38Apple is a company or Apple released a product that sold
- 5:44itself. But anyway, Seth Gordon says
- 5:46Apple is an example of a purple cow because they build an
- 5:51innovative product and what they were selling is lifestyle.
- 5:56Of course, for those of you who have listened to previous
- 5:59episodes where I spoke about Apple, you remember that I've
- 6:02said that Apple was not built on the back of an individual
- 6:05product. The product already existed.
- 6:08The product was built by Nokia. Sorry, it wasn't Nokia.
- 6:14I can't remember. Anyway, I'm not saying that the
- 6:16product had already existed. It had been built by several
- 6:20people before. Some people did not think it was
- 6:25right before market, it was ahead of its time or, you know,
- 6:29all kinds of things. But the challenge was not that
- 6:34the product didn't exist. The challenge was we need to
- 6:36find a way to market the product.
- 6:40And you already hear about the way that I'm talking about these
- 6:44things. You can see now that there's
- 6:45concerted human effort that is going into moving this thing
- 6:49into the market. The product already existed.
- 6:52It didn't sell itself. A missionary and evangelist, a
- 6:59prophet had to introduce this thing into the market, which is
- 7:04the role that our boy, what's his name again?
- 7:09The guy behind Apple. OK, can't believe I've forgotten
- 7:12his name. And you know, these things
- 7:14happen. So that is the role that he had
- 7:17to assume. So somebody had to introduce
- 7:21this thing to the public with a certain degree of showmanship.
- 7:28And Steve Jobs ahead, that's his name, Steve Jobs.
- 7:30We all know Steve Jobs was a very good guy when it comes to
- 7:35showmanship. That's the reason why I said
- 7:38that. It is showmanship that sold the
- 7:41iPhone. Showmanship, merchandising,
- 7:45advertising, branding, That is what sold the iPhone.
- 7:51The iPhone did not sell itself. Hope you guys are listening.
- 8:00I don't know why this myth persists that there is a product
- 8:03that will sell itself. The product already existed.
- 8:08The people who had it before did not know how to sell it.
- 8:14A master salesman came on board and his name was Steve Jobs.
- 8:21And Steve Jobs had incredible showmanship and got on stage and
- 8:27did the lights and did the sounds and did the branding, the
- 8:31advertising, the merchandising, the everything dramatically.
- 8:36He stood on stage, he held a thing in his hands and he said,
- 8:40imagine 1000 songs in your pocket.
- 8:47Is it the iPhone that is selling itself or is it a human being
- 8:50that is standing on stage doing all these dramatics?
- 8:54But anyway, those of you who want to be deceived, that is a
- 8:58product that will sell itself continue.
- 9:02And that's the reason why I get on these rants, because some of
- 9:06you believe that there's a magic product that will sell itself
- 9:10and you get locked into this idea and you start pursuing
- 9:13perfection. But for how long?
- 9:20I'm in the kitchen, I'm cooking up something, I'm working on it.
- 9:24It's in development. It will drop soon launching.
- 9:28So, so, so and so I'm planning and planning and planning and
- 9:31planning and planning on this perfect product.
- 9:36Meanwhile, there's another way. Anyway, it's too early in the
- 9:39podcast episode to rent. So Seth Gordon says Apple is an
- 9:44example of a purple cow because they built an innovative product
- 9:49and they were selling lifestyle. Yes, Apple was selling
- 9:53lifestyle, that one is correct, but you can only hear from the
- 9:56language. They were selling lifestyle.
- 10:00The iPhone was not selling itself.
- 10:04Then he gave another example of Starbucks because Starbucks
- 10:09revolution revolutionized the coffee shop experience.
- 10:13You know, you have coffee, yes, but you're having coffee, you
- 10:16know, in the nice, nice environment, you know, nice
- 10:20music, you know, polite barristers, you know, things
- 10:22like that. Then he gave another example of
- 10:25JetBlue, the American airline. And for them they were, you
- 10:33know, they came up with their in flight entertainment, you know,
- 10:35so all these things that you're flying from Niger to UK and then
- 10:39you watch the latest movie because there are TV screens at
- 10:42the back of the chair, you know. So according to Seth Godin and a
- 10:46couple of people is JetBlue that came up with all that.
- 10:49Then another example that he gave was a Dyson.
- 10:52Dyson They have they build vacuum cleaners, you know,
- 10:55things like that. And for Dyson is about superior
- 10:58design. Let me not lie because my
- 11:01brother, he's still in he lives in the UK with his family.
- 11:03They have two Dyson vacuum cleaners.
- 11:06And I would like those things are science.
- 11:08I mean, they look science fiction as as in correct design.
- 11:13I would like, I like to buy one too.
- 11:17And then he also mentioned Google as an example of a purple
- 11:21cow because, you know, they have clean interface and then stuff
- 11:25like that. And you know, on and on and on.
- 11:27Plenty companies. But you already see why I don't
- 11:30like to engage with some of these companies because for the
- 11:32average Nigerian, Apple, Starbucks, JetBlue, Dyson,
- 11:36Google, to be honest, I probably have lost like half of the
- 11:39audience here because they're like, you know, Dyson.
- 11:43How many Nigerians know of a Dyson?
- 11:45Yes, we all use Google, but you know JetBlue.
- 11:50Anyway, S Gordon's thesis is very simple.
- 11:56He tries to emphasize having a remarkable product over
- 11:59traditional marketing. So far, there's S Gordon.
- 12:03The point is, have a remarkable product.
- 12:06Don't worry too much about traditional marketing.
- 12:09I'm not one person who pits these ideas against themselves.
- 12:13I believe you need both have a remarkable product and then pay
- 12:16attention to traditional marketing is not one or the
- 12:19other. All I'm just trying to say is
- 12:21that this whole thing of I will create a remarkable product and
- 12:25the product will do all the rest is absolute in my own opinion.
- 12:28Upload BS. However, let us realise one
- 12:34thing. The whole thing about the purple
- 12:36cow is we'll create a product, a remarkable product, and it's
- 12:40going to generate interest. But my idea is this interest
- 12:45alone does not guarantee revenue.
- 12:49Let me repeat, interests that people are interested is not
- 12:53going to guarantee revenue. You still have to come up with
- 12:59some sort of mechanisms that will convert interest into sales
- 13:04or revenue. So for Google and Netflix, those
- 13:13are some of the companies that he pointed out as purple cows.
- 13:17What they did was they came, they were using a formula that
- 13:22our tech brothers and sisters called PLG Product LED growth.
- 13:28That means you create a remarkable product, something
- 13:33with a wonderful UX. That's a user experience, but
- 13:39then you're on boarding, has to be on point.
- 13:43The website has to be the website.
- 13:46Do whatever it is that you do. It has to be wonderful so that
- 13:53people can be automatically on boarded and then you get
- 13:58millions of people using it. That's called the freemium
- 14:01business model. And then you're not able to make
- 14:05some money because you're able to get some people to convert to
- 14:10pay a premium, something on the premium package.
- 14:14So in the beginning, remember Netflix was at some point next,
- 14:20I can't remember in the UK by Niger, at some point, you know,
- 14:23Netflix was, was free. We all downloaded and we're all
- 14:26watching. It was free.
- 14:28And then small by small, they started introducing small, small
- 14:31payments. But anyway, let me not go into
- 14:35the weeds, but bottom line, what I'm just trying to say is this.
- 14:37So Google and Netflix is not saying the whole thing sold
- 14:39itself. Yes, we needed something with a
- 14:44superior design and all that, and we have to come up with
- 14:48something that has wonderful user experience.
- 14:52But the whole thing is, at the end of the day, what they
- 14:56employed was a freemium business model.
- 14:58And that was what, sorry, how do I put it?
- 15:02Now they use their premium business model.
- 15:04We're able to get enough people on board and then after that
- 15:07we're able to generate sales by increasing, by working on their
- 15:15conversions. Then just put it that way,
- 15:16eventually I'll start getting people to pay money, excuse me.
- 15:20And that's what leads to a profitable company at the end of
- 15:22the day. Then Apple and Starbucks, for
- 15:28them, the reason why we're able to be successful is because they
- 15:31had physical retail presence. I mean physical stores, but you
- 15:37had to do lots of merchandising to make these things stand out.
- 15:41And then you also needed well trained order takers, you know,
- 15:46your servers in Starbucks, the person standing behind the
- 15:48counter. And then for Apple, I think they
- 15:51used to call them Apple Geniuses.
- 15:53I'm not sure what they're called now.
- 15:54You know, the people who stand behind the counter and who can
- 15:58answer all your questions when it comes to Apple and iPad and
- 16:02MacBook and or what not. Because let's face it, the
- 16:06MacBook does not explain itself. The iPad does not explain
- 16:08itself. You still need a human being to
- 16:10be able to explain these sorts of things.
- 16:12So deliberate thought was given about how you are going to
- 16:15design the store, how you're going to merchandise and the
- 16:19store, how you're going to train the people there who are order
- 16:22takers, what you're going to call them.
- 16:25So you don't call them sales boys or sales girl, you call
- 16:28them barista. You don't call them sales boy or
- 16:32sales girl, you call them Apple Genius.
- 16:35I now train them to look the part.
- 16:38You train them to sound the part because they didn't just hire
- 16:41anybody and put no shops. But I'm hoping that you guys are
- 16:44going to see that there's more to this than just create a
- 16:48remarkable product. How are we going to design the
- 16:53sales funnel? What are the conversion points?
- 16:57When are we going to try and convert?
- 17:00What strategies are we going to try and use to convert?
- 17:03That is when you start talking on the level of Google and
- 17:05Netflix. Then when it comes to the level
- 17:07of Apple and Starbucks, this product that we have designed,
- 17:11how we merchandise it, how will we put it in the right light,
- 17:14How will we put it in the right environment?
- 17:16Where are we going to place our stores?
- 17:18That is also very important because if you notice, they
- 17:21didn't create the first set of stores and they didn't come and
- 17:24put them all in in in Oshodi in Nigeria.
- 17:29Where did they put them in Choice real estate in America.
- 17:35They're taking advantage of branding, taking advantage of
- 17:37positioning, taking advantage of merchandising.
- 17:41Then when people walk into the store, we need to have human
- 17:44beings to introduce them to the product.
- 17:48Once you now put human beings in the mix and you put them in the
- 17:51store, what do you call these people?
- 17:53In Nigeria? We call them sales boy, sales
- 17:56girl. In America in in the case of
- 18:01Apple, you say no, no, no, we can't call them sales boy and
- 18:04sales girl. We'll call them Apple genius.
- 18:09But is the role not the same? Is somebody not doing the
- 18:13selling anyway? See, The thing is, if we pick
- 18:18any of these companies, Starbucks, JetBlue, Dyson, you
- 18:22know, we can go on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
- 18:24But well, at the end of the day, I'm entitled to my own opinion
- 18:28and I guess I can force you guys to come over to my own side.
- 18:32All I'm just saying is that please do not be deceived that
- 18:36there's a perfect product that sells itself or else you end up
- 18:39like most people who spend all their time designing, designing,
- 18:42designing and nothing gets done because they expect the products
- 18:46to do the thing. What?
- 18:49You are the one that has to do the thing.
- 18:51You are the one that has to introduce your product to your
- 18:53service, to the market. In fact, since everybody starts
- 18:57talking, keeps talking about Steve Jobs, let me rest my case
- 19:00on Steve Jobs. Yes, go ahead, design the best
- 19:02product in the world, but be ready to stand on stage.
- 19:06Make no mistake, Steve Job, he Chief Jobs, he stood on stage
- 19:12with the glasses and the turtleneck sweater and within
- 19:17the jeans and the Nike shoes and you know, him looking all casual
- 19:23and relatable and everything that was a well orchestrated,
- 19:26thought out, what's the word performance?
- 19:34It was a performance. So build your remarkable
- 19:37product. All I'm telling you is that get
- 19:39ready, stand on stage and perform.
- 19:45You have to do something. Just pick the one that you're
- 19:48willing to do. Anyway, let me introduce you
- 19:55guys to a different way of looking at things.
- 19:57There's this guy, he's on Twitter.
- 20:00His name is Nick Cuba. He also has a podcast.
- 20:03His podcast is called Sweaty Stand Up.
- 20:06Now, like me, Nick Cuba also doesn't like hearing all these
- 20:10BS that people talk about. And this is Nick Cuba's point of
- 20:13view. There's one New Cuba thinks,
- 20:16excuse me, New Cuba says that there are too many.
- 20:19By the way, he's American. He says that there are too many
- 20:22American boys and American girls that are looking at all these
- 20:26things and thinking that they must build revolutionary
- 20:28product. Revolutionary idea.
- 20:31He says it works, but the problem is it's a game that not
- 20:35too many people can win. And it involves raising lots of
- 20:39venture capital. You need to go and collect money
- 20:41from lots of people and even at that is not a guarantee.
- 20:44So Nick Cuba's podcast is called Sweaty Startup.
- 20:47And his his philosophy is this, that there are other kinds of
- 20:50businesses that are not as sexy. They're not sexy at all.
- 20:56And the people who are running these businesses are less than
- 20:59average. So those of you who have more
- 21:03than average common sense, if you enter that business, you're
- 21:05already determined to succeed. The example that he gives us,
- 21:09his own business, new Cuba's business is in the storage
- 21:15space. Storage space.
- 21:18So he will go and rent a building or buy a building.
- 21:22When you want to park house or when you want to going through
- 21:26life changes or something and you need a space to go and store
- 21:29your things, you will go and give him money and you will
- 21:32store your things there. That is all.
- 21:34His business is storage. That is all.
- 21:38My guy I know they build house, nothing.
- 21:40His own is just storage space. I want to park house.
- 21:44I don't know where to put my things in the meantime.
- 21:47So organic. Give me two containers, let me
- 21:51put my books, let me put my everything.
- 21:53He will say it is so, so, so and so amount.
- 21:55I'll give him money. He will keep the things there.
- 21:57That's all. People are renting space and he
- 22:01gives all kinds of example, toilet cleaning, people who are
- 22:05cleaning gutter, people who are in the people who are in the in
- 22:10the trades, air conditioner installing, solar installing,
- 22:13you know, things like that. People who are running these
- 22:16businesses, they don't have two heads.
- 22:18So those of you who are very smart and you have two heads and
- 22:21you just come in and you just operate it better than the other
- 22:23people, you are bound to succeed.
- 22:25And the Cuba is currently doing like 30-40 million every single
- 22:29year on top. What on top?
- 22:31Storage, storage space. When you want to put your book
- 22:39somewhere, when you want to store your clothes somewhere,
- 22:41when you want to store your whatever, somewhere you go, you
- 22:44pay him money. He will give you a key, he will
- 22:45say, OK, this is your whatever. And then every month I'll be
- 22:49every year you're paying the rent for that space.
- 22:51That is all he does now in my own state where I come from, in
- 23:00Nigeria, from venue state, because the gist is not
- 23:03verified, I'm not going to call the family name, but supposedly
- 23:06one of the, the first big boy that we have from our own state
- 23:10as in modern, you know, billionaire, although the family
- 23:13is no longer in that billionaire space because that guy is long
- 23:15since dead. And you know, he married a bunch
- 23:18of women. And you understand you, you know
- 23:21how it works. You can't be a billionaire.
- 23:22But The thing is, if you go and marry 50 wives and each wife has
- 23:25ten children, by the time you die, your estate will now be you
- 23:29see the mathematics? Which is why I think that please
- 23:33young men, when we hammer let's stop this whole thing off, you
- 23:35know, going to go and marry 20 wives.
- 23:37Like what for? Like relax, what are you
- 23:39chasing? The one wife that you have is
- 23:43enough for you. Like countdown.
- 23:46I really honestly don't know why you're pursuing anyway.
- 23:48So it is rumored that the guy made his money because back when
- 23:52he was in the UK in those days, he was in the sheet parking
- 23:57business and then he came back to Nigeria, West Africa and then
- 24:00continued the sheet parking business and then that's how he
- 24:02made his money. Now sheet parking business, it
- 24:05doesn't sound glamorous. So how many people want to get
- 24:08involved in sheet parking business?
- 24:10Definitely not me. So The thing is you listening to
- 24:13this podcast now, if you are smarter than the average person
- 24:16and you get involved in the sheet parking business and
- 24:18you're smarter than this other people, you manage it better.
- 24:21You run it like a proper business with some proper
- 24:23marketing, your operations are on point.
- 24:26Maybe you do some principles of lean operations, managing your
- 24:30costs. You see how you can enter into
- 24:34some unsexy businesses and then just blue.
- 24:38So it would be nice if we all get involved in sexy businesses,
- 24:42raise a bunch of venture capital, start that next big
- 24:44Nigerian international conglomerate, build a remarkable
- 24:49product, something, something, something.
- 24:51But life can be a lot easier. Life can be a lot easier.
- 24:58Anyway, it's been 30 minutes, so let me just bring this thing to
- 25:01a close because some of you be wondering like, look, what's
- 25:03this guy on about and why is he paying by the whole matter?
- 25:05I'm just paying by the matter because there are people who are
- 25:07sitting down waiting for the perfect product.
- 25:13I've told you guys about this before, so let me repeat it
- 25:15again. There's one of my friends who
- 25:17are supposed to have started podcasting.
- 25:19In fact, three of us that should have started podcasting.
- 25:22One, the lady came from a televisions, televisions
- 25:27background. The other guy was a lawyer just
- 25:31like me. Well, not as in we're both in in
- 25:34school together and the hero was trying to get into podcasting.
- 25:38The first lady, she wanted everything to be perfect.
- 25:42I've been podcasting for five years now.
- 25:44Guess how many podcast episodes she has?
- 25:46Zero. She never started.
- 25:48Then the other guy, he wanted his podcast to be perfect, so he
- 25:52went ahead and he made the perfect podcast episode.
- 25:55I listened to it and I was impressed.
- 25:57The sound was on point, the editing was on point.
- 26:00He even synced background music to it and everything.
- 26:04And the podcast was beautiful. I had off my heart to him.
- 26:06But it's been five years. Guess how many podcast episodes
- 26:09that he has out? One.
- 26:11Now look at me. I'm sitting in the car.
- 26:14I'm in the car lot. I just wound down the window.
- 26:16So I wound up the windows. The podcast is not perfect.
- 26:20Sometimes you might say I'm rambling, you hear people
- 26:22quarreling in the background. But it's been five years, I have
- 26:26done over 1000 imperfect episodes and I am now gaining
- 26:31revenue from my podcast. The people who wanted to create
- 26:35a remarkable product, what did they do?
- 26:37They wasted time in innovating, wasted time in creating the
- 26:41perfect product. The reason why I combat some of
- 26:44these ideas. But anyway, you should listen to
- 26:47Seth Gordon because to be honest, he has more money than I
- 26:49do. And you know, they say the taste
- 26:51of the pudding is in the cooking.
- 26:52I mean, how do they say it? So actually, you should listen
- 26:55to Seth Gordon because he has more money than I do.
- 26:56So listen, I won't be making that money in dollars.
- 26:59But what I'm just trying to say is this whole thing of
- 27:01perfection, remarkable product. Too many people waste time in at
- 27:06the design stage and then they never start.
- 27:09So please, some of you take a chance.
- 27:11Be like me Cuba, be like me. Come over to the on sexy side,
- 27:14come over to the, you know, whatever side I shall just
- 27:18start. And have some faith in yourself
- 27:23and learn the things that you need to learn.
- 27:26But have faith that you will be able to sell this product.
- 27:30You will be able to get the skills necessary to be able to
- 27:33find your ideal customer. Talk to them, find out what they
- 27:37need, deliver value, capture value in the process.
- 27:41Have some faith in yourself. Just start.
- 27:43No matter how unsexy, no matter how unrefined, no matter how
- 27:47unfinished your product is, please just start.
- 27:51Anyway. Don't worry, after this you
- 27:52won't hear about purple cows anymore.
- 27:54After all, this is a sales podcast so actually should be
- 27:56talking about how you sell your product.
- 27:58I shouldn't be bashing another person for his own stuff anyway.
- 28:03So yeah, that's all. Remember if you'd love to
- 28:06connect with me then call SMS or WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 28:13Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 28:14I'll catch you next time. Same place in your headphones
- 28:17and your speakers. And don't worry, after this you
- 28:19will not hear me say anything about again about purple cows.
- 28:22I'll just focus on, you know, how we can sell and make our
- 28:25businesses better.