Latest / She's On The Money / MONEY DIARIES: Young Mum, Young Gun!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr
- 0:04Speaker 1: the Order Kernye Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before
- 0:08Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I
- 0:11Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land
- 0:14Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,
- 0:18Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming
- 0:22Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing
- 0:27Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for
- 0:30Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
- 0:34Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money the podcast
- 1:01Speaker 2: Millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another one
- 1:05Speaker 2: of our money diaries where I get the absolute privilege
- 1:08Speaker 2: of talking to one of our Shees on the Money
- 1:10Speaker 2: community members all about their journey. Let's jump straight into it,
- 1:14Speaker 2: because this week I got a message and it went
- 1:17Speaker 2: like this. Hi Ve, I was married at eighteen, I
- 1:20Speaker 2: owned two properties by twenty and had two babies by
- 1:24Speaker 2: twenty one. I'm now working full time to support my
- 1:27Speaker 2: family while studying part time. I would love to share
- 1:31Speaker 2: the experience of going from a two income household to
- 1:34Speaker 2: one with the community money diarists, I would also love
- 1:39Speaker 2: for you to share that story. Welcome to the show,
- 1:41Speaker 2: and thank you for wanting to share.
- 1:43Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I am so excited about this. I feel like married
- 1:48Speaker 2: at eighteen two, properties at twenty two, babies at twenty one,
- 1:52Speaker 2: like what the hecking like? That is a very condensed
- 1:56Speaker 2: timeframe that I need to know a lot about. But
- 1:59Speaker 2: before we get there, let's jump straight in moneyed diarist.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Before we start, what grade would you give your money
- 2:04Speaker 2: habits if I asked you to give them a grade
- 2:06Speaker 2: from A through to F.
- 2:07Speaker 4: I've been thinking a little bit on this question, and
- 2:11Speaker 4: I've been going back and forward with a couple of
- 2:14Speaker 4: different grades. I'd say I'd probably place myself around the
- 2:19Speaker 4: B minus, but it could fluctuate a little bit depending
- 2:21Speaker 4: on how sitting myself on the day.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Well, we're about to learn a lot more about this,
- 2:25Speaker 2: so I'm excited. Let's jump to my favorite question ever,
- 2:29Speaker 2: moneyed Diarist, Can you please tell me a little bit
- 2:32Speaker 2: more about your money story?
- 2:34Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely so. I would say that I grew up
- 2:38Speaker 4: in a fairly like middle income earning household. We weren't
- 2:44Speaker 4: super rich, but my parents also made sure that we
- 2:47Speaker 4: had everything that we needed and we were still able
- 2:49Speaker 4: to enjoy like the occasional family holiday, and it wasn't
- 2:55Speaker 4: down to the dollar. So it was always a pretty
- 2:59Speaker 4: comfortable relationship with money I had when I was growing up.
- 3:02Speaker 4: I would definitely say that when I was younger, I
- 3:06Speaker 4: wasn't a very good saver. I'm still learning out to
- 3:10Speaker 4: be a good saver, relatable. I spend happy. So my
- 3:14Speaker 4: parents always sort of trying to teach us how to
- 3:17Speaker 4: save a bit of our money not spend it all
- 3:20Speaker 4: in one place, which very few teenagers will listen to
- 3:24Speaker 4: that advice.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Sometimes we just have to learn on our own. Sometimes
- 3:27Speaker 2: I have to make my own mistake absolutely to learn
- 3:30Speaker 2: that maybe that's not what we should be doing.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Definitely, So that was always a little bit of that.
- 3:35Speaker 4: And then probably about three months out of high school,
- 3:39Speaker 4: two three months, I found out I was pregnant with
- 3:41Speaker 4: my daughter, and so that was a bit scary.
- 3:46Speaker 2: That's a lot. So how old were you.
- 3:48Speaker 4: I was seventeen at the time.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Oh, she's just a baby having a baby.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was, yeah, just crushed out of high school.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Me and my partner which now husband, had been together
- 4:00Speaker 4: a little bit over a year at the time, and.
- 4:02Speaker 2: You guys are still together. Yes, I love this so much.
- 4:06Speaker 4: Yeah. So we started dating in grade eleven, so we've
- 4:10Speaker 4: been together for it'll be six years this year and
- 4:14Speaker 4: married for three years this year. So yeah, that was
- 4:18Speaker 4: a bit hectic. So I had my daughter when I
- 4:20Speaker 4: was eighteen, and we didn't move out of home until
- 4:25Speaker 4: I was seven eight months pregnant. I was still living
- 4:28Speaker 4: with my parents at the time.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I would have milked out for all of it was worth, honestly,
- 4:32Speaker 2: I would have done exactly the same thing.
- 4:33Speaker 4: And so we got a little one bedroom apartment we
- 4:37Speaker 4: moved into when I was like eight months pregnant. I
- 4:40Speaker 4: was working in the family business at the time as
- 4:43Speaker 4: a trainee, so I was long training ages. They were
- 4:46Speaker 4: not very good.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. As someone who's also like eight months
- 4:49Speaker 2: pregnant right now, moving and eight months pregnant like hoofed, no,
- 4:54Speaker 2: thank you, it was a lot.
- 4:55Speaker 4: But we had so many people helping us out, which
- 4:58Speaker 4: was amazing. We both have pretty big families, and so, yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 4: we had my daughter. I was a trainee at the
- 5:05Speaker 4: time and my husband was just working like casually in hospitalities.
- 5:11Speaker 2: So what were you with training in.
- 5:13Speaker 4: I worked well, I worked at a mortgage brokerage, so
- 5:16Speaker 4: I was doing a business admin traineeship at the time.
- 5:19Speaker 4: And yeah, so things with my birth my daughter didn't
- 5:24Speaker 4: really go as planned. There were quite a few complications
- 5:27Speaker 4: after I had her, so I wasn't able to drive
- 5:31Speaker 4: or six months after I had my daughter.
- 5:33Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, youre you okay now?
- 5:35Speaker 4: Yes, everything's all good now. But so I wasn't able
- 5:38Speaker 4: to drive for six months after I had my daughter,
- 5:40Speaker 4: which was definitely a challenge.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Six months, Yes, like a low key, like complete side note,
- 5:49Speaker 2: I am terrified that I'll end up with a C section,
- 5:52Speaker 2: purely because I don't want to not drive for six weeks. Yeah,
- 5:55Speaker 2: I'm like that feels like I'll be trapped. So six
- 5:59Speaker 2: months would have been terrifying.
- 6:01Speaker 4: Six months it was very difficult. But thankfully where we'd moved,
- 6:05Speaker 4: we were super super close to my parents' house, were
- 6:08Speaker 4: only like a few streets away, so nice. With all
- 6:12Speaker 4: the complications that happened with my birth, I wasn't really
- 6:15Speaker 4: comfortable at saying at home by myself just with the
- 6:18Speaker 4: baby while my husband was at work, so my husband
- 6:22Speaker 4: would drop me off at my parents' house while he
- 6:24Speaker 4: went to work because he started a full time job
- 6:26Speaker 4: two weeks after we had our daughter.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you really do do what you got
- 6:30Speaker 2: to do?
- 6:30Speaker 5: Hey.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was at my parents' house every day
- 6:35Speaker 4: with my daughter, and I was like, well, she's just
- 6:38Speaker 4: a newborn, she's just sleeping. I'm kind of bored. So
- 6:41Speaker 4: I went back to work two weeks after I'd had
- 6:44Speaker 4: my daughter.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, no, what are you doing? Also low key,
- 6:48Speaker 2: your parents probably loved having you and her around.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Oh yeah, often it was we were the first grand
- 6:54Speaker 4: baby on my site and my husband's side of the family,
- 6:57Speaker 4: so it was absolutely spoiled dred percent. Yeah. So I
- 7:02Speaker 4: didn't really take maternity leave after having my daughter. I
- 7:05Speaker 4: was just working from home at my parents' place. Then
- 7:09Speaker 4: pretty much into like a drive again, or I would
- 7:12Speaker 4: go into the office with my family because we all
- 7:16Speaker 4: worked at the same place. And then so yeah, that
- 7:19Speaker 4: was that. And then come into the end of twenty twenty,
- 7:27Speaker 4: so I'd had my daughter in September and December, we
- 7:31Speaker 4: were like, look, we're not going to be in this
- 7:35Speaker 4: rental property forever. We'd only signed the six month lease
- 7:38Speaker 4: at the time, and we were like, the rental market
- 7:42Speaker 4: isn't great. The real estate market. I kind of knew
- 7:46Speaker 4: what was going on, and I was like, the housing
- 7:48Speaker 4: market is going to be going up. If we don't
- 7:50Speaker 4: take advantage of it now, we're never going to be
- 7:52Speaker 4: able to And we were obviously in the privileged position
- 7:56Speaker 4: that my family was able to give up loan US
- 7:59Speaker 4: money to be able to purchase a house. So we
- 8:02Speaker 4: found the one house in our area that was within
- 8:05Speaker 4: our price range. It was an off the plan and.
- 8:08Speaker 2: You were like, oh, buy this one because this is
- 8:10Speaker 2: the only.
- 8:11Speaker 4: The only option. Yeah, it was an off the plan,
- 8:14Speaker 4: and we were like, we need to have a contract
- 8:16Speaker 4: signed by the end of the year so we can
- 8:17Speaker 4: get all of these grants and everything. So it was
- 8:22Speaker 4: very on the whim, signed it like a week or
- 8:25Speaker 4: two up. We decided that's what we were doing, and
- 8:28Speaker 4: then that was built by June of twenty twenty one.
- 8:33Speaker 4: We moved in June twenty twenty one and that was
- 8:36Speaker 4: our first house. So we were there for a year
- 8:41Speaker 4: year and a half. But the property market, as I said,
- 8:45Speaker 4: went up really really quickly. So we bought our house
- 8:48Speaker 4: and within like six to twelve months, it had gone
- 8:52Speaker 4: up by like at least one hundred thousand dollars in value.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, money, win, that's some nice equity.
- 8:59Speaker 4: It wasn't nice equity. So I was like, look, we
- 9:03Speaker 4: could take out some of this equity and look and
- 9:06Speaker 4: see if there's any investment properties that we'd be interested
- 9:09Speaker 4: in buying. I was like, we're on a roll. Why
- 9:11Speaker 4: stop now. So we were able to take out some
- 9:15Speaker 4: equity and find a little studio property that was super
- 9:22Speaker 4: cheap and already had attendant in it and everything, and
- 9:25Speaker 4: we purchased that at the start of twenty twenty one.
- 9:29Speaker 4: And then that could have sort of just blotted along.
- 9:32Speaker 4: There wasn't really anything to do with that. And then
- 9:35Speaker 4: I found out that I was pregnant with my son
- 9:38Speaker 4: in December of twenty twenty two, and it was just
- 9:44Speaker 4: a little bit of a whirlwind. So we'd had both
- 9:46Speaker 4: the houses and we were like, look, what is the plan.
- 9:51Speaker 4: So we sort of sat down, looked at our finances,
- 9:55Speaker 4: looked at everything, and we were like, we can make
- 9:57Speaker 4: it work staying in our house. But at that point,
- 10:00Speaker 4: both my husband and I were studying, and so we
- 10:04Speaker 4: decided probably not the best financial decision unless we want
- 10:08Speaker 4: to be counting pennies. And so again we were in
- 10:13Speaker 4: the privileged position that my grandmother had heats of room
- 10:17Speaker 4: at her house. And so I had my son in
- 10:20Speaker 4: August twenty twenty three again and say getting maternityly because
- 10:26Speaker 4: I was just like, I'm too bored to sit at
- 10:28Speaker 4: home with a newborn. I'll just go.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Crazy as someone who's about to have a baby. And honestly,
- 10:34Speaker 2: your work ethic sounds like mine. Sometimes people were like,
- 10:37Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that's so admirable, and I'm like, no,
- 10:39Speaker 2: I would go up the wall if you didn't let
- 10:41Speaker 2: me work, like I will go crazy, Like I need
- 10:43Speaker 2: to do this. I can't imagine, and like I'm lucky
- 10:47Speaker 2: that I've been around so many newborns and I know
- 10:49Speaker 2: they do sleep a lot, Like what am I going
- 10:51Speaker 2: to do in that period of time? I know people
- 10:52Speaker 2: say you need sleep, but I'm like I don't sleep
- 10:55Speaker 2: at the best of times. So don't know how this
- 10:56Speaker 2: is going to work. Was going back like in hindsight
- 11:00Speaker 2: at two weeks was that too early? Were you like no, no, no,
- 11:02Speaker 2: I just all worked out and I like balanced it,
- 11:04Speaker 2: or like what did that actually look like I think
- 11:07Speaker 2: was my daughter.
- 11:09Speaker 4: It was okay because I was just working from home
- 11:14Speaker 4: and there were so many people in the house that
- 11:16Speaker 4: was able to help. Even when my daughter was like awake,
- 11:20Speaker 4: I was breastfeeding with all the complications, so it was
- 11:23Speaker 4: pretty easy. I could like get someone else to feed
- 11:26Speaker 4: her if I was busy doing something. So with my daughter,
- 11:29Speaker 4: that was good. With my son, I definitely think I
- 11:33Speaker 4: pushed myself a little bit too hard. I was working
- 11:37Speaker 4: up until the day that I got in juice. I
- 11:39Speaker 4: went to work on the Friday morning, worked a half day,
- 11:43Speaker 4: and then went to the hospital on a Friday afternoon
- 11:46Speaker 4: to get in juice.
- 11:47Speaker 2: I feel like that will be me. I regret nothing already.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I was planning on just going back
- 11:52Speaker 4: to work on Monday, but I was still in the
- 11:54Speaker 4: hospital on Monday. No, I was still in the hospital
- 11:57Speaker 4: on Monday. I got discharged Monday, and she's so warning.
- 12:01Speaker 4: I was working on my laptop with my son. He's
- 12:04Speaker 4: like three days crazy.
- 12:06Speaker 2: But I think that people think I'm going to be bad.
- 12:08Speaker 2: I'm not going to be that bad, Like that's bad.
- 12:10Speaker 4: I'm like, I think that was like it was definitely
- 12:13Speaker 4: pushing it I mean, I still feel like it was
- 12:17Speaker 4: the right decision for me at the time. I don't
- 12:20Speaker 4: think i'd necessarily change it, but I definitely think like
- 12:23Speaker 4: future children, now that we would have like three or
- 12:28Speaker 4: more kids, I would definitely take the time to just
- 12:33Speaker 4: take my fair share of praternity leaves.
- 12:35Speaker 2: But following yeah, fair.
- 12:37Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I think looking back on it in hindsight,
- 12:40Speaker 4: it definitely was what I would do even if I
- 12:43Speaker 4: went back, and I might get myself another week or two,
- 12:45Speaker 4: but I just think I would have been too bored.
- 12:47Speaker 2: Yeah, fair, Fair, So you've had your second son, you
- 12:52Speaker 2: started in mortgage breaking, what are you now studying? Like,
- 12:55Speaker 2: where are we at today?
- 12:57Speaker 4: So at the moment, I'm studying. I'm doing a double
- 13:00Speaker 4: degree in business and psychology. I've just started this last
- 13:05Speaker 4: summer semester. I'm finishing my first semester at the moment,
- 13:08Speaker 4: so I've just gone back into it. But yeah, I'm
- 13:11Speaker 4: just doing that part time and I'm no longer working
- 13:15Speaker 4: in a mortgage brokerage. So in October we moved in
- 13:18Speaker 4: with my grandma and we put our previous house we
- 13:23Speaker 4: were living in also up on the market. And then
- 13:25Speaker 4: in November I started my new job. So I'm working
- 13:29Speaker 4: in a government agency now in like debt, and so
- 13:34Speaker 4: that is Monday to Friday, like eight thirty to four
- 13:37Speaker 4: point thirty. So, timmy just kind of revolves around that
- 13:41Speaker 4: at the moment.
- 13:42Speaker 2: How cool. And you said that you now have a
- 13:45Speaker 2: one income household. Does that mean that your partner is
- 13:49Speaker 2: not working?
- 13:49Speaker 4: Yes, so my partner is now a full time stay
- 13:51Speaker 4: at home dad, okay you He's also going back to
- 13:55Speaker 4: full time UNI in a couple of weeks. So when
- 14:00Speaker 4: we moved, because it was just such a big shift,
- 14:03Speaker 4: we figured we take the kids out of day care
- 14:05Speaker 4: for a little bit and just let them settle with
- 14:08Speaker 4: one change at a time. So just get them a
- 14:10Speaker 4: couple months to settle into the new environment. So both
- 14:13Speaker 4: of the kids will be going into daycare in the
- 14:16Speaker 4: next two weeks the sum of February, and my husband
- 14:20Speaker 4: will be going back into UNI menpav, So that'll be
- 14:23Speaker 4: in daycare three days a week and then with h
- 14:26Speaker 4: the other two.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Yeah cool. I love this for you, all right. So
- 14:31Speaker 2: that makes me want to go back into the structured
- 14:33Speaker 2: questions that I always bring to the table, but get
- 14:36Speaker 2: completely sidetracked on what does that mean you earn if
- 14:39Speaker 2: you work for a government agency in debt, what are
- 14:42Speaker 2: you earning?
- 14:43Speaker 4: So at the moment, I'm on sixty seven, five hundred
- 14:47Speaker 4: and seventy seven dollars a year. That's not very specific, Yeah,
- 14:51Speaker 4: very very broad, and my super I completely got checked.
- 14:55Speaker 4: But it's like fourteen fifteen per cent super on top.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Of that, very very real. Nice. And you've bought and
- 15:02Speaker 2: sold properties, You've had babies, you've already gotten married. But
- 15:05Speaker 2: what are your big money goals at the moment? What
- 15:07Speaker 2: are you and your partner working towards.
- 15:09Speaker 4: Well, we'll dive into it like a little bit later
- 15:13Speaker 4: as well. At the moment, we're just trying to pay
- 15:15Speaker 4: off most of our personal debt, so we are actually
- 15:18Speaker 4: in debates in the moment about selling one of our
- 15:21Speaker 4: investment properties to be able to just wipe house late
- 15:25Speaker 4: and be pretty free. Well we're still on one income,
- 15:29Speaker 4: but that's still in the debating stage. But yeah, at
- 15:32Speaker 4: the moment, we're just focusing on paying down the debt.
- 15:35Speaker 4: And we've got quite a few big family holidays planned
- 15:40Speaker 4: over the next few years which will be quite expensive,
- 15:44Speaker 4: so we're saving for those as well.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Oh exciting though, Yeah, how fun? All right? Let's go
- 15:50Speaker 2: to a really quick break. And on the flip side,
- 15:52Speaker 2: you mentioned some personal debt. I want to dive into that.
- 15:55Speaker 2: I also want to know all the pervy details about
- 15:58Speaker 2: what mortgages you still have and what you owe and
- 16:00Speaker 2: how all of that works. So guys, don't go anywhere,
- 16:08Speaker 2: all right, money direst do We are back and we
- 16:10Speaker 2: are going to start with investment. I wantn't know. Obviously
- 16:13Speaker 2: you've got investment properties, but do you have any investments?
- 16:16Speaker 2: If so, what are they? Please share?
- 16:18Speaker 4: Yeah? Of course, so yeah, obviously we have our to
- 16:23Speaker 4: investment properties. So did you want my values of them?
- 16:28Speaker 1: Oh?
- 16:28Speaker 2: I want as much detail as you'll let us have. Like,
- 16:31Speaker 2: have you ever listened to a money diary and been like, damn,
- 16:33Speaker 2: I wish you didn't tell me how much she owed
- 16:35Speaker 2: on that?
- 16:36Speaker 4: No, No, that's totally fine. So our first property we
- 16:39Speaker 4: ever bought, which was our owner occupied homes for a while,
- 16:42Speaker 4: is probably worse between like five hundred and five to
- 16:46Speaker 4: fifty at the moment, and we've got owing on that
- 16:50Speaker 4: about four hundred and fifteen thousands.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Hey, that's pretty good. It's still sitting on some nice equity.
- 16:56Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not bad. And then our second property. We
- 16:59Speaker 4: bought it for eighty six thousand dollars.
- 17:02Speaker 2: No, you didn't eighty six thousand dollars.
- 17:05Speaker 4: Yeah, Hell, it was a little studio up in like
- 17:10Speaker 4: North Queensland, so we bought it for eighty six and
- 17:14Speaker 4: it's probably like between one hundred and thirty do one
- 17:18Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Now, no, it's not. How good is that?
- 17:22Speaker 4: Yeah? And that one we've got about seventy eight thousand
- 17:26Speaker 4: dollars owing on it.
- 17:28Speaker 2: That's a nice position to be in.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's some good equity in both of them.
- 17:33Speaker 4: And then obviously I've got my Super. So my super's
- 17:37Speaker 4: sitting just over sixteen thousand at the moment.
- 17:41Speaker 2: How old are you now today, I'm twenty one. Yeah,
- 17:44Speaker 2: so you're still a child and you've got sixteen thousand
- 17:46Speaker 2: dollars in Super, You've got two properties, You've got some
- 17:49Speaker 2: nice equity on it. Like how at twenty one I
- 17:54Speaker 2: was drunk. I definitely wasn't thinking about this.
- 18:00Speaker 4: Yeah, So my goal is I'm hoping to get to
- 18:03Speaker 4: twenty five thousand dollars and Super by the end of
- 18:05Speaker 4: the YEA.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Yeah you will, don't worry.
- 18:07Speaker 4: I know that I'll get to twenty, but I'm hoping
- 18:09Speaker 4: I'll only get to twenty five. I have sat down
- 18:11Speaker 4: and worked out the numbers exactly, and then I've also
- 18:14Speaker 4: got a chare Zia's account has just over six hundred
- 18:20Speaker 4: dollars in it at the moment.
- 18:22Speaker 2: How did you get involved with chare Zias? I can like,
- 18:24Speaker 2: what did you pick? How did you pick it? What
- 18:26Speaker 2: did all that look like? Well? I heard about Chazea's
- 18:29Speaker 2: on the show Well Revolutionary.
- 18:32Speaker 4: Previously, all my investing information had come from all of
- 18:36Speaker 4: the men in my life, so it was use this
- 18:40Speaker 4: super detailed app and you have to write down this
- 18:43Speaker 4: twenty seven word secret password and do all of this thing.
- 18:47Speaker 4: And I was like, that's that's too much for me, no,
- 18:49Speaker 4: thank you. So yeah, I heard about chair Zia's on
- 18:52Speaker 4: the podcast and I just downloaded it, and I don't know,
- 18:58Speaker 4: I kind of bigger all of the money that I'm
- 19:00Speaker 4: putting in it at the moment. Obviously the goal is
- 19:04Speaker 4: for that to make money in the future, but at
- 19:06Speaker 4: the moment, I'm only putting in little amounts. I'm really
- 19:10Speaker 4: just sort of playing around seeing what I like. So
- 19:13Speaker 4: I've got kind of a mixture of like more safe things,
- 19:16Speaker 4: so I've got some like ETFs and all that kind
- 19:19Speaker 4: of stuff, and then I'll just put in like a
- 19:21Speaker 4: few dollars here and then to companies that I'm just
- 19:23Speaker 4: interested in following and seeing how they track over the years.
- 19:27Speaker 2: And do you find it easy or hard or like obviously,
- 19:30Speaker 2: I feel like people are overwhelmed, right, People are so
- 19:33Speaker 2: overwhelmed when they're like, oh, an investing app. Absolutely not,
- 19:36Speaker 2: but like it is easy whishasis or hard or yeah.
- 19:38Speaker 4: Chases are super super user friendly and so obviously at
- 19:42Speaker 4: the moment, I haven't been putting any extra money into
- 19:45Speaker 4: it really, but whenever, I just hop on every now
- 19:49Speaker 4: and then and if I've gotten paid a little dibiends
- 19:51Speaker 4: from one of my investments, so I'll just put it
- 19:53Speaker 4: back in to it, right dude.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you're learning about it all as well,
- 19:58Speaker 2: in like a way that you're like, no, this makes sense,
- 20:00Speaker 2: like I like it and I get to have a
- 20:01Speaker 2: play like yeah, ah, I love it all. Right, let's
- 20:04Speaker 2: flip the conversation because I want to know about debt.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Before the break, you said, Oh, my partner and I
- 20:09Speaker 2: we're gonna be paying down some personal debt, So tell
- 20:13Speaker 2: me about your debt. You told us about the mortgages.
- 20:15Speaker 2: So we know that on your first property you have
- 20:17Speaker 2: about four hundred and fifteen thousand, oh ing at about
- 20:19Speaker 2: seventy on the other one. But what's this personal debt?
- 20:22Speaker 2: Tell us?
- 20:23Speaker 4: So at the moment, I've got a car loan. So
- 20:27Speaker 4: shortly before I had my son, we had had two
- 20:31Speaker 4: cars and we sold. I had a little car, we'd
- 20:34Speaker 4: sold that and we were just like, look, we only
- 20:37Speaker 4: are gonna need one car when we move on with
- 20:39Speaker 4: my grandmother, so we'll just keep my husband's car. And
- 20:43Speaker 4: we kind of just assumed at the time it would
- 20:45Speaker 4: be big enough. And then we got my son's carsiet
- 20:50Speaker 4: and the double cram and I was like, there is
- 20:52Speaker 4: no way that this car absolutely not. So we kind
- 20:59Speaker 4: of had to perch the car and I was like,
- 21:01Speaker 4: we don't really have car money, but our sun is
- 21:03Speaker 4: due in three weeks. That's the we option we have.
- 21:06Speaker 4: So we had to get a car loan. So that
- 21:08Speaker 4: one's sitting about twenty thousand now, and we ended up
- 21:12Speaker 4: actually just keeping my husband's car because like a bit
- 21:16Speaker 4: off track, but my grandmother lives on an island.
- 21:18Speaker 2: On an island, yes.
- 21:20Speaker 4: So we have my husband's car on the island and
- 21:24Speaker 4: we use that as just like our island car because
- 21:26Speaker 4: it's owned outright, there's no debt against it or anything.
- 21:30Speaker 4: So my car on like the mainland has the carloon
- 21:34Speaker 4: against it. And then we've got a credit card as well.
- 21:38Speaker 4: That's six thousand, and that's mostly massed out at the
- 21:42Speaker 4: moment with moving costs and baby costs.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Yes, and baby costs are a lot, a lot so much. Wait,
- 21:51Speaker 2: so you've moved to an island. You failed to disclose
- 21:54Speaker 2: that part before. That sounds bougie. The fact that you
- 21:57Speaker 2: have an island car and a mainland car. How do
- 22:01Speaker 2: you get from the mainland to the island, Like you
- 22:04Speaker 2: just drive home and then go for a little swim,
- 22:06Speaker 2: Like what are we doing?
- 22:07Speaker 4: So there's a ferry and a barge. So the faerry
- 22:11Speaker 4: is like walk on passengers only, and that operates from
- 22:15Speaker 4: sort of like five six in the morning up until
- 22:18Speaker 4: ten thirty at night, and it's like an every half
- 22:20Speaker 4: hour basis, so it's pretty regular. And then the barge
- 22:24Speaker 4: just operates really during the day, so it's yeah, that's
- 22:27Speaker 4: pretty early around six. That only operates till about like
- 22:30Speaker 4: three or four, and that's you can drive your car Onto,
- 22:34Speaker 4: but you can also walk on if you'd like. So
- 22:37Speaker 4: you have to go from the mainland park in the
- 22:41Speaker 4: little car park that everyone parks in, and then get
- 22:43Speaker 4: onto the ferry, take the ferry home to the island
- 22:47Speaker 4: and then you can like drive up to the house
- 22:49Speaker 4: from there.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so you've kind of got a curfew
- 22:52Speaker 2: at home. What if you have a party or something
- 22:54Speaker 2: on the mainland, what do you do at the moment?
- 22:57Speaker 4: Really, Like, if we have anything that we know not
- 23:00Speaker 4: going to make the last very home, We'll just plan
- 23:03Speaker 4: to stay with my family yep that night and I'll
- 23:06Speaker 4: just go to work and then we'll go home the
- 23:08Speaker 4: next day. But we aren't exactly packed out with social
- 23:12Speaker 4: events for two kids, so it's not a massive problem.
- 23:17Speaker 4: But we me and my husband are definitely both concert enthusiasts. Yeah,
- 23:21Speaker 4: so we definitely have the occasional concert that we kind
- 23:25Speaker 4: of have to ship the family over to my parents'
- 23:27Speaker 4: house to say it.
- 23:28Speaker 2: That's all right? How cool?
- 23:30Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 23:30Speaker 2: I love that. That is not what I expected. When
- 23:34Speaker 2: you're like, yep, we moved are we kept the other car?
- 23:37Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, fair enough, Like I wonder why,
- 23:39Speaker 2: and you told us that it was because you live
- 23:41Speaker 2: on in Ireland and that makes the most sense. I
- 23:43Speaker 2: couldn't have guessed. So tell me a bit more about that, Carlon.
- 23:47Speaker 2: How much is it and how long is it going
- 23:49Speaker 2: to take you to pay off that one?
- 23:51Speaker 1: Is?
- 23:51Speaker 4: It's setting at about twenty thousand now. I think we
- 23:56Speaker 4: originally sent it as a seven year loone term just
- 23:59Speaker 4: so you can have them minim repayments, because we can
- 24:02Speaker 4: definitely pay it off faster, but I don't want to
- 24:05Speaker 4: have it too short and then be stratched for cash
- 24:08Speaker 4: and be worried about a higher repayment. So that one,
- 24:12Speaker 4: I mean, we only got it later in the year
- 24:15Speaker 4: last year, so it's still got some time on it,
- 24:17Speaker 4: but it's costs. I think the four nilely repayments for
- 24:21Speaker 4: about one hundred and ninety bucks, so it's not too bad.
- 24:24Speaker 2: All right. Now, I want to know what do you
- 24:26Speaker 2: think your best money habit is? Like, you don't own
- 24:29Speaker 2: two houses before twenty one and have babies and get
- 24:32Speaker 2: married without some good money habits. I know you say, oh,
- 24:35Speaker 2: like we sometimes make mistakes. I'm like, yeah, but not really. Hey,
- 24:40Speaker 2: so what are your best money habits?
- 24:43Speaker 4: Okay, I'd say my best money habit is I don't
- 24:48Speaker 4: like paying full price for anything. Neither do I worry
- 24:52Speaker 4: sounds a little bit strange, but I will like search
- 24:57Speaker 4: every corners the internet like a discount co food, or
- 25:01Speaker 4: like wait for its gone stale, or wait for the
- 25:03Speaker 4: shot back hash back to be like increased, and try
- 25:08Speaker 4: to add up to all these little discounts to be
- 25:10Speaker 4: able to like purchase something like. I'll always when everyone's like, oh,
- 25:16Speaker 4: shot back kind of seems like, oh, well, you get
- 25:19Speaker 4: like a dollar there, a dollar here, I'm like.
- 25:22Speaker 2: It adds up.
- 25:23Speaker 4: It adds up. When I look back at my lifetime
- 25:26Speaker 4: earnings one shot back, I'm like, who am I I'm
- 25:29Speaker 4: so good.
- 25:30Speaker 2: You're a money saving queen, that's what you are.
- 25:32Speaker 4: Yeah, my shot back lifetime earnings is just over a
- 25:35Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one thousand dollars you didn't have before you
- 25:39Speaker 2: used shot back and it was free money. Like, yeah,
- 25:42Speaker 2: can't complain.
- 25:44Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think I've ever been using shot back
- 25:45Speaker 4: for like a year or two, so I'm like.
- 25:48Speaker 2: She's using it, well, I like it. You're a fan. Now,
- 25:52Speaker 2: flip the narrative, what is your worst money habit?
- 25:56Speaker 4: I would say my worst money habit is. I'm jeff
- 26:00Speaker 4: a bits then Pappy when it comes to gifting. Gift
- 26:03Speaker 4: thing is definitely my love language. And when you have
- 26:07Speaker 4: a husband and two kids, you will get trapped down
- 26:10Speaker 4: the rabbit holes. I'm like, Oh, my daughter would think
- 26:14Speaker 4: that would be so cute. I should get that for her,
- 26:16Speaker 4: And it's just spirals. So it got me into a
- 26:20Speaker 4: bit of a sticky situation for a while with after
- 26:23Speaker 4: pay because I was just putting everything after pay. But
- 26:26Speaker 4: I paid off and closed my off pay today.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Oh my god, No you didn't. Yeah, Oh congarats, yeah, And.
- 26:33Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it was just such a weight
- 26:36Speaker 4: off my shoulders because I've been in after pay cycle
- 26:39Speaker 4: for like eight year or so. So I was like, wow,
- 26:42Speaker 4: you go.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so easy to just rely on, isn't it.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Like it's a slippery slope. Like once you realize how
- 26:48Speaker 2: then this isn't me saying it's good, but like once
- 26:51Speaker 2: you realize how easy it can be to use, you're like, oh,
- 26:54Speaker 2: well that's easy then yeah, and then you slip down
- 26:57Speaker 2: the slope and realize, oh, this is actually enabling me
- 27:00Speaker 2: to spend money I shouldn't be spending. You don't really
- 27:03Speaker 2: want to get rid of it, do you.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so proud of you, and I can't believe
- 27:07Speaker 2: you did that today. How well timed is that?
- 27:10Speaker 4: Yep?
- 27:10Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's actually I reckon a very perfect
- 27:14Speaker 2: place to leave it. But before we go, you've just
- 27:16Speaker 2: told me all this cool stuff, like I cannot believe
- 27:20Speaker 2: what you've achieved, and you are still, in my eyes
- 27:23Speaker 2: as a nearly middle aged someone in their thirties. Obviously
- 27:27Speaker 2: that's me being dramatic, but you're twenty one. So to me,
- 27:31Speaker 2: I'm like, you are younger than my little sister. That
- 27:34Speaker 2: doesn't make sense because my little sister in my head,
- 27:36Speaker 2: although she's like twenty nine, she's like, I don't know,
- 27:39Speaker 2: at least eighteen in my head that's where she's living.
- 27:42Speaker 2: But you're a literal young young adult and you've smashed
- 27:46Speaker 2: it all out your own two properties. When you said
- 27:48Speaker 2: I have some personal debt, I was like, ooh, what
- 27:50Speaker 2: is it? And then you said it was a Carlo
- 27:52Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, well, you know that's still
- 27:54Speaker 2: technically an asset. Yes, it's a depreciating one. So we're like,
- 27:57Speaker 2: we don't want to see it in too good of
- 27:59Speaker 2: a life, but at the same time, for your personal situation,
- 28:02Speaker 2: that made sense. You're saving, you're investing, you worked in
- 28:06Speaker 2: mortgage broking, like you now have a government agency job
- 28:09Speaker 2: in debt. Like what's it going to take to get
- 28:12Speaker 2: you from a B minus to maybe even just an
- 28:15Speaker 2: A or N A plus? Like what would that actually
- 28:18Speaker 2: look like?
- 28:19Speaker 4: I think for me, I'd like to be able to one.
- 28:24Speaker 4: I feel like, once I've paid out my car loan
- 28:26Speaker 4: and then I've got a credit card, I don't think
- 28:30Speaker 4: I'm going to close the credit card because I'm using
- 28:32Speaker 4: it for points and stuff. But once I'm not using
- 28:37Speaker 4: money that I don't have all that kind of stuff
- 28:41Speaker 4: and have paid out my personal debt, I think that's
- 28:43Speaker 4: definitely a good place to start.
- 28:45Speaker 2: I like that.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm like, I think I just I want
- 28:49Speaker 4: to get a little bit better at living below my
- 28:52Speaker 4: means and not getting as crazy about trying to keep
- 28:58Speaker 4: up the joneses, which can be difficult when all of
- 29:01Speaker 4: your friends like out partying and going on holidays and
- 29:03Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I'm homeless, stupid.
- 29:06Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's such a different circumstance because you wait
- 29:09Speaker 2: till you're like thirty nine forty and they're still at
- 29:12Speaker 2: home looking after you're the kids, and you're like, we
- 29:14Speaker 2: are having our best lives right now.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I think once we've wiped out our
- 29:19Speaker 4: personal debt and we're just a little bit more comfortable
- 29:23Speaker 4: spot well and not having to out all of our dollars,
- 29:26Speaker 4: I'd like to be able to just go out, go
- 29:29Speaker 4: to the shops, do my stuff and not have to
- 29:31Speaker 4: be checking my bag out to make sure there's enough
- 29:33Speaker 4: money in there. I think that's where I'd like to be,
- 29:36Speaker 4: and investing a bit more regularly, which obviously is sort
- 29:39Speaker 4: of on the back burner, but.
- 29:40Speaker 2: All of that is so doable, Like there's nothing that's
- 29:43Speaker 2: completely out of reach. That makes me so excited. So
- 29:46Speaker 2: I'll just like check in with you in a couple
- 29:48Speaker 2: of years and be like, where are you at now?
- 29:50Speaker 2: It's you, babes, I'm at a plus. Clearly I love
- 29:54Speaker 2: it money, Doris. Thank you so much for sharing this.
- 29:57Speaker 2: This has been super interesting. I'm very very proud of
- 30:01Speaker 2: what you've achieved and how far you've come, and like
- 30:03Speaker 2: all of this stuff that you're doing, but also just
- 30:06Speaker 2: this idea that you're like, no, no, no, I actually
- 30:08Speaker 2: know what it's going to take to get me to
- 30:10Speaker 2: an a plus like that. Clarity is so powerful. But
- 30:13Speaker 2: thank you for sharing with a community. I've loved this.
- 30:15Speaker 2: It's been a fun chat, and I think our community
- 30:18Speaker 2: are going to love it just as much as I did.
- 30:20Speaker 4: Thank you so much having me also assignment before I
- 30:23Speaker 4: finish that. My bank you briand is so bad that
- 30:26Speaker 4: I literally told you I'm twenty one and I am
- 30:28Speaker 4: twenty two.
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