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Episode 153 – How To Building Sales, Relationships & Social Impact with Michael Podolny

In Episode 153, Drewbie sits down with Michael Podolny to explore one of the most counterintuitive—but powerful—principles in sales and business: give to get.

With over two decades of experience in mergers & acquisitions, advisory work, and professional services, Michael shares how his biggest sales wins came not from pitching harder—but from building genuine relationships, serving first, and trusting long-term value creation.

The conversation takes a powerful turn as Michael walks through how this philosophy led him into an unexpected mission in Africa—creating real jobs for women exiting…

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