Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Valuable Sales Pro: Boosting Business & Your Career
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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Aide.
- 0:04I solve sales challenges and I'm making today's podcast recording
- 0:08just outside the car wash. So expect to hear some noise in
- 0:11the background, although I've wound up the windows.
- 0:13So hopefully there won't be too much noise coming in while I'm
- 0:15waiting for the car to get washed.
- 0:18Now the goal of this podcast is not to talk about how and where
- 0:21I get my car washed. It's actually to focus on
- 0:24business education. So if you like the stuff that
- 0:27you hear here, please spread the word so that your friends and
- 0:30family members at home in Nigeria and abroad can benefit
- 0:34from the questions that we tackle.
- 0:36And if you'd love to connect, you can hit me up.
- 0:38You can call SMS or WhatsApp on 08064662140.
- 0:45Now today on the podcast, I want to share a conversation that I
- 0:49had with someone, let's say like last night.
- 0:53Now she's someone who reached out.
- 0:54She's a listener of the podcast. She likes all the things that we
- 0:58talk about over here. We had a very frank conversation
- 1:01about what it would take to engage my services as a coach
- 1:04and as a consultant, not just to work with her but for her
- 1:07organization. And she was real upfront that
- 1:11currently they do not have the budget to afford my services,
- 1:15but she personally is interested in engaging my services as soon
- 1:20as she can afford. Now, of course, since I always
- 1:24make myself available to you guys, I mean, know how know how,
- 1:27especially if we've been talking, you know, one-on-one,
- 1:30we've already built some sort of a relationship.
- 1:32I'm always trying to help people out as much as I can.
- 1:35Of course, I prioritize paying clients, you know, those who
- 1:39have actually paid me for my services.
- 1:41Those are the people that I prioritize.
- 1:43But I try to answer as many people as possible.
- 1:47So I thought, OK, cool, no problem.
- 1:49We can work together. But in the meantime, here are a
- 1:52list of questions that you need to go and ask your auger so that
- 1:56by the time he answers these questions, you will be able to
- 1:59sell effectively in your role. Because most Nigerian business
- 2:05owners, people who set up a business, who run whatever it is
- 2:07that they run, they just assume that sales people are born.
- 2:11They don't realize that sales people are made, that you
- 2:14actually have to teach somebody to sell on your business's
- 2:17behalf. And I could tell that they
- 2:19hadn't given her any kind of training.
- 2:22So I just gave her a list of questions.
- 2:23Here's a list of things go and discuss with Oga.
- 2:26Once Oga gives you the answers, you'll be able to know how to
- 2:29sell. That's why I gave her the list.
- 2:30And then she said thank you. And then she left.
- 2:33Then she reached out a couple of days later.
- 2:36They say, bro, to be honest, I want to ask my Oga.
- 2:41And my Oga could not give me the answer to any of these
- 2:44questions. And I laughed.
- 2:45I said I'm not surprised because actually most organs, most
- 2:48people who run businesses don't even critically think about
- 2:51these sorts of things. And in fact, the first thing on
- 2:53the list was the ICP. Who is the ideal customer
- 2:56supposed to be running after? Now that is something that the
- 2:58salesperson needs to know. Because if your number one job
- 3:01is to sell and then you resume work 8/30, 9:00 in the morning,
- 3:05but you have no idea about who you're supposed to be going
- 3:07after, then you'll just be faffing about online.
- 3:11You won't know who am I supposed to be talking to if you go into
- 3:14the real world, you won't know, OK, which offices am I supposed
- 3:17to enter? You won't even know, which is
- 3:20why it is the first thing on the list and the most basic thing
- 3:23that I gave her. Because at least if the OGA can
- 3:25say, you know what? The people that we do business
- 3:28with best are men between the ages of 65 and 70 who live in
- 3:34Umohia or you know, whatever. At least as a salesperson, you
- 3:38now have a very clear picture. You now clock it immediately.
- 3:43You now know what to do or where to go in the real world or
- 3:48online to start targeting men who are between the ages of 50
- 3:53to 75, who are based in Umuya or, you know, forgive me, I'm
- 3:57just coming up with some examples.
- 3:59But The thing is, we have to know who the ICP is.
- 4:03So she told me Olga doesn't know, but these are the things
- 4:06that Olga has tried. I said, OK, no problem.
- 4:09So this is what we're going to do and this is the frank
- 4:11conversation that I had with her last night.
- 4:14So I told her, oh, OK, it's almost my turn for the car to
- 4:17get washed. So one moment, let me just pull
- 4:19up over there and then I'll continue this conversation.
- 4:26OK, I'm back. Sorry about that.
- 4:29So it's my turn to get the car washed.
- 4:31So anyways, of course I've had to step out of the car.
- 4:34So I'm sure you guys have noticed that the the noise
- 4:37profile has changed somewhat. You know, there's more noise in
- 4:39the background anyway. So I was like, so I think I was
- 4:47at the part where I was saying there are a couple of key things
- 4:51that those of you who own businesses need to know.
- 4:54I need to be able to advise your sales people on so that they can
- 4:59sell effectively. And one of them is the ICP.
- 5:02And I was having a fair conversation with a sales
- 5:05professional who are struggling, and I could tell that she hadn't
- 5:09received any training from her employers on these sorts of
- 5:13matters. And so I told her, I gave her a
- 5:16list of questions that she needed to ask her Olga.
- 5:19And then based on the answers that Olga will give her, she
- 5:21will now be able to sell effectively.
- 5:24And one of them was the ICP. Who's the ideal customer?
- 5:27Who's the ideal client? Who is the target?
- 5:30Who else? Who are we supposed to be
- 5:32chasing? Who are we supposed to pursue?
- 5:35We need these answers and Olga said he doesn't know.
- 5:40And I'm not surprised because most of Gas, most business
- 5:43owners, they don't have a clear sense of who it is that was
- 5:47supposed to pursue. You just have the product, you
- 5:49have the service, and you're trying to chase down as many
- 5:52people as possible and trying to get business from them.
- 5:55So I now gave her an exercise that she should go and do with
- 5:59Olga. And this is what I advised her.
- 6:02And if you're listening to this podcast episode right now and
- 6:04you've asked your guy that question, who is the ideal
- 6:06customer supposed to be chasing? And our guy doesn't have any
- 6:09information from you for you. Rather, this is the exercise
- 6:13that you have to carry out with your boss.
- 6:15And this is the reason why you are the one who should be
- 6:17responsible for doing this. So this is what I advise that
- 6:23ordinarily you should be your guy who should call you up and
- 6:27give you advice on these sorts of things.
- 6:30But in the situation where or guy has not called you or Guy is
- 6:35not aware of what the ICP is, it is you as a salesperson that has
- 6:40to take responsibility for these sorts of things.
- 6:42And this is the reason why. Because other people in the
- 6:46organization, they can't far about and nothing will happen.
- 6:49People in accounting, they can't far about, you know, they can't
- 6:52misbehave, they can't waste their time.
- 6:54Not in the album, because at least they can pick like 2-3
- 6:57weeks before the end of the year.
- 6:59They will rush and they'll prepare.
- 7:00They'll prepare statement of accounts, people in marketing,
- 7:04they can faff about. They can do whatever they want
- 7:07so long as at the end of the day they produce a pretty Instagram
- 7:10photos or they won't be angry. The people who are supposed to
- 7:14clean the company, those ones who they can faff about so long
- 7:17as they pick two or three hours during the day and they make
- 7:19sure that everywhere is clean, the toilet is clean, you know
- 7:22they can't misbehave. No, nothing will happen but our
- 7:26sales people. We are judged on the results
- 7:30that we bring. How many conversations are we
- 7:33having with customers? How many people are we bringing
- 7:35inside the shop? How many people are we bringing
- 7:38inside the office of the people that we brought to the shop,
- 7:41that we brought to the office or that we're having conversations
- 7:43with, how many people end up ended up becoming paying
- 7:45customers? So for sales people, those of us
- 7:50who have the responsibilities for bringing in revenue, all
- 7:55eyes are on us very harshly, very critically.
- 7:59That's the reason why we have to take the responsibility for
- 8:05performing and for moving our careers forward.
- 8:07And that's why I told her she's a correct.
- 8:08She's a correct. She's a correct babe because
- 8:13ordinarily all guys should pay for these sorts of things.
- 8:17She has reached out to try and get the support that she needs.
- 8:21She's honest that she cannot afford now, she's going to plan
- 8:24towards it later, but she's taking responsibility for
- 8:27developing herself, responsibility for acquiring the
- 8:30information that is going to be able to make her a better
- 8:34salesperson. So you're the one who should
- 8:37take the advantage for these sorts of things.
- 8:40Now, another reason why we should take the advantage of
- 8:43having this conversation with yoga and going through this
- 8:45exercise that I'm going to recommend right now is this.
- 8:49If you go through this exercise with yoga or guy and his
- 8:53business partners, or you know where your guy is a woman or guy
- 8:58and hire business partners, we now quickly see that you in
- 9:02particular, you have sense, you have drive, you have ambition,
- 9:07you have good ideas, you're a correct person to keep around.
- 9:10You are a valuable asset to the organization.
- 9:13When they start seeing you in that light, good things will
- 9:16happen. I can't make any promises that
- 9:19they will double your salary or anything like that, but trust
- 9:21me, good things will happen because you are a valuable asset
- 9:24to have around. So this is the reason why you
- 9:27ought to take the initiative and another reason why I told her
- 9:30she should take the initiative in this conversation and why you
- 9:33should take the initiative in this conversation and this
- 9:36exercise with your guy is because nothing is set in stone.
- 9:42Eventually you're going to leave this organization.
- 9:45And when you do, if you have gotten into the habit of being
- 9:49proactive around these sorts of things in whatever organization,
- 9:53in whatever clique, in whatever setting, in whatever setup that
- 9:56you find yourself in the future, you would have gotten into some
- 10:02habits and some patterns of thinking that will make you
- 10:04extremely resourceful where you're heading to.
- 10:06Because I can tell you, this is Nigeria.
- 10:10People have not seen an employee like you before who is willing
- 10:15to invest time and resources into developing themselves and
- 10:21also willing to engage in conversations with their orgasm
- 10:24with their superiors to make sure that they have all the
- 10:27information that they need to deliver on the revenue goals of
- 10:30the business. I can assure you, people have
- 10:32not seen an employee like you before.
- 10:36So let's not beating around the Bush and let me get straight to
- 10:40what the exercise was. I told her that she was going to
- 10:42have to do three things when she gets back into the office.
- 10:46She said, Olga, please, if you're free, you and I, we need
- 10:50to have a chat. And of course, most organs now
- 10:55don't make money, don't they? And so because of that, trust
- 10:57me, organs always have time for sales people.
- 11:01If somebody in accounting says Olga, we need to see Olga will
- 11:05say, well, you know what, I'm coming.
- 11:06I have to go here. I have to go here.
- 11:08OK, I might be free for this. I might be free for that one.
- 11:11Will you be free? You know?
- 11:12But if a salesperson says, boss, you and I, we need to have a
- 11:15chat, trust me, your guy will say I'm coming to the office.
- 11:20You see me in like 30 minutes. So don't worry, don't be scared.
- 11:24You just tell your guy, our boss, you know, we need to see,
- 11:26there's some things that we need to discuss.
- 11:29Trust me, your guy, he will show at the office or she will show
- 11:33at the office. And so I told her, these are the
- 11:35questions. These are the exercises that
- 11:36you're going to do with yoga. You tell your guy that, look,
- 11:39I'm committed to this organization and I want to see
- 11:43this organization hits its revenue goals.
- 11:46I personally also don't like faffing about.
- 11:49Also want to make sure that I am the best I can be when I'm on
- 11:53this job. And because of this, there's
- 11:55some information that I need to do to be able to complete this
- 12:00job, to do this job. Well, I've gone online, I've
- 12:04asked around, and there's some exercises that we can do that
- 12:08will give us the information that we need to move things
- 12:10forward. So Olga, you are now, we need to
- 12:13figure out the ICP now. And that's what we're going to
- 12:16do. Olga, can you please furnish me
- 12:18the records that we have, the people that have paid US money
- 12:21before to provide our goods or our services, please?
- 12:24Can I see it? This is the whole point of the
- 12:29exercise. When you look at those invoices
- 12:32or when you look at those receipts or when you look at
- 12:34those WhatsApp messages or when you look at those invoices or
- 12:38when you look at those. Whatever it is that you people
- 12:41have that you used to track who has paid you for your products
- 12:45or your services. By the time you start asking
- 12:48your got some information about this guy, about that guy, about
- 12:51this babe, about that babe, about this customer, you will
- 12:55start seeing some similarities in psychographics and in
- 13:01demographics. Now big words, but for those of
- 13:04us who studied what was it called business studies in
- 13:08junior secondary school, remember demographics means
- 13:13qualities like age, sex, heights, occupation, location,
- 13:18you know all those sorts of things.
- 13:20So you will start seeing some similarities.
- 13:22Now people that buy from us are usually a certain age, usually a
- 13:28certain job, usually of a certain income range, usually of
- 13:33a setting this of a setting this of a setting that you will start
- 13:36seeing some patterns emerge. Therefore, those of us who
- 13:40studied business studies again in junior secondary school,
- 13:45remember when we're talking about psychographics,
- 13:47psychographics are hobbies, interests, things that people
- 13:52like, you know, all the soft stuff that people are interested
- 13:56in that you can't quite quantify.
- 13:58So when you start looking at this invoices, this WhatsApp
- 14:02messages, these, whatever it is that you have, you will start
- 14:06noticing some similarities in psychographics that people who
- 14:10buy from us are interested in these sorts of things or that
- 14:13sort of those sorts of things, or they have these kinds of
- 14:16hobbies, or they are drawn to these sorts of issues or they're
- 14:21trying to run away from certain other kinds of issues.
- 14:26This is the beginning of you putting together a picture of
- 14:28who your ideal customer is. When you go through this
- 14:34exercise with yoga, you will now see you will not start having a
- 14:39clearer picture when you show up the next day to the office where
- 14:42you should be spending your time and investing your efforts to
- 14:47start chasing down customers. Because you would have already
- 14:51known that our ideal customer. People who have given us money
- 14:54in the past tend to be either men or women of a certain age
- 14:58who live in a certain part of the city, who are interested in
- 15:01these sorts of things or who don't like those sorts of
- 15:03things, or who run towards these sorts of things or who run away
- 15:07from these sorts of things. You will now know where to
- 15:09invest your time. Let me give you an example.
- 15:15There was a time when my kids were younger, were in traffic,
- 15:20people would stop me all the time and try to sell arts and
- 15:23crafts, sell painting, sell books, sell toys and all kinds
- 15:28of things. And so I asked my wife one day,
- 15:32I said, how come these people always keep trying to sell me
- 15:35stuff about kids? I'm always said, that's easy.
- 15:38And I said, hey, that's easy. How is it because I look like a
- 15:40father? I said, no, it's not that I look
- 15:43like a father. There's a car seat in the back.
- 15:47And then I smiled and I told my wife, yeah, you're actually
- 15:50right. It's that simple.
- 15:53For people who sell children's things in traffic, they know
- 15:58that if you see a dude sitting in a car who has a wedding ring
- 16:01and at the back of the car there's a baby seat, this person
- 16:04most likely has children of a certain age and will be
- 16:07interested in certain kinds of products.
- 16:10That is the reason why these people are coming straight to me
- 16:13out of all the other cars that are stuck in traffic and trying
- 16:17to sell me stuff because they know who their ICP is.
- 16:21They know their ideal customer profile.
- 16:24You see a man, you see a woman, you see a wedding ring, and then
- 16:30you see a baby chair at the back.
- 16:33Go and talk to this person or these.
- 16:36These people. These are the kinds of people
- 16:38who end up buying this or this or that or that.
- 16:43So that was my assignment that I gave to her.
- 16:46Go and talk to yoga, have this exercise, get your transaction
- 16:52history, Try and figure out people who have given you money
- 16:56in the past. You will get a sense of who your
- 16:58ICP is. Then I also told her.
- 17:01Now Olga, between you and me, now tell me who are the kind of
- 17:05people that you want to pay money to us for the product or
- 17:09service? People who you think will be
- 17:10sweet clients, that is also an important question to ask
- 17:19because you know what people say now?
- 17:22Now when the how do you say it? When the available is, I mean
- 17:27when the desirable is unavailable, the available
- 17:30becomes desirable or something like that.
- 17:32So sometimes you actually do want, oh sorry, they're calling
- 17:39me at the car park 1 moment. Let me pause this and I'll be
- 17:41right back. OK, I'm back.
- 17:46Sorry about the constant switching back and forth.
- 17:49There was quite a queue of about like four or five cars when I
- 17:52got here. So I didn't think they were
- 17:54going to be, you know, this quick when I started the podcast
- 17:57episodes. But anyway, they're not with my
- 17:59car. So I'm now back in the car.
- 18:01So hopefully we shouldn't have too much noise, you know,
- 18:03trailers going past and all that because I just wound up the
- 18:06windows. So let me finish this and then
- 18:08I'll head off on my appointment. OK, now I said.
- 18:15Now the second exercise that she needs to do with our guy is
- 18:17this. She needs to now ask our gather.
- 18:20OK, we've looked at the transaction history.
- 18:23We've been able to figure out some commonalities in
- 18:26demographic demographics and psychographics.
- 18:29We now have a physical representation of who our
- 18:32customers are, who they are, how old they are, whether they're
- 18:36male or female, where they live, their jobs, what they're
- 18:40interested in, what they like, what they don't like.
- 18:43Psychographics are important because if we're targeting
- 18:45people online with online advertising, that is the
- 18:48information that we're going to put in.
- 18:52So the next part was not have a frank conversation with Olga and
- 18:57say, look, Olga, now who are the people that you will like to pay
- 19:01off some sweet correct money? The reason why that question is
- 19:08next is because sometimes you have a dream client you want to
- 19:11go after, but because you can't reach them now, you now settle
- 19:14for, you know, some certain classes of people, the one that
- 19:17is in your front. Now that's not bad and you can
- 19:21be using the customer that is in your front to be making good
- 19:24revenue while you're now strategizing and planning for
- 19:28the other customer that you actually want to get.
- 19:31Now business owners, we all pass through this because back in my,
- 19:36excuse me, our wedding photography days, please no
- 19:40disrespect when I'm talking about these sorts of things, I'm
- 19:43not saying some classes of people are better than others.
- 19:47I'm just trying to talk about economic realities here.
- 19:51So I'm not trying to say some people are better than the
- 19:52others. Now, I appreciate all the brides
- 19:55that were Niger based that I did business with.
- 19:57I really, really appreciate them, you know, and I love them
- 20:00because they were responsible for me getting a career.
- 20:08Building a career in wedding photography.
- 20:11Even the very first bride that paid me only 50,000 naira, I
- 20:14appreciate her and I love her because she's an integral part
- 20:17of my story. That is how I got started.
- 20:20Now, of course, eventually I figured out that that 50K that I
- 20:23charged like Omar was not worth it 'cause I charged 50K and then
- 20:27I spent 47,000 naira in fulfilment.
- 20:31If you charge 50K, you spend 47 K.
- 20:33Can you say that that's, that's a good thing if I want to give
- 20:37mom CD gist because by that time I wasn't, I wasn't married when
- 20:40I gave mom CD gist. Mom, she said, look, you would
- 20:41have been better off just staying at home and just
- 20:44transferring 5K to the bride. I said just, you know, take and
- 20:47help with your wedding. But still, I love her because
- 20:53she was an integral part of my story.
- 20:57But at the time, the people who paid me best usually happened to
- 21:04be Niger, in diaspora. So the babe lives abroad, the
- 21:09husband lives abroad, maybe their parents are here and the
- 21:14parents are the ones who are organizing things.
- 21:16Somehow the bride and the groom get in touch with me.
- 21:19They hook me up with Mumsy and Popsy or they hook me up a
- 21:21wedding planner. And those were the kind of jobs
- 21:24that I like to do. That was, you know, sweet, sweet
- 21:26money. And that was the first time that
- 21:29me and my brother collectively charged 1M for a job.
- 21:33Negotiate back and forth, ended up paying I think about 880 or
- 21:37870, I can't remember. It was this sort of thing, Niger
- 21:41in diaspora. So whether in the UK or America
- 21:46or Dubai, the clients, the people that I loved that I would
- 21:50like to pursue were all those people based in diaspora.
- 21:53But Please remember, I am not saying that people who live in
- 21:58diaspora are better than those of us who are home based.
- 22:01I'm not saying that. I'm just talking about some
- 22:03economic realities here. Now for people in diaspora,
- 22:08they're used to paying maybe like let's say 10,000 for a
- 22:14wedding photographer now maybe like $10,000 or $5000.
- 22:19So by the time they're talking to we, well, I'm no more in the
- 22:22business. But if I'm still in the business
- 22:24by the time they're talking to we local photographers over
- 22:27here, and then we charge what is the equivalent of maybe $1000 or
- 22:33$2000, and they see the quality of our work.
- 22:36For them, they're like what? This is a deal.
- 22:39Those people, they pay quick, quick, quick, no hassles because
- 22:43they know that if we're going to do this wedding in California or
- 22:47whatever, we'll pay $10,000 or $5000, cheapest for a wedding
- 22:52photographer. But we're going home to do this
- 22:55thing. And I found a photographer for
- 22:58$1000. Let me just pay now quickly, let
- 23:02me tie this thing down. So I'm just talking about harsh
- 23:05economic realities here. So I'm not saying that Nigerian
- 23:09diaspora is better than Niger homegrown.
- 23:12We're all the same. We're all equally in status.
- 23:16It's just that you know, because of what do you call is it
- 23:19purchasing parity? Because of purchasing parity,
- 23:22they can happen to they, they can afford more stuff with the
- 23:27dollars and the pounds that they have.
- 23:32So where was I? What I'm just trying to say is I
- 23:37understand. I've lived through it and lots
- 23:39of business owners, we all live through it because we understand
- 23:41that this is the customer I have in front of me, but the
- 23:44customers I love, they're in front.
- 23:46And This is why. So still we also have to sit
- 23:49down and do that exercise. So yes, yoga, ooga, the
- 23:53customers that you truly, truly love, they want them to be
- 23:56transferring big money into the account to Bam.
- 23:59Who are those customers? And then we start writing it
- 24:01down. That is the second exercise that
- 24:08gives us food for thought for the future.
- 24:11How are we going to start targeting these people?
- 24:14How are we going to start running after these people?
- 24:17Now, when I asked that question, she said, oh, she has asked her
- 24:19OGA that question before. And what the OGA said was
- 24:23government parastatals. And I said good, good that he
- 24:26asked, but I told her that look, that's still too wide.
- 24:29Government parastatal can be anything from CBN to NNPC to
- 24:36ministry of our Greek that is too wide.
- 24:40So you need to have the conversation or a guy again and
- 24:42he needs to narrow it down. When you say government
- 24:45parastatals, which kind of government parastatals?
- 24:49Is it the government parastatals that deal in extractive
- 24:51industry? In that case, you're talking
- 24:53about Ministry of Mining and Ministry of Works and Ministry
- 24:58of you know, all or not. Or is it government parastatals
- 25:02that are financial regulators? In that case, you will now be
- 25:05thinking of Ministry of Finance, you'll be thinking of CBN,
- 25:10you'll be thinking of SEC Securities and Exchange COM
- 25:13Commission. But organ needs to narrow it
- 25:16down. You can't just say government
- 25:17parastatals is too wide. If as a sales person, my job is
- 25:21to go after government parastatals and I come to the
- 25:23office tomorrow, 8:30, I was supposed to be chasing
- 25:26government parastate house that is too wide.
- 25:28I'll spend a lot of time fuffing about and talking to the wrong
- 25:31people. But as a salesperson, you tell
- 25:35me that we're supposed to be chasing government parastate
- 25:39house and people government parastate house that are
- 25:43regulators in the financial sectors.
- 25:46When I come and sit down tomorrow morning, 8:00 AM, first
- 25:49thing I'll do is I'll Google government regulators, that
- 25:53government regulators, financial sectors, Nigeria, a list will
- 25:56come out and then I'll start tackling that list.
- 26:00It'll be easier for me to do my job because the goal line is now
- 26:02clear. So I told her, go back, have
- 26:05that other conversation, make sure that he narrows it down.
- 26:09Don't just let him off the hook. Don't let orgas say government
- 26:12past data and then you leave it like that.
- 26:14You need to know, are you going to be chasing ministry of our
- 26:17Greek? Why are you going to be chasing
- 26:19Ministry of Finance? Are you going to be chasing CBN
- 26:25or are you going to be chasing I don't know where you get the
- 26:29picture you need to know? So that was the second exercise.
- 26:33Number one, look at your transaction history to get the
- 26:36demographics and psychographics of who your ideal clients are #2
- 26:41ask your Olga, what is the wish list?
- 26:44Where are we going? Where would you like us to get
- 26:46some big money from? But then narrow it down.
- 26:49Don't be vague. So just like me back then, I was
- 26:53thinking Nigerian diaspora, but Nigerian diaspora is too broad.
- 26:56I would have helped myself and my brother if I was more
- 27:00specific. Nigerians living in diaspora,
- 27:04particularly in America or Canada, who live in this region
- 27:11or this region or this county or that county or that county that
- 27:15is specific. That gives someone an idea of
- 27:20what kind of advertising campaigns are we going to run,
- 27:25what kind of content are we going to create to start
- 27:29attracting these sorts of people.
- 27:33So that's the second exercise. Then the third exercise, forgive
- 27:39me, I'm running from memory and right now, maybe because of
- 27:42this, all this up and down, up and down.
- 27:43I can't remember what the third exercise was, but I know that I
- 27:46told her to do three things. OK, let me see.
- 27:50So #1 transaction history #2 I remember the third.
- 27:57The third exercise was this. And I'm telling all of you now
- 28:00that are involved in sales and marketing.
- 28:04AI tools are here, they are free, they are on our phones,
- 28:07they are computers. Why are you guys not taking
- 28:10advantage of them? If we had these things when my
- 28:16brother and I started in business, we'll be certified big
- 28:19boys now. Because if I had charge GBT then
- 28:24and I was trying to fool around on charge GBT to figure out my
- 28:27ideal customer profile, I would have realized that I was talking
- 28:31in 2 broad terms and that my marketing was ineffective
- 28:34because of that. Trying to target Nigerians in
- 28:39diaspora on a Facebook advertising campaign or an
- 28:44Instagram advertising campaign that is too broad.
- 28:49All these tools that have helped me narrow it down.
- 28:52So I told her the third exercise is go and tell ChatGPT or go and
- 28:57tell Google Gemini or go and tell whatever AI tool that you
- 29:01like. Go and tell them.
- 29:02I'm a salesperson. I work for this kind of company.
- 29:05The company sells this. My bosses ideally would like us
- 29:12to target this, this, this, this that, but these are the kinds of
- 29:15people that we have done business with in the past.
- 29:19With this information provided, give me 5 suggestions, 10
- 29:24suggestions of who you think our ideal customer, our ideal
- 29:28customer profile is or who our best customer should be.
- 29:32Question mark send, it will give you some ideas.
- 29:36The ones that make sense keep. The ones that don't make sense,
- 29:39delete. And then I now told her this is
- 29:42what you will do. You will now sit down with your
- 29:44guy. You have done 3 exercises.
- 29:47Number one is transaction history, trading history to try
- 29:51and figure out who are the people that have given us money
- 29:53in the past. Exercise 2 was wish list.
- 29:56Who are the people that we would love to transfer money to us in
- 29:59the future. Exercise 3 was to use AI tools
- 30:03for brainstorming. Compare these answers and I told
- 30:07her definitely know how. Know how you will see an
- 30:09overlap. The people that have paid you
- 30:13money before. Some of it will overlap with the
- 30:16category of people that organ wants to transfer big money to
- 30:20the business account in the future.
- 30:21And then some of it will overlap with some of those suggestions
- 30:25that ChatGPT or Google Gemini would make.
- 30:29That overlap is what I advised her.
- 30:32That is where you should start spending all your time to start
- 30:35finding customers. It's not a very scientific
- 30:40process, but trust me, when it comes to sales, there's plenty
- 30:45of trial and error. But this is not a bad way to
- 30:47start the trial and error. The parts that overlaps hit that
- 30:51part hard. You start seeing resources use
- 30:53results. You start making progress after
- 30:57a while. But remember that sales is not
- 30:59like magic. It doesn't mean because you
- 31:01start talking to people today, they will start transferring
- 31:04next week. I mean it depends on the
- 31:06product, the service and the, what's it called, sales cycle?
- 31:13Yes, because different products and services have different
- 31:15sales cycles. Now that I'm in the consulting
- 31:18space, it is possible for me to talk to somebody January 1st and
- 31:23then by January 18th they have transferred money.
- 31:26As a wedding photographer. No, that was not really
- 31:29possible, except if it's an emergency.
- 31:31As a wedding photographer, typically it took about two or
- 31:33three months. Somebody will call me up in
- 31:36January because the wedding is like that, kind of March, April.
- 31:40So the sales cycle for wedding photography was that kind. 2-3
- 31:44months. For consulting, it's different.
- 31:48Somebody can hit me up now and they can pay money next week.
- 31:51Shorter sales cycles. So it depends on the product, it
- 31:55depends on the service, it depends on the culture, the
- 31:57context, the traditions. It all depends.
- 32:02So if your product or service has on average a three month
- 32:07sales cycle and you go to this exercise and you start executing
- 32:11in January, God willing, good things should start to happen,
- 32:16should start to reflect in your bank account.
- 32:19By Aranda King March April So these are the exercises that we
- 32:26go through to be able to figure out our ideal customer profile.
- 32:31This is the exercise that I went through with the lady yesterday.
- 32:35And for those of you who would love to engage my services or
- 32:39the services of someone like me, but you cannot afford to yet,
- 32:43that is not a problem. We're still here.
- 32:45I'm still here. I'm not going anywhere.
- 32:48And I put out these podcast episodes, you know, 2-3,
- 32:51sometimes 5-6 times a week. So I'm not going anywhere.
- 32:56So don't worry. There's free resources here that
- 32:59you can take advantage of. You know, continue if you feel
- 33:03like money is the problem. When you have enough money, no
- 33:06problem, you hit me up. You know, I will continue from
- 33:08there. So I'm making today's podcast
- 33:15episode for people like you who find yourselves in that
- 33:19situation. While I talk to you, Olga,
- 33:23follow these exercises. When you do, you'll find that
- 33:26your honor girl become five and six.
- 33:29You'll say that this is a correct guy or this is a correct
- 33:31babe. You'll start to before you know
- 33:34it, you know, don't be treating you like salesperson Again, you
- 33:38kind of become more like business associate, especially
- 33:41when you start delivering the results.
- 33:47So if nothing else, when at least you know who the target
- 33:51is, you'll be able to be much more effective when you show up
- 33:54at work tomorrow, 8:30, 9/30, 9:00 because at least you now
- 34:00know who you should be chasing after.
- 34:01Because before you guys have just been using idea up and
- 34:04down. And if you are in this
- 34:06situation, don't worry, don't feel bad.
- 34:08That's just how most Nigerian business owners are.
- 34:10And I've given you my own personal example.
- 34:12In the beginning, I was just using idea.
- 34:15The people that were on ground, this is what they were paying
- 34:17me. The people that I loved in
- 34:19diaspora, this is how much do I pay me because of that.
- 34:22I love diaspora but in my mind, if anybody had asked me who is
- 34:26your ideal customer, your ideal customer profile, who is the
- 34:30main person we should be chasing, I would have just said
- 34:32Nigerians in diaspora. But as to White Russia, that's
- 34:36Nigerians in diaspora, Korea, that's also Nigerians in
- 34:39diaspora. Canada is also Nigerians in
- 34:41diaspora. But we have to narrow it down
- 34:45anyway, 30 minutes. I think I have spoken more than
- 34:49enough. I think you guys get the
- 34:50picture. So if today has already finished
- 34:54at the time you're listening to this podcast, no problem.
- 34:57Just like I said, tomorrow you call your Olga, you say Olga,
- 35:01please, I'd like to see you. There's something I orders to
- 35:04discuss regarding sales. I have some ideas about how we
- 35:07can improve sales. Trust me, you know, guy will
- 35:10make time for that meeting because that's the reason why he
- 35:13has hired you. And then you called him up and
- 35:16say you have some ideas. Just he'll be happy because he
- 35:20comes to work every day. She comes to work every day.
- 35:22And they're frustrated that look, I have 5 sales people here
- 35:24and I just come and see their faces every day and they're just
- 35:28jesting. They're not doing anything.
- 35:29They're irritants. They're irritating my life.
- 35:32So the fact that one of you say, oh God, please come, I have some
- 35:34ideas, I want to get your input. You'll be very happy.
- 35:37She'll be very happy. They will show for the meeting.
- 35:40So tomorrow, 8:30, 9:00, 9/30, call your guy or guy will make
- 35:48time for you. Sit down, start having this
- 35:50conversation with them. And trust me with diligence,
- 35:54with hard work, and with prayers.
- 35:56Your life is not going to see. It's not going to be the same
- 35:58again. And thank you for those of you
- 36:00who have been reaching out to me, who tell me that I've been
- 36:03listening to your episodes. I've applied this, this, this,
- 36:05this and this. And this is how much it has
- 36:08benefited my life or benefited my business.
- 36:11I'm only start sharing some of those testimonials.
- 36:13I've been telling people that, look, I like what you say and I
- 36:17really, really love the results, but I need people to believe me
- 36:21that this stuff works. So I want it to be in your own
- 36:24voice, not me saying I was talking to somebody and these
- 36:28are the results. Especially the copper who was
- 36:35getting 35,000 Alawi and she said based on the advice that I
- 36:39had given, she had now hit three months of earning over 100,000
- 36:44naira. Some of you will say 100,000
- 36:46naira, that's more. What can we do with that?
- 36:48Yes, I agree 100K is more, but for someone who is starting at
- 36:53the level of 35 K, you're now doing 345 months of 100K.
- 36:59That is minus Yonallawi. It's a big thing for them.
- 37:03So for us, 100K is not going to solve our problem, but for them
- 37:07it's something. And then it's another guy,
- 37:10Alawi, also 35K. In fact, that's the one I'm
- 37:13going to play first. And then for him, he how much
- 37:18was it based on stuff he listened to in a couple of
- 37:22episodes? In fact, in the audio, he
- 37:23referred to the specific episodes that he listened to.
- 37:26He went ahead, he put on an offer, 27 people took him up on
- 37:30it and he ended up getting 97,000.
- 37:33Now, of course, 97,000 is not going to solve the problem for
- 37:36most people, but for somebody who has been living on Allawi,
- 37:40remember we're talking about NYC people.
- 37:42For somebody who has been living on Allawi OF35K to now say that
- 37:46there's an extra 97 in the bank account is something.
- 37:51But anyway, thank you for those of you who apply this advice
- 37:53that I give out for free and you reach out to say these are the
- 37:57results. Just know that I'll still, I'll
- 38:00be happy and I'll still encourage you, but just know I'm
- 38:03waiting to give you an assignment that you know what
- 38:05all this wonderful stuff we've we've spoken about.
- 38:07Please record it in audio the same way I record the podcast
- 38:11and just send it to me as an MP3 so I can put it up on the
- 38:14podcast. So from next week, I'm going to
- 38:16start sharing some of these testimonials.
- 38:18So that's it. And that's all for today.
- 38:21Remember if you would love to connect with me then call me,
- 38:24SMS me or WhatsApp me on 0806466 2140.
- 38:31Thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 38:33I will catch you same time, same place next week in your
- 38:36headphones or in your speakers.