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Your Brain, Your Rules: Beyond the Diagnosis with Dr. Robert Melillo |286 · Bomb Life

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just your label, but what's happening with your actual brain?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that impacting your body in certain ways?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it impact your ability to do school?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it impact your ability to do certain cognitive skills?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there physical signs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, your body is tilted one way or your face looks asymmetric one way or all of it means something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we can put together a program to individualize, change that over the course of a period of time, and work on all those things together, ultimately, to create the ultimate version of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I try to change anybody, just trying to take away your weaknesses and build up your strengths, and make you the most balanced optimal version of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And anybody can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Bond Life Podcast where fitness, vines, and real talk collide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is it just about workouts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about transforming your body, mind, and life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get ready for unfiltered conversations, expert advice, and the motivation you need to level up in every way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, everyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Bomb Life Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Melissa Volga, your host.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a really, really good episode today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm biased.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I said about every single episode, but today is very unique and mind blowing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is going to get you thinking, especially if you yourself or anyone in your life has any type of condition with ADHD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Autism, OCD, ticks, dyslexia, anxiety, depression, both children and adults you are going to want to keep listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a whole reason why I am pushing this episode out now versus later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it takes us a couple of months to get an episode out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just all depends on the lineup and I'm like, I want this one out before the madness of school and everything truly takes off because you guys, this is all about the brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you are going to want to hear it, you are going to want to read, you are going to want to take in all of the information that we're giving you today because there is hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I absolutely love that this episode is all about hope and understanding and knowing that you are not broken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing wrong with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a reason that our brain does and thinks and works the way it does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love episodes like this that makes us feel validated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes us feel seen and heard and that we know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My gosh, change is possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys know me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to this podcast long enough, you know that you do not have a death sentence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Change is completely possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can
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[SPEAKER_01]: heal everything in anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are willing, if you're open, if you take the right action steps, if you just keep listening and never do anything, like you're going to stay exactly where you're at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't want that for anyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want everyone to listen every single episode and when it's done, they go, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of not living to my best potential, my highest potential, living my best life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys, you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise you, you can do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just takes time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just takes courage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's listening to a message over and over again, but just in a different way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so maybe you listened to last week's episode and it spoke to you a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're going to listen to this week's episode and it spoke to you a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you then you take one more action stop and then you get one more closer to change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want for all of you that right there and I know I'm someone that's I don't know people consider me like oh, you know I got my head in the clouds and Melissa She's always so just motivational and she's so so happy and she's always so you know like positive and sure but at the same time know
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have done a lot of work to get where I'm at and overcome a lot of the shit that I've had to go through and I have just determined, I'm determined and I am on a mission to never settle, never let anyone out settle if they want help and to keep reminding all of you that you deserve to live your best life possible and I'm talking with your body, with your mind, with your brain, with your food, everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you haven't taken steps to create any change yet, I'm going to keep challenging you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to keep asking you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why haven't you booked a call with me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why haven't you changed three a grocery shop yet?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why haven't you used that gym membership?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all of these little things I want you to start asking yourself, why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why haven't you started therapy yet?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some of you listening are badasses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You are a client of mine or you're someone that's doing your own thing, but you, you know, you're going to the gym and you're doing things, but you know the stuff that you're putting off and I just want you to pause and be like, why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why haven't I done that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Start uncovering it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take that pause, start learning from that pause and really dive in because change is possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to have the right steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have the right tools.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have the right plan and in all of that might seem hard and difficult, but it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise you it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just action stuff that actually makes it all easier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And today's episode with Dr. Robert Melio, he's a world-renowned clinical professor, brain researcher, bestselling author, podcaster, dad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets it in this episode is going to go right along with all of this and help you understand how the brain works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a world-renowned expert in brain health and specializing in childhood and adult neurological disorders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A clinician, professor, brain researcher, and bestselling author of Disconnected Kids, he focuses on ADHD autism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OCD ticks anxiety and other developmental issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Millio is dedicated to bridging brain function, behavior, and physical health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his innovative multimodal approach, the Millial Method has transformed thousands of lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please listen as we explore his groundbreaking work and this unique insight into brain and the right brain and the left brain and how it all works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys make sure you check out his podcast too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has two, the Millial Method Podcast and the right brain podcast right as in WRITE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are going to be blown away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, everyone enjoy the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everyone, welcome to the bomb life podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Today I have Dr. Robert Milillo on welcome to the show, Dr. Robert.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited to have you on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got introduced to, I don't know, while back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, what do you think of him for the show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yes, please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You cover so many different things because you're a leading expert in neurological conditions like ADHD, autism, OCD, ticks, dyslexia, anxiety, depression.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is just like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: everywhere right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything that I just listed off, I just feel like this affects someone listening right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, yes, that's my daughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my son.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my granddaughter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it affects everyone right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want you to think about something and kind of speaks to my approach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of all those things, you hear all this about anxiety, depression, ADHD, and you have people around you that have these labels and are struggling in certain ways, but also maybe amazing in other ways, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet has anybody, do you have any idea of what is actually happening in the brain and in any of those things?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not a clue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not, not a clue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think anyone else does either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they, I don't think they understand either like, like, oh, I've ADHD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So give me this medication because then that's going to fix my brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact of matter is that most doctors that give those diagnosis have no idea what it actually is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what, you know, for me, it's all about it's always been thirty years of trying to understand, you know, what do we mean when we say this or, you know, what is actually happening in the brain?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And because
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[SPEAKER_00]: To be able to change it, you really can't change it, or really improve it, or help it, or balance it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't know what the problem is, and I work with peer stuff too, like nine speaking autism and schizophrenia and PTSD and bipolar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, you know, you want to help people, but you can't help them if you don't understand what the problem is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's where my research is unique and work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not only have I, you know, studied it and clinically worked with it, but, you know, I published over a hundred scientific papers on these topics where we've really done the brain imaging and the studies and the tests and we proven that it can be changed as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think people are getting that information right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people are just like getting the label.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My kids acting and behaving this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeling this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They get a label that go to the doctor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the meds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe therapy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like, no, this is what I have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the label.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to live the rest of my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a lot of people, they're looking for a label because it validates, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it validates them that, okay, I'm struggling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not my fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my disorder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And part of that is true, but it also in some ways, many people then are like, okay, but I'm told I can't do anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to just accept it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to accept it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and that's kind of the approach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can take medication to be, but you know, maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But none of that is true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we can change things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this whole neurodivergent movement has really raised questions about what do we mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are certain traits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are certain personality traits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of the, you know, like almost anybody on the autism spectrum is a genius in certain things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even the ones that don't speak, is the ones that don't speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you explain that where certain areas of the brain are incredible and other areas with struggling and you know, and the idea that we can't change it for the better without like don't take away people's gifts, but just take away their anxiety or their stress or their lack of attention, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The things that they struggle with and that can absolutely be done in every single one of these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And medication doesn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It only manage the symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some people are resistant to that because they want to just say, OK, I'm just accepting this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing I can do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not my fault.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just who I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But some people want to change it or would like to not have struggles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that you said like the superpower part because I was diagnosed, you know, back before was even like a thing with ADHD and spend ten minutes with me and you'll probably see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have, I feel like I have a superpower and they did try to put me on medication.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like my senior year high school and no one wanted to take the time to help me just figure out how my brain works, how I needed to be in a classroom and learn different than other students, you know, and when I
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[SPEAKER_01]: did start medication.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it made me a whole different human and I hated it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt almost like my superpowers were taken from me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love now that I've gone my entire life without it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've learned how my brain works, how I can support it, how I can learn to love like the the quirks about myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also I love to knowing that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a functional successful adult and when other parents, they're like, oh man, my son has this, my daughter has this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, that's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can we make this like a positive thing and not a negative thing and like labeling your child this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I appreciate you saying that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this episode today is going to give people a lot of hope too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, you know, all of that is positive and finding ways and accepting and obviously all of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But even the way you're thinking of it, like ADHD, there are different types of ADHD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them can be completely opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not the same thing at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Completely different parts of the brain completely different neurotransmitters, but they're all labeled under ADHD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can have a person that is a super creative, you know, talented person, very social, very emotional, reads other people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: has social anxiety is too emotional but can be like incredibly talented in different ways but may struggle a little bit with doing details and studying and may have dyslexia and may have a learning disability or may find it really slow reading or you know hard to really motivate themselves to do things that are mundane or detail get the big picture and that's labeled as ADHD that's actually type one ADHD maybe
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the classic ADHD is the opposite where we have a child who might be actually really good academically and very bright, even though they can't pay attention for very long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They might be very impulsive, very physically hyperactive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They may be socially inept, not really feel, not really be as in touch with their own emotions and maybe a little bit obsessive and compulsive in certain ways and a little linear and logical and pretty good with math and science and has maybe too much dopamine going on in their brain and they're labeled with ADHD, but that might be type two or type three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Completely different parts of the brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Completely different issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the treatment is completely different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so either way, you can go and say, well, you know, I learned how to learn if I can't learn through details or if I can't read and I have to learn auditory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the way I have to learn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the actual truth is, no, we can fix any weaknesses you have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can actually get rid of those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to learn how to come and say,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can actually create it so that you're better than the average person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're dyslexic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can get you to read better than the average person without losing your incredible ability to comprehend what you read, which is better than most people are ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is where I come from on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is my frustration because people go, well, I'm ADHD and I'm like, okay, well, you're completely different than your person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you think the same compensations and the same treatment,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're missing something here and that there's a right brain OCD and a left brain OCD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's there and they're completely different approaches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why understanding what the actual problem is, what the root causes and how it relates to even things like food sensitivities and gluten sensitivity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Examine, autoimmune issues or chronic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all of that is all related to all starts in the brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so when you get a patient, where do you start?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is like, take me through the process of how you start unraveling this with someone?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing is I want to understand, well, you know, you come to me with an ADHD label.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean by that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Explain that to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You come to me and say, I'm depressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that look like to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people lump anxiety and depression.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, completely different networks in the brain, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I wanted to stand, what are your strengths?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you really good at?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the people that end up with imbalances in their brain and brain development, first of all, all these things starting brain development, you said, you know, this was as a young kid in high school, but you had issues probably going back to as early as you can remember, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why didn't it start?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the root cause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One is your born gifted in an area of your brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now with the label of ADHD, I don't know whether that's areas of your right brain or the left brain, but some of them are gifted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And because of that, if something alters, if that area of your brain that's really strong comes online too early or at the wrong time, or stays on too long,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can hinder growth and development in other areas of your brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it can lead to these developmental imbalances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the root cause of virtually every mental health issue in children and adults.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know that ninety percent at least of adult mental health issues all starting childhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It also starts in childhood with growth and development of the brain, even before you're born.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There could have been factors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were a breed, if you had the cord wrapped around your neck, if you had a C section, all of those things alter it can affect your brain development.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that might accentuate your strengths, which you get from your family, these are traits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're creative and musical or artistic, somebody else in your family is, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get that from your dad or your grandmother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're really good, let's say analytical and you're, you know, having engineering type brain, you have somebody in your family that's an engineer or professor or a mathematician and those are traits that load the, you know, give you these advanced and you're going to be better than they were most likely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's too strong and it comes online too early and it affects the way you're developing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes your brain kind of go off track and then it keeps on going off track and then at a certain point it may peak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might peak when you're five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might peak this imbalance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My peak when you're ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might peak when you're in high school and you need to get treatment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in schizophrenia, it shows up in the twenties, bipolar, it may show up in your thirties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, it was already started a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you do have unique strengths.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can lean on that to compensate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can be a really functional person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you also have struggles that are real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the idea is, you don't have to have those struggles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get rid of those struggles without losing your gift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so is this where your method comes into play?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this I?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because everything that you're saying and like as you're talking, I'm just trying to like think and go back and I've had conversations about this before and I did as a child as young child, I had a lot of like worry and anxiety and things that got stirred up in me way too young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you said something maybe something was activated or like
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, came into play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to deal with two young of an age.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bingo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm sitting here thinking as you're talking, I'm like, yeah, he's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I know about this personally not just because of my work and my research, but because what started me on this was my own kids and my own children's issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all three of my kids had different labels and struggles, but they're all uniquely gifted in different ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of because of my wife, not because of me, but like granted, it's my daughter, you know, we do a podcast on this because of the things that she struggled with that I helped her with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she was basically as a young kid again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had a lot of anxiety and she didn't tell anybody about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was a wonderful child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She looked so happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was so gifted in certain areas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we didn't even know she hid a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she would have fears at night that I was going to die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife was going to die and so therefore she wouldn't sleep at night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had social anxiety over people judging her and not liking her and feeling overwhelmed by other people's emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She also struggled a little bit with readings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was borderline dyslexic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She struggled with basic reading and memory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her handwriting was terrible, spelling was terrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she started singing when she was born and she started writing unbelievable songs at like the age of nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if she was like this writing genius, she struggled with the reading and basic writing, but she could write a whole song in her head when she was nine, not knowing how to read music or play music.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's one of the up-and-coming top singer songwriters in Nashville right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what she does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody in Nashville's like her, kind of what you described.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These creative geniuses, this overactive right brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And with that musical genius, that creative genius, that, you know, comedy acting, writing songs, performing with that also comes right brain emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: sadness, shame and embarrassment guilt, fear of rejection, that the right-brain wants people to love them and wants them to protect them, and the right-brain is all driven by human social connection, and then being able to regulate our emotions if you're really strong in your right-brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then that right-brain those gifts might also make those emotions too strong or it makes you too aware of other people's emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of this happens subconsciously and you're reading all this stuff and it's coming into you and it creates a stress and it creates anxiety, sense of danger or the fear of being embarrassed or people judging you because they're gonna reject you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's strong and that's almost everybody in Nashville has that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like listening to you going and I can relate to so many things that you're saying about your daughter and like the areas I'm gifted in but then where I struggle in and everything and I'm like, oh my God, I could be as good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and that's where my wife, when my daughter finally, she really didn't tell a lot of this to us until really like high school college.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my, like, oh yeah, I was just like that when I was a kid, you know, but my wife, you know, was able to, was in as severe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my wife also didn't have that my wife is an unbelievable artist, but she doesn't have the musical ability that my daughter had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, so there's different strengths that she has and differences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that's the whole thing is that a lot of people also will talk about how they struggle with, you know, learning disabilities and self-esteem issues and judge themselves way too harshly and feel like everybody else is judging them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when we look at these things like depression, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the left brain generates primarily three emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your happiness, pride,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and anger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those are we consider positive emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The real right brain generates sadness, fear, sense of danger, shame and embarrassment guilt, but also rejection, sensitivity, but also empathy and love and you know, real like compassion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if we look at what's depression, if we have too much sadness,
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[SPEAKER_00]: combined with guilt and shame, and reduced joy and pride, that's the definition of major depressive disorder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the answer?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer is to stimulate the right brain and to activate those networks that are undirective and inhibit the ones that are overactive and balance raising up your joy and pride and motivation decreasing sadness and shame and guilt and a second low self-esteem and getting you to a better place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What causes the imbalance in the first place?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What causes that left brain and all that to reach a higher level than the right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Partly it's the gift of the right brain, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's so good at something, naturally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when when we're doing these, because we have this podcast now where we interview some of the best singer songwriter is or we just recently, you know, interviewed two of the top people that were on American Idol.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amy Russell, who is Loretta Lynn's daughter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She talked about her struggles with bulimia, which bulimia is a classic right-brain dominant left-brain deficit neurology, anorexia is the opposite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, even talking about things like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're completely different eating disorders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we also had this guy named Thunderstorm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who was on the most recent American Idol.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they both talked about, and he talked about how, you know, he grew up homeless and, you know, he was suicidal at some points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, many of them struggle with self-loading, self-esteem issues, even though they're unbelievably talented individuals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there are many of them talk about how, you know, when they're writing that song, that great, like, Emmy talked about writing that song, Skinny, about being bleemic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How, you know, when she wrote it, it was such an emotional thing and that when she sang it, she saw the impact it had on people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But she said in the interview, she said, you know, but you can only write so many of those songs because there's a price you pay and that price you pay is you dig up all those emotions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all of those emotions that you're writing about, you're bringing them to the forefront because as you activate that right brain network that gives you the ability to write these songs and come up with the melody, you're also activating those same emotions and that pushing down the other side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at a point, it gets too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like my daughter will talk about how after she writes like a great song,
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[SPEAKER_00]: She then crashes for a few days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like this bipolar thing where then she starts to doubt, well, is this song really that good or maybe everybody's going to hate it and maybe nobody likes it and she can't she doesn't want to really interact with people for a few days and it's this because the brain is dynamic and we can create these imbalances by how we use it, but most of it is superimposed on our natural strengths and weaknesses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, how crazy I'm sure people are listening, like, how crazy do you feel when this happens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have any understanding of what you're talking about, like, because, yeah, I've experienced the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, wow, there's something wrong with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I go and do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I feel like crap the next couple of days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I love that you're mapping this out for us, because it kind of takes the crazy away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not broken.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not something wrong with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have figured out and can see what really is happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why at a certain point, my daughter came to me and said, Dad, you know, I want to do this podcast with you because, you know, you've taught me so much and helped me so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody I know dining Nashville, I'm friends with and I write with, they all struggle with the same stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I tell them about your work and they're like fascinated by it and they're like, please tell me more because nobody is explaining anything to them and nobody helping them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all feel like they're crazy and broken and you know, and so she said, I want to let them know that there's a reality there's neural science to this and that with that there's also things that you can do that can change it and that can make it better and that it's partly because you're so talented and gift
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[SPEAKER_00]: that this is, so it takes away a lot of the shame in the guilt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I just, this woman, this one singer, songwriter, Emmie, Emmie Zink.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she is unbelievable singer songwriters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She also plays guitar for Laney Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's one of the best good female guitar players in the business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just, you know, a great person and we used to interview her and she was talking about how, but to do daily life routines from her, like finding where her keys are, you know, like cleaning her room, like doing basic things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, and I feel like an idiot, like, everybody else seems like they can do these basic things and I can't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, realizing that, yeah, but I said to her, but would you give up your talent to be able to do that stuff better?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said, no, and I was like, so there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It comes from your talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can get that area of your brain to work better without losing your talent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just nobody tells you that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And very few people know how to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And anybody who says you can, just simply doesn't know what they're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You talk when I asked like why there's an imbalance in stuff and you talked about how you would stimulate the right brain to help balance the imbalance of the left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you stimulate the right side of the brain or one side versus the other?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, just like if I said to you, you have a weakness on your right arm and your right bicep is weak and that's affecting the way you move and the way you do things and we need to balance that out, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do exercises for my bicep, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have areas of our brain that think, that do math, that read, that comprehend what we read, that socialize, that process visual information, auditory information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's specific sound frequencies or see different life frequencies or smell things differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or move our body in different ways, or give us a sense of balance or spatial awareness, or give us a way to memorize certain facts, or remember spatial information, or brains do different things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and the right brain and the left brain do everything differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they do it in different degrees.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, if we want to activate one side of the brain, we'll do things visually that the left brain would do, or it's horally, or certain smells, or move our body on the right side, or feel things from the right side, or only use certain frequencies of light, or frequencies of sound.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or get them to do certain academic skills or do different cognitive skills or put things on them that will activate one side of the brain and inhibit the other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Use different lasers or light like red light or infrared to activate different frequencies and inhibit frequencies in one side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you know, the brain ultimately, you know, we hear things like, well, all these problems start in the gut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They go, they start in your brain and your brain stem, which has an impact on your gut growth and development and function, you know, why does somebody have a gluten sensitivity or a food sensitivity?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do they have antibodies against their own body like eggs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It all comes down to the brain and the nervous system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So using different supplements, eliminating certain foods, or doing different supplements that will boost certain neurotransmitters and inhibit others.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all of these things are things that we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it starts with an evaluation, a history, what's your issues, what's your problems, what are you good at, what are you not so good at, how when did you first notice this or with parents,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are your concerns for your child?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've created checklist that are in my books that you can check off to pretty much tell you, are you a right brain or a left brain dominant person naturally?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, do you have a right brain or left brain deficit?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have an imbalance that is at the root of these issues?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just your label, but what's happening with your actual brain?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that impacting your body in certain ways?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it impact your ability to do school?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it impact your ability to do certain cognitive skills?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there physical signs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, your body is tilted one way or your face looks asymmetric one way or all of it means something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we can put together a program to individualize, change that over the course of a period of time and work on all those things together, ultimately, to create the ultimate version of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I try to change anybody, just trying to take away your weaknesses and build up your strengths and make you the most balanced optimal version of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And anybody can do that.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't saying and that gives so much hope to people listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to know, do you have like stories that are your favorite like a nonverbal, you know, childhood spectrum like I've got to imagine you have seen some crazy crazy stories.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, because we work with
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as my career has gone on and by the way, you know, I've done, I have over a hundred scientific papers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've published studies and we've done the research in the best journals in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I'm saying to you, we've proven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not, none of this is coming out of nowhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, I've had, you know, multiple textbooks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have eight best selling books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is, I've worked with
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[SPEAKER_00]: thousands and tens of thousands of patients taught tens of thousands of doctors and therapists across the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this is real stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody can go, any of my papers or you can open access online, you can go there, go to PubMed, go to Google Scholar, put my name up, and you know, some of my papers will come up number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's all there, it's all real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, really, this is evolved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The ultimate for me was kids that couldn't speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, especially on the autism spectrum because I know they're brilliant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their grains are so powerful and so unique.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And but it is one of the biggest mysteries in all of neuroscience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he's ever really answered the question why don't they speak?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody really has ever come out and said, this is what prevents them from speaking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I've wanted to answer that question for thirty years and I have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it clear, but we work with non-speaking kids and adults more than anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a way where they can learn to spell on a letterboard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That in of itself is like, well, what do you mean they can learn to spell on a letterboard if they can't speak?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't they speak?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people believe they don't know words or there's something wrong with their language center.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know all the words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These kids are geniuses, but they can't feel their body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't control their body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't build these maps in their brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so therefore they don't know where their body and the arm and their hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you touch them or give them a little bit where their brain can say, there's my hand, they can type with a letterboard
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them might be able to type on an iPad or on, and all of a sudden, all of their brilliance comes out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like unbelievable, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I didn't hate your old kid from New Zealand who had never spoken a word.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't think he knew anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't think he knew one letter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, many therapists told the parents, well, they're just, you know, intellectually disabled, meaning they really don't know anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this mom found a way that this kid could actually talk to speak type on a letterboard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the first thing you started doing was saying these quantum physics phrases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, I want to grow up with me a physicist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the mother's like, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he would put words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would type these words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, I don't know what this word means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does it mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he would define it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she still wouldn't really understand what he was saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she brought it to a friend of hers who was a physics professor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said, what do you think of this word in this definition?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, yeah, this is a definition of a physics term.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a very good definition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, whoever wrote this knows a lot about physics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you ask?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said, this is my eight-year-old non-speaking autistic kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, that's impossible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No child would know this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way that he would know this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said, well, I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I didn't do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't, I wrote, you know, what type in this, I couldn't even tell you what this said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was like, how did, but this is the thing, these kids, they know things are on a different claim.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just the science of understanding how they can do this on a letterboard, but they can't write, they can't type on their own and they can't speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what is happening there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And our goal is always to get these kids to be able to speak for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And most of the time we do, but you can't do that if you don't know what the problem is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where, but so what these kids can do, I don't know if you've ever heard of the telepathy tapes as well, which is that's a whole, another realm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, what are telepathy tapes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to look into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the most popular podcasts in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've actually been number one in the world several times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's working with mainly non-verbal autistic kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not only are they speaking on letterboard, but it's very clear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that many of them have telepathic abilities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, it's real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, real stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Show Rogan for a couple of days, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so, but that's a whole other thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the science underneath that is pretty much the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's just so, I have so many like unbelievable stories of change and hope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just had a mom, right here with me from Indiana, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she knew another mom, a broader son here who was twelve years old and never said a word, his whole life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't think he knew anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't even think he was teachable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't even try and teach him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he would get violent and gratitude and bite people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he came here and we started working with him and he was typing on a letterboard and everything came out of like all these things he wanted to say to his mother and his father and this was a kid they didn't think no matter recognize the letter A. And this kid starts telling us things about himself and his brain and his body that his parents, you know, he writes things and the parents send it to me like is this real?
40:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Like is this possible?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because he's describing like advanced science and these kids, I've learned a lot of why they don't speak, because I ask them, I say to them, why can't you speak?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they tell me, and they tell me, like, I don't know where my body is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel my body and I can't move my body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I know all the words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't control my body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely amazing.
41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you, you're the director of the National Institute for Brain and Rehab and Science, correct?
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And is that where you see and work with most of your patients?
41:12
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's the name of the lab that I head up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My, I have two practices in New York.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One is around, and one is New York City called the Milo Center for developing minds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where we work with patients, but we also have a labs across the world, and we do research in our labs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have, you know, one partners around the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I teach and, you know, I've trained many people in my method, and they also do it, and some of them are involved in the research as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, some of it is done in a lab research setting, but most of it is actually in our private practice that I've been doing for over thirty years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me about the book, Disconnected Kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're getting right to come off the third edition of this book, too, correct?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came out last year, actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so, you know, at a certain point, as always putting this all together and, you know, again, first wanting to understand my own children's brains.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I really started for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, somebody labeled my child with ADHD.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already knew a lot about neurology and neuroscience and because that's what I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, well, what is ADHD?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's happening in the brain?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, oh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody knows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I went around to other people that I thought might know a pediatrician is pediatric neurologist neurologist psychiatrist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is ADHD?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is happening in the brain?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, because my background is rehab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted it to try to rehab it, like fix it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just show me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody can answer, but they're real quickly to say to me, well, it's nothing you can do about it anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, wait a second, you just told me you don't know what it is, but you know I can't change it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does that work, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I dove into the research myself and connected with other researchers around the world and eventually wrote a textbook about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I wanted to be to explain it for parents to understand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at a certain point, while I was working with this, as I was researching, and I was also developing this method and this program.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted it to give it to the hands of parents, so they could start doing this, because I saw this epidemic rise of ADHD and autism, and I wanted to help people
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where disconnected kids from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to give them real answers about what is actually happening in your child's brain and how can you assess it yourself to really understand is this a left brain ADHD or right brain ADHD and then put together a program to help your child in measurable ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a manual really on how to actually change your child's brain for the better and their body and their diet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from the very beginning, as resonated, it's one of the best selling books of all time in the genre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it just came out with a third edition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't get a third edition unless people are pretty interested in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially fifteen years later, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My publisher's like, your book is selling better than ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there's a huge demand for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we also have a ton of research.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm a researcher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I published, you know, ten major papers in the last two or three years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we wanted to include that in there so that we're always on the update of the cutting-edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything we're talking about is research based and evidence based.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a great tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if someone's listening right now and they can relate to anything that we're saying for themselves too, like what if an adult's listening?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, yeah, because it started in your childhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You may read about yourself as a child and look back, like you might read back on it and go, oh my God, a lot of parents who read it for their children and go, you know what, this is me when I was in school.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was this kid and I'm like, well, these see what's happening in your son, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also your strengths are there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also your weaknesses and they're both exaggerated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God, this gives me such hope, Dr. Robert, this is this is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the book, it's like, what a tool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so people can create and start their own roadmap to healing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have an nutrition manual that I created that goes along with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have a book called Reconnected Kids, which is about how to manage these behaviors as they change and understand as changing the brain, what to expect and when
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then I even have another book I wrote on how to prevent these imbalances preconception.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was one of my questions was like, when you start changing the brain like this, is there a lot that you kind of have to like prepare for and, I mean, because I, in the space that I'm in with health and fitness and training people on coaching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny because people will make transformations, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll go to the gym and they'll work out and they'll start eating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't cover the other things that are going to happen, one, you'll either self sabotage, you'll totally quay, you know, you'll go back and revert to what was familiar to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm always trying to help prepare people like, hey, this is what's probably going to happen next.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to notice this start changing in your life or in your environment, you know, because when you become fabulous and you create changes, that upsets other people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not prepared for other people to be making comments to you, your brain will go, oh, go back to the old you because it was safer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can, I've got to imagine that you can see things that will happen that people probably need to be prepared for for themselves or their kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I've written the books, really, because it's one thing when you go into a doctor's office or somewhere, you go to a lecture, you hear all this information that comes out, you can be overwhelmed, well, make some of it resonates with you, but how do you use it in a practical way?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, how do you prepare for everything?
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you look at everything?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where, you know, when someone sits down and reads a book in their own time, they can absorb it in their own way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they come to me and they're like, okay, now I'm ready right now I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or as you start this part of your journey, read the book on what's going to come next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This tells you the next part to expect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and deal with it beforehand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this book now tells you about this part of the journey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or, you know, we create videos now for people to educate them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where social media can be really helpful in podcasts like this, because a lot of people read anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, again, why people really resonate with a podcast like this, because they'll listen while they'll drive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, may not sit down and read a book about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there's all these different tools now, but yes, and it's a totally holistic, because the brain is responsible for everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything in the life comes from your brain and how you respond to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so therefore, when you change your brain, even though you want to do it in specific ways, everything in your brain and your body may change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And your emotions may change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how you see the world is going to change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How people will see you is going to change.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you need prepared for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is so cool because that's why I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to have you on and you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People don't read the same anymore or, you know, they might see something on social media, but they don't jump to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if they are on a podcast with people that they trust and they're listening and then they hear about it, they hear us to have conversation around this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're ten times more likely than be open to it and then go get a book and be open to change and read and then their life is never the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're welcome, everyone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Robert, where can people find you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can they follow you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to put everything in the show notes, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the load on websites, everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my main website is Dr. Robert Malalo.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's M-E-L-I-L-L-O.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have professional courses for doctors, therapists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People I want to become certified or you're going to fellowship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a lot of my research papers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, people can access my books through anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Amazon, anywhere they sell books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my papers are on, like I said, any sort of research PubMed Google Scholar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have two podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One, like I said, I do is my daughter, which is called the right brain WRIT, the right brain podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to want to listen to that because it really relates to, I think, what you talk about, your type of ADHD and what that means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to resonate with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have another one called the Milillo method podcast, which is a little bit more, you know, geared towards more hardcore neuroscientists and in a little bit more technical, you know, and I have eight best selling books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all available.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can get them through there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really active on Instagram and Facebook YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, I have at Dr. Robert Milillo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, we'll be sure to put everything in the show notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys see if you're driving and listening to this, it will all be there for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Follow, listen, and I'm so glad you told me about the right brain podcast because I did not have that down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll put a link to that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Robert, this has been absolutely incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for coming on and just opening our brains to all of this and that it's just such hope, you know, that you don't have to be stuck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your child doesn't have to be this label for the rest of their life because I know a lot of people hear that and they get the diagnosis and then they're like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess this is just how it is and that's not true and so you I think you've provided so much hope so thank you for and I think I want you to understand that if you have a diagnosis that your child does it's because they're gifted in somewhere and We'll don't have any idea you just feel like oh my god You just see the deficiency or the problem and not realize that it comes from the gift and so there you may not see it
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guarantee you it's there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all we want to do is keep that gift and just try to help them minimize whatever they're struggling with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone check out the show notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Check out the book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Disconnected kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of his books and follow and stay stay in touch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't thank you enough for coming on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've been a true blessing to the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My pleasure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone stay safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay healthy until next time.
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