Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / From Curious to Committed: Building Your Winning Sales Process
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Before we begin I'd like to give
- 0:04a shout out to Adiba and Nos. She is involved in sales and
- 0:11marketing at a company at the company called Hashim Limited.
- 0:16Now the reason why I'm giving her a shout out is because today
- 0:19I received an invite or a connection request rather on
- 0:23LinkedIn. I accepted.
- 0:25I sent a message out. It turns out that she discovered
- 0:28the podcast on Spotify. She listened to the previous
- 0:31episode and then that's why she sent me an invite.
- 0:34So I've put out an open invitation to her because she's
- 0:38in charge of sales and marketing for the organization.
- 0:41I've told her that she discusses with her team and they have any
- 0:45questions based on the previous episode that I would spend some
- 0:49time with them, answer the questions and then also make a
- 0:51podcast episode about it. So shout out to Adiba and Nos
- 0:57hope I'm pronouncing the name properly.
- 0:59Thank you very much for listening to the show and for
- 1:01reaching out. Now today we're going to look at
- 1:04how to create a winning sales process from lead generation to
- 1:09closing deals. This is not a listener question,
- 1:12but it's something I made a note of in one of my sheets of paper.
- 1:15So I can't remember what the inspiration was, but I think but
- 1:18I figured it's it's a good enough question to tackle, so we
- 1:22might as well go ahead with it. Now for those of you who are
- 1:27newbies listening to the podcast, you might be hearing
- 1:30some terms in this episode that you know that sound kind of
- 1:34technical. So I'll do my best to try and
- 1:35define things as we go along. So the first foreign term is
- 1:41lead generation. Now, what does lead generation
- 1:45mean in my own opinion? Remember, I like to give
- 1:50everyday simple definitions, so it might not be technically
- 1:53correct or it not might not be all-encompassing, but I give the
- 1:57kind of definition that I want people to remember so that it's
- 2:00always at the back of their pocket and they can work with it
- 2:03and you don't have to. My thing is, if you can remember
- 2:07it, you can do it. And if you can do it, and you
- 2:09can do it repeatedly and sustainably over time, then the
- 2:13chances of making progress increases.
- 2:15So lead generation. Now, my own opinion, a lead is
- 2:20someone that you can approach or someone that you can call on
- 2:25reliably. And putting that asterisk to
- 2:28this whole thing, you know, reliably.
- 2:30Because theoretically speaking, you can go out into the whole
- 2:34wide world and approach anybody and approach everybody.
- 2:39But that does not mean that everybody is a lead.
- 2:43OK, so people that you can approach or call on reliably.
- 2:47Now what's the reliable part? The reliable part is that people
- 2:50must have indicated something about what they did, where they
- 2:55went, what they said. They must have done something
- 2:58objectively that you can point to.
- 3:00That indicates that there might be a possible interest here.
- 3:05Now when somebody takes, when somebody goes through the pains
- 3:09of indicating that they might be interested, you are taking the
- 3:13initiative to reach out and to call.
- 3:16So the person that has indicated interest somehow, whether online
- 3:23or offline, is what we call a lead.
- 3:26So anybody who meets his, I'm sorry, who meets that
- 3:28definition, we can call a lead. So remember, the lead is someone
- 3:33that you can approach or that you can call on, or that you can
- 3:36e-mail or SMS or WhatsApp or whatever, but that you can do so
- 3:41reliably. You need to have some sort of
- 3:45reason to call them. And the reason that I would
- 3:48recommend is that these people have done something, whether
- 3:52online or offline, that shows that they might be interested.
- 3:56And then you take the initiative to call, you take the initiative
- 4:00and reach out. An example is once I was coming
- 4:05out of school, young man handed me a flyer.
- 4:07The flyer was about shoes, bags, school books, things like that.
- 4:13Now I did what most Nigerians do.
- 4:16I took the flag, I said thanks and then I left.
- 4:20Now if I send an SMS or to the number or I send Adm to the
- 4:28Instagram handle, now I would have become a lead for that
- 4:33business because I have done something objective that you can
- 4:37point to that shows I might be interested.
- 4:40So then I'm a lead at the point at which the young man handed me
- 4:44the flyer. I was not a lead because even
- 4:48though I'm standing with kids, I might not be interested in these
- 4:51sorts of things because maybe Wifey has sorted out everything
- 4:55or we have a store that we like using.
- 4:57So I might not be a lead at that point.
- 5:00So not everybody that you give you a flyer to is a lead.
- 5:03If you hand out 5000 Flyers, it doesn't mean that you have 5000
- 5:09leads. If you hand out 5000 Flyers and
- 5:13out of those 5000 Flyers, you get 20 DMS, one WhatsApp
- 5:18message, one SMS, and maybe one phone call.
- 5:22Add that all. Add that all up together.
- 5:25Those are the leads that you have for the month.
- 5:28OK, now let's try and define what closing deals is, what that
- 5:33means. Now closing deals is getting
- 5:36people who are interested to take the next step.
- 5:41Let me repeat again, most people think closing deals is
- 5:43collecting the money. And yes, that is the more
- 5:46popular meaning of the word closing deals.
- 5:49So yes, closing deals is getting people to collect the money.
- 5:51But The thing is before you collect the money from someone,
- 5:55before they pay, people usually go through any smaller number of
- 5:59steps. If you get them to move from one
- 6:02step to another, then you have executed a close.
- 6:07So back to the flyer thing. Coming out from school and with
- 6:10my kids, young man hands me a flyer.
- 6:12I said thanks and drive away. Tomorrow I send Adm.
- 6:17That means I might be interested.
- 6:18I'm a lead. There's something to follow up
- 6:20on. Now let us say that, OK, Since I
- 6:23don't sell these sorts of things, I'm not sure what the
- 6:26next step should be. Let's see.
- 6:29So I'm thinking on the flyer here.
- 6:31OK, so if I collect the DM, OK yes.
- 6:33So maybe the next step if you're in this business should be to
- 6:37try and get someone to narrow down to a particular item or a
- 6:41range of items. So if you're responding to the
- 6:44DM, the goal is not to collect 50K from me because I bought 2
- 6:50pair of shoes. The goal actually the next step
- 6:53actually should be can I get this fellow who is on the phone,
- 6:58on the DM? On the WhatsApp, can I get him
- 7:01to identify three or four things that he might be interested in?
- 7:04That's the next step. If you're able to get me to do
- 7:08that in the SMS, in the WhatsApp, in the e-mail or the
- 7:12phone call, you have closed, you have executed a close.
- 7:17You have taken me one step further.
- 7:20Somebody who resists taking this next step, possibly relatively
- 7:25speaking, is not going to buy from you.
- 7:27Well, the person who identifies a couple of options has moved
- 7:33one step closer. It doesn't mean that the person
- 7:35is going to buy. It just means that the person
- 7:37has moved one step closer. And that's the philosophy that I
- 7:40want you guys to have when it comes to talking to leads and
- 7:44closing deals. It's not about collecting the
- 7:46money. Now.
- 7:48There are some situations where you collect the money.
- 7:50Now, I'm not good at that. I wouldn't recommend that for a
- 7:55couple of reasons. But if you look at closing the
- 8:00deal as walking people through small steps, everything becomes
- 8:03manageable. So you hand out the flyer.
- 8:07You know that people are going to reach out.
- 8:09When people reach out, you don't have to be nervous about how how
- 8:12many deals will I close now? The first thing is going to be
- 8:16how many people am I going to get to take the next step?
- 8:19And the next step is that they look at something on Instagram
- 8:23or they look at the catalogue and they tell me I might be
- 8:25interested in 1-2 and three, how much could they be?
- 8:30So that's just one step. So if you take things step by
- 8:32step, it's a whole lot easier. Now what we have discussed,
- 8:38technically speaking have names. One of them is called the One
- 8:42Call close. That is where you take the
- 8:44person to the next step. Every deal is broken up into
- 8:48small steps. You're trying to take somebody
- 8:50to take one small step. So one small step leading up to
- 8:54the big step, which is they pay the money and you guys have a
- 8:56business relationship. Say one call close is what I
- 8:59want you guys to practice on every single call.
- 9:02Move one step the person calls you move one step you go to the
- 9:07person's house. Move one step the person sends
- 9:10you Adm move one step. The goal is not always collect
- 9:14the money. Now now the thing about
- 9:17collecting money that is called a one time close.
- 9:20What that means is one time you've met this person.
- 9:23Today you've met this person. First time you've met this
- 9:26person, you're feeling like a bad guy, or you're feeling like
- 9:28a correct girl. You collect the money.
- 9:30Now, now, now, now, now, the very first time you meet them,
- 9:33now we can be done. There are people who show up.
- 9:36You were a total stranger before.
- 9:38We liars. We talk, and then they collect
- 9:411.5 M today as deposits. There are people who can do
- 9:44that, but I don't have that skill set.
- 9:47It's not something that I've studied and so it's not
- 9:49something I'm going to teach. But the reason why I don't
- 9:52recommend it is because it is really high pressure, because
- 9:55it's hard every day to go out thinking this week I'm going to
- 10:01jam somebody who is a prospect and I'm going to collect my
- 10:03money complete, I'm going to collect the money one time, as
- 10:07in I'm a bad guy like that. It is hard to put you under a
- 10:10lot of high pressure and this is the kind of pressure that breaks
- 10:15sales people easily over time. So it can be done.
- 10:18I don't know how to do that. If you're interested in that
- 10:21sort of thing and maybe you found someone think you can that
- 10:24can teach those sorts of things, hit me up in the inbox.
- 10:28Let me know, at least I'll make sure that you're not going to be
- 10:31taken advantage of by a hogster or a fraudulent person.
- 10:34So that's a one time close. I don't recommend that.
- 10:37I recommend one call close every single call, every single
- 10:40interaction. Take the next step.
- 10:44So another way of looking at this question, how do you create
- 10:48a winning sales process from lead generation to close?
- 10:51Another looking at this question is this, Let's paraphrase, how
- 10:56do we get people to show interest?
- 10:58So that's the main thing. How do we get people to show
- 11:00interest? How do we start chatting with
- 11:03them and how do we get them to take the next step?
- 11:07So behind all this fancy language, lead generation, sales
- 11:10process, closing deal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 11:12That is the simple thing we're trying to figure out here today.
- 11:15And we try to figure out all the time, how do we get people to
- 11:18show interest. The young man gives me a flyer.
- 11:22That's one way. How do we start chatting with
- 11:24them? I send Adm to them.
- 11:28We can take that as permission to start chatting.
- 11:30How do we get them to move to the next step or to take the
- 11:33next stage? So we're trying to solve that
- 11:36process. We're going to have to look at a
- 11:37couple of other smaller questions.
- 11:41And the first one is, first of all, we have to define our ICP.
- 11:45The ICP is the ideal customer profile.
- 11:48Some people call it the target avatar, the target customer, the
- 11:54ideal customer. But you get the point.
- 11:57These are people that we should be spending most of our time
- 12:00chasing, people who might be most likely to be interested in
- 12:03our products or our service, or that could be an example of the
- 12:08best class or category of kinds of people that usually buy from
- 12:14us. We need to figure that out.
- 12:16Step one, the person who sent me the flyer, if you notice, was
- 12:20hanging outside my children's school.
- 12:23The business sells children's bags and shoes and plates and
- 12:28cups and books. So part of their ICP was that
- 12:32people who buy from us are people who have children and
- 12:36people whose children are in school.
- 12:38You can see how now, if you ask yourself this question, your job
- 12:42of selling becomes a whole lot easier.
- 12:45You don't have to get out into the whole world and start
- 12:48handing your flag to anybody. Since you know, in this case
- 12:52that ICP are people who have children and the children are in
- 12:57school, I guess it only makes sense that you hang around
- 13:00schools. But what else?
- 13:02Maybe church? People coming out of church who
- 13:05have children, I don't know. Hospitals.
- 13:10OK, maybe hospitals. Women who have just given birth.
- 13:14OK, no, maybe that's too soon. Yeah, that might be too soon
- 13:18anyway. But you get my point.
- 13:19Once you define the ICP, what you should do next now becomes a
- 13:24whole lot clearer. Now, ways that you figure out
- 13:27your ICP are you can use demographics or psychographics.
- 13:32That is what determines where it is that you look.
- 13:36I'm going to repeat that. Demographics or psychographics.
- 13:39Now, for those of you who are newbies, I'm going to define
- 13:41what those terms mean. Demographics are the sorts of
- 13:44things that they taught us in primary school.
- 13:46That's for those of you who are Nigerians when we're talking
- 13:50about population characteristics, So we're
- 13:53talking about height, age, location, occupation, those
- 13:59sorts of things. So you should be thinking in
- 14:01clear demographic terms. So back to the person who handed
- 14:04me a flyer, Demographics, parents.
- 14:08So the guy is not concerned about people who are single, and
- 14:13he's not concerned about people who are dating.
- 14:16He might not even be concerned about people who are married or
- 14:18unmarried because you don't have to be married to have children
- 14:20together. But he's concerned about people
- 14:22who have children. That is demographics, OK, Adult
- 14:28with children. It was outside my children's
- 14:31school, so that's in Abuja. OK.
- 14:35So that's also part of demographics.
- 14:37Adults who have children and who live in ABCD, parts of Abuja,
- 14:43that's demographics, then psychographics.
- 14:46Those are the things that people are interested in.
- 14:49It also helps. So if the SO excuse me, so if
- 14:55the psychographic elements here are people who are interested in
- 14:59their children's education, then maybe you have an Instagram
- 15:02handle and you're always blogging on the Instagram
- 15:05handle. Yeah, things related to
- 15:07children's learning and you know, blah blah blah, things
- 15:09like that. So people who are engaging with
- 15:12those sorts of things, you know, might now fit the
- 15:14psychographics. So you can see that you have
- 15:16demographics to go off of. You're looking for adults who
- 15:20live in Abuja, certain parts of Abuja whose children go to
- 15:26school and then psychographics who might be interested in 1234.
- 15:31Now these are important because these are the things that
- 15:33determine where it is that you are going to look.
- 15:36So defining your ICP really, really, really important.
- 15:41Then the next step would be to identify your lead generation
- 15:45strategies. Now remember I said the lead,
- 15:48anybody that you can talk to, reach out to call, WhatsApp,
- 15:52SMS. But they have good reason for
- 15:54doing so because they have done something you can point to that
- 15:58shows they might be interested. So now we're looking at the most
- 16:02effective channels to reach these sorts of people that we
- 16:04have identified. Now for the young man that
- 16:07handed me the flyer, what he did made perfect sense, looking for
- 16:12parents who shouldn't in school so that I'm going to hang out
- 16:15outside schools. So you look for strategies for
- 16:19reaching people online. You can do online marketing.
- 16:25You send out advertisements on Facebook and where else,
- 16:29Instagram, places like that. Maybe Tiktok.
- 16:33I hear that people are not advertising on Tiktok.
- 16:35And then people who respond to those ads, those are leads.
- 16:39That is somebody you can chase because the person has done
- 16:41something that you can point to. The person responded to an
- 16:44advertisement. Then let's see, there's also
- 16:48social media, people engaging, people liking, stuff like that.
- 16:51You can do community building online.
- 16:54So based on the conversations that you get and the engagement
- 16:56that you get there, those people might be leads because they have
- 17:00done something, they commented they liked, they shared, they
- 17:04sent you Adm. So content marketing is also
- 17:07stuff you can do. Networking events, that's
- 17:09something you can do. Industry trade shows, that's
- 17:11something you can do. There are lots of things that
- 17:14you can do online or offline, but whether you do online stuff
- 17:20or social media stuff that will determine that will be
- 17:24determined by who your ideal customer profile is, your ICP.
- 17:29So that's why ICP, the first question.
- 17:32Now the next thing that we have to do that we have tried to
- 17:35identify lead generation. Lead generation just means how
- 17:40do I get people to show their hands?
- 17:42If I run an advert and somebody clicks, the person has showed
- 17:44their hands. If I go outside school and I
- 17:48hand a flyer and the person DMS, that person has showed his hand.
- 17:51So that's what we're trying to get.
- 17:53So next we have a qualification process that we have to run
- 17:57people through. Now qualification is just a
- 18:01series of conversations or interactions that you use to
- 18:05separate the wheat from the chef.
- 18:07We're trying to sort out customers.
- 18:10We're trying to look. So I'm trying to sort out people
- 18:12who are going to buy from time wasters.
- 18:15There's no point in spending time with time wasters.
- 18:17You can have what you think is a fruitful conversation with
- 18:20someone for two hours, but if truly, truly, truly the person
- 18:23was a time waster from the beginning, you have wasted those
- 18:25two hours. So qualification is what we try
- 18:28to swap through people. Who is meant to buy?
- 18:30Who is a time waster? Who is interested?
- 18:33Who is just curious? Who is a Wakapas?
- 18:36This is what we're trying to figure out now.
- 18:39We can only do this if we go through a process of engaging
- 18:44with people, having a conversation with people.
- 18:49So you do something, they respond.
- 18:51You see the respond based on who it is that responds.
- 18:55You keep talking. You keep talking to people who
- 18:59have responded positively. Yeah, let me put it that way.
- 19:02So back to the flyer example. I take the flyer, IDM.
- 19:06Now, it's cool. Someone takes the flyer and
- 19:08throws it, crumples it and throws it into the dustbin
- 19:11before your very eyes. Don't let that discourage you.
- 19:13It's just normal. You're looking for people who
- 19:16have responded positively. Just forget about the people who
- 19:18responded negatively for now, the stuff that we can do in the
- 19:22future to reduce the negative responses.
- 19:25But for now, let's only be concerned about people who
- 19:27responded positively from those who responded positively.
- 19:31Let's find out who is interested.
- 19:33Let's try and figure out how interested are they.
- 19:37Let's try and figure out how our product or service might solve
- 19:39their problems or help them achieve their vision.
- 19:42Because in this case, if somebody DMS the young man who
- 19:47put out the Flyers, it might be because they have a problem, my
- 19:51son's bag is spoiled. That might be a problem.
- 19:54Or you could have a vision that they're looking towards.
- 19:57I don't like the way my son's bag looks.
- 19:59My son looks like an orphan. I want him to look like a child
- 20:02that is well catered for, you know?
- 20:04So in that case, that's a vision.
- 20:05So no matter the product or the service that you have, when
- 20:07people call you, they're either trying to solve a problem or
- 20:11they have a vision. I'll need to try and be able to
- 20:13figure that out. Then we need to make sure that
- 20:16money expectations are close enough.
- 20:19Because if you have a product that is 2500 naira, but the
- 20:25person you're talking to thinks 500 naira can solve that
- 20:28problem, your expectations are way, way off.
- 20:32There's no how you can close that deal.
- 20:34You can't get a 500 person, 500 naira person to spend 25, but if
- 20:40the person is thinking it might cost 2000, but your solution on
- 20:44average is 2500, there might be room for you guys to do some
- 20:48business because you can get somebody who is thinking 2000.
- 20:51You can get that person to pay 2-3, maybe 2-4, who knows, might
- 20:55be able to get that person to pay 27, but you can't go from
- 20:58500 all the way up to 25. It's just too much.
- 21:01Then we also have to make a proposal, then ask for a
- 21:05commitment. So this is the process, more or
- 21:10less. So whether online or offline, we
- 21:13always have to be doing something, create some sort of
- 21:17engagement, like handing the flyer.
- 21:20If I collect it, that is engagement.
- 21:22If I send Adm, that is engagement.
- 21:24If I call, that is an engagement.
- 21:27And when people engage, we always have to be trying to ask
- 21:30for commitments and get them to take the next possible step.
- 21:34Now we've done 21 minutes so far.
- 21:35I wanted us to look at the fictional case study for someone
- 21:38selling shoes. The reason why I thought about
- 21:40that is because I'm currently chatting with someone right now.
- 21:43This one is just personal chat, someone that I met in my wedding
- 21:47photography days and she's currently selling sneakers.
- 21:50And I just thought, wow, that's interesting because I didn't
- 21:52know that there are people in Nigeria, particularly young
- 21:56women, who make a living selling sneakers.
- 21:59Because I thought that sneaker heads, I just figured, 'cause my
- 22:02generation, I think, are the kind of people who used to be
- 22:05sneaker heads. But I figured, you know, we're
- 22:07growing old, you know, we have other things to do rather than
- 22:09buying sneakers. So I'm going to have a chat with
- 22:11her. It'll be nice to learn about
- 22:15that part of Niger, because I didn't know that we have a
- 22:17collector's market in Niger. I always like finding out new
- 22:21and interesting ways about how people are making money.
- 22:26So, oh, sorry. OK.
- 22:29Yeah. I think I accidentally paused
- 22:30the recording. OK, I think I'm back.
- 22:33So, yes, So that's what inspired this case study.
- 22:35So what I'll do is since we are 20 minutes over, we'll do the
- 22:39case study tomorrow. And we're going to be looking at
- 22:44a fictional example about a female based in Nigeria who
- 22:47wants to start selling sneakers online.
- 22:50And the focus will be on how we're going to create a winning
- 22:53sales process, going from lead generation, getting people to
- 22:57show their hands to closing deals.
- 23:00So that's it for today. Thank you very much for your
- 23:02time and your attention. Please connect with me on
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- 23:32As for those of you who are not Nigerian, thanks for your time
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- 23:36episode.