Latest / Two Girls and a Cup of Wellness / Thermography: Detecting Inflammation Early with Jody Hart | Ep 9
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- Crissy Florio: Hello everyone and welcome back for another Two Girls and a Cup of Wellness podcast. This is Chrissy. And I'm Marie. And today, as you already heard, we have the amazing Jodi, our wonderful thermographer friend joining us. Welcome, Jodi. Jody: Hi, thanks. Thanks for having me. Crissy Florio: We are so excited to have you and we both absolutely love and adore you. And so when thinking about who to bring on as guests, both of us were like, we gotta have Jodi. We gotta talk all things, thermography and inflammation and give the people a little bit more information about this amazing tool that you provide. let's just kind of start with, first off, I get a question a lot. Chrissy, what is thermography? Why don't you explain what it is just to give the listeners more understanding what the actual scanning is and what it's good for, and then we can kind of go from there. Jody: Yeah, that's a great starting point. A lot of people never heard of thermography. So a lot of people come to me, they think of when they think of thermography, they think of breast thermography and breast imaging. And that is a very big part of what I do is a lot of women come to me for breast, but we actually can look at many areas of the body and detect inflammation and heat patterns going on throughout the body. And since the body is all connected, We're not looking for structural imaging. We're looking for those physiological changes, the metabolic changes going on in the body, in the breast, in the thyroid, ⁓ gut health. ⁓ It's all connected. So we like to look at the body as a whole, detect those heat patterns and try to implement changes to kind of change those patterns around and be proactive and try to Treat, ⁓ I shouldn't say treat, but ⁓ notice things that are probably occurring in the body before symptoms even appear. Crissy Florio: Okay, so I was talking to Chrissy before, so you can actually see the inflammation process happen before maybe something shows up on a PET scan, like a lump, right? Maybe, maybe not. Jody: Yes, well, and when you're doing like a mammogram, ultrasound, those studies are looking for structure. thermography, we're not looking for structure. We're looking for those physiological changes. So if something is detected, for instance, in a breast thermography, if we're detecting something going on, we're not actually detecting the structure itself. We're detecting the physiological changes, kind of the blood flow, the inflammation, and that... Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. We're BudFile. Jody: when you have inflammation occurring in the body, there's gonna be the metabolic change, the blood flow kind of feeding that area. So that's what we're actually detecting. Crissy Florio: Mm hmm. Okay. Do you see, is it mostly women that come to see you for breast? Jody: Yes, mostly women, but it's great for men as well. You know, we can detect ⁓ any heat in the body. There's certain things it's better for than others, but for breast, amazing. Thyroid, carotids, sinuses and teeth. The big connection between the sinuses and teeth is very important with breast health. Lymph congestion, hormone imbalance, ⁓ autoimmune patterns will show up. So there's... Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Jody: different patterns they're looking for that will direct you on, then you can take a proactive approach and try to ⁓ turn it around, turn those patterns around and calm that inflammation before something develops. Crissy Florio: Right. So this is definitely, thermography is way more of a proactive approach. We want to find things before it turns into something like a tumor or a blockage or anything like that. it's not technically a diagnostic tool. right, exactly. Like a mammogram or a CT scan or PET scan. You know, they are certainly looking for masses and tumors, but this is studying the body and keeping track of the body before Jody: Absolutely. Right. Crissy Florio: something major happens. And that's probably why a lot of doctors may not necessarily suggest doing it to their clients. And... Well, it gets back into that, you know, the physicians are looking for something. So when you order a mammogram, you're going to make sure that there's no lump there already. Instead of saying, well, let's order a demography and see if inflammation is starting before the lump is formed. But again, it goes back even further that our system isn't proactive, we're reactive. Reactive, for sure. For sure. Jody: Absolutely. And thermography is FDA approved. It's approved in conjunction with other studies. So for me personally, I like to pair it with an ultrasound. So you're getting that structural set of imaging and the physiological changes, especially in women's health. In 2023, they passed a new law that on your mammogram report, they have to put on the bottom of it about dense breast tissue. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Jody: And so a lot of women are waking up. It'll say right on there. If you have dense breast tissue, ⁓ you may need additional studies because that density is showing up as structure kind of blocking out the structure that could be developing. So then they'll send you for an ultrasound. They'll send you further studies. ⁓ But it doesn't matter in thermography if you have dense breast tissue and over 60 % of women do have some form of dense breast tissue. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Jody: So for us, it doesn't matter because we're not looking for the structure. So we can see, you know, past that, the dense breast tissue and just see the physiological changes of ⁓ going on in there. So it's great for women. Crissy Florio: Can you talk about the equipment a little bit? That's exactly where I was going to to. Let's talk about, yeah. Ultrasound is using sound waves and talk about the equipment. Jody: Yeah, so I use a FLIR infrared heat camera. It's detecting the heat, those physiological changes. I have like top of the line camera and a lot of people actually don't think about that, that the camera quality really matters. You know, just like any technology, it gets antiquated. And so by taking clear, really ⁓ precise images, when I upload those then to the doctors that are reading, those images and creating the report, they have a way more precise ⁓ idea of what's going on there. And you can really hone in on those heat patterns versus someone with like a 20 year old camera that's very antiquated and not as detailed. I think some cameras that are old will have like 40,000 megapixels, you know, and mine has close to 400,000. So there is a difference in the camera quality for sure. Crissy Florio: That's something that our listeners, if you are interested in getting a thermography scan done, maybe that's something that when you are looking around in your area, wherever you live, asking around for different thermographers, maybe that is something that you consider in your questioning and in your decision making. Jody: Yes, absolutely. I think a lot of people... Crissy Florio: So tell us a little bit about the actual, I mean, both of us have actually had it done, but a lot of listeners may not have. So walk us through a typical appointment. Jody: So you're going to call me. I set up the appointment. You're going to come in. There's preparations you're going to go through. It's a heat sensitive camera. So I'm going to have you not having caffeine two hours before you come in, ⁓ not doing hot yoga or sauna or anything like that, very active the morning of no chiropractic or acupuncture or anything that's going to change your heat patterns. ⁓ Crissy Florio: That was tough for me. Jody: No seat heaters as you're coming in if you are having an upper body. So there's those things to prepare for. No deodorant, no lotion, ⁓ not restrictive clothing. And then when you get there, I'm going to have you cooling while I'm entering all the information for the doctors. You just stand in front of camera. There's no compression, no radiation, no anything. You're standing in certain poses in front of the camera. I take the image. the images and I upload all those images. I usually go over the images with everybody that comes in. I like to show them and educate them on what the images look like, what the doctors will be looking for. I upload those to the board certified physicians trained in reading these and they create a report. They send that report back to me and then I send it to you and you get to come in and go over it. in our office with Dr. Leo, if you want. If it's just breast, typically people don't usually do that. If I do like an upper body or a full body, ⁓ they usually will take advantage of that free consult and get ideas of how they can change ⁓ things around. Crissy Florio: And roughly how long does that take once you have the appointment to potentially getting the results back and meeting with a. Jody: It's usually within a week. They can take two weeks to get the report back, but it's usually back within a week. Crissy Florio: Okay. I do want to say too that for the listeners, you aren't wearing any clothing. You're allowed to keep your underwear on, But you do a great job of keeping the lights down. I feel very comfortable. wasn't concerned at all. Jody: Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I have like a, ⁓ my camera is, ⁓ set up where I can be in the other room, you know, my little cubby around the corner. so everybody doesn't have to be exposed, but usually us women don't really care. And sometimes I have to pop my head out there to show them where to stand or turn or something to get you in the, in the imaging properly. But other than that, no, it can be pretty private. Crissy Florio: Yeah Mm-hmm. And also, I don't know if you remember this, Jodi, but I flossed on my way there. I'm a car flosser with my organic bamboo picks. Hello, my name is Marie and I'm a car flosser. I had a friend that said, I'll never buy a used car because people floss on them. was like, oop, that's me. That's amazing. And I drive my cars until they die. you were like, what's up with your mop? It's so inflamed. I said, I flossed the whole way here. So was interesting that you could see that right away, that heat. And my teeth aren't falling out. They're still there. Jody: You And it will, it'll definitely, those things will definitely change your heat patterns. I had a lady the other day come in for a scan and I was like, wow, her whole chest up here was like all really hot. And then after I uploaded the images already when we were going over it, she said, ⁓ my goodness, you know what I wore as she was driving in, like a belt type thing around her chest that was like an energy for healing. And she said it does cause. Crissy Florio: Mm-mm. Jody: you know, some heat and I was like, ⁓ yeah, definitely. So yeah, any little thing kind of that will change our heat patterns will definitely show up. Crissy Florio: How about medications, prescription meds, or even vitamins? Okay. Jody: ⁓ not typically. There's a couple things like beta blockers, some things that we probably shouldn't be taken beforehand, but typically not. That's usually fine. Crissy Florio: Interesting. So what got you into this? How did this all come about that you were like, wow, thermography is so cool and I want to become one? Jody: Yeah, I mean, I heard nothing about it. You know, back in the day, I think I was about 38, 39. I was still breastfeeding my son and I felt a lump in my left breast. Like it was kind of like a structure and ⁓ I couldn't have a mammogram at that time. And my husband actually ended up finding thermography for me. So I went to Barbara Thurman and ⁓ she did a thermography scan on me and And nothing really showed up in that area, but she sent me for an ultrasound as well. And they confirmed that it was dense breast tissue, kind of superficial to the surface. And I still, I just stuck with that and I kept going for, ⁓ thermography scans every year. Barbara was an acupuncturist and had been doing thermography for like 18 years at that point. ⁓ she was kind of the pioneer of, ⁓ thermography in this area. Nobody was doing it at that time. And she was amazing. So, ⁓ I started doing it way back then. And when she, she decided to sell her practice and moved out of the area, I invited her to come into our office and do her scans out of there when she would fly back every few months. And, ⁓ so she just came into our office and when she decided to sell the business, she trained me and I had to actually, ⁓ my, one of my best friends was battling, ⁓ stage. I don't know if it was, well, she had triple negative. I don't know what state she was, but it was, she was only 39. And she said, Jodi, we. Crissy Florio: And triple negative is a breast cancer too for those of you don't know. Jody: Yep. Yep. And, ⁓ she was very young and she said, Jodi, when she was going to sell the business, said, we should do this together because I'm going to need breast cancer or I'm going to need breast thermography for the rest of my life. And I said, wow, we should, we should buy this, you know, business. And so that's kind of how I started. And, ⁓ I just loved it. And 10 years ago, I wasn't feeling that great. And Barbara suggested I did an upper body scan at that time. So I was like, cause I was just doing breast every year. And then when I did the upper body scan, I was like, wow, that really gives you a lot of information. Cause you're getting, you know, the abdomen, you're getting digestive health, health ideas, ⁓ liver congestion, thyroid, carotid, sinuses, teeth, you're getting a lot of information. And I just, you know, started with that and that's how I ended up starting this. then, so I did it, Barbara trained me, ⁓ I guess back in 2019. And I started Treasure Coast Thermography in 2023 and I've just been doing it ever since. I love it. think it's a great holistic approach with minimal, there's really no downside to it. There's no radiation, no compression, no nothing. Crissy Florio: Yeah, it's not invasive either. Yeah. It's very kind to our bodies. It's a non-invasive type of tracking to see what's going on from a heat perspective, right? And like you said before, where heat starts to congregate, then cancerous cells could also be congregating. also, I've seen, and we'll show... Jody: Yes. Crissy Florio: some of these thermography scans, like actual scans. We'll put some of those up on our ⁓ links here in the show notes, but also on some of our social media posts. Just so that for those of you who really don't know what it looks like, she's got some really amazing pictures of scans. And one thing that I thought was really, really cool is when you talk about the heart, right? So when you're looking at kind of like, the heart space and where the heart is. If it's blue, that is no good. Please explain that. Jody: Yeah, because if you're blue, black is the coolest going down to blue all the way down, green, yellow, red, white's the hottest. So certain areas always show up hot. Certain areas always show up cool, but you don't always want cool for instance in the heart area. If you're having a blue nice cool area in the heart area, may mean that you're not getting blood flow to that area. Crissy Florio: Yeah. Jody: If someone has low blood pressure, their whole face will show up really, really blue, cool, because you're not getting a lot of blood flow. So there's certain patterns, yes, that'll show up cool. ⁓ In hot hands, for instance, if you get hot hands, they call it the white glove effect that will almost always indicate ⁓ diabetes. Certain patterns show up like ⁓ a motley pattern all over the body will kind of lean towards inflammation. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Jody: autoimmune patterns. So it gives us a good idea and then we can just dive deeper into that. It's not going to tell you, hey, you got, you know, two clogged arteries, but you're going to wow, it might've been something you never even knew. Then you're going to go for further testing. Same with the crowded arteries that lead to stroke in the neck. If those show up hot, doesn't necessarily mean that it's, you know, got a lot of plaque in it, but it's an area of concern. You might want to get it checked out, especially if stroke runs in your family or anything like that. It's something you might not have known until you had this study done. Crissy Florio: Yeah. So what are some of the offerings and the suggestions that are given? ⁓ Let's just talk about breasts first, because that's always where my mind goes, right? So if you're seeing, I mean, I'm sure that it depends on each person and each scan and how much inflammation you're seeing. But what are some of the next steps that people take? it like, we'll see you back in six months and maybe you should try these supplements or try this lymphatic flow or try this or that? What are some of the suggestions and offerings? Jody: Yeah, absolutely. That's great question because with your thermography report, often will put in there, they give you suggestions on how to change your breast health around. I mean, as you know, Chrissy, you know, working with you with the lymphatics, lymphatic congestion shows up, hormonal imbalance will show up in the chest area a lot of times, ⁓ the armpits, all of the chest with the lymphatics. So they will give you ideas and then, you know, I can help walk through. ⁓ ideas of how to change that around. ⁓ Dry brushing, yoga, breath work, ⁓ vibe plates, all those things to move the lymph. If digestive stuff shows up, then we'll take a different approach like maybe GI map testing, hormone testing. If your hormones are off and you're having a lot of symptoms, we can run Dutch tests and hormone panels and go from there. Crissy Florio: Cheer me up, I know. Jody: ⁓ But they will want you back if you do ⁓ your first scan, they will want you back in three to six months for your baseline. And the reason they do that is because we all have heat patterns just like we have our own fingerprint. But a big thing in thermography is comparison. So every time you come in, they are pulling up your past images and comparing them to your current images. Therefore, if you start implementing changes like ⁓ the lymph, you know, working, moving your lymph and implementing those changes you will see on your next scan. Hey, has what I, the things that I started to do, is it taking those patterns down? And they want to see, they don't want you going a whole year after your first scan because maybe they don't know, the doctors that are reading these images don't know, is that just her typical heat patterns or is that something that's just starting? They don't want you going a whole year. without having that looked at. So they will tell you to come back in three to six months after your first one. But just for breast, if you did a full body or an upper body, you don't have to come in three to six months later for a whole upper body. Just the breast is the only area that needs a baseline. ⁓ Crissy Florio: Yeah. And that is kind of really nice that you offer different types of scans. So you could do whole body, upper body, breast. And I remember when I first met you, Jody, we were on the phone for quite some time and you were giving me a lot of amazing information about thermography. And that's why I feel like it's so important to have this talk here for more of our listeners to listen to. But you know, you had mentioned, because obviously breast for me was the number one thing. had, I think, been a year out of my mastectomy and my bilateral mastectomy and my ⁓ protocols and everything. And that was one thing because I didn't need mammograms any longer. I still want to be able to track what's going on in my breast. So thermography for me is really great and beautiful. But what was really nice was I wanted to make sure obviously that the whole body was good. So I did, think, a full body or upper body, I think it was. Yeah. And then after that, just sticking with just the breast, you know, and maybe just for some of our listeners, maybe that's where you start out with, you know, for the first one, start off with doing either whole or upper. And then from there, as long as they don't see anything of concern, Jody: think you did well, Korea. Crissy Florio: or anything to watch, maybe concern's not a great word, but anything to just kind of keep track of, then maybe from there, you kind of just focus on breast if you're wanting to move forward that. Yeah, that's why I really love that. Jody: Absolutely. Yep. That's what I always tell people. think an upper body is a great starting point. mean, full body is great, but if you don't have anything going on in your legs or your feet, like diabetic neuropathy or anything like that, that you're specifically looking for, upper body is sufficient. And maybe you want to just do that every couple of years, the upper body. But I always tell people at least stick with the breast. You know, that's what I did. I was doing breast, you know, every year. I wasn't feeling good and that's what made she suggested doing the upper body. And, you I was like, wow, that's a lot of information. ⁓ so I just stuck with doing upper body. Some people choose to do full body every year. ⁓ you know, it's just depends on what you want to see. A lot of people want to track, you know, they're implementing a lot of changes, trying to detox from mold or, know, change, they change their gut health around, you know, they're trying to move these patterns down in the downward. ⁓ trend. so by doing another upper body scan, you know, you can see is what I'm doing working. It doesn't happen quickly. ⁓ in some instances, takes a long time to change your heat patterns around sometimes. So, you know, a year doing it, you know, another upper body might be what you want to do. If not, you know, but I always tell people keep up with the breast. Yep. Crissy Florio: Yeah. Do you see a lot of inflammation in thyroid? You know, I figured. Jody: ⁓ yeah, absolutely. Yep. And with women especially, I mean, you know, you girls know the connection between everything in our hormones, the thyroid, the gut health. mean, the neurological component, I mean, it's all connected. ⁓ Crissy Florio: Bye. Mm-hmm. I love when you start to talk about the correlation of your mouth and your teeth to specifically our breast. And I know that you, when you're doing the upper scan, the breast and up, you can see around the jawline too and the teeth and everything. And I have heard multiple times that there is a correlation between when one has root canals or any type of mouth work kind of done with breast cancers. And I actually never had a root canal, but I do have ⁓ fillings. And I know that's not a very good thing and there's a huge correlation. So can you talk a little bit more about that? Jody: Yeah, absolutely. ⁓ There is definitely a link between that. It's not to say everybody that has ⁓ a root canal or is gonna have like a cavitation and that's gonna lead to breast health, but ⁓ it does definitely have a correlation. Not so much ⁓ fillings and stuff, but wherever there's teeth removed, your wisdom teeth, root canals are a big one because they're basically just kind of trapping that bacteria in there. In some instances, it will go into the bone and create like a cavitation. And you will be able to see the mouth shows up really well on thermography. So you will see that heat in there and often it tracks down. And almost 90 some percent of the time, if a woman has a root canal, let's say it's just one, and she also ends up developing breast cancer, almost 90 % of the time in thermography, the root canal and the breast cancer are on the same side. Crissy Florio: That's wild. Wild. Jody: Also heart disease also, there's a connection between that and heart disease. I guess it's just the fact that it kind of goes systemic over time, that bacteria. I had a lady come in a couple of weeks ago. She came to me about six months ago and she saw a biologic dentist and she had all of her melgums removed. She had her root canals removed and cleaned out. ⁓ He sent her to me. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Jody: and we did a thermography scan on her and one area in her mouth still was lighting up really, really hot. She took the images back to the biologic dentist and he did one of the corn beam scans on her and he said, wow, I think I missed something. She had it cleaned up. and she was having chest pain for like eight months and couldn't figure out what the chest pain was coming from. She went in for all kinds of ⁓ testing. They couldn't figure it out. They just thought, we don't know. So she was just dealing with it. And when she went back and showed him the thermography, he said, wow, I missed something. And he went back in and cleaned it out. She came back to me last couple of weeks ago. And she said, as soon as he cleaned it out, a week later, the chest pain completely went away and the heat on the thermoscan was gone. So it's definitely a big one in the teeth and sinuses and everything show up really, really well. Crissy Florio: Wow. My God. That's interesting. That's very interesting. Wow. I'm like just blown away. We're just like, okay, wow. Thank you for that. That's really... Jody: Yeah. Yeah. You don't really connect, know, that everything's connected in the body. It's pretty, you know, mind blowing when things like that happen. It's like, wow. I mean, that's why I love doing it. It's like, wow. And I love to give people ideas of even if like they come in and they only want to do breasts, just for myself, I will take an extra image and look at the mouth just in case. You know, they're not going to report on it because we're not doing a whole ⁓ upper body, but I look. Crissy Florio: We are all connected. ⁓ Thank Okay. Jody: for myself just to see if there is anything. I could like, if I saw something, I'd be like, wow, you you may want to look into this, you know, but it's a big connection. So I do like to look at the teeth. Crissy Florio: It's beautiful. Yeah, that's really kind of you too, you know, to kind of take it a step further rather than just doing what you're told to do, right? Taking it a step further. Jody: I don't ever want to miss anything. You know, I like to give them as much information as I can. And a lot of times, like I had a lady call me today and said, you know, my Cologuard test came back positive. I want to come in for a thermography scan. I was like, ⁓ no, this isn't the test. You know, I'm not going to try and take people's money and promise I can, you know, like look in and see anything, you know, in the colon. This isn't a structural image. So I'm not looking into the colon. Crissy Florio: Yeah. Jody: It's not the test for everything, you know? There are certain things that this isn't the test for, and I'm always honest with people, that's, you know, no, this wouldn't be the greatest test for that. Crissy Florio: Right. Yeah. That's good. Good. Well, if there were three things that you could suggest to our listeners to help with, let's just to help with inflammation, right? To reduce inflammation and help with the lymphatic flow. What would three things that if any of our listeners don't do anything? Right? If they do nothing, like what are three easy things that they can start with today? Jody: Well, obviously with you, Chrissy, we can start with movement and ⁓ breath work. Mind is a ⁓ biggie. Of course, as you know, Chrissy, with us just doing the anti-apple seed project, mean, our mind and our thoughts are huge in our health just overall. toxins, like the littlest things from using clean deodorant, clean products, Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Jody: you know, not these chemical toxic ⁓ makeups and lotions and, you know, just to try to use clean ingredients, a deodorant without aluminum, if you have to even use deodorant. ⁓ Underwires in our bras is huge. ⁓ Try to stay away from those. That traps the lymph. I see a lot of congestion and in thermography, Crissy Florio: toothpaste. Jody: we actually image in that area on the bra line because a lot of stuff does start there because of the limp getting trapped there. Yes. Crissy Florio: Yeah, that constriction. Yeah, and I don't since I had the appointment with you, I don't buy underwear or bras anymore. I don't wear them. No. Yeah, you're fine. Jody: I know it's a big one to wear them too, but once you get out of the habit of wearing them, you could never wear another one again. ⁓ Being braless is actually the best, but I get it. Like we can't all go around without a bra. So, ⁓ that depends, you know, between kids and you know, being 50 some years old might not be the best idea, but ⁓ Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Yeah. The husbands might like it, but that's true. Yeah. ⁓ I have a quick question too. ⁓ With breast implants, obviously there's a lot of women, myself included, because I had a mastectomy, I have breast implants. ⁓ How good is it detecting still inflammation with implants? Jody: It's perfectly fine. That does not matter for thermography. If you have implants, because remember we're not looking for structure. We're looking for those physiological changes. So the structure of that is not blocking anything. Crissy Florio: Bye. That's good to know because a lot of times they can't get that picture with a mammogram. Jody: Yep. And I have a lot of women come to me with, they're having issues after their implants. Tons of women are coming to me because they're having, you know, inflammation in their entire body after having an implant or the implants put in. And they'll go through ex-plant, ⁓ you know, surgery and all that. I mean, there's, and we'll look at their inflammation markers in their body because of that. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. That would be interesting before and after, Yeah, so how's the after? Less information? Jody: ⁓ yeah, some women absolutely. You'll see that ⁓ go on the downward trend for sure. Yeah. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. That's great. That's great. Yeah, no, I've had quite a few friends who've done explants and felt an immediate difference, which is interesting. Jody: I mean, I guess it's all with our toxic load, our genetics, know, who, you know, some people are fine with them for their entire life. And it doesn't matter. Exactly. Crissy Florio: Well, it's like cilantro. Some people can't stand cilantro. I can't. It's a genetic marker where it makes it taste like soap. with anything, your body might not be able to handle it. I don't like surgery. My body did not like surgery at all. It was hard to recover from it. So I can see that. Jody: Yeah. And I don't like to place a lot of, you know, a lot of people focus so much on the BRCA genes. And I was studying to be a genetic health coach after I learned all about my own genetics. And, ⁓ you know, it's a, it's a deep, ⁓ hole to go down, but no matter what your genetics are, it's less than what were they saying? Even Christy, talked about this a lot at the anti-apple seed, ⁓ project. It's. Yeah. Crissy Florio: ⁓ yeah, genetics play a very small part. Yeah, and I can't stand it when physicians harp on that genetic thing. I don't believe it. I didn't believe it 20 years ago, my first cancer patient. I was like, there's no way. Jody: It's very less than like 5 % of, you It's how we live our lives and our epigenetics that really is the focus. So again, going back to what can you do, decreasing that toxic load, moving the lymph, ⁓ detox methods, saunas, because listen, we're polluted everywhere we turn our food, ⁓ the chemicals in the air, know, everything, no matter where we turn, we're getting, you know, chemicals. Crissy Florio: Okay. Mm-hmm. Jody: but just be able to live as clean of a life, no matter what your genetics are, these are things that everybody should be doing. And that's, it's like they say the, you know, that's what pulls the trigger is how we live our life. So. Crissy Florio: Yeah. That's a great thing. ⁓ Yeah. always come back around to the same thing, don't We really do. I feel like every episode we come back to just like it's all the same theme, right? And it's just a matter of just starting. Starting? day at a time. Slowly doing it. Yeah, slowly make those changes. Jody: Absolutely. Yeah, it's baby steps because there's so many things. When I started down the path, you know, I've always been pretty healthy. My husband's a chiropractor and functional medicine doctor. So we've always been healthy, but my genetics, don't detox well. have MTHFR, homozygous and all my other methylation genetics are, ⁓ you know, a little, I have all of them. Yeah. So I don't detox that great. So I changed my health around. Crissy Florio: Slumkey. Jody: sauna, I bought a sauna, I try to do as much detoxing methods as I can to keep those pathways clean and open and flowing as best as they can. So I don't end up having issues down the road. Prevention, know, trying to, yeah. Crissy Florio: Yep. That's it. We just got to show up every day for ourselves and make the small little choices and do what feels aligned for us every single day. Well, Jo, this was amazing. Thank you. Yeah. ⁓ Jody: And it can be very daunting because the water plays a huge factor. think the water is one of the biggest things we can focus on is getting a whole house water filtration system. Crissy Florio: And my husband just changed the filter yesterday after one year, once every year, and he was mortified. It was disgusting. Jody: Yeah, I mean, even your water, your bathing and showering and all that chlorine's being absorbed into us. You know, that, not just the drinking water, but that's a huge one. But the mind overall, I think the main thing is the mind. You know, being mentally healthy is probably the biggest thing for healing and, you know, treating disease. Crissy Florio: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, that internal dialogue, right? If the mind is constantly on overload and you've got what they call the monkey mind, right? Where it's like, bing, bing, it just won't stop. And it's also just not really present and it's not very kind dialogue, right? Then imagine what it's doing to us internally, because we cannot heal a body that we hate. We cannot heal in distress. when our minds are constantly on, that it's just, it's in that sympathetic mode. It's not in the parasympathetic, the rest and, you know, restore type of mode. So the mind is a very huge part in our healing for sure. It's definitely up there and it's one that most people don't really think about. They think about, well, I got to change what I eat, I got to change what I do, I got to change what I put on my body and all of that matters for sure. But none of it really will matter if you don't get your mind right as well. Jody: Yep, absolutely. Crissy Florio: Well, thank you. Yes. Thanks for joining us today. Jody: Thank you. Thanks for having me and I always appreciate working with you. Crissy Florio: Yes, and we'll have all of the links to where people can find you below in the show notes. So definitely give Jodi a ring and schedule your thermography appointments and take your health into your own hands. Jody: I'm always happy to answer any questions. If people just want to call me and pick my brain on it, I'm always happy to talk. Crissy Florio: Beautiful. thank you, Jodi, so much. All right, until next time, guys. Thank you. ⁓ Jody: Thanks, ladies. Bye!