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Fake Trees, Illegal Christmas, and Greatness · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life Audio. Today, y'all talk about that John brings glow
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  Speaker 1: sticks to church and the crowd goes wild. Meanwhile, I
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  Speaker 1: ride in the back of a truck in January with
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  Speaker 1: a three hundred pound television and tell you the tale
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  Speaker 1: of Grandfather Frost, plus a conversation about the dangers and
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  Speaker 1: striving for greatness and why we're really happiest when we
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  Speaker 1: make our life about other people. Today's episode is not
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  Speaker 1: sponsored by Figie Pudding and bring it to us right now,
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  Speaker 1: or we are not leaving the first a word from
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  Speaker 1: our actual sponsor, Johnny. It's the week of Christmas and
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about that. We're here to make this for
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  Speaker 1: you guys, because we know you're going to be traveling
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna be with your families. Are on the
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  Speaker 1: way to be with your families. Just need an escape,
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  Speaker 1: You need to get in, get your game face on.
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  Speaker 2: What do you say about the whole like expectation that
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  Speaker 2: the holidays are supposed to be magical and yet yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they don't always feel magical.
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  Speaker 1: When they are the kids, though, you're trying to make
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  Speaker 1: it magical for the kids.
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  Speaker 2: See Sadie every year for the last like since she's
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  Speaker 2: been a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: Every year she says, doesn't feel like Christmas this.
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  Speaker 2: Year, Like, that's because your viewpoint of what it felt
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  Speaker 2: like as a kid wasn't reality.
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  Speaker 1: Now the year in reality, you should know, right, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that. It is our most powerful drug. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's that's a bummer. I remember the first
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  Speaker 1: Christmas that didn't feel like Christmas to me, and it
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  Speaker 1: was very depressing. I think I was fourteen. I started
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  Speaker 1: watching all the Christmas movies to try to make myself
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  Speaker 1: get in the zone. Uh huh, and then I never
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  Speaker 1: quite made it. How old were you? And it's been
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  Speaker 1: fourteen and it's been down hell ever since. It is
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  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, guys, it is still now. I mean again,
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  Speaker 1: it's about but here's part of it. Christmas is about
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  Speaker 1: other people, because life is about other people. So it's
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  Speaker 1: like you're trying to make magic for them. That's what
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  Speaker 1: it should be though, That's what makes the magic for you, guy.
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  Speaker 1: That's our show. I think we got what we need.
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  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, it really is.
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  Speaker 2: And I've tried to have that talk with her, like
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  Speaker 2: their world is so not others focused, and she's an
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  Speaker 2: only child as well.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: And I keep trying to tell her, but it sounds
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  Speaker 2: I can hear myself, and when I say things, I
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  Speaker 2: know what they sound like to a teenager. They just
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  Speaker 2: sound like cliche.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, no, no, Like the secret to
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  Speaker 1: happiness in life is focusing on others, not yourself. And
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like fortune cooking. Yeah, golly gee, jimmany cricket.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just very not it doesn't have well I no, no, seriously,
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  Speaker 2: try it, like, let's go do something, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, that's that's what makes you come alive. What are
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  Speaker 1: you going to go do? Oh? Nothing. I don't take
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  Speaker 1: her to do anything. I just tell her made her
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  Speaker 1: feel bad. I just tell her movies yourself centered? All right,
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  Speaker 1: what do you want to do? I don't know. Just
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  Speaker 1: keep watching these Christmas movies and see if we can
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  Speaker 1: snap into this. Are these presents? Did you get enough
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  Speaker 1: presents this year? Yeah? Yeah no? But I mean, here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. Christmas is very stressful for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people because they they're thinking of old wounds or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't want to be insensitive to that, but
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  Speaker 1: it is. I think it is a time where you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of refocus yourself on like what are your
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like marriage, Like what your expectations are of
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  Speaker 1: a marriage really affects how you're gonna how quick you
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  Speaker 1: get to disillusionment. Yeah, so like if your expectations are
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  Speaker 1: of like I'm gonna get a bunch of presents and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel like this warm feeling and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have the we're gonna sing carols around the fire, and
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  Speaker 1: then if that doesn't happen, then you're like Christmas is ruined.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we really are trying to get her. And
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't know if we do this well,
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  Speaker 2: but I think you just get into adulthood, you begin
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  Speaker 2: to accept what is and not what you thought should be,
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  Speaker 2: and try to find what's good about what is, because
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  Speaker 2: otherwise you're just constantly trying to You're just going to
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  Speaker 2: be always disappointed by some expectation.
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  Speaker 1: And so like, hey, actually you know we're here. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: it's not okay.
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  Speaker 2: We had a Christmas party, me and you with our
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  Speaker 2: community group, right, And my expectation was that I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna have Johnny bring trivial pursuit correct, and in my mind,
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  Speaker 2: we were all going to be sitting around on the
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  Speaker 2: floor in the living room by a fire. You know,
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  Speaker 2: this long journey of yeah, you know, getting all the
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  Speaker 2: pie pieces and finding our way to the middle, and
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  Speaker 2: Johnny shows up with what you want to tell everybody?
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  Speaker 1: It was a first of all, I went to Target
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  Speaker 1: because I thought, well, they all have it, because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a copy of Trio Pursuit in my house anymore,
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  Speaker 1: because it was it's in some box somewhere. We'd have
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  Speaker 1: an unpacked, right, and I just didn't want to go
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  Speaker 1: through and tryfiing on my old board games. And the
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  Speaker 1: one I had was like from nineteen seventy eight or something.
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  Speaker 1: All the questions are like about the former, like USSR,
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  Speaker 1: we have to know all the Slovenian countries in the
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  Speaker 1: Baltic that aren't even real countries anymore. So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be weird, So I'm going to find
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  Speaker 1: the new version. I'll go to Target. They didn't have it,
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  Speaker 1: and they had the only thing I had found that
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  Speaker 1: was trivia at all was these like flash card game
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  Speaker 1: trivia game and it was like just a bunch of cards. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, well we could play this like
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  Speaker 1: Trivial Pursuit, and well, just imagine that all these are
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  Speaker 1: pipe piece questions. Yeah, so we sat at the table. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I kid you not, guys. One of the questions
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  Speaker 1: was who was the first President of the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them were hard, but some of them were
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  Speaker 1: really We had to eventually resulting yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of like doing whatever the dye told you to, yeah, do,
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  Speaker 2: we had to just pick the hardest question on the card.
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  Speaker 1: Which sometimes all of them were easy. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: did I get the thing I expected?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I expected my wife and I to win
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  Speaker 2: and we mopped the floor of everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked. Actually it was like twenty five to
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  Speaker 1: seven and eight. But the other couples, that's not at
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  Speaker 1: all the score. I was the score. It was not
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  Speaker 1: the score. You had more than eight. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you did. John got so I only went to twenty.
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  Speaker 1: So you didn't. You didn't score twenty five times. That's
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  Speaker 1: because I let up. I didn't let you know. You
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  Speaker 1: let your foot off the gas trivia games, we had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to steal for two points, and we kept stealing.
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  Speaker 1: But was it they get a shocked? Was it what
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  Speaker 1: I expected? No? But was it fun? Sure? It was?
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  Speaker 1: Do I have to go oh, since it wasn't. It's
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  Speaker 1: a disappointment when I was making a point that I
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  Speaker 1: had a great time despite the fact that you failed
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  Speaker 1: us by not bringing the board game I wanted. I
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  Speaker 1: think Target failed us both. I'm shocked that Target didn't
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  Speaker 1: have that game. Targeting not a sponsor. That's a staple.
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  Speaker 1: Did you try Staples? I would have been something.
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  Speaker 2: I was because I bet Walmart at it a year two.
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  Speaker 1: It's just going to Walmart Christmas? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: You take your life in your own hand. It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. I was in Djay's warehouse today and
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  Speaker 1: I was in and you know, you walk around. I
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  Speaker 1: was looking for a camera actually for this podcast, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking about replacing our camera with a nicer camera
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  Speaker 1: and for more higher resolution so you can see the
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  Speaker 1: pores in our faces and be like they really aged
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  Speaker 1: five years? No better camera, but no, it's uh. I
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  Speaker 1: was looking at and I was like, oh, have it.
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  Speaker 1: They have electronics. You can't find cameras in these warehouses
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  Speaker 1: anymore because it's like a very to you know, people
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  Speaker 1: are just using their phones now. I guess there's very
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  Speaker 1: few like camera cameras, and so I was like, all right, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But while I was there, I was looking at the
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  Speaker 1: TVs because you know, these places all have their TVs out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's Christmas. You have Super Bowl parties coming out,
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  Speaker 1: and you can get like an eighty five inch TV
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  Speaker 1: now for like six hundred bucks. It's wild, It's crazy, insane. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I moved in eighty five inch television on my own
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  Speaker 1: the other day. Oh no, And it was fun. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I was shocking. I was thinking about that time.
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  Speaker 2: So you remember the first Super Bowl party we ever
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  Speaker 2: put on when I was youth pastor, uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like we were in we borrowed a
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  Speaker 1: television from somewhere. We were in Alcoa, who borrowed one
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  Speaker 1: of our kids. Their parents were good friends. They were
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  Speaker 1: one of the worship leaders, and there the grandparents. They go,
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  Speaker 1: I got the big screen. Yeah, big screen.
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  Speaker 2: This is nineteen Uh no, this is two thousand and
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  Speaker 2: two thousand, the year two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah one, because I got married two thousand. This
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  Speaker 1: the next February. But it was for the two thousand
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  Speaker 1: season because it was Ravens versus Raiders I think, okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay versus Raiders. Anyway, they this was a rear
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  Speaker 1: projection television with like the red, green, blue lights in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the cabinet. It was a big cabinet,
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  Speaker 1: it was. It had to be at least three hundred
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  Speaker 1: pounds it was. And we put it in the back
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  Speaker 1: of a truck. By the truck and I rode in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the truck to steady it in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of Jane. It was freezing, Yeah, while I drove
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  Speaker 1: super slow for these kids.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you think they appreciate it. Probably, I
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  Speaker 2: think they did. They're actually pretty gracious. Yeah, towards us.
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  Speaker 2: Kids have been really good.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks guys. But I mean I was thinking though, now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: could you We couldn't even imagine the back. Now you
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  Speaker 1: can hold that with a pinky. Yeah, eighty five inch television.
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  Speaker 1: Now the thing is, what is it? What is the
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  Speaker 1: what's the big Now? If you go to somebody's house,
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  Speaker 1: they have to have like one hundred inch television run.
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  Speaker 1: It has to take up the whole wall for you
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  Speaker 1: to be like shocked.
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  Speaker 2: You know what my wife wants, she wants one of
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  Speaker 2: those picture frame television.
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  Speaker 1: You've told me this and I don't understand it at all.
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  Speaker 1: So you can have artwork up and feel like this
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  Speaker 1: is a fireplayer. Oh, this is Sunflowers by Van Go
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  Speaker 1: stop it. It's just a TV with a frame around it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll build you a nice frame for the TV you have.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you will, Johnny, It'll still be a Roku.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh, I won't have to get it eventually. But
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  Speaker 1: there was some sketch the other day about Trump. It
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  Speaker 1: was an Onion story about Trump uh sending the National
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  Speaker 1: Guard into Roku City because there was there was a
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  Speaker 1: mayor do well, did you know the city? What it
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  Speaker 1: crawls across? And you see every time and you'll see
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  Speaker 1: like a police car and you'll see a fire and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, something's wrong there. Hell, I'm glad we
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  Speaker 1: can laugh about that in some way. Yeah, that's sad,
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  Speaker 1: that's great.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I think I think that the
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  Speaker 2: television will eventually come. Because my wife rarely asks for
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  Speaker 2: like tech things. Yeah, that's not really her thing. So
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  Speaker 2: if she wants something.
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  Speaker 1: Then you get it for anyway. And you're like, look
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  Speaker 1: what I got us, and she's like, I don't even
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  Speaker 1: need as you go, I'll take it. Oh you do that? No, okay,
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: what do you get your wife's and you could keep nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, that's that's a you know, beardrum.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you don't remember the Simpsons where Homer got
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  Speaker 1: Marge a bowling ball and then set Homer on it.
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  Speaker 1: He had it, he had his name. But she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even bowl. Yeah. I think she. I think
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  Speaker 1: she left him that episode. Oh, I think she Actually
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  Speaker 1: they separated. It was a dark, dark episode. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: finally she'd had it with him. I watched one the
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  Speaker 1: other reconciled. Everything's fine with margin Homer. I watched one
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  Speaker 1: of the new ones the other day and it's still
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  Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, what forty years? Yeah, you know what's
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  Speaker 1: interesting about those shit? You know, we should talk about
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  Speaker 1: this when we come back, because I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this is like a larger popular culture things, a
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: lot of conversation. But before that, John, listen, it's the holidays. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and listen, we don't we get a break sometimes, but
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  Speaker 1: we don't get a break from needing to keep the
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  Speaker 1: lights on. No, We've got to pay these bills, and
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: that means we need advertisers, and we appreciate them so much.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a minute in here from a few of
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  Speaker 1: our finesposters enter back. I mean, I'm really fascinate about
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  Speaker 1: where you're about to take. It was a video I
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: saw the other day and it was talking about how
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  Speaker 1: these legacy brands like the Simpsons, Star Wars, things like this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay they started. Here's the reason they've changed and why.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people are kind of like, it's not the same.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the same, it can't be the same. And
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  Speaker 1: this person was making a case for it. He goes,
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  Speaker 1: when you watch Star Wars from the seventies, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a seventy eight or whenever it came out. It was
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  Speaker 1: made by people who had consumed all this weird popular
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  Speaker 1: culture that you could never fathom. They had watched samurai
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  Speaker 1: movies that they drew from. They had watched war movies
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  Speaker 1: they drew from, They watched documentaries about World War Two.
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of like what Darth Vader was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a not see allegory. Okay, So they had
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  Speaker 1: done all that, they combined this into this weird universe
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  Speaker 1: that became Star Wars. The people who make Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: products now grew up on Star Wars. They're making like
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  Speaker 1: a copy of the copy. Yeah, and so like there's
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  Speaker 1: they've lost a little bit of that thing that made
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  Speaker 1: it so weird and wonderful. And the same with that
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  Speaker 1: they were using the Simpsons as an example, the people
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  Speaker 1: who grew up on the Simpsons. If you watch the
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: earlier Simpsons where like Conan was writing and some of
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: these guys, yea, they would reference the weirdest stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like Anny Williams Christmas specials sold advertising and fly by
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  Speaker 1: Night insurance salesman on television and weird stuff. Now, people
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  Speaker 1: that write for the Simpsons grew up watching the Simpsons,
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  Speaker 1: and they go, well, I know what Homer would do here,
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  Speaker 1: because when I was a kid watching Homer, this is
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  Speaker 1: how he acted. And so it's lost some essence of itself.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way to keep it that way because the
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  Speaker 1: initial weirdness is not there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if he trained somebody to be entertained by one thing,
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  Speaker 2: then they can't be entertained by that one thing forever, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have.
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  Speaker 1: We're built for disillusion. I get that. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: the part of it that bugs me about Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: fans is like they're constantly just like tearing each other
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  Speaker 1: apart about stuff that really doesn't matter because it's like
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  Speaker 1: a religion to them. I don't love that, but I
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  Speaker 1: will agree that when you build a culture on something
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  Speaker 1: that's built from all these disparate things, and you've brought
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  Speaker 1: it together to make this one weird thing, and then
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  Speaker 1: somebody else comes along and watches that one weird thing
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  Speaker 1: for twenty years and then goes, I can write this.
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  Speaker 1: You go, well, maybe you can, but probably not. It's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting. It's interesting idea. Well.
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  Speaker 2: I always thought it was very ambitious to continue the
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  Speaker 2: franchise in the way that they did, and I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: really pleased with what they did in terms of some
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  Speaker 2: of it's so good. I don't think J. J. Abrams
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  Speaker 2: could have done any better of a job than he did.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't love the second They were fine, but
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: then like, well jajm Was didn't do the second one.
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  Speaker 1: He did the thirst, So I'm saying I did the second.
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  Speaker 1: That Ryan Johnson one is the one that body struggles
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  Speaker 1: with because it kind of disrupted the whole flow of
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: the thing, and then he had to come like play
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  Speaker 1: patchwork with the third one. And yeah, I didn't like
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  Speaker 1: all the little boats they pulled the end, but again,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't ruin my life or anything like I destroyed
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  Speaker 1: my childhood. No, that's so weird, but I I will
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  Speaker 1: like I like the ones they've made for like the
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  Speaker 1: Disney version, like the Mandalorian series were good. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: some I've not watched all of them, like and or
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  Speaker 1: I'm not watched, but they're all like they're really really
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  Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, but it's just I just do think
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  Speaker 1: that like your source material if it is Star Wars,
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  Speaker 1: and you're also worried, like every time you make a
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  Speaker 1: move in the Star Wars universe, you're imagining like twenty
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  Speaker 1: thousand nerds. Second guessing you, Right, it has to affect you.
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  Speaker 2: Right in order for you to not yeah, like you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to reach an audience because you're making a product,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, if the audience can't be pleased, it has
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  Speaker 2: to really.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind a message when you just like to
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  Speaker 1: preach sometimes, right, And I saw you preach this Sunday
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  Speaker 1: and I sat there and second guess You're like, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way Luke Skywalker would have done that. I was sick. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well we still are. You can hear we have a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a yeah, I have a deep voice today.
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  Speaker 2: And then Abby, our worship director, went down sick, so
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  Speaker 2: I had to sing a bunch of songs.
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  Speaker 1: I was when I walked in and you were singing,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, this guy's singing and then
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: he's got to get up and preach. This is like
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: it's the gauntlet.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: But it worked all the way to the last two minutes,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: and then my voice started giving away. I started coughing.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: But I made it all the way, like to the prayer.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: And my supposition was that you were five minutes too
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: long in your sermon. God's saying like, I shouldn't have
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: because like that, no preachers like we repeat, you do
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: the whole thing where you go like and I say again,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: like preachers have to say, you go. You shouldn't have
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: said it again. That was one too many agains. Let
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: people like, let it stand.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I felt like Sunday, it's interesting, I can always tell.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I felt like there was a sweet spot around minute
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: probably twenty five, where I was really getting them. You know,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: the whole sermon was about thirty five. Yeah, but can
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: you just stop at the sweet spot? Do you just go, well,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: get your got you? That's what comedians did. Yeah, I
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: know in the air. I don't know if you know this.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: That's it for me. These are two different careers, different mediums.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: One respectable and then yours. Yeah, but no, I think
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's so interesting. I really do believe that
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: nobody listens it. Yeah, no, I believe this is very
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is a little dark, okay, but like
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: go with you. I it's very freeing. It's very liberating
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: because I have to. But I really am like, probably
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: no one's going to listen or remember anything I say today,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: because I've been doing this twenty seven years now.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Your whole thing is like the all the youth sermons
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you did, and then you'd go back and ask a kid,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: can you remember one sermon? Well, I'm aware it's not
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: that that ever got. Now, I will say, they remember
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the moment. So there's a few moments you did and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: now day ago, I remember when you did the object listen,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: where you held the football the whole sorry, the thing
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: on fire. It's never Yeah, you broke the glow stick
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and it glowed, and I understand that over time sometimes
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: we got to be broken. For a lie, that was
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the best thing I ever did. When you did it,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the room gasped, Yeah, even though they had to have
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: seen a glowstick before, right, No, they didn't know. No,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: how I did it was you weren't there for the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: first one. Oh that's right, you had it in bubble wrappers.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So I put it in bubble wrap and they just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: thought it was a roll of bubble wrap because I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: had it so thick. And so it was the very
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: first night that I did. We were in the chapel.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: What made you decide to do it that way versus
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: just like having the glow stick because I didn't want
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to know was in there. Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be like, you know, you feel like
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: life is hurting you, and I was making it pop
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and this and that. You know, life's hard and it's
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just this pain and this pain. And then one day, man,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: it just feels like you're just broken. And I went
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: to snap and they didn't know it was in there,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden because it was dark in
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: the room, and this thing just lit up in my
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: hand like this just it was green.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And they were like, it was like because back then
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you witch it was so it was great and about Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: well it would be hard not to try to do
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: something like that every week after that experience, though, Right,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: did you not have a hard time next week being
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like what can I do this week?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: The top I had the you know, the seventh part
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: of me, which is, you know, the I call PJ
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the fun go do those kinds of things.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Guy. When do we get to meet him? He was
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: around for a long time. I'm trying to bring him back.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: PJ was a lot of fun year, but DJ was
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: always again not my primary part. He's the part I'm
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: in that I have fun and make all this work,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: But the primary part of me is always the teacher.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Like it's the I want to do the same thing
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: over time so long that eventually it's just culture for
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: you or it's just right. And I think that's the
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: whole speaking thing, Like it's not really about them getting everything.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: It's that like if you ask, it's funny. Alison, our
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: friend Alison was telling me this today and they were
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: talking about some things about like I almost fascinated to
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: hear the staff or the younger staff especially talk about
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: their perception of the way that Andrew and I lead
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and what we say and what our messages are here
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: not just sermons, but like what's the messaging of our
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: church in terms of you know, obviously a community first,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: community centered place, a grace first place, you know, where
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: truth follows grace, so that your life can be transformed
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: in community, you know, recovery. And then you know that
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: we feel we have an obligation to speak for the poor,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: for those who can't speak for themselves, to speak out
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: against injustice, to speak out against Christian nationalism, to speak
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: out and she she's naming the things, and it's very
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's very clarifying for me to go because it's not
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like I had just one message where we do that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: It's that, okay, over time if somebody really feels that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what they're getting from this, and I think that is
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a mission accomplished. But it can't be accomplished in just
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: one sitting, and it would be over time.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: So I take back what I said, Johnny. Maybe it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: maybe they are listening. Wasn't as dark as I thought
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: it was going to be. Yeah, I think you're doing
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Oh it was good to be here. I felt like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: such a crest when I came in. I literally, as
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what we are, we're creasters. Well,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Bethany walked over right before we started. She goes,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: look at all these creaters which if you don't know
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: what that is, dear listener, that is a person who
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: goes strong Christmas in Eastern Easter, which I don't mean
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: to be that, but I'm in I'm in a church usually,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: but like I'm gone on a lot of Sundays, so
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think the last service I was here really was Easter. No,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you're kidding, I'm not kidding. Literally I walked in on
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Sunday and I was like, weird Johnnyston's Easter. These freaking creased. Well,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: unless listen, dear listener, unless you are a professional comedian
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: gone on the road every weekend, then we'll allow it. Actually,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I love the christ grace, little grace for me. Roy
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Stone used to always want to say. I can't say
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: exactly as Roy would say, that's where you've been you
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: been since Easter? Then happy Easter? Were you been since Christmas? Anyway?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: That's just those behind the scenes kind of funny minister
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: h Well, no, I don't know it's but I did.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: But I you know, I'm preaching at a church on
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: this Sunday. I gotta get my voice back because I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: do three services. You get my n I'm sure I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: need your notes due Just take them. I'm just gonna
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do. You're gonna do great.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna fun Are you doing the lower through the
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: ceiling it podcast listeners, guys.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Have a sermon fact bubble wrap something that people gas.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I go, I can't remember the objects. I just knew
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to break these, like I couldn't remember
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the biblical principle. I'm just like, I just thought. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: just thought. They're like, that's my time. Just step down
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and like, all right, let's do a worship song. Get
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: That would be a funny little sketch, Like just a
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: guy that can't remember the Bible parts.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Just made a potato gun for no reason. Sometimes you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: use a potato but he forgot that part. You know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: sometimes you get launched, but he just forgot and just
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: brought a potato gun to church. Right, guys, anybody, oh
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: my gosh, anyway, don't bring a potato gun to church. No,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: they will definitely, that's not right. We don't. Yeah, Hey,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's about that time. It's my segment. It's the quote
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of the week. Maybe it's not the last one of
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the year, quote of the but it's getting close. Here.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It's my segment they call they talked about that boys. E.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Stanley Jones was a missionary to India wrote a bunch
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of books in the mid twentieth century. But there's really
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: one line from this. I'm gonna read the whole thing,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but I want to read their first the one line.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I want to emphasize. It's just so perfect. I mean,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you could put this up on your wall. We grow
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: small trying to be great. We grow small trying to
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: be great. And the whole quote is but what difference
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: is there in this? And the man who finds himself
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the price of a new car each year when he
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: does not need it. He says, giving yourself a fine
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: when you get a new car. That hurts right now,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: because we did get a fairly new car. He too,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: must keep up appearances, must appear great. Or the student
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: who swaggers because he thinks it will make him great
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: in the eyes of his fellows, but it doesn't work.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It ends in futility. We grow small trying to be great.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: We toil in rowing, trying to get to the land
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of greatness, and end nowhere. Then Jesus comes again. We
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: fear him, for we fear he will ask us to
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: be servant of all in order to be great, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: we do not want to serve, we want to be served.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But still he comes. Then we let him in. We
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: forget greatness as we bend with him to serve the
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: rest and low. As we bend we rise, the servant
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: of all becomes the greatest of all. We have arrived. Wow,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: that's so good, so good. From a book called Victoria's Living.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But just you know, there's always things I think you
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and I having interesting. I started to think about, like
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the weird career paths that we've both sort of fallen
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: into at times, you know, a lot of ups and
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: downs and other things. But you know, there's a book
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I'm about to start writing that you know all about,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and I've had to wrestle, you know, with what I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: should do or not do with it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm excited to do it.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: But it does cause me to stop and ponder, like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you're looking at your like you're looking at some other person,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: like you're not looking at yourself. And and kind of
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: like I said about Sadie, like in the end, the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: things that have brought I guess satisfaction or contentment have
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: never been the things when I was young that I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: thought would have And I know this sounds maybe it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a big deal to you guys, but there was a
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: time as an author where I was told early on,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: if you get on one of the big morning shows
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: on national television, that's the thing, Like, that's how.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You really make it as an author.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: And so when we booked a Good Morning America for
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: that not So Black and White book.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I mean it really. I mean I was old enough
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to not be like starry eyed about all of it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it was a job.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: And all those things, but it was fascinating being that
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: age and not the young guy who wanted it, because
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I was noticing along the way, this.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Is nothing like I thought it would be. Uh. It was.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Seeing Reggie in New York was more fun, right than
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: doing the actual event, and certainly spending the week in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: New York with my family was one of the greatest
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: memories of my life. But checking my emails after the
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: thing to see how the book sales did or whatever
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: was a low point of the trip for me. Yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: because I think when you're worrying about success or greatness,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: for me, it wasn't greatness at that point.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I think, I think hopefully.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Impact Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a lot of that's
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: just died in me really painfully over time. I'm glad,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: you know, but the Lord has just let it be
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: crushed and it hurts. It's hurt really, really badly. But
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he did, you know. I'm sure there's more
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to die, but.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it just like you, that's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: why you're supposed to just you think you just keep
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: making things and then like let let them fall where
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they may. But you just keep making things. You can't
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: be like this will be the thing that I'll be
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: known for though, Like, just keep making things. Yeah, you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: let the impact be what the impact is. And because
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it's you know, you never know. I think like Norm McDonald,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: who's I think is probably one of the best comedians
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: ever to live. He's probably in my Mount Rushmore of comics.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: He's such a dry comic. But he would talk about
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: how he hated important comedy. Yeah, and I think what
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: he meant. What he meant was because I think comedy
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is important to us, and comedy can be important, but
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: when you catch it trying to be important, it's very
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: gross and you feel somebody has an agenda. Yeah, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the jokes are just this utility. It's a conveyance for
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: their political ideology, or if it's a conveyance for their
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: beef that their acts to grind with the world or
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: their therapy. Yeah, is this comedy bit and you're kind
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of just beholden to it. It feels very manipulative and wrong.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: But I've seen comedy sets where I go that was
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: an important comedy set, but it wasn't because, like I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: remember being in a show in ninety four, we wouldn't
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sell Pearl Jam. And then we're at their peak. There
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was a second record so or after ten, so it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: was like their second record, and we saw them outdoors
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: in Greensboro, North Carolina, and Eddie Vedder starts going on
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this weird tirade. It was an election year and he
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: starts going on this thing and he goes, there's a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: place I can see it. It's I'm there and you're there,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And he was basically trying to be bonn It was
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: very I can tell where he's going. And then he
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: brought out Gloria Steinhem to speak to the crowd at
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a rock concert. And when I tell you, they ran
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: for the bathroom. They ran to the bathroom, I mean,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the porta potty line got insane, and I was like,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: this is what happens, dude, I'm sorry, this is not
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: why we're here. I mean, I get you can have
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: an impact this way, but this is the wrong tack.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Why not today? And so it was just funny to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: watch it. But I've been in I've been in show,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and I've written jokes where I thought, this is kind
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: of an interesting Sometimes you write a joke and you go,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't know I felt this way about that. Yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to watch your your personality evolve
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: when you go, oh, I didn't realize I felt so
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: strongly clearly, I feel strongly about this, or I wouldn't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: have written such a pointed thing. Yeah, sometimes I don't
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: do those jokes because I don't want to come off
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: as like the same thing when you do church stuff
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: where you go like, all right, we're gonna do this
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna get them going. You'll tell your funny
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: story and then you make the turn and that's when
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: we get them or whatever, and you're like, I'm okay
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: with Like, we do have places we want to get
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: people's attention. We want to make an impact, we want
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to make a persuasive argument for the gospel. But it's
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like I hate the idea that we're sitting in rooms
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make the hook and
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: get their email addresses and all the stuff that we
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: It's like that part of it I don't love and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I wish that we could wash our hands of that
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: side of it. But part of it, like you said,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: is like we're trying to be big in some way
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and we make ourselves smaller by that effort. That effort
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: has to be pure or it's gonna end up the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: wrong way.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean I think that you end up small.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I think it means that you're doing something small. I
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: can feel it in the act of it. Yeah, like
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: even things I have to do. Like I'll be honest
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: with you, and if if you're into marketing, thank God
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: for you because I need you on my team because
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I am not great at it because there's a part
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: of me and I don't. I think it's because I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: just wired differently. For I'm trying to find value from
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: this that should not be found and for other people
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, we're just getting this message to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: more people. And so when you're wired in that way
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: of everything is somehow tied to my identity.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: What story you tell me, it's kryptonite, man, and I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: can feel it like you do. You grow small in
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: every effort to be great, and so it's really a strange.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I had a meeting with an author this week and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, look, I'll just remind you what I
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: tell everybody I work with. I am a book writer,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: not a book seller. You got to know the difference.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I had to learn the difference. There are times I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: have to sell books, right, That's not what I got
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: into this for. I thought that would be some big
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that's the kryptonite for me. And so yes, I'll do
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: what's necessary for the job. But where I'm going to
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: enjoy this or where we're going to find the value
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: in it is going to be regardless of what it sells.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I just got a chance to do a book with
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a friend, you know, and he needed some help on
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: his manuscript deadline. And it's not like a normal deal
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that I would do. And it's been fun like to
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: to be able to It's a great book. He's he's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: got great content. I mean, he's so much better than Johnny.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. But like, you know this, like
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it's like there's a purity to like I'm not I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: not trying to go hit a home run or something
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  Speaker 2: here with what the book does.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I'm shutting at home run homebly with the way that
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I write. That's what I want to Well, when you
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: have the kind of money John has, you can start
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: taking some of these pro Bowl gigs. So if you
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: have something that you want John's help with, just know
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: that you can send that submission to Johnny at John
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: w John. Let's do my segment. So let's start with
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Johnny's old jokes. We call it joke about that John
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a few Christmas themed street jokes for today's episode. Oh John,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: do you know the difference between the Christmas alphabet and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the ordinary alphabet? Yeah, there's no l The Christmas alphabet
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: has no element. Johnny Danny Johnny John Danny had recently
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: passed his driving test and decided to ask his clergyman
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: father if there was any chance of him getting a
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: car for Christmas, which was yet some months away. Okay,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: say his father, I'll tell you what I'll do if
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: you can get your A level grades up to a's
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and b's, your Bibles, your Bible, study your Bible, get
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: your haircut. I'll consider the matter very seriously. A couple
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: months go by, Danny goes back to his father, who said,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I'm really impressed by your commitment to your studies. Your
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: grades are excellent. The work you've put into your Bible
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: studies very encouraging. However, I have to say I'm very
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: disappointed you haven't yet cut your hair. Danny was a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: smart young man who had never was never lost for
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: an answer. Look, Dad, in the course of my Bible studies,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I've noticed in the irations that Moses, John the Baptist, Sampson,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: even Jesus had long hair. Yes, I'm aware of that,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: replied his father. But did you notice they also walked
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: wherever they went? John? It was Christmas. Even a supermarket,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a woman was anxiously picking over the last few remaining
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: turkeys in the hope of finding a large one, and desperation,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: she called over a shop assistant and said, excuse me,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to these turkeys getting me bigger? No, he replied, they're
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: all dead. John. Why is Christmas just like any other
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: day of the office because you end up doing all
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the work and the fat guy in the suit gets
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: all the credit. Hey, overlord, I hope you're listening to
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Andrew right now. I'm just kidding and John, finally, it
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: was coming up on Christmas and the judge was in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: a jolly frame of mind. Now, then please tell me
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: what is the charge against you. Well, I was caught
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: doing my Christmas shopping very early, replied the man and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: the dog. That doesn't seem like in the offense to me.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by very early? Well, you're on
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: her at the shop not open. Go these Christmas jokes.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I hope that puts you in a holly, jolly state
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of mind. Dear listener, let's close with this week in
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Christmas History. We call it talk about then Christmas style
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Christmas style clause. Sorry, I was trying to hear John,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: did you know that the first fake Christmas trees were
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: made of dyed goose feathers? In late nineteenth century Germany,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: people began fashioning bright green feather feather branches. Quote ungo,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm putting air quotes to mimic evergreens and protect local
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: forests from over harvesting. But a bunch of woke. That's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: why we got to pillage the earth. These people had
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: no idea what it. Meanwhile, the geese are like, hey,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: what about over foresting us? How about preserving the geese?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: The result, John was a surprisingly charming, fluffy precursor to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: today's artificial trees. Can you imagine a fluffy little goose
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: feather tree? You thought tree really would get me down? Hello,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: it's this thing on. That's our show, Johnny, Johnny calling you, Johnny, John.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Holly and mistletoe have ancient pagan roots. Oh tear, they
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: used to ward off evil spirits during winter salt. That's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: what people believe. They warded off evil. You said it
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: like it was true. Everyone knows. It's odd though that
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: they they've remained though, but it's like they got pervy
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: or like, hey, long world, don't ward off these you
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: know what? A war off of evil spirit? Won't you
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: come give us a kiss? Like it just got a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: little more crass. They still missletoe is still there, but
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: we're maybe he was a kiss the whole time. That
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: maybe that's what spirit do. We just wrote a Hallmark movie.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I don't think you can't
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: use Witchcraft in the Hallmark Well here.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: John, Sanna wasn't always red. He was depicted in blue, green,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: or purple. You know what made them eventually get read
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that we know today? What was it? Coca Cola. Coca
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Cola's popular illustrations swayed public sentiment, and so now we
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: kind of believe that Santa was always red. Nope, used
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to be purple and green and blue depending on what interesting.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Interesting that the color didn't matter as much, you know
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Did you know, John, that jingle bells was the first
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: song played in space? I did not know that. You
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: believe that we've been to or if you believe other
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: people were already doing it in space before we do?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: We know what songs that the aliens were playing? Yeah,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be weird if they also had jingle bells, that's a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: lot of interest to be barb barb, jingle bells, jingle
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they really big parallel inspiration there?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Hey when they say bleep blo. Okay, John, here's an
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: interesting one. Alabama was the first state to recognize Christmas.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: It holds a unique place in holiday history. It was
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the first US state to officially recognize Christmas back in
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: eighteen thirty six, Alabama declared December twenty fifth a legal holiday,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: long before many other states had followed suit. It wasn't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: until eighteen seventy that Christmas had become a federal holiday,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: but Alabama helped pave the way. Oklahoma was the last
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: US state to make it illegal holiday in nineteen oh seven.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Sloma's holding out. I'm really I guess that means it
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: means not recognized it, but recognize it as like a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: day off work.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I don't know, I'm going back a lake.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: George Washington crossing the Delaware on Christmas Eve, right, so
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you know they're celebrating he was working, though technically is
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: true he was working hard.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Take the day off.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe you guys should enjoy your freedom.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Thanks to g W. Here's another one John. From sixteen
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to fifty nine to sixteen eighty one, the Massachusetts Bay Colony,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: including Boston, prohibited the celebration of Christmas and forcing a
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: five shilling fine for anyone caught feasting or skipping work.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: They were really like hardcore of like you're lazy, You've
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: become lazy. I think it was because of like the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: excessive consumerism. It said Puritan leaders viewed the holiday as
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: a superstitious pagan tradition lacking scriptural basis, often associated with rowdy,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: immoral and wasteful revelry. How we just call that Amazon
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Prime Day. Key. The key details of the band included
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the law which the General Court enacted called the Penalty
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: for Keeping Christmas on May eleven, sixteen fifty nine. Creative
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: name for that pared to the day a regular work day,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: so they're like, you need to be at work, the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: fleet floor jingle bath, the reasons the Puritans aim to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: prevent disorders quote disorders, drunkenness, and what they deemed pagan
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: influence celebrations. The duration of the law remained in place
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: for twenty two years until sixteen eighty one through the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: formal legalized ban, though the former legalized band was lifted
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: primarily due to pressure from the English Crown rather than
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: a change in local sentiments. So the people were still like, nne,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't do it. Revelry is not
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: our thing anymore, and so that the Crown was like,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: you know what, we gotta keep your remay have gone
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: too far, And that despite the repeal, the social stigma
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: against Christmas persisted in New England, and it did not
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: become popular or an official holiday in Massachusetts until the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: mid nineteenth century. These people hung on to their bitterness
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: against Christmas. Wow, what's the deal? Message Usetts. I don't know.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: And there is an attitude when you go, I mean
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I have trying to impugne our Boston listeners. Let me
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: tell you, but listen your history doth saith that you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: doth hate. But you better watch out and you better
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: not cry. He knows sees you when you're sleeping. Don John,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: did you know that fruitcake can actually last a lifetime?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: It might be the most durable dessert on the planet. Literally,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Thanks to its dense texture, generous dose of sugar, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: alcohol preserved ingredients, a traditional fruitcake can last for decades.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Some families have cakes that are over a century old.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: You may not want to take a bite of it, though,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: as a caveat. My dad love fruitcakes. Really yeah, it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: was like a thing, man, he'd get on. There's a
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: gel and a gumminess to it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: It's basically like a bunch of candies all pressed together
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: into a shaken.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Together and running over to make a room for more.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: John jingle Bells jingle Belling bell Your jingle Bells All
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: was originally a Thanksgiving song. Okay, come on, think about it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Think about the words. The words do not talk about Christmas.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: So one of the world's most iconic Christmas songs was
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not written for Christmas at all. Jingle Bells originally was
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: composed in the eighteen fifties as a Thanksgiving tune celebrating
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: winter sleigh rides. It's catchy rhythm and joyful imagery caught
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on so quickly that it became a holiday favorite and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: eventually a Christmas classic. But it does not talk about Christmas.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: It's talking about dashing through the snow, and a lot
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of that stuff happens in November. I'll say, we don't
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: get snow, and you need to get out more. You're
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: having these little tender Tennessee Christmases. Laura Snow and Colorado
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to my rooftop will ever see. Thank you Amy Grant
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: for that. I don't know if she wrote that song,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: but she definitely made it popular. Tender, tense, what she
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: wants to think of it, Amy Grant, right, it was
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: really sweet. Every year. She's a really good singer. That
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was a great Yeah, my mom loved that song. Yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: John Santa Claus has different names around the world. He
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: may be a universal symbol of Christmas cheer, but he
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: goes by many different names around the world. Do you
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: know some of the names. In Germany, he's known as
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Chris Kringle, An Italian children of wait Libi Fama Labifana,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: a kind old woman who delivers gifts on Epiphany. Okay,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: so Labi FANA's the female Santa of sorts over there.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: In France, festive joy comes from Peay and Noel. Oh,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and in Russia, my favorite presents are brought by Desh
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: duca morose. Sounds very harsh. Bolivia we called him, huh,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Papa Noel, Papa Noel. Yeah, so that makes that makes sense.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Taking doing Christmas for the kids in Bolivia was some
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of the great Were you there for any of those? Yeah? Yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: some of the greatest memories ever. I want to say that. Uh,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it's not just Douka Maraz is also known as Grandfather Frost, oh,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: which I kind of dig That sounds like a cool character.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I can't get into, like a little Sunday Morning you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Christmas show around Grandfather Frost. The mythology of Grandfather Frost
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and his backstore, the universe of Grandfather Frost.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it feels as if like in the end
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some sort of revolution or something.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: And the workers big fur hat. Yeah it was. Yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: you got the means of production are very important Christmas.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Somehow it figures in we've got to seize the means
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: of production anyway, our apologistic grandfather Frost, and we must
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: stop the oligarchy. Okay, okay. Ebenezer Scrooge's famous line John
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: almost never existed before settling on the iconic by Charles
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Dickens originally wrote Scrooge's signature dismissal as by Christmas. Thankfully,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Dickens revisited giving one of literature's most quotable grumpy gripes
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: as a phrase that's become synonymous with holiday crankiness. By
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Christmas is not nearly I said, baha bug this week
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: to somebody. Yeah, it's one of those feels good. Did
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: you did it ironically? You're not really a total judgment, yeah, John.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Finally for our Christmas history, tensil was once banned. Yeah,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that's right. From a shiny, colorful tensil is undoubtedly one
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: of the quintessential Christmas decoration wasn't always this way. Tensil
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: arrived on the scene in Germany in the sixteen hundred,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: where it was made from real silverst forward a few
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: hundred years, the decoration became banned in the US because
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: it contained lead. Today, tensil is made from safer materials.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Is my favorite line. Safer materials like plastic and aluminum,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: so you can string it up without concern. Yea, we
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: say that with microplastics in our streams.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: We're basically like, you can go down there's coral reefs
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: that are now like covered in plastic.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: But we are a tinsil. Yeah, we we are the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: kind of flashlight down my throat. You'd be like, oh,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: look at that. Oh this sounded like a sermon. Guys,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: we are the tinsil. I mean, just let your light shine.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: You know, you're not the source of the light, but
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: it's reflecting off of you. We'll delivering, if you will,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: for the world to see. Sure, you're poisoned by the
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: ways of this world. Sure lifespans may be negatively affected,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: but hey, you know, but for that brief moment, we
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: will glow none like a broken glowstick. And then that's
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: when somebody would get up and start playing like three
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: chords on the keyboard behind you. Did you hear him Sunday?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So I was playing keys, Yeah, and you know I
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: have the I call it ultra music keys. You just
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: rotate between four chords. But you're doing it creatively, right,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you know, And and really one of my favorite things
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to do. Sure, you know, I just don't get to
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: do it very much anymore. Well, sometimes if you do
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: it too well, he gets the speaker going, oh.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And he's getting energy from it. He thinks like we
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: got to keep it. He's deriving. He actually said, he goes,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to go and tell the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: story just I mean, John, the music already sounds like
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's he told an extra story. As he was into
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the story, I could tell he was like, shouldn't have
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: done this? This story is one story too many. It's
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: too late, you're into the story.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: It felt responsible, Yeah, a little bit like I let him, hey,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: come on.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Pastor this emotional manipulation that you see, it's so prevalent
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: a minor right now and gear moving to the four
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and then walking on down a lot of people think
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: it's the tinsel of the liturgy. They do. They happened,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: once banned, but now accepted and safe thriving. Yeah. Well, anyway,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: that was a very educational Christmas. We learned something, we
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: celebrated together. Yeah, we bummed them out a little bit,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: probably with some of our Yeah, there's a lot of
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: we're like, look, it is what it is. Just go
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: be with your family. Yeah, sorry about that. This is
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: us in our forties, like we can't. I'm fifty one. Sorry,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: this is me and my forties and Johnny, you wanted
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: me a whole other decade. I'm old. I'm trying. Listen.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: You're younger than me, though, old as old as you feel. Listen,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: if the Christmas spirit lives in us, are we ever
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: really old? I mean, Sam is like fifteen hundred years old? Sorry,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Papa Noel, I think you mean what douche Camar? Grandfather Frost?
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Grand I want my grandkids to call me that grandfather Frost. Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you gotta get a little You gotta let some of
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: this white come in again like that just for men.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Go you gotta let it come on in. Grandfather. I
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: rule with an iron fist, is what it sounds like.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And everyone knows me. I don't do that. I rule
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: with like a plastic fist. Safer it is safer. Real silver.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was interesting to me. Was silver just
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: so ubiquitous on trees. Well, and they had candles on
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: They said that they did it, but originally because candles
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: on the end of the limbs, it gave like a shimp,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: something for the light to shimmer off and bounce off. Guys,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: it itself Catch five.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I try real hard, and like Advent messages, not to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: incorporate so much of the modern Christmas thing, because I
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: do recognize it's not at all the same.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But I did it a little bit Sunday.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: The only thing I'll do is talk about unwrapping the gift,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: you know, realizing I'm not sure gifts were ever.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure they were wrapped in ancient cultures. I'm
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: not sure, but they just roll them out. Here you go,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: there's your bread. But you know it, well, it was
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: perfect for the like I used the Christmas vacation where
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: he brings in the gift for his boss. All shaped
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the same, the ultimate, but you can't tell what Jesus
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: really was. The God of the Old Testament is love.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You can't really tell, you can only tell the shape
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: and so you know, then Jesus removes the wrapping. But
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: is it am I compromising by bringing in a modern
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Christmas application to one?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Okay? I think this is the proper form to tell
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you you are compromising. It's about time someone called water
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: down the gospel and you are a heretan, you know.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I tell my wife of the day is like, I
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: know some people just want to be heard. I want
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to be fixed. Like when I complain or tell you
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a problem, I want to be corrected. I want you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: to tell me what I should do differently for me
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to coach you up.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, tell me something I should be doing differently,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: not you know you right now necessarily.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, made let me open this file on my computer,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: coach populating.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Hold on, let's go take a second. It's pulling from
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: the cloud. That's great. Well, Merry Christmas to everybody. Merry Christmas, Johnny.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I know you're heading east and I'm heading a little
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: east and.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Going to Tokyo Knoxville. Yeah, but yes, going to the south.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: They call it that they and no one's It won't
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: stick no matter how much I try. No, But I'm
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: excited to see some family and then going to Florida
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  Speaker 1: for a few days. Oh fun, and where it's warm
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  Speaker 1: and I'll never return because it's warm, there's nice. It's
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  Speaker 1: chilly here and I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Hey, guys should check out Talk About That podcast
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  Speaker 1: the email to send it to go to my website,
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  Speaker 1: JOHNNYW dot com. We're announcing tour dates every week. New
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: tour dates pop up, and we're adding to my forty
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  Speaker 1: eight city tour with Awakening events, and that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be coming. I guarantee you to a major city near you.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't make excuses. We need I need these rooms
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  Speaker 1: to be full. Okay, they're taking a big chance on me.
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  Speaker 1: I got a bus. Now we got to do something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to stop thinking about yourselves. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about the whole episode. Christmas is about buying tickets
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  Speaker 1: to my show for people that you love.
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  Speaker 2: Look, help Johnny grow small as he tries to be great. Wait,
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  Speaker 2: you will grow great as you keep Johnny from being small.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's something, but no come to see
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  Speaker 1: a show and it's getting a lot of fun. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait, Johnny. I'll be there for every single one
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  Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, probably too much. That's gonna be too much,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't have enough for hotel rooms for that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, guys, thanks for the Tommy gave us this week. We
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  Speaker 2: do wish you Merry Christmas. Let's do it again next
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  Speaker 2: week You're on.
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