Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Unlocking the Nigerian Market: The Customer Education Key
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- 0:02Hello and welcome to the show. Today we're back on the
- 0:05challenges of selling your fintech ideas in Nigeria.
- 0:08And I want to look at another problem that you fintech boys
- 0:11and girls are going to face and that is the problem of customer
- 0:15education and digital literacy. OK, Now the idea behind this is
- 0:23you are trying to do something in a context that is not to tech
- 0:29savvy. Well, First off, The thing is
- 0:31the ideas that are involved in fintechs all the way up to
- 0:40what's that word, Gosh, I can't remember that word.
- 0:44Anyway, fintechs, Web 3, there's a third word I'm trying to
- 0:48remember the third class of people that I usually razz on.
- 0:52I can't remember now anyway, but you get my point.
- 0:55There's a whole spectrum of ideas that are typically very
- 0:59complex to explain anyway when you're looking at things from a
- 1:02technical point of view, which is the reason why I've always
- 1:05said on the podcast that you're better off using metaphors,
- 1:08Similes. Look for much more simpler ways
- 1:11of explaining the idea and also talking in terms of benefits
- 1:16that people are going to derive from using your fintech, you
- 1:21know, looking for simpler ways to explain it because these
- 1:23ideas are complex. So in order to get your thing
- 1:27off the ground, there has to be a certain level of customer
- 1:30education that you get involved in and bringing people up on
- 1:34their digital literacy skills. So the aim of getting involved
- 1:39in these sorts of things would be to promote fintech adoption
- 1:43as a whole in Nigeria. And that, of course, will make
- 1:46it easier to sell your your services, your app, your
- 1:49website, your whatever it is that you're setting now, the
- 1:54stage of execution. OK.
- 1:58Where this, where this comes in handy is where, you know, you've
- 2:01raised, yeah, you know, your funds.
- 2:03Let's say you're one of those guys or girls that will read
- 2:06about on the Internet, you know, on the tech blogs where raise
- 2:09millions of dollars for their fintech ideas.
- 2:12So I'm talking to people who have reached this stage of
- 2:15execution. You've raised your millions of
- 2:17dollars. Now these are the things to put
- 2:19your millions of dollars to use to to put it to good use.
- 2:23So it's not just about taking the millions of dollars and then
- 2:28getting yourself a new apartment, what else?
- 2:31Getting a fancy office in lucky phase one and all that.
- 2:36So these are also good things that you can take the millions
- 2:39of dollars and and put them to good use.
- 2:42Now, First off, you have to pursue strategies for content
- 2:45marketing. Now the reason why this is
- 2:47important, remember, because I said you're trying to sell some
- 2:51very complex ideas and use case scenarios in an environment
- 2:55where lots of people are not that digitally literate or not
- 3:00that tech savvy. And like I confessed over here
- 3:03on the show a couple of episodes ago, even for those of us who
- 3:06are fairly tech savvy, there are a couple of people like me, for
- 3:09instance, who are not going anywhere because we're just
- 3:11going to stick to our traditional banks.
- 3:13But I also explained in that episode about how you can
- 3:16address some of those concerns that some of us conservative
- 3:19folks have. But we really can't get away
- 3:23from the fact that for those of you who are trying to staff in
- 3:26tech ideas, you do have to engage in some sort of education
- 3:31around your product, your service, your idea.
- 3:34And content marketing is not a bad way to go.
- 3:37No content marketing. OK, let me not bother defining
- 3:41content marketing. Let's just go straight to the
- 3:44features. So content marketing, you're
- 3:46using blogs, you're using infographics, maybe you're
- 3:49creating podcasts or you're appearing on podcasts like this
- 3:54one for money transfer. I think cheaper.
- 3:56I think it's cheaper. I, I heard about them on the
- 4:00well, I had seen their, their billboards, you know, with
- 4:03Bonoboy and all that in Abuja and then also came across the
- 4:08advertisements on I think it's the I said what I said podcast.
- 4:11Is this really Nigerian popular podcast.
- 4:14It's supposed to be about the millennial experience.
- 4:18They're these two ladies, pretty cool girls, but it's a just
- 4:22podcast more or less. So if you're the kind of person
- 4:27who is only looking for business content on podcast, then don't
- 4:30listen to the show. But if you need a nice podcast,
- 4:32you know, to step down because you want to listen to two
- 4:35millennials moan about the work experience, maybe business,
- 4:41maybe relationships, maybe politics.
- 4:43It's a free Wheeling kind of podcast.
- 4:46Then you can check that out. I said what I said.
- 4:50So, yeah. So cheaper.
- 4:52Put advertisements on Nacho, and then you can also put out
- 4:55videos. So those are the sorts of things
- 4:58that are involved in content marketing.
- 5:00And the idea behind content marketing is that you're going
- 5:03to put out content features, things that people find useful
- 5:07and valuable. It's an excuse for you to remain
- 5:10top of mind with your audience instead of only putting out
- 5:14messages all the time. That says buy from me, buy from
- 5:16me, buy from me. Now, One example of content
- 5:19marketing is this blog, sorry, not blog, this podcast, you
- 5:22know, that I put out on a weekly basis.
- 5:25So I'm currently in your earholes talking about all
- 5:28things sales, marketing, business development and those
- 5:32sorts of issues. So it's a good way for me to
- 5:34remain top of mind with you and my potential customers around
- 5:37these sorts of things so that when people are ready to pull
- 5:40the trigger when they feel like they need a sales coach or the
- 5:42one, the consultant to look over this aspect of their strategy or
- 5:45that aspect of their strategy and the person that they're
- 5:48going to call. So that's the idea behind the
- 5:50content marketing strategy. So for those of you who fintech
- 5:53guys and girls, you raise millions of dollars.
- 5:55This is where you should start throwing your money behind.
- 5:58So blog posts, hope you guys have a team that is putting out
- 6:03blog posts on your website. Or maybe what's that word, you
- 6:08know, when you write A blog post, but the blog post is
- 6:11intended for for another, another publication?
- 6:18Syndication, yes. Syndication, yes.
- 6:20So you should have a team that is either publishing your blog
- 6:23post, you know, on your own assets or you're syndicating
- 6:26blog posts to go up on other places.
- 6:29So let's say you put out your blog post and you happen to get
- 6:33your blog post on TechCrunch. Apart from TechCrunch, is this
- 6:38Nigerian one? What's it called?
- 6:39Tech tech, something I can't remember, but there's sort of
- 6:45like a Nigerian equivalent of tech crunch.
- 6:49So I've done my research before I started.
- 6:52OK, but you get the whole point. So the blogs should be up on
- 6:56websites that you own or you syndicate it across other
- 7:00platforms so you can find other readers.
- 7:03And the same thing with infographics.
- 7:05Infographics, basically it's just where you have data,
- 7:09photos, things like that, with information at the bottom that
- 7:13is trying to pass across information in an easier way
- 7:16than using only text. Then of course, like I said,
- 7:20podcast, that's an option that's available if you guys are bold
- 7:24enough, brave enough. For some reason, lots of people
- 7:27are afraid of podcasts. Then there's also videos that
- 7:31you guys can put out and some fintechs already do that.
- 7:34So if you check YouTube, you can already see some videos there
- 7:39above found. I was talking about who we are.
- 7:41This is what we do. This is a problem that we want
- 7:43to solve. The last one that I saw not
- 7:46fintech related, OK, well it does have some fintech aspects,
- 7:50but this was in the, this is in the real estate space for a
- 7:53company raise millions of dollars.
- 7:56Well, at the time I think was a three M was $3,000,000 that they
- 7:59had raised. And I think the operations is
- 8:01out of I think Nigeria and maybe Kenya.
- 8:05I think the websites, you have landlords on it, you have
- 8:10tenants on it, you have regular people who want to rent on it.
- 8:13And it's supposed to just make the whole process of finding
- 8:17real estate easier, paying rent easier, you know, stuff like
- 8:20that. So that's the fintech component.
- 8:22But they put out really good video on YouTube saying this is
- 8:25who we are, this is what we do, this is how far we've come, This
- 8:29is how many people that we have on our platform.
- 8:31If you're on this platform, these are the benefits that you
- 8:33can derive. If you are a renter and you're
- 8:35strapped for cash, this is how we can help you pay rent.
- 8:37If you're a landlord and you're on this platform, this is how we
- 8:40can help you verify who credible renters are, you know, blah,
- 8:44blah, blah, stuff like that. So you fintech guys and girls,
- 8:49give that a shot. Content marketing and your
- 8:52content marketing can be not just around these ideas that
- 8:55I've discussed right now, but can also go beyond, you know,
- 8:59basic concepts because since we're talking fintechs solving
- 9:01financial problems or problems in the financial space, you guys
- 9:05can build your stuff around content on savings or budgeting
- 9:09or investing or money transfer, you know, stuff like that.
- 9:13So if you're like Cheaper or one of these other fintechs that is
- 9:19in the money transfer space, oh, by the way, Cheaper has not
- 9:22given me money. You know, I'm not promoting
- 9:25them. The thing is just that I'm real
- 9:27conservative when it comes to these sorts of things.
- 9:29I wasn't going to try any of them.
- 9:31I saw the Burner Boy advert billboard and then I heard about
- 9:36them on. I said what I said at the time,
- 9:39I was thinking of monetizing the podcast to see how I could
- 9:41accept donations from listeners. so-called up my brother who's in
- 9:46the UK. I'm like this one I have in
- 9:48mind. Let's just test out this
- 9:49platform. Let me see how easy it is for me
- 9:51to send money and how easy it is for me to receive money.
- 9:54So I downloaded the app and then did the verification thing.
- 10:00You know, know your customer, customer verification, send
- 10:04money now was Valhalla, receive money now was Valhalla, customer
- 10:08service was Valhalla zero. Nobody responded to our text
- 10:12messages and so no text messages to our emails.
- 10:16So I'm not promoting cheaper and I'm not saying they're bad.
- 10:20The only reason why I mention them is because really they're
- 10:23the only ones that I've tried. But there are other names out
- 10:26there. Chipper is the only one that I
- 10:28tried. So mainly I'm not saying they're
- 10:30bad. Maybe, you know, my brother and
- 10:32I were just unlucky. You know, we signed up when
- 10:35service was done or something like that.
- 10:37Why? Let me move on.
- 10:39So where was I? OK, yes, what I was trying to
- 10:42illustrate was this. So folks like Chipper, they
- 10:44actually can be making content around money transfer.
- 10:47So what are the reasons that people transfer money?
- 10:50Typically, you're trying to help family back home.
- 10:52And there are some people, like one of my classmates who is
- 10:54based in Atlanta right now, who has a bunch of charities in
- 10:57Nigeria that she is supporting around female issues and the
- 11:02care of the elderly. So it would not be out of place
- 11:05if you're one of these cheaper type organizations, fintechs
- 11:08that are involved in money transfer.
- 11:10You see someone like my classmate who's involved in this
- 11:12sort of thing and then, yeah, you start writing about, you
- 11:18start supporting her 'cause writing about those sorts of
- 11:20things because there's a Nexus there.
- 11:25This person is in Atlanta raising funds and then sending
- 11:28the money back home here to Nigeria and with the current CBN
- 11:32restrictions and, you know, payments and it has just become
- 11:36a nightmare. I don't know why it's so
- 11:37difficult just to send money out of Nigeria or to send money in.
- 11:41I'm sure if you economics people sit down and explain it to us in
- 11:44the common sense way, it will make sense why you guys have to
- 11:46make it so difficult. But I really missed the days
- 11:49when it was as simple as you go into the bank, you fill the
- 11:52form, you give them the Nara, the person in the UK will call
- 11:55you up and say, hey, bro, thanks, I received the money.
- 11:58Or the other way around, the person goes does the whatever
- 12:01they need to do on the UK and and then your account is
- 12:04credited here and they can call up and say, hey, Edmor, thanks,
- 12:07I received the money. So cheaper people, you can liass
- 12:11with other people like that and start talking about the benefits
- 12:15of money, benefits of money transfer and how that changes
- 12:19lives and how that changes communities.
- 12:21And then things of that nature, so you can do all these sorts of
- 12:25things around content marketing. How does it serve the overall
- 12:28aim? You can see that it'll be
- 12:30educating people and making people more literate around
- 12:33digital issues. So instead of just billboard
- 12:37with Boner Boy, people will see and be like, oh, OK, that is
- 12:43what cheaper actually does. Those are what this whole
- 12:47fintech thing is about. It's about making it easy to
- 12:50send money so that I don't need to know somebody in central bank
- 12:55or I don't need to pally up with somebody in Axis Bank or
- 12:58whatever. It can be as easy as I get my
- 13:00phone, I do this, the person in the UK gets their phone, they do
- 13:04that and then next thing, voila, money shows up in my bank
- 13:07account. Then something that you guys
- 13:11should consider in the fintech space 'cause I noticed that a
- 13:13lot of what you guys do is is in English.
- 13:17In fact, the all the stuff I've found so far is in English.
- 13:21But I would like to recommend that if we're talking about mass
- 13:24adoption, maybe you think that boys and girls should consider
- 13:27translating into local languages.
- 13:29Maybe it might help you reach a wider audience.
- 13:32You know, consider because in the telephony space, it's
- 13:36something, it's a, it's a, it's part of their tactic that all
- 13:41the major companies have have used.
- 13:44Like when? Back when I was in the OK, this
- 13:48was after uni, I think after my uni, I think it was, gosh, I've
- 13:54forgotten the name of the company, but I think it was
- 13:56Etisalat. I mean it was the the company
- 13:58that this musician bank, EW Bank, Willy Wellington, the one
- 14:04that he became a brand ambassador for, I can't
- 14:07remember. It was Etisalat or Nymobile or
- 14:10Abby. Is it the same company?
- 14:12But anyway, so it was, I remember that back then they had
- 14:15a real big push 'cause I was serving in, after law school, I
- 14:20served in Kano. So, you know, I was around
- 14:24Abuja, Kano, these areas, I noticed that they had a huge
- 14:28push around, you know, with Hausa campaigns trying to get
- 14:34the, trying to get the, trying to get what's that word, you
- 14:41know, adoption for adoption for the company, you know, in that,
- 14:45in that part of the world. And I don't speak house anyway.
- 14:48But for the folks who do understand how say you know, the
- 14:52place where I was squatting, it kind of 'cause I didn't have my
- 14:54own, I didn't have my own. I didn't get a house as in a, a
- 15:01friend or for that squad at his place.
- 15:02So, you know, I just did. So you know, people are talking
- 15:05about how good the campaigns were, like there wasn't even a
- 15:07general house that they were using.
- 15:09They were using a house that was particular to different
- 15:11environments. So basically different adverts
- 15:13who run in Kaduna, different adverts who run in Kano, even in
- 15:16Kano, in different parts of Kano, different kinds of adverts
- 15:20would run. So you guys in the fintech
- 15:22space, you can also consider something like that for some of
- 15:24these, your campaigns, translate them into local languages.
- 15:28Perhaps you could gain wider audience and then more adoption.
- 15:31Then let's see what else. OK, Other strategies that I've
- 15:35spoken about in the past, partnering with influencers to
- 15:38promote content also to reach a wider audience.
- 15:41Yes, I've already mentioned about I said what I said podcast
- 15:44and how cheaper had a couple of adverts there.
- 15:48But instead of just money transfer advertisements, you can
- 15:53go beyond that because and I said what I said, they have an
- 15:57agony aunt segment. Agony aunt basically is where
- 16:00people just call in to say to say, you know, I have a problem.
- 16:03Can you help me? You know, that's the part of
- 16:07that's the part of the show where people call in and say
- 16:11like, oh, I'm in love with two men.
- 16:15I was dating both of them behind their back.
- 16:17I'm pregnant now. I don't know who the father is,
- 16:20please help me or whatever, you know, those sorts of things or
- 16:25anyway, you get the point. People have problems, personal
- 16:27problems, emotional problems, they call in.
- 16:29So that whole, not whole thing, it's just called the agony agony
- 16:36aunt. So they have an agony aunt
- 16:38episode, you know, so perhaps if you're one of these fintech
- 16:44people, money transfer people like Chipper and the rest of
- 16:48them, you could have a segment if you're partnering with these
- 16:51kinds of influencers, where if the question is related to
- 16:57meeting savings goals or investing goals or solving
- 17:03budgeting problems, you know, personal issues that can tie
- 17:06into these sorts of things. You know, perhaps you can have
- 17:09one of your company, one of your sales people on the show, you
- 17:15know, talking about how your app can solve some of these
- 17:17problems. So it's just a, I'm just
- 17:20freestyling here. So don't take my don't take this
- 17:24to be a golden recommendation or something.
- 17:26I'm just freestyling about how you guys can look for different
- 17:32ways of educating the public and making people familiar with who
- 17:37you are, what you're doing, and getting the whole digital
- 17:42literacy game up a notch. Then I've also spoken about
- 17:46local partnerships. OK.
- 17:49I spoke about the one with the app that was partnering,
- 17:54partnering with Sterling Bank for federal government grants.
- 17:58And OK, so I forgot to mention in all the episode, you can also
- 18:02partner with mobile network operators because MTN has this
- 18:06Momo thing going, going on at the moment.
- 18:08So that's also an example of fintech because you're using
- 18:14mobile telephony money wallets. Basically it's just money
- 18:18transfer using your phone, although I don't know how that
- 18:20works. I don't have an MTN line, so I
- 18:22haven't tried that out. Then I think with Kenya, is it
- 18:25MM Pesa or something like that is really big in that part of
- 18:29the world. I don't know anything about it.
- 18:32I just know that back when my wife was still running her post
- 18:36grad studies, you know, she, she had a Kenyan roommate.
- 18:39And so, you know, just just conversation.
- 18:42I used to come up stuff like that because M Pesa or is it M
- 18:46Pesa? I can't remember what it's
- 18:47called anyway, but it's really big in that part of the world.
- 18:49We didn't have our own equivalent.
- 18:52So maybe now MTN and Momo, maybe that's our own equivalent, all
- 18:56those sorts of things. So fintech people can partner
- 18:59with mobile network operators just like in Ethiopia.
- 19:02I know that some mobile companies in the past, some
- 19:09fintech companies partnered with mobile telephone networks to
- 19:14have some money water thing going on and also so that
- 19:17farmers could check prices on commodity exchanges and then
- 19:21things like that. It's really wild the kind of
- 19:23services that you can provide when you guys partner with
- 19:26mobile companies. Then of course, partnering with
- 19:28microfinance banks will help you.
- 19:32It's it's just same thing as partnering with the banks
- 19:34basically that will like the Sterling Bank partnership for
- 19:37the federal government funds. So you expand your reach, you
- 19:40gain new customers, you leverage another person's infrastructure
- 19:43and also leverage their customer base.
- 19:46So this is not the end all and be all.
- 19:49And because my own area of expertise is personal selling
- 19:55and I'm sure you've noticed that there are lots of ideas here
- 19:58that we have discussed that are not directly related to sales or
- 20:02selling, but there are some ideas that you can try out and
- 20:05they are good ideas. OK.
- 20:07Well, it's a good approach to adopt because these are the
- 20:11sorts of things that make selling easier.
- 20:14When you do business development campaigns and you execute them
- 20:18well, when you run marketing campaigns, marketing activities
- 20:23and you do them well, it makes selling easier because the next
- 20:27time your sales person walks up to a potential customer to try
- 20:33and explain that, OK, This Is Us, this is what we do, It's an
- 20:37easier, smoother conversation because at least people have
- 20:41heard of it before. Now back to this Momo thing, the
- 20:44Momo that's MTNMTN Nigeria, the mobile payment thing.
- 20:50Now, I'm not an MTN user, but The thing is because Momo MTN
- 20:55has been and Momo, they've been advertising everywhere on radio,
- 20:59Momo on TV, Momo on billboards, Momo, in fact, in my
- 21:05neighborhood, the shopping all, I call it.
- 21:08So I say the estate shop. Yeah, the estate shop.
- 21:10There's a huge Momo bought there.
- 21:12So the next time I'm chilling, just minding my business and
- 21:14somebody walks up to me and the person starts the conversation
- 21:17like, oh, I'm an MTN sales Rep, I'm a Momo.
- 21:20Something, something, something, something.
- 21:22However the conversation goes, at least I have heard of Momo
- 21:26and MTN before. So it shouldn't it, it shouldn't
- 21:29be a conversation that would be too hard to have.
- 21:32So that's why these ideas are important.
- 21:34So these kind of marketing activities, content marketing
- 21:38strategies, public relations strategies, whatever it is that
- 21:42you want to call it, they help to wet the ground and make it
- 21:45easier for the salesperson who comes along in the future to
- 21:49push your fintech ideas. So that's all for today folks.
- 21:55Remember to connect with me. The phone number is 08064662140.
- 22:01The country code is +234. If you're not Nigerian, you can
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- 22:19my name from the link. We're currently listening to
- 22:21this episode, so thanks for your time and attention.
- 22:24I will catch you guys at the next episode.
- 22:26I'll have to check my list of questions and see if we're done
- 22:31with challenges of fintech in selling fintech ideas in
- 22:37Nigeria. I'd have to look for my list,
- 22:39but I think we should be done with it in another one or two
- 22:42episodes. Now, for those of you who've
- 22:44been listening to the last couple of episodes where I've
- 22:46been dealing with things fintech related, I'm bringing you ideas
- 22:49to the market. If you found any of these things
- 22:51valuable and you know anybody who's in the fintech space,
- 22:55share a couple of the episodes with them, see if they might get
- 22:57some value out of it as well. So thanks for your time and
- 22:59attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 23:01episode.