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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name's Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations woman
- 0:03Speaker 1: and I'm here to acknowledge country. Te Glenn Young Ganya
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- 0:45Speaker 2: She's on the Money.
- 0:47Speaker 3: She's on the Money. Hello, and welcome to She's on
- 0:53Speaker 3: the Money, the podcast that lets you be pervy about
- 0:55Speaker 3: other people's money stories educational purposes, of course. Welcome to
- 1:00Speaker 3: another one of our money diaries, brought to you by
- 1:02Speaker 3: our friends at Skywealth, where I get the absolute privilege
- 1:05Speaker 3: of sitting down with one of our incredible shehes on
- 1:08Speaker 3: the Money community members and talking to them all about
- 1:11Speaker 3: their journey. Let's jump straight into it, because this week
- 1:14Speaker 3: I got an email and it sounded exactly like this,
- 1:18Speaker 3: Dear Money Diaries. I've just turned twenty one, and I
- 1:21Speaker 3: am in my final year of studying finance and marketing
- 1:24Speaker 3: while also working part time in stock operations for a
- 1:27Speaker 3: luxury fashion brand and interning at a financial advisory firm.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Money has always been a big thing in my life
- 1:34Speaker 3: because my parents taught me to save from a very
- 1:36Speaker 3: young age. I didn't even have a debit card or
- 1:39Speaker 3: access to my savings until I turned eighteen, which probably
- 1:42Speaker 3: explains why I still get excited when I find something
- 1:45Speaker 3: on sale, even if I don't need it. Working in
- 1:48Speaker 3: luxury retail has made me realize how wild some people
- 1:51Speaker 3: are with money. I see people my age spend an
- 1:54Speaker 3: entire paycheck on one dress they'll wear once, while I'm
- 1:57Speaker 3: standing there mentally calculating how how much they could have
- 2:00Speaker 3: turned into if they invested it instead. I love talking
- 2:05Speaker 3: about money, saving and investing, and I'd love to share
- 2:08Speaker 3: my early money story with the community and hopefully inspire
- 2:11Speaker 3: other people my age to think a little bit more
- 2:14Speaker 3: about saving for their future selves. Ah money diarists. That
- 2:18Speaker 3: sounds so exciting.
- 2:20Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm young, but you know what, I'd rather
- 2:24Speaker 4: start now than think about it in like, you know,
- 2:27Speaker 4: ten twenty years time.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Well, way back when I worked in retail, I was
- 2:31Speaker 3: not thinking about how much that money could mean if
- 2:35Speaker 3: it was invested somewhere else, and I was selling really
- 2:37Speaker 3: expensive shoes. I cannot imagine what I would be doing
- 2:41Speaker 3: right now. If I worked in retail and I would
- 2:44Speaker 3: just see someone spend like five hundred and six hundred
- 2:46Speaker 3: dollars on address, I'd be like, go, what are you doing?
- 2:48Speaker 3: Like I know literally, or especially if I see them
- 2:52Speaker 3: put on credit or they mentioned something like oh my god,
- 2:54Speaker 3: I can't afford it, but I'm going to do it,
- 2:56Speaker 3: I'd be like.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Well don't, don't.
- 2:58Speaker 3: I'd be the worst salesperson ever. Are you sure you
- 3:00Speaker 3: want this?
- 3:01Speaker 4: Are you sure? And they just use after pay as well,
- 3:04Speaker 4: which freaks me out. They want like the latest fashion
- 3:06Speaker 4: because we get drops every two weeks, so they are like,
- 3:09Speaker 4: I need the latest stress and I'm just like, I
- 3:11Speaker 4: don't know how you're doing this like every two weeks.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Oh my heart. All right, Well let's get into it
- 3:17Speaker 3: before we ask you a little bit more about your story.
- 3:20Speaker 3: One of my favorite questions is what grade would you
- 3:22Speaker 3: give your money habits if I asked you to give
- 3:24Speaker 3: them a grade from A through to F.
- 3:26Speaker 4: So had a bit of think about this, but I
- 3:28Speaker 4: think I would give myself a solid B. I do
- 3:31Speaker 4: have a really good foundation for obviously, being like a
- 3:35Speaker 4: such a young age, being twenty one, but I still
- 3:37Speaker 4: have a lot to learn. I save a lot of
- 3:38Speaker 4: learning gaps as well, and I'm still fortunate enough to
- 3:41Speaker 4: be living at home, so I haven't really got into
- 3:44Speaker 4: the real world as such. And yees, I some bit
- 3:47Speaker 4: of a safe haven at the moment. But I save
- 3:49Speaker 4: a good financial literacy position, so I feel like I'll
- 3:52Speaker 4: the transition from moving out of home, starting a full
- 3:55Speaker 4: time job, leaving UNI. I think I'd be in a
- 3:58Speaker 4: really good position, so solid B.
- 4:00Speaker 3: I love that, but also self aware, Queen, You're like, well, actually,
- 4:03Speaker 3: I know what position I mean, and it looks like this,
- 4:06Speaker 3: and it's going to change like this. Okay, twenty one
- 4:08Speaker 3: year old me, she had no idea. Now tell me
- 4:12Speaker 3: a little bit more about your money story and the
- 4:15Speaker 3: things you think impacted.
- 4:16Speaker 4: It growing up. I never really worried about money, like
- 4:19Speaker 4: my parents created a very comfortable and secure environment for
- 4:23Speaker 4: my brother and I. Both my parents came from immigrant backgrounds.
- 4:27Speaker 4: My dad's a trade and my mum she's self employed
- 4:30Speaker 4: at the moment, but she worked high up in corporate
- 4:32Speaker 4: for many many years. So from their parents, my grandparents
- 4:36Speaker 4: coming to Australia, they had nothing and built everything from scratch.
- 4:39Speaker 4: And my parents taught me very early on through their
- 4:42Speaker 4: parents that you have to work hard, but not only
- 4:44Speaker 4: work hard, but make your money work smarter for you.
- 4:47Speaker 4: So I think since my brother and I were a
- 4:49Speaker 4: young age, we've always had that embedded to us. And
- 4:53Speaker 4: I started work when I was thirteen and as a
- 4:56Speaker 4: bus referee, I earned six dollars an hour and then
- 4:58Speaker 4: I transition into a beauty store of but I never
- 5:01Speaker 4: ever or my money went to a debit card, and
- 5:03Speaker 4: I only had access to that till I was eighteen. Wow,
- 5:07Speaker 4: actually having a debit card. So I feel like I
- 5:10Speaker 4: always just never really spent my money and only used
- 5:13Speaker 4: the cash that I had from my pocket money or
- 5:15Speaker 4: birthday or Christmas because I just knew that, you know,
- 5:19Speaker 4: there was no point of spending on a brand new
- 5:21Speaker 4: iPhone like I was happy with my iPhone that I
- 5:24Speaker 4: had like for five years, for example, So I think
- 5:27Speaker 4: that's where it kind of started. From being a child too.
- 5:30Speaker 4: Going to university, I'm studying a bachelor's degree of finance
- 5:33Speaker 4: and marketing, and my final year, as mentioned in my money.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Diaries, I'm so exciting. Yeah.
- 5:38Speaker 4: So I feel like even from university kind of clicked that,
- 5:41Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to start investing for myself, and
- 5:44Speaker 4: especially because my parents started young. I think both my
- 5:47Speaker 4: parents are around like early twenties when they both bought
- 5:49Speaker 4: their first individual investment properties. I knew myself I wanted
- 5:53Speaker 4: to start now. So I think ETFs kept coming off
- 5:55Speaker 4: my feed and everything, and I was curious. And then
- 5:58Speaker 4: I made my fur purchase of three ETFs when I
- 6:03Speaker 4: was nineteen years old, so that is nearly two years.
- 6:06Speaker 4: I think my first purchase was in May. So I
- 6:08Speaker 4: think that just kind of started my journey with it all.
- 6:11Speaker 3: And what do you think meant that you actually committed
- 6:15Speaker 3: to that?
- 6:15Speaker 4: Growing up?
- 6:16Speaker 3: I had a dad who was an accountant, so you
- 6:18Speaker 3: would say that I grew up in a relatively financially
- 6:20Speaker 3: literate household, But I also didn't listen to my parents
- 6:24Speaker 3: so when my dad was like, you should be saving,
- 6:26Speaker 3: like and I still remember him when I got my
- 6:27Speaker 3: first job, he was like, uturia saved ten percent of
- 6:29Speaker 3: your income and never touch it, don't look at it.
- 6:32Speaker 3: And I was like, absolutely not, Like I'm not going
- 6:34Speaker 3: to do that. I'm going to spend all my money.
- 6:36Speaker 3: What about your upbringing meant that you listened to your
- 6:39Speaker 3: parents when they said that stuff.
- 6:41Speaker 4: So I feel like it kind of came down to
- 6:44Speaker 4: how they were brought up. I think that's the best
- 6:46Speaker 4: way to explain it, because I know my mom's dad,
- 6:50Speaker 4: so my grandfather, he came with twenty dollars to his name,
- 6:53Speaker 4: and from that twenty dollars it kind of grew to
- 6:57Speaker 4: such a larger thing to buy property. And then obviously
- 7:01Speaker 4: they pushed my mom to be able to, I guess,
- 7:04Speaker 4: save up to something and have something under their name.
- 7:07Speaker 4: And I think from my dad's perspective, it was that
- 7:10Speaker 4: I think he used to put in money every Friday,
- 7:13Speaker 4: the check when he got paid, and I think it
- 7:16Speaker 4: was at the bank they told him, yeah, why don't
- 7:18Speaker 4: you just buy a property, Why don't you have something
- 7:19Speaker 4: for yourself. So I think after hearing their stories and
- 7:22Speaker 4: about how they kind of got brought up, and then
- 7:24Speaker 4: I guess they kind of pushed it towards my brother
- 7:27Speaker 4: and I as well, and I kind of saw even
- 7:30Speaker 4: the habits that they had, like my mom would rather
- 7:33Speaker 4: spend something that came up or whatever, she wouldn't go
- 7:36Speaker 4: to like Chanelle for example, and purchase a jacket, which
- 7:38Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that, but I'm just saying I
- 7:40Speaker 4: think because of their habits that they had as well,
- 7:43Speaker 4: and being quite not too frugal with their money but
- 7:47Speaker 4: like spending it on stuff that they find like had
- 7:49Speaker 4: to value, I think that's kind of the reason why
- 7:51Speaker 4: I am who I am in the sense of like
- 7:54Speaker 4: my money story and everything like that. But yeah, I
- 7:57Speaker 4: think it came from the top to come to the
- 7:58Speaker 4: bottom to my generation.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Okay, So I kind of love that, But also I
- 8:02Speaker 3: just wish i'd listen to like you because I'd be like, way,
- 8:05Speaker 3: it would be way better. So tell me you do
- 8:09Speaker 3: a fair few things.
- 8:10Speaker 4: But what do you do for work?
- 8:11Speaker 3: And how much money do you earn?
- 8:12Speaker 4: So I do three things. At the moment, everything's just
- 8:15Speaker 4: happening all at once. So I'm currently as I said
- 8:18Speaker 4: last year of UNI, so I'm a full time UNIE student.
- 8:20Speaker 4: I'm also a casual stock lead, so I work three
- 8:23Speaker 4: times a week there and that it does fluctuate my
- 8:26Speaker 4: pay because I am a casual worker still in UNI.
- 8:28Speaker 4: So it's roughly between five hundred to one thousand a week.
- 8:31Speaker 4: What five hundred to one thousand, Yeah, that's so good.
- 8:34Speaker 3: What does that even mean? What's a stock lead?
- 8:36Speaker 4: Pretty much just working with the stock so transferring things in,
- 8:40Speaker 4: transferring stuff out. If for example, another store needed this
- 8:44Speaker 4: particular dress, like we'll transfer it out to them. Yeah, yeah, okay,
- 8:48Speaker 4: So just keeping on top of everything and then what.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Else because that's a lot of money already for somebody
- 8:52Speaker 3: who's a baby. And also like at UNI, that's crazy.
- 8:56Speaker 4: Yeah. And then also on the side to the other
- 8:58Speaker 4: two days, so I'm working full time, but like have
- 9:01Speaker 4: two jobs, if that makes sense. So I'm interning another
- 9:04Speaker 4: two days, so on the Tuesdays and Thursdays, And that
- 9:07Speaker 4: is kind of towards more my career path as well.
- 9:10Speaker 4: So this internship's for three months and yeah, just learning
- 9:13Speaker 4: about financial advisory, financial planning, sitting in on client meetings,
- 9:17Speaker 4: listening to all these parents, be like be like, oh,
- 9:21Speaker 4: you have to make sure you like do X, Y
- 9:22Speaker 4: and Z when you're young, like, don't be like us.
- 9:25Speaker 4: Like I feel like that's what I constantly keep hearing.
- 9:27Speaker 4: So yeah, it's put to get different perspectives as well.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Tell me a bit more about this internship. Do you
- 9:32Speaker 3: get paid to do an internship?
- 9:34Speaker 4: Not? This one is unpaid, but they did say at
- 9:37Speaker 4: the end of it they could give me a contract
- 9:40Speaker 4: to be able to continue with the firm. It's a
- 9:41Speaker 4: very small firm. There's also two other interns that are
- 9:44Speaker 4: doing it with me, so I guess if I work
- 9:46Speaker 4: hard they're happy with me, then they will keep me on.
- 9:48Speaker 4: But I feel like they said, if you know you
- 9:50Speaker 4: want the right fit for us, then I could use
- 9:53Speaker 4: that as a really good reference for my resume as well.
- 9:55Speaker 3: I'm always so suspicious of people who get interns and
- 9:59Speaker 3: then I don't pay them because I'm just like, that's
- 10:02Speaker 3: such good experience. I totally agree, but I'm also like,
- 10:05Speaker 3: you're probably getting them to do little admin tasks and stuff,
- 10:07Speaker 3: so pay them as admin. I'm just so suspicious.
- 10:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done two internships in the past. One was
- 10:15Speaker 4: through a family friend and he did offer to pay me,
- 10:18Speaker 4: but I was like, no, no, no, no, it's your
- 10:19Speaker 4: own business. I don't want payment, Like I feel like
- 10:22Speaker 4: really guilty, but I get paid from him. And then
- 10:24Speaker 4: my other internship, Yeah, I felt like I should have
- 10:26Speaker 4: got paid because of the stuff we did, as you said,
- 10:28Speaker 4: admin stuff. But with this internship, I'm getting a lot
- 10:32Speaker 4: of understanding and everyone's very friendly, a willing to talk to.
- 10:35Speaker 3: You, and as long as it's not impacting you negatively.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Like I've got a whole beef around nursing and the
- 10:41Speaker 3: like they're doing new internships, so do they do placements,
- 10:45Speaker 3: Like I have a big beef with placements because I'm
- 10:47Speaker 3: just like those queens need to get paid. Like it
- 10:50Speaker 3: just it blows my mind. And like, don't get me wrong,
- 10:53Speaker 3: you're probably in a position where you're like, well, the
- 10:55Speaker 3: I actually can like I'm getting this great experience and
- 10:58Speaker 3: you are, like seeing your resume, I know that you're
- 11:00Speaker 3: getting epic experience. But you're also in a very privileged
- 11:04Speaker 3: position where you can you're like, well, I live at home.
- 11:06Speaker 3: You know if I gave up a few hours of
- 11:08Speaker 3: work a week that's paid, Like it doesn't it's not
- 11:10Speaker 3: going to ruin my life. It's not going to you know,
- 11:12Speaker 3: I don't have kids to feed, and I think that
- 11:14Speaker 3: that's so good for you. But exactly why interns should
- 11:18Speaker 3: get paid so that that opportunity is available for everybody.
- 11:22Speaker 3: I want to know, what does somebody who's killing it
- 11:25Speaker 3: at money and is only twenty one, what do they
- 11:27Speaker 3: have is their big money goals?
- 11:28Speaker 4: So I actually did break them down. Of course you did.
- 11:32Speaker 3: You are so type A.
- 11:33Speaker 4: I love this. Yes, I'm very organized. I've set my
- 11:37Speaker 4: goals like officially this year for twenty twenty six, especially
- 11:40Speaker 4: in regards to money. Yeah, I've never really set goals,
- 11:43Speaker 4: but I've tried to like be more organized and like
- 11:46Speaker 4: actually have little things to work towards. My long term
- 11:49Speaker 4: goal is just to be financially free by the time
- 11:52Speaker 4: I'm in my forties and fifties, because obviously true wealth
- 11:55Speaker 4: comes with age and you can't be a millionaire tomorrow.
- 11:59Speaker 4: So I think that's quite realistic for me. And like,
- 12:01Speaker 4: I guess I am using a fire mentality. Okay, I
- 12:05Speaker 4: love this as well. So like I'm only keeping a
- 12:09Speaker 4: certain amount on my card, so like, let's say a
- 12:12Speaker 4: couple hundred on my card because obviously I don't really
- 12:14Speaker 4: have a lot of expenses, so I am able to
- 12:16Speaker 4: do that, and I'm very privileged and fortunate that I'm
- 12:18Speaker 4: able to do that as well. And I'm saving investing
- 12:21Speaker 4: the rest of my page as well. So along with this, like,
- 12:25Speaker 4: I just want to keep working hard, investing aggressively in
- 12:28Speaker 4: my twenties and thirties to be able to set myself
- 12:30Speaker 4: up towards when I'm in my forties and fifties and work.
- 12:33Speaker 4: If I want to work, work once a week, if
- 12:36Speaker 4: I want to work, like that's completely like up to me.
- 12:39Speaker 3: One of the girls in my team does that. You've
- 12:40Speaker 3: probably seen her brook, yes, and she shares a lot
- 12:43Speaker 3: of content around wanting to be work optional by thirty five,
- 12:48Speaker 3: Like she'll be able to retire at that age because
- 12:50Speaker 3: of the amount she's investing. And like, you're at the
- 12:52Speaker 3: perfect age where you don't actually have lots of overheads,
- 12:56Speaker 3: so as life starts to build up, you can make
- 12:58Speaker 3: these active decisions to not choose that. But it's so hard,
- 13:01Speaker 3: Like if you're in your thirties and let's just say
- 13:04Speaker 3: you're me right, You've got two kids, a husband, a mortgage.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Like if my husband and I decided to turn around
- 13:09Speaker 3: and be like, do you know what we're gonna like
- 13:11Speaker 3: do fire now. If we weren't in the financial position
- 13:15Speaker 3: that we were in, it's just not feasible. Like I've
- 13:17Speaker 3: got kids that I need to send to school, I've
- 13:19Speaker 3: got a mortgage that I'm already committed to, Like, I
- 13:22Speaker 3: can't change things as easily once I get to that age.
- 13:25Speaker 3: You're if only one the world is your oyster. I'm
- 13:28Speaker 3: so excited for you.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially because of I think with finance it
- 13:32Speaker 4: comes down to your mindset. I think that's the most
- 13:36Speaker 4: important thing as well, because of my mindset already, Like
- 13:39Speaker 4: I'm not the type, especially working in luxury faction, I'm
- 13:42Speaker 4: not the type to spend one thousand dollars on a dress,
- 13:44Speaker 4: let's say, Like I'm more like I'd rather put one
- 13:46Speaker 4: thousand dollars into the ETF that I invest into all
- 13:49Speaker 4: the time. Like I think, because I have that mentality
- 13:53Speaker 4: right now, I feel like it's kind of maybe like
- 13:56Speaker 4: couldn't be able to achieve this goal as well?
- 13:58Speaker 3: Do you then have to wear those says at work?
- 14:01Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a wardrobe so we can seleck from
- 14:03Speaker 4: as well, so we don't have to purchase. Yeah, that's
- 14:06Speaker 4: so fun.
- 14:06Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you later where you work once we're
- 14:08Speaker 3: not recording because we don't want to.
- 14:09Speaker 4: Put that over.
- 14:10Speaker 3: I'm like, who has a wardrobe out the back? So
- 14:12Speaker 3: you hold on, hold on, perfect you go to work
- 14:15Speaker 3: in like your normal clothes, and then you go to
- 14:17Speaker 3: this luxury wardrobe and you pick any dress and then
- 14:20Speaker 3: you get to go to work.
- 14:21Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever they have on the right, weick and choose anything.
- 14:23Speaker 4: That is so fun.
- 14:26Speaker 3: I've got questions, but not for this show. Yes, let's
- 14:29Speaker 3: go to a really quick break. I need to break
- 14:31Speaker 3: this up because I need to dive back into the
- 14:33Speaker 3: finances of it just after this. All right, money ters,
- 14:39Speaker 3: we are back and you are only twenty one, and
- 14:41Speaker 3: you are hustling hard. You are studying marketing and finance,
- 14:45Speaker 3: doing that full time at the same time as two
- 14:47Speaker 3: other jobs and an internship.
- 14:49Speaker 4: Like, I adore this for you.
- 14:52Speaker 3: Tell me, though, what are you investing in? How much
- 14:55Speaker 3: is in your investment portfolio? How does that work? What
- 14:58Speaker 3: does that look like?
- 14:59Speaker 2: Yees?
- 14:59Speaker 4: So I actually have an Excel spreadsheet because I am
- 15:02Speaker 4: type A organizers of my networth tracker. So at the
- 15:06Speaker 4: moment I broke down my portfolio, so I have twenty
- 15:09Speaker 4: six percent in shares, So that's across my concept platform
- 15:13Speaker 4: and the main two ETFs I do invest in two,
- 15:15Speaker 4: to be quite specific, is VGs and VAS. They pair
- 15:19Speaker 4: very well together, and that's around seventy percent of my portfolio.
- 15:23Speaker 4: And the rest is just kind of like thematic, like
- 15:25Speaker 4: fun kind of ones that I put on the side.
- 15:26Speaker 4: You are twenty one, and you're like, it's kind of thematic, queen,
- 15:30Speaker 4: What do you mean? They're kind of what thematic ETF?
- 15:33Speaker 3: Are you picking?
- 15:34Speaker 4: Like?
- 15:34Speaker 3: And how did you learn about this? Because like, this
- 15:37Speaker 3: is stuff that I'm talking to in my community. As
- 15:39Speaker 3: you know, you've listened to the podcast, but you're twenty one.
- 15:43Speaker 4: What do you mean?
- 15:44Speaker 3: Twenty three percent of my portfolio it was made up
- 15:46Speaker 3: at BGS and VAS.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Obviously through you guys. I listened to your podcasts every
- 15:50Speaker 4: single week, and I tell everyone I listen to your
- 15:52Speaker 4: podcast every week. I love you. Thank you as well.
- 15:55Speaker 4: It's just obviously being in the finance field and I
- 15:58Speaker 4: feel like just learning about I just like look it
- 15:59Speaker 4: up and I'm like, oh, what does this mean? Like
- 16:01Speaker 4: what does an ETF mean? What does a share mean?
- 16:03Speaker 4: What does you know? Price to earnings racehiome mean? Like
- 16:06Speaker 4: I kind of look up terms as well in my
- 16:07Speaker 4: own time where I do have time. So yeah, I
- 16:11Speaker 4: feel like that's how the how I know the lingo
- 16:13Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Here, can you tell me one of the thematic ETFs
- 16:17Speaker 3: that you've picked so we can talk about it, because
- 16:19Speaker 3: I'm obsessed.
- 16:19Speaker 4: Yes, So I have NDQ. Yeah, why do you pick
- 16:22Speaker 4: NDQ because it has the top one hundred tech stocks
- 16:25Speaker 4: in the Nasdaq. So I thought, let's just chuck in
- 16:28Speaker 4: text the future. Let's just like chuck a bit of
- 16:30Speaker 4: that in as well. I have VHY as well, high
- 16:34Speaker 4: yield and a lot of mine event God as well.
- 16:37Speaker 4: And I have a property one that as well, because
- 16:39Speaker 4: I want to add some property into the mix as well.
- 16:42Speaker 4: Those are my main ones.
- 16:43Speaker 3: VAP is a really interesting one because it's actually a
- 16:46Speaker 3: lot lower risk than a lot of other ETFs on
- 16:50Speaker 3: the market. So VAP is the vanguard Australian Property Securities
- 16:53Speaker 3: Index ETF.
- 16:55Speaker 4: And that is one.
- 16:57Speaker 3: It's called an ari and I've done whole podcasts on ariits.
- 17:01Speaker 3: It's actually called an ariit because it's Australian. But if
- 17:05Speaker 3: somebody is wanting to get into the market and they're
- 17:07Speaker 3: not so sure about the share market, but they love
- 17:08Speaker 3: property that could be a really interesting thing for them
- 17:11Speaker 3: to start like researching into because it gives you that
- 17:15Speaker 3: property exposure without having to buy a house.
- 17:18Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
- 17:18Speaker 3: Yeah, it does invest into like residential, office, retail, industrial,
- 17:23Speaker 3: like all property. So if that's something that people are like, no,
- 17:26Speaker 3: I really am a property girlie, that's where we might
- 17:28Speaker 3: be looking. When did you add that to your portfolio?
- 17:32Speaker 4: So that was added. I kind of restructured my portfolio
- 17:36Speaker 4: middle of last year. In July. I kind of added
- 17:38Speaker 4: a bunch of different ETFs into the mix because when
- 17:42Speaker 4: I started, obviously we all make mistakes. When I first
- 17:45Speaker 4: mentioned my three mistakes.
- 17:47Speaker 3: They're not mistakes. We pick things that we thought aligned
- 17:51Speaker 3: with our values and then they might not because you
- 17:54Speaker 3: learn more. But it wasn't a mistake, it was a learning.
- 17:56Speaker 3: It was a lesson.
- 17:57Speaker 4: Yeah. So transitioning from the three ETFs I chose, I
- 18:01Speaker 4: was like, I need to do some more international as well,
- 18:06Speaker 4: and a bit more in different like industries and stuff
- 18:09Speaker 4: like that. So to answer your question, that's why I
- 18:11Speaker 4: added that in it, especially because at the age I am,
- 18:13Speaker 4: I can't just buy a property like right now, like
- 18:16Speaker 4: I'm still and I'm not when I go to the bank.
- 18:19Speaker 4: Especially because I don't have a full time job and
- 18:21Speaker 4: full time income, I'm not going to be liable to
- 18:23Speaker 4: get a loan or anything. So I thought, let's just
- 18:25Speaker 4: add a bit of property into the mix. It's only
- 18:27Speaker 4: like around two three percent of my portfolio, so I thought, okay,
- 18:30Speaker 4: small things, let's just add it in. They add up.
- 18:33Speaker 3: I'm obsessed. And what other Are there any other ETFs
- 18:36Speaker 3: that you have that you're like, Oh, this one's really cool.
- 18:39Speaker 3: We might not have heard of it, or are you
- 18:40Speaker 3: just like, look, girl, I go with Vanguard, and I'm
- 18:43Speaker 3: quite comfortable because you've mentioned Vanguard and Beta shares so far.
- 18:46Speaker 4: Yes, I also do have a gold ETF. I think
- 18:49Speaker 4: the ticket is gold. Yeah. But to add to that
- 18:52Speaker 4: as well, I'm another part of my portfolio, which is
- 18:55Speaker 4: I do invest in gold silver. I do have a
- 18:58Speaker 4: large percentage in it, which is thirty six percent. So
- 19:01Speaker 4: I trop my way down to ABC Bullion and I
- 19:03Speaker 4: go and I'm like, hey, I want to buy this
- 19:05Speaker 4: much gold today. Hey I want to buy some silver.
- 19:07Speaker 4: So I think that's you doing with it? Is it
- 19:10Speaker 4: just done to your bed in a secret hiding spot
- 19:14Speaker 4: no one can find it? But after my first internship
- 19:17Speaker 4: I help with the family friend. I think he's a
- 19:19Speaker 4: very successful businessman. I asked him, so, what would you
- 19:23Speaker 4: recommend for someone my age to invest into? And obviously
- 19:26Speaker 4: he was going down listen. He's like, look, I think
- 19:28Speaker 4: you should buy some gold and silver. And that weekend
- 19:31Speaker 4: I went to ABC Brillion and I was like, I
- 19:32Speaker 4: want to make my first investment and to give you
- 19:35Speaker 4: a bit of numbers, which I know you love.
- 19:36Speaker 3: I do, I do, And I want to know your
- 19:38Speaker 3: total portfolio value as well. I know you're like doing
- 19:41Speaker 3: it in percentages and that's so so helpful, But an
- 19:44Speaker 3: idea of black is it twenty dollars? Is it one
- 19:47Speaker 3: hundred dollars that we're talking This girl has hundreds of
- 19:50Speaker 3: thousands of dollars? Like, where are we sitting, queen.
- 19:53Speaker 4: I'm reaching up to the six figure mark at the moment.
- 19:57Speaker 4: Look at a goal. So yeah, I'm proud of you.
- 20:01Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you to give us estimate. The
- 20:04Speaker 4: gold Sew portfolio has gone up to eighteen percent since
- 20:08Speaker 4: I invested two years ago. So yeah, I kind of
- 20:11Speaker 4: hit the mask actually form on the roof.
- 20:13Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, what type of return are you seeing on
- 20:16Speaker 3: that at the moment in terms of percentages.
- 20:18Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's at that eighteen percent, like in total
- 20:21Speaker 4: when I lost, calculate that, oh like a total return
- 20:25Speaker 4: percent but in my portfolio it's around thirty six.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy, and so when you go So
- 20:30Speaker 3: for those of you who don't understand the purchasing of
- 20:33Speaker 3: gold and silver, there are lots of different ways you
- 20:36Speaker 3: can do it. We just mentioned a gold etf that
- 20:38Speaker 3: you could purchase that gives you exposure to those things.
- 20:41Speaker 3: But when people buy gold or they buy silver, you
- 20:44Speaker 3: can also buy platinum. By the way, they often want
- 20:47Speaker 3: it as a tangible physical asset because it feels really safe.
- 20:51Speaker 3: You can touch it, you can taste it, you could
- 20:53Speaker 3: lick it, you could like put it beside your bed
- 20:54Speaker 3: if you wanted to. But as Money Dirist has mentioned,
- 20:57Speaker 3: you put it in a little Heidi hole. The more
- 20:59Speaker 3: that you get though Money Diarist, I would seriously consider
- 21:02Speaker 3: some type of lock box or storage option at a
- 21:05Speaker 3: bank because it does become a little bit scary having
- 21:08Speaker 3: those things just floating around the house. You can actually
- 21:12Speaker 3: go down to and how Money direst said ABC Bullion
- 21:15Speaker 3: that was not like a XYZ kind of term. Of reference,
- 21:19Speaker 3: Like it's called ABC bullion, and you can literally walk
- 21:22Speaker 3: in and say I would love to buy, you know,
- 21:25Speaker 3: half an ounce of a gold cast bar, and you
- 21:28Speaker 3: can literally purchase that. So money darist, I want to
- 21:31Speaker 3: know when you go down and purchase gold, are you
- 21:34Speaker 3: purchasing like half an ounce? So we like throwing a
- 21:37Speaker 3: lot of money at it. Are you purchasing like what
- 21:40Speaker 3: are you walking away with?
- 21:41Speaker 4: So I do a little bit here and there. I
- 21:44Speaker 4: think I've gone in let's say four times, So yeah,
- 21:47Speaker 4: there would be little purchases like let's say half an
- 21:50Speaker 4: ounce or one ounce for gold, and then so it
- 21:52Speaker 4: will be more towards like the five hundred grams A
- 21:55Speaker 4: do a couple depending on silver's cheap, how much money
- 21:58Speaker 4: I have to kind of then, so it just depends, yeah,
- 22:02Speaker 4: and how.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Much money it's worth. Right, So half an ounce of
- 22:04Speaker 3: gold right now is about three four hundred dollars I believe.
- 22:08Speaker 3: And then if you were to go buy like I
- 22:10Speaker 3: don't know, if you said five hundred grams of silver,
- 22:13Speaker 3: that's like maybe just under two grand. So like they're
- 22:16Speaker 3: good amounts of investing at the same time. And then
- 22:18Speaker 3: what you take your little bar home and hide it
- 22:21Speaker 3: somewhere very important.
- 22:22Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in a storage like compartment at the moment,
- 22:25Speaker 4: so yeah, it's a way locked away.
- 22:27Speaker 3: Yeahh important. But I think it's so interesting because when
- 22:30Speaker 3: people are like, oh gold or silver, no, no, no,
- 22:32Speaker 3: it can be incredibly physical, like you actually have to
- 22:34Speaker 3: transport that home and find somewhere to keep it. Yeah,
- 22:37Speaker 3: and it increases in value. And then if our money
- 22:39Speaker 3: direst was like, oh, I want this to be money again,
- 22:41Speaker 3: she could take it back to the same place and
- 22:43Speaker 3: they would purchase it off her at market rates, which
- 22:45Speaker 3: is very cool. I think, are there any other things
- 22:49Speaker 3: that you invest in at the moment, and if not,
- 22:52Speaker 3: what do you want to invest in in the future?
- 22:54Speaker 3: Or is this the plan? This is the portfolio because
- 22:56Speaker 3: you said that you'd rebalanced it last year.
- 22:58Speaker 4: Yees, so I do do you want to continue dollar
- 23:01Speaker 4: cost averaging? Because I do invest in my concept portfolio
- 23:05Speaker 4: every two weeks whenever I get paid, when all my
- 23:07Speaker 4: money gets you know, automated distributed, all that type of stuff.
- 23:11Speaker 4: But the next money goal is to obviously buy an
- 23:14Speaker 4: investment property. Obviously it is a bit difficult right now,
- 23:18Speaker 4: and with capital gains tax like the new laws, coming
- 23:21Speaker 4: into place as well, and how the market's going interest waits.
- 23:25Speaker 4: I don't know if that is going to be very
- 23:27Speaker 4: very soon or it's going to be like a couple
- 23:29Speaker 4: years into future, five years into the future. But that
- 23:32Speaker 4: is the next thing I would love to invest into.
- 23:35Speaker 4: But for the time being, I'm happy with where I
- 23:37Speaker 4: am at with my asset classes.
- 23:40Speaker 3: So tell me. I know the answer to this, but
- 23:42Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask, do you have any debt?
- 23:45Speaker 4: No? I do not have any debts.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Have you ever had any debt?
- 23:48Speaker 4: No, never want to enter that.
- 23:50Speaker 3: Have you ever considered being in debt.
- 23:52Speaker 4: I'll only be in debts which is good debt, which
- 23:55Speaker 4: my mum always tells me, is when I purchase a
- 23:58Speaker 4: property and get obviously the more and stuff like that.
- 24:01Speaker 4: That's the only that I'll ever be into. Credit card debt,
- 24:03Speaker 4: personal debt. That is just an ano for me.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, all right. I wish I could
- 24:07Speaker 3: get like every single twenty one year old in our
- 24:09Speaker 3: community and be like no debt ever, not allowed, bad
- 24:13Speaker 3: and like just not happening.
- 24:15Speaker 4: Now.
- 24:16Speaker 3: Talk to me. You're twenty one. Have you considered personal insurances?
- 24:20Speaker 4: If not? Why not? If so, what are you doing well?
- 24:22Speaker 4: Because I am still quite young. I haven't really thought
- 24:25Speaker 4: about personal insurances until actually starting to work at this
- 24:28Speaker 4: internship actually and getting exposed to all the types of
- 24:31Speaker 4: insurances and the companies and all that type of stuff.
- 24:34Speaker 4: But it is something that I'm definitely going to look
- 24:36Speaker 4: into for the future. But right now, I don't have
- 24:38Speaker 4: any personal insurances.
- 24:40Speaker 3: Yeah, very fair. So tell me a little bit more
- 24:43Speaker 3: about your subranuation because you probably have some default insurances
- 24:47Speaker 3: in there as a part of your investment portfolio. Is
- 24:50Speaker 3: that something you have been focusing on or looking at.
- 24:53Speaker 3: I know you work in a financial services firm, so
- 24:55Speaker 3: you've definitely been around the conversation. But what are you
- 24:57Speaker 3: doing personally?
- 24:58Speaker 4: Obviously starting work alright thirteen, but obviously the contributions when
- 25:03Speaker 4: I was fifteen, I never really looked at my super
- 25:06Speaker 4: until I went to a lecture actually recently, and the
- 25:10Speaker 4: lecture was like, you guys have to get your super
- 25:12Speaker 4: log into it and make sure that you're invested into
- 25:15Speaker 4: a high growth And I just like never thought to
- 25:19Speaker 4: look into my super. Like I know that sounds so
- 25:21Speaker 4: like funny, especially because like obviously all the funded knowledge
- 25:24Speaker 4: I have, like I just never really look into it.
- 25:26Speaker 4: So I did change it recently into a high growth,
- 25:29Speaker 4: so it's not into its default one as it was
- 25:32Speaker 4: when I was fifteen, So I guess that's going to
- 25:34Speaker 4: give me a better return as I go into the workforce.
- 25:37Speaker 3: And age totally, So tell me a little bit more.
- 25:41Speaker 3: I feel like you've got a really good one up
- 25:43Speaker 3: your sleeve. We already learned a few as well. But
- 25:46Speaker 3: what's your best money habit?
- 25:48Speaker 4: So I think I briefly touched on this, but I
- 25:50Speaker 4: think automating everything, so the day get paid, my money
- 25:54Speaker 4: automatically transfers into savings and the express goes into my
- 25:58Speaker 4: investment account. And then, as I said, I keep only
- 26:01Speaker 4: a little portion on my card that I spend, and
- 26:05Speaker 4: I have the habit majority of the time. Obviously, sometimes
- 26:08Speaker 4: I want to spend a bit more money, so I
- 26:09Speaker 4: transfer it from my savings, but like most of the time,
- 26:12Speaker 4: whatever money I have on that card, that's what I
- 26:14Speaker 4: spent for the two weeks and until obviously the next
- 26:17Speaker 4: pay So that's probably my best money habit. And as well,
- 26:21Speaker 4: when I go into work, I never spend it on
- 26:24Speaker 4: going out for lunch or anything like that. So I
- 26:26Speaker 4: think those two are like my biggest and best money
- 26:28Speaker 4: habits that I have.
- 26:29Speaker 3: When I was younger and I was in my first
- 26:31Speaker 3: like I don't know, I would call it like my
- 26:33Speaker 3: big girl job and in internships and stuff. Because I
- 26:36Speaker 3: did the same kind of thing that you did. I
- 26:38Speaker 3: felt a lot of pressure to go out with you know,
- 26:42Speaker 3: all the other girls in the office when they were
- 26:43Speaker 3: getting coffee or lunch or whatever. How do you manage
- 26:46Speaker 3: that situation when you're I guess so financially conscious you're like, no,
- 26:51Speaker 3: I'm not coming out, or like are you going along
- 26:53Speaker 3: and not buying the coffee? Like how does I guess
- 26:56Speaker 3: that new environment of being in an office where other
- 26:59Speaker 3: people doing it and you kind of want to be
- 27:01Speaker 3: involved and you're the youngest so you feel like you
- 27:03Speaker 3: need to how does that work for you?
- 27:05Speaker 4: I'm not like the best word to say is tight,
- 27:08Speaker 4: like of course, like I am happy to splurge on
- 27:12Speaker 4: like let's say, going out for coffee if it's just
- 27:14Speaker 4: like I guess, like as you said, in an office environment,
- 27:16Speaker 4: like I'm happy to do that. But obviously if it's
- 27:19Speaker 4: like all the time and stuff, I'm like, hey, like
- 27:21Speaker 4: I have my own lunch, I'm just gonna eat in.
- 27:23Speaker 4: But like you guys go out like that's completely fine.
- 27:25Speaker 4: But I am the type where I like, you know,
- 27:29Speaker 4: spending on people and being generous and like shouting everyone
- 27:32Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But at the same time, I
- 27:34Speaker 4: kind of limit that, and that's like an occasional going
- 27:37Speaker 4: out for coffee or going out for lunch, like let's
- 27:39Speaker 4: say like once a week or something like that. But
- 27:42Speaker 4: if it's continuous, then I'm like, hang on, this is
- 27:45Speaker 4: not for me. Yeah.
- 27:46Speaker 3: I feel like it's so much easier when you have
- 27:48Speaker 3: conviction in your goals to stick to them. I feel
- 27:52Speaker 3: like when I was a bit younger, I'd be like, oh,
- 27:54Speaker 3: I know, I don't want to spend the money on it,
- 27:55Speaker 3: but they have got nothing better to spend it on,
- 27:57Speaker 3: Like I'm just going to do this. But when you're like, no, no, no,
- 28:00Speaker 3: I'm like investing and I'm saving and like this is
- 28:02Speaker 3: so much better. I feel like you're so much more
- 28:05Speaker 3: likely to go, oh, I'm really happy to not get
- 28:06Speaker 3: a coffee, or I'm really happy to go and not
- 28:08Speaker 3: get one, because you don't automatically think, oh, they're gonna
- 28:11Speaker 3: think I'm cheap. You're all thinking not anything like that.
- 28:15Speaker 3: You're actually thinking, oh my goodness, I'm investing, I'm saving.
- 28:19Speaker 3: These guys are wasting money, and like the narrative kind
- 28:22Speaker 3: of shifts. I wish I had that mindset when I
- 28:24Speaker 3: was your age. Now, tell me, what do you think
- 28:26Speaker 3: your worst money habit is.
- 28:29Speaker 4: That's a good one. I feel like going to like,
- 28:33Speaker 4: let's say kmar Like, I know that's like such like
- 28:36Speaker 4: a Aussie thinker.
- 28:37Speaker 3: Saying no, it's a slippery sloping yeah, like just going.
- 28:39Speaker 4: In and being like, oh, this is cheap, like I
- 28:41Speaker 4: might as well just spend on her. And I feel
- 28:43Speaker 4: like I end up coming out and spending like what
- 28:46Speaker 4: fifty one hundred dollars on stuff that I didn't even
- 28:48Speaker 4: need when I walked in. So I think that's probably
- 28:51Speaker 4: a really bad trait that I have sometimes. Or even
- 28:54Speaker 4: going past let's say like a bakery or something, or
- 28:58Speaker 4: like a milkshake place, been like, oh maybe I should
- 29:02Speaker 4: just get one. I should treat myself. It's been a
- 29:04Speaker 4: long week. But other than that, those are my main
- 29:06Speaker 4: two that I have.
- 29:07Speaker 3: Fair Now tell me we've had a chat today. It's
- 29:10Speaker 3: been great, you said, I think I'm a solid b.
- 29:13Speaker 3: Everybody listening is wanting to shake you, just to be
- 29:16Speaker 3: really realistic because they're like, this girl is so good.
- 29:19Speaker 3: Tell me what would it take to get you to
- 29:22Speaker 3: say that you're an A with money? Because I think
- 29:25Speaker 3: everybody listening and I we're all sitting here going I
- 29:28Speaker 3: think she's an A already, But from your perspective, what
- 29:31Speaker 3: would it take to get there?
- 29:32Speaker 4: I feel like to get to an A, I feel like, well,
- 29:36Speaker 4: it is when I kind of reach the goal of
- 29:39Speaker 4: earning more like passive income. I guess being in a
- 29:42Speaker 4: position where I'm in a full time job as well.
- 29:44Speaker 4: I think that's and then I actually leave home, and
- 29:47Speaker 4: then I'll know the real test, like am I ready
- 29:50Speaker 4: for this world? Am I going to be on top
- 29:51Speaker 4: of my expenses and I'm the top of everything? I
- 29:53Speaker 4: think when I'm actually like at that age, then I'll
- 29:56Speaker 4: be like I'm an A. But at the moment I
- 29:58Speaker 4: would say, I'm still going to say a bit of
- 30:01Speaker 4: A being.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Okay, all allow it. I'm not going to argue with you.
- 30:04Speaker 3: But if I was to grade you, you would be
- 30:06Speaker 3: an A plus as a twenty one and all, Who's like,
- 30:09Speaker 3: you're so self aware, You're so knowledgeable, you are so smart. Curiously,
- 30:13Speaker 3: I feel like such a mum saying this, but I'm like,
- 30:16Speaker 3: your parents would be so proud. Oh, thank you, Like
- 30:19Speaker 3: I hope when Harvey and Cammie are like twenty one,
- 30:21Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I'm an investor, I'm a saver, I'm
- 30:24Speaker 3: doing like it's just so cool to see, Like I
- 30:28Speaker 3: just feel like I didn't even have that much conviction
- 30:30Speaker 3: at twenty one. So I just thank you for sharing
- 30:32Speaker 3: your story. Thank you for letting me be really pervy
- 30:34Speaker 3: about what ETFs you've got. Thank you for letting me
- 30:37Speaker 3: be shocked about you having thematic ETFs and being like,
- 30:41Speaker 3: oh no, I added this in because I'm actually a wizard.
- 30:44Speaker 3: I love these conversations, and I just know the community
- 30:46Speaker 3: would have loved hearing this one. So it's been a privilege.
- 30:50Speaker 4: Thank you, my love, No, thank you, thank you for
- 30:52Speaker 4: having me on the show. And I hope that whoever
- 30:54Speaker 4: is listening just start investing. Even if it's just a
- 30:57Speaker 4: little bit, even if it's like a lot, does it matter.
- 31:00Speaker 4: I think just starting is the main thing. I agree,
- 31:02Speaker 4: Even if you're my age at twenty one, or you're
- 31:05Speaker 4: let's say, like just about to retire, I think starting
- 31:08Speaker 4: is the most important thing.
- 31:09Speaker 3: I agree. And the money tarisked here. She's going to
- 31:11Speaker 3: take my job in like five years. I'm telling you
- 31:13Speaker 3: right now, she's coming blast.
- 31:15Speaker 4: Thank you.
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