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Andre The Giant, Ice Cream Etiquette, and Old Friends · Talk About That

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  Speaker 1: Life audio.
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  Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that John does the work of
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  Speaker 2: three grown men and learns why Benjamin Franklin was a
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  Speaker 2: lot like Andre the Giant. Meanwhile, I eat the last
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  Speaker 2: ice cream bar while out on tour with another comedian
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  Speaker 2: and tell you the tale of the Satanic panic that
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  Speaker 2: helped start the Black Plague in the twelve hundreds. Plus
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  Speaker 2: a conversation about why it's so hard to make new
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  Speaker 2: friends as adults. Today's episode is not sponsored by Kleptomaniacs.
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  Speaker 2: We take things literally, but first a work from our
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  Speaker 2: actual sponsor.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, it's John and Johnny. Another episode of talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we're back again.
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  Speaker 2: We're out here. Consistency. Consistency, yes, the name of the game.
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  Speaker 1: People like to think that what we do is easy.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, podcast equipment should be more expensive?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it did take us a long time to
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  Speaker 1: get this off.
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  Speaker 2: Should it should be harder to get hold of something
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  Speaker 2: that you could broadcast your dumb thoughts into the world.
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  Speaker 1: I think that maybe, I think maybe you forget all
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  Speaker 1: the stages.
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  Speaker 2: What you hope is well that people who whose thoughts
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be hurt in the world, they'll be weeded out
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  Speaker 2: and it won't work out right. But it's just not true.
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  Speaker 1: It's not true anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know which one of those were the
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  Speaker 2: example of, but we're the ones who didn't get weeded
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  Speaker 2: out because we roast to the top we're worth hearing,
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  Speaker 2: or we didn't get weeded out because it's just not
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  Speaker 2: that great of a process anymore. I kind of think
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  Speaker 2: that most of who's doing the weeding, because most of
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  Speaker 2: my things are just pure stubborness. I just don't I
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  Speaker 2: just go further than I should, longer than I should have,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what you want to call that? Tenacity, grit, foolishness,
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  Speaker 3: who knows what it is.
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  Speaker 2: There's a fine line, Yes, there is a fine line.
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  Speaker 2: But that's okay. We're out here. I bought your lunch today.
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  Speaker 2: I want credit, you did. I want credit on the
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  Speaker 2: air you did.
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  Speaker 3: He used a gift card, but that I.
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  Speaker 2: Could have bought. But I'm saying I could have used
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  Speaker 2: it for myself.
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  Speaker 1: I gave you money meals for me. Who gave you
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  Speaker 1: the gift card?
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  Speaker 2: Rob Harris? It was in my little gift member. I
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  Speaker 2: told you I got a little gift basket from my
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  Speaker 2: scooter tobacle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It had all kinds of fun cheeky little gifts in
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  Speaker 2: it. It had a Batman mask, and it had like a book.
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  Speaker 2: It had a coloring book about like, so you've got
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  Speaker 2: a new nose now, like if you've had a nose job,
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  Speaker 2: which I didn't need a nose job, thanks God, thank god,
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  Speaker 2: but because it was broken but not it was fractured
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  Speaker 2: but not completely displaced, so I didn't but it said
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  Speaker 2: like it was all these drawings and you could color him.
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  Speaker 2: It was like my new nose getting used to my
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  Speaker 2: new notes. I don't know where he found this book,
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  Speaker 2: but there was a lot of really funny, little cheeky
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  Speaker 2: things in there, and one of them was a gift
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  Speaker 2: card to Longhorn, And I was like, we go to
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  Speaker 2: Longhorn quite a bit. That's where we usually go to
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  Speaker 2: do our little podcast pre meeting. So I thought, today,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna bring this card with me
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to surprise John and then I want
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  Speaker 2: full credit on the airplane.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to say it meant a lot to me.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, and you seem probably I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Said anything negative about it at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, I do appreciate it, but it is You're right,
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  Speaker 2: it was a gift. But then I you know, I
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  Speaker 2: could have used the gift for your mother, real friends,
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  Speaker 2: yeah right, or just myself. I could bout two meals
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  Speaker 2: and for myself with it at once.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, that would just be superfluous. That is wasteful.
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  Speaker 2: Keep bringing it every now and get on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Tell this car's empty. I want you to fill this service.
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  Speaker 2: So when you're on the road and there's a tour manager,
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  Speaker 2: they send out text mess in the thread. You'll have
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  Speaker 2: a thread with everybody that's on the bus or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll be like, here's the menu for tonight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you're kind of like, you know everyone's in the
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  Speaker 2: thread seeing what you're ordering, and like, whoever the headliner
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  Speaker 2: is that's paying for this, Yeah, you kind of Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you want to be a little parafef this day and lobster, right,
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  Speaker 2: you want to be a little careful, so you're like,
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  Speaker 2: but you're also watching. Sometimes you get to let you
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  Speaker 2: start feel yourself a little bit. You've been doing a
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  Speaker 2: tour for a long time, Like I know some headliners
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  Speaker 2: who have travel with the same openers forever. And then
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  Speaker 2: if I go out, I'm just there for that week.
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  Speaker 2: I watch them and I'm like, guess guy's getting But
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  Speaker 2: I remember being out with one guy and somebody got
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  Speaker 2: two entrees. Oh he goes blah blah blah and this
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  Speaker 2: and dessert, and I was like, dude, this ain't your money.
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  Speaker 3: See but I would want to not be the cheapest
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  Speaker 3: guy and not be the most expensive.
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  Speaker 1: I would want to.
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  Speaker 2: Find Yeah, why do you want to be the cheapest guy?
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  Speaker 1: Because to me, the value you're saying I don't.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying like I'm small, small potatoes, so bring me
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  Speaker 3: the small potatoes. You know what I'm saying, Like, you're
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  Speaker 3: actually I don't deserve to be here, and I fundamentally
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  Speaker 3: you think that.
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  Speaker 1: The ultimately already believe I don't deserve to be here,
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  Speaker 1: so I have to fake that.
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  Speaker 2: But it comes off like imposter syndrome. You're saying, if
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  Speaker 2: you just order the cheese, just bring just have a
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  Speaker 2: cheese stick, and that's all I want. Yeah. There was
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  Speaker 2: one meal with John. I was out with John Chris
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  Speaker 2: last week and I remember I got one meal. I
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  Speaker 2: just didn't like anything of there was. The meats were
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  Speaker 2: all weird and it was all like stuff. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: understand it was a fancy restaurant. So I was just
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  Speaker 2: like they had like a cheddar biscuit and they had
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  Speaker 2: like some kind of fingerling potatoes and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to do that. But it was still
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money, and I was like, this is
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  Speaker 2: all I really want. But I'm sure I looked like
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  Speaker 2: the carb king. Dah, that's a lot of But then
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's funny because it wasn't as much money
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  Speaker 2: as that other people's andrees I did go back because
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  Speaker 2: I looked at the desserts and they had like a
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  Speaker 2: chocolate ganache tart thing, and I was like, can I
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  Speaker 2: also get a chocolate And then in the thread John
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  Speaker 2: goes ha ha ha he ha hat it and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh no, oh, so I had. And what's
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  Speaker 2: funny is I didn't get the chocolate tart, Like did
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  Speaker 2: they fell through the crack so or I got ha
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  Speaker 2: had like look at the guts on Johnny here trying
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  Speaker 2: to get a chocolate tart out of me. And then
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  Speaker 2: so I made a point of mention on the bus.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, by the way, I never got my
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  Speaker 2: chocolate tart, so I'd just like to.
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  Speaker 1: Say yeah, you're haha, can yeah, go bye bye.
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  Speaker 2: But he had a box of uh Snickers ice cream
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  Speaker 2: bars on the bus and he's eating one, and I go,
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  Speaker 2: where are you getting these? He goes, They're right down
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  Speaker 2: here if you want one, And so I got one.
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  Speaker 2: And then the next day I go and the box
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  Speaker 2: is still. It's a box of like five or six,
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  Speaker 2: and I go and I reach in. He's he's in
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  Speaker 2: the hotel or somewhere. It's the last one, and I go,
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  Speaker 2: do I take the lamb? He told me about these?
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  Speaker 2: He told me it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Who else did he tell?
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  Speaker 2: After the show that night, he goes looking for that
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  Speaker 2: box and I'd taken the last And if he's listening
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  Speaker 2: to there's no way John's listening. But if he is,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry John, that was probably that was I knew
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  Speaker 2: it was the last Nickers ice cream bar. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: the head.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever like Uber eats food to the bus.
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  Speaker 2: When there's no need. There's food everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you could have replaced that, Oh, you're right, you
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  Speaker 1: could have dash from a grocery store or something.
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  Speaker 2: But it was like one There was like twelve hours
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  Speaker 2: left in the tour for that week, but the man
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  Speaker 2: wanted I didn't know. I thought wanted to be he's good.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe his sweet tooth is satiated, but no, he went
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  Speaker 2: looking at here, you're sweet too, he goes, he goes,
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  Speaker 2: he just goes. They're all gone, and I just was like,
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of like because it's like, what do
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  Speaker 2: you know they have? Maybe something. I'm sure the person
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  Speaker 2: didn't mean to whoever.
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  Speaker 1: It was was, I sure you should go easy on him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, So I don't want to get into this into
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  Speaker 1: where it could.
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  Speaker 2: Go, right, but I want to talk about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I had a volleyball trip my daughter and I.
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  Speaker 2: She did a beach camp Prospect Camp kay Salisbury, North Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: where they make the steak, right, you come for the steak. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I messed that up, so you left covered in mushroom gravy.
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  Speaker 2: It was a disaster.
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  Speaker 3: So literally we had all this time and my daughter
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  Speaker 3: was like, let's go see the Michael Jackson movie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And so I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to talk about Michael Jackson. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about what I don't.
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  Speaker 3: It's listen, we do important things in the podcast, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we're reagised to dive into that, and.
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  Speaker 2: Do we separate art from artists? Is that what we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do?
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that right now. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying that I endorsed anything about it or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say this, this is too many
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  Speaker 2: qualifying sounds to far Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no relation, yeahs not a nephew.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is he really? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You didn't know this?
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't know this. This is why why he's
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  Speaker 2: a dead ringer? Then, right, I forget which brother is
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  Speaker 2: one of his sons? Obviously, Yeah, this is a nephew
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  Speaker 2: dead ringer. It's like you're watching Michael Jackson and apparently
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  Speaker 2: my daughter's resoarchd this a lot. The man took two years, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and worked with.
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  Speaker 3: All of all the dance, all of his choreographers ever
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  Speaker 3: and had every move down pat and it was like,
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  Speaker 3: how do you feel at Michael Jackson or his music
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  Speaker 3: or whatever?
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  Speaker 1: It was like watching him. It was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I remember when the What's Love Got to Do With
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  Speaker 2: It came out in the late eighties and who was
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: the star of that? She was in Gosh, she was
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  Speaker 2: in that Waiting to Exhale movie, Angela Gosh. I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember her name. Now, anyway, who ever played Tina Turner
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  Speaker 2: in that movie? Look it up, who ever played Tina Turner.
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  Speaker 2: I remember seeing Roger Ebert do the the the review
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  Speaker 2: of that movie back when Ciskel and Ebert was a
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  Speaker 2: big deal and to get their thumbs up was a
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  Speaker 2: big deal for your movie. So he goes, there's a
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  Speaker 2: scene in it where Tina Turner has a cameo. The
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  Speaker 2: real Tina Turner comes in one of the court room scenes,
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  Speaker 2: is like a court snographer or something, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: a little cheeky, the real Tina's there, and he goes,
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  Speaker 2: it was so strange, He goes, it took me out
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  Speaker 2: of the scene because I felt like I didn't need it.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like I was watching Tina Turner. That's how
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  Speaker 2: good the performance was. And that I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, is like it was that good, You're like
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  Speaker 2: you're watching You felt like you're watching Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, this kid is doing what.
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  Speaker 2: Angela Bassett, Yeah, Angela Bassett.
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  Speaker 3: This kid's doing what I thought only one person could do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like that, I mean the stand on his toes, the whole,
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: All of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I could stand on my toes. You hear a
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  Speaker 2: lot of cracking. Yeah, my toes will break, buddy. My
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: foot still not fully healed from the scooter thing. You
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  Speaker 2: haven't I walked in No, I don't think. I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: I think my moonwalking day is maybe over. I'm more
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  Speaker 2: likely to walk on the actual moon than to do
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  Speaker 2: a moonwalk. Yeah that's good, but uh yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: I think what the reason is. I think I tore
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  Speaker 2: my planet Fashia, and I think it's just not it
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  Speaker 2: takes that long to heel's can take six or seven
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  Speaker 2: weeks for it to fully heal because it's in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of my foot. Yeah, and I think I just
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  Speaker 2: tore it. And so there's just a there's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a burning. Like if I go a long day,
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  Speaker 2: I feel it not aching, and then I wake up
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  Speaker 2: the next it's a little stiff. Still, so my limp
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  Speaker 2: is way better. I mean, I gotta run through these airports,
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  Speaker 2: So you gotta have a you gotta have some you
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  Speaker 2: don't need a hitch in your giddy up. John. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it's getting there. But I think that's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, moonwalking, it's not standing on the I used
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  Speaker 2: to do. I used to try to pee Wee Herman dance.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the Peple Herman when he sings tequila and he
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  Speaker 2: dances on the bar top and pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I had some shoes that were really stiff at the points,
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  Speaker 2: like some old ponies or pumas, and I could stand
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  Speaker 2: on them and they wouldn't crumple. And I would toe
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  Speaker 2: walk for like to impress people, to make people laugh,
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  Speaker 2: even as like a sixth grader. When that movie came out,
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were.
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  Speaker 1: Like super introverted and nervous.
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  Speaker 2: No, I had. I had spurts. I had spurts where
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  Speaker 2: I would be like I had funny things to say,
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  Speaker 2: and then the people were like, that's great, that's so funny,
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  Speaker 2: let's not hang out. So I was like the class
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  Speaker 2: clown and not liked.
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  Speaker 1: See what you've already told by teammates, by classmates later
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  Speaker 1: that actually you were liked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I think I maybe came off as
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  Speaker 2: aloof to people because I was so I felt worthless,
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  Speaker 2: so I projected that and it came off as snobbery
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  Speaker 2: maybe to people, you know, because I'm like, well, you're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna like me if I let you into the
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  Speaker 2: real me. So I hold you at an arm's length,
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  Speaker 2: and you go, well, that guy's really he holds people
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  Speaker 2: at arms length. Let's not get in there. But you
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  Speaker 2: don't know that when you're a kid, No, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't know what you don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You can't know, and you can't. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: Living my life.
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  Speaker 3: As a motivational speaker of sorts, there are certain people
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  Speaker 3: that you can articulate the the both the problem and
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  Speaker 3: pathways to solution to them, and it clicks with them
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  Speaker 3: and they go immediately and apply it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I could say, hey, listen, logic is it works?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: The vibe that there is a vibe you can give
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  Speaker 3: off that will be a self fulfilling prophecy to things
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  Speaker 3: that could happen to you, you know, and you won't
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  Speaker 3: know why. But if you recognize the vibe, oh okay,
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  Speaker 3: and you get that there are others you know that
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  Speaker 3: are not logically driven.
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  Speaker 1: And then if you don't believe.
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  Speaker 3: In nine enneagram types or whatever, you know, I at
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  Speaker 3: least subscribe to three subtypes of head, heart and a gut.
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  Speaker 3: That I meet people, it just always aligns that somehow
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  Speaker 3: they tend to begin in that place. Then it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: know where they stay. But certainly in childhood, you can't
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  Speaker 3: just say to someone who feels or has a gut
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  Speaker 3: reaction first like I'm going to give you the logical answer,
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  Speaker 3: and that's gonna for me. It works like if you
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  Speaker 3: give me the logical answer, I almost immediately start applying.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean I can fix the problem or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: but I will go, oh, I recognize it.
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  Speaker 1: But yes you can't.
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  Speaker 3: If you were that kid and you were in an
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  Speaker 3: emotional place, odds are you couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Just walk up and go, hey, Johnny, you know what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing? Yeah, you just would have been.
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  Speaker 2: I remember my first my first like real girlfriend broke
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  Speaker 2: with me and somebody said that They go, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: girl broke up with This is the older person trying
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  Speaker 2: to like comfort me. And they were like, this girl
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  Speaker 2: broke up with me. And I saw her like two
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  Speaker 2: years later, and I was like, I cannot even imagine
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  Speaker 2: ever being with that person. I was so relieved that
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  Speaker 2: we hadn't ended up together. He was trying to comfort
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  Speaker 2: me and it didn't help at all. No, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was just boohooing and sad, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: thanks a lot oldie. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've had kids say, you know, why are we talking
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  Speaker 1: about you? And it's like I was trying to make you.
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  Speaker 2: We weren't.
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  Speaker 1: Really, I'm over it. I was trying to make help.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take a minute, John, and not to think about ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: It's good because we're gonna hear from a few of
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  Speaker 2: our friends who are advertisers on the show. Let's take
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  Speaker 2: a moment.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, you should try to comfort people.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, please, I mean it could be a logical
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  Speaker 2: person that could yeah. Yeah, but sometimes you need to know.
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  Speaker 2: If you thrown that triad and you're like, this is
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  Speaker 2: a head person, this is a gut person. Maybe you
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: go at them with that. I don't know. How do
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: you how do you approach well?
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, the first thing you do.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: You know, logic isn't gonna work.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: It's not that the.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Logic doesn't work, it is that you can't just bypass
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: the other things that are there.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they all.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody has all three.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: This is a matter of what order it comes in
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: and if the one is basically, when to use a
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: word like clogged. If if your emotions are out of sort,
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: you're not gonna be okay until those things. So I
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: think the number one thing you can do is say
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I can validate the feeling.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Gotta I've tried to do a better job of that. Like, hey,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I can see how right.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: This is not the end of the world. You can
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: be like, I can see why you think this is
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: this It feels like the end of the way world, right, Yes,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: speak the languages to start there, and just you know,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: sit in that and I'm I'm really sorry that feels
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: And that's really hard, you know.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: So, and you're clogged right now, start with that.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Listen, I know you feel you're emotionally clogged.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Here, drink then I Am going to drink this tiny
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: blue drink and then you're gonna have a heck of
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: a night.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I'll pick you up at six for the koloscopyright. Hey,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Johnny's about that. Okay, that's my segment.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: We call it. They talked about that. I'm gonna go
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: with Leiah Coca. Oh, Chrysler. Yeah, he was the CEO
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: of Chrysler. Right, founder, what was he?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Founder? And ceo?
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: He said.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: My father always used to say that when you die,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: if you've got five real friends, then you've had a
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: great life.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: That's good. You know, he said I need four more
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: and then he died.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: You know, this is I think I would have heard
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: this quote in my teens in twenties, yeah, and thought.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Poor guy.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: It's another thing where like an old person could say
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: it to you. Yeah, and you bet you're so lucky
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: that you could be like, I wish I had more
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: friends than they'd be like, but you've got so and so,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and you're so lucky. Listen at my if you're so lucky,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: if you just have one real friend, and'd be like,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: beat it, old timer.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, dude, why did nobody like you?
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: You're imagining a person that like everyone likes and has
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: these wild parties at their house and they're everybody's favorite person,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and those are just like the Gatsbies of the world.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: That's a real myth, it.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Is, And I think it's also as you get older,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: friendship is it's more complicated than I thought, because friendship
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: never felt complicated to me. I mean, I'll be real,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: your experience in school was a little different than mine
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I started. I mean, I was riddled with insecurities, for sure,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: but I mean I kind of felt like I had
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: friends in every group.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I was popular or not.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: But it felt like your class president.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I was class president and student council president, and you know,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I did all the things, but it was on that front.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a big athlete, but yeah, but you were.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Kind of You were in an environment where you were
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: rewarded for being smart and clever. That that was how
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: you weren't like call the nerd. I think that you
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: were an achiever and people like these people rewarded your achievements.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is I think people did think
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I was a nerd. Oh really, But I think that
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: for some reason it worked because I didn't care. Yeah,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and I care fiercely what people think about me. But
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, it must have been for my dad
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: or something else. My dad and I had this. I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: pretty certain I have perhaps more than a touch of
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: neurodiversity in my own life. And I told my wife
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: the other day we were driving home from a long trip.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Like but I started working twelve hour days at like
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: nine and ten with my dad and dad teaching me
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: how to work really hard, sweat to see the sun
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: rise and then work until the sun sets and that
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: feeling at the end of the day when your feet,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I mean are blistered and hurt and you're covered in
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: because I was mowing grass, right and you're covered in
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: grass and you're you know, your weed eater is hot
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: and everything's nasty and greasy, and a rock hit you
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: in the face and you're bleeding and like this was
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: my life, wonderful it was, and sunburn, and my dad
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: would put his arm around me and we'd walk back
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to the truck together and.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: He'd say, son, today you did the work of three
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: grown men. You were worth more than three grown men
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to me today, and I'm proud of you. And it
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: was never like just perform for Dad's approval.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It was guys behind that we can hear you. We
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: heard that they threw the rock, that it didn't come off.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: But like I think somewhere in there, I just Dad
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: put me in motion working, yeah, And I just always
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: was like it taught well, I think the thing it
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: taught me the most was and it wasn't patience, but
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it was like, oh I learned how after I don't know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: by the time I was fifteen, probably that you get
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: in the you get into the first ditch of the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: day with a weed eater and the sun's barely risen.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: You feel like, oh my gosh, this is gonna take forever.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: But I've done it so many times it's like, hey,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: it's okay. Just do the next thing, and eventually this
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: day will be over and you have conquered it, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: you love that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It was almost like a reward.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: You're gonna love the feeling you get when when that
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: thing's done. And that's how I felt about writing books
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and everything. It's not like I'm gonna telling you I get.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I get the same apprehension as anybody else. I will
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: stare at a page for a month sometimes like I
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: need to get that started. I need to get I started.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: But I know the feeling of finishing. Yeah, and I
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: always go if I just keep going, trust God, work hard,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be okay. And I think maybe that translated
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: into my school stuff some of like I'm just gonna
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: do what I do because I drove Listen, we went.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I went to a private school and there were rich
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: kids there.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I drove this nasty old nineteen eighty eight
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: pl with sun Dance with defective paint.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: But it became among like our friend group almost like
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the mascot.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like it was one of those I wasn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: embarrassed to ask a girl out and take her out
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of the sun dance, Yeah, because I just I would
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: make fun of it or I was proud of it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I would like, you know, I mean, it wasn't And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I think I look.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Back back to Lee Ikocha's point, how many of those
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: friends do you still a couple of friends?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: One really one I have a friend of you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: we've we stayed on and off in contact, and he
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: was my college roommate. With each other's weddings and we
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you know, we talk now almost weekly. But that's it
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: took a long time. It wasn't always that way.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you just go.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I think that I thought friendship would be easy, right,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and then you get into your thirties, especially in forties,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and I think it's when you have kids, especially, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: your life takes off for.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: When adult friends are hard for guys too, because it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: not like if you like, if you're like because of
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: part of all the gender roles too, it's like if
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you're a guy and you're like, I don't have a
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: lot of guy friends and I'm an adult now, there's
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: not like a thing where you're like, do you want
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to go do something? You're you're so apprehensive of like
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: putting yourself out there, whereas in school you're forced together,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: let's go do recess. You're putting these situations where you're
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: gonna have to like make a friends somebody, you have
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to make friends. Yeah, there's gonna be into this end
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of the year trip. You're like, who am I gonna
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: buddy up with while we're at Dollywood? You think about
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: it from the middle of the year, they go Dollywood's coming,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you think, who am I gonna palle around with? There's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: not that in adult life. You're not like I'm gonna
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: ask that guy to go play golf with me? Like
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you have to you put yourself because what if he
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: says nowhere thinks you're weird. So the adults just stop
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: making friends deep friendships. Yeah, who is it? Ben Rector
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: had a song called you Can't Make Old Friends Interesting,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and actually he did the video. It's a really cool
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: moment because he did the video for that song with
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: his old band from high school, and he shot it
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: in his garage, so they're playing all the parts in
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the song, and because it's all of his old friends. Wow,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: and he's in his old he got his old house
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and his old garage that they used to bang out
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: these you know, when he was an awful high school
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: band and they're playing the song. So it's kind of
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: a cool moment for him. But like, uh, yeah, it's
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: hard to make old friends. So it's like, yeah, if
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you've been friends with somebody sin high school, it's some
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: many teaser, just jump back in because you have that
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: nesto out you have to say, even if they've changed,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and then of course we have, but you have that first,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: you have that shorthand with them.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: No, it's the host think of the day. See you
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: and I met in nineteen ninety seven.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be thirty years. Yeah, you were going
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: into your freshman year. Yeah, thirty summer before your freshman year.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, dude, to have a best friend for thirty years, yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, and to think about all the stuff you've
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: done to derail it and still somehow it is Really
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it has really been hard to cut this off.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: It's like weed eating a ditch. I'm just like I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: got to get through that. I got to get to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the end of this thing. You know, someday when we're
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: old and dying, I'll be like, I'm glad I did that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've carried this thing. I feel like
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I've done the work of three grown men as far
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: as this relationship is concerned. Now, I feel like I've
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: been hit with a lot of rocks.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I did tell somebody that's old. I don't know who
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it was. I think we were having a serious conversation.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: About friendship in your adulthood, and I said, look, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: have I named you. It's like I have a few
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: friends I have, Johnny have Andrew in terms of you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: my my guy friends. I have a few friends that
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I know they're real friends because I know I'm not
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: easy to be friends with. And it's not because I'm
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: not a nice guy or something. I know my life
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: is not easy, and they have never We might have
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: tension or you know, hurt feelings or whatever on things,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: but friendship really is a little bit like marriage, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: that respective you have to keep choosing it. You have
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: to be like, hey, you know and so as a
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: loyalist for me, Like again, I'd be so devastated, like
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I would do anything, like I'd be like, bro, what
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: do I got to do, you know, to make this
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: right kind of thing?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know I had that power. Oh yeah, let's
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: get some negotiations going.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's one of those though.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I think I think that there really is a rich
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to say, Hey, did I have what we want?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Is twenty seven real friends?
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you have five, and I think that number's
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: gone down if you've got two, Man, if you got one, like,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: don't think that you're poor in this world if you've
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: got one true friend.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: One thing I really think is interesting is like the
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: people in your life who when you're around them, you
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: feel like you're the only person in the room. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: really want that, Like, I want people to feel like
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: they have my undivided attention when they're with me, even
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: if they're out my best friend. Like, there's only a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: few people I can think of that were really like that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: One of them was Travis Wyrett that did our record.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: He had such a magnetic personality and he was so
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: such a great listener, because that's part of the job
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: as a record producer. You're trying to hear what people
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: want and when you're thinking ideas in your head, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: he's always churning. When I saw School of Rock with
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Jack Blike, everybodyed me so much of Travis because that
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: manic energy, yeah, trying to create when he's like telling
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the kids, no play this, now play this. I was like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: that's Travis. But Travis had that thing of like every
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you one hundred people think
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Travis is their best friend because of how magnetic he
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: is and how giving he is.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of people that think of my
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: wife was one of their closest friends because she's so
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: good at listening and.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Hearing what's going on.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have to be on to her for like, hey,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: make sure you don't neglect then what you may need
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: you know, from others. I will say, like, again, you're
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: the kind of friend Andrew does this that I know
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: when I'm spun out, like I know that you set
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: aside what's going on in your life for this lunch
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about mine, the same thing I've
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: just spun out upon last month or whatever. But a
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: good friend will go they won't say anything that's like
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: keep asking questions even though you are know the answer
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: is probably you are because you know it's not really
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: about me getting the answer. It's about right, I need
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: to I need to, you know, emote this or I
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: need this to You're clogged, So.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Dude, you're just clawed. The theme of the show to
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: unclogged this stuff.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Leiah Coca and hey, Johnny, thanks're a good friend.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: He was a founder of Chrysler and not in fact
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: aya Coca Cola, which would have been a slam dunk.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: What was he make a cola and just call it
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: coca cola and completely we would have never heard of pepsi. Well,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I went to saying that Coca cola would be like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: what are you doing do? And he goes, Hey, that's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: not what it's my name. Sorry, I mean, what are
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: you gonna do? He could assume them for using his name.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Oh is it too late? It probably probably takes you passed.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: It's not for him, for somebody else down the line. John,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Let's do my segment. Let's start with old jokes. We
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: call it joke about that John. One day a man
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: went to an auction. There he found an exotic parrot.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: This is a true story. He really wanted this bird,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: so he got caught up in the bidding. He kept bidding,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: but he kept getting out bids, so he went higher
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: and hire and hire. Finally, after the bidding much more
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: than he had intended. Uh, he finally won. The bird
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: was his. As he was paying for the parrot, he
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: said to the auctioneer, I'm sure if this pair isn't effective,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I'd hate to pay this much money only to find
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: out that he can't talk. Of course he can talk,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: said the auctioneer. Who do you think at bidding against you?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I think I saw that you saw that one coming
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: in a little minute. Okay, Parent, I don't know for hi,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Parent would have been the auctioneer better?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Oh man, parent impression?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Parent does an auctioneer?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Go all right, dude, I saw this video. It's one
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: of those like you. I feel like my Instagram algorithm
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: is now all dog accounts and people who have sanctuary
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: farms for donkeys and stuff. I mean, it is like
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: everything I look at is just like donkeys hugging people
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and putting their resting their head and smiling on the people. Donkey,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, donkey and these dogs. But I saw
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: this video, and it's an older video evidently, but it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a true story of this man in Brazil who was
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: just like a farmer, and he lived on the coast
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: of Brazil, and he so his backyard is basically a
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: little beach front, and but he was not like rich
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: by any means. But he's walking along the beach one
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: day and he sees a penguin, a magellanic penguin that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: was had oil spill and the pic could barely raise
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: his head. So he spent like three days cleaning the
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: oil off this penguin, and the penguin just stayed in
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: his yard for like months until he was strong enough,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and then he took the penguin, put him in his boat,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: rowed him out to like a nearby island. Let him lose,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: You're free. By the time he gets back home, the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: penguin's in his yard. Back in his yard, he stays
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: another like eleven months, and then he just is gone
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: one day and the guy's like, well, that was it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You know, we did our part. This penguin's now going
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: to go. And then but now and this was like
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: eleven years running when the video was shot, which I
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: think was like twenty eighteen or twenty seventeen. For eleven
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: years in a row, the penguin returns twice a year,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: and the scientists do not really know why. So they
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: tracked the penguin at one point and it was swimming
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: five thousand miles one way in open water to back
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: to where it's from and the Magellan whatever islands mating
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: raising its young and then you know, the mother raises
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the young mostly in penguin culture, and then it heads back. Wow,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it comes and visits him, and he's the only one
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that the penguin will allow to touch him, Like he
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: can approach the penguin, but nobody else is, Like he'll
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: get skittish around any other human. He knows, and he
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: knows that that backyard, that one the instinct of this penguin.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: He knows exactly five thousand miles one way of open water.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: He does it like twice a year, and he did
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: it for the point of this videosna Is eleven. He
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: was fascinating. I'm not really like a huge bird, guy,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: but like it makes me like go shweobe and chicken,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Like these are smart some of these birds man and guys.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: There's stuff going on, man.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And it's like Lea Coca's dad said, at the end
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of your life, you've had five real penguins.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said, They asked. They said they did at
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the end of the year. They said. They asked the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: guy like, how do you feel about it? I can't
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: remember the guys then dn dim is what he named
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the penguins. How do you feel about them? He goes.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: He did not hesitate. He said he's like a son
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to me. I mean, how could it not be? Your
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: son's not going five My son's not swim five thousand miles.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You think said he's going to swim five thousand miles
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: for you, maybe to get away from you. Jesus wise John.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: A guy pulls up to a gas station. Okay, the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: attendant notices there are five penguins in the back seat.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: That's you. After this, the attendant says, what's going on?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: You have five penguins in your back seat? I know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: The guy says, they jumped in at the light, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: now I don't know what to do. Tendant, thanks for
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a second, and said, I'll tell you what i'd do.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I'd take them to the zoo. That's a great idea,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: says the driver. Week later, some same driver pulls in
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: with the same five penguins, only now they're wearing sunglasses.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? I thought I told you to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: take this penguins to the zoo. He says, we did.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: We had a great time. Today. We're going to the beach.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: His name's Dim Dim. No it's not. It's not. The
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: flat circle one of those was a true story, but
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: that second part not so much. John. Let do this
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: week in history, we call it talk about then, John.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: This week nineteen thirty seven, the Duke of Windsor married
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: American divorcee Missus Wallace Warfield Simpson. He renounced the throne
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: for love. I think it's happened since then. Didn't it
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: happen with the actress? Somebody renounced his role? Some prince
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: renounced his role for the actress. I can't remember. I don't.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I don't follow royalty. Oh, keep talking about Megan mark
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Meghan Markle. That was that was a renouncing for love, right,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't That doesn't? But I don't think he was the
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: He wasn't the director apparent. It wasn't he the spare
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the spare apparent? Can you air a spare anyway? John?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: This guy, the Duke of Windsor, he gave up his
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: throne as King Edward the eighth to marry her in
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six, becoming the Duke of Windsor. His brother
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: then became King George the sixth. So yeah, that's a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: that's true love.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Do you watch the Crown?
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: But I mean again, I say that knowing that, like
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: maybe he didn't want to be king, and also you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: still gonna be taking care of the rest of your
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: life probably right, You're still from royalty. It's not like
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: he's like, and now I'll be destitute.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch the Crown?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: No?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Bro, what are you doing?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just not fascinated by England's You
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: need to go watch The Crown. Hey, we started a
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: little country in seventeen seventy six to get away from
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: all that two and fifty years ago.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe you heard of it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Listen, you need to go watch The Crown because that
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: whole storyline's unbelievable.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's probably a they're probably embellishing a lot
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: along that way, aren't Yes, But so why I want
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to start there? I don't think don't start me there.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's like saying you want to know about JFK.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Go watch the Oliver Stone movie. Were they just like
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: speculate the whole also.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Watch documentaries on it, so you could watch those all right,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: and they're great, But no, it was it was a
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: really big deal and George, his brother, had a major
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: stuttering issue.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It was just about the king's speech. I know about
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the King's speech. I saw that. Well, I've seen everything
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I need.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: To say, and that's Elizabeth's dad.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: So like, there's a lot that changed the course of
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: twentieth century, twenty first century British history through that process.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: But yes, he did live very well off for the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: rest of the time.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're going to be taken care of.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: John this week seventeen fifty two. Reportedly, on this day,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin flew his kite proving that lightning is a
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: form of electricity. Now this is a lot of one
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: of those like where folklore kind of gets into history,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But this is a lot of accounts of this. According
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to Franklin's description of the experiment, a silk kite with
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a string that led to a key was to be
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: flown during the early stages of a storm. The kite
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: had a separate silk string that was attached to the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: kite string near the key. The kite flyer was to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: stand under a shelter so that he in the silk
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: string stayed dry, protecting them from the electric charge. It
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: is unlikely that the kite was actually struck by lightning,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: as is in the All the stories say that the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: key was struck by lightning, but more so that he
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: would probably have seriously injured Franklin if there was actually
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a lightning strike, But it probably just gathered electricity from
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the storm, as Franklin predicted it would. This and his
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: lightning rod experiments helped prove that lightning was a form
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: of electricity.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: And so by the way he began the lightning rod,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: putting up lightning rods after that, or amazing.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: On the huge building, starting a lot of fires.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think about it anytime you hear about
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: anything in historical buildings they burned down, and a lot
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: of that was lightning strikes. The Benjamin Franklin World, which
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: is a new book by Roger now, The Benjamin Franklin World.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: But I'm still reading Washington. It's my vacation.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: That's a big book.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: That's one of those like thousand pages.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I met like I meant like five hundred and ninety.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: You know, what's too many, but he was such.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: They were the So Benjamin Franklin was one of those
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: people who was a true global celebrity in his own lifetime.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only a few of those.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like in those days especially, but he
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: was the most the most famous American and the most
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: famous Americans certainly in Europe. And obviously he was an
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: ambassador to France, and it was you know, a lot
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: of the behind the scenes stuff with the revolution. And
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: then George Washington be the other one. And interestingly enough,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: when they go to create the Constitutional Convention. Of course
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Franklin's pretty old at that point, but it was like
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: whoever the president of the Convention was going to be
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: was probably gonna become the President of the United States
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: if they ever created a constitution, which their whole purpose
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: was not to create a constitution, they said, but was
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: stated to revise the Articles of Confederation.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: So they ended up, you know, doing a lot more
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: than they said they were going to do, because they could.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: They were scared to get people were scared to come
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: if they said they were just going to redo it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And but.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Franklin deferred and basically was the one that suggested that
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: George Washington.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Be the Begause could.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I think he knew he was already Again, that's seventeen eighty.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: You just didn't want to do it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I think he's news too old, and that he knew
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: he had the he knew how famous he was, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: he tried to get George Washington to come to Europe
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and visit.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Washington never left.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't need it. I'm already. I'm already,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I'm doing everything I need to do.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Washington just wanted to be at Mount Vernon and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: do planting and stuff.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like Andre the Giant under the Giant,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: and they never put the belt on Andre because if
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: you did, if you had Hulk Hogan, you didn't need
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to put the belt on because Andre was a draw
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: under himself. He knew it. They knew enough to know, Like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: why would you You're wasting a championship on Andrea because
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: he's a draw. You know, he doesn't need the belt
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: to be a draw. Wow, that's Benjamin Franks Franklin, Benjamin,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: we never knew you were gonna te was gonna tie
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin, Andrea the Giant, but he was the Andrea
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: the Giant politics.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Franklin the Giant, that's what they called him.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Nobody that it's probably five eight.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: And ANDREI wait, yeah he was. He was a yeah.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: John. This week in twelve thirty three, Oh remembers that
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: h Pope Gregory the ninth his first papal bull, his
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: first I guess the Vox Romana. He described the devil
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: worshiped by witches as half cat and half man, the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: half cat half man figure and established the cat as
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: a creature of the devil. So he's kind of just
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: doing this preaching off the cuff. By the way, I've
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: decided that the devil's half cat, half man. So by
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: demonizing cats, it led them to them being killed throughout Europe,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and this ripple effect led to the decimation of Europeans.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: European cat population led to an increase of rats and mice,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: which in turn led to the spread of black death. Interesting,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: so this guy gets up and just preaches whatever that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: he's so powerful like this is it makes you think
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: about what you preach this Sunday. Tell you what, don't
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: be out here demonizing cats. What's funny is we have
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a cat in our neighborhood. I'm allergic to cats. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I never really liked cats because they hurt me. They
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: make me my go. I go, yeah, they go. I'm
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: going like full on cut me mick eyes. If I'm
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: around a cat, I get asthma attacks. But there's a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: cat that's so like friendly. It's Astray. It was astray
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and now it's kind of an adopted by this family.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: But they let it because it won't stay in the house.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: It's one of those like it's lived outside its whole life,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: so it just won't. So it goes house to house.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Just loves some people. And it's name is Sale. It's
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: a black cat, and I get the sail them anyway.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: But this cat will just walk right up to you,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and I mean I want to pick it up so bad.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: It is the sweetest cat. It makes me want a cat,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: but I can't. I'm at Salem. I love you, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: he'll you know, he does the whole thing where he
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: goes between your legs and does the whole Figure eight.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe if you over time exposed you a little bit
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: of day, Yeah, a little bit of day to build
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: up your tolerance to cat dander.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe all take some cyanide too, just a little bit
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: just enough that won't kill me, just ruin my day,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: just enough.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: In about two three years from now, you'll be able
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to pet a cat and you'll think, Wow, that was
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: worth it, or you'll die of sinide poisoning. Either way,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: something perhaps nondescript will have happened.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I just I just want a pet so bad. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: need a pet right now.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just maybe you need to get a pet. That's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: like maybe like a fish.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: That's the thing is, if I had a cat, we
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: could probably justify having a cat, because we go on
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the road a lot. Take your cat, can take care
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: every self, litterbox, change the little box, maybe somebody comes by.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Get one of the automatic kitchen, automatic feeders. Cat's not
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: gonna grieve usually that you're gone that much. A dog,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you just can't do it. But if I could be,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: maybe I get shots, I get allergy shots, then we
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: can get a cat. Maybe do you really want to
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: carry it into the show and let me know if
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: that's a thing. Has it ever been like real cat
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: or allergie shots? Worth it? Is it? Is? It? Does
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: it really reverse your calories? Does it really mitigate enough
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to where I could be a cat owner? Because if so,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I think I could see doing it. So how would
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: somebody get in touch with the show John?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Then we go to talk about that podcast dot com?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Or they'd send an email to Hello.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: At talk about that podcast dot com. Also over four
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: hundred episodes if you want to, they're archived right on there.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: And anyway, Yeah, maybe I get a cat. Maybe I
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: think it might fundamentally change our friendship. You might not
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: be in one of my five? Are you not a cat? Heard?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Are you like Haye cat's that much?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Do I hate them ergic as well?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well you or not? It's like you're over my
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: house all the time.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: That's true, and this would be a good reason not
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to come to.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You're like, we can't, I couldn't. You're a home turf guy.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: You're like, what you're cooling over? I got the pool? Okay,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I a grill?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Do you have a pool? Do you ever offered a grill?
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: How often do you use that pool versus what you
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: spend on it? Would you put in a pool if
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: you didn't have a pool.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: The pool's not for me.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Would you put in a pool if you didn't have
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a pool?
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: No, yes, not for me. Listen, I don't like cold water. Yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I get in the pool a couple of times a year.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It's not heated. Your pool that's really hot.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So it's shallow, so it warms up pretty quickly.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I know somebody else is sha't that don't.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Preach you want it though.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: You even invited me to the pool this year, partly
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: because I have some deck repairs. I'm waiting on my
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: friend to come.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I'll trip and fall through the deck. I mean that
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: was like, well, we can't lighter friends, we go.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Right through this like a sack of dirt.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: That's fine. Message received.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: No, I want to have you over. I'm just not
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: even home again.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It's fine.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: In fact, when this comes out, I won't even be here.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: That seems like I was dying.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I was. If you're listening to this show a horrible accent,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I'll just be. I'm gonna now read John's will.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Podcast to Johnny, that was dark. Get another host that
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: you really like.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Now, nothing can happen because we've said all that all flippantly,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and we'll have to edit it out like they knew
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: something that, Oh it'd be bad. You don't know how,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: but if you say it, it won't happen. I'm gonna I'm
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: gonna say it because it won't happen.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna put this in there to posts, you know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: like schedule it, and you won't be able to stop it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Something happened. I got to get to the John's computer.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, what if I was like on a
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: submarine and my computer went down with me or whatever?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Are you going to volleyball try out on a submarine?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That you're headed to volleyball camp in a submarine and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: this thing was expensive? Well wait, once you see it,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: you'll know why. This is a very strange camp, says
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: in the Navy. Now, oh, seven year deal, it would
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: be cheaper. You're probably right.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey guys, well man, thanks for all the time
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you gave us this week.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Make sure you check out Johnny w j n n
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: i EW dot com for lots of new tour dates
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: and lots of opportunities to see his live show with
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: many amazing openers. And you're gonna want to go be
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: a part of what Johnn's doing out there in the road.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: But thanks for the time you.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Gave us this week. Let's do it again next week
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: hereon talk about that