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Mystery Episode - we said we'd NEVER talk about this 😳😬 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: Apodjay production.
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  Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the
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  Speaker 2: land on which we gather today and pay our respects
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  Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect
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  Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara.
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  Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level
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  Speaker 3: up together.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, and find the
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  Speaker 4: lessons to grow and Glow. Nothing is off the table
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  Speaker 4: with Grow and Glow and we're here to be your expander.
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  Speaker 3: Hey guys, welcome back to Grow and Glow.
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  Speaker 4: We are really different episodes. So you would have seen
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  Speaker 4: the title mystery episode. It's because it's a mystery what
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about. We have no idea. I'm nervous. Our
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  Speaker 4: podcast producer is taken control. Yeah, we literally have no
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  Speaker 4: idea what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: No exciting, I know. So, I said a Katie, she's
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  Speaker 3: got to share her share of the week.
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  Speaker 4: It's not on us today for you. Let us know.
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  Speaker 1: My share of the week is going to be something
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  Speaker 1: that makes the best cheese toasty ever.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so we all have cheese toasty yes this morning?
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  Speaker 1: Make them? How we make them? You know what the
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  Speaker 1: secret is? Mayo on the outside of the bread. What
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  Speaker 1: go Mayo on the outside of the bread. Then you
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  Speaker 1: put it in the cheese toasty maker and then you
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  Speaker 1: wait until it goes crispy.
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  Speaker 3: So no butter, no better thin thin like I need
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  Speaker 3: to know how to do this thinly.
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  Speaker 1: I would say good, a good layer okay, but not
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  Speaker 1: too thin on both outside.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a massive Mayo person, but I'm tempted to
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  Speaker 4: try it because the crispiness is getting me.
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  Speaker 3: Is it CP Mayo that you use or like Mayo?
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  Speaker 4: Mayo? Any Mayo? Okay, we're gonna try it. Try it.
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  Speaker 4: Watch the space all right? What have you got for us?
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  Speaker 4: What are we doing today?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna ask you the hard hitting questions that
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  Speaker 1: I think people want to know, but it's gonna make
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  Speaker 1: you really uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wow, Okay, please do it, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Question number one, how lucrative is social media and which
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  Speaker 1: is the best money making platform.
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  Speaker 4: It's different on every single platform. We were actually talking
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  Speaker 4: about this this morning. So for you, it's YouTube. For me,
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  Speaker 4: it's snapchat, yep, which is really interesting. Ye, Instagram is
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  Speaker 4: more paid sponsorships.
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  Speaker 5: Would you say, though, that your Instagram sponsorship's pay more
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  Speaker 5: though than Snapchat.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but a lot of brand's book a package that's
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  Speaker 4: Snapchat and Instagram. Okay, but like week to week, I
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  Speaker 4: make money off Snapchat just for being on there. You
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  Speaker 4: make money from YouTube videos for just creating videos.
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  Speaker 3: And I get paid more for my sponsorships on YouTube too,
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  Speaker 3: because it normally longer the effort that needs to goree
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  Speaker 3: in them and they're there forever, Whereas like a story's
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  Speaker 3: gone in twenty four.
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  Speaker 4: And Snapchat's only just started paying creators and there's only
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty of US Australia wide that are
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  Speaker 4: getting paid. And in America you have to have over
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  Speaker 4: fifty thousand subscribers to get on the Creative Fund, which
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  Speaker 4: I do have. I have nearly I think less than
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  Speaker 4: half a million on Snapchat. But it's pretty cool because
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  Speaker 4: I've been on there for like probably ten years now.
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  Speaker 4: It's in the last year I've actually started making money.
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  Speaker 4: They just put ads in there now, so it's not
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  Speaker 4: even in our control. But it's cool. But in America,
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  Speaker 4: TikTok have a creative fund for all their creators, and
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  Speaker 4: we don't get that in Australia no, but yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 4: sponsorships is where the big money is, and some brands
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  Speaker 4: will pay more than others depending on if they book
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  Speaker 4: a package, if they want you on one platform, multiple platforms,
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  Speaker 4: even Instagram stories like one frame compared to three frames.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of negotiations back and forth, and I
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  Speaker 4: find if the brand books a bigger package there's more
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  Speaker 4: of a discount. Do you work like that too, Yeah
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  Speaker 4: obviously as well.
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  Speaker 5: Like Ash's got a lot more followers than what I
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  Speaker 5: have got, so our pays.
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  Speaker 3: Would really differ.
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  Speaker 1: How much money do you make from.
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  Speaker 5: Just those platforms, not including like love elesros and Grow
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  Speaker 5: and Glow and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, like six figures plus?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely through COVID, my influencer work was just making
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  Speaker 4: more than my businesses.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is just crazy. That's carried my business through
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  Speaker 3: hard times.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's awesome because naturally most of the products
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  Speaker 4: I would talk about anyway, So to be able to
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  Speaker 4: work and get paid for brands that you talk about
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  Speaker 4: naturally anyway, it's just so cool.
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  Speaker 5: Give your followers a discount, like if they benefits everyone true,
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  Speaker 5: then they get a discount as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll ask you a question. Is there a brand
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  Speaker 4: that lately or just ever that has offered you big
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  Speaker 4: money and you've said no, and why?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, heaps of times if it's clashed with another brand
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  Speaker 5: that I love and I use, Like, for example, I
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  Speaker 5: get offered a lot skincare, but I'm loyal to the
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  Speaker 5: brands that I use, And yeah, if I just haven't
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  Speaker 5: liked the product, like people have actually sent me stuff
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  Speaker 5: and I've used it and I've been like, oh nup,
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  Speaker 5: don't like it, yeah, multiple multiple times, and then I
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  Speaker 5: just it's just I'm not doing it.
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  Speaker 4: I once got offered a lot of money. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was like fifteen thousand dollars to promote this big
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  Speaker 4: dial doo h really And I've said it before, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't like big hard. It was this huge, like
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  Speaker 4: hard big dildo and they wanted like a U tube video,
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  Speaker 4: an exclusive one Instagram. And back then too, I just
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  Speaker 4: wasn't very open with my sexuality and my sex life
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  Speaker 4: and I was just like nope. And then there was
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  Speaker 4: this booby tape that's not the brand, but it was
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  Speaker 4: a brand that just did this tape that you put
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  Speaker 4: on your boobs to lift them up. I gave me
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  Speaker 4: blisters and like ripped on my tanelf and it was
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  Speaker 4: just awful. But it was huge money. They wanted like
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  Speaker 4: a twenty five thousand dollars contract. Yeah, and I was like, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's literally ripping off my skin. But yeah, it's definitely
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  Speaker 4: a huge industry now. So there's definitely a lot of
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  Speaker 4: money to be made, but it ebbs and flows. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: like sometimes it's not really there. And then podcasting, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't make any money last year.
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  Speaker 3: We paid we paid for record.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we just had no idea about sponsorships or anything
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  Speaker 4: like that. Or we had like a couple of sponsors,
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  Speaker 4: but they paid for our fees to go and record. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: Whereas yeah, this year will earn money for being on podcast,
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  Speaker 4: which is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: So would you say you're welcome by the way, would
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  Speaker 1: you say, and Jay, would you say you could make
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  Speaker 1: aside from your other brands, if you just did social
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  Speaker 1: media only, you can make it very comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, and a lot less stress. There has
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  Speaker 4: been times where I'm like, do I want to run
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  Speaker 4: a business because if I had more time to create content,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I'd probably be doing shit time, more traveling.
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  Speaker 4: I would have way less stress, and it would be
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  Speaker 4: so easy content creation, Like, definitely you have to be creative,
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  Speaker 4: and there's still a lot of work involved, but it's
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  Speaker 4: very fun, flowy in your own time kind of work.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like you know how you said it,
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  Speaker 5: ebbs and flows. I feel like for it to be
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  Speaker 5: that consistent income where it's working, And you'd also have
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  Speaker 5: to make sure that you are constantly looking for work,
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  Speaker 5: whereas like you kind of work similar to me, you
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  Speaker 5: have an agency and they just like email when the
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  Speaker 5: emails come through.
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  Speaker 4: I've just signed with my first agency this week. I
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  Speaker 4: was personally managed by my old PA and she's been great,
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  Speaker 4: but I've just signed with the agency this week, So
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see where that takes me in just
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  Speaker 4: the connections and relationships they have already built with some
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  Speaker 4: of the big brands that I want to work with. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but we could easily live off the online money very
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  Speaker 4: comfortably for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well that it's very interesting because it leads me to
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  Speaker 1: my next question, what would you do if social media
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  Speaker 1: disappeared tomorrow? So no Instagram, no Facebook, no TikTok, no snapchat.
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  Speaker 1: What career would you go into?
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  Speaker 4: You guys are gonna laugh so hard at this, but genuinely,
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  Speaker 4: I reckon I would still look into this. It was
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  Speaker 4: two jobs that I wanted to do growing up, with
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  Speaker 4: being a police officer. The only thing that turns me
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  Speaker 4: off now is the shift work. I didn't be doing
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  Speaker 4: a night shift. I would struggle, but I've always been
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  Speaker 4: very interested in that. And then, don't judge me. I
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  Speaker 4: had such a cute job, but dog washing. I always
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  Speaker 4: wanted to own my own dog wash and I could
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  Speaker 4: still work my own hours. I get to be around
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  Speaker 4: animals all day. They just like dogs and cats just
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  Speaker 4: light me up. So I love animals. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I just think i'd really enjoy that, meeting the people,
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  Speaker 4: meeting the dogs and just giving them a wash. I
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  Speaker 4: think it's such a cute, fun job. It's cute.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, something I honestly want to do, just because I
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  Speaker 5: think it would be really cool. But also it would
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  Speaker 5: be a great thing to do if something like that happened.
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  Speaker 5: Is I would rent my house out and grow a
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  Speaker 5: caravan and go traveling with my family and have somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Else paying the bills by renting our house. I think
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  Speaker 3: or if I had to actually get like.
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  Speaker 4: The Kurt doesn't want to do that disease.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it'd be amazing memories.
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  Speaker 4: It would be so cool.
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  Speaker 5: When they get older, maybe I think it might change,
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  Speaker 5: But otherwise, videography or photography for sure.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I wanted to lean into. I'm not going
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  Speaker 4: to but if social media wasn't a thing too is
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  Speaker 4: after I gave birth to Tala, I think being a
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  Speaker 4: birth photographer and videographer would be incredible. Like all my
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  Speaker 4: friends that are pregnant, I'm like, do you want me
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  Speaker 4: to come in and film from content? Just being there
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  Speaker 4: to experience that moment with women I think is such
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  Speaker 4: an honor and privilege and I just think it's the
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  Speaker 4: most beautiful thing women giving birth. I would love to
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  Speaker 4: help and assist and be a support system for women,
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  Speaker 4: But I wouldn't want to be a midwife where once
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  Speaker 4: again the shift work and four years of study, Like
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  Speaker 4: I'm just at this age in my life where I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to do that. But if I could go
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  Speaker 4: back in time and I wasn't doing this, I reckon
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  Speaker 4: being a midwife or a photographer for birthing would be incredible.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you reckon you would go with the
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle changes that potentially having those careers would bring in
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  Speaker 1: in terms of nowhere near as much money.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, if you'd ask me a year or
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  Speaker 4: two ago, I would have had a very completely different
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  Speaker 4: answer to now. But now, going through this health scare
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  Speaker 4: and feeling really really stressed and overwhelmed and wanting to
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  Speaker 4: slow down, I think I value more slow time with
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  Speaker 4: my family rather than that hustle culture that I've been
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  Speaker 4: in for so long. And I'm not putting that down.
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  Speaker 4: I loved my hustle season, but I think I would
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  Speaker 4: actually really enjoy a slower pace life and the more
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  Speaker 4: not to put money down. But the more money you
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  Speaker 4: have and the bigger your businesses and more success you have,
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  Speaker 4: it also has the downfall of more stress, more overheads,
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  Speaker 4: more things to worry about, more people needing you. I
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  Speaker 4: think I would actually really enjoy it that the slower
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  Speaker 4: pace life, because I've experienced and done so much with
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  Speaker 4: having money and running businesses and stuff. I think there'd
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  Speaker 4: be certain aspects that would be in adjustment maybe, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I would hate it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, honestly, I'm not a big spender if
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  Speaker 5: I am buying something, I'm investing usually back in the business.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not someone who really grows out and splurges much.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'd honestly be living a very similar
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  Speaker 3: lifestyle to what I am now. Like we don't really
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  Speaker 3: travel too much, we don't really like right now. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we've got little kids.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we have them in a good school, and
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  Speaker 5: we have our home which we've been trying to pay
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  Speaker 5: off and stuff like that. I think it would be
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  Speaker 5: honestly very similar for me, because yeah, at the moment,
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  Speaker 5: when you're growing a business, you just keep putting money
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  Speaker 5: back into it, so we take our age and then
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  Speaker 5: it's not our money.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about school fees this morning, at our school fees.
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  Speaker 3: I don't own school. Yeah, sell my house, have some
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  Speaker 3: money in the bank again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just leaning on from that. Has there been a
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  Speaker 1: particularly stressful situation where you've gone, let's just pack it
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  Speaker 1: all in and do a nine to five god? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So many times?
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  Speaker 1: Can you think of an example?
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  Speaker 5: Just highly stressful times, like financially, trying to hold everything together,
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  Speaker 5: and I think especially with having love Ellis Rose, there's
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  Speaker 5: just so much output and you work so hard for it.
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  Speaker 5: There's so much involved, even in the back end that
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  Speaker 5: people wouldn't really probably think about social media, don't know,
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  Speaker 5: or maybe sometimes the trolls when I'm just like fuck it,
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  Speaker 5: I'm overhearing shit.
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  Speaker 4: But when you put all that investment for that stock,
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  Speaker 4: when you were just going to do your own deercands,
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  Speaker 4: that was a big time for you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was hundreds of thousands of dollars that we
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  Speaker 5: invested in that when it was right before like everything
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  Speaker 5: started to really shift with the RBA rate rises and
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  Speaker 5: we were like, oh my gosh, and everything with COVID
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  Speaker 5: got delayed, so it was meant to come like a
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  Speaker 5: little bit here, a little bit there, a little bit there, all.
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  Speaker 3: Turned up at once.
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  Speaker 5: We had hundreds of thousand dollars of stock that we
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  Speaker 5: had to move and we're like, oh my gosh. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was a stressful time for sure, But that is business.
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  Speaker 5: And I think sometimes people think, you know, you're making
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  Speaker 5: this money, you're doing these things, but like, fuck, there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of risk involved, and you know, you never
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  Speaker 5: know how long everything's gonna last for and just enjoy
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  Speaker 5: and be grateful for the seasons that you're in and.
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  Speaker 4: You're always putting back into the business, Like you got
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  Speaker 4: amazing launch, and then your next two collections, the down
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  Speaker 4: payment's due, and then the full payment's due, and then
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  Speaker 4: the shipping. It's I feel like you're always putting back
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  Speaker 4: in and people don't realize that. But yeah, there's definitely
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  Speaker 4: been times where I've just gone, this is just too hard.
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  Speaker 4: I've just not made out for this. And I've always
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  Speaker 4: said it and I'll still say it now. I would
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  Speaker 4: not be running a business if I didn't have the
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  Speaker 4: support of my husband. I'm not made to run a
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  Speaker 4: business by myself. I don't think I have not putting
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  Speaker 4: myself down, but I just don't think I have the
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  Speaker 4: mental capacity and the knowledge and the skill set that
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  Speaker 4: he does. We work really well together because we've both
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  Speaker 4: got such strengths and weaknesses. But I had a business
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  Speaker 4: partner for Baseline. They had their own hugely successful streetwear brand,
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: and then when they sold and I had a new
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: business partner, we bought our share off them, and that
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: was a lot of money to buy that out, and
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  Speaker 4: then we also had to pay for the next six
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  Speaker 4: months worth of stock, so it was just so much
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  Speaker 4: money in and up. It was just such a huge risk,
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: sitting down and just be like, I will support you
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  Speaker 4: with everything you want to do, but are you are
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  Speaker 4: one hundred percent sure you are all in because we
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  Speaker 4: are going all in baby, and you need to be
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  Speaker 4: fully committed. And I was like yes, I mean, like,
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  Speaker 4: let's do it, nothing else I want to do. I'm
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  Speaker 4: prepared for the risk. But it's so scary. And that's
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  Speaker 4: why always say owning a business is not for the
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  Speaker 4: faint hearted. It's not for people that are not risk takers.
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  Speaker 4: You have to be riskaken to be an entrepreneur. You
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  Speaker 4: can't have certainty as your highest need.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we can't take those big risks.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes flop and a lot of people thrive, Like Steve
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  Speaker 4: not so much now he's gotten older with children, but
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  Speaker 4: before that I feel like he would thrive on the uncertainty.
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  Speaker 4: Certainty was like the last of his priorities. He would
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  Speaker 4: thrive and like get off on the uncertainty of like risking.
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  Speaker 4: And our business over the years is done really, really well,
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  Speaker 4: so we have been able to take some big risk.
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  Speaker 4: But for me growing up, certainty was a high need
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  Speaker 4: of mine. My mum's got a very scarcity mindset around money,
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  Speaker 4: so I feel like, I'm nicely balanced now, and so
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  Speaker 4: is Steve. But yeah, you have to be quite a
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  Speaker 4: risk taker and be prepared for real high highs and
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  Speaker 4: really low lows. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Have any of those risks been so extreme that you
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: potentially could have lost everything?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Yep. And it's so scary.
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  Speaker 4: And then I also like the embarrassment and shame that
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  Speaker 4: when you share everything online, Like, how do you explain
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  Speaker 4: that to your audience? Yeah, when I have those moments
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  Speaker 4: where I'm like, fuck, this could flop or this could
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  Speaker 4: not do well, how do you explain that to your audience?
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  Speaker 4: It's really scary. And you're putting this once again, putting
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: yourself out there to share it all. It's fucking scary.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Hey, it's hard for people to tell, like their friends
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: and family when they're going through hard times.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let alone.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: Like, and people don't talk about this, so it's not normalized.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: No one talks about the hard times and the stress
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: and even just cash flow. I never hear anyone talk
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: about cash flong business. It's hard. It's so hard to
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: understand and manage and forecast, Like, it's really stressful. But
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: I don't ever hear any business owners talk about that
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: because I think it's the one thing most people really
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: struggle with. But yeah, there's definitely been times over the years.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: We've been in business for over fifteen years now, there's
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: definitely been moments where I'm like, fuck, yeah, this is it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And have you had anything that you've launched or
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: something that you've done that has been a failure and
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: potentially lost your money?
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: I started this bracelet brand that I had. We had
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: an idea, so we went to Tarongazoo and I was like,
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: how annoying is it like trying to watch the kids?
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Somebody went missing, Like we need to like write our
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: number or something on them. Then we're like, what if
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: it gets rubbed off? We just had a pence. We
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: made bracelets with like phone numbers, so it's kind of
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: like an ID bracelet. When you go new idea, when
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: you go to certain places.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Launched it. Fucking trolls went off.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: And you even actually told me this story because I
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: kind of assumed, but you're really emotional, so I just
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: didn't bring.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: It up because I thought it was a cool idea.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's genius, But what actually happened.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Were like, what if it falls apart and my kid chokes.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: This is so fucking stupid. Blah blah blah. I could
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: go make one of these for a dollar. There was
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: so much outside noise and it got me. I was like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: shut the whole fucking thing down. Paid for all the
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: stuff I had been doing, like il read, done, all
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: the photo shoes, organized the whole thing, and I could
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: not handle the trolls with that one.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: That night I.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Bawled and I was like, remember, I'm like I'm.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Just shutting it down before it even and you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: every business starts off somewhere and over the years you
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: get better, you improve, you change things. But it was
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: like I was just so fucking slammed, and there was
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: so much outside noise and I was like, this is
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: not worth my mental health.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Cy you know, I broke my heart with that. Was
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: when I was crying to Steve. Actually that night you
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: went online so made you cry now, but you went
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: on and you were like, oh, you've won, and I
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: was like so angry. I'm getting so much. I was
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: like so angry that they had won because you I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: thought this side team was great and I've seen the
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: work that you put in. I just hate if outside noise,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: fucking Karens like, do get the better of us? Because
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: we work so hard on everything that we do. We
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: put so much money and time and sacrifice so much.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: And that night you launched to be like an hour
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: or too late. They won or it was like no,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: And even Steve's like, oh, I wish you didn't even
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: go on and say that, because they get what they
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: want and now they're feeding off that, you know, they
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: go into the forums. And I was so like upset
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: and I was like, you fuckers, I didn't and just
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: so protective as her best friend. I was like, fuckers
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: like and it was nothing that I could do. Like
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: you know when you're getting that warrior like protector kind
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: of energy, I feel that with you online because I
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: know how hard it can be.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: And I was so upset, and that's a place at
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: the time you were going through it, I was going
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: through it, and I was like.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: And that's why I never even bought it up again,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: because I was just like, this is just too much.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: But I was really angry at the time. Now the
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: emotion's coming up, I'm.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Actually annoyed looking back at myself because I had really
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: good ideas for the future and how I wanted to
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: but anyway, I was just like, yeah, not worth it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: We opened a cafe and we went into partnership with
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: another couple and we invested all the money in. We
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: didn't have the time to run the cafe, but we
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: invested all the money into the cafe and they were
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: to run it, and it was all fifty to fifty
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: split share and one of the owners, who was like
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the main chef and organize that, she literally decided one
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: day She's not going to turn up and go to
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: work anymore. It was too much for her. So she left,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: like all our staff, all these customers everything to run
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: and just never came back. And we were like, you
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: can't just walk out on a business, but we couldn't
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: contact her, and her partner was like, obviously, really apologetic.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: He came in and tried to sort it out and everything,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: but very quickly we had to close it down and
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: we lost a lot of money, and I felt so
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: embarrassed that this had failed. But it wasn't my forte.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I never wanted to work in the cafe. I had
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: my gym, I had other things going on, and I
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: didn't have the skill set to even run a cafe,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: but it was just like so much went into it
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and it was closed down pretty quickly afterwards, and was
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: so disappointed in how that worked out. But it was
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: just so many lessons and that like, if you go
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: into business with someone, you really have to know them
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: so well, know their strengths, know their weaknesses, talk about
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: worst case scenarios, discuss so many finances, and I think
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: we just jumped into it like with too much excitement
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and like, oh fuck, what's the worst that can happen?
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: And it just felt so at the time, but not
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: really knowing them well enough. And obviously she had her
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: own stuff going on, and like, you know, looking back,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: have so much compassion for whatever was happening for her,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: and we want to know what it's like when you're overwhelmed.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: So it's fine, I don't hold any anger or guilt,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: but at the time, it was like fuck. And then
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I had to jump online and explain all of this.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I felt like it just landed back on me because
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: no one looks at who's behind the business. They just
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: look at the face of and it was like, ash,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: she's cleaneding cafe. So I definitely think that was probably
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: my biggest family in business. But when it comes to
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: products and things, most things that I've done have done
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: really really well, and I'm really proud of that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had moments of going Last month was great?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But fuck, look at this month?
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all the time? The first quarter of every year. Yeah,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: well yeah, every time, and every time. Even Steve this year,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: we were talking about it and I'm like, he was
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: stressing about something. We were just discussing something, and I'm like,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: this happens every year. It's always the first quarter. And
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: he's doing this online course and there's thousands of other
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: business owners that do this course and they all talk
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: together in this form and he's like ninety five percent
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of them all in this community chat just talking about
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: how hard it is right now. Every single business owner
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: is struggling and sales alone, and you're coming off the
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: back end of Black Friday and Christmas sales and Boxing
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Day sales, and everyone's gone on holidays and spent all
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: their money, so that jan February is just really quiet,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: but you don't have the money.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Is living too?
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, so high, but you do see it pick up
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: in quarter two, quarter three is amazing. Yeah, in quarter
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: four is like okay, but around that Black Friday is
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: what a lot of business is based, like their whole
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: business around now. They plan it out and that's like
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the biggest one where they make so much money. But yeah,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the first quarter, I feel is just.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Every year, I feel like I like no, and then
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I forgot what this is like.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and last year Steve and I like put different
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: things in place for a hideaway, particularly to help support
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: that harder period. But then it's also I watched Steve
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: and this year he's like come up with all new
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: marketing strategies that have actually done really really well amazing.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: So he's done so good this year ye to tackle
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: that hard a time with just being really innovative and creative,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: and he's just got that marketing brain, which is quite
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: a cool skill set that a lot of business owners
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: don't have because a lot of business owners you're doing
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it all bay yourself at the start. But his strength
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: is like marketing. So yeah, have.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: You ever had a moment of catastrophizing everything and going,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: oh my god, how are we going to pay for
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the mortgage next month?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Definitely?
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I think there's been moments where we've been like oh
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: my gosh, like you know, all happening at once, or
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: even you know, things popping up if they break, like
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: when we.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Had the shop and stuff like that. But I'll tell
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you what, it always fucking works out. Every time I'm like,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: oh my fucking goah blah blah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: It's like I just win this job, all this happens,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: all that happens, and I'm like, Universe has got my back,
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: and now I feel like I don't get you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: so frazzled. I just trust and I go it's gonna
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: be okay, It'll work out.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: And if it doesn't, then manifest, pivot whatever.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: In Yeah. One piece of advice I got from Tony
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Robbins years ago. We did his Platinum course and it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: basically like a small selected few people that you pay
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: a big amount of it and you're part of his
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: groups called Platinum. You go on different trips with him
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: and on one of the trips it was in Fiji
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and we just overnight lost our Facebook page. They took
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: it down. I had over a million people on there.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: We'd spent hundreds of thousand dollars advertising on this page
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: building it up. This was back in the day when
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: the algorithm was just everything. You posted your whole audience
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: source everything. We posted our diet plans and programs sold
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: like crazy. We were absolutely killing it, and overnight Facebook
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: took our page down no explanation. We had staff members,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: we had to let them go because their job's gone overnight.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And that day we actually got to ask Tony one question,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and Steve stood up and said, because we were panicking,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: we were like, our Facebook page has been taken down.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: We've got staff to look after. This is our income.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, so you've got one leg to
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: stand on, and we were like, yeah, that's our business.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: And he was like, never ever have one leg to
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: stand off. You have nine. So if one breaks, if
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: two breaks, you've got seven others. And ever since then,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: that is stuck in my brain and when people say
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: to me, like, oh, how do you keep up with
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: all the platforms, I'm like, because I need nine legs
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to stand on, and I will always invest energy into
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: each of the platforms. And I've always got my toes
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: dipped in other little businesses, like over the years, like
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: I've invested to my friend's businesses, got them started, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: like I feel like I've got lots of different things happening,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: So one falls over, I'm like, cool, I've got other
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: legs to stand on. And it's been one of the
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: best pieces of advices I've ever been given. So if
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: one business isn't doing great, I find another one can
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: help carry it over. Yeah, Like, if one business has
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: got huge whels coming in and it's the first quarter,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: like cool, use of my influencing money to help that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: or support that or whatever, and it just does kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: of intertwines, but it does always work out.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You've both had your fair share of trolls. What's been
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the worst thing that anyone's ever said to you online?
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Worst thing mine was when I just literally had my miscarriage.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I was still bleeding and I was so upset. So
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: when I had my miscarriage, I actually had an ectopic
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: pregnancy where the egg implanted in my tube and they
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: had to remove one of my tubes as well.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: At the same time.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: This is after having Miller, and I was just fucking
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: down in the dumps, and I got a message come
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: through on YouTube and it said you deserve this miscarriage,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Like you piece of shit, blah blah blah, You're not
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: even married yet and trying to have children. When I
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: first read it, I was just like, what the fuck
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: is wrong with people? Like I'm sitting here in my
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: own blood, I've just lost a baby, lost a tube,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: don't even know how my fertility is going to be
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: going forward, and you're here saying such vile things to me.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I was just like, as you stay online and you
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: get used to.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: It, you just go like, wow, I feel so bad,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Like imagine that angry, imagine somebody coming up or somebody
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: saying having miscarriage and how that, like you know, all
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: this stuff's happened, and just being.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Like you deserve that, you piece of shit, Like wow,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: what a sad, sad life to live to be that person.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, I'm trying to think of one particular one,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: but I just think definitely things about my kids. Well,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: they just diagnose my kids online with different things and
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: call them ugly name. And then I was talking to
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Steve the other day. I don't know how it came up.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: We're just talking about the message I got or something,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, yeah, when you used to
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: go away, people used to always message me and say
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: that you're cheating, and they'd see new cheat on me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, what anyone that knows me like that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: It's not in my bones, it's not in my DNA, Like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: it's just not something I would ever do to Steve.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And I was like really, I was like, why didn't
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you come to me? And it's like, because I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: believe it, Like there's nothing to talk to you about.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I don't believe someone online in a fake profile telling
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: me that you're out doing this and that. I was like, Wow,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: that is awful, And what kind of place do you
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: need to be mentally do on potentially ruin a marriage
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: and break up a family for what gossip? What the
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: fuck do you get out of that? Like, I just
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: can't understand or put myself in a place to be
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: understanding of why someone would do that. I was like,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I can't believe you didn't tell me
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: about these. It's like, oh, what's the point. I don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: think you do that to me? So all good? It's like, geez, crazy,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: How do.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You really feel deep down when people say things about
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: your kids?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Just sad? Sad would be the biggest emotion that comes
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: through a little bit of anger. But I just hope
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: that like Taj never reads any of that about him.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Like people they say he's autistic and he's this and that,
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, even if he was autistic, why are
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: you bullying him for that? You know, like, why do
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: you think that's okay to pick out someone's disability or difference. Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: it's just awful, Like it should be a blanket rule
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: that you just well, don't make comments about anyone but children, Yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: like they're children.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: The main thing I get is about Mills left.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I'll get people just going, what's wrong with her lip?
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: What's wrong with her nose? You'll like, just absolutely horrible.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: I don't even want to say it. Yeah, it makes
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: you really upset, really angry. And that's like the one
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: thing where I'm like.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Because you just do anything to protect your kid's emotional
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: peace and keep them happy, and sometimes you feel like
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: you can't protect them from the world. And I know
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: people like, oh, don't put them online then, but this
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: is a part of our lifestyle. This is a part
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: of what we do, and our kids do love being
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: on the cameras sometimes. And I'm also not just going
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: to shelter them from the big bad world, like I
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: want them to build resilience, and to teach them about
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: human psychology and why people do what they do. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: this is just something that we all have to deal
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: with unfortunately, whether that's online or in the workplace or
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: different relationships, they're going to have to navigate so many
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: different things. I don't think he's ever anything, but if
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: they ever come to that point where someone says something
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: to him, I would just use it as a learning
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: opportunity to teach him and support him. And my biggest
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: goal and I heard Gary Ve say this when someone
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: asked him about her fears around having teenage girls on
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: social media. He just said, there's nothing you can do
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: to control the outside world. He's like, my number one
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: goal is a parent and now this is mine too,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: is you build so much confidence within your kids, no
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: matter what age they are, so that when they grow
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: up and someone says something, it doesn't even go on
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: their head because they know who they are. They're so
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: confident someone says, oh, you're dumb and ugly, they'd be
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: like cool, see yeah, Like but if you're not confident,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: like I was not a confident kid or a teenager
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: because of my stepdad always putting me down and tell
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: me how dumb I was, so when someone else would
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: say that, it would just tear me apart. You can
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: imagine if you were built up from such a young age,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: you were smart, you were strong, you're brave that they
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: would just walk out like any situation. They know that,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: so it's not going to shake them. That's such good advice, right,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: build that in a confidence that nothing can shake them.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: And even knowledge like them understanding because like I feel
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: like Milla, she's a very logical person. I f like
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: explaining to her white people do things, yes will help her.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: What's the one thing you would do if you knew
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you could get away with it?
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I'd rob a bank?
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, if everyone's like you do what you want,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: like no repercussions, whatever you want, I'd be like, yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I'm getting like millions, I'll give one to you, one
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: to you.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's a good one.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Is there anything you would do to those people that
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: say horrible things about your kids?
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to like get back in them, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I would like force them to go to fucking therapy.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, have them be
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you for a day.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: You know, what I'd probably, oh, probably enforce a lot
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: more harsher penalties for pedophiles. I think sometimes I don't
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: know why. I think there's a bigger rabbit hole you
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: can go into. I'm not going to go into because
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: it's very controversial, but I think sometimes they're a little
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: bit more protected than what they should be and there's
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: not as much accountability for them. But nothing makes me
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: more angrier than things happening to little kids.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, torturing pedophiles the bank.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I didn't stay torturing, but hey.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: What's the guilty pleasure that goes against everything you believe in?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: You have to be honest here.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Levi Levi Levi that it's all I think about when I
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: think about this. I love pepsi Max. There you go.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I love pepsi Max.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: And I used to be that person that's like, I
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: never drink soft drink. I never drink soft drink. And
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: then I was pregnant with Tala and at my girlfriend
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Da Deane's house and she was also pregnant. I was like, oh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I'm really thirsty, and she was like, oh I have
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: She had cordial and soda water, and I was like, oh,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: she's like, what a Pepsi Max? And I was like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I don't drink soft drinks. She's like, just trust me,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: so refreshing. I was like, I'm really thirsty in and
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: I wanted something flavorsome. Took a sip and I was like, Wow,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: this is delicious, but it's obviously just so bad for you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So I carry a bit of shame around that because
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I'm obviously like a person that values her health. But yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I definitely love a Pepsi Max. And it's not pepsi too,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: it's Pepsi Max. There's a big taste difference. And don't
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: even like coke Cokes gross, but Pepsi Max.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Well, something that I hold a bit of shame around
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: is when I was in my low lows, I was
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: literally drinking like a bottle of red wine at night.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I think that's just so relatable for so many people.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Just to get through when it was the lead up,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: like the two weeks before the wedding, just completely numbing
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: out with alcohol. How long did it last a whole
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: because we had the wedding, so it happened two weeks
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: before the wedding, and that's when we started like doing
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: it to just cope, and then afterwards doing on a honeymoon,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: and then the last day of the honeymoon, I like
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: had a full fuck and mental breakdown.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And we end up coming home earlier.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: I feel like it took a while, and then all
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: of a sudden we were like, no, so I went
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: cold turkey for a bit.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Wow when cold Turkey, Like, let's just stop for a while.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: And yeah, now I still love having my glass of wine,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: but I'm definitely not drinking a bottle every night.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Like that was Monday to Friday in question?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Did it the next day? Were you hungover? Yeah?
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I definitely felt shit, but I didn't care because I
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: was so upset or so hurt.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: You felt shit anyway? Helped it?
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Anyway?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I seeded to, Yeah, I.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Want to feel it. Imagine me drinking a bottle of wine.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I'd probably have to go to hospital and get my stomach.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Pa, I'm doing it Monday to Friday.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: My mom used to do that. She listened to the podcast,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: and she wrote, mom, me sharing, but she doesn't drink anymore.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: She hasn't drank it over a year. But I reckon
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: growing up, I would see her down a bottle of
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: wine or two most nights easily too. Yeah, like easily. Yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I know a couple of people as well, but yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: I have a lot of men too that just chucked
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: down like a six pack every night easily.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I haven't never shared that before.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I reckon.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: It's until I started to do therapy, so once I
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: had the balls of actually like going through all the
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: shit to be like, wow, I need to get help.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: I feel like I would have done it that whole time,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: but I feel like that time my life is just
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: such a blur. You know.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: It was a year and a half ago and it
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: was probably fucking drunk half the time.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: And did you incur drink together a hlgh night.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, both massively coping and I think two because the
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: two weeks out before, like when everything happened to flowing
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: out of my family. It was two weeks to our wedding,
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: and our wedding was at their house, so we had
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: to relocate the entire ventue.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: It was just so much stress.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: So much to organize, so much stress. Yeah.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and then afterwards I.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Was like, have it in my backyard because I've got
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: a massive backyard. I was like, my backyard's huge. We
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: can get a marque, I can organize the tables.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I really parked all my emotions to the
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: side so I could actually get through and have the wedding.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could cope with the day. I enjoyed
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: the day.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just parked everything to the side. And then
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: the honeymoon came up after that and I was like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I want to really enjoy this. So that would have
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: been a couple of weeks after the wedding, So yeah,
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: would have at least had to be I think a
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: solid two or three months.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And the next day when you felt shit, will you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: still thinking I'm looking forward to having a wine tonight.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just crying every day.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go a bit more lighthearted. Now is
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: my last question. Have you ever thought about doing only fans?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: What a question? No, not seriously, but I have joked
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: to Steve, like in a harder time, I did say
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: it them. God, I reckon if I started an only
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: fans I reckon with that many nosy people that I
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: would probably make a million bucks. And twenty four hours
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: He's like, he actually probably would, So I would never
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: actually do it, Like, it's not something I want to share,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: but it's crazy, like, I know quite a few girls
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: on there that are making bank. Oh yeah, making bank.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: It's really really funny.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know this, but there's a
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: bit of an obsession on the internet with my feet,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: and it's been a thing that's been going on probably
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: a few years now.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I actually asked KR if I could look at a feet. Yes,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I was like, do you have a really nice.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: They're just small?
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know anyway, So there's nearly messages on love
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: a Fan, there's a fan pages all like close ups
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: it's killed Kiro's tand line and feet picks, and then
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: there's just comments constantly has to delete them on loveless
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: rows about my feet. I see them on my YouTube. Ever,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: I go, it's always my fucking feet. So I said,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: if I ever needed to, I could do only fans
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: for my feet. Everyone else is zooming up and got
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: the photos online for anyway, It's.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Not something I don't think i'd have the confidence.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: And I don't think I would actually do it only
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: my feet though.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: No, No, what about if everything went bad and you
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: lost all your businesses and Instagram shut down?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: If it's just my feet?
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Fuck yet?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I never wear shoes, so everyone always sees my feet.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: What about selling used underwear?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know that was the thing?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Is that actually actually thing?
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Wow? I've honestly never thought about it, but like, why
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: not as.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Long as you're anonymous, like, as long as I don't
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: know who you are, do.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: They just sniff it? It's fucking weird. Gross. I couldn't
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: think of anything worse. S if someone's.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Dirty, and apparently it's like the dirty the better. So
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: if you've like corn sweating at the gym and that
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: you're getting to pay more money?
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, you know what, Like I don't think i'd
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: ever do it, But fucking good on the girls that
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: are making thanks for selling their dirty underwear. That's fucking amazing.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: If they're making money from doing.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: That, wow, good money from doing it, that's cool.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: The air hostesses get asked for their tights for their stockings.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you go that's a thing. Yeah wow,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: the more you know, oh my gosh, yeah, my mind's
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: like blown.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: That's all my questions. Thank you for opening up.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Wow, thank you, Katie, Thank you so much. And we
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: would love to know did you guys enjoy this episode?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Because I feel like this could be a regular thing.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I loved it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: We just had no idea what you're going to ask.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: I know it's going to pop up. Like I fully
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: cried and obviously been bottling that up for a while.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we love being open books and for you
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: guys to get to know us on a deeper level.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I feel like it really brings the connection even stronger.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we'd love to do this again. Are you
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: up for it, Katie?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I'm up for it. Maybe even the people listening and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: could send you some questions on the Instagram page.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: That's a good idea, good idea, amazing. Thanks for joining us, guys,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Well you next week. Bye.