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Why did everyone decline their invite to the Mayhem Classic? · The Spin Podcast

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  Welcome to the Spin, Tyler, John and the one and only Mr. Bill
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  Grunler. Drinking a coffee right there.
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  I always drink coffee. Even at 4:30 in the afternoon,
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  dude. There's no time not to drink
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  coffee. You guys went home at work?
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  Well, Tyler. Had a drink, I was drinking, I
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  was drinking coffee. When we do the the broadcast and
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  stuff, we'd be back at the the house, whatever and let's get
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  some coffee going. Anybody.
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  Yeah, we. Were at a burger place.
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  OK. We were at a burger place after
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  crash and he was like can I get a coffee?
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  And I was like, it's like 830, yeah.
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  Hey man, I'm not afraid. That caffeine thing does.
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  That caffeine thing doesn't affect me, I don't believe.
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  Comp weekend's a little bit different.
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  We're going to start off with a little bit different original
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  plan. We're going to throw the the
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  2026 risks at the end. But Mr. Bill Grundler.
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  I appreciate. You I have some risks and I
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  don't want to stay until that late.
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  So no, I've got classic coach, that's all.
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  Yeah. Exactly.
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  And so you're actually an affiliate owner, so you can
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  actually add some real value to US versus US just kind of
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  talking we. Provide 0 value already.
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  Talking in a vacuum. But anyway, I, we, I made a
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  comment or asked a question earlier this week asking
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  affiliate owners what are the biggest risks you will face in
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  2026 as a CrossFit affiliate owner?
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  And I got, I got a good number of answers and yeah, it was
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  there. It is kind of fell into 5
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  buckets, 5. Buckets of death, as you will.
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  Of the business, yeah. Rising costs, potential sale,
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  new ownership, lack of communication from HQ.
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  A sport focus and one thing I was not anticipating.
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  GLP ones. Mr. Hiller right there.
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  Skinny Hiller. All real pictures right there.
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  Yeah, exactly. I guess first question for you,
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  Bill, were you taking, were you surprised by any of these or
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  were they kind of just expected like, Oh yeah, that's kind of
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  what I was thinking. I think a lot of them were this,
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  I think when people say the risks and the, the, the, the
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  list that people gave are the the buckets that you put them in
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  for the most part. Buckets of death.
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  The five buckets of death, they are complaints that people have
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  had all the time, like I don't. I don't think that they're
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  really new necessarily. I will agree with the fact that
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  rising costs is something that as a gym owner, like I, I have
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  to think about that all the time.
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  Like there is as a CrossFit affiliate owner, your gym
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  membership was always more expensive than the 24 Hour
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  Fitness down the road. You know, they had their $19.00
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  locked in for life. Whatever thing or $15 or even if
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  it's $45.00, whatever, like it, it sounds so much lower than
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  $150.00 a 190 dollars, $200. And not that I don't think that
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  a CrossFit affiliate is worth that.
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  I do think it's worth that for. And I, and I'm not even talking
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  about for the equipment, I'm talking about for the actual
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  coaching that you get out of it and you have someone actually
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  coaching you. But it gets difficult to get
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  people to understand what they're getting for that value.
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  You know, like if you are, if you are doing a one-on-one
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  training with someone, even in a, even in a crappy Globo gym,
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  you're going to be paying 4550 sixty, $7080 for that session
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  one time. The hour.
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  Right, but for the hour, if you look at what a CrossFit, a a
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  good CrossFit affiliate, I mean, I'm not going to say that every
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  CrossFit affiliate is great because they aren't just like
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  every gym isn't great, just like every doctor isn't great.
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  But if you have a good affiliate and you have a, you have good
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  coaches in your affiliate, you're going to get, you're
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  going to get training that will equal what that ends up being.
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  So if you figure the amount of time you're looking at the
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  program that you're getting, you're looking at the rah rah
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  that you're getting, you're looking at the, the coaching
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  cues that you're getting. You're looking at the
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  modifications that you're getting specific to you and your
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  issues that day that injuries, the pregnancy, the I'm tired,
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  the I have a race coming up. Whatever The thing is, the, the
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  amount of value that you get out of that I think is worth it.
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  But you have to somehow make that known to people because
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  $200 sounds like a lot of money next to $45.
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  And I think what, what a lot of affiliate owners don't want to
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  do. And I think a lot, I think a lot
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  of them shy away from a lot of the things that that you're
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  supposed to embrace, which is let me teach you why this is
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  important. What about it's the value per
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  dollar, right? If you, if you do a personal
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  training coach and it's like, I don't know, $9 per hour or
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  whatever it is, like, yeah, you're seeing them, but you're
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  going to, you're going to cap it at like maybe 2 a week.
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  And then you, you get to the end of the month and it's like, OK,
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  you only came in twice a week for a month.
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  You paid an exorbitant amount and then you know you screwed it
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  up the rest of the time and they don't really, really know you as
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  an athlete, right? Versus, OK, let's go on the high
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  end of $200 a month. Like that coach knows you.
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  All the coaches there know you. Sorry, I just wanted to
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  interject. No, no, I agree.
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  So I, I think that that will always be something cuz I know
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  like with myself when I first started paying.
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  So San Luis Obispo in our county is, that's where the college is.
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  If you look at the way the county is, this is where the
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  expensive stuff in the county is.
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  If I went to the north part of the county, the South part of
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  the county, my rent would be almost half of what I'm paying
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  right now. When we started, we had a 1000
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  square foot spot and I think we paid, I think we paid $1800 for
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  it a month. Then we moved to a almost 3000
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  square foot spot and we were paying 2500 and then the spot
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  that we're in now. And granted it increases every
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  single year because that's what the rent does.
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  And this is what's really hard. Everyone who pays their monthly
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  fee, whatever that is, they're like, why does it keep going up?
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  Well, because my rent still keeps going up.
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  You know, like shit still costs money And like, if, if you know,
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  I it's going to come out of some bucket, right, more buckets of
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  death and I, I can't have it be where it's coming out of my
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  bucket because if I can't do it or the gym can't do it, then the
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  doors don't come open. So.
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  You got to buy that nice car too.
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  There are very few gym owners that have really nice cars
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  unless that's the only. Unless they live in the really
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  nice. Car, that's what they have.
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  You know, that's that's what they paid.
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  But, but like right now, like I pay $7500 a month for a 5000
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  square foot spot monthly. Yeah, you know, and, and so then
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  all of a sudden you're like, OK, let me reverse engineer that.
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  OK, well, how many members do I need to make it to where I can
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  pay for the place? I can pay for the utilities, I
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  can pay for the coaches, I can pay for whatever.
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  I don't think that's the biggest issue though.
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  I don't I I personally wouldn't say that.
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  That's the biggest issue really. Yeah.
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  Well, I mean, I will stick on the cost side of things, but I
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  think the revenue side, I was talking about this with my wife
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  this weekend. Like I don't think they're the
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  cost of a membership has gone up in proportion to what you just
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  said, Bill. I don't think so either.
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  Like 10-15 years ago the gyms, the high end gyms were 150 in in
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  Nashville. Now they're like 200 generally
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  like 180 for unlimited around most places.
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  Like that is not a big increase. And you just talked about, I'm
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  sure, yes, you have more square footage, but per square foot
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  it's gone up way more than absolutely, you know.
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  But that's what I mean, because like if 150, OK, I can in my
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  mind as a member, as a client, OK, I can kind of wrap my head
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  around that $200, OK, there better be a reason why I'm
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  paying that. The reason can't be, well, our
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  rent went up. Like that's not a reason.
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  There's got to be a perceived value of that, right?
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  If your spouse goes, your kid goes.
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  Next thing you know, you're dropping five $600 a month on a
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  on the memberships. I think this is what I think the
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  biggest risk is for 2026 actually, I would say it's it's
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  been happening, but it will, I think it will continue is
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  coaches, not the person that owns the gym, not the person
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  that like I love CrossFit and I want to be here because that's
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  great. You'll have your two people,
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  they can do all the stuff. But guess what?
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  There's a lot of classes that need to be coached and at some
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  point did someone get shot? Yeah, Dang, Abby's Dang, she's.
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  Training. We had a shoot, huh?
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  So so we have crash mats that block her in like her little
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  area. She's busted out.
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  And that's exactly what that was.
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  She's getting where she can like stand and and like, press on
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  things and she's learning how to knock that crash path down.
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  That's that's what just happened.
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  But to get someone to want to be a coach like the the people that
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  are really good coaches, they coach because they love to
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  coach. They're not there for the money,
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  like if they can, if they don't have another job, like that's
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  what that they love to do that you know, like even like, you
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  know, John does his coaching thing.
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  He's got his, he's got his personal clients, he's got his
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  JY barbell stuff. Those are the supplements for
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  him being at the gym because you can't like it's really hard for
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  someone to be a just a gym trainer and I coach classes at
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  the gym and think you're going to be having a full time, at
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  least in my area, a full time like salary off that.
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  Yeah, I I would have another job if it was just the gym, right?
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  I'd have to have another job. You'd have to and so now that
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  becomes like it. It's, it's hard to make it
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  lucrative enough to get coaches to want to come in and do it.
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  I can get people to cover classes cool like every once in
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  awhile but like. That has not gone up in
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  proportion either. I don't know.
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  So like with what? Do what do people get paid
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  $15.20 dollars, maybe $25? Yeah, like they were doing that.
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  They were doing that back in 2010.
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  Man, right. The way the square footage and
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  stuff has gone up like a dollar per square foot, it it'd be like
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  $50.00 an hour to make it worth it, right?
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  For for you to just be like, I'm just a CrossFit coach, Yeah.
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  Yeah, So, you know, I, I'm always looking for coaches
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  around here. But what you end up having to do
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  is you have to you, you are hoping that there's someone that
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  really loves CrossFit. And I just love the gym and I
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  want to be there and I want to help people too.
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  And I want to because it will, it will literally have to be a
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  labor of love. It has to be because you can't
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  pay them enough to do it. And then all of a sudden, just
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  like John said, there's going to be the other job that will be
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  priority. It's like, hey, I need you to
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  coach on this. Yeah, I can't do that shit.
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  OK, I guess I'm going because I'm doing the 5:30 AM class.
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  OK, All right, got it. You know, And that's I think
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  that will be that is I think that is the hardest thing
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  getting I think. It's gotten worse over the
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  years, yeah. Or harder over the years.
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  Yeah. And I think it has because what
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  I saw earlier kind of getting into this, into this stage where
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  we are is people wanted to coach.
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  So what did they do? They started coaching at all the
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  gyms. And I don't mean all the
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  CrossFit gyms. They went to all the gyms.
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  Yeah, pool boy coaches at F-45. Exactly.
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  Exactly. Yeah, they pay them more.
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  Trader. Probably they do probably, but I
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  mean and then like then I have a hard time with that because it's
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  like I want. You to be our thing.
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  Yeah, man, like I, I am huge when it comes to loyalty.
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  I I wouldn't be surprised too, just I.
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  Wouldn't be surprised if pool boys like yeah I train at
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  CrossFit, whatever, like. I mean.
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  Maybe. Maybe coaching, maybe.
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  Who knows. I doubt it, but maybe.
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  I'm with you, Bill, though. Like, like I have gotten offers
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  to go to, to coach at other gyms just just from people who like
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  the sport and stuff and they know I'm in the area and I'm
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  like, I got my people. Like these are my people, you
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  know, like I don't, I don't, I wouldn't like it either.
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  And I don't even own an affiliate, at least like just me
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  and principal. I wouldn't.
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  I wouldn't like it. Yeah, I think, I think that that
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  is that will be the thing that is the hardest because what you
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  need that person to be able to do, you can't pay them enough to
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  be able to do it. You gotta, they, they have to
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  have the knowledge, OK, if you, if you want to have good coaches
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  in your gym, I'll say this, if you, you want them to have the
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  knowledge and, and the understanding of what it is that
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  they're doing and they care about.
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  I mean, it's customer service base first.
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  You want them to have a great time, You want them to enjoy
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  their time. You want them to want to come
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  back. You want them to feel like
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  they're, you know, improving and, and that this is mattering,
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  that they're putting this money out, that they're getting their
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  thing for that. But then underneath that high
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  fives and everyone having a good time, how can I make sure that
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  they're getting the most out of it?
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  Where the F40 fives, the orange theories, the boot camps, they
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  don't care about how you're moving.
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  It's. The they don't run.
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  They don't care. Everyone's getting high fives
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  now. That's fine, because if you're
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  not doing anything, you come out and you start working out, Sure,
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  you're going to look great. You will look better than you
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  did no matter what the workout is.
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  But you, you know, you want the coach to, yeah, let's have a
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  good time. Let me give you a little
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  breadcrumb of something cool here.
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  Like, I love when I can, like, someone's doing something.
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  You can give one little cue and all of a sudden that whole
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  movement changes and they're like, damn, that was awesome.
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  No one ever said that before. Or the first the first bar
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  muscle UPS, always amazing. Yeah.
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  I mean, all of those big things are huge and you're not going to
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  have that in those other places because they don't push that.
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  Those are the places and I, I will go toe to toe with anyone
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  that says, you know, if they were going to do CrossFit again,
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  they should take all the Olympic lifting barbells stuff out.
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  They should take all the high skilled gymnastic out.
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  And the next question would be why?
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  And their reason would be because people don't want to do
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  it. It's too hard for them.
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  They're afraid that they're going to have a bad experience
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  that they do that, which that's not the case though.
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  All of those things are so that you can set the bar just above
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  the out the reach of whatever athlete you're that you're
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  talking about. It may be ring muscle UPS on the
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  board that day. And it's really funny cuz I know
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  there are a lot of cross the gyms that do not program or ring
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  muscle UPS unless they are the competitive place.
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  But you have ring muscle UPS, you have banded ring muscle UPS.
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  You have transitions from the ground, You have bar muscle UPS.
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  You can do, you can do banded or jumpy bar muscles.
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  You can do, you know, pull ups and then and then dips.
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  You get, there are so many things you can do.
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  They give the, you know, the gymnastic pulling part for that
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  person at their level. Just set a range of what they
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  can do. That's how you get people
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  better. Because otherwise they'll be in
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  it for three months, they'll plateau, they'll get bored,
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  nothing will change and then they're out.
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  And we don't want that. The way we stop that plateau as
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  we push that bar up. That's why all of those things
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  are important. Plus there's a lot of
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  neurological changes that you get and, you know, having older
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  people feeling like they're back on the playground again and, and
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  feeling young again and the explosive power that you get
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  with the Olympic lifts. I mean, why do they do those in
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  sports? Because of explosive power.
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  And you will use it. You will the.
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  In ways you don't you don't think about, but like the way
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  you move in a snatch, like it could be the difference in
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  picking up your child. I know that's people wanted like
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  a dead lift for that, but to like pick them up and throw and
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  like throw them up. That is kind of a snatch if
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  we're if we're going fast enough.
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  My do I have I have Abbott. McGrady knows what a snatch is,
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  Bill, is all I'm trying to say. Hell yes.
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  And she should and she should. My, my, my all time favorite
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  story that I have with my oldest daughter when she was like, I
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  think she was like 5-6 years old, she was doing gymnastics
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  and she had to go over and get some pad to bring over.
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  And it's this like weird, long, kind of thin look, kind of like
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  a trapezoid kind of shape. And she couldn't quite grab it
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  to pick it up to figure out how to do it, but she could get her
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  arms on either side of it. And this was by far.
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  And I, I was, and this was probably 22,009 2010 maybe right
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  around there. Like early she grabbed that
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  thing, couldn't figure out how to get it.
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  And then without anyone saying anything or her having any idea
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  on what the hell a snatch looks like, she goes hook and whipped
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  it up over her head and walked it over to the teacher and put
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  it down. And I stood up like the they
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  have this little parent platform area.
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  I stood up and I'm like, yes, yes, did you see that?
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  That was a snatch right there. No, no, no.
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  You don't know what that is, No. I'm not talking about, no, I'm
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  not, not you, ma'am, sit down. I'm not talking about you, not
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  you. It was, it was an innate thing,
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  and that's one of the things that Greg always talked about,
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  where the movements that we do are built into your
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  functionality. She didn't know how to do that,
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  but her body kicked right into core to extremity movement with
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  power to get that thing over her head.
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  It was fucking fantastic. One of the one of the things
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  that like that you're hitting on about the coaches that I've
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  always thought about is we have, I think we have an increasing
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  problem selling level twos, level threes in the level 4 that
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  may or may not exist. No one knows is like if you
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  can't get paid to be a coach like you kind of just like,
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  well, why would I want to continue my progression unless
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  it's like the labor of love thing or I really just want to
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  know all of this stuff. Like the easiest way to sell
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  those is like, well, all the level 2 coaches are getting paid
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  75 K. All the Level 3 coaches are
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  getting paid 125 K, you know what I mean?
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  And then it's like, OK, I'm going to level up, of course.
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  And. That would be the only reason to
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  do that. Right.
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  And so like that's been the one of the number one issues, one of
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  the number one, one of the top issues that I thought CrossFit
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  should have spent a lot of time solving over the past few years
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  is like how do we rate? Like how do we create a
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  situation, an environment in which coaches are paid more and
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  stay around longer? I, I just, I just don't think
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  that even if you, there's no way to, for lack of a better word,
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  enforce that. No, you can't, because it's it.
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  It ends up being only if the gym decides to recognize you as
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  that. And give you the, the, the
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  amount of money for that. You know what I mean?
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  Like that's the only way to make that happen.
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  And that's completely internal. Other than that, it's all what
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  do you want to be? And I'll tell you what, man,
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  I've seen, I've seen level 1 coaches that are great coaches.
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  I've seen Level 3 coaches that are not great coaches.
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  They know the book stuff, they know all the information and the
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  reason most of the time, if they're not a good coach at
• 20:34
  level and I'm not, this is not, this is not a shot on the levels
• 20:36
  at all. I, I the Level 3 is an amazing
• 20:39
  course and, and, and the ones that that have to study to get
• 20:42
  to that stuff, they get a lot of information.
• 20:44
  It's knowledge. It's knowledge, but it's not
• 20:47
  it's. It isn't always.
• 20:49
  Practice. Applied knowledge.
• 20:51
  And that's the problem when you get someone that has a lot of
• 20:53
  information and they want to show you how good they are, you
• 20:57
  end up getting just verbal diarrhea, right?
• 20:59
  All over them to talk about, you know, femur lengths and angles
• 21:03
  and, you know, insertion points and this particular muscle and
• 21:06
  that particular muscle. And the person's like where,
• 21:09
  where's the bathroom again? Because like, I'm not here for
• 21:13
  anatomy Physiology class, you know, I just want to, I want to
• 21:16
  get a sweat on. I want to lose some weight, man.
• 21:17
  Like can you help me out? So it's having all of that
• 21:20
  knowledge and then and then truncating it down to laser
• 21:24
  focus so that this person gets because they want these things
• 21:27
  and that person gets because they want these things.
• 21:29
  And that's going back to kind of what you were talking about,
• 21:31
  John, is like you knowing your people to where you can give
• 21:36
  them what they want, the product that they want.
• 21:38
  Here's the here's the the workout of the day.
• 21:41
  Here's the the, the seven course meal, the meal of the day.
• 21:47
  You're going to get this one 'cause you're gluten intolerant.
• 21:49
  You're going to get this one 'cause you don't like milk, and
• 21:51
  you're going to get this one 'cause you like protein.
• 21:53
  Only you're so like, everyone's getting their version of that.
• 21:55
  But it takes the coach that has all this knowledge to be able to
• 22:00
  do that. Well, now when you have someone
• 22:02
  that can do that, yeah, I think that the value that, that, that
• 22:05
  that client is getting is well worth what they're paying.
• 22:09
  But you have to have like to get that person like that's, it's
• 22:12
  hard. Like right now, like I'm, I'm
• 22:15
  praying that I could find someone to cover some classes.
• 22:18
  Like that's where I am and I, I can put it out.
• 22:21
  I can put it to the university, I can put and I cannot get any.
• 22:25
  It's hard, way harder than it seems.
• 22:27
  Yeah. I have a question.
• 22:28
  I have a question. Go ahead, Tyler.
• 22:29
  I'll never forget how I found CrossFit Maximus.
• 22:33
  I was training at, at UK in their rec center.
• 22:36
  And I'll never forget the poster.
• 22:38
  It was like this Superman that was a trainer basically.
• 22:44
  And it was like calling all, you know, coaches out there, we
• 22:47
  want, you know, internship at CrossFit Maximus.
• 22:50
  And it was like I went, I went through the, through the, the
• 22:55
  kinesiology school there at UK and I took down all the posters
• 23:00
  because I didn't want anybody else to apply to that.
• 23:04
  That's amazing. You got Superman into it, dude.
• 23:07
  Look at. You that's.
• 23:08
  So awesome. So I, I'm curious, Bill, do you
• 23:13
  think the ultimate I, I, I'm curious if you think a cheaper
• 23:18
  option, but also more expensive at the same tunnel name.
• 23:23
  Like you'll understand what I'm saying here in a minute, but.
• 23:25
  I'm waiting because so far I don't, right?
• 23:28
  Now, because you said it's not enough for the coaches to be
• 23:31
  interested. So if I think if it's $50.00 an
• 23:34
  hour and people are back to where they were in 2014 where
• 23:38
  $25.00 an hour, you could, you could, you could do that.
• 23:41
  Like you could be by yourself and make a living just fine.
• 23:47
  It would have to raise up to that.
• 23:49
  Do you think the ultimate cheaper option would be to be on
• 23:53
  a, a salary, but a smaller salary?
• 23:57
  Because like at, at my gym, I'm coaching 25 to $30 a week.
• 24:00
  We've talked about this every week, right on top of the
• 24:04
  one-on-one stuff like the times that I'm at the gym is probably
• 24:08
  closer to 40 to 50 and like just me at the gym, but not like
• 24:13
  actually coaching, right? But I I end up coaching just by
• 24:18
  being there because you're the main right, you're the head
• 24:22
  coach, right And then, but I'm on I'm on salary, right?
• 24:26
  And it's, it's, it doesn't for the owners.
• 24:31
  It would be cheaper to have the hourly person, but I like
• 24:37
  anytime there's holidays, anytime there's anybody that
• 24:40
  takes it like I take all that like it's, it's there is no,
• 24:43
  they don't have the issue that you have, but it it comes, but
• 24:48
  it comes at a premium of that salary.
• 24:50
  Does that make sense? Yeah, No, no, I, I hear you.
• 24:53
  I, I, I've played with that too. I've had I've had coaches on
• 24:57
  salary. But I'm I'm asking, do you think
• 24:59
  that's that's not that doesn't work in the long run or or it
• 25:04
  could work when the right situation.
• 25:06
  I'm I'm just. I, I, I would say that I would
• 25:10
  say in all, in all reality, any situation can work.
• 25:15
  It totally depends. Like that's what's kind of great
• 25:17
  about CrossFit and Philly gyms is the situation.
• 25:20
  The variables are so different that you could make something
• 25:24
  totally work in one gym that there is has no no chance in
• 25:27
  another gym. I got you.
• 25:29
  I do think that a salaried position can work.
• 25:36
  What I've seen with many people that get into salaried positions
• 25:40
  is they will get used a lot more and that person starts talking
• 25:45
  about the burnout game and I have a really hard time with
• 25:48
  that conversation and it's it's coming from.
• 25:51
  I I I hear you. I, I and I, for all of those
• 25:55
  coaches out there that say that they want to be a coach and that
• 26:00
  they are a coach and they're like, you know, after three
• 26:03
  classes, I just. It's more patience than you
• 26:05
  think, yeah. Yeah, but I'm I'm so, I'm so
• 26:08
  emotionally and I'm just drained.
• 26:10
  I'm so drained. That's.
• 26:10
  Because you're in California, Bill.
• 26:12
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. No, no, no.
• 26:15
  You know what it is, I it's not that.
• 26:17
  What it is is I come from a like my parents are both teachers and
• 26:22
  teachers teach classes all day. 8 hours a day. 8 hours a day
• 26:27
  with kids, with high school kids, with junior high kids,
• 26:29
  whatever. And if you are a teacher slash
• 26:33
  coach type of a person, you like doing that stuff like I, I, I
• 26:39
  would, I would get into these discussions with people that
• 26:40
  I've had in the past and they're like, it's just, you know, it's
• 26:42
  just so hard. After three classes, I'm just
• 26:44
  I'm so drained and I'm like drained by what?
• 26:47
  Oh, we get to listen to good music.
• 26:49
  You're high fiving, you're whoo yeah, isn't this going on over
• 26:51
  here? And so and so you hear drama of
• 26:53
  this happening over here and these things you're talking
• 26:56
  about these all the things that are going on here.
• 26:57
  You get to help this person out that day.
• 26:59
  And this person got their first pull up that they've ever got in
• 27:02
  their whole life and everything is great and high 5 and, you
• 27:04
  know, fist bumping all over the place.
• 27:06
  And then you get to do it all over again.
• 27:07
  Like what? What was hard?
• 27:09
  You're getting paid for it, yeah.
• 27:12
  You get, you're getting paid to hang out with people.
• 27:14
  It's it's I just, I don't, I don't, you know, put it on me.
• 27:19
  I don't understand it because I don't have that.
• 27:23
  That's not that's not built into me.
• 27:24
  Like I'm, I'm a coach, I'm a teacher.
• 27:26
  I've always been that guy, even when I was in fire, like that
• 27:29
  was what I do. So I enjoy doing that.
• 27:32
  So it's not hard for me to do it.
• 27:34
  A lot of people that gets that get put on salary.
• 27:37
  Kind of like with you, John, it's like holidays.
• 27:39
  You're taking it all the things, the days off, you're take it,
• 27:41
  you're in there, you're in there.
• 27:43
  People want the job because they see the money and then all of a
• 27:47
  sudden they get burned out in the and then all of a sudden
• 27:49
  what they are it what they start giving is less and less and less
• 27:52
  and less and less. Not you, but people that like
• 27:55
  are not like this is what I do. I love to do this.
• 27:59
  What do you think the percentage is on that?
• 28:00
  Because you, you, I, you are obvious have experience with it.
• 28:05
  All I know is me. Right, right, right.
• 28:07
  Yeah. I bet, I bet it's 20% of people
• 28:10
  who want to be coaches are actually people who should be
• 28:13
  coaches. I'm just, I wonder what that
• 28:19
  burnout rate is because I don't resonate with that.
• 28:24
  I, I, I would say, I would say, I think it's, that's not a bad
• 28:31
  number. That's not a bad number.
• 28:33
  Maybe, maybe a little bit higher.
• 28:37
  That's based on Bill's criteria. Like if you're going to coach
• 28:43
  all day long because it is a rare person that wants to do
• 28:46
  that and it doesn't make you a bad person.
• 28:49
  If you just want to coach two classes a day just means that
• 28:51
  you're not built like you're not a lifetime coach, you're not a
• 28:56
  full time coach and that's OK. Yeah, I I think that the
• 29:00
  difficulty with salary is you're going to get paid regardless of
• 29:05
  what your output is in the short term.
• 29:08
  Right. And that's.
• 29:09
  Paul, I'm getting paid so then you I'm not, I'm not getting
• 29:11
  anything. I'm not getting their their
• 29:13
  mindset is I'm not getting anything incremental for staying
• 29:16
  till 6:00 at night instead of leaving at 4.
• 29:20
  I'm just going to go through the motions this last hour because
• 29:23
  I'm tired. And I'm at the gym, so that
• 29:25
  you're paying me to be at the gym.
• 29:26
  Yeah. You know, I I'm man, unless you
• 29:29
  have some really specific this, this was always hard because I
• 29:35
  like what what do you actually expecting?
• 29:39
  Well, I expect you to, you know, give to the client and push them
• 29:42
  and help them to do. And it's like, yeah, all that
• 29:44
  sounds great. And then go what?
• 29:45
  I I felt like I was, it's like, all right, well, they're all
• 29:49
  they're all fluff words, you know, I mean, like, it has to be
• 29:51
  very specific. And it's not that I wouldn't say
• 29:56
  that I am over, over giving or, or giving more than what I'm
• 30:04
  supposed to give. I'm giving what I give because
• 30:07
  this is what I do. And like, that's like that's
• 30:10
  kind of the difference. And, and I mean, I think I think
• 30:12
  people will find out right away, you know, who coaches should be
• 30:15
  and who coaches shouldn't be. I know that with a lot of, with
• 30:19
  a lot of smaller gyms, especially smaller CrossFit
• 30:21
  gyms, it ends up being that the owner, because they love it.
• 30:26
  They're there, they got their other job and they're doing this
• 30:29
  too. And it can, it can like that can
• 30:33
  burn you out. Not the fact that it's coaching,
• 30:35
  but just you're running from one thing to AM to PM like non-stop.
• 30:41
  And, and you know, sometimes, like I coach most of the classes
• 30:45
  here and like over Christmas and New Year's and stuff like that,
• 30:48
  they're like, Hey, so are we going to be open the day after
• 30:50
  whatever. And I go, no, yeah, but I'm off
• 30:53
  work that day. And I go, yeah, I want to be off
• 30:56
  work too, you know. So I mean, like there are days
• 30:58
  like that where it's like, look, this isn't, I'm not trying to
• 31:02
  shorten up, you know, your, your, the, the value of your, of
• 31:07
  your membership here. But this is the holiday.
• 31:10
  And if you want me to be able to give you the good stuff, like, I
• 31:14
  mean, we have our, our app, like there's workouts on there every
• 31:17
  day that you can do workouts at home and once without equipment.
• 31:22
  And hey, you're all on there. It's just, I'm not going to be
• 31:25
  there today. Like it'll be all right, you'll
• 31:27
  be fine, you know. But I, I think, I think that it
• 31:30
  is hard. And Brian that that was, I think
• 31:33
  that that's right. People will work.
• 31:36
  Generally speaking, it's not everybody, but people will work
• 31:40
  to the minimum that they need to.
• 31:43
  And if you put people on salary, that is what that's where they
• 31:46
  will go. Well if you do that then get the
• 31:49
  fuck out because I don't want. You to dim Seth, he has one of
• 31:53
  us affiliate these days. Try finding people on the North
• 31:56
  Shore of Oahu to coach right. I've heard it's even harder to
• 32:00
  find people on Lahaina but. Bill, do do you find it?
• 32:05
  Do you find it hard to coach after, after we go do our thing?
• 32:11
  Because every single competition and like my, my, my people, my
• 32:17
  one-on-one state, they know that it's, it's coming.
• 32:20
  Like I have about one or two days where I'm just really down
• 32:27
  and, and I and I don't know why. I'm just like after Syndicate,
• 32:31
  after Norcal, 'cause I'm just wired 24/7 there and I'm, you
• 32:38
  know, we're commentating, but I'm also doing math the whole
• 32:41
  time. Like I'm doing, I'm doing like,
• 32:44
  like, I mean, you, you know this, Phil, you know this like,
• 32:47
  like, like. You're writing down splits.
• 32:49
  You are. You're writing down splits.
• 32:50
  You are. You're writing stuff down.
• 32:51
  But. I'm figuring out this means
• 32:52
  this, this means that this means that like, everybody's been
• 32:56
  asking me questions and I have to have the answers to them.
• 32:59
  Sometimes it's too. Early.
• 33:00
  It's just, I'm just so wired and I've got no problem being wired
• 33:05
  none. But the second I get home, it
• 33:08
  shuts, it shuts down and I still have to coach right?
• 33:11
  And there's like one or two days where I'm like, all right, warm
• 33:16
  up and then I'm fine and then I'm fine.
• 33:23
  But I those one or two days, man, it, it's it, it hits me.
• 33:28
  I, I'll say that like I'm, I'm actually pretty good when it
• 33:33
  comes to that. Like when I'm away, you know,
• 33:36
  the, the gym is doing what the gym does.
• 33:38
  It's doing its thing and I can slot right back in because it's
• 33:41
  just, it's just my comfort spot, man.
• 33:44
  It's, it's easy. And because I'm, I, I don't
• 33:48
  think that I'm like ha ha ho, like up and down, up and down
• 33:51
  like that. Like I, I have my, I have my
• 33:54
  demeanor, I have my, my tempo that I, that I'll coach at and I
• 34:00
  just kind of hop right in and, and actually like for me, like
• 34:03
  I'll start, you know, talking to everyone right away about like,
• 34:07
  you know, what was happening this week or who did this or,
• 34:09
  you know, looking on PR, the PR board to see if everyone did.
• 34:12
  And I like, I just kind of slot right back in like I, I guess my
• 34:16
  aunts would be like, no, I've never had an issue with that
• 34:17
  like. There, you're way more even
• 34:19
  keeled than I am, I feel. Like 100% there, 100% there
• 34:24
  dude. Less math on the weekends.
• 34:25
  I don't do any math. I just, you know, I, I just do
• 34:28
  the alphabet. I would say the main difference
• 34:31
  being with you 2 like in a broadcast situation, John, like
• 34:34
  your commentating style is, is a lot more emotional than Bill's.
• 34:37
  Bill's is like he, but you're like that the entire
• 34:40
  competition. You are just straight down the
• 34:42
  middle of the whole time, but I. Like to think that it's up a
• 34:45
  little bit. I don't want to see that.
• 34:47
  Yeah, no, I'm. Keeping everything on it even
• 34:51
  keel cuz I think I get excited but I do I can be this right
• 34:54
  here and I got all kinds of energy and this is great and
• 34:57
  this to me right now is even keel I'm I'm great, but y'all
• 35:00
  was like wow that. Right.
• 35:02
  That's what I'm talking about. No, no, no, no.
• 35:04
  No. Yeah.
• 35:07
  No, he's younger than I am. You know, he's a little bit,
• 35:10
  he's a little bit more emotional than that.
• 35:11
  I'm just I'm I'm the old, I have the group.
• 35:15
  I'm very stoic. I.
• 35:16
  I think that's why it works. I agree.
• 35:18
  I agree with that. Dude this this comment if you
• 35:21
  only knew that's that's not near enough like.
• 35:26
  Like oh, I just need this right here.
• 35:28
  This is all I need and I'm good. On A on a broadcast, 2C fours is
• 35:33
  done by 10 AM. Yes, yes.
• 35:38
  You guys go through more of that.
• 35:39
  Stuff like that to me is like, how are your hearts not beating
• 35:42
  out of your chest? Dude, I thought I was going to.
• 35:44
  I drank 60 fours one day. I, I I.
• 35:47
  Was like. And it was like 8:00, it was 8,
• 35:50
  it was 8:00 PM. And I'm like, I don't need this.
• 35:54
  But Stephon wanted to do a podcast and I know those are
• 35:57
  going to go for three hours, right?
• 35:59
  And Taylor's there and I, I can't, I don't want to be, I
• 36:01
  need to be up with that. Cause yeah, I won't have the
• 36:04
  patience for it if I'm not, if I'm not ready, right?
• 36:09
  And I'm like, I'm just going to do it.
• 36:11
  F it. I don't care.
• 36:12
  And then, and then, and then I just drink that one at 8:00 PM
• 36:14
  and then I'll still just sleep like a rock at 10:30 and then
• 36:18
  just go on another day. There you go.
• 36:21
  See. Go right in.
• 36:24
  So I think getting to the risks, when you think about, I think a
• 36:30
  lot of these had an undertone of HQ.
• 36:36
  Yeah, it. Needs to save me.
• 36:38
  Yeah, yeah, it always does. And I this might be that.
• 36:42
  I'm a old school affiliate. Oh, hold on.
• 36:46
  I might be that too. I might be that too.
• 36:49
  I mean, I'm not going to lie. We found out that we're number
• 36:51
  69, oldest gym in the world. That's so cool.
• 36:54
  That's it. Is really cool.
• 36:56
  I had no idea when we first affiliated the the mantra was,
• 37:03
  OK, cool, here's your affiliate, you have your level 1 go and do
• 37:07
  great things. Cool.
• 37:11
  OK, all right, I guess we're off here.
• 37:12
  We go and we go and do our thing.
• 37:14
  And so everyone would do their version of CrossFit.
• 37:17
  They would they would have their memberships, they would do have
• 37:20
  their, their, their communities, they would have their own
• 37:23
  version of the culture. You know, however, they did it
• 37:26
  within their box with the only thing that we wanted from them
• 37:31
  was like, hey, man, and, and this and we didn't really know
• 37:34
  much about it, but it was like, hey, just protect us.
• 37:37
  Let everyone else know that we're the shit and they're not
• 37:40
  like that's all we wanted. I didn't need a tool kit.
• 37:43
  I didn't need to have all of these other things.
• 37:45
  Not going to say that everyone that hopped in as an affiliate
• 37:47
  owner, myself included, knew a damn thing about business.
• 37:51
  I didn't know anything about business.
• 37:53
  Nothing at all. Like, thank God I was running.
• 37:56
  I was a fire captain and I had that it was me, my engineer and
• 38:00
  my firefighter that we started the gym and thank God we all had
• 38:04
  money already because if we didn't, we're like business
• 38:07
  plan. What the hell is a business
• 38:08
  plan? I don't I don't know.
• 38:12
  Let's go put out a fire. OK, cool.
• 38:13
  Sounds great. That's a great place to work
• 38:15
  out. That was how it that's how it
• 38:16
  was. So I can see having things like
• 38:19
  that to help. But I all of the, all of the
• 38:22
  complaining and this is going on for years.
• 38:24
  This isn't anything new. HQ should do this for us.
• 38:28
  HQ should do that for us. And it's like, why?
• 38:31
  Why should they do that for you? Unless you want to be part of an
• 38:34
  affiliate model or I mean a franchise model.
• 38:37
  What do you want them to do? And all the stuff about needing
• 38:42
  to know about who is buying and who is selling and who is doing.
• 38:48
  I mean, unless it really comes down to what it's gonna do with
• 38:51
  inside your four walls, what does it really matter?
• 38:54
  It really doesn't matter that much.
• 38:57
  I mean, unless all of a sudden they're gonna be like the stuff
• 39:00
  you, you know, about the increase of the increase of the,
• 39:03
  the affiliate fees, like to $10,000 or something like that.
• 39:08
  It's like, OK, all right, now I understand that like things go
• 39:12
  up, but why? Just because you think you can
• 39:16
  the ID, the ID bill, yeah, rent that Internet rent totally.
• 39:21
  The idea of a like a like an app, OK, I don't see how you
• 39:28
  think that that's going to push people into the affiliates.
• 39:31
  All right, so. Especially when there's already
• 39:34
  Ajy Barbell app that people can sign on to for $25.
• 39:38
  I mean, there you go. 14 day free trial.
• 39:40
  There you there you have it. So like we're.
• 39:43
  Sell outs. What happened to us?
• 39:45
  It's. My own thing.
• 39:47
  What are you talking about? Like.
• 39:49
  Hey, that's a that's a shameless plug.
• 39:51
  That's OK. It's all right.
• 39:51
  It's good to have. My affiliate link is down below,
• 39:55
  just click on that. I, I just think that a lot of
• 40:01
  people that are, that have affiliates that they, they, I
• 40:07
  mean, she's, this is where we are anywhere, just in society.
• 40:09
  Anyways, you're expecting someone to come and save you.
• 40:12
  And The thing is that that's not the job.
• 40:14
  That's not the job. And yes, that is Baywatch right
• 40:16
  there. That's right.
• 40:17
  Yeah, that and fire right there. So there you go at that.
• 40:21
  I I, I think that those complaints from affiliate owners
• 40:28
  is just a thing to complain about because your members don't
• 40:30
  care. They don't know.
• 40:33
  They don't care who is thinking about buying unless you're the
• 40:37
  one that makes a big deal about like, you know, what if CrossFit
• 40:40
  buys or if this person buys and we're going to have to do and I
• 40:43
  don't know what's going to happen.
• 40:45
  They want to know what your culture is, what's the culture
• 40:47
  in your gym in in your CrossFit affiliate.
• 40:51
  People here know when they when it's funny because the people
• 40:53
  will say our members, yeah, I'm going to CrossFit today.
• 40:59
  Well, you're coming to the Inferno today.
• 41:01
  It's not CrossFit, it's CrossFit Inferno.
• 41:04
  Crossfit's that like is that way.
• 41:06
  California is like, that's where CrossFit is.
• 41:08
  You know, we are CrossFit. But just so you know, yeah.
• 41:12
  Pet peeve is when people say I'm going to CrossFit, it always got
• 41:15
  under my skin because I'm like, no, you're going to CrossFit
• 41:18
  Maximus, right? CrossFit Inferno.
• 41:20
  I I agree it's a little thing but it always drove me nuts.
• 41:23
  No, I and and I agree with you. Personally, I agree with you.
• 41:26
  But what I'm saying is like for the general population, they
• 41:30
  don't know what HQ is doing. Do you think that's do you think
• 41:34
  that's changed over the last 10-15 years?
• 41:38
  That they don't know what's going on with HQ.
• 41:40
  Not, not with an HQ, but like, the more I think about it, and
• 41:44
  as I actually wrote this article and I got down to like the GLP
• 41:48
  ones, Ozempic and stuff. If Ozempic was out 10-15 years
• 41:55
  ago, HQ would be the megaphone of saying that these are not
• 41:59
  what you need to be on. Here's why, here's what you
• 42:02
  should be doing instead. And it'll just be the drum of
• 42:06
  that over and over and over. And Greg would have been like
• 42:09
  going crazy. The Who were the Russells?
• 42:14
  Yeah, they would have been posting stuff left and right.
• 42:17
  It would have been on dot com and everybody back then, or at
• 42:21
  least a large percentage of people that found CrossFit drank
• 42:25
  all of the Kool-aid, all of the content that was coming from
• 42:27
  that megaphone. I mean, drank all the Kool-aid,
• 42:31
  period. Now we don't have that.
• 42:33
  There is no megaphone, no. Kool-aid.
• 42:35
  And so, yeah, it is all directly what you were putting out in
• 42:40
  Inferno and what, you know, all these different small gyms are.
• 42:43
  And I, I think that's what if, if owners need anything, it's to
• 42:49
  have that megaphone again of fighting for A cause and
• 42:53
  protecting CrossFit in the affiliates.
• 42:56
  I want to restate what you said just in a little different way,
• 42:59
  because the, the way I kind of think about it is like
• 43:01
  chiropractic. If you go into a chiropractor,
• 43:03
  you'll find out like, oh, my knee hurts.
• 43:05
  It's not actually your knee. It's your quad or it's your IT
• 43:08
  band or whatever it is. It's always a, it's the
• 43:12
  reference point is not actually where it's happening.
• 43:14
  It's somewhere upstream. And so when I, when I see like,
• 43:17
  well, we need support from HQ for this and need we need this,
• 43:21
  It's like, no, if you had 300 members, you wouldn't say any of
• 43:25
  that because you'd have more money and you knew what to do
• 43:27
  with and you'd solve the problems on your own.
• 43:29
  And so it goes back to what you're saying spin of like,
• 43:32
  they're actually just mad that people aren't showing up as
• 43:35
  easily as they think they should.
• 43:37
  Now as part of that on the gyms, because you got to do your own
• 43:41
  work to get people in your gym. But with what spin saying is
• 43:45
  they need the megaphone that that's crop of the jobs.
• 43:48
  HQ has protection, the megaphone's the other one.
• 43:52
  Get asses in gyms. OK, but but I.
• 43:54
  Would argue that that is not the gym's complaints though, that
• 43:57
  they're they're not doing the megaphone.
• 43:59
  They're like help me. No, that's, well, that's what
• 44:02
  I'm saying. They're not, but they they're
• 44:05
  mistaken about where the pain is actually coming.
• 44:07
  From OK, OK, I, I I I see. I, I think that for the gyms
• 44:13
  that are asking HQ for help, the the fix to that is the, IT is on
• 44:18
  the gym to get members in their gym.
• 44:22
  It's not on CrossFit HQ to get members in my gym.
• 44:26
  In fact, when they were doing that thing and they were having
• 44:28
  that weird, oh, we have a client that's interested in your gym,
• 44:31
  they asked us. Not one of those people ever
• 44:35
  came back around. Not one.
• 44:37
  And I think I had, I think I was talking to Jr. about this.
• 44:39
  I think we had each had like, I don't know, four or five leads
• 44:43
  that came from CrossFit HQ and none of them panned out.
• 44:50
  It's on me to get people in here.
• 44:52
  I mean, that's I, I am an independent business and every
• 44:57
  CrossFit gym is an independent business.
• 44:59
  We are not franchises. If we were franchises, then
• 45:03
  yeah, every single commercial that they kick out, which they
• 45:05
  don't do enough commercials to out to people.
• 45:08
  Annie, if it was that, then we would have people coming in
• 45:14
  expecting be like, OK, so this CrossFit gym is like that one,
• 45:17
  like that one, like that one. That's when you know, like when
• 45:19
  John goes to whatever McDonald's he's going to go to, that all
• 45:22
  the Mcnuggets are going to taste the same because that's what a
• 45:25
  franchise is, right? But if you go to 1.
• 45:29
  They do all taste the same. Right on purpose, on purpose,
• 45:33
  but I, I think that I think that the gyms have to take ownership
• 45:41
  of the people that they get. And part of that is it's on me.
• 45:45
  Like I love the fact that people think that CrossFit is dangerous
• 45:49
  and I will love to have the conversation with anyone that
• 45:51
  feels that way. Let me explain why and where the
• 45:55
  where the where it's incorrect. Let me tell you what's up with
• 45:58
  it. Let me show you.
• 45:59
  Oh, you're afraid to come here. Just come in.
• 46:01
  I'll make sure that you're going to have a, you're going to have
• 46:02
  an awesome. Let me show you.
• 46:04
  The difference between the games and the methodology can be
• 46:07
  explained. I I think people see that they
• 46:11
  get afraid. I'm like, it's not, that's not
• 46:13
  what we're doing. We're.
• 46:14
  I I don't think I know everyone has said it, but like when the
• 46:18
  games is on ESPN, it's like, oh, we're going to have so many
• 46:20
  people coming in. Were there people that saw it
• 46:25
  that wanted to check it out? Yeah, OK.
• 46:26
  There were a couple. I would not say that that was
• 46:29
  like a big lead generating thing.
• 46:33
  We talked about it, we put it on.
• 46:35
  They knew that more. Eyes on it though.
• 46:37
  Yeah, I mean, like the people saw it, but I didn't get, I
• 46:40
  didn't get members. I know it.
• 46:41
  Did you? I get it.
• 46:42
  It got. But see, that's a certain type
• 46:45
  of person. You were still in that.
• 46:46
  Like, I'm in athlete mode. Oh, I can do that thing.
• 46:49
  Cool, I'll do that. OK, I'll I got I got you bro.
• 46:53
  I think and I don't know if the numbers to to, I don't know the
• 46:57
  numbers for this Tyler, but I think you can back it up that 17
• 47:02
  to 24 demographic. I think the games on ESPN was a
• 47:07
  huge driver after that graphic, maybe not.
• 47:12
  The. Does that does that evolve?
• 47:15
  It's one of the largest problems we have.
• 47:18
  There's the the volume of of Crossfitters that we've lost in
• 47:22
  the past seven or eight years is basically between 16 and 28.
• 47:30
  And that's all it's been. Decimated.
• 47:33
  You know, that's all they see Jason Hopper and they're like,
• 47:36
  that's what I want to do. Actually, I'll say all all of
• 47:39
  like the, you know, CrossFit dying like if you feel it from a
• 47:44
  a number of human bodies, it's from that age range.
• 47:47
  It's not any other age range only.
• 47:51
  'Cause I mean people who are already in it, when you drink
• 47:53
  the Kool-aid, I feel like the Kool-aid stays good.
• 47:58
  I think for the most part, if they, if they have, if they have
• 48:08
  feel like they've been wronged somehow, then it can sour it I
• 48:12
  think a little bit. But like, like what?
• 48:14
  That's what I don't get. Like all of the all the external
• 48:17
  things really have nothing to do with the people inside.
• 48:20
  What I do think is missing in like, you know, one of the
• 48:22
  things about the the games versus the methodology thing, I
• 48:30
  understand why Greg, I was pissed when Greg did what he did
• 48:34
  when he just ripped the the media guts out of the out of the
• 48:37
  HQ and turned everything to, you know, Bertha and Mabel, you
• 48:43
  know, getting up off the couch and picking up the milk jugs.
• 48:46
  But I understand what he was doing though, because what did
• 48:49
  he do? He want, he wanted to, he, he
• 48:51
  thought people needed that. And we said it.
• 48:55
  We I mean, we say it all the time.
• 48:56
  The the difference in training between the the elite level
• 49:00
  Olympic athlete and the Asian grandparent, like it's the same
• 49:04
  training, right? So we should be able to do the
• 49:06
  same stuff. It's just different by
• 49:07
  intensity. So if that's fine, if if all
• 49:09
  we're doing is talking about the games, then yes, we need to talk
• 49:13
  about the other things as well. And it needs to be spread out
• 49:16
  because what are we first? We're a methodology first, then
• 49:21
  we're a sport. I mean we have that, we have
• 49:23
  that Ave. but we are a methodology first.
• 49:26
  We are, we are a fitness methodology an increase work
• 49:30
  capacity across broad times and modal domain methodology.
• 49:34
  That is what we are. We have these avenues where you
• 49:37
  get to express that in different ways and compete because it's
• 49:39
  fun and it's then you can make some money out of it and we can
• 49:42
  crown the fittest and all of those things, but we are not a
• 49:45
  sport first. No, I mean, but where this where
• 49:48
  this originated was I'm saying that that it needs to be broken
• 49:53
  down to people when they walk into a.
• 49:54
  Gym Oh I agree because. Because they see that and you as
• 49:58
  the coach can break that down. Right.
• 50:01
  That's what I'm saying. Whether they see it like that or
• 50:03
  they either see it or they they hear from people, oh, it's
• 50:09
  dangerous, it's scary, it's so hard.
• 50:11
  It's this, it's that. That is our job to educate that.
• 50:19
  And that's just as important as saying to is understanding the,
• 50:22
  you know, the points of progression on air squat.
• 50:24
  It's the same thing. It's just as important.
• 50:28
  I got to I got to know the product that I'm giving and
• 50:32
  CrossFit shouldn't be scary. And CrossFit is going to meet
• 50:35
  you where you are, and it will make you better, and it will
• 50:39
  make everything else in your life better, too.
• 50:41
  How about How about this one real quick if you want to answer
• 50:44
  this one. I'm 50, do all my own
• 50:46
  programming and hit 4 PRS last year.
• 50:48
  You can learn CrossFit and do all this on your own.
• 50:51
  That's the problem. What do I get for $150.00 a
• 50:54
  month? What you get is you get a coach
• 50:57
  that's watching you do it. Like because you're hitting PRS,
• 50:59
  that's great. I have I have an answer however.
• 51:01
  You what? I have an answer as well when
• 51:04
  you're done. OK, but I, it is very
• 51:09
  interesting with what people do versus what they think they do
• 51:16
  on their own. And I and like, and I'm, I, I
• 51:20
  think everyone's at fault of this.
• 51:21
  I mean, I've seen videos that I put out of myself.
• 51:23
  I'm like, Dang, I thought I was going all the way up on that
• 51:25
  one. I was not Dang all right, but
• 51:27
  whatever, But I understand that like you know, if you're getting
• 51:31
  PRS, cool, but what you'll get out of a trainer is you will get
• 51:35
  some, especially as you're getting older, making sure that
• 51:37
  you're moving correctly so you don't get injured as you get as
• 51:39
  you continue to go on. If you are PR ING and you're
• 51:42
  moving like shit, you are going to blow out those rubber, those
• 51:45
  rubber bushings and those old man joints of yours.
• 51:48
  Believe me, I have them too, and they will break down and you
• 51:51
  will get injured. It will happen.
• 51:53
  So it keeps you moving correctly.
• 51:55
  That's what the coach, the coach isn't there to rah, rah, rah
• 51:58
  you. I mean, like, cool, awesome, but
• 52:01
  they're there to make sure that you're moving safe, you're
• 52:02
  moving correct, and you're getting better every single
• 52:04
  time. That's what a coach will do for
• 52:06
  you. Go ahead and answer.
• 52:09
  Yeah, my answer would be your turn.
• 52:12
  He wasn't. He wasn't specific, but I would
• 52:14
  say if those 4 PRS were your 5K time, your Max clean, your
• 52:20
  Jackie time, and then Max strict pull ups or Max bar muscle UPS.
• 52:25
  If, if those oh, it's tough man, it's tough.
• 52:31
  We're not right. You know what?
• 52:33
  No, no, right. Jackie is 1000 meter row, 50
• 52:36
  freaking empty bar thrusters and 30 pull ups.
• 52:38
  It's not that freaking hard, Greg.
• 52:40
  You created it. You created it.
• 52:43
  Greg. It's not hard.
• 52:45
  You should be ashamed of yourself.
• 52:47
  It's not hard. He's getting old.
• 52:49
  It's OK. It's all right.
• 52:52
  All all that to say is that. See, you see?
• 52:55
  You see how he gets all fired up?
• 52:56
  That's why he's all burned out. This is why he gets all burned
• 52:58
  out when he comes back to class. If it was.
• 53:00
  PRS. If that's was you, those were
• 53:02
  your PRS, then you're right. If they were all weightlifting,
• 53:06
  which I'm just going to go out on a limb and say they were
• 53:08
  because they were men. That's what everyone's PR.
• 53:10
  That's what especially men, that's what men do, right?
• 53:14
  We lift freaking weights. And if you don't lift weights,
• 53:17
  you're not a man. I it's just point blank, Tyler
• 53:21
  said it, I didn't say it. The that's what that's what
• 53:27
  that's what an affiliate can do for you is your PRS are going to
• 53:30
  be actually fitness and not just lifting weights because being
• 53:35
  stronger does not equal fitness as much as we want it to.
• 53:39
  I promise we speaking, speaking from experience, being stronger
• 53:46
  does not equal healthier slash fitter.
• 53:50
  OK, for Tanner Tanner, Tanner Shuck.
• 53:53
  But if those are, if your PRS are a 5K strict pull ups, jacket
• 53:57
  time and then, you know, Max clean, then you're killing it,
• 54:00
  man. And nobody should tell you what
• 54:02
  to do because you're freaking killed.
• 54:04
  All right, we're going to. Pull this up and then we'll let
• 54:07
  you get going there, Bill. I just wanted to tease this a
• 54:10
  little bit. What you're looking at here is
• 54:13
  the count of athletes by age per year, bottom being the athletes
• 54:18
  and then the count. So you can see up there in 2018
• 54:20
  was our peak and then 2020 fives in the white and the basically
• 54:26
  over 42 is pretty close to the same.
• 54:29
  And then there's a mountain of difference between 18 and and
• 54:34
  38. What's interesting is in the
• 54:36
  growth from 2015 to 2018 that that young demographic didn't
• 54:41
  grow. Oh yeah, that's that's a good
• 54:43
  point. It all came it, it all came the,
• 54:47
  the, the growth came from what, 26 plus, yeah, 26 to 46, like it
• 54:55
  was in the middle there. There was no growth on that
• 54:57
  young side, which is kind of interesting.
• 55:00
  All right, take this down. Who cares about this?
• 55:04
  I think it's good stuff to see. I think it's it's always
• 55:06
  interesting to see where, where the people are coming from.
• 55:12
  It's always interesting to wonder why they're coming from
• 55:15
  there, as if the young if the younger generations aren't
• 55:18
  coming in, what isn't that they aren't seen or what what didn't
• 55:22
  they know or what was the. Games anymore.
• 55:26
  Bill, maybe that may be, that may be the case.
• 55:28
  You know, I think it's hard for me to say because I came into
• 55:32
  it. I was already older, so I
• 55:34
  couldn't be like the they're just out of college, you know,
• 55:37
  looking for whatever. I was like, well, I just turned
• 55:39
  40. Cool.
• 55:41
  I think, I think the biggest mover and like I again, I can't
• 55:45
  speak for women, but for men and I might be wrong or like I'm OK
• 55:49
  with being wrong, but it's what enough men were looked at Rich
• 55:53
  Froning and they thought that they could be Rich Froning.
• 55:57
  I'm guilty. No, no and no.
• 55:58
  They they killed absolutely right.
• 56:00
  They're not even close, right. But he was close enough,
• 56:03
  attainable enough, that he was so BA you thought you could be a
• 56:07
  version of that. I got in before the whole
• 56:10
  throning became a, you know. Thrown.
• 56:12
  Outside it was. The frowning era.
• 56:15
  Yeah, it was the, it was the Speeler, it was the Amundsen.
• 56:18
  It was like these guys that were just like, wait, you could do
• 56:22
  what? And back then it was just, can
• 56:24
  you do hard things? Yeah, right.
• 56:26
  Right. I just before like then it was
• 56:27
  like, here's someone drawn a line in the sand.
• 56:30
  Can you do it? Yes, like that was that's what I
• 56:33
  liked about it. That's what got me into it.
• 56:35
  I'm like, oh, here's a this is cool.
• 56:36
  What is that's a weird work. I'm gonna do that one.
• 56:38
  That's a good. I'm gonna do that one.
• 56:39
  A good point to what Ortega's saying, they're focused on
• 56:42
  aesthetics. The young people are I was
• 56:45
  talking with spin about. This dude, old people are too
• 56:47
  man, don't be sad. I am just as much as I was when
• 56:50
  I was younger. Come on now.
• 56:52
  I was watching. The 2020 fourteen games this
• 56:58
  weekend and I, I noticed a couple things #1 all the
• 57:02
  athletes then visit games athletes, they move so slow.
• 57:05
  But the second thing I noticed was the way their bodies looked.
• 57:09
  They, a lot of them looked like essentially swimmers just jacked
• 57:12
  swimmers and I was it. It's like regular people now are
• 57:18
  training the same amount that those athletes were training
• 57:22
  back then. Most of the athletes back then
• 57:23
  we're doing like maybe a session or maybe like a session being
• 57:27
  make an hour and a half, two hours like this totally
• 57:30
  attainable. You can actually look the way
• 57:32
  you want to faster doing CrossFit.
• 57:34
  But people think, oh, I don't want to look like, you know,
• 57:37
  whoever, whatever at games athlete that's too bulky.
• 57:40
  It's like, no, you're never going to train that much and you
• 57:42
  will look the way you want to look.
• 57:44
  Yeah, the, the athletes, it's really interesting going from
• 57:48
  the early years to those middle years to what they look like
• 57:50
  now. Like it's, you can tell the
• 57:52
  difference in how they're training and what they're
• 57:54
  training to. I mean, when there wasn't any
• 57:58
  money and there, I mean, it was just a, it was just it, the
• 58:02
  CrossFit Games was a local throwdown.
• 58:04
  That's all it was. So you had regular people who
• 58:07
  just work out a little bit more than in this stuff and that's
• 58:09
  what they were competing at. So they weren't, they did look
• 58:11
  like regular people. Local throwdown and Amy Thoris,
• 58:13
  daughter from Iceland. Yeah, well, yeah.
• 58:17
  No, it's a local throwdown that some freaking person from
• 58:20
  Iceland can come to. That's it.
• 58:22
  You. Need, I mean, Miko's from
• 58:24
  Finland, right? Yeah, he's.
• 58:26
  Coming as you know, but no one even knows where that is.
• 58:29
  That's true. You, you don't you think it's
• 58:31
  South Africa? Well, Bill, you got to, you get
• 58:36
  to go start coaching class. I'm going to go do what I love
• 58:39
  you guys. I'm going to.
• 58:40
  Go. Thanks Bill.
• 58:41
  This was great. I love hanging out with you guys
• 58:42
  anytime. Appreciate it.
• 58:44
  All right, guys, later. All right, we will be right
• 58:47
  back. I'm not here to tell you to do
• 58:49
  crossbow. I definitely won't tell you it's
• 58:51
  the most effective training program there is, or that it
• 58:55
  makes you stronger, healthier, and one of the fittest people on
• 58:59
  Earth. Why would I need to do that?
• 59:03
  But if you wanted to do CrossFit, I'm not going to stop
• 59:06
  you. But.
• 59:07
  Just so we're clear. This isn't me telling you to do
• 59:11
  CrossFit. Jason Hopper does CrossFit.
• 59:14
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  It's all good, though. It's all good.
• 1:00:16
  All right, We're going to get into it, though viewer comments
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  real quick. Carrie Robson.
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  Colton Mertens is the Charles Barkley of CrossFit.
• 1:00:25
  Everyone loves him. But he never wins a championship
• 1:00:29
  ring. You know, when I read that, I
• 1:00:33
  kind of agree. Dude, Colton's great.
• 1:00:36
  Charles is great. Colton's great.
• 1:00:39
  Colton's too quiet. He I get you, I get you, but he
• 1:00:43
  talks. He talks trash.
• 1:00:45
  He does, dude. And look and look, Charles is a
• 1:00:48
  good old boy from Alabama, You know, like it fits.
• 1:00:52
  It's, it's, it's he's not a farmer, but he it fits.
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  He was quiet. He was quiet in Auburn.
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  He didn't take any tests, I'll tell you that.
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  That's true. At the penis, blue one all.
• 1:01:07
  Right, on that note, Dallon uses the mantle mask.
• 1:01:11
  There you go. See, use me at the it's best
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  stuff out there. He may have actually, I think he
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  actually asked for my code back in the day.
• 1:01:19
  So even Dallon uses the code all right at the penis blue one.
• 1:01:27
  The pan is blue. Nope.
• 1:01:34
  European here, I hate CrossFit because the guy good.
• 1:01:41
  Start. Yeah, because the guy once told
• 1:01:44
  me that Danny, I assume it's Spiegel.
• 1:01:47
  Looks like she has the Downs and I had to unfollow her because it
• 1:01:52
  makes me uncomfortable looking at Tard Butt.
• 1:01:58
  I don't even know. Where it's.
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  Going I'll finish also any Thoris daughter is Aaron
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  Rodgers. Yeah, I could.
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  I could. I could wrap my head around it.
• 1:02:11
  I didn't say that thing about Danny, did I?
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  I That's not for me. Somebody else told.
• 1:02:15
  That sounds too mean to me. Mean.
• 1:02:19
  You've never said nothing mean. Not on purpose, not with me,
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  not. I don't think I've ever said
• 1:02:27
  anything with I'll intent. How about that?
• 1:02:30
  Right. You think I have?
• 1:02:33
  No, no, you're just being honest.
• 1:02:36
  Add Jason Cabana over saturation.
• 1:02:39
  This is of sport is a problem in all sports.
• 1:02:43
  NBA 82 games and big players sit out.
• 1:02:45
  NFL 18 games is too many. MLB 162 games it's too many.
• 1:02:50
  Spin said it perfectly. We can watch the same people 678
• 1:02:57
  times in 12 months. Scarcity mindset at Corey
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  Treharne. Guys.
• 1:03:07
  I didn't expect Tyler's butt obsession to become a whole
• 1:03:09
  segment moving forward. Alas, here I am listening to
• 1:03:13
  provide hit expert analysis on Dallin Pepper.
• 1:03:18
  That brings us to today's Bum of the Week.
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  I wish I had a butt Dumper of the Dumper of the week.
• 1:03:25
  You got to start tagging the the barbell spin on Instagram.
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  We'll pull up a dumper. Can we say Bum of the week?
• 1:03:30
  It's Dumper. No, it's dumper of the week.
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  I. Don't like?
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  That I know, but it's my thing. What about big?
• 1:03:35
  What about I don't like mountain?
• 1:03:37
  What about big booty of the? Big booty of the week.
• 1:03:40
  No, because see, this is OK. Now we're going to get into a
• 1:03:43
  little butt philosophy here, OK? Dumper Philosophy.
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  Butts don't have to be big to be really nice.
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  It's form over over function sometimes, You know what I'm
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  saying? You know what I'm saying?
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  OK. I would say to in proportion of
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  their body, Yeah. And they should.
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  Yeah, OK. They should.
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  Is that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 'cause
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  you can have like a thin person, but they have a big butt for
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  their frame. Correct.
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  And it and it and it looks great.
• 1:04:14
  Yeah. At Pablo Gomez, Mexico City is
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  really far away from South America.
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  Like really, really far away. Yeah, it's like there's all of
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  Central America. I still think that those in
• 1:04:35
  South America will go to Mexico. Yeah.
• 1:04:41
  Corey Trejarne again, Jason's softball throw is equivalent to
• 1:04:46
  Barclays golf swing. I agree.
• 1:04:51
  I don't remember where he threw a softball.
• 1:04:53
  Jake Khalifa, I was sorry. This one may may get past a lot
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  of you if you don't follow Pedro at Edward Payne.
• 1:05:01
  What about the dump Pedro posted on his IG story that his kid
• 1:05:05
  took in the chair? That was epic dude.
• 1:05:08
  I don't even like using the word epic but that was amazing.
• 1:05:12
  Yeah, that was that was right. What killed it was the smile on
• 1:05:15
  the kids face. Yeah, for those who didn't know,
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  Pedro, his son, I don't know, probably two.
• 1:05:23
  Yeah, something like that. Probably trying to potty train
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  butt naked in a little kids chair and there was just a pile
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  like a pile on the floor on the chair dripping down and the kid
• 1:05:36
  just looking backwards with a gold.
• 1:05:39
  It honestly, it honestly just like frightened me for the
• 1:05:42
  future. Like I, I, I just, I couldn't
• 1:05:44
  even find it funny because I'm like, that sucks.
• 1:05:47
  John Lewis, let's take a break. Talk about baby stuff for a
• 1:05:51
  second, OK? I to this day, when Braun's
• 1:05:55
  trying to poop and he's going, he's doing it.
• 1:05:58
  I, I, I I burst out laughing every time to the point where it
• 1:06:02
  like distracts him and I can't getting it, buddy.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, I can't stop laughing every time.
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  No, baby, those are your viewer comments of the week.
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  Drop ears down below. If you're watching, if you're
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  still watching live, wait till the end and then throw those
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  down there and then also subscribe back to Mayhem.
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  You all right? I'm great.
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  Cool. Yeah, all the mayhem.
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  So couple things. First off, check out the article
• 1:06:36
  I just wrote. Will Mayhem actually put out a
• 1:06:40
  live stream? I don't know.
• 1:06:42
  First of all, AI is pretty crazy.
• 1:06:45
  It was like I looked at that and I was like, I mean, some of it's
• 1:06:49
  not legible. I would imagine that the
• 1:06:52
  handwriting on the board also wasn't very legible either.
• 1:06:55
  But really interesting stuff on that John.
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  I bet you haven't seen it yet. I I've I've yes I have but I
• 1:07:04
  didn't like zoom in or anything. So here's here's rich classic
• 1:07:09
  stuff over there talking about the broadcast prices, which
• 1:07:17
  sorry everyone, but. If we lose.
• 1:07:19
  As much money as we did last year on the broadcast.
• 1:07:22
  You're going to get. Pre packaged or post post
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  production event videos versus broadcast.
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  Because I love you but I'm not in love with you.
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  Blast. Stuff over there that's.
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  Good stuff all. Right.
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  What is AI? What?
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  What? What do?
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  You mean what is AI? So so.
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  Oh, oh, oh, you're able to see what was written.
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  So to the to the left over here, this is on the live stream or
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  the the the video, right? And I'm like, OK, they're
• 1:07:51
  talking about their their broadcast, their live coverage.
• 1:07:56
  And I'm trying to read it and I'm like squinting, I'm trying
• 1:07:59
  to pause it like at the time where the camera is still and
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  it's not kind of pixelated. And it's like the best one.
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  I best screen grab I could get. And I'm like full live something
• 1:08:11
  and post coverage as live. And I'm like, what is?
• 1:08:17
  And so I was like, you know what, I'm going to go take it
• 1:08:21
  and put it into a little AI and say, can you unblur this for me?
• 1:08:26
  That's crazy, I did not see that.
• 1:08:30
  How many did you? Did you just run it through one
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  or did you run it through multiple?
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  I went through a couple different ones.
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  This was Google Gemini and I assume, I mean it's probably
• 1:08:40
  mostly accurate. I mean, again, like you saw what
• 1:08:43
  it looked like, but it puts it together and this is what popped
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  out. And like, maybe something that
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  like the 150 could be 120 or it could be, you know, 180, I don't
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  know. But like it's it's using its
• 1:08:53
  best judgement. I was like, then you start
• 1:08:56
  comparing to the original. You're like, wow, like, you
• 1:08:59
  know, proximity to field makes sense, opportunities to engage,
• 1:09:02
  like on site experience as amazing as possible.
• 1:09:05
  And then you see live capabilities 25,000 as a post
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  coverage or a full broadcast 150,000, which is in line with
• 1:09:14
  what Rory said they spent last. Year last year, yeah.
• 1:09:20
  Which I thought was crazy and then this part over here was
• 1:09:24
  wild Red Bull onset cost or and that's where I don't think they
• 1:09:28
  could always interpret CW something event WFP.
• 1:09:34
  What do you think that means? Like just going off the Red Bull
• 1:09:37
  onset cost or? That could be like offset cost
• 1:09:42
  or are they like, how did that WFP do something to like, you
• 1:09:46
  know, I don't know. I don't know if they, yeah, I
• 1:09:48
  don't know if they have some insight as to what the deal was
• 1:09:50
  between Red Bull and them, but the WFP is awesome.
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  Yeah. I was like, this is crazy.
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  If it means what I think it means, it's awesome.
• 1:10:01
  Yeah. So I thought that was
• 1:10:04
  interesting. So we don't know what we'll get
• 1:10:06
  from from that. But the the main part of the
• 1:10:12
  segment, what I was planning on talking about was this, 19 of
• 1:10:19
  the 30 athletes who were initially invited based off of
• 1:10:22
  the rogue point system have declined their invitation.
• 1:10:28
  Ricky Medeiros Crouch kind of makes sense when you're
• 1:10:32
  traveling from Australia. Pat Velder, who knows what he's
• 1:10:35
  doing this year, but Dallin Pepper, James Sprague also said
• 1:10:39
  no, you know, I don't think there's too many surprises with
• 1:10:44
  the rest of them. But no Daniel Brandon, no Alexis
• 1:10:48
  Raptis, nobody's coming from Australia, no Alex, Alex Kazan.
• 1:10:54
  So a lot of athletes saying no thanks and they start moving
• 1:10:59
  down the list. Haley Adams was on there.
• 1:11:00
  She accepted. Man in agony's accepted.
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  My question to you guys is if you were Rory and Rich, how
• 1:11:10
  would you field how how would you determine your 20 athlete
• 1:11:15
  men and women at this? Point or before.
• 1:11:18
  No, like 2 months ago, if you were in, if, if Rory asked you,
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  what would I, what, what, what should we do to have a semi
• 1:11:26
  final with 20 men and 20 women? How would you get there?
• 1:11:30
  And we want to be, you know, we want to have the best athletes.
• 1:11:34
  I have a definitive answer. Let's hear it.
• 1:11:39
  You want to go first, Tyler? No, you go ahead.
• 1:11:43
  So I think your first 15 invites 20 person field, right?
• 1:11:47
  I think your first 15 invites are automatically the top 15 at
• 1:11:52
  the games. This way you avoid any diversity
• 1:11:56
  picks. If they made the top 15, they've
• 1:11:58
  earned the right to be invited the top 15 no matter who it is.
• 1:12:03
  I do not care. In that order, get 15 invites
• 1:12:08
  from from there you go. So say like 6 of them reject
• 1:12:13
  you, OK, from is it or, you know, 19, whatever that's in
• 1:12:17
  this lot. But from there, you take the top
• 1:12:20
  15 or, or from there you fill out the rest of it, The rest of
• 1:12:24
  the 15 from the open, last year's open, you're.
• 1:12:31
  Just saying last year. Yeah, well, I mean, the is the
• 1:12:35
  open going to. I guess the Open's going to
• 1:12:37
  happen before Mayhem, right? That quarterfinals will be
• 1:12:40
  before Mayhem. So no, so the from the open this
• 1:12:43
  year, that's how you will invite from your remaining spots like
• 1:12:48
  last year Mayhem was before. So I was saying, you know what I
• 1:12:50
  mean, but. It only leaves you a month.
• 1:12:53
  I I, So if you want it to be sooner than that, then you take
• 1:12:56
  the open from last year, but you make it known this is how we're
• 1:12:59
  doing it. And then, and you can fill that
• 1:13:03
  away all the way to the 15. It rewards people for trying in
• 1:13:07
  the open. It rewards people who have
• 1:13:10
  earned it at the games. And then from top to bottom, the
• 1:13:13
  season means something as far as getting people to the Mayhem
• 1:13:17
  class. And I get in the open, you will
• 1:13:20
  have people like Kale, but I, I would argue that that was a good
• 1:13:24
  thing, You know, that he got exposed.
• 1:13:27
  I would argue that was a good thing.
• 1:13:29
  Some would argue it was an on purpose thing.
• 1:13:32
  Maybe, but from. Some would.
• 1:13:35
  From the top. So say say like on the men's
• 1:13:38
  side, you invite the top 15 games athletes, 8 of them, eight
• 1:13:42
  of them rejected. Then you go straight from the
• 1:13:46
  open until the 15 is filled up and then once the 15 is filled
• 1:13:51
  up, you can invite 5 people of whoever you want to pick and
• 1:13:55
  like. That can be your people that
• 1:13:57
  didn't like Velnar, right? Like that, that or Chandler.
• 1:14:00
  If you want to invite other people, you can and they like
• 1:14:05
  the invites, they like the special people invite.
• 1:14:08
  So if you want to keep that, you can or you just fill out fill it
• 1:14:12
  all out to the top 20 from the open.
• 1:14:15
  Are you? So you're OK with sending out
• 1:14:18
  these invites because like that's basically what Syndicate
• 1:14:21
  did the top 20 at the games all got an invoice that invite
• 1:14:23
  that's that's just went out as well last week.
• 1:14:29
  So you're cool. You're cool with having to deal
• 1:14:31
  with all these people saying no, like you're going to obviously
• 1:14:34
  have quants out. You know, Chandler's not doing
• 1:14:38
  the season. People don't want to travel from
• 1:14:40
  Australia but you're cool with having to like do deal with all
• 1:14:43
  the back fills? Yeah, I don't think it's gonna,
• 1:14:46
  I don't think it's that difficult to just look who's
• 1:14:48
  next one. The first invites, the 15 games
• 1:14:51
  people. And then after that you
• 1:14:52
  literally just go down the line the set and say you have two
• 1:14:57
  days to respond and you invite the next.
• 1:14:59
  So like if you have, if you're gonna go all the way to the top
• 1:15:02
  20, say, say if you want 5 special invites, you leave those
• 1:15:04
  five special invites, they're special because it should freak
• 1:15:07
  and say yes. If you don't want that, say you
• 1:15:10
  have 12 spots left, right, then you invite 12 people.
• 1:15:16
  You have two days to respond and then you invite the next four
• 1:15:20
  people because. Always leave an ultimatum.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah, yes, yes. And then you will fill out, you
• 1:15:27
  will fill out your bracket and you will fill it out that way.
• 1:15:29
  And then you reward people for being good at CrossFit.
• 1:15:34
  You reward like the best people. You're not just inviting people
• 1:15:38
  because they have Instagram followers.
• 1:15:42
  That's fair. That's fair.
• 1:15:43
  Tyler, do you have an idea? Yeah, cool.
• 1:15:49
  What I would do is I would do. I was trying to think it
• 1:15:56
  amazing. The other Watkins the Mayhem
• 1:15:58
  Watkins Paper Rock. Scissors for Peru goes you're
• 1:16:03
  going to run into this wall where it's like people are
• 1:16:06
  contemplating going because they they know that their chances are
• 1:16:11
  are ever decreasing like basically all four of the guys
• 1:16:15
  who are going are probably going to go to the games right well.
• 1:16:20
  Three Well, 33. Of them are.
• 1:16:23
  Right, that's what I'm saying. But like, all of them are
• 1:16:25
  contenders to go to the games. Right, so but OK, but hear.
• 1:16:28
  Me out, do you think? Do you think if looking at this
• 1:16:31
  list between Adler, Kranikov, Hopper, Hatfield, Mertens, the
• 1:16:35
  three spots, go to one of them, one of these five guys, Or, you
• 1:16:39
  know, especially now and of the women, you have Ariel Gabby,
• 1:16:45
  Emma, Emily, Lucy Campbell and Olivia Cursetter, three of
• 1:16:49
  those. Or do you think somebody else
• 1:16:51
  could come in and sneak in? On the women's side, I could see
• 1:16:53
  somebody sneak in. It would be just barely none,
• 1:16:58
  none on the guy. Let's stick with the guy's side.
• 1:17:00
  So the guy's side's like locked. I just can't like who's better
• 1:17:06
  than those guys right there that's going to show out for
• 1:17:08
  this? Well, they, the one, the only
• 1:17:10
  people better have said no. Right.
• 1:17:13
  And so. I'm sorry, Tanner Belazz is not
• 1:17:15
  taking a spot from those guys, but I would, I would.
• 1:17:19
  But I would also say that, you know that everybody knows that,
• 1:17:23
  you know that. And this, these, all of these
• 1:17:25
  guys are top 15 in the games, right?
• 1:17:27
  They've already said yes. They're the ones that have
• 1:17:29
  already said no. I think whenever you start
• 1:17:32
  pulling from the top 15 in the open, you'll get less rejections
• 1:17:37
  because they know they're not going to beat them anyway.
• 1:17:40
  I like like it wouldn't. They're not going to beat them
• 1:17:44
  anywhere, you know what I mean? They just want to go to Maine.
• 1:17:47
  My next step, I think I would do a play on what John says what
• 1:17:51
  what's the the time difference between quarterfinals and
• 1:17:54
  mayhem? Three weeks.
• 1:17:58
  That's close. And I mean, that's why I said
• 1:18:00
  last year. So it could be like, you already
• 1:18:03
  know it's coming, but you needed to make that announcement
• 1:18:07
  pretty. Right.
• 1:18:09
  I like going off this year's Open.
• 1:18:10
  I I do too, but you just have to know what's.
• 1:18:13
  You got to know what's had there.
• 1:18:15
  You got to know what's there. If the opens programmed well.
• 1:18:19
  I don't think it matters. I don't.
• 1:18:20
  I don't think it matters. This.
• 1:18:22
  This is just where your invites come from.
• 1:18:24
  So we go one or two directions. Tell me what you like better.
• 1:18:28
  My first thing is, so you need to incentivize a group of people
• 1:18:31
  who who to go, who are like, I don't like, I don't have really
• 1:18:36
  a good chance. So you need to make like a
• 1:18:37
  another element to it. What I would do is I would take
• 1:18:41
  the top athletes from each state at on the East Coast to create
• 1:18:51
  like essentially an East Coast championship and then you can
• 1:18:55
  wear like a jersey from your state or something like that
• 1:18:58
  back to. The teams.
• 1:18:59
  Yeah, well, I mean, like, people would be hyped to go and
• 1:19:02
  represent their state and know that it's like my season doesn't
• 1:19:05
  end here and like I really do win like a sort of a big deal
• 1:19:08
  and I could possibly go to the games and throw down with the
• 1:19:10
  athletes. Yeah, but never would never be
• 1:19:12
  able. To are there 8 athletes from the
• 1:19:14
  East Coast that would? I think there are athletes like.
• 1:19:17
  So if you went off the Open, yeah, I think there are athletes
• 1:19:19
  from each state that would do well.
• 1:19:21
  Yeah. And that so that the second part
• 1:19:22
  of this would be expanded to all 50 states.
• 1:19:28
  How? I mean, you couldn't take all of
• 1:19:30
  them, but like figure out some way in which you'd like you're
• 1:19:33
  the represent of the, you know, the North American champion or
• 1:19:35
  something like that. I just some other way to where
• 1:19:41
  it's incentivizing some sort of 2nd place prize is kind of
• 1:19:46
  weird, but there's an underdog story to it, you know what I'm
• 1:19:49
  saying? We saw that last year, yeah.
• 1:19:54
  I don't, I, I think last year we had last minute withdrawals.
• 1:19:58
  I think it was hard at the very end to fill like kind of the
• 1:20:01
  John's Point, 18th, 19th, 20th spots, right?
• 1:20:05
  Like because so many people had declined and they know.
• 1:20:10
  If they want to have a path to the games, that's their ultimate
• 1:20:13
  goal, not just to go out and compete, you know, have fun.
• 1:20:16
  Throwing down in Mayhem that you're competing there is
• 1:20:22
  probably not the best for you with everything else that was
• 1:20:25
  going on last year and it's going on this year, right?
• 1:20:28
  Like you've got to pick, like, do I rather go out the legends?
• 1:20:31
  Was it the week after or do I go to syndicate or Norcal or do I
• 1:20:37
  travel across the country or the world to go somewhere else and
• 1:20:43
  having to do that backfill process and all that is a pain.
• 1:20:48
  Now I saw some comments in there like why don't we just make the
• 1:20:50
  open the qualifier and I can, I can support that.
• 1:20:54
  I'd like the idea of having the open being a start before
• 1:20:58
  anything else. I'd if I had my way and that was
• 1:21:00
  the perfect world, Yes, but we're living in the Wild West.
• 1:21:05
  Anything goes right now. If I was Rory, I would have said
• 1:21:10
  an open invitation. Submit that you want to compete.
• 1:21:17
  Oh, casting call. So that way everybody signs up
• 1:21:21
  that wants to, and now you have your roster of 200 athletes.
• 1:21:25
  But what's stopping you from just submitting and be like,
• 1:21:28
  yeah, you know what, never mind, I'm going to nor Cal.
• 1:21:31
  Because then you've accepted, you've have confirmed they've
• 1:21:34
  they've submitted their name and they will be picked based off of
• 1:21:37
  a ranking system. And I think going from the games
• 1:21:40
  to like maybe probably John's point, like just using the open
• 1:21:44
  and ranking them from there. And here's the list of 20
• 1:21:49
  confirmed athletes. Like those last minute withdraws
• 1:21:53
  last year when Daniel withdrew, Dallin withdrew a few others
• 1:21:58
  like that wasn't viewed favorably.
• 1:22:00
  No. Right.
• 1:22:01
  And that that was public. Now these guys like, yeah,
• 1:22:05
  Dallin and James and you know, Ricky and Jay are going out to
• 1:22:09
  Tori and the other guys are going out to legends or work out
• 1:22:12
  like that all makes sense. But if you've said I'm going to
• 1:22:15
  be there and then you withdraw, like everybody knows you said
• 1:22:21
  yes, you you have your list of people and what what you want to
• 1:22:25
  if you want to use rogue whatever, I don't think that's
• 1:22:27
  the right way to do it. I think using the games and then
• 1:22:29
  using like this year's semifinals or doing something
• 1:22:33
  that gives you that right, like ranking order would be
• 1:22:39
  beneficial. But that way you don't have to
• 1:22:42
  deal with all right, here's your list of, you know, 15.
• 1:22:46
  All right, here's another 10, here's another 10 until you try
• 1:22:50
  to get to the that part like it's got to be exhausting for
• 1:22:54
  those guys. So that's what I would say is
• 1:22:57
  just have an open call. Who wants to go and do it for
• 1:23:02
  me? Yeah, there you go.
• 1:23:05
  I don't hate it. I like the, I like the public
• 1:23:09
  humiliation portion of it though.
• 1:23:11
  Like that's kind of what I like. This part how how they've done
• 1:23:14
  it now. I mean, the way that they played
• 1:23:16
  it is Oh, what though? What you're saying?
• 1:23:17
  But I like how they're doing it too.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, imagine being scared, too scared to compete with the with
• 1:23:21
  the classic. That's that was pretty good.
• 1:23:25
  Yeah, that was that was good. So stay tuned for Mayhem.
• 1:23:31
  I plan on being out there hopefully.
• 1:23:33
  Tyler, John, oh, it's pretty far for you, but.
• 1:23:36
  I'll accept an invite, Rich, send that to me.
• 1:23:39
  If if we're commentating, then mayhem.
• 1:23:43
  Yeah. Then I never know.
• 1:23:45
  I didn't see it on the whiteboard, but you never know.
• 1:23:47
  I saw, I saw Peter, Peter's comp.
• 1:23:51
  That would be amazing Peter's comment.
• 1:23:54
  You should have added that thing there.
• 1:23:56
  Yeah, you should. You should have Peter's comment.
• 1:24:00
  Fine, we'll do it. It's like the greatest comment
• 1:24:03
  on that post. Yeah, you guys want to head over
• 1:24:09
  to picture this? Yes.
• 1:24:11
  So last week we debuted a new game.
• 1:24:14
  We compared, we, we, John and Tyler identified and compared a
• 1:24:20
  sports athlete that's not a CrossFit to a CrossFit athlete.
• 1:24:25
  This week, we're going to flip it.
• 1:24:26
  Nope, Nope. We're sticking with CrossFit,
• 1:24:29
  but it's going to be a little bit different.
• 1:24:32
  Let me see here. Disney characters.
• 1:24:34
  Nope. Nope.
• 1:24:35
  Oh, I can get down at Disney characters.
• 1:24:37
  I knew each other was like hell yeah.
• 1:24:41
  Dude, Pixar characters. Pixar we can.
• 1:24:43
  Do we go on wild with Pixar? House.
• 1:24:46
  It's going to be a House of. Harry Potter it is not.
• 1:24:54
  Let's see. Hang on, let me get this so it
• 1:24:57
  actually works. Oh man.
• 1:24:59
  I'm I am really don't don't peek, John, I know you peeked.
• 1:25:05
  Was that? Am I not supposed to look
• 1:25:06
  somewhere? Yeah.
• 1:25:08
  All right, here we go. It is actors and actresses.
• 1:25:12
  OK. Oh OK, so it's the same game,
• 1:25:16
  just actors. Same game actors and actresses.
• 1:25:18
  You're going to say I have not? Prepared for this?
• 1:25:20
  OK, I I haven't either. So you guys had no idea that we
• 1:25:24
  were even doing this game? You had no idea.
• 1:25:26
  We'll have different opinions on what what these people are.
• 1:25:29
  Like, I know I like actors you don't like.
• 1:25:31
  You like actors I don't like. So it's gonna be yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:34
  Here we go, Leonardo DiCaprio. Cool dude, it's one of the best
• 1:25:40
  of all time. Had to start a while ago.
• 1:25:44
  What you know we got to know him as a kid is old now dates young
• 1:25:50
  girls heartthrob who was a heartthrob.
• 1:25:56
  Dude, this is Noah. I think it's rich.
• 1:26:02
  No, I'm not giving Leo to Rich. Rich is too edgy for for Leo.
• 1:26:08
  It's not Noah, dude. Noah's not.
• 1:26:11
  Edgy. Yeah, Noah's the least edgy
• 1:26:14
  person. Rich is too edgy to be Leo.
• 1:26:16
  Dude, dude, it's not, it's not Noah.
• 1:26:18
  It's not Noah. Noah in Shutter Island can
• 1:26:24
  that's like, no. The the what they acted in is
• 1:26:29
  very not very important. To me, yeah, but dude, he's a
• 1:26:32
  freaking like, like Leonardo's done a lot of different things.
• 1:26:36
  Like Noah's got one setting. It's not.
• 1:26:40
  Yeah, but like. What is it and and we?
• 1:26:43
  Want to go back as far as as Gilbert grapes here, John?
• 1:26:46
  I got one. I got one.
• 1:26:47
  That's Johnny Depp, Titanic. No Leo's in that.
• 1:26:51
  Oh yeah, he's the retarded boy. How about a game?
• 1:26:53
  How about a games athlete from California from back in the day?
• 1:26:56
  Philly. No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:27:01
  Fisher. Yes, Garrett Fisher.
• 1:27:05
  No, dude, guys, he's so much better than Garrett Fisher.
• 1:27:09
  We have to pick somebody good. Wasn't Garrett like 4th?
• 1:27:13
  Garrett was good. He was so bad, he's not even
• 1:27:16
  he's anonymous on the leaderboard.
• 1:27:18
  That's right. Yeah, Garrett's a one hit wonder
• 1:27:21
  in 2013. Like he was, he was great on
• 1:27:24
  the. Burden.
• 1:27:25
  Amazing potential. No, he's not.
• 1:27:27
  He got stomped when he got to the sled.
• 1:27:29
  He was good on the run. Cool, I know a lot of good
• 1:27:32
  runners. He wasn't good on the burden,
• 1:27:34
  Rob Ford. He wasn't great with the burden.
• 1:27:35
  He was great on the. Runner and when nobody knows
• 1:27:38
  that guy is. Oh, who's the other?
• 1:27:40
  The other Ozzie? Rob Forte.
• 1:27:44
  Dude, we have to name somebody good.
• 1:27:47
  He's one of the best actors of all time.
• 1:27:50
  He even won an Oscar. Dude, he's like all of the he's
• 1:27:53
  got so many good movies. You're you're thinking.
• 1:27:57
  You're trying to make him a goat though, and he's just.
• 1:28:00
  I'm not trying to make him a goat.
• 1:28:03
  He should just be better than Noah, No offense Noah.
• 1:28:07
  Definitely Hatfield. It is definitely not Hatfield.
• 1:28:11
  I feel, hear. Me out.
• 1:28:13
  I know I'm I'm switching genders here but.
• 1:28:16
  Wet Thrill. Red wheel Hold Holden.
• 1:28:19
  What about Dan Bailey? I could probably settle for Dan
• 1:28:24
  the only the the the Ronnie cheese.
• 1:28:29
  No, guys, he's. Just gonna throw out.
• 1:28:31
  Ronnie like. Dating all the young women that
• 1:28:33
  might be oh. A con con Porter.
• 1:28:36
  Sweet Kenny leverage. Dude Con Porter.
• 1:28:39
  Con Porter would be a good one. I know like Conn's more.
• 1:28:43
  Of like a McConaughey though. But this is.
• 1:28:48
  This is DiCaprio. You're killing me.
• 1:28:50
  Here I was going to say Julie Fouche.
• 1:28:53
  Newberry. No.
• 1:28:57
  I always see Leo is very clean though, like I don't Newberry
• 1:29:02
  and and. Con are not.
• 1:29:04
  Con are not very clean. Valner I don't.
• 1:29:08
  Know what that means? Fukowski.
• 1:29:14
  No, Dude, he's there's no way he's Fukowski.
• 1:29:17
  Like Wendy. Dude Fukowski's like like an
• 1:29:21
  engineer type deal. You're you're he's not that.
• 1:29:24
  Are you guys going to come up with one?
• 1:29:26
  Dan. All right.
• 1:29:27
  Damn, settle for Dan. All right, I don't, I don't like
• 1:29:30
  it, but. That was rough.
• 1:29:32
  All right, That was the first one.
• 1:29:33
  Next one, Ryan Gosling. Oh, they which would.
• 1:29:39
  Ryan like though? What?
• 1:29:42
  What athlete would be a liability at cornerback?
• 1:29:47
  I knew you were going to go with that one.
• 1:29:49
  You were Jason Hopper. Jason.
• 1:29:51
  Ryan. Ryan Gosling's Dallin Pepper.
• 1:29:58
  OK. Oh wow.
• 1:30:00
  I like. This you like that?
• 1:30:02
  Yes, he's he's like calm, cool, collected in most hair in most
• 1:30:07
  situations. Yeah, he's good looking.
• 1:30:09
  I. Think Down's got range as far as
• 1:30:12
  emotional. He's he's fun and nice, but he's
• 1:30:14
  also got. Some rage to him.
• 1:30:16
  Does does Gosling have a good dumper though?
• 1:30:19
  I would say Gosling has a good one.
• 1:30:22
  But it's under this like base of calmness though, yes, you know.
• 1:30:28
  Dallon can definitely ride a dirt bike.
• 1:30:31
  He can drive he. Can I know I I I hope Dallon
• 1:30:36
  does not disappoint me, but I think Dallon's lit jam in some
• 1:30:39
  good tunes when he's driving for sure.
• 1:30:42
  Oh I don't, I think you have different definition of what's
• 1:30:44
  good tunes, but fair enough. Probably fits Tyler's stuff.
• 1:30:49
  All right, we're we're good though.
• 1:30:50
  We got that one right away. Dallon's good.
• 1:30:53
  All right. Next up, Jennifer Lawrence.
• 1:30:57
  OK, so John, what what is your perception of Jennifer 'cause we
• 1:31:00
  need to I. Have a particular Abby Dolman?
• 1:31:05
  No, no. 'Cause dude, Jennifer Lawrence
• 1:31:07
  is like, not famous. Like she's famous, but she has
• 1:31:11
  the attitude of somebody not famous.
• 1:31:13
  She's a bro. I have.
• 1:31:17
  Mixed chillings. She, she is, she is down to
• 1:31:19
  earth, Abby. Mixed feelings about her.
• 1:31:21
  She's from Louisville, but I think you kind of nail it with
• 1:31:27
  Abby. I think so.
• 1:31:30
  I think so too. Yeah, you, you.
• 1:31:31
  Nail who? Who would in an interview?
• 1:31:33
  Who would go? Where's the pizza?
• 1:31:35
  That's Abby. Don't make man.
• 1:31:38
  Yeah, that's for sure. There's nobody more Broy than
• 1:31:42
  than Abby though. But it it's a, it's a good, it's
• 1:31:45
  in a good way. No, 'cause that Abby's cool.
• 1:31:51
  Yeah, I'm going to give it to Abby.
• 1:31:53
  All right, Wow. All right.
• 1:31:55
  After the first one, I didn't think we were going to be yeah
• 1:31:57
  all night. John nailed that one.
• 1:32:00
  All right. Next up, Macaulay Culkin.
• 1:32:03
  Oh, and Rose. This is.
• 1:32:08
  We turned out to be a drug addict Taylor self.
• 1:32:11
  This is De Chico I'm. Just kidding.
• 1:32:13
  Don't be mad at me. Don't be mad at me for.
• 1:32:16
  That different? A Mayhem guy.
• 1:32:18
  You think it's a mayhem guy? I it could be.
• 1:32:22
  Palladino. Yeah, we can probably come up
• 1:32:28
  with somebody better than Maladin Palladino I.
• 1:32:31
  Don't. Know great great in the team,
• 1:32:34
  team games and then killer games.
• 1:32:37
  What about her as a kid? Kayla, Stefano.
• 1:32:42
  Kayla, Stefano. Kayla Stefano.
• 1:32:45
  Stefano. Yeah.
• 1:32:46
  But what'd she do? Yeah, she won the team games one
• 1:32:49
  year and then disappeared. Yeah.
• 1:32:51
  She beat Hayley Adams and then Haley ruined her.
• 1:32:55
  Life, yeah, but I feel I feel like Macaulay has a little bit
• 1:33:00
  more of a. Dude, Palladino's pretty on the
• 1:33:02
  mark. Palladino's pretty on the mark.
• 1:33:04
  Rest in peace. Chico's Chico's funnier than
• 1:33:08
  than. Dude, I'll go, I'll go
• 1:33:10
  Palladino. Palladino's good.
• 1:33:14
  All right. Next one, Meryl Streep.
• 1:33:18
  I don't so unpopular opinion, I don't like Meryl Streep.
• 1:33:22
  I don't like her either, but she's very accomplished.
• 1:33:24
  She's still doing it. She's she's is a good actress.
• 1:33:27
  I just don't like her. She's Annie.
• 1:33:31
  She loves Prada. I think so.
• 1:33:32
  I think I think on the money. I'm with you.
• 1:33:35
  What? About the Rebecca Voigt.
• 1:33:38
  Annie, I like I. Like no, because Meryl was
• 1:33:41
  Meryl's actually successful. Wow.
• 1:33:46
  You know how many Oscars Meryl Streep has won?
• 1:33:49
  The same amount of games that Annie Thor's daughters won.
• 1:33:52
  We're not asking who was third place in 2011.
• 1:33:56
  Oscar No pal. Catherine's good, but I think
• 1:34:01
  Annie feels more right to me. That was, you know what?
• 1:34:05
  That was a dirty shot. And I'm sorry, that was, that
• 1:34:08
  was, that was, that was very. Good, You're gonna get a damn
• 1:34:11
  from Becca. Tell you what.
• 1:34:12
  I gotta come at you. I don't even dislike Becca boy
• 1:34:16
  and y'all just make it bad. You make it.
• 1:34:18
  Bad. We make it bad.
• 1:34:20
  I say that Becca is one that you said that.
• 1:34:24
  I said she'd be considered. I said she could be considered.
• 1:34:27
  And you're like, Oh no, she's terrible.
• 1:34:29
  Got you on here you idiots. I was hoping it was too.
• 1:34:36
  I just, I just threw that out. I just threw that out.
• 1:34:38
  I. Was John's that friend that's
• 1:34:40
  got enough things right that I'm just like, it's all right that
• 1:34:43
  whatever he says it. Sounds like something you would
• 1:34:46
  know all right. Andy Thoris daughter.
• 1:34:50
  Gosh Dang you cross fat. Amy Schumer.
• 1:34:54
  Oh man, Sporty Beth. No, Amy, I think Amy's got some
• 1:35:00
  saving qualities. I actually.
• 1:35:01
  Like Amy Schumer, I, I, I get it.
• 1:35:04
  She just like the same thing every single time.
• 1:35:06
  But I, I, she had that movie that LeBron was in train wreck
• 1:35:13
  and I, I thoroughly enjoyed that movie.
• 1:35:22
  I'm trying to think of, I shouldn't say this out loud.
• 1:35:26
  I'm trying to think girl that's got fat girl energy.
• 1:35:28
  Lauren Brooks. No, no, Lauren wasn't good
• 1:35:33
  enough to be well. It is.
• 1:35:36
  It is perfect. Lindsay Allen Dweller.
• 1:35:46
  No because Amy's fun. Valenzuela gives me 0 fun vibes.
• 1:35:54
  I don't. I don't know, I never talked to
• 1:35:55
  her, but. We're we're, we're going.
• 1:35:58
  Lauren Brooks. Ron Brooks.
• 1:36:00
  OK, people don't know who Lauren Brooks is.
• 1:36:02
  That's that's that's a pool. I bet crossfat does.
• 1:36:05
  And that's about it. All right, Matt Damon.
• 1:36:10
  Oh, I love Matt Damon. I KFC Kevin from Barstow was
• 1:36:16
  talking about these him and what's his buddy's name.
• 1:36:19
  Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck, our peak average
• 1:36:22
  white guy. They're the best we got.
• 1:36:25
  That just succeed, man. That just succeed Sam Quat.
• 1:36:32
  No dude, Matt Damon is awesome. What is your?
• 1:36:37
  Why do you throw out these good great.
• 1:36:40
  I'm going peak average white guy.
• 1:36:42
  No, man, but that's done great things.
• 1:36:46
  Oh. Justin oh, oh, oh, perfect.
• 1:36:54
  OK, somebody in the comments said it will get Scott Ben
• 1:36:56
  Smith. No, it's Scott.
• 1:36:58
  No, he's not. No, he's not Scott Banchet.
• 1:37:01
  He's Matt Damon is Kerry's man. He won an Oscar out the gate.
• 1:37:07
  Damon. Yes, goodwill hunting.
• 1:37:11
  Ben's not got no personality range at all.
• 1:37:14
  I'm sorry. He's just like he's level headed
• 1:37:17
  all the. Time.
• 1:37:18
  Nobody dislikes him. But Matt's done more than just
• 1:37:22
  acting like now he's directing or whatever else.
• 1:37:26
  And Ben Smith has been on team and owns his affiliate and.
• 1:37:30
  And he has individualized programming or his own program.
• 1:37:34
  All Ben, personality wise they don't agree, but I'll give you
• 1:37:36
  Ben Smith, OK, It is peak average white guy.
• 1:37:41
  That's that's thank you. Next up.
• 1:37:44
  Scott's to athletic to be Matt Damon.
• 1:37:48
  Jennifer Instant. She was more rowdy.
• 1:37:53
  I'd give her DB, but I don't think it's.
• 1:37:59
  That's tough. Who was?
• 1:38:01
  The hot girl. Tovar, Stacy.
• 1:38:07
  Tovar. Jackie Perez.
• 1:38:10
  If Jackie were more successful, I'd give it to her.
• 1:38:14
  No freak. You don't know Jackie Perez.
• 1:38:19
  Camille, Camille, Camille LeBlanc.
• 1:38:21
  It's Camille LeBlanc. It's like so, so hard.
• 1:38:25
  Camille LeBlanc that that on the money.
• 1:38:27
  Camille LeBlanc in her heyday, dude, it's everybody.
• 1:38:32
  Nobody didn't talk about her, right?
• 1:38:35
  Still good looking. Now, I don't know what this
• 1:38:41
  means, but I agree, James. Goon mode.
• 1:38:44
  I think Hobart's too old to use that word.
• 1:38:49
  I want them to use that on the CrossFit podcast and see how
• 1:38:51
  that goes. All right, Next up, Tom Hanks.
• 1:38:55
  Depends on how you feel about Tom Hanks.
• 1:38:58
  A lot of controversy around Tom Hanks.
• 1:38:59
  Is it? Is it young Tom Hanks or now Tom
• 1:39:01
  Hanks? Yeah, we're talking big Tom
• 1:39:04
  Hanks, or I think. This.
• 1:39:06
  Is castaway Tom Hanks I think. This is rich.
• 1:39:08
  I think this is. Rich No.
• 1:39:10
  No, I'm not giving Rich to Tom. Yeah, the comments are starting
• 1:39:15
  to get it, Valner. No, dude, Tom is one of the
• 1:39:21
  best. He's one of the greats.
• 1:39:23
  So is Pat. So is Karl Malone.
• 1:39:25
  You just got a lot more credit. Beloved at the beginning and not
• 1:39:29
  so much now. Why is he not beloved now?
• 1:39:31
  The. People who don't have don't have
• 1:39:34
  as much love for him as much. I would.
• 1:39:37
  Say stuff and all that. Yeah, I could.
• 1:39:40
  I could. I could rock with Lagowski.
• 1:39:43
  I feel like Brent's making a comeback though, like.
• 1:39:47
  Tom Hanks is always in the game, man.
• 1:39:50
  You know we going with the Brent.
• 1:39:52
  Yeah, I would say Fukowski. OK.
• 1:39:56
  Pat Pat is more funny. More funny.
• 1:40:01
  Brent's funny, dude. Yeah, but it's in a nerdy way.
• 1:40:04
  Yeah, Hanks is a nerd. No, I'm I'm saying Hanks fits
• 1:40:09
  Fukowski more than Velner. What movie would be better?
• 1:40:13
  I'm agreeing with you before you're trying to argue.
• 1:40:14
  We're casting Forrest Gump and you got to pick between Velner
• 1:40:18
  and Fukowski. Rukowski all day, all day.
• 1:40:22
  Castaway, Fukowski. Rukowski.
• 1:40:25
  OK, Fukowski is. Tom dude, if Velner wasn't
• 1:40:27
  castaway he would be like, well, I'm still on this island.
• 1:40:33
  If it castaway would be. There's, there's no, there's no
• 1:40:36
  bag of milk over here, eh, That's what egg.
• 1:40:40
  That's what that would be. Angelina Jolie.
• 1:40:46
  Danielle. No, not ethnic enough.
• 1:40:52
  What I think Danielle's are probably a good one.
• 1:40:57
  No, Jolie is not crazy enough. Didn't she and like Billy Bish's
• 1:41:04
  Thornton, like drinks? You better switch Swap blood.
• 1:41:07
  I mean, OK, early days, early days, Jolie, She was, she was
• 1:41:10
  going through some daddy issue stuff.
• 1:41:12
  Jon Voight. What?
• 1:41:13
  Working out. Angelina Jolie's been around,
• 1:41:16
  man. She was freaking Grendel and
• 1:41:18
  Beowulf. Yeah, but I mean, dude, what?
• 1:41:21
  Grendel's mom. Isn't her and Brad Pitt like
• 1:41:23
  going through crazy shit too? She adopted an African child.
• 1:41:29
  Julie Fouchier. That's a deep cut.
• 1:41:33
  That's. A deep.
• 1:41:34
  Cut. No, no, no.
• 1:41:36
  Enjoy. That one Hobart.
• 1:41:37
  I object I object Julie Fouchez. I don't think it's, I don't
• 1:41:42
  think that's enough. I don't I, I think Danielle is
• 1:41:44
  more than that, but. No, I think, I think I'm 100%
• 1:41:48
  correct actually. But John's not, even though
• 1:41:53
  she's not ethnic enough. They've got a Hattie.
• 1:41:57
  No, no, he's not. No.
• 1:41:59
  Who can just turn it on like they're they're just delivering.
• 1:42:04
  Hattie would be more of the bro type.
• 1:42:06
  In what way? If you're you're right, you're
• 1:42:08
  right, you're right spin, you're right, like.
• 1:42:11
  Cross fat nose. I'll get.
• 1:42:16
  I'll get. In trouble.
• 1:42:17
  I'll give. I'll give it to you.
• 1:42:18
  Julie Fouche it is I'll. Be getting a cease and desist.
• 1:42:21
  Too. No no.
• 1:42:23
  Julie Fouche all. Right, Next up, Tina Fey.
• 1:42:31
  OK. I'm a little out on Tina Fey.
• 1:42:33
  You have to carry the team here. I like Tina Fey.
• 1:42:36
  You don't like Tina Fey? I just don't watch any of her
• 1:42:38
  stuff but. OK, I'll.
• 1:42:39
  Give her Lowen. It's perfect dude.
• 1:42:48
  Super likeable. Very, very mom feel.
• 1:42:53
  Has Tina Fey ever not been a mom feel in a movie she's been in?
• 1:42:57
  She wasn't a mom in Mean Girls, but she was a teacher, so, you
• 1:43:01
  know, kind of. Oh Ariel's got teacher vibes
• 1:43:03
  for. Sure.
• 1:43:04
  No, she actually has a show, a movie called Baby Mama, where
• 1:43:07
  she can't be a mom and she hires somebody else to be a mom for
• 1:43:10
  her and then she lies about being pregnant and it's a whole
• 1:43:13
  ordeal. I will say this is pretty good.
• 1:43:15
  No, dude, Ariel all the way. All right, Ariel, Yeah.
• 1:43:19
  That's it. Will Smith.
• 1:43:23
  Jason Hopper. No.
• 1:43:35
  Oh. Man, they're watching.
• 1:43:36
  John. You can hear him in the
• 1:43:38
  background. Lionel Theophanidis.
• 1:43:43
  Leo Theophanidis. No.
• 1:43:47
  I'm trying to think just has anybody slapped anybody?
• 1:43:52
  You're going off the slap. You're not going off of Fresh
• 1:43:54
  Prince. All we can go off of.
• 1:43:57
  Fresh Prince I robot legend. Listen.
• 1:44:02
  Not for obvious reasons. I think this is Chandler Smith.
• 1:44:06
  Oh, I like James Sprague. I like James Sprague a lot.
• 1:44:09
  Dude Will has fallen off. James is at his peak.
• 1:44:14
  Will's always at his peak. No, no, he's not.
• 1:44:22
  No, he's not. How about this one, Adler?
• 1:44:27
  That's that's really difficult. I see where you're going with
• 1:44:30
  it, but Will has all the personality in the world and
• 1:44:34
  Adler has the personality of a deer that's been shot.
• 1:44:38
  He also tried to He was getting into it with Roman.
• 1:44:41
  He almost slapped him. I think Will Smith is Roman.
• 1:44:46
  Oh. You know what?
• 1:44:49
  Yeah, you like it? I'm.
• 1:44:49
  Going with it. You like it?
• 1:44:51
  Yeah, I'd I'd hang out with Will and I'd hang out with Roman.
• 1:44:54
  Yeah, dude, Roman's great. Summer agrees with me, but
• 1:44:57
  that's fine. I do think it's break.
• 1:45:00
  That was fun. That's.
• 1:45:00
  It. That's it.
• 1:45:04
  That was good. That was good.
• 1:45:05
  There you. Go.
• 1:45:09
  And the last but not least, we got 12 minutes guys.
• 1:45:14
  And so last week we talked about why the Europeans were dropping
• 1:45:18
  off Tyler Mount. What criteria?
• 1:45:23
  Can't be dumb if there's no criteria.
• 1:45:27
  That is true. We were talking about the the
• 1:45:30
  drop off in the open, especially in Europe.
• 1:45:33
  We asked for some comments as to why and I have some.
• 1:45:38
  Good, they're a. Little bit longer because they
• 1:45:41
  had to express themselves, but. Thank you for expressing
• 1:45:45
  yourself seriously. Yeah, first one's from at
• 1:45:49
  Abstract Genius comments. You know it's going to be good.
• 1:45:53
  This dude's such a hater. Not signing up?
• 1:45:57
  Oh, is this the abstract guy? Dude?
• 1:45:59
  Yeah, he's so trash. This.
• 1:46:01
  Is just never liked the very cliche US macho attitude
• 1:46:05
  surrounding CrossFit. The whole definition about what
• 1:46:08
  a real man is. Pickup trucks, guns out.
• 1:46:11
  I'm so proud to be a white American.
• 1:46:15
  Seems like one have to buy into all that to be accepted as a
• 1:46:19
  real Crossfitter. That lifestyle just rings bad
• 1:46:23
  with many Europeans and you guys, the whole Sivan posse have
• 1:46:29
  to admit that this is the train you're riding for a great part.
• 1:46:35
  Talking shit about every other way of to live life or view our
• 1:46:39
  sport. the US YouTube common community is what we see a lot
• 1:46:44
  of and the way you by default talk everything CrossFit Inc non
• 1:46:50
  affiliated into the ground is very excluded a lot.
• 1:46:53
  Sport is not a company to us. The history is that sports are
• 1:46:57
  financially very supported by the state City Council public
• 1:47:02
  funds. We want the sport, not your
• 1:47:05
  specific lifestyle choices. I think that's why many here
• 1:47:09
  turn to WFP. It's more sport, less licking
• 1:47:13
  Castro's boots. Just my 2 euro cent.
• 1:47:17
  So I want to, I love it when people try to infer that you're
• 1:47:20
  racist because you're white American.
• 1:47:24
  You've obviously never been to the South.
• 1:47:25
  Everything that you just expressed as white American is
• 1:47:28
  also loved by black people, Hispanic people.
• 1:47:32
  So you called yourself racist without even having to try.
• 1:47:37
  I, I can't like just turn us off.
• 1:47:47
  Yeah, You know, you don't have to watch us.
• 1:47:49
  A real man just watches. Woody wants, unless his wife,
• 1:47:56
  regardless of culture, unless his wife is watching something
• 1:47:59
  and then he watches. He probably watch.
• 1:48:01
  He's watching, he probably wants to watch.
• 1:48:02
  That's all fine. We do have a very high
• 1:48:05
  viewership of the women comparatively to other channels.
• 1:48:09
  Yeah, look, this is the spin, OK?
• 1:48:13
  We're we're spinnies. That's right.
• 1:48:16
  Get it right? The the other thing is it's
• 1:48:19
  like, I don't think we've ever hated on other, like not really
• 1:48:23
  ever hated on other cultures like of Japanese.
• 1:48:27
  Gold. I didn't know the.
• 1:48:28
  Navy and culture, the worst culture we've ever hated on with
• 1:48:30
  strong women and and and I literally make my living making
• 1:48:37
  women strong. Not not like that, but you know.
• 1:48:41
  A different strong. And a healthy way, yeah.
• 1:48:45
  Let's see at Scottish G. To be fair, CrossFit HQ isn't
• 1:48:50
  helping themselves to increase participation outside of the US.
• 1:48:54
  At a time when the government U.S. government is talking about
• 1:48:57
  using the US military to invade a European nation, being
• 1:49:01
  sponsored by the US military isn't going to play.
• 1:49:05
  I'm still signed up, but I would love to see the stats for
• 1:49:09
  signups out of Denmark. I can pull that.
• 1:49:16
  I want to. I want to.
• 1:49:19
  I do remember saying this. I just would like to say.
• 1:49:29
  Sorry. Nobody ever answered me, so
• 1:49:35
  that's it. Yeah, I don't what was what was
• 1:49:40
  the sentiment of that bit again? Sorry I lost.
• 1:49:42
  Basically the US military is bad so Europeans don't like.
• 1:49:47
  I can't get my head wrapped around.
• 1:49:49
  I can't find a good philosophical way to attack that
• 1:49:53
  that situation. I understand why that upsets
• 1:49:55
  other people. Why we're American.
• 1:50:00
  No that. About Trump talking about taking
• 1:50:02
  over Greenland. Not that them sponsoring the
• 1:50:07
  games, Air Patrol and and the Border Patrol.
• 1:50:11
  I understand. I, I mean, maybe it upsets more
• 1:50:14
  Americans than I really, you know, maybe they don't talk
• 1:50:19
  about it enough or whatever. We're, it seems weird from an
• 1:50:24
  American point of view because we are patriotic and like that
• 1:50:28
  we divorce the president from even the arms of the military
• 1:50:34
  and all that stuff. So we're supportive of our
• 1:50:37
  military and our armed forces. And so it is weird for, I think
• 1:50:42
  you guys loop anybody from Europe loops all that in
• 1:50:44
  together. It's like, you know, you're
• 1:50:47
  playing politics and like Trump's skin control, I can't
• 1:50:50
  believe you support Trump. And it's like it's, it's more
• 1:50:52
  nuanced than that. I look at it differently.
• 1:50:54
  I think I have, I think everybody has it backwards.
• 1:50:57
  OK. The, the, the military divisions
• 1:51:03
  that are, that are sponsoring the CrossFit Games are doing it
• 1:51:06
  to attract Crossfitters because that is the best group of people
• 1:51:12
  to join the military. CrossFit is not paying them.
• 1:51:18
  The military is paying CrossFit to attract people that do
• 1:51:22
  CrossFit. And if you want military people,
• 1:51:26
  that's the that's the subsection you want.
• 1:51:29
  It's a recruiting tool. Right, they're getting CrossFit.
• 1:51:33
  Used to recruit military people and now it's being flipped
• 1:51:36
  around. Right.
• 1:51:37
  Everybody has it backwards at Daniel Taylor.
• 1:51:40
  I'm based in the UK and I did the Open last year and got a lot
• 1:51:43
  of questions for it. I think the reason is twofold.
• 1:51:46
  Lazar 1 and the second is the media side.
• 1:51:50
  Except for Pedro at coffee pods and wads.
• 1:51:53
  Shout out Pedro. All other channels stopped
• 1:51:56
  covering the games. The perfect explanation of this
• 1:51:59
  is Craig Ritchie. Oh, they don't have any media
• 1:52:02
  representation over there. Oh, they're none of their media
• 1:52:06
  is covering the games, therefore they have less.
• 1:52:09
  Open side, I mean, think about all of the podcasts that you
• 1:52:12
  hear about that like that I've translated or whatever.
• 1:52:16
  It's always talking about World Fitness Project.
• 1:52:18
  It's never in a positive light of the CrossFit Games, generally
• 1:52:21
  speaking. Why do you think that is?
• 1:52:25
  I'm reading all the other reasons like he.
• 1:52:28
  He's reading the reasons right now.
• 1:52:30
  Reading. The reasons why they've all kind
• 1:52:31
  of, they're the same as everybody else.
• 1:52:33
  It's just that they don't have, and Daniel's belief is that they
• 1:52:39
  don't have media. People that are watching it are
• 1:52:43
  being influenced by people. Who say?
• 1:52:46
  I I don't think this is good. I'm bad.
• 1:52:48
  I can't do it. I'm out.
• 1:52:49
  OK, All right. That makes sense.
• 1:52:51
  That's what I've been listening to.
• 1:52:52
  All right, I'm gonna go that way too.
• 1:52:54
  My response to that would be that that is, that is.
• 1:53:01
  CF Media is now a Grid podcast. Dude he even flew over here for
• 1:53:05
  a grid thing and he changed. Jason, Yeah.
• 1:53:09
  Worst suit the whole plane ride. I can't.
• 1:53:11
  Believe. The plane ride, he.
• 1:53:14
  Just stays in the suit all the time.
• 1:53:16
  He doesn't leave it. He is.
• 1:53:18
  He's got a sleeping suit, a travel suit and then a podcast
• 1:53:21
  suit. Sleep.
• 1:53:23
  It's all the same. Listen, the Internet is free,
• 1:53:26
  man. Like, like you.
• 1:53:29
  Just those are podcasts. You can watch us anytime you
• 1:53:33
  want. It doesn't matter where you are.
• 1:53:35
  That's more of what I'm asking. Like there's no, there's that,
• 1:53:38
  that that barrier to entry is not there, right?
• 1:53:41
  So where is the barrier to entry for the Europeans?
• 1:53:44
  Why are they not like they can come in and, and then like, you
• 1:53:47
  know, Craig leaving for his own reasons or or whoever?
• 1:53:51
  Why are they not entering it? And the other thing is like,
• 1:53:55
  they'd probably stay in if they were more popular.
• 1:54:00
  Yeah. I mean, I think the, I think the
• 1:54:01
  more point is that those that there are that have been around
• 1:54:04
  or the ones that are producing content are of the less CrossFit
• 1:54:09
  sentiment, anti CrossFit sentiment.
• 1:54:11
  Like Craig's pretty much walked away from it.
• 1:54:14
  That was fairly public. But then what is the RX insider
• 1:54:18
  guy argued with you and one of the comments about how people
• 1:54:23
  thought about whatever world fitness project or the schedule
• 1:54:26
  coming out and like it was completely flipped from what
• 1:54:30
  that is. So like he's putting out WFP
• 1:54:33
  content. You have some of those that
• 1:54:35
  Rodgers been on, Brian's been on, like the whole sentiment is
• 1:54:40
  completely opposite of what? Dude, do you think, do you think
• 1:54:44
  they look at Brian the way we look at Pedro?
• 1:54:49
  To elaborate. Like they stole one of ours.
• 1:54:55
  I don't like Brian I, I think, but I think.
• 1:54:57
  I know we don't, but I don't think you.
• 1:54:59
  Explained that well, but I think yes.
• 1:55:03
  I I like. I wonder if they look at Peter
• 1:55:06
  the way we look at. Brian Pedro's our European
• 1:55:08
  correspondent and Brian is their American correspondent, right?
• 1:55:13
  But they, you know, I wonder if they think Peter's abandoned
• 1:55:17
  Europe. Maybe that's.
• 1:55:20
  Why you can't get the 10,000 subscribers?
• 1:55:24
  I also what, what what do we mean by this son?
• 1:55:29
  Sean is a shrinker. I don't know what he means what
• 1:55:31
  he means. I you'd go more in depth into
• 1:55:34
  what that means. A real man would not be offended
• 1:55:38
  by that very. Honest, I'm just, I don't.
• 1:55:41
  It is ominous, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:55:45
  Lido Callagiani, she was, she participated in the the Barbell
• 1:55:50
  Spin hashtag last year. And if you guys have not, make
• 1:55:53
  sure you go into your competition dashboard and sign
• 1:55:57
  up. One of our many Italians.
• 1:55:59
  We're over. We're over 400.
• 1:56:00
  I think so we're we're moving on up.
• 1:56:03
  Let's see. A lot of European fallout I
• 1:56:05
  believe was due to local media too that turned hard on
• 1:56:08
  CrossFit. I live in the UK but follow
• 1:56:10
  CrossFit media from Italy and Greece and it was largely very
• 1:56:12
  negative. I believe the same of many other
• 1:56:15
  countries. If you supported CrossFit, you
• 1:56:18
  basically felt you felt basically in the minority.
• 1:56:22
  Once a Jim de affiliates, of course fewer people from there
• 1:56:24
  are going to do the Open. So all of this, as you
• 1:56:27
  mentioned, Europeans felt slighted and did not see heads
• 1:56:30
  fall in CrossFit or generally any consequences for the ones
• 1:56:34
  they considered responsible. I wonder if it's also a language
• 1:56:41
  thing that every country has a different language over there.
• 1:56:47
  You're not going to get as many viewers.
• 1:56:49
  I could see some of that. I could see some of that like,
• 1:56:53
  so I'm trying to like cover some of the qualifiers that are
• 1:56:58
  starting up early and the Lat Am masters.
• 1:57:02
  Do you know how hard it is to figure out what they're doing
• 1:57:04
  because they're not super clear on all of their qualifications
• 1:57:08
  and how many they're taking and all this stuff on top of it
• 1:57:11
  being in Spanish, right? So I'm trying to translate it
• 1:57:15
  and it's like not perfectly translated in whatever Google it
• 1:57:17
  is that tries to translate it. And you're like, what am I
• 1:57:20
  looking at? And then you try to go to a post
• 1:57:22
  and it's a picture, not like the caption doesn't fully translate.
• 1:57:26
  And you know, there's stuff on the picture that you're like, I
• 1:57:28
  can just read that. And I don't want to go through
• 1:57:30
  all the mess of translating it with like pictures and stuff.
• 1:57:32
  It's just a headache to try to do it.
• 1:57:34
  How many people are not going to try to do that?
• 1:57:36
  So like how many people in France or Spain or wherever,
• 1:57:43
  Germany, it's all in English. You haven't.
• 1:57:48
  If you aren't bilingual then that doesn't come across as
• 1:57:53
  well. I I do get the sentiment of how
• 1:57:57
  people could be sick of. Yes, but cross that yes.
• 1:58:07
  Like pro America, like I, I, I understand how it would be
• 1:58:13
  annoying to to them because we're the best and.
• 1:58:21
  I knew there was a catch. I, I mean, Lucy Campbell's about
• 1:58:26
  to win the game. So I, I, but I, I just, you
• 1:58:29
  know, America is so proud to be America.
• 1:58:32
  Well, half of us are. But the, the half like, like,
• 1:58:38
  and I think that if people get annoyed with that proudness and
• 1:58:45
  I, I, I understand people getting annoyed with that
• 1:58:48
  proudness, it's not going to change.
• 1:58:50
  But I I get it is all I'm saying.
• 1:58:52
  I think, I think it'd be interesting though, if like
• 1:58:54
  something I think I heard your theory about, you know, the
• 1:58:57
  daughters really brought attraction to Europe.
• 1:59:02
  If Lucy wins does that. Boost it sway anything.
• 1:59:06
  I think it I think it will, but I but maybe maybe it won't like
• 1:59:12
  I I might be in the wrong on that.
• 1:59:13
  I just, I just, I think the games is more pool than people
• 1:59:17
  than people think. Yeah, and and she, I mean, if
• 1:59:21
  she wins it and goes on media tours, especially local media
• 1:59:25
  and stuff like she's going to present very well.
• 1:59:28
  Great. Like, Lucy's great, and she's
• 1:59:30
  going to present CrossFit well. Yes, yeah.
• 1:59:33
  And she's going to talk about everything.
• 1:59:35
  She's gone. I mean, yeah, she'll do all, all
• 1:59:38
  the interviews. She'll speak well.
• 1:59:40
  She'll support CrossFit. Like it it.
• 1:59:42
  It can't hurt. And it'll take the heat off of
• 1:59:45
  James because people will hate him.
• 1:59:47
  Remember Me when you're famous, Lucy.
• 1:59:50
  Last one actually, Lucy was Lucy got her start on the broadcast
• 1:59:55
  on our show. Yeah, yeah, Lucy, everything
• 1:59:58
  you've got 2 of. The pre and post shows in 20230.
• 2:00:02
  I remember that. You just remember that, Lucy,
• 2:00:04
  everything that you've ever gotten is because of us.
• 2:00:07
  That's right, last one. I I was the first one to call
• 2:00:12
  her to do well, I just it just that is true.
• 2:00:15
  Oh I we should have brought this up.
• 2:00:17
  Brian Friend is responsible for John and I existing.
• 2:00:21
  No, don't be. We can't.
• 2:00:23
  Let a show go by without reminding people that.
• 2:00:27
  Don't be bitter about it. We're not going to.
• 2:00:31
  We're not. We're not going to do that.
• 2:00:32
  You're lumped in there with helping.
• 2:00:33
  OK All right. Michelle Barakat.
• 2:00:36
  Don't do that either. Now I want to talk about it.
• 2:00:40
  All right, we're we're going to talk to Michelle Barakat.
• 2:00:43
  I've last one. I've been in my affiliate in
• 2:00:45
  Paris for five years now. This is a good story.
• 2:00:48
  The sport is still growing fast here.
• 2:00:50
  They are about to open the biggest CrossFit box in Paris in
• 2:00:53
  a few weeks. The old one is staying as well.
• 2:00:57
  Just feels like home, man. There's a huge community.
• 2:01:00
  But yeah, last year open registration was at its lowest
• 2:01:04
  due to the Lazar thing. 80% boycotted.
• 2:01:08
  However, I think that this year it will go back to normal as the
• 2:01:12
  Open is really a huge event at our box 200 plus participants.
• 2:01:19
  Speaking of that, I have some stats for you for the Open
• 2:01:25
  registration. Open Updates.
• 2:01:27
  Open Updates As of this morning, we had 40,109 open
• 2:01:33
  registrations. That's crazy.
• 2:01:35
  I've heard that's double where we were last year at this time
• 2:01:40
  last year at the same same period, 21,874, so 84% increase
• 2:01:45
  over last year. We have 119% versus 2025 first
• 2:01:53
  timers. So new people are signing up.
• 2:01:55
  That new people thinks that is the craziest.
• 2:01:58
  Stuff at this same time last year.
• 2:02:03
  Who's your guy? I have people.
• 2:02:06
  Don't wear product. Returning athletes plus 72% in
• 2:02:11
  2025. Very good 2024 quarterfinalists
• 2:02:18
  returning 455 of them. Traffic to the sites up 44%.
• 2:02:26
  Social sentiments up 853% over last.
• 2:02:29
  Year. How are they rating?
• 2:02:30
  That impressions. It's it's, it's when they search
• 2:02:33
  like the social media stuff and like whether it's like spoken
• 2:02:37
  about positively or negatively. That's.
• 2:02:41
  Now I have a question. So how many open registrants
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  were there last year total? 253,000. 235,000.
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  Yeah, Yep. Sorry, dyslexia.
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  So we're on pace for 400,000. If the 84 pace, the 84%
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  continues the trend, we're on pace for 400,000.
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  Crushing it. Tyler's page, you said?
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  Lower I'm saying I'm taking it under a 400,000.
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  That it's going to be over 200 and that's for sure.
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  That is true. I think however many people are
• 2:03:17
  over 200,000. Tyler has to do a calorie on a
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  machine. Over what time periods?
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  And John will do 33 ring muscle ups for every.
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  Person, how about this? How about this?
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  How about this? How is meters?
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  We'll do meters. Tyler has to bike however many
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  meters. Over 200.
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  Over 200,000. I want to do something more fun
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  than biking. There's only so much you could.
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  Do ring muscle off. It's gonna, it's gonna be
• 2:03:46
  100,000, so at least 100,000. It's gonna be 100 to 200,000.
• 2:03:51
  So I I was trying to pick the. Calories don't work.
• 2:03:54
  That would be rough. Calories don't work.
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  Meter meters is the only thing that's that's gonna be OK.
• 2:04:01
  And not running. No, I won't.
• 2:04:04
  I will do something, but we're going to negotiate what it is
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  because I don't like, I just don't want to sit on a bike that
• 2:04:10
  long. I think we should figure it out
• 2:04:11
  right now. Out of boredom.
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  I've done it before. It's not that bad.
• 2:04:16
  You can watch movies, you can watch movies.
• 2:04:19
  It'll. Be a Long Life live stream.
• 2:04:22
  What about minutes? Hell, holding a plank.
• 2:04:25
  No. What about seconds holding a
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  plank? No.
• 2:04:33
  What do you what do you think span what can be 200,000?
• 2:04:40
  Well, I think I'm thinking about 100,000.
• 2:04:44
  You think it's over? It's so it's 300.
• 2:04:46
  I think I think 300,000 is in is in range.
• 2:04:49
  What? OK.
• 2:04:50
  Do you just want to say total meters across any machine?
• 2:04:55
  I would consider that over a bike, yeah, 'cause then at least
• 2:04:58
  I could do different stuff. C2 bikes, way easier to back up.
• 2:05:03
  The seats you will get them the fastest on a yeah on a bike.
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  But I eventually I'm just. Going to be like a rower's half
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  as long. Dude it's do you know how long
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  100,000 meters it takes? On a bike, Yeah.
• 2:05:16
  How long? 4 hours.
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  But that's four hours. And you're and you're going to
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  have double that. Yeah. 8 hours stationary.
• 2:05:27
  Oh, and that's on the bike. Yeah.
• 2:05:32
  I would still almost prefer doing.
• 2:05:33
  If you get the rogue echo ski you could do it.
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  That would be fun A. 150,000 meters ski.
• 2:05:40
  He just could grieve dude. He's get Rabdo or something for
• 2:05:45
  sure. Was it, was it Con Porter?
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  He did a marathon ski? Yeah, I've done a, I've done a,
• 2:05:52
  I've done 1/2 marathon ski. It's three of those, that's
• 2:05:55
  what. How bad is that?
• 2:05:56
  Huh. How bad was that?
• 2:05:59
  It's pretty brutal. You got to zone out because
• 2:06:01
  you're just yeah, yeah. Like I think I think Khan threw
• 2:06:05
  up because of just the the Vertigo.
• 2:06:08
  Up and down. We'll figure out like we'll what
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  we'll do is we'll come up with like calories per double unders,
• 2:06:20
  double unders. We'll we'll figure out.
• 2:06:23
  Calves of steel. Calves of steel.
• 2:06:29
  I kind of. Like like giving a cow or a a
• 2:06:36
  cow worth so like like one cow ski is worth 5.
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  And that way it's like if I could do.
• 2:06:41
  Murph one cow row is worth 31, cow bike is worth 1.
• 2:06:46
  And then and then we just figure out however many make the
• 2:06:49
  people. I was going to expand outside of
• 2:06:52
  that, like like if I could do Murph, but it was like just
• 2:06:54
  ridiculous. Like you're just going to do
• 2:06:56
  Murph for 8 hours? You want to do that?
• 2:06:59
  Repeat. Yeah, but I want to figure out
• 2:07:01
  some way to systemize. It Hitler's going to hate you,
• 2:07:07
  what about Atlanta for 8 hours? That would be fun to like.
• 2:07:10
  An hour. An hour for every 10,000 you're
• 2:07:12
  off. A Murph for a Murph for every
• 2:07:17
  out. A 10,000 You're off.
• 2:07:19
  It's going to be 10 Murphs. And I just have to do it so
• 2:07:23
  because what I want to do is I want to do it in one day like I
• 2:07:26
  wanted, like I just. You're.
• 2:07:28
  Going to be more effed up than I've been effed up.
• 2:07:33
  But what about because I'm? Snatching John, are you?
• 2:07:40
  Are you snatching again? Dude, I'm great.
• 2:07:41
  I'm 100% healed there. You go.
• 2:07:46
  I wonder what the world record of Murphs in a day is.
• 2:07:49
  The guy did it. The guy did it.
• 2:07:53
  The guy that Hitler, The guy that Andrew made a video about?
• 2:08:00
  Oh yeah, I don't remember how many that was.
• 2:08:04
  He he said he's. But he cheat though, no?
• 2:08:07
  No, no. He said he's going to do
• 2:08:08
  whatever, but and then Hitler, like, really criticized him that
• 2:08:12
  that's not what Murphy's about. And then all of his comments got
• 2:08:15
  flooded like really, really badly and then got the guy ended
• 2:08:19
  up doing like 12 1/2 Murphs in a day and gets crucified in the
• 2:08:24
  comments. It was like the biggest way says
• 2:08:26
  I felt bad for him because like, even if it's like for selfish
• 2:08:29
  reasons, that's so much stuff for just every comment to be
• 2:08:35
  like you suck, you're a terrible person.
• 2:08:39
  You know what I mean? Like that's it's I felt bad for
• 2:08:41
  him. But anyway.
• 2:08:45
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• 2:09:31
  I am going to do, I'm going to do the the one up to 1095, but
• 2:09:37
  I'm going to do 1 to 6 and back down and I I just want to see
• 2:09:42
  how long I can do it. I bet you make it one time.
• 2:09:47
  Maybe there's a guy, there's a guy doing this.
• 2:09:51
  I saw, I saw. But like, he's just like,
• 2:09:54
  failing. Yeah, but I mean like he's going
• 2:09:57
  for it. He's been adding reps a week and
• 2:09:59
  I like, I just like it. I think it's awesome.
• 2:10:03
  Props to him. I think he needs to do like
• 2:10:04
  toast the bar. He's been doing pull ups.
• 2:10:08
  OK, the you can probably do a pull ups, the one to six, back
• 2:10:14
  down to 1, back up to 6. Back down to 1.
• 2:10:19
  I think you can make it through 2.
• 2:10:21
  OK. 2 rounds, 2 up and downs. I think the second round of 6
• 2:10:27
  gets. How many is that?
• 2:10:28
  How many is that total? 61.
• 2:10:31
  Be 21, another 15 is 36 is up and down.
• 2:10:36
  Yeah, Oh, 36 is up and down South. 72 would be up and down
• 2:10:39
  twice. Yeah.
• 2:10:41
  It'd get hairy. It'd get hairy on that last 6 I
• 2:10:43
  think. Around the 50 mark you start
• 2:10:48
  freaking out, especially when you're out, especially.
• 2:10:50
  When you're doing one a minute or six a minute.
• 2:10:53
  Yeah, 'cause I didn't. It's only, it's only you're
• 2:10:56
  doing that many in 22 minutes. Yeah, you.
• 2:10:59
  Come back down to that three, though, that 456 back down to 4
• 2:11:04
  is going to suck. But then you get to 3 and you're
• 2:11:06
  like, dude, I got to have forever.
• 2:11:09
  Dude I didn't I did 4 every 30 seconds and and after like 8
• 2:11:14
  sets I'm done. I was done and then two felt
• 2:11:19
  beautiful. Watch me get somewhere crazy and
• 2:11:21
  be like, I have to just keep it. Like I can't keep the reps, but
• 2:11:24
  then I just keep going and do the hundred 216.
• 2:11:30
  Yeah, film it. Yeah, film it.
• 2:11:32
  I'll watch it. I'll watch it, yeah.
• 2:11:35
  All right, guys. We'll see you guys next week.
• 2:11:39
  I apologize to absolutely nobody did.