Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Nigerian Customer Service Playbook: From Problem to Resolution
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- 0:00Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Ayedi.
- 0:04I'm the host of the podcast and I'm making today's recording at
- 0:07an undisclosed location in Abuja.
- 0:10So I expect to hear some noise in the background.
- 0:12Now, the goal of this podcast is business problems, you know,
- 0:15with customer acquisition, marketing, side hustles, you
- 0:18know, whatever it is that is holding your business back.
- 0:20So if you are curious about these sorts of issues, then this
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- 0:29And if you'd love to connect, you can call SMS or WhatsApp me
- 0:32on 08064662140. OK, let me just spill the beans.
- 0:41I'm actually in Utako right now. Now for those of you who live in
- 0:44Abuja, I know that is a very busy commercial district, you
- 0:47know, markets, logistics companies, you know, stuff like
- 0:49that. And the reason why I'm here is
- 0:51because I came to pick up an order and let's put it this way,
- 0:57for those of us who are in business, lots of times you
- 1:00don't look at things from the customer's point of view.
- 1:02And that's one of the reasons why we give bad customer where
- 1:07we have bad customer service processes or we don't even have
- 1:11any customer service processes at all, in fact.
- 1:14So I say, I'll say that's what today's episode is about, the
- 1:18proper way to approach customer service.
- 1:21Now the reason why I'm thinking about that today is because over
- 1:24a month ago, my wife placed an order on Instagram and it was a
- 1:28dress that she was looking forward to.
- 1:30And you know, like some of these things that you trust the
- 1:32vendor, you send the money. And then one day my wife just
- 1:35woke up and realized that it's been a while, it's been like 2
- 1:37weeks. I haven't heard from this
- 1:38person. So she now buzz the lady to find
- 1:41out how far, like how far would the delivery now, you know,
- 1:44order number, order number, the location for pickup and all
- 1:50these sorts of things. And there was no response and,
- 1:54and another two weeks afterwards, you know, my wife
- 1:56now thought, look, this thing is, is now is now becoming
- 2:00somehow. So she kept trying to reach the
- 2:02lady and no response, nothing was happening.
- 2:05So I noticed that of course she was upset about the whole thing.
- 2:08So I took the phone number and then I tried calling the lady,
- 2:12no response. You know, I sent a message.
- 2:14And so just like with my wife, you know, no response basically.
- 2:20But of course, the usual thing she had all those automated
- 2:23response WhatsApp messages, you know, the one that you guys put
- 2:26up on your phones to show that you value the person's business.
- 2:29You're busy right now, we'll get back to you.
- 2:31All this automated BS. And you see, these are part of
- 2:34the reasons why I say you guys mean we're well, when you put
- 2:37automated messages on your WhatsApp channels, your WhatsApp
- 2:41my business channel, but you're better off not putting those
- 2:44messages at all and rather just doing your best to be responsive
- 2:47to customers. Because actually when people
- 2:50have a problem or they're trying desperately to reach reach your
- 2:53business, it actually is very frustrating to send a message to
- 2:56someone and then automated message saying, you know, your
- 2:58business is important to us. Another automated message saying
- 3:02we're busy right now, we'll get back to you when possible.
- 3:05And then automated message upon automated message.
- 3:08So just turn those things off in my own opinion, and then be
- 3:10responsive. Or if you must put an automated
- 3:13response message, let it be something like, sorry, we can't
- 3:16come to the phone right now. If it is an emergency, call
- 3:20Chukudi on so, so, so and so or call Janet on so, so, so and so.
- 3:24I think that's a much more useful prompts to have so that
- 3:28if it indeed is an emergency, you know, like in my wife's
- 3:31case, you know, she thinks it's an emergency, There's someone
- 3:33she can call and she can't talk to to say how far our place is.
- 3:37Order over a month ago. And then for those of you who
- 3:43sell things that involve physical delivery, it will be a
- 3:46good idea if you actually have some standard processes in place
- 3:50just to notify people what's up, let them know how things are
- 3:53going. So back to my wedding
- 3:54photography days. For me, this was standard, you
- 3:57know, when the book was being designed.
- 3:59I'll send the bride a text message, you know, hope you're
- 4:03enjoying your honeymoon, you know, hey Logger, you guys have
- 4:05fun. We started book design today.
- 4:08I'll update you in another couple of days.
- 4:10When book design is done, I'll send them another message.
- 4:13Book design is done. The next step is while going
- 4:15into production, production to take three to five days.
- 4:18I'll let you know also when book production is done, when
- 4:22everything is done and everything is ready for
- 4:24delivery, I'll send them a text message.
- 4:26You know, everything is done. Are you guys back in Abuja yet?
- 4:30OK, cool. I'm going to be delivering it
- 4:32myself. Where would you like me to
- 4:34deliver it to? We agree on the time and
- 4:36everything, but you see that I'll be updating people every
- 4:39single step of the way. This is the kind of thing that
- 4:41keeps our customers calm. I keep our customers cool.
- 4:44And just like I was saying in yesterday's episode, it's one of
- 4:47these things that make people think like this person is a real
- 4:50professional. And these are the things that
- 4:52make it easy for people to now refer you.
- 4:56But then let's contrast it now with this case that, you know,
- 4:59my wife has just experienced. See, I'm not doing this, you
- 5:03know, to shame any, anybody's business.
- 5:05In fact, I'm not mentioning the lady's business name.
- 5:08I'm just, I just think that this is a case where we can learn
- 5:11lots of valid lessons about how to handle customer service
- 5:16issues and how to carefully craft the user experience, you
- 5:20know, or UX as people like to call it these days, carefully
- 5:22craft user experience. So every single business that
- 5:26involves physical deliverables, you should be on top of the game
- 5:29when it comes to these things. Thank you very much for the
- 5:32order. The money has been received.
- 5:34Your order is now in processing. Your order has been processed.
- 5:37It is now at GBO port in Lagos, is going to be shipped off in
- 5:42another 24 hours. Order has been shipped off, is
- 5:45now on his way to transit. It's going to be in Abuja in
- 5:47another 24 hours. Order has arrived in Abuja, is
- 5:50currently in processing. Somebody should call you within
- 5:53another 24 hours. Order has been processed.
- 5:55Expect somebody to call you within 3-4 hours today.
- 6:02And then when on your own and then I'll tell you that they've
- 6:04delivered the thing. Somebody should also make a
- 6:07call. Madam, we received a call from
- 6:10the logistics provider that this thing has been delivered.
- 6:13I'm just calling to confirm that you received your package.
- 6:15Madam, have you received your package?
- 6:18Is everything in one piece? We hope you love your order.
- 6:21Can you please give us a five star on Google?
- 6:24But I really appreciate your business.
- 6:26Is there any other person that you can refer us to who would
- 6:28love XYZ kind of service as well?
- 6:31Thank you very much Ma. Looking forward to more of your
- 6:33patronage then you now go and put the customer back in
- 6:37relationship nurturing sequence. You know, as per our birthdays,
- 6:40New Year, happy Salah, happy Christmas and all those things,
- 6:43all those automated messages. So this is how this is how this
- 6:47is how it should be done. We shouldn't always leave our
- 6:52customers all angst driven, you know, to the point of pulling
- 6:57the hair out, you know, wondering has my payment been
- 7:00received, Has my order been confirmed?
- 7:02Has the thing been sent? Is it now in Abuja?
- 7:04Where is the thing? Who am I supposed to call?
- 7:07What is the order number? As sales people and as business
- 7:11professionals, we are the one who should be taking the
- 7:13initiative on these sorts of things.
- 7:16Now, of course, when my wife told me about this thing, I'm
- 7:18trying to reach out to the woman, you know, as per
- 7:21experience Decor, you know, as per me, I'm a business person,
- 7:23woman is a business person. So my wife is angry.
- 7:26But you know, from one business person to another, I know how
- 7:28these things can be. Now as per things happen, So I
- 7:31just wanted to call her and then just have a chat.
- 7:33And then the lady of course is had a very, you know, effort
- 7:36kind of attitude. So I just told my wife, you know
- 7:39what, let's just flashy this thing.
- 7:41You know, how much was it? You know, the money was plenty
- 7:43sure, but let's just flashy this thing and I just reported the
- 7:47Instagram handle and of course wifey reported the Instagram
- 7:50handle as well. I see this is the problem with
- 7:53Nigerian businesses. Now that we have reported the
- 7:56Instagram handle, I'm sure that they have received notice on the
- 7:59other end. So that's how today, now their
- 8:01body is vibrating and they're reaching out to us that oh,
- 8:05somebody has the thing was delivered over a month ago.
- 8:09Somebody has been calling, no number was picked.
- 8:11You know, something, something, something.
- 8:13Anyway, physically I was able to get in touch with someone,
- 8:17excuse me, confirm the logistics company.
- 8:21I went there and you know what, it's a very simple something was
- 8:25a wrong phone number. The lady who sent the
- 8:28consignment, the business person should put a phone, wrong phone
- 8:31number just by 1 digit. And these are simple mistakes
- 8:34that happen. But because this lady doesn't
- 8:37have processes and systems around customer service, there
- 8:40was no way that this thing was going to be discovered and to be
- 8:43flagged. Because this is the kind of
- 8:46thing that if you actually have paid for logistics, sorry for
- 8:49delivery, you should be checking up on the company.
- 8:53How far have you delivered? It's not just enough that you've
- 8:56collected money. You should confirm that the
- 8:58delivery has gotten to the end consumer has gotten to the final
- 9:01consumer and processes should have been in place.
- 9:04There should be somebody in the office who is a customer service
- 9:07officer or you know, I don't know, receptionist, somebody
- 9:11whose job it is to trace these sorts of things.
- 9:13And then logistics companies that you use, please use
- 9:17reputable logistics companies for your business.
- 9:20Use the kind of logistics business that will call you back
- 9:23to say how far this phone number you gave us.
- 9:26We have been trying the person all day.
- 9:28Nobody has come. It's like two or three days, you
- 9:30know how far what's going on? We leave this thing in the shop
- 9:33or should we send it back to you in Lagos.
- 9:36So also make sure you're using reputable logistics outfits as
- 9:41well, because I'm surprised that the comp, well, at first I was
- 9:44surprised that the company didn't do that.
- 9:47But then when they told us where it was in the Taco, and because
- 9:50I'm familiar with Taco because back when we were a newly
- 9:53married couple living in Zone 4, that's where we used to come and
- 9:58do all our market runs for for the week.
- 10:01So when I got there, it turned out to be, how do I put it?
- 10:05You understand now one of these logistics companies, you get
- 10:08like, it's just one desk and one room and no fan, no AC, no
- 10:13lights, no nothing. Everything is just there
- 10:16gathered on the floor. You understand the kind of
- 10:19company I'm talking about. So of course, those people too
- 10:22don't even have their own customer service.
- 10:24Customer service game on point. So this was a very, very simple,
- 10:28negligible issue that could have been resolved a long time ago if
- 10:31people just had systems around customer service issues or just
- 10:35some simple business systems period.
- 10:38As a logistics company, if somebody gives us goods, but the
- 10:41goods stay in the office for like 2 days, nobody has come,
- 10:44what should we do? How do we track the person we're
- 10:47supposed to deliver to? If we can't track the person,
- 10:50what is the process for returning back to sender so that
- 10:53we don't have liability for these sorts of things?
- 10:56Because think about it as a logistics company, it's possible
- 11:00you might receive something, you're keeping it.
- 11:02Nobody has come, the item spoiled, eventually they figure
- 11:05it out. The person who Lagos will say,
- 11:07look, it's not my responsibility, I give it to
- 11:09you, logistics company, logistics company will be saying
- 11:12but it's not my responsibility. Excuse me, I tried calling the
- 11:16the person was supposed to pick up, nobody came.
- 11:19It's not my responsibility that the thing spoiled.
- 11:22I know that this is Nigel. Who do you think the person will
- 11:25hang the person will hold. They can't go all the way to
- 11:28Lagos and Jack somebody do Jack you here the logistic company
- 11:31because they can see you face to face.
- 11:32Now you're very before. So even for those of you who run
- 11:35logistics outfits, you need to be thinking about these sorts of
- 11:38things. But the sad thing is, excuse me,
- 11:42now we've reported this lady's Instagram handle to Instagram
- 11:48handle to Instagram, regrettably, because to be
- 11:51honest, I regret that I that I've done that, you know, on top
- 11:55of a very small issue like this, excuse me, that one phone number
- 12:00was wrong. But really the lady went about
- 12:03it the wrong way. And now I hope you guys can see
- 12:06the reason why I keep advocating over here on the podcast that if
- 12:08one of the ways that you can stand out as a Nigerian service
- 12:11provider is when you start taking response, when you all, I
- 12:16put it, this is the attitude that I advocate over here on the
- 12:19podcast. And people who have tried it
- 12:21before, they're always shocked because believe me, it calms
- 12:24everybody down. No matter what the problem is,
- 12:26it calms everybody down because Nigerians are not used to being
- 12:29spoken to that way. So first of all, you say, Madam,
- 12:34I'm terribly sorry that you have not received our order.
- 12:37You have not received your order.
- 12:40This is not how we like to do business, Ma.
- 12:41I'm terribly sorry about that. My name is Nikeshi.
- 12:44I'm the customer service Rep and I'm going to take full
- 12:47responsibility for making sure that we resolve this issue.
- 12:51I apologize on behalf of the company, ma, I'm going to take
- 12:54full responsibility to make sure that we resolve this issue.
- 12:56And if it's something beyond my control, I will escalate it to
- 13:00my auger. I will escalate it to my Madam.
- 13:03So please Madam customer no Vex, can I ask you a couple of
- 13:07questions so that we can figure out what happened?
- 13:09Let me see how I can resolve the issue.
- 13:12That is the simple approach. All the people that I've told
- 13:15and who have tried this approach, they always give me
- 13:17the same testimony. Everybody calms the hell down
- 13:22because nobody is used to being spoken like that in Nigeria.
- 13:25People will calm down. You will not have a simple
- 13:27conversation. Now, see, especially in this
- 13:29case, that was a simple thing of just one phone number.
- 13:32This thing could have been discovered in one conversation
- 13:36because the customer service Rep, those are the basic things
- 13:38you were asked. OK, thank you very much.
- 13:40Ma, what is the order number? OK, What is the name of the
- 13:44package? Where is it supposed to be
- 13:46delivered to? What phone number did you put on
- 13:48the package? You know, all these sorts of
- 13:51things, you know, now discovered that.
- 13:52Oh, I'm terribly sorry, Ma. The problem was the problem was
- 13:56from my own and we delivered the wrong number to the logistics
- 14:00company. We're really, really, really
- 14:02sorry, Ma. You know, Madame Novaks.
- 14:04And then of course, you know, these sorts of things.
- 14:06You can even like I've seen some companies do some throw in some,
- 14:14some how I put it. What's it called?
- 14:17Loss Leaders. Abby lost.
- 14:19I think that's what they call it, loss leaders.
- 14:20I think you give something for free, you lose money on it, but
- 14:24you're hoping that you're going to, excuse me, make it back
- 14:27later on in other orders. So it seemed the kind of thing
- 14:31so oh Madam, really, really sorry.
- 14:33It was our fault. We've rectified it now.
- 14:36The thing will be delivered to you in about two days.
- 14:39And just to show how sorry we are, please Madam Novak, we're
- 14:42going to send you 2 free bandanas or we're going to send
- 14:46you 2 free earrings. Or you know, just something
- 14:49small. Nigerians are not used to being
- 14:52spoken to in a very polite manner.
- 14:54You do this to your business people, people calm down and
- 14:57people are impressed. This is something that could
- 15:01have been really resolved very easily.
- 15:05So that's why I'm making today's episode and that's why there's
- 15:09noise all over the place because I'm still going to talk.
- 15:11I said let me just make this recording right now because if I
- 15:13say let me go home first, I might forget.
- 15:15And then I also wanted to make another podcast episode about
- 15:18something else. So I said, let me just hop on
- 15:20here real quick and make this episode.
- 15:22So please, please, please, please, please, please, please,
- 15:25please let's sit down with our business partners, with members
- 15:30of our staff, and we need to come up with some small, small,
- 15:33small procedures when customers are angry.
- 15:35What are we going to do? What is the internal policy for
- 15:41handling deliveries? If there's a problem with
- 15:44deliveries, deliveries are not getting on time, people haven't
- 15:47confirmed deliveries. What are we supposed to do?
- 15:49How do we follow up with logistics companies?
- 15:51Whose responsibility is it? You know, simple, simple, simple
- 15:54things. But please and please, I know
- 15:57you guys don't want to hear this from me, but I'm telling you,
- 16:01all of you that have all these automated response messages on
- 16:03WhatsApp, take those things down.
- 16:07They serve no use. They add no value to the
- 16:11customer. It makes you feel as if
- 16:14everything is all good. You'll feel as if everything is
- 16:17taken care of. But clearly not everything is
- 16:20being taken care of. Even if you want to create your
- 16:24own custom bot, you are going to need a lot of data to program
- 16:29these things adequately so that they can respond to every single
- 16:33situation. My own opinion, Please take
- 16:36those things down. They serve no value.
- 16:40If you must use them, then let it be a simple message that says
- 16:45thank you for contacting Chukwudi MRM and Sons.
- 16:49We are not available right now to take your call.
- 16:52However, if it is an emergency, call Kelechi on 080 blah blah
- 16:56blah or call Jennifer on 080 blah blah blah.
- 17:00That is the best kind of message to put up there because if the
- 17:05person feels like it's an emergency, at least they now
- 17:07know that this is somebody to call and they can get a response
- 17:11immediately. There's no point in putting an
- 17:13auto response, auto response message that responds
- 17:17immediately but that provides no value to the customer and the
- 17:20customer still has to wait another eight, 10/12/24 hours
- 17:24before they get an adequate response that resolves the issue
- 17:29anyway. We should be thinking clearly
- 17:30about customer service issues and trust me, trust me with the
- 17:36way that business people in Niger just mouth off.
- 17:39Anyhow, any small things, the mouth of the door to take
- 17:41responsibility. If you use this approach, it
- 17:44will make a world of difference in your business.
- 17:49You just say thank you very much Ma for reaching out.
- 17:53Sorry that this has happened. On behalf of the business, I
- 17:56apologize. My name is Jackson.
- 18:00I will take responsibility to make sure that this thing is
- 18:03resolved. If it is not something that I
- 18:05can resolve within my power, I will escalate it to my line
- 18:08manager or I will call my auger. So please Madam, don't vex.
- 18:12This is not how we like to do business here.
- 18:15So please Madam, I need to ask you some questions so that we
- 18:18can resolve. I can find out what's going on
- 18:21and I'll now know how to resolve it.
- 18:23Then you have your standard template questions.
- 18:26Start asking the questions. When did you place the order?
- 18:30When was the order confirmed? What are the notifications you
- 18:33received? When did you notice that there
- 18:35was a problem? What is the nature of the
- 18:37problem? Blah blah blah.
- 18:40It will make a whole, it will make a lot of a difference.
- 18:44So that's it. That's just the reason why I
- 18:46made today's episode. So that's it and that's all.
- 18:48Remember, if you'd love to connect, you can call SMS or
- 18:51WhatsApp me on 08064662140. Thank you for your time and
- 18:57attention. I will catch you same time, same
- 19:00place in your headphones or in your speakers.