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Friday fertility - Let’s learn more about miscarriages, women’s hormones & stress from THE expert in women’s health 🤰 💊 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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Speaker 1: Apologie Production, Grow and Glows Twelve Days of Christmas. Hello everybody,
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Grow and Glow. This is twelve
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Speaker 1: days of Christmas and I have an incredible guest on
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Speaker 1: with me today, doctor Natt. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: joining me today.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
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Speaker 1: I've actually spoken to you multiple times over the years,
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Speaker 1: and I just call you like the queen of all
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Speaker 1: things women's health and hormone energy, skin, pregnancy, fertility. So
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Speaker 1: in twenty minutes today, we're going to try and dive
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Speaker 1: deep into as many topics as we can. But before
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Speaker 1: get started, for anyone who doesn't know who you are,
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Speaker 1: in a nutshell, who are you and what do you do?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? So my background is in Chinese medicine. I never
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Speaker 2: planned on treating fertility. It kind of found me, and
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Speaker 2: then from fertility in those early years, it's sort of
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Speaker 2: branched out to women's health from you know, puberty through
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Speaker 2: to postmenopause, and that I get great to light in
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Speaker 2: because I think as women, we really don't understand our
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Speaker 2: bodies until something seems to not be working. But I
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Speaker 2: want a mission to help women understand their bodies from
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Speaker 2: a young age so they can make really great choices
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Speaker 2: for their long term health.
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Speaker 1: I really want to talk about stress and fertility because
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Speaker 1: I feel like in this day and age, we all
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Speaker 1: know so many women that are struggling to fall pregnant.
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Speaker 1: And I know when you talk about these type of topics,
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Speaker 1: they do ruffle a few feathers and it's a little
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Speaker 1: bit controversial. I suppose in your opinion, how does stress
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Speaker 1: impact a fatility?
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Speaker 2: We know that stress does many things to impact fertility,
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Speaker 2: and it's a coping mechanism. Your body's not really designed
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Speaker 2: to be stressed and procreate at the same time, so
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Speaker 2: it knows that it really your sex hormones are kind
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Speaker 2: of in competition with your stress hormones, or maybe the
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Speaker 2: other way around, I should say, So when there is
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Speaker 2: high cortisol and we're highly stressed, your body knows to
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Speaker 2: take your sex hormones offline, or at least pull the
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Speaker 2: brake on them. We're perfect by design, even though it
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Speaker 2: can feel like our body's failing us at these times.
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Speaker 2: And I think the hard part is we're often told,
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Speaker 2: especially from fertility doctors, that stress doesn't matter. Now when
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Speaker 2: you're isolating your sex hormones, and you're using therapies around
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Speaker 2: that you can isolate them, but it's still a collective
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Speaker 2: of everything that's happening all at once. You can't just
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Speaker 2: isolate systems. So stress impacts our gut, impacts our gut microbiome,
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Speaker 2: which is really one of the first places that we
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Speaker 2: see metabolism of hormones. It obviously also can change the
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Speaker 2: quality or the amount of pogestriin available as well, So
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Speaker 2: we need that hormone to maintain a pregnancy, and it's
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Speaker 2: the one that kind of not a hCG, but our
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Speaker 2: pogestrin also goes up, so it's often what we're testing
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Speaker 2: to make sure that a pregnancy is something that's going
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Speaker 2: to continue. So cortisole and pedestrion they kind of are
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Speaker 2: at war with each other, and cortisole will always win.
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Speaker 2: So it is something that I'm really passionate about talking
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Speaker 2: about because I think women are misled to believe that
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Speaker 2: they can be highly stressed and have their cake and
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Speaker 2: eat it too, and it just doesn't really work like that,
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that you can't be successful and
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Speaker 2: not be stressed either, like you can actually be successful
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Speaker 2: do less achieve more and have all of the things,
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Speaker 2: but we have to be conscious about stress levels. It's
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Speaker 2: a silent epidemic. I say, like we are highly stressed generally,
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Speaker 2: but I think the pressure that women put upon themselves
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Speaker 2: at that point in time, especially trying to conceive, is
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Speaker 2: part of the actual challenge as well.
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Speaker 1: I remember years and years ago when we spoke this
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Speaker 1: one thing that really helped me and my periods. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to ask you what are the three best things
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Speaker 1: for fertility and our hormones? But I remember you telling
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Speaker 1: me that any symptom when we get our period is
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Speaker 1: a sign of inflammation the body, and that changed my life.
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Speaker 1: Ever since then, I've been so focused on making sure
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Speaker 1: my inflammation is down, and I swear majority of my
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Speaker 1: period symptoms have gone and been gone ever since. I
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Speaker 1: used to get really bloated, I used to get back pain, headaches,
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Speaker 1: skin breakouts, and like, I don't get any of that anymore.
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Speaker 1: What would you say are the top three tips? I'm
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Speaker 1: guessing stress and getting your inflammation down. Is there any
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Speaker 1: other things that you could tell us.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is how stress is actually one
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Speaker 2: of the ones that is the most important. We've just
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Speaker 2: touched on that. But I think, you know, I don't
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Speaker 2: think anyone's arguing when we say eat for health. You know,
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Speaker 2: we need to make sure our nutrition's dialed in. We
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Speaker 2: need to make sure we're sleeping enough. Like if you
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Speaker 2: walked away and went she told me to sleep more
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Speaker 2: and eat better, you'd be like, that's a great episode,
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Speaker 2: as she well done, Like not she has a great guest.
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Speaker 2: But I do think that you have to mention those
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Speaker 2: things because you cannot out supplement sleep. You can't. There's
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Speaker 2: nothing you can do to outrun it. You have to
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Speaker 2: spend time doing it, and the majority of us aren't
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Speaker 2: getting enough. And it really does show, especially as we
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Speaker 2: get older, we don't have the same flexibility. Our hormones
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Speaker 2: become more temperamental. It doesn't mean you're not fertile, but
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Speaker 2: we do know that after the age of or around
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Speaker 2: the age of thirty five, our ovarian reserve and our
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Speaker 2: ovarian function starts to decline. It's not a switch, it
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Speaker 2: doesn't just get flicked off. You could be fertile for
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Speaker 2: another twenty years at that point. I mean that's probably
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Speaker 2: pushing it, but at least another ten, if not fifteen,
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Speaker 2: And so I think that's really important to understand that
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Speaker 2: you become more temperamental, and sleep is one of the
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Speaker 2: things to keep that more balanced and in check. So
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Speaker 2: we've said stress, we've said nutrition and sleep. When I
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Speaker 2: say nutrition as well, protein is so important for your hormones.
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Speaker 2: Your hormones are made of fat and protein, and we
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Speaker 2: again a lot of women are afraid of eating good fats,
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Speaker 2: and I know that you talk about this all the time.
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Speaker 2: And obviously protein and we really do need to prioritize protein.
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Speaker 2: And the other thing I would say that is super
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Speaker 2: important is fiber. So fiber is also for the women
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Speaker 2: that have hormone imbalances. And we might see too much
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Speaker 2: of one hormone and not enough of the other. So
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Speaker 2: very commonly estrogen or testosterone we can see in excess,
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Speaker 2: So excess in say pcos we see too much testosterone
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Speaker 2: in the body, estrogen dominance, We see too much estrogen.
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Speaker 2: One of the main ways that we can help our
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Speaker 2: bodies eliminate some of that excess is through fiber. Fiber
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Speaker 2: is a binder, and excess hormones will bind to fiber
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Speaker 2: and you will poop.
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Speaker 1: Yes, fib I did not know that right, So fiber
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Speaker 1: will help.
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Speaker 2: Balance blood sugar so important if there is a hormone
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Speaker 2: imbalance like PCOS helps to feed the good gup bacteria,
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Speaker 2: so again it's like it's not just about poop, and
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Speaker 2: it also helps to detoxify and eliminate. So I mean,
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Speaker 2: I would say fiber is my most favorite thing to
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Speaker 2: talk about for all of those reasons, and also really
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Speaker 2: important to help maintain healthy weight as well. So from
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Speaker 2: a nutrition perspective, there's three things there as well that
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Speaker 2: I've just given you. So between all those things, I mean,
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Speaker 2: there's some pretty simple changes you can make to really
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Speaker 2: move the needle for your fertility.
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Speaker 1: I feel like we really underestimate the foundational things like hydration, sleep, stress, nutrition,
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Speaker 1: and we're all looking for this quick fix or this
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Speaker 1: next supplement or you know, a faster way to fix
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Speaker 1: the problem. But when we get back to the foundational things,
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Speaker 1: it really does make such a huge impact when focused
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Speaker 1: on consistently, well.
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Speaker 2: You can't outdo them. That's the thing. Regardless of whether
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Speaker 2: you're taking the supplement or you're taking a medication and
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Speaker 2: whatever it might be, you still have to do these things.
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Speaker 2: They should be primary. Especially supplements should be the cherry
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Speaker 2: on top. You can't out supplement a bad diet. There's
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Speaker 2: nothing you can do with it. Like I said, you
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Speaker 2: can't out supplement poor sleep or no sleep. It is basic,
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Speaker 2: it's not difficult. But we've been led to believe that
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Speaker 2: uphill can have a bigger impact. It's not to say
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Speaker 2: it can't influence the body. If you don't have the
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Speaker 2: actual structure there for your body to go forth and
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Speaker 2: make hormones, there's nothing you can do. You can't force
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Speaker 2: that to happen long term. Especially so the basics definitely
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Speaker 2: add up, but we're living at a time where we
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Speaker 2: somehow have been led to believe that we can outsmart
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Speaker 2: that and we really can't.
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Speaker 1: So for someone listening to be like, oh my gosh, fiber, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what do I eat? What do I take? What would
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Speaker 1: you recommend? Straight up like I want to leave this podcast,
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Speaker 1: go to the shops and get my fiber.
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Speaker 2: You can mean we should be eating fiber and we
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Speaker 2: should be doing that at every meal. So my favorites
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Speaker 2: for patients are a handful of almonds if you can
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Speaker 2: tolerate them. Berries are a may, apples, carrots, pears, asparagus.
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Speaker 2: Sparagus is great because it's an excellent probiotic. All of
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Speaker 2: these foods are actually prebiotics, so you know. I mean,
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Speaker 2: what I say to patients is, don't listen to my
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Speaker 2: list because I'm listing what I love. Go and google
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Speaker 2: high fiber foods and then look at the ones that
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Speaker 2: you really like. But those are really common, and patients
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Speaker 2: are generally very happy to have, you know, a carrot
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Speaker 2: in their snack box or a berries. I mean, who
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Speaker 2: doesn't like berries. I'm talking about everything except strawberries. Although
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Speaker 2: strawberries are fine, A lot of people aren't actually great
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Speaker 2: with strawberries and they don't know it. So I always
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Speaker 2: say to patients, blueberries, we know are so amazing, So
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Speaker 2: handful of blueberries. I actually have created a fiber product.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have because of this reason. So it's
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Speaker 2: called Mbody, and we launched it last year. We've had
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Speaker 2: the most amazing results. But the reason I created it
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Speaker 2: was because I kept telling patients to mix together some
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Speaker 2: really simple ingredients that you can go and buy at
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Speaker 2: the health food store, and they just wouldn't do it.
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is so basic, guys. So things
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Speaker 2: like slipperyalm, flaxi, chia cilium, they're kind of like foundational
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Speaker 2: in our product. But you can buy these ingredients and
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Speaker 2: mix them together. But to your point, we did. We
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Speaker 2: made a product that helps to address inflammation, helps to
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Speaker 2: regulate the liver, and is a fiber soluble and insoluble fiber.
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Speaker 2: And it's even right down to mood because let's think
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Speaker 2: about it. If we're supporting our gut, it's where we
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Speaker 2: make the majority of our serotonin and dopamine. And if
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Speaker 2: we're not doing that properly or our guts compromised, then
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Speaker 2: we can feel pretty average. It was one of the
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Speaker 2: things that we knows women like I feel amazing, like
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Speaker 2: my moods are better. Well, like, then we did some
9:45
Speaker 2: research into some of the ingredients and we're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: my goodness, that actually have an impact on moods. So
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Speaker 2: just don't underestimate food. You know that. I know that
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Speaker 2: the listener knows that, but I'm going to say it
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Speaker 2: because if I didn't, I'd be actually discounting just how
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Speaker 2: simple things can be. And we've got to make them
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Speaker 2: simple otherwise we won't do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, and that's I mean, that's the
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Speaker 1: thing with your supplement too, Like, yes, we could go
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Speaker 1: buy all the ingredients, mix it together, but most of
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Speaker 1: us are really busy mums, and we just it gets
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Speaker 1: put in the too hard basket. So having something simple
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Speaker 1: and easy that you can take like that, can I
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Speaker 1: ask does it taste like shit?
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Speaker 2: It tastes?
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Speaker 1: What does it taste? Not too bad?
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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. It doesn't taste like anything to me.
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Speaker 2: It's more of the texture. That is a texture, right,
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Speaker 2: So we listen to people we're about to go to
10:28
Speaker 2: capsules because we're like, oh gosh, if you want the capsules,
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Speaker 2: then have the capsules. If you want the powder, because
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Speaker 2: the thing is you're someone that has smoothies, you just
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Speaker 2: chuck it in. It's smoothie. It's not hard. But not
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Speaker 2: everybody is like me. I just chug it down. But
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Speaker 2: I hate flavored things, so I'm the opposite. So just
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Speaker 2: giving people options, I think around it. But again, we
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Speaker 2: try to get people to use it as food as medicine.
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Speaker 2: So if you can incorporate it into your regime, the
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Speaker 2: harder it is to take, the less likely you are
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Speaker 2: to take it.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. That's why I asked about the taste. So I
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Speaker 1: feel like, I mean, I'm going to buy it straight
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Speaker 1: after the show, I'm sure. So many women will. But
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Speaker 1: I know the taste can get to people, but the
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Speaker 1: texture because my husband takes cilium husk if he's ever
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Speaker 1: like clogged up, and the texture is just so thick
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Speaker 1: and gunky, and I'm like er. But I mean, at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you know what's going
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Speaker 1: to benefit you tenfold, why would you not? All Right?
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Speaker 1: My next question, I know is a very touchy subject
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Speaker 1: for so many women because so many women are experiencing it.
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Speaker 1: But in your opinion, why do women miscarry?
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Speaker 2: It is it's a really hard topic. Here's what I
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Speaker 2: will say. I always say one miscarriage is one too many,
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Speaker 2: and I think the biggest mistake women make is to
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Speaker 2: have multiple miscarriages and then decide to go and investigate
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Speaker 2: as to what is happening. We know that our modern
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Speaker 2: lifestyle is absolutely impacting our fertility, and it appears to
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Speaker 2: be really the exposure to toxins and chemicals in our environment,
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Speaker 2: in our homes and body products, our cleaning products, our food,
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Speaker 2: our water. And I don't say that to make it
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Speaker 2: an overwhelming task, but we absolutely have to look at
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Speaker 2: these things. And we definitely know that the majority of
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Speaker 2: our conventional products contain hormone disrupting chemicals. The person listening
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Speaker 2: might be saying, surely not NAT. It wouldn't be available
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Speaker 2: over the counter if it had ingredients in it that
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Speaker 2: could harm me and my fertility in my unborn. No
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Speaker 2: one's regulating this stuff. There's no mister big Daddy out
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Speaker 2: there going it's safe to take this, or it's safe
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Speaker 2: to use this. It's not regulated and I don't think
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Speaker 2: that will be like that forever. But it's a big
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Speaker 2: undertaking when you've had products that have been used for many,
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Speaker 2: many years that have got ingredients that are known endocrime disruptors.
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Speaker 2: And it's said that the average woman walks out the
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Speaker 2: door in the morning and has already exposed herself to
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Speaker 2: seventy to eighty of these known toxic ingredients that are
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Speaker 2: in your deodorant. They're in your vasewash, they're in your shampoo,
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Speaker 2: they're in your conditioner, they're in what you clean the
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Speaker 2: sink with. So I always say to women, I don't
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Speaker 2: want you to be overwhelmed, and I definitely don't want
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Speaker 2: you to go on through throw everything out. But every
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Speaker 2: time it's time to replace a product, let's look at
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Speaker 2: what a low tox cleaner. I think clean is the
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Speaker 2: word that we're looking for. It doesn't even necessarily mean
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Speaker 2: organic is best. Some would argue, I don't think that
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Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with that, But sometimes some of the
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Speaker 2: organic products have other filling ingredients in them that aren't
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Speaker 2: great either. So you're always looking for the cleanest product
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Speaker 2: that has the least amount of ingredients in it. And
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Speaker 2: there's some really great apps out there that you can
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Speaker 2: use to plug in what you're actually using and see
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Speaker 2: how its scores on a scale, and you're wanting something
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Speaker 2: to be as low on the scale as possible. We're
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Speaker 2: living at a time where there's options. I can walk
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Speaker 2: into Mecca and there are options that are amazing that
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Speaker 2: are clean. A lot of these retailers are moving more
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Speaker 2: towards cleaner products. They are sometimes more expensive, and that's
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Speaker 2: the reason these chemicals make their way into products is
13:57
Speaker 2: because they're cheap and they lather or they do certain things,
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Speaker 2: and we're used to products feeling a certain way. So
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Speaker 2: I have a swap for almost everything. Don't you worry
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Speaker 2: about that? Like I really do, because I don't really
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Speaker 2: want to compromise on There's certain things that I love,
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Speaker 2: and also I want to live in a way that
14:15
Speaker 2: I've got a little bit of flexibility that I go, Okay,
14:17
Speaker 2: I love having my nails done, how do I have
14:19
Speaker 2: my nails done? And that's something that brings me joy,
14:22
Speaker 2: but I make up for it in many other areas.
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Speaker 2: So again, this is also why it's important to make sure,
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Speaker 2: back to our previous conversation about elimination, that we are
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Speaker 2: properly clearing toxins from our body because many of them,
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Speaker 2: like I said, they mimic your own hormones. And when
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Speaker 2: you've got too much of certain things, especially estrogen, and
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Speaker 2: often they mimic estrogen, this is where it becomes a
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Speaker 2: problem that we have this build up and we've got
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Speaker 2: too much estrogen in our body. Now, how do you
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Speaker 2: know if that's you. The most common symptom I see
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Speaker 2: of too much estrogen is a heavy period. Estrogen builds
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Speaker 2: our lining. If you've got more lining, you're going to
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Speaker 2: have more bleeding. And the other really common symptom is
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Speaker 2: ovulation pain. So if a patient comes in and they
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Speaker 2: have ovulation pain and they have heavy bleeding, especially also
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Speaker 2: we were talking about miscarriage, a recurrent miscarriage, then absolutely
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Speaker 2: this is where we would start but that's one of
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Speaker 2: the main reasons that we are seeing issues with our
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Speaker 2: fertility and miscarriage is because of our modern lifestyle, and
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Speaker 2: we can do some pretty simple things to fix it.
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Speaker 2: It's just about some conscious choices. There are other things
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Speaker 2: that can contribute as well, obviously high stress, hormonium balances,
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Speaker 2: but the majority of miscarriages really seem to be a
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Speaker 2: chromosomal issue, and that seems to be a result of
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Speaker 2: the exposure to toxins and chemicals that we're experiencing.
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Speaker 1: Wow, there is so many options out there too. Even
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Speaker 1: I've got a girlfriend who she just can't use anything
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Speaker 1: on her face, she or like body, any products, anything natural.
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Speaker 1: And I gave us some beef tallow Yeah, and it's
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Speaker 1: cleared up while o're skined. She has it and it's
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Speaker 1: like it's literally one ingredients. It's so hydrating it doesn't
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Speaker 1: clog a pause, and she's like, Wow, I've been spending
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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars all these like crazy products and now
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Speaker 1: I'm using one thing that I can buy like a
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Speaker 1: massive jar from flatteries for like thirteen dollars. Yeah, there's
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Speaker 1: much we can do.
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Speaker 2: There's so much we can do, And I think also
16:11
Speaker 2: what's really nice now is that they're brands that are
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Speaker 2: out there creating because we love the experience of something,
16:16
Speaker 2: don't We love the true ging, we love how it feels. No,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: It really doesn't.
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Speaker 2: I mean, but nor does say, you know, like hair
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Speaker 2: growth stimulating products like oregano. I'm like, you're gonna smell
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Speaker 2: like a roast, but don't worry about it. Your hair's
16:32
Speaker 2: gonna grow. It's gonna be fantastic.
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Speaker 1: Well, my next question is, just out of pure curiosity,
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Speaker 1: why do some women blitz through pregnancy? Like my first
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Speaker 1: I was like a barely notice as pregnant, no symptoms
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Speaker 1: if my belly didn't show for ages. I was never sick,
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Speaker 1: I was never tied, kept training up till thirty eight weeks,
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Speaker 1: and then other women are literally in bed, sick all
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Speaker 1: day every day, no energy, hating life, Like, why is
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Speaker 1: it so different for everyone?
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Speaker 2: I do think that the foundation and some might say, well,
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Speaker 2: I was really healthy when I felt pregnant, and then
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Speaker 2: I wasn't very well. I think that there's some things
17:04
Speaker 2: to be said about the foundations that before you go
17:07
Speaker 2: into a pregnancy. Gut health, obviously, I think is a
17:10
Speaker 2: big one and I think when we see that there
17:13
Speaker 2: is you know, disharmonies within the gut. I think some
17:16
Speaker 2: women can be more unwell than others. I think the
17:20
Speaker 2: body kind of knows what it's doing, even though it
17:22
Speaker 2: feels like it's punishing us. I also think that the
17:25
Speaker 2: first pregnancy is often easier. You're not having after another child.
17:30
Speaker 2: You know, everything is different, I think second time around.
17:33
Speaker 2: But I think if you're comparing two first pregnancies, I
17:36
Speaker 2: really do think how we go into it can make
17:39
Speaker 2: a very big difference. The other things that seem to
17:42
Speaker 2: make a difference, and you probably know this, you know
17:44
Speaker 2: just based on how you're feeling, but how fatigued you
17:47
Speaker 2: are really plays into how you're feeling. And I think
17:51
Speaker 2: a lot of women are very tired going into their pregnancy,
17:54
Speaker 2: so then they're even more tired, which can make you
17:57
Speaker 2: feel very unwell. And then also obviously things like the
18:00
Speaker 2: level of inflammation in your body, which you touched on before,
18:03
Speaker 2: that also can play a big part of it. Some
18:05
Speaker 2: would say there's no rhyme or reason. I would always
18:08
Speaker 2: say there's a reason. And this is where I think
18:10
Speaker 2: acupunture can really help, because you're not having to take
18:13
Speaker 2: anything you often don't feel like you can take anything,
18:15
Speaker 2: and it really helps to kind of settled few our
18:17
Speaker 2: feeling nauseous, especially helps to settle things. It's amazing for
18:21
Speaker 2: morning sickness. But it's also amazing for miscarriage. I didn't
18:24
Speaker 2: touch on that before, so I mean it's just easy
18:26
Speaker 2: because you don't have to do anything other than lie there.
18:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love acupuncture. It is the most relaxing, recharging,
18:33
Speaker 1: restorative thing I think we can do for ourselves. I
18:36
Speaker 1: love it. I'll finish off with one more question back
18:38
Speaker 1: to the information, what would be your number one tip
18:40
Speaker 1: for inflammation? Like for me, I can't take it at
18:42
Speaker 1: the moment because I'm on blood thinners for my brain surgery,
18:44
Speaker 1: but taking turmeric every day, yes, like was a game
18:47
Speaker 1: changer for me.
18:48
Speaker 2: One of the things we stumbled across when we were
18:50
Speaker 2: creating our product was MSM and it is amazing for inflammation.
18:56
Speaker 2: So it's known as the beauty mineral. A lot of
18:58
Speaker 2: people know it as the beauty mineral. It was known
19:00
Speaker 2: for its ability to support hair, skin and nails, college
19:03
Speaker 2: information and strengthening the hair, and it really helps with
19:07
Speaker 2: liver detoxification. But it also is a phenomenal for inflammation.
19:12
Speaker 2: And the reason that I actually got introduced to was
19:15
Speaker 2: because my business partner had terrible endometriosis and add in
19:19
Speaker 2: myiosis and fibroids and would be literally the person that
19:23
Speaker 2: would say, don't speak to me for a couple of days.
19:25
Speaker 2: Once I'm feeling better, I'll call you back, you know.
19:28
Speaker 2: And she had come across it. I'd never seen it before,
19:30
Speaker 2: even as a practitioner, and so she started experimenting with
19:33
Speaker 2: it had amazing results. We know that those anti inflammatory
19:37
Speaker 2: herbs are great as well, and that you can take
19:39
Speaker 2: them as a supplement, the tumriic, the cuman, there's a
19:42
Speaker 2: whole list of them, right, But I do really love
19:45
Speaker 2: MSM and the other thing I really love for inflammation. Again,
19:49
Speaker 2: it all stems from the gut. So the gut integrity
19:51
Speaker 2: is really important. Making sure that obviously not only that
19:54
Speaker 2: the gut bacteria and the flora is as happy as
19:57
Speaker 2: possible and that we're feeding that all the time, but
19:59
Speaker 2: also the actual integrity and gut lining itself, so making
20:03
Speaker 2: sure that that's not compromise. The junctions of the gut
20:06
Speaker 2: the cells are nice and tightly packed together. This is
20:08
Speaker 2: why a lot of people take collagen that can really
20:11
Speaker 2: help with that. And the other thing, I'd say that
20:12
Speaker 2: if you know that you've got inflammation in your body,
20:15
Speaker 2: and you definitely know that your gut's not working very well,
20:18
Speaker 2: another really nice soothing thing as Elvira is so great
20:21
Speaker 2: as well. So there's so many things that you can add.
20:24
Speaker 2: But I think it's about not doing everything. I think
20:27
Speaker 2: it's actually about being able to just start with one
20:29
Speaker 2: thing and sort of see where that takes you, because
20:31
Speaker 2: otherwise it does become very overwhelming. And we've thrown around
20:35
Speaker 2: fifteen different things so ten minutes. It's just starting with
20:38
Speaker 2: one thing and then seeing where that goes. And I
20:40
Speaker 2: definitely would recommend that because I'll tell you what happens.
20:43
Speaker 2: If you don't, it becomes stressful and then it's counterproductive,
20:46
Speaker 2: as we've already spoken about. So it is about really
20:49
Speaker 2: listening to what your signs and symptoms are and then
20:52
Speaker 2: letting them guide you as to what the next best
20:54
Speaker 2: thing is, because otherwise it does become something that is
20:57
Speaker 2: all too hard and we just don't do it.
20:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, so true. Thank you so much for joining us today.
21:02
Speaker 1: I feel like we could talk for hours, but these
21:04
Speaker 1: episodes are jam packed, But for anyone listening and be like,
21:07
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I want to see you, I want
21:09
Speaker 1: to work with you. I want more questions. Where do
21:11
Speaker 1: we find you? How can people work with you?
21:13
Speaker 2: Amazing? I would love to help anyone. I hang out
21:15
Speaker 2: a lot on Instagram, so it's Nat Krem Goodas on Instagram.
21:18
Speaker 2: But I would absolutely say and all the links are
21:20
Speaker 2: in my bio to everything we've you know, kind of discussed,
21:23
Speaker 2: but my website, if you go to Natcremduddas dot com
21:26
Speaker 2: and you use the search function, I don't know that
21:28
Speaker 2: there's anything on there that I haven't covered. And if
21:30
Speaker 2: if there's something that I haven't covered, it's like a
21:33
Speaker 2: library of info. There's something that I haven't covered, then
21:35
Speaker 2: reach out to us and I will absolutely write about it.
21:38
Speaker 2: But I think you'll find that there'll be a lot
21:39
Speaker 2: of next best steps, you know, what's the next thing
21:42
Speaker 2: I can do. And finally, the other thing that is
21:45
Speaker 2: on the website, and there's a link in my bio
21:47
Speaker 2: on Instagram is we do have a hormone quiz and
21:51
Speaker 2: all it does is profile your symptoms to figure out
21:53
Speaker 2: what your hormone imbalance might be. So it'll tell you
21:56
Speaker 2: you know your likely imbalance is too much eastrogen or
21:58
Speaker 2: too much testosterone, and then what is the next best
22:01
Speaker 2: thing that you can do, so that could be useful.
22:03
Speaker 2: It's about using symptoms and it helps you to profile
22:06
Speaker 2: them and figure out what to do next.
22:07
Speaker 1: So that's amazing, and that's just amazing I can get
22:10
Speaker 1: off this podcast and actually take your action and do
22:12
Speaker 1: something you know. Well, thank you so much. I'll leave
22:14
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22:18
Speaker 1: joining us, and hopefully we'll be out of chat again soon.
22:20
Speaker 2: Thanks. Actually, you have a lovely Christmas.
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