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- 0:05You are listening to Tom's Hirshbrung's podcast, where I provide a look into the
- 0:09remarkable experiences of the most inspiring people around Hirshprung's disease and sports. Hello and
- 0:29welcome to episode nine, which is the continuation of my chat with Shelley Warner.
- 0:35In part one, if you haven't listened to Part one, we talked
- 0:38about her son of Donnis, his diagnosis with Down syndrome and Hirshbrungs disease and
- 0:45a fascinating story told by Shelley about Donnie and his experiences and where he's up
- 0:53to at the moment. In Part two, we are going to talk about
- 0:57Shelley's charity work, the fantastic charity work that she is currently doing in the
- 1:00charity she's working with, as well as stay tuned to the last part on
- 1:08this podcast where we will have a very exciting activity that Shelley is preparing for
- 1:15and taking part in. So definitely stay tuned to the end and welcome back.
- 1:19Shelley. We want to talk about your charity work, how you got
- 1:25involved in various charities If you wouldn't mind starting off with the Nottinghamshire or Down
- 1:34Syndrome Support and how you got involved with them. Yeah, So the nottingham
- 1:41Shire's Down Syndrome Support Group are such a big group that of different families who
- 1:49have got children living with Down syndrome in the area and not only just in
- 1:53Nottinghamshire but in the whole of the Smithlings. Really the leader of the creator
- 2:00of that group, Helen Poppins, has been such an amazing support for us.
- 2:07We actually were given a little welcome pat when we first had a Donis.
- 2:15They dish out these homemade gift bags to the two hospitals in nottingham that
- 2:23have like different leaflets and information packs and activities that they put on and stuff.
- 2:30They have like a football team and a dance Warriors troup and they really
- 2:37do so much in the community. So we were straight away in the hospital
- 2:42in the NICU with the the DS clinic supervisor and she was giving us this
- 2:47welcome pack and being like well done and celebrating Adonis's Dan syndrome diagnosis and we
- 2:54got a little present, a little teddy bear and a blanket some duties.
- 2:59It was. It just so thoughtful and just really what we needed to start
- 3:02uplifting our journey from the off, Like, I think that the support group
- 3:08and what they do for these families is just so pivotal in starting off their
- 3:15journey on a positive note and really welcoming them into a complete community where you
- 3:21don't have to be afraid of your baby's future because you can see for a
- 3:25fact that all these people are thriving with the same diagnosis, and some of
- 3:30them worse diagnoses and have a lot of problems and still get on with their
- 3:36lives and really really just blossom in the community. And they've really been one
- 3:44hundred percent supportive and just what we needed. I mean, we go to
- 3:47their toddler support groups and I talk to the other mums with the babies who
- 3:52have Down syndrome as well, and we've really met friends for life through that
- 3:55group, and I'm so grateful for everything they've done. I mean, yeah,
- 4:01it was just just what we needed. I think, fantastic. Yeah,
- 4:06that's that's really really important. And the point I'm going to pick up
- 4:10on about welcoming you in because you said in the last episode it can be
- 4:15just an initial shock if you're doing the child that's down diagnosed with Down syndrome
- 4:23and having that welcoming space and that sort of don't be afraid, and the
- 4:29gift bags and all of the fantastic work that they do and I imagine can
- 4:33be an excellent help. Really yeah, I mean it was complete one eighty
- 4:40to how some of the doctors reacted to the diagnosis. They were more apologetic,
- 4:46Oh, I'm really sorry that you've got a diagnosis of down syndrome in
- 4:50your little boy, And I was like, why should I be sorry,
- 4:53And like, I feel like that was who he's supposed to be. I
- 4:59couldn't him in any other way, in any other light. I think he
- 5:03is exactly what I needed anyway. But he's really showed me and his dad
- 5:09that life is just not for being taken for granted. It shouldn't be and
- 5:14and everyone is should be really grateful for having such a magnificent light in their
- 5:23life, like ad honest and really teaching us what life should what your life
- 5:28should be like, and how it should be lived because they are so so
- 5:30positive. All of the children are the children and young adults they work with.
- 5:35The support group work with babies from when they've just been born. Actually,
- 5:40they worked with one of the mums who was pregnant and had a diagnosis
- 5:44in pregnancy, and she came to our support groups and really saw what the
- 5:47babies that she was going to have would be like. And I'm still friends
- 5:53with her to this day, and they really offered her the support and everything
- 5:58that she needed. I was actually pregnant at the same time as a few
- 6:02moms with who had diagnoses as well around the same time, and we were
- 6:06in an IQ with one of them and met them and we both got a
- 6:11gift bags and we left the hospital together. And then a year later,
- 6:15our babies are celebrating their first birthdays together and they're really going to grow up
- 6:19with each other and really see how each other work and how each other thrive.
- 6:24And I mean he's standing already, Arthur Is. So it's just amazing
- 6:29to see where we could go, especially with the young adults that they work
- 6:35with as well. I mean, when we go to like the Christmas party
- 6:40each year, it's a whole mix of ages in the whole of the area.
- 6:44And we've actually got a different celebration now on the twenty first of March,
- 6:50I believe, for World Down Syndrome Day, and we're having another celebration
- 6:56with the support group and everyone's going to come in and have a rap for
- 7:00and have a dance and you can really see how they're interacting with each other,
- 7:03and the older children interact with the younger children. They interact with each
- 7:08other, they're dancing together, they're laughing, they're playing and it's just so
- 7:12warming to our hearts to see. And I'm so grateful to be a part
- 7:16of the support group and be welcomed in by them and then be able to
- 7:20offer my expertise in helping out at the events and volunteering with them as well.
- 7:28Yeah. No, that's really important, And as you say, it's
- 7:31really important for you to share your experities because everybody has a story and everybody's
- 7:35will be sort of slightly different and you can take take some from other people's
- 7:41stories and possibly apply them to your own. In speaking about about stories,
- 7:46you have recently done an interview with not TV about footprints in Nottingham. How
- 7:54have they been really helpful? So Footprints was originally introduced to me through one
- 8:03of the mums at the support group and she just came in full of life
- 8:09and to one of the meetings and just was waving these bags around with footprints
- 8:13on and I was like, what's Prince I've never even heard of them,
- 8:16and it's so strange to say that they've been around in Nottingham supporting a range
- 8:22of people with disabilities, not just down syndrome and not just Hirshbong's disease,
- 8:26but things like cerebral palsy, dystonia, different conditions that you might not even
- 8:35know exist. I mean, a lot of them are rare diseases and these
- 8:39people have trained for decades in how to really help these children thrive with these
- 8:48conditions. It was originally called School for Parents, and one of their main
- 8:54aims is to support the families and teach the families how to cope and how
- 9:01to really help the children thrive in their own environments. I mean, we
- 9:05go we go to Footprints on a Friday morning, but we use their methods
- 9:11every day all day. It's like being shown how to be a first time
- 9:18mum, but in light of their disabilities, it's very like rewarding. It's
- 9:24very great. We've learned how to support his physio development, how to support
- 9:31him in standing sitting independently, which he's doing now, and nuts TV were
- 9:35really capturing what we knew about Footprints and how we came to work with them
- 9:43and really highlighting the importance of donation requests and things like that, because it
- 9:50really is difficult to keep going. They've been running for two decades now and
- 9:58the amount of families on their way list they can't keep up with. So
- 10:01having donations and different grants and support from all the different companies that are offering
- 10:11help and support to them to keep going and keep the lights on and grow
- 10:15as a charity is really really important to get the message out there, and
- 10:18that's what not Stev we're helping us do and really showing the nation the amazing
- 10:24support that is on offer to them because a lot of people just don't know
- 10:28that they exist. Like me, I had no idea and that Footprints were
- 10:33literally down the road from me, And now I work with them as a
- 10:37volunteer full time, and I'm so grateful. They're the reason why I know
- 10:43I know how to communicate with my son. They taught him sign language and
- 10:46I've been carrying on with it and really helping with his feeding as well,
- 10:52because he can now tell me when he's full and when he's finished, and
- 10:54when he wants water and if he wants more. And I know how to
- 11:00communicate with him, which I would otherwise not be able to do. So
- 11:03they are amazing fantastic. Really that sounds like really fantastic work. And I
- 11:09can imagine again you weren't alone in thinking that or not sure that there was
- 11:16a place, a charity or footprints out there. I'm sure that there's a
- 11:22lot of a lot of people that would be amazed to know that there are
- 11:26other places out there for them that can really really help. We'd sign language
- 11:31and really really important parts like that. I want to talk as well about
- 11:39the not Down Syndrome Support book recently out. Is that able to purchase for
- 11:46people? Where might they be able to find it? Yeah, so if
- 11:48they go to Nottinghamshire's Down Syndrome Support Group website, they can order it on
- 11:56their online shop. It's in a really amazing book filled with stories and different
- 12:01experiences with all different aged children and young adults with Dwan syndrome. It was
- 12:09put together by the founder of the charity, Helen and she really is the
- 12:15expert on downcingndrome and what canelo. She knows everything, and if she doesn't
- 12:18know, she knows someone who knows, and she really is like a whole
- 12:22dictionary of knowledge. She has a son called Matt who has Down syndrome as
- 12:30well, and he just is amazing. He is I think he's nineteen now
- 12:35or twenty, but she's just been running this charity in his honor and they
- 12:43really are just amazing people she's put together or everybody's stories. Mine was on
- 12:48breastfeeding with Down syndrome because there's a lot of stigma around nurses and doctors discouraging
- 12:56breastfeeding with when you have a baby with Down syndrome because they can't maybe latch
- 13:01easier enough, and they can't they get tired very easy, so if they're
- 13:05low muscle tone. But I give a few tips and tricks in that book
- 13:09on how to really encourage the baby to latch and how to use different methods
- 13:16if one's not enough or one's not working. You try this and really encourage
- 13:22people to be able to try breastfeeding because it really does benefit them. And
- 13:26especially with Adonicius hirschbrongs, it really helped him be able to process milk a
- 13:31lot better. I actually had to be dairy free my whole breastfeeding journey because
- 13:37you couldn't process dairy. So we were both dairy free for like ten months.
- 13:43I think it was that I've breastfed for but he absolutely loved it and
- 13:50really thrived on breastfeeding. And I think having the book that really explains not
- 13:56only one story like that, but everybody's story is I think there's like ninety
- 14:01six I think stories in there of different ages and different challenges that those people
- 14:05have gone through. So it really is the bible for Down syndrome care because
- 14:11there's not a thing in that book that you won't experience on your journey with
- 14:16Down syndrome children. So it really is worth a worth a purchase. My
- 14:24nursery where my boy goes is a mainstream nursery and they've actually purchased the book
- 14:28to be able to help in his care and really thrive and get to know
- 14:35what could happen with him and other children if they were to take on other
- 14:37children with Down syndrome. So really thankful for their open mindness as well.
- 14:43Yeah, that definitely sounds like a wonderful resource if you need it, definitely.
- 14:48And speaking of articles and publications, I'd like to move on to modeling
- 14:54because Donnie is also a model. Yeah done. Yeah, He's represented by
- 15:01a base model casting in Yorkshire and it was so strange that he got into
- 15:07it because I was a model actually for four years, and when I got
- 15:11pregnant, I shut down my modeling page and just focused on him. I
- 15:16had a lot going on, as you can imagine, and putting him in
- 15:22my shoes it was really something that we could bond over. And then in
- 15:26his first year he got an agency and I'm just so proud of him.
- 15:30He was on the front of the Asda nappies. So there's a little picture
- 15:33of him and his fake mum. It's not me, but on the front
- 15:39of the Newborn Little Angels nappies in Asta right now, so go and have
- 15:43a look. You can see his curly toes. But that was his first
- 15:48job and it was amazing for him to experience that. And he's such a
- 15:52people person, so he absolutely loves going into modeling shoots and meeting different people
- 15:58and he's so happy. So I'm really really proud of him. So absolutely
- 16:03brilliant, and he really enjoys all the modeling, joys the attention. He
- 16:07is not camera shy in the slights, He's exactly like Mama. Really loves
- 16:14the attention. I saw sometimes he fakes illnesses so that you can get attention
- 16:18from nurses in the hospital as soon as we get there, it's fine.
- 16:25And lastly, we did we did promise the listeners towards the end that we
- 16:30did have a special announcement. Would you like to do the honors? Yeah,
- 16:36So in honor of Footprints Conductive Education Center, which is the charity that
- 16:41work so closely with Adonis and myself, I'm actually doing a skydive to raise
- 16:48money for them. We are very nearly at our fundraising target, which is
- 16:56six hundred and fifty pounds, which will be amazing if we can get there
- 17:00and will really help support a lot of families and a lot of children and
- 17:06really give them the tools that they need to thrive. And I'm really really
- 17:11excited to do the sky dive, but I'm so nervous. It's something that
- 17:17I never thought I would do, but been on my bucket list for a
- 17:19while. And how I thought of it was, well, Adonis jumps into
- 17:26every scenario with no fear and just goes for it. And the way that
- 17:30he feels with standing for the first time and walking for the first time and
- 17:37sitting up on his own is so small to other people but so big to
- 17:41him. And I tried to think of something that would be as big a
- 17:47feeling as he would have, and to me that was heights. So here
- 17:52I am throwing myself out of the plane and hoping to land safely. I'm
- 17:56sure you will best of luck with it. It's not like you can do
- 18:00a lot of practice or preparation for it. Jump off a bed not a
- 18:06great deal. When you see me just jumping off, jumping off some low
- 18:11walls in the middle of nothing city center, you know that it's really proud
- 18:15of practice, brilliant and just very Lastly, what are your your Adonis and
- 18:23your family's plans for the future. How do you think the future looks for
- 18:27you? We're really just open, to be honest. We're trying not to
- 18:33plan too much. The most I've managed to plan in the last year was
- 18:37a small holiday an hour away from our house, just in case we have
- 18:41to go to the hospital again. That seems to seems to happen quite a
- 18:45lot. Life is unpredictable, and I think just go with it. That's
- 18:52literally how it's really forced me to not be such a planner. I would
- 18:57love to be able to just carry on being an over organized planner, which
- 19:02is what I have been for the most of my life. I really obsessing
- 19:06over things and making sure that I'm prepared for every outcome. But it's pretty
- 19:10impossible with a hones and we've just got to take every day as it comes
- 19:14and hope for the best. I mean, he lives every day today,
- 19:18has so much fun and just makes the whole world happy. So if I
- 19:25can continue to do that for the rest of my life, then I've been
- 19:29so successful brilliant. That sounds absolutely fantastic. So thank you very much for
- 19:33joining me. The best of luck for you and your family for the future,
- 19:38and especially for the skydive as well. Thank you Don, Yes,
- 19:45definitely definitely, thank you ever so much for your time. Thank you,
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