Latest / The Original Self Podcast / Episode 17- Food Noise: Why You Can't Stop Thinking About Food
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- 0:12Welcome to the Original Self podcast. I'm Evet
- 0:15DeCota, owner of DeCota Life Coaching and a psychology
- 0:20-informed life coach exploring resilience, mindset,
- 0:24and the courage to become your authentic self.
- 0:27This is a space for honest conversations about
- 0:31growth. identity, relationships, and all the
- 0:35messy moments in between that shape who we become.
- 0:39Between the salon chair and coaching sessions,
- 0:42I've watched people move through life in patterns
- 0:44they rarely notice. Patterns that are subtle
- 0:48or familiar and incredibly hard to see from the
- 0:51inside. Today's episode begins with a simple
- 0:56question. How much time do you spend thinking
- 1:00about food? Most of us have never stopped to
- 1:04consider that answer. Today I want to explore
- 1:07why that question matters, and what does it reveal
- 1:11about the way food has come to occupy our attention.
- 1:16This is episode 17, Food Noise. Why you can't
- 1:21stop thinking about it. Hello and welcome back.
- 1:40In the last episode, we explored how hyper palatable
- 1:44foods are engineered to capture our attention
- 1:48and keep us coming back for more. We discussed
- 1:52how the combination of sugar, fat, salt, flavor
- 1:58enhancers and food technology can override the
- 2:02body's natural systems of hunger and fullness.
- 2:08More importantly, we discuss the possibility
- 2:11that many of the struggles that people experience
- 2:14around food are not evidence of weakness, but
- 2:19predictable responses to an environment designed
- 2:23to encourage consumption. At the end of that
- 2:28episode, I mentioned the term food noise. Over
- 2:33the last few years, the term has become increasingly
- 2:38common in conversations surrounding GLP -1 medications,
- 2:43like Ozempic, Wegovy, and ZepBound. People have
- 2:49described an unexpected experience when they
- 2:51first start these medications. And the headlines
- 2:55focus on the weight loss, which is completely
- 2:58true. They do help you lose weight. But many,
- 3:02many users described a quieting of the constant
- 3:06mental chatter around food in their minds. So
- 3:12what fascinated me was not just the medication,
- 3:17but the language people were using. Again and
- 3:21again, I read and heard people who had never
- 3:26met one another described the same experience.
- 3:29They talked about food taking up less spaces,
- 3:32less space in their mind. They described feeling
- 3:36relief. And some realized for the first time
- 3:41that not everyone spends as much time thinking
- 3:45about food as they do. The one I liked the most,
- 3:49I read this, described it as though a radio that
- 3:54had been playing in their heads for decades had
- 3:59suddenly had the volume turned down. My own experience
- 4:05is finally being able to stop thinking about
- 4:09the four pieces of pizza that were still left
- 4:11in the box simply because I wasn't hungry anymore.
- 4:16And then my brain just didn't think about it
- 4:19anymore. And listening and experiencing those
- 4:24stories really made me think, how much time do
- 4:28we actually spend thinking about food? I think
- 4:32most of us have never stopped to measure it.
- 4:35We simply assume it's normal. And that raises
- 4:40an interesting psychological question. If millions
- 4:44of people are suddenly discovering that food
- 4:47can occupy less mental space than they thought
- 4:50possible, what exactly was occupying the space
- 4:54in the first place? What is food noise? Where
- 5:00did it come from? And then why do people, some
- 5:05people, experience it more intensely than others?
- 5:08Because I know that I really experienced it.
- 5:12most of the time for a good portion of my life.
- 5:18And perhaps it's super important to think about
- 5:23what if this constant preoccupation with food
- 5:27is not simply an individual problem to solve,
- 5:31but a predictable response to the world we live
- 5:34in. So before we talk about where food noise
- 5:40comes from, We need to understand what it actually
- 5:43is. Because food noise is not the same thing
- 5:47as hunger. I think understanding the distinction
- 5:51may be very important part of this conversation.
- 5:57Hunger is a biological signal, right? It's your
- 6:00body's way of communicating that it needs energy.
- 6:04Hunger obviously builds gradually over time.
- 6:08And for most of human history, it served a completely
- 6:12practical purpose. It motivated us to seek food,
- 6:17eat enough to survive, and then move on with
- 6:21our lives, move on with our day. Food noise is
- 6:25something different. It's a mental preoccupation
- 6:30with food that exists whether you're physically
- 6:33hungry or not. It's a running commentary in the
- 6:37background of your day, that constant awareness
- 6:41of food, the planning of it, the bargaining with
- 6:44it, the anticipation, the cravings. And sometimes
- 6:51if you're me, most of the time, it's the guilt
- 6:56that accompanies thinking about food. For some
- 7:02food noise shows up as thinking about lunch while
- 7:05you're still eating breakfast or For others it
- 7:09appears as a promise that tomorrow is going to
- 7:13be different. You're you're gonna be good in
- 7:16quotations It can also look like scrolling through
- 7:21recipes despite having no intention to cook them
- 7:25or Like when I used to watch the Food Network
- 7:30on most days, I thought that I was absorbing
- 7:35chef skills when in reality I was only indulging
- 7:39my food noise. Another aspect of food noise is
- 7:44wandering into the kitchen when you're not hungry
- 7:47or feeling distracted by thoughts of food when
- 7:51your attention has to be somewhere else. What's
- 7:55interesting is that Many people who experience
- 7:58food noise don't necessarily expect it to ever
- 8:02disappear. It's just part of their daily life.
- 8:07That's why so many people were surprised when
- 8:11that noise quieted. For the first time we felt
- 8:19a different relationship with food. And that's
- 8:23when we realized that the noise wasn't as inevitable
- 8:26as we had once believed. Psychologists have long
- 8:33understood that our attention is influenced by
- 8:36more than biological need because humans are
- 8:40highly responsive to the cues in their environment.
- 8:45Psychologists have long understood that our attention
- 8:48is influenced by more than biological needs.
- 8:51because we're responsive to the cues in our environment.
- 8:56We notice things that are associated with reward
- 9:00and pleasure, comfort, and basically survival.
- 9:06For example, people can walk past a bakery and
- 9:10they may suddenly think of an almond croissant
- 9:14despite having eaten an hour ago or some people
- 9:20watching television may find themselves craving
- 9:22a product they had no interest in before the
- 9:25commercial appeared. Think about the millions
- 9:29of dollars advertisers spend on the Super Bowl
- 9:32alone. Commercials about McDonald's, Domino's,
- 9:37Snicker bars, and how DoorDash can deliver it
- 9:42to your door in under 30 minutes. The industry
- 9:46knows the power of how attention, memory, emotions,
- 9:53and reward interact. Food is uniquely powerful
- 10:00because it sits at the intersection of biology
- 10:05and psychology. We need it to survive. That's
- 10:09the biological part. But we also attach meaning
- 10:13to it. And then over time, our brains become
- 10:18very efficient to linking food to emotional experiences.
- 10:24The result is food begins to occupy mental territory,
- 10:29extending far beyond simple nourishment. Researchers
- 10:34have increasingly recognized that food noise
- 10:39appears to operate primarily in the hedonic hunger
- 10:43system. Remember, that's not, I'm super hungry
- 10:47and I need to survive. That's the pleasure reward
- 10:51part of hunger. This system cares less about
- 10:57the body's need for calories and nutrition and
- 11:00more about the brain's anticipation of a rewarding
- 11:05experience. That distinction, completely matters
- 11:09because it shifts the conversation away from
- 11:13the idea that people only eat because they're
- 11:15hungry. The more we learn about eating behavior,
- 11:21the more difficult it becomes to reduce it to
- 11:24a simple matter of choice. It develops within
- 11:29a culture where food is always available. It's
- 11:33relentlessly advertised. and it's constantly
- 11:37competing for our attention. Every day we are
- 11:42surrounded by cues designed to keep food on our
- 11:45minds, whether we're hungry or not. Yet despite
- 11:49all that complexity, many people still treat
- 11:54food noise as a personal failing. They assume
- 11:58that it's their preoccupation with food and they're
- 12:01flawed. I did. But perhaps another question is
- 12:08if so many people experience food noise Why are
- 12:13we treating it as an individual problem? What
- 12:17if it isn't a reflection of personal weakness
- 12:20or poor choices Again what if it's a predictable
- 12:27response to the environment we've created created
- 12:30around food To answer those questions We need
- 12:35to look at how food became more than food and
- 12:39how an entire industry learned to compete for
- 12:42one of the most valuable resources we have, our
- 12:47attention. Okay, so if food noise is partly a
- 12:53product of the environment around us, then it's
- 12:57worth asking, how did the environment come to
- 13:00be? Most of us think as food is something simple.
- 13:05Food is nourishment. Food is fuel. Food is pleasure.
- 13:12We assume that food companies are primarily in
- 13:15the business of selling products people wanna
- 13:18eat, right? But over the last several decades,
- 13:22something changed. Beginning in the 1980s, tobacco
- 13:28companies began purchasing food companies. Philip
- 13:32Morris acquired General Foods and later on Kraft,
- 13:37while R .J. Reynolds acquired Nabisco. But these
- 13:43were not random acquisitions. These were humongous
- 13:47industries in tobacco, in cigarettes. And then
- 13:53they purchased food companies. Their goal was
- 13:57not only to sell food, but to sell products people
- 14:01would continue to buy. The tobacco industry had
- 14:06already invested enormous resources in understanding
- 14:11what captured attention, what created desire,
- 14:17what encouraged repeat behavior. Those same principles
- 14:23proved incredibly valuable in the food industry.
- 14:27If this sounds familiar, it's because we touched
- 14:30on it last episode when we discussed hyperpalatable
- 14:32foods, how they override the body's natural signals
- 14:36of hunger and fullness, like I said in the beginning.
- 14:40But what these companies understood was that
- 14:44attention drives behavior. They work with lots
- 14:48of psychologists, lots of money spent in R &D.
- 14:53The longer A product, they found this. The longer
- 14:57a product occupies space in your mind, the more
- 15:00likely you are to buy it. The more often you
- 15:03buy it, the more profitable their product becomes,
- 15:07right? It's Econ 101. Food companies weren't
- 15:11just competing for shelf space. They were competing
- 15:15for space in your mind. For most of human history,
- 15:22obtaining food required great effort. You had
- 15:26to grow it or hunt it. You had to gather it,
- 15:29preserve it, prepare it. It demanded time and
- 15:33energy. But the flip side of that today? Resisting
- 15:40food often requires effort. Isn't that a remarkable
- 15:45shift? That's crazy. Think about how food appears
- 15:50in modern life. It's on television, social media,
- 15:54billboards. There's podcasts, streaming services,
- 15:59sporting events, even the food order apps on
- 16:03our phone. A few taps from that app and the food
- 16:08will be delivered to our doorsteps in less time
- 16:10it takes to watch one episode of a show. That
- 16:16helps explain why food noise is not simply an
- 16:18individual experience. It exists in an environment
- 16:23specifically designed to keep food visible, accessible,
- 16:30and competing for our attention. There's a predictable
- 16:36outcome when an entire system becomes exceptionally
- 16:40skilled at driving consumption. Unfortunately,
- 16:45the outcome are rising rates of obesity, type
- 16:492 diabetes, heart disease, and metabolic illnesses
- 16:56like high blood pressure. It didn't emerge by
- 17:01accident. And as those conditions become more
- 17:06common, then there's another industry that will
- 17:10profit from the consequences. The profitability
- 17:15of food and over consumption. created those health
- 17:21conditions, obesity rates climbed, type 2 diabetes
- 17:25became more common, and all of those health dysfunctions
- 17:32were widespread. Of course, let me just say no
- 17:39single food company caused these outcomes. There
- 17:42was no single factor. But Human health is always
- 17:48more complicated than that. We have to think
- 17:51about genetics, stress, sleep, socioeconomic
- 17:58factors, and lifestyle. It all matters. When
- 18:03I look at my own family, I see all those influences
- 18:06at work. Heart disease and type 2 diabetes have
- 18:11affected generation after generation. It's one
- 18:15of the reasons I wanted to create this series
- 18:18in the first place. But it's also difficult to
- 18:21ignore the role the environment encouraging people
- 18:25to think about purchase and consume more food
- 18:29than at any point in human history that's going
- 18:34on right now. The pharmaceutical industry did
- 18:38not create food noise or hyper palatable food.
- 18:41but it found itself in a position to treat many
- 18:44of the consequences associated with that. Medications
- 18:50for high blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes,
- 18:53weight loss, plus an ever growing list of treatments.
- 18:59It's part of our health landscape, the modern
- 19:02health landscape. All these drugs, you see it
- 19:04on television, on these commercials. One of those
- 19:09weight loss medications are GLP -1s. This drug
- 19:16though, the GLP -1s, they were originally developed
- 19:20for type two diabetes, but they quickly became
- 19:24part of a much larger conversation about weight,
- 19:28appetite, and food. What made them particularly
- 19:33interesting was not simply the effect on body
- 19:36weight, but their effect on our attention. People
- 19:41describe that food noise, that quieting of food
- 19:44noise, that they were less preoccupied with food.
- 19:49They were less distracted by their cravings.
- 19:53If you do experience food noise, but you've never
- 19:56tried a GLP -1 medication, I like to tell you
- 19:59about my experience. For nearly four decades,
- 20:04it was like I was a sheep blindly following diet
- 20:08culture's herd mentality. I counted points. I
- 20:13logged calories and apps. I readied my restaurant
- 20:17menu order before I even stepped foot in the
- 20:20building. I clung to the hope that the next diet
- 20:25would finally unlock lasting health and happiness.
- 20:29And I tried to control my body and mind by controlling
- 20:34food. Sound familiar? Over time though, points,
- 20:41calories, good and bad foods. They became a constant
- 20:48tug of war between, I don't know, control and
- 20:52chaos. I told myself it was discipline, but really
- 20:58it was mental noise. I've been overweight a long
- 21:02time. The weight didn't come on from a hard year
- 21:07or a loss, right? It accumulated through seasons
- 21:13of stress, boredom, and that relentless chatter
- 21:17in my brain. I thought about food, I planned
- 21:22it, I avoided it, I negotiated with it. All of
- 21:26that noise, it built into a cacophony that never
- 21:31seemed to quiet. Just for years, it was my normal.
- 21:38That cycle defined me. But then I learned everything
- 21:43I've been telling you in the last two episodes.
- 21:48I had to look honestly at the ultra -processed
- 21:51foods I was eating. The poor sleep patterns I
- 21:55had. I was normalizing it. And then I also live
- 22:00with chronic inflammation. A lot of it was probably
- 22:04from the foods I ate. The real epiphany came
- 22:09when I understood that stress elevates cortisol,
- 22:14which is a hormone in your body. When it's elevated,
- 22:18the majority of the time, your cravings increase
- 22:22and you store fat. It's that whole fight or flight
- 22:28response. You need your energy. So everything
- 22:31you put in your mouth, your body holds onto.
- 22:35It stores it. And then I finally realized my
- 22:40body and my mind weren't broken. They were adaptive.
- 22:47Then a prescription of a GLP -1 entered my world.
- 22:53And that background chatter of food noise actually
- 22:57stopped. I felt like I won the lottery or I discovered
- 23:05a cure. If that sounds hyperbolic, trust me,
- 23:11when you've lived with constant food noise for
- 23:13decades, its silence feels miraculous. It feels
- 23:19spacious, calm. And for whatever this means,
- 23:26it felt normal to me. For once. It was a completely
- 23:33new experience to me. For me and for many people
- 23:38the longer we stayed on the GLP ones The quieter
- 23:44the food noise got The cravings didn't demand
- 23:48the attention they once did they didn't go completely
- 23:51away They weren't they weren't gone completely,
- 23:54but they were very very quiet Like I said the
- 23:58negotiating the planning the guilt it began to
- 24:02lose its grip on me That grip felt like a chokehold
- 24:08I had lived with for decades. It was gone. I
- 24:13could breathe. I think it was life -changing.
- 24:19GLP ones have improved health markers. They've
- 24:22reduced disease risk and in some cases even reduce
- 24:27interest in behavior such as smoking, alcohol
- 24:31use, and even gambling. Researchers are still
- 24:36learning why this happens, but it appears these
- 24:40medications influence some of the same reward
- 24:45pathways involved in craving and anticipation.
- 24:50For many people, the result is a quieter relationship,
- 24:53not only with food, but the reward itself. The
- 25:00popularity of these medications has revealed
- 25:03that the conversation about obesity has never
- 25:06only been about weight. It's also about appetite,
- 25:11attention, reward, environment, and all the stories
- 25:15we tell ourselves about self -control. And perhaps
- 25:20the most interesting thing about the GLP medications,
- 25:25it's forced us to recognize the nature of the
- 25:28problem itself. If millions of people have suddenly
- 25:32discovered that the noise got quieter, then maybe
- 25:36the question we should ask is why was this noise
- 25:39so loud to begin with? For decades, the conversation
- 25:46about weight has revolved around how do I lose
- 25:50it? Entire industries have been built around
- 25:55answering that question. Think about it. Diet
- 25:59books. fitness programs, apps, influencers, and
- 26:03even healthcare providers have focused on helping
- 26:06people reduce a number on the scale. Success
- 26:13is measured by pounds lost, calories counted,
- 26:17clothing sizes, and that before and after photo.
- 26:23I mean, there was an entire show dedicated to
- 26:25it, The Biggest Loser, where people would lose
- 26:29hundreds of pounds in, you know, like a day.
- 26:32I'm kidding. But it was very quick. And I used
- 26:37to watch it. And I would, you know, at the reveal
- 26:40at the end, how much weight they had lost, I
- 26:43would cry. That's a whole nother episode of why
- 26:48that emotion got me so much. But I think it's
- 26:53people that have this food noise, people that
- 26:54are overweight, we strive to find the solution,
- 27:00to find the answer of what goes on in our brain.
- 27:04Why can we not stop? I can't help wonder if we've
- 27:11been asking the wrong question or questions the
- 27:16entire time. What if the most important question
- 27:20isn't how much weight you want to lose? What
- 27:24if it's more meaningful than that? What if the
- 27:28question was what kind of relationship do you
- 27:31want to have with food? Those aren't the same
- 27:34things. One focuses on an outcome while the other
- 27:38focuses on the experience. One is concerned about
- 27:43changing your body while the other is concerned
- 27:46with changing the way we live inside our bodies
- 27:51every day. When we talk about food noise, we
- 27:56rarely describe a desire to become obsessed with
- 28:01nutrition and calories or weight loss. What we
- 28:06describe is a feeling of carrying that extra
- 28:08mental burden. It's the realization that an extraordinary
- 28:14amount of attention has been devoted to food,
- 28:18to weight, dieting and body image. for years,
- 28:23for decades, for me, almost my entire life. That's
- 28:30what makes food noise such an important concept.
- 28:34I think it shifts the conversation away from
- 28:36weight and toward attention. The real cost of
- 28:41food noise is not simply what it may do to our
- 28:44waistline or our health markers, but to the mental
- 28:48space it occupies. Over time, That mental occupation
- 28:54becomes so familiar that we just stop noticing
- 28:57even if it crowds out other things that matter
- 29:02Family events You know people talk about their
- 29:06reunions like oh I have to lose all this weight
- 29:08and then they don't lose weight and often don't
- 29:11go Think about that. They missed out on an experience.
- 29:15I mean, I don't care about a high school reunion,
- 29:16but people do or a wedding or whatever that could
- 29:22be an important milestone in their lives, and
- 29:26they may miss out because of that food noise.
- 29:31Many people whose food noise has quieted describe
- 29:36not simply eating less, but they realize they
- 29:39have more room. They are more focused on work,
- 29:45relationships, hobbies, goals. basically experiences
- 29:51that have nothing to do with food. I feel much
- 29:57more present than I have been and felt in years.
- 30:04I think it's why this conversation matters. Obviously
- 30:07now we know food noise isn't only about food,
- 30:10it's about our attention. And if you think about
- 30:14it, wherever our attention goes, a piece of our
- 30:17life goes with it. Basically, we become what
- 30:22we repeatedly attend to. I've learned that awareness
- 30:28rarely changes our lives in a single dramatic
- 30:31moment. More often, it changes the questions
- 30:34we ask. For years, many of us have approached
- 30:39food as the problem to solve. You search for
- 30:44the right diet, the right plan, the right amount
- 30:46of willpower. always believing that if we could
- 30:51just find that missing piece, everything would
- 30:54fall into place. When I lose weight, I'm going
- 30:57to. When I lose weight, I will have the perfect,
- 31:02you fill in those blanks. But food noise, it
- 31:08definitely invites a different conversation.
- 31:11Again, instead of asking how to control food,
- 31:15we might begin by asking, what role we want food
- 31:18to play in our lives. Instead of viewing every
- 31:23craving as a failure and every indulgence as
- 31:27a setback, we could become curious about the
- 31:32forces that influence those choices. Curiosity
- 31:36often takes us farther than criticism ever will.
- 31:41Once we recognize the systems, the environment,
- 31:45the habits and patterns shaping our relationships
- 31:48with food, we're no longer operating on autopilot.
- 31:54We can't control every influence around us, but
- 31:59we can begin making decisions with a clearer
- 32:01understanding of what we're responding to and
- 32:05why. You'll stop asking, what's wrong with me?
- 32:11you start asking better questions. Questions
- 32:15that are rooted in understanding and not in shame.
- 32:22That shift brings me back to where this series
- 32:25began. Before the points, the calories, the apps,
- 32:31the diets, the endless advice about what we should
- 32:36and shouldn't eat. Eating was much simpler. There
- 32:41was hunger, there was fullness, there was pleasure,
- 32:45there was nourishment. Over time, a lot of us
- 32:51stopped trusting those signals. Food became tangled
- 32:56up with stress, with comfort. Food is identity,
- 33:03right? Reward, expectations, and food rules.
- 33:10Somewhere along the way, eating has become so
- 33:13complicated and that complication disconnects
- 33:18us from ourselves. What I hope you take from
- 33:23this episode and from this series so far, again,
- 33:28not a new set of rules. The world has so many
- 33:32rules around food. It lacks the understanding.
- 33:37the understanding that many of the struggles
- 33:41we carry around food are, again, not signs of
- 33:44weakness, but are human responses to complex
- 33:49influences that most of us rarely stop to examine.
- 33:56Awareness is not going to solve every problem.
- 33:59It's not going to magically remove cravings,
- 34:03erase habits, or make healthy choices effortless.
- 34:08What it will do, it provides a perspective. Perspective
- 34:15helps us change the conversations we have with
- 34:19ourselves. In this podcast, I'm not promoting
- 34:24GLP -1s. That's your journey. Whether you want
- 34:29to take them or not, that's totally up to you.
- 34:33I'm not trying to promote them. I'm just telling
- 34:36you what many have said about it and how I've
- 34:40experienced it, how I realized, became aware
- 34:44of this constant food noise and how it changed
- 34:50me, how I felt free. But that's all I'm saying
- 34:55about GLP -1s. Just know, if that's not your
- 34:58choice, that's not your choice. But now you're
- 35:00made aware of what food noise is, and if you
- 35:05are constantly occupied by it, maybe this episode
- 35:10can start to help you see the why of that. Remember,
- 35:18there was a version of you before the noise,
- 35:23before the rules, before food became something
- 35:25to negotiate with every single day. That version
- 35:30of you knew how to eat. It trusted hunger and
- 35:36recognized fullness. And that original self didn't
- 35:39spend cognitive energy bargaining with themselves
- 35:44over dinner. That person isn't gone. They just
- 35:49had a lot of noise layered over them. And understanding
- 35:54that, like really understanding, not another
- 35:58rule, is how we find our way back to our original
- 36:02self. In the next episode, we're going to move
- 36:07from the outside in. If the system was built
- 36:12to hijack your appetite, what's it actually look
- 36:15like inside your brain? Episode 18 will look
- 36:19at the neuroscience of why you eat, and we'll
- 36:22take a deeper dive into dopamine, stress chemistry,
- 36:27and the real emotional grip that willpower has
- 36:31on us. That's up next on the original self podcast
- 36:37Thank you for spending this time with me. I really
- 36:40appreciate it If you'd like to learn more about
- 36:43working with me, you'll find that information
- 36:46in the episode notes But until next time take
- 36:50good care of yourself