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Nartarsha Bamblett on Turning Her Gift Into a Business · She's On The Money

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Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations
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Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young
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Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, Kaka yah Ya bin Ahaka Nian our gay
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Speaker 1: in Mbina, yakarum Jar, Dominyamiga Umagahawakaman, damon Imlan Bomber bang
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Speaker 1: Gadabomba in and now in wakah Ghana on yak rum
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Speaker 1: Jar Water Nada. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on the
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Speaker 1: lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and respect
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Speaker 1: the Aboriginal people's land that we're gathering on today. Take
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Speaker 1: pleasure in all the land and respect all that you see.
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Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections,
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Speaker 1: bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive.
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Speaker 2: She's on the Money.
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Speaker 3: She's on the Money.
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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast
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Speaker 4: where we share the secrets to starting, growing and thriving
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Speaker 4: in your business. I'm your host of Victoria Devine, and
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Speaker 4: today we're going to be diving into a very special
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Speaker 4: business Diaries episode with a voice you might just recognize.
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Speaker 4: She's the powerhouse behind She's on the Money's acknowledgment of country,
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Speaker 4: a trailblazer in this space, an absolutely magic human being,
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Speaker 4: and an absolute force for change. Natasha bamblet aka the
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Speaker 4: Queen of Acknowledgments.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Even though you're on the show
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Speaker 3: every week, I know, it's so nice to actually be
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Speaker 3: here and be with you.
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Speaker 4: I'm so excited. This is such a good conversation. And
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Speaker 4: before or I know it's going to be a good conversation,
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Speaker 4: and before we get into it, I think we should
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Speaker 4: talk about how we met, because offline we were like,
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Speaker 4: oh yeah, like how did we meet? And we met
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Speaker 4: at it was International Women's Day event and you were
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Speaker 4: a guest at that event, as was I and I
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Speaker 4: remember seeing you. You were wearing themos gorgeous. I don't
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Speaker 4: know if you still have it, Hope you do zebra dress, yes,
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Speaker 4: and you looked so hot. Like I just looked at
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Speaker 4: you and I was like this woman, Oh my goodness,
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Speaker 4: who is she?
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Speaker 3: What does she do?
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Speaker 4: And so after like all of the like formalities happened,
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Speaker 4: I literally went up and introduced myself, was like, Hi,
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Speaker 4: I'm Victoria, and.
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Speaker 3: You just look like someone I would want to know.
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Speaker 4: And you're like Okay, so that's how we came to
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Speaker 4: be and you know, learn more about you and your
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Speaker 4: business and what you did. And then I was just obsessed,
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Speaker 4: like I loved the idea of a really meaningful acknowledgment,
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Speaker 4: and I think that that's where we could probably dive
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Speaker 4: in what were you doing before? Like, let's backtrack before
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Speaker 4: we actually dive in what were you doing before you
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Speaker 4: were the queen of acknowledgements? Like did you see yourself
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Speaker 4: running your own business? Were you already doing something?
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Speaker 2: Well? I had been doing it for a little.
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Speaker 1: While without it being what it is today as queen acknowledgments.
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Speaker 1: But I was just doing acknowledgments because that was just
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Speaker 1: a part of who you were. I am and bringing
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Speaker 1: that into the space of who it is that I'm
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Speaker 1: connecting with. And I started dancing. I started with a
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Speaker 1: group of kids in my shed dancing, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: this is what we're going to do because I knew
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Speaker 1: dancing could connect to all people. Music, dancing, moving our bodies.
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Speaker 1: It didn't have you know, age, gender, race, It connected
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Speaker 1: us all and it brained joy. And that's where I started,
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Speaker 1: and from then on it grew into workshops and my
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Speaker 1: acknowledgments were very short at the start. I didn't talk much.
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Speaker 1: I moved my body more than I did my mouth.
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Speaker 1: And then it just grew and somebody just said.
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Speaker 2: So is this what you do?
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Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, yeah, but like it's just
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Speaker 3: for fun, Yeah, just because I just.
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Speaker 2: Do it, because it's I just do it.
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Speaker 3: Were you always charging for it? Like, were people paying
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Speaker 3: you for this privilege?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: So I just did it.
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Speaker 3: It just come with what point, did you go, this
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Speaker 3: is actually something I need to be charging.
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Speaker 1: For twenty twenty so it seems still fresh. And it
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Speaker 1: was in a time where life was chaotic already. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I started working on myself and found myself in
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Speaker 1: like women's spaces and with sisters who were also had
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Speaker 1: business because I was like, I don't even know what
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Speaker 1: being a business woman is, even though that I was doing.
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Speaker 3: We're still just all making it up.
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Speaker 4: Now that you're in it, in it, are you like, Oh,
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Speaker 4: we all don't know what we're talking about. We just
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Speaker 4: walk into the room with enough confidence that people take
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Speaker 4: us seriously, and yeah, then we actually go to our
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Speaker 4: work for the business side of things.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, still figuring.
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Speaker 2: That out as I go, But I think I just
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Speaker 2: led with myself first. Yeah, and the business followed.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's been the beauty of discovering this
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Speaker 1: work that I get to do because I'm just really
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Speaker 1: being my authentic self.
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Speaker 4: And that is so beautiful and like, I mean, I
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Speaker 4: don't do anything similar, but like being able to find
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Speaker 4: your authentic self with the work that you do is
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Speaker 4: so liberating, Like you genuinely don't feel like you're working,
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Speaker 4: and it's very similar with what I do.
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Speaker 3: Like I adore what I do. But I remember back when.
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Speaker 4: I was a financial advisor for a demographic of people
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Speaker 4: I didn't resonate with for you know, content that I
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Speaker 4: was like, oh, I just I really don't love this.
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Speaker 4: I was consistently burnt out. I was overwhelmed, Like I
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Speaker 4: didn't feel inspired with the work that I do. And
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Speaker 4: now you might go, Victoria Devine, you are crazy, like
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Speaker 4: you do these crazy hours. You're a mum, you do
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Speaker 4: and it's exactly what you do. But like that's what
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Speaker 4: brings me energy. Yeah, Like, yes, I'm very happy. Like
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Speaker 4: last night I ran a webinar from like eight till
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Speaker 4: nine thirty pm, and lots of people will be like
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Speaker 4: you did that after a day.
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Speaker 3: Of work five.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to do that, Like I was so excited. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I would have been more disappointed if I wasn't able
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Speaker 4: to do that. And I think that when you find
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Speaker 4: that passion, like, yeah, we do need to instill a
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Speaker 4: lot of good work life balance, and they're still like
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Speaker 4: pushing back to maintain my priorities. But it's really about
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Speaker 4: that being nourishing instead of it being training.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I find like you, I wake up wanting to work,
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Speaker 1: wanting to do what I do in service of people
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Speaker 1: because I know it's impactful and it impacts me just
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Speaker 1: as much as it does those that are in my space. Yea,
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Speaker 1: I wake up with creative thoughts of what more can
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Speaker 1: I do and how more I can you know, impact
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Speaker 1: people that I haven't seen or you know, spoke with before.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 4: Talk to me about how you made it work financially?
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Speaker 4: What was it like going from you know, doing this
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Speaker 4: for free because you're like genuinely so passionate about it
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Speaker 4: and that comes across but then going, ah, actually my
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Speaker 4: fee is X, Like was that awkward or weird or
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Speaker 4: like that was I feel like most of us have
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Speaker 4: had that like a moment where you're like either I'm
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Speaker 4: under charging or I'm not charging.
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Speaker 3: What did that look like?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So I was like dabbling in the business, like one
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Speaker 1: foot in flirting with it, like doing this.
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Speaker 2: When somebody would approach me, thinking.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is amazing. I don't know, you know,
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Speaker 1: is this what I'm really here to do? And still
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Speaker 1: holding onto a job because that was that's what you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to do, Like that was what I was.
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Speaker 2: Totally good thing. That's like the sensible thing when you're
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Speaker 2: a mom and makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 3: I've done. You go get your full time employed job
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Speaker 3: because that is what the world expects of you.
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Speaker 1: And that fell apart in the most you know, blessed way. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because I had no security blanket, and it was like, well,
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Speaker 1: here's this thing that I do. It's a gift and
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Speaker 1: people are asking about it and wanting it. So I
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Speaker 1: went in and I had no idea what I was doing.
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Speaker 1: And there was moments where I was taking gift batches
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Speaker 1: and you know, a few one hundred dollars here and
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Speaker 1: there from it, and more asking like oh so like
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Speaker 1: what do you think you know, just not understanding that
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Speaker 1: this is a and.
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Speaker 3: How do you charge?
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Speaker 4: Like that's really, And I'm not asking you how you charge,
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Speaker 4: but like, how do you work out what value you
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Speaker 4: placed on it? Because it's a service, it's not a product.
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Speaker 4: And then on top of that, it's a very meaning
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Speaker 4: for service that I think needs a lot of respect.
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Speaker 4: And to me, it's not like you know, a service
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Speaker 4: like an accountant doing your bookkeeping. No, like it's a
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Speaker 4: different like how did you go?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like this is the right price to charge.
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Speaker 4: Like was that a process of conversation or thought or
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Speaker 4: where did you land?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: It was really hard because I didn't go to school,
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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't study for this. So it's it's
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Speaker 1: an ancient wisdom. It's culture and connection. So I'd had
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Speaker 1: a lot of people in my life that supported me,
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Speaker 1: you know, coaches at the time that were like, okay,
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Speaker 1: so this is a thing. And I had a lot
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Speaker 1: of other business women that were like this is you know,
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Speaker 1: they had a lot of ideas that they brain to me. Well,
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Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't seeing things the way they were
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Speaker 1: seeing it. So I think I just started with a
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Speaker 1: price and close my eyes and press some men.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel a bit sick.
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Speaker 4: So when you first it, you're like, they're going to
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Speaker 4: think that's astronomical.
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Speaker 2: And I just I put myself out there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Social media was a big, you know, part of my
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Speaker 1: growing of my business and the platform to what it
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Speaker 1: is today. So you know, I was I didn't even
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Speaker 1: have a website. I was just like put it out
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Speaker 1: there and say this is what you're off, meaning what
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Speaker 1: you're doing, and people wanted it.
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Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, well that's not how I
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Speaker 3: thought this would go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so then people started booking yeah, and I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this could be as easy and simple as that, you know.
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Speaker 1: So I had to go through a lot of limiting
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Speaker 1: beliefs and around making money and what that means and
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Speaker 1: what working for myself is and you know, the whole
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Speaker 1: new way of being and living and.
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Speaker 2: You know, business and mothering.
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Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Do you like when you first started, did you feel
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Speaker 4: that businesses really understood the value of acknowledgments of country
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Speaker 4: or did you feel like you also had to educate
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Speaker 4: them to get them on board in addition to doing it.
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Speaker 4: Because I know that you probably started from people who
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Speaker 4: you know, there was already a pre existing demand, right
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Speaker 4: and people like we would love for you to do
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Speaker 4: this for us and you go, yep, no worries. But
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Speaker 4: to scale a business you need to have consistent engagements.
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Speaker 4: You need consistent clients. Was that an education piece or
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Speaker 4: did you find that? You know, how did that work?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when it comes to acknowledgments or a cultural
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Speaker 1: sentiment piece, when you're offering a service to a business,
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Speaker 1: it's not just itself, it's me as well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's all weaved in as one. And yeah, there is
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Speaker 1: and there still will be an education piece.
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Speaker 2: And I think that is a part of it. That
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Speaker 2: is a part of what I get to do is
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Speaker 2: take people.
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Speaker 1: Along the journey with me and they learn, you know,
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Speaker 1: from the moment they inquire, you know, through the emails
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Speaker 1: or a conversation. And I understand that people are going
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Speaker 1: to get it wrong. You know, they're not going to
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Speaker 1: understand or have the full knowledge and scope of it.
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Speaker 2: And that's okay.
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Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's why they enjoy the process
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Speaker 1: of working with me, because you know, clients do learn
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Speaker 1: along the process. But yeah, we're learning, and we've still
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Speaker 1: got some more to learn. But yeah, I understood that
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Speaker 1: this is also a gift that I have is.
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Speaker 3: One thousand percent like, this is not just a service
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Speaker 3: you provide.
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Speaker 4: And for those of you who maybe you've heard the
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Speaker 4: beautiful acknowledgment at the start of our podcast, no doubt,
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Speaker 4: but it is only not even a tenth of the
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Speaker 4: energy that you put into you know, your live acknowledgments.
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Speaker 4: And we have been privileged enough at She's on the
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Speaker 4: Money to have you, you know, acknowledge at our live
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Speaker 4: events and oh my goodness, like the energy, Like there
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Speaker 4: have been times where I'm like, if we can't get Natasha,
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Speaker 4: I don't want it, Like I just I adore the
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Speaker 4: way that you do it. People like, and you've heard
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Speaker 4: this before, I know you have. But the way a
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Speaker 4: room connect, the way a room engages with you, and
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Speaker 4: the energy that carries on after in acknowledgement that you
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Speaker 4: perform is so above and beyond anything I've ever experienced.
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Speaker 4: And I think that it is you know, in corporate
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Speaker 4: there is definitely and it's not, you know, a secret.
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Speaker 4: We do know that people often see an acknowledgment of
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Speaker 4: country as a tick box exercise, and for me, that's
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Speaker 4: heartbreaking because it can be so much more like even
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Speaker 4: at the crux of it, like let's get rid of
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Speaker 4: all of the conversation about it. You are giving people
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Speaker 4: an opportunity to feel a little bit more grounded at
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Speaker 4: the start of a meeting. Wow, Like that is an
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Speaker 4: opportunity that we don't always get, but your approach makes
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Speaker 4: it so much more meaningful. What's the difference between I
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Speaker 4: guess a generic acknowledgment of country someone just.
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Speaker 3: Reads it off, and what you're doing and how it
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Speaker 3: should be done.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's an embodiment. We can all read off a
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Speaker 1: piece of paper, But do you actually connect to what
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Speaker 1: it is that you're saying?
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Speaker 2: Are you feeling it? Are you meaning?
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Speaker 1: Are you expressing it from a place that is beyond
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Speaker 1: the words? And I really encourage people to take a
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Speaker 1: different insight or a perspective. And what an acknowledgment of
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Speaker 1: country is. It's not just about acknowledging the place. It's
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Speaker 1: about acknowledging all that exists in the present moment.
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Speaker 2: And that's just the energy that I bring.
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Speaker 4: And yes, you literally do that in every facet of
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Speaker 4: your life. Like I swear, I don't know anybody who
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Speaker 4: has the same energy as you, like even you. Walking
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Speaker 4: into this podcast studio, I was like, God, Natasha is here.
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Speaker 4: I just know, like there's an energy shift, like and
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Speaker 4: I think that that's really your connection with the land,
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Speaker 4: the waterways, that everything you say it's an embodiment. I
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Speaker 4: can absolutely see that, and I just that's I think
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Speaker 4: what ends up making me so frustrated when I see
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Speaker 4: people just read it off a paper. I'm like, Oh,
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Speaker 4: you had such an opportunity there, Like that's that you
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Speaker 4: were already spending the time on it, Like you were
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Speaker 4: already like, oh, you just missed it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I see and feel. It is
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Speaker 1: a missed opportunity for the person who it's coming from.
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Speaker 1: And as an Indigenous person who's sat in the audience
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Speaker 1: when people have done it, you can feel the difference.
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Speaker 2: You can feel the difference of those who are.
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Speaker 1: Saying it to just do it and those who are
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Speaker 1: saying it to mean it and create an environment for
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Speaker 1: all people's whether it's First Nations or just all people
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Speaker 1: in the audience to understand that there's a presence here
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Speaker 1: and a grounding and an opportunity to connect to the
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Speaker 1: oldest living culture, which I think is a real blessing
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Speaker 1: and a privilege.
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Speaker 4: You know, and the fact that you want to share
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Speaker 4: that with us, Like how beautiful that that I just
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Speaker 4: I am obsessed with this idea that opportunity exists and
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Speaker 4: that after everything that happens, your culture is still so No.
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Speaker 4: We welcome you, we want to teach you, we want
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Speaker 4: to hold your hands and help you feel as connected
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Speaker 4: as you deserve to, but we don't deserve that.
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Speaker 1: I think it's my responsibility. I feel a responsibility to
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Speaker 1: my ancestors. I feel a responsibility to this country that
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Speaker 1: holds this richness that anybody that walks on this land
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Speaker 1: can feel the custodian ship of this place in their time,
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Speaker 1: and how that looks for us to care for it,
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Speaker 1: care for ourselves, our communities, our children, and the country
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Speaker 1: that has been supporting us. It's all of our responsibility.
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Speaker 1: And as a First Nations person, that's an advantage.
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Speaker 4: That I have one hundred percent. And it's just it's
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Speaker 4: so special that we get to experience that. But you
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Speaker 4: said before that you know, even when I'm sitting in
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Speaker 4: an order and someone reads off an acknowledgement of country
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Speaker 4: and they're just their heart isn't in it, and you
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Speaker 4: feel it, how does that feel as a First Nations person?
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Speaker 4: Is that really offensive? And you're like, Okay, cool. They
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Speaker 4: just don't get it, like, how do we Because from
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Speaker 4: my perspective and I've got no idea, I would assume
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Speaker 4: that's pretty disrespectful.
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Speaker 1: I'm not like all people, and I just speak from
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Speaker 1: your experience experience, and you know, my behalf is that
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Speaker 1: I want to hold their hand and I want to
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Speaker 1: go and connect them to country and to themselves and
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Speaker 1: allow them to feel what it feels like to acknowledge
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Speaker 1: from the heart and encourage them to go back out
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Speaker 1: and do it again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it definitely feels like hmm.
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Speaker 1: The meaning of acknowledgment is to truly feel acknowledged, and
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Speaker 1: sometimes that's missed and it's.
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Speaker 3: Literally in the name it. It's right there, guys, right there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Natasha, I hate to pull this to
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Speaker 4: a grinding hole, but let's go to a really quick
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Speaker 4: break and we'll dive back in on the flip side.
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Speaker 4: Let's shift a little bit back to business. This is beautiful,
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Speaker 4: but like we are talking business pricing obviously stupidly hard
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Speaker 4: for anybody, but you are offering something that people historically
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Speaker 4: haven't been used to paying for. This is something that
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Speaker 4: you know is now being embraced as it should be.
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Speaker 4: But not only have people not paid for it, they
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Speaker 4: haven't included it. How are you figuring out how to
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Speaker 4: have those conversations or you know when you do up
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Speaker 4: a quote and go great, this is my time, my energy,
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Speaker 4: my effort, this is what I am worth, full stop.
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Speaker 3: End of story.
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Speaker 1: Push back from that, Yeah, there was a lot of
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Speaker 1: interpersonal stuff that I needed to work on just on
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Speaker 1: a surface level.
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Speaker 2: But it's more than an acknowledgment. It's more than the
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Speaker 2: word itself. It is the energy. It is me as
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Speaker 2: a unique being and what I bring to all.
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Speaker 1: Of it and anybody else that doesn't acknowledgment, it's always
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Speaker 1: going to be different because the person is different. It's
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Speaker 1: coming from a different place and experience and embodiment.
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Speaker 2: So I've got to stay true to that.
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Speaker 1: There's times that I've you know, missed opportunities and lost
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Speaker 1: jobs and whatnot, but I've had to trust.
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Speaker 2: That this is something that I am honoring and understanding that.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a cultural you know, there's sacredness in that,
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Speaker 1: but there's also I'm here to hold true to the
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Speaker 1: value and the worth of my time and energy.
19:53
Speaker 3: I am a mum, Yeah, and that's like first and
19:55
Speaker 3: foremost yes, So I have.
19:58
Speaker 2: To make sure that it flow in with my life.
20:01
Speaker 1: And there's time I'm you know, spending away from my
20:05
Speaker 1: other responsibilities, so I.
20:07
Speaker 4: Need except for the sheese on the money even where
20:09
Speaker 4: you got to bring your babies.
20:10
Speaker 3: And I was like, this is the best.
20:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's been the you know, the beauty of
20:16
Speaker 1: it that I've been able to show up authentically.
20:19
Speaker 4: Not only do I get Natasha, I get two point
20:22
Speaker 4: zero like, oh and there's so cute. So like, I
20:27
Speaker 4: just feel like this space is so wildly misunderstood and
20:31
Speaker 4: I would assume and this is just assumptions. This is
20:34
Speaker 4: why we're having these conversations so that you can help
20:36
Speaker 4: guide me as well. But there is often this expectation
20:40
Speaker 4: that work that we do out of passion is not
20:44
Speaker 4: for profit, especially women, and then piling on First Nations women,
20:49
Speaker 4: they have it even harder. There's this expectation that they
20:53
Speaker 4: would discount their rates or you know, really want to
20:55
Speaker 4: work with a client. Have you had people question, ah,
21:00
Speaker 4: why would I pay for this or what does that
21:03
Speaker 4: look like? And how are you handling this pushback? Because
21:06
Speaker 4: I know that you're saying, oh, be like there have
21:08
Speaker 4: been times where I have lost you know, an opportunity
21:10
Speaker 4: to work with a client. I don't think that any
21:12
Speaker 4: opportunity that misses you was actually meant for you. Like
21:16
Speaker 4: if some reason they came into your own box and
21:18
Speaker 4: you said my price was my price and they said
21:21
Speaker 4: it's too much, like that was not meant to be
21:23
Speaker 4: to begin with. And I think letting it go graciously
21:25
Speaker 4: is really helpful because it's making time and space for
21:29
Speaker 4: those who do really value the work that you do.
21:32
Speaker 4: But how do you have to and how do you
21:35
Speaker 4: have the energy to consistently navigate those questions of people going, oh,
21:38
Speaker 4: I didn't think i'd have to charge for this, or
21:41
Speaker 4: you know, expecting it to be less because I even
21:46
Speaker 4: working in the finance space, I go, these are my
21:48
Speaker 4: workshop chargers who are, oh, well, actually.
21:51
Speaker 3: Our budget is this, can you still do it?
21:52
Speaker 4: And you're like, well, no, do you think that I
21:55
Speaker 4: just pulled that number out of nowhere and I just
21:57
Speaker 4: hoped i'd get that and oh yeah, no worries whatever
21:59
Speaker 4: you've got in your back pocket or do like that's
22:01
Speaker 4: less than ten percent of my fee, Like that is
22:04
Speaker 4: at this point taking the mickey, Yeah, how are you
22:07
Speaker 4: having those conversations with people who just maybe feel like,
22:12
Speaker 4: why should I pay for this, Natasha.
22:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few things.
22:18
Speaker 1: One I feel like, as time goes on, I am
22:22
Speaker 1: attracting more of the people who are aligned and see
22:24
Speaker 1: the fit of the value and my purpose in it.
22:28
Speaker 1: So I am saying, on the path of purpose and profit. Yeah,
22:35
Speaker 1: you know, we're on the path of purpose and profit. Yeah,
22:39
Speaker 1: purpose and profit. You know, it's been hard. I come
22:43
Speaker 1: from a community who, you know, we've always just given. Yeah,
22:49
Speaker 1: And I come from a family that we've just always
22:52
Speaker 1: just given. And I remember realizing that what do I
22:57
Speaker 1: give best is myself myself. So I've had to understand
23:03
Speaker 1: that giving myself, I can put a price to that.
23:07
Speaker 1: So that makes things work, because let's be real, we
23:12
Speaker 1: need money.
23:13
Speaker 4: GIF cards don't actually pay your bills. It's a weird flex,
23:16
Speaker 4: but they just don't. And at least give me, like
23:18
Speaker 4: a beauty, just give me something you actually want as well. Yeah, like,
23:23
Speaker 4: give me something that's helpful at least. And you said before,
23:27
Speaker 4: you know, let me put a price on myself. And
23:31
Speaker 4: there was always a price. It just wasn't financial. You
23:34
Speaker 4: were already paying in your time and your energy and
23:36
Speaker 4: your effort. And you know, I would imagine that these things,
23:41
Speaker 4: they nourish you, they get you know, you in the mood.
23:43
Speaker 4: But you're still going to go home having performed a
23:46
Speaker 4: very physical task. You're going to be tired. You did
23:49
Speaker 4: spend time away from your family. Like, yes, you're putting
23:52
Speaker 4: a financial price tag on that today, but hystorically, you've
23:57
Speaker 4: always been paying for it, and now it's other people's
24:00
Speaker 4: turn to pay for it.
24:01
Speaker 2: That's right.
24:01
Speaker 1: And I was paying more of a price than anybody
24:04
Speaker 1: else was paying me. And that's just how I.
24:08
Speaker 2: Was going home. I was burnt, I was spent.
24:11
Speaker 1: I would have headaches, and I couldn't be present in
24:14
Speaker 1: my life for the people who I, you know, loved
24:18
Speaker 1: and cherished the most. And that was the biggest price.
24:21
Speaker 1: So I said, all right, if I'm going to do this,
24:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to play baby. Yeah, put up the price,
24:28
Speaker 1: and if people meet me, then amazing. And if they don't,
24:31
Speaker 1: hopefully I can work with them again in the future
24:34
Speaker 1: when they come back, and they can.
24:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. So talk to me about work
24:38
Speaker 3: life balance. You have two beautiful boys and you have
24:41
Speaker 3: a mini on the way, you're gonna be or you're
24:43
Speaker 3: a mom of three?
24:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, three that's a full car.
24:46
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, exactly, like you were going to have to
24:49
Speaker 4: go to a seven seater at some point, babe, Like
24:51
Speaker 4: I don't know, I wouldn't be mad. And as somebody
24:54
Speaker 4: who now has a one year old, I get it,
24:56
Speaker 4: like I'm going to need some more babies like I
24:59
Speaker 4: adore it. But how are you managing work life balance?
25:02
Speaker 4: Because personally I'm finding it really challenging, Like I want
25:05
Speaker 4: to spend so much more time with Harvey, like I
25:08
Speaker 4: just obsessed with him. Yeah, when he falls asleep, I'm
25:11
Speaker 4: watching videos of him that I took that day on
25:13
Speaker 4: my phone, Like I never thought i'd be that, mum, Natasha,
25:16
Speaker 4: but we hear. So how are you managing work life balance?
25:20
Speaker 3: What does that look like?
25:21
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm managing of it. See I
25:24
Speaker 1: don't believe in it for me or like it just
25:27
Speaker 1: manages itself. Yeah, and I've got a ten year old
25:31
Speaker 1: and a two year old, so you know, there's vast
25:35
Speaker 1: differences in demand.
25:36
Speaker 3: There's a lot of different needs.
25:37
Speaker 4: You can lump them in and be like you guys
25:39
Speaker 4: are both going to enjoy duplo because your ten year
25:41
Speaker 4: old's going to be.
25:42
Speaker 1: Like, Mum, what the hell yeah, Yeah, he's more like
25:45
Speaker 1: a teenager than anything. So they have seen me since
25:49
Speaker 1: they were babies doing what I do, and they know
25:53
Speaker 1: it and they respect it, and they trust mommy to
25:59
Speaker 1: do what I'm doing because they've seen what it does.
26:02
Speaker 2: So I have a great family and partner and support network.
26:08
Speaker 2: Does that mean it's easy. Absolutely not.
26:11
Speaker 1: I have had moments where I've you know, just wanted
26:15
Speaker 1: to curl open a ball, and.
26:17
Speaker 3: You call me and I will deal with it. You
26:20
Speaker 3: call me. Anybody pushing back in your emails, I write
26:23
Speaker 3: a nasty one.
26:24
Speaker 1: Oh. And I also have, you know, been able to
26:28
Speaker 1: grow in my business with people in a team, and
26:33
Speaker 1: I have my wing woman who just comes in and
26:37
Speaker 1: helps me out. So having people in your network, whether
26:41
Speaker 1: it's somebody that works for you or just some one
26:45
Speaker 1: that you can call and say, hey, I need this,
26:50
Speaker 1: or can I ask you this, or can I tell
26:53
Speaker 1: you this and this, because what you're feeling is real
26:59
Speaker 1: and life's always not gonna.
27:01
Speaker 2: Look like pretty Instagram reels.
27:03
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, But we're so good at making them
27:06
Speaker 4: and lulling well into this false belief that that's my
27:08
Speaker 4: entire life, right, And I think that that's the reality
27:12
Speaker 4: of it. Have you found a really beautiful network of
27:14
Speaker 4: people to support you in that way?
27:16
Speaker 2: Yeah?
27:16
Speaker 1: I have in many facets physically, emotionally, spiritually, culturally, financially, family.
27:23
Speaker 3: And has that shifted and changed and grown and stretched
27:27
Speaker 3: and shrunk over time.
27:29
Speaker 1: As I've changed and evolved and grown into the person
27:33
Speaker 1: that I want to be, people in my circle change.
27:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:37
Speaker 4: It's wild, isn't it any People that you thought were
27:40
Speaker 4: going to be around forever?
27:42
Speaker 3: Yeah?
27:42
Speaker 4: Wow, we not not you just haven't disappeared, but like
27:47
Speaker 4: you just don't align with anything I stand for anymore.
27:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:51
Speaker 1: And I think when you are in business, especially as
27:55
Speaker 1: a woman, it can feel lonely.
27:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:57
Speaker 1: You know, and I've felt those moments in my life
28:00
Speaker 1: throughout ten years of trying to figure this out. But
28:05
Speaker 1: it's trusting your conviction and your purpose more than the
28:10
Speaker 1: challenge that you face in the moment.
28:12
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:13
Speaker 1: And people will show up. People will show up when
28:17
Speaker 1: sometimes you're not even looking or expecting it.
28:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:20
Speaker 4: I love that you mentioned before that your kids see
28:24
Speaker 4: respect what you do, Like they know they trust mom
28:27
Speaker 4: to go and do her work. What are you hoping
28:29
Speaker 4: that they take away from this? Like you mentioned before,
28:33
Speaker 4: like vie. I didn't go to school to learn this stuff,
28:36
Speaker 4: but like they're getting an education by watching mum, like
28:39
Speaker 4: start a business, like a mom can do it. Like,
28:41
Speaker 4: I feel like you're teaching them so much. But what
28:43
Speaker 4: are your hopes for what they take away from watching
28:46
Speaker 4: you do this?
28:47
Speaker 1: Yeah?
28:49
Speaker 2: The legacy that I want to leave is.
28:54
Speaker 1: The wealth and knowledge instilled in my children that they
28:58
Speaker 1: can thrive in both ways eld Yeah, and that being
29:02
Speaker 1: culture and that being in the world of business and
29:08
Speaker 1: making a life for themselves in however that fits, and
29:12
Speaker 1: that they don't have to fit into any boxes. Yeah.
29:15
Speaker 1: And if they want to make a pathway of sharing
29:19
Speaker 1: their culture and their connection, they can do so. And
29:22
Speaker 1: if they don't, then they get to choose. So fine,
29:24
Speaker 1: they've got the choice.
29:25
Speaker 2: They get to choose, and the choice is their's.
29:28
Speaker 3: I love that so much.
29:30
Speaker 4: Talk to me, you said before, you know, it's not
29:32
Speaker 4: all pretty Instagram reels? What's the day in the life
29:35
Speaker 4: actually look like.
29:38
Speaker 3: You're like, I don't really know.
29:40
Speaker 4: I'm the same, Like, what day do you want? Because
29:43
Speaker 4: Wednesday I'm in a studio all day. Thursday, who knows
29:47
Speaker 4: what I'm up to?
29:48
Speaker 1: Like, I don't even know for me, I try and
29:52
Speaker 1: have my mornings and nighttime routines very the same love
29:58
Speaker 1: that I was a free spe We're at a gypsy
30:01
Speaker 1: that would just do anything and anything wherever it would
30:03
Speaker 1: call me. I would be, you know, at any different place,
30:08
Speaker 1: at any different day. But these days I'm grounded. I'm
30:13
Speaker 1: committed to my practice that connects me to my.
30:16
Speaker 2: Body holy like wholeheartedly mind, body and spirit.
30:21
Speaker 1: So I meditate in the morning, and my children usually
30:23
Speaker 1: gravitate towards me, and then once I know that the present,
30:28
Speaker 1: it's like mum mode until the children are settled and
30:32
Speaker 1: eating and quiet, and then I go into work mode.
30:36
Speaker 1: And workdays. Each day are different because the demands are different.
30:41
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm still in the emails, you know,
30:46
Speaker 1: so still.
30:47
Speaker 2: Very humbled by the work that I get to do.
30:49
Speaker 1: And then some days I look glamorous and I'm on
30:52
Speaker 1: stage in front of thousands of people.
30:54
Speaker 3: That's very cool.
30:55
Speaker 4: But then other times you're just meditating in your loungdream
30:57
Speaker 4: and your kids climbing all over.
30:58
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love that there's hair's mess and.
31:03
Speaker 4: Look, honestly, I don't trust people who have it together
31:05
Speaker 4: all the time. Oh have you got perfect hair? All
31:07
Speaker 4: the time, Like I know that my photos online make
31:09
Speaker 4: me look like that I do not. I look like
31:11
Speaker 4: I have a rat snares most of the time. And
31:13
Speaker 4: you know what, that's why you can trust me. Yeah, yeah,
31:16
Speaker 4: that's why talk to me about I feel like, you know,
31:19
Speaker 4: throughout your journey, there would have been things that you
31:22
Speaker 4: know stressed you out in the early days. Is there
31:25
Speaker 4: something looking back you're like, oh, my goodness, b I
31:27
Speaker 4: was so stressed about this, and now I look back,
31:29
Speaker 4: it didn't even master Like, yeah, have you had those
31:32
Speaker 4: moments where you're like, I don't know why I gave
31:34
Speaker 4: that so much energy?
31:35
Speaker 3: It literally means nothing today.
31:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, two big things stand out for me. One pricing.
31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, if I do this, no one's
31:46
Speaker 1: gonna like me and want to buy from me and
31:49
Speaker 1: think that I'm you know, all these things that I'd
31:52
Speaker 1: had internalized of my own judgments right to myself and
31:57
Speaker 1: thinking that I couldn't do it and it wasn't possible.
32:00
Speaker 1: But as soon as you do it and somebody purchases
32:04
Speaker 1: or you know, books and should I be charging more?
32:08
Speaker 1: You know, having this mini panic attack and then you know,
32:11
Speaker 1: as soon as you get there, everything just feels easy,
32:16
Speaker 1: and you know, I've had moments where I'm like, can
32:19
Speaker 1: this really be my life?
32:21
Speaker 3: Is this real life? Is this what I get to do?
32:24
Speaker 1: This?
32:24
Speaker 2: And a great yeah?
32:26
Speaker 1: So and I get to go to fancy fun events
32:29
Speaker 1: and connect you would, yeah people, and I'm just like,
32:33
Speaker 1: this is my life. And one time, you know, I've
32:35
Speaker 1: had my partner there with me, and you know it
32:39
Speaker 1: is it has been a family affair sometimes that we've had,
32:42
Speaker 1: you know, my parents involved, and it's just like I
32:46
Speaker 1: get to spend time with my family and make money
32:49
Speaker 1: and be of service and have impact.
32:51
Speaker 3: So that's a good deal.
32:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, sign me up for that. I want
32:55
Speaker 2: more of that. So that was one and then the
32:58
Speaker 2: other one was social media.
33:00
Speaker 3: Okay, talk to me about social media.
33:03
Speaker 1: Social media is a platform where you're out there for
33:09
Speaker 1: people to see you and hear you and or open
33:12
Speaker 1: to their judgments and opinions.
33:15
Speaker 2: And I remember being really afraid of it wasn't being
33:21
Speaker 2: out there, but it was being myself. Okay out there.
33:25
Speaker 4: You're like, you can put pictures in me everywhere, but
33:27
Speaker 4: like showing you who I really am. And that's a difference.
33:29
Speaker 1: I can pick the best one, you know, the one
33:32
Speaker 1: that looks the most prettiest. It be so good at that, right, Yeah,
33:35
Speaker 1: you know the photoshopping or whatever that looked like back then.
33:38
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, let's just in real life showing
33:44
Speaker 1: up because the reactions and responses that I get from
33:49
Speaker 1: particularly women and mothers, they're just like I needed that, Yes,
33:56
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that, and I needed to see
33:59
Speaker 1: you show up in that because that's what's going on
34:02
Speaker 1: for me too, and the connections that I've made from
34:06
Speaker 1: showing up authentically as myself, I'm now addicted to it.
34:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, and it just gets better and better.
34:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
34:14
Speaker 4: Like it's wild how much emphasis we put on the
34:18
Speaker 4: value of someone's opinion that's an individual we'd never want
34:23
Speaker 4: to trade places with. Yeah, and you're like, hold on,
34:26
Speaker 4: why am I valuing that opinion at all? When I
34:29
Speaker 4: don't want to be anything like them? Like why am
34:31
Speaker 4: I taking feedback from a place that doesn't get me?
34:35
Speaker 1: Yeah?
34:35
Speaker 4: And so I think that's very hard and it's genuinely
34:38
Speaker 4: still something that I struggle with, like im and I
34:41
Speaker 4: think as you grow, like your business grows and changes
34:44
Speaker 4: and things ebb and flow, I go through periods of
34:47
Speaker 4: being really confident and putting lots of content out and
34:50
Speaker 4: then you're like, oh, this is actually really big and
34:53
Speaker 4: you kind of like feel yourself pulling back and you
34:55
Speaker 4: have to like do some more inner ware and be like, well,
34:57
Speaker 4: why am I feeling this way? And it might be
34:59
Speaker 4: because it's become overwhelming again, or maybe you did get
35:02
Speaker 4: some negative feedback and you took it on board that
35:06
Speaker 4: you needed to zoom.
35:06
Speaker 3: Out and go.
35:07
Speaker 4: Actually that was so not valid, Like that was you know,
35:12
Speaker 4: I like to look at all pieces of feedback and go,
35:14
Speaker 4: you know, can I learn something from this? Because you know,
35:17
Speaker 4: the loudest voices they might not be correct, but consistency
35:21
Speaker 4: is what I look for. Yeah, so I think that,
35:24
Speaker 4: you know, if someone's consistently saying X or Y, I'm like, okay, cool,
35:27
Speaker 4: Like where's this coming from?
35:29
Speaker 3: Is this something that I could learn from?
35:30
Speaker 1: Grow from?
35:31
Speaker 3: Change and let's implement that.
35:34
Speaker 4: And that can be hard in itself, because like we
35:36
Speaker 4: don't like being told we're wrong, we don't like feeling
35:38
Speaker 4: like we're doing the wrong thing or like we do
35:41
Speaker 4: need to change, but that can be liberating in itself,
35:44
Speaker 4: and I just I resonate so much with that because
35:47
Speaker 4: it's just so relevant.
35:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the as time goes on, the more I've
35:56
Speaker 1: felt confident in who it is that i am. And
36:00
Speaker 1: there's many parts of me. Yeah, I play many roles,
36:04
Speaker 1: you know, and Natasha just gets to be all of
36:09
Speaker 1: them at any given moment. But there's been times, especially culturally,
36:13
Speaker 1: you know, there's cultural protocols and you know, different areas
36:17
Speaker 1: and mobs do different things, and I'm learning.
36:21
Speaker 2: I am no expert, no.
36:23
Speaker 1: Guru in this this life and field and you know,
36:28
Speaker 1: subject of culture by all means. So yeah, I've had
36:32
Speaker 1: moments where people have come to me, checked me, and
36:37
Speaker 1: I always go back to my family, and you know,
36:39
Speaker 1: there's go.
36:40
Speaker 2: Back to yourself.
36:42
Speaker 3: You can go back. So I heard this and.
36:46
Speaker 1: Always open with a curious mind and an open heart,
36:49
Speaker 1: like I said, to learn and receive, you know, feedback
36:52
Speaker 1: and take from that what works. And also if you
36:57
Speaker 1: know who you are and where you come from, like
37:01
Speaker 1: that's a really good place to be and start and
37:04
Speaker 1: to always go back to whenever you need.
37:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it can be overwhelming, especially if
37:09
Speaker 4: you're a woman in business like you just you're already
37:12
Speaker 4: putting yourself out there. That feels really unnatural. But I
37:15
Speaker 4: think I make peace with the fact that I know
37:19
Speaker 4: inherently I'm good, I am kind. Everything I'm doing is
37:23
Speaker 4: coming from a place of love, and at the end
37:25
Speaker 4: of the day, yes, I'm not going to be a
37:27
Speaker 4: correct one hundred percent of the time. In fact, if
37:29
Speaker 4: I think I know everything, I need to get out
37:31
Speaker 4: of the game, because like this game is always moving. Yeah,
37:34
Speaker 4: And so I think if I'm always doing it with
37:37
Speaker 4: the right intentions, that's always going to ultimately shine through.
37:40
Speaker 2: That's right.
37:41
Speaker 3: And I think that that really helps me go.
37:43
Speaker 4: No, even if I'm turning up and I say something
37:45
Speaker 4: silly online or do this or do that, like go
37:48
Speaker 4: back to my roots. You know that inherently I'm operating
37:51
Speaker 4: in good faith, And I think, to me, that's the
37:54
Speaker 4: most important thing.
37:56
Speaker 3: Talk to me. I know that I'm running out of
37:57
Speaker 3: time with you, and I hate that.
37:59
Speaker 2: Talk to me about what you.
38:00
Speaker 4: Think is the most important skill that you have that
38:04
Speaker 4: has led to success in your business.
38:07
Speaker 2: Adaptability.
38:08
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that she's so quick at that response.
38:11
Speaker 3: She's adaptable.
38:14
Speaker 1: Like you said, there's always things changing, moving, evolving. Things
38:21
Speaker 1: become relevant and irrelevant very quickly. In this time, we're
38:26
Speaker 1: just learning to be adaptable. Assessing the moment. Every room
38:32
Speaker 1: that I step in to do what I do is different,
38:35
Speaker 1: even if there are a bunch of women in each room.
38:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's each different.
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Speaker 2: Woman has an energy, you know, like that.
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Speaker 1: You're doing the event for every event's different. So just
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Speaker 1: being able to adapt the energy to that has been
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Speaker 1: a skill that I've grown over time. And I love
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Speaker 1: that because it's so relevant.
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Speaker 4: But it's also so hard to hone in on, Like
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Speaker 4: that is not something that is easy, and like, as
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Speaker 4: somebody who hates change, like, I need to learn more
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Speaker 4: from you about being more adaptable because that's not usually
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Speaker 4: for me. Now for First Nations women and people who
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Speaker 4: are listening to this and they're like, my goodness, like
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Speaker 4: I'd love to do what Natasha does. What advice do
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Speaker 4: you have for them? Because obviously you're not going to
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Speaker 4: get into this space if you don't have that background.
39:21
Speaker 4: But then also I feel like I speak to so
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Speaker 4: many beautiful people in our community who are First Nations women,
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Speaker 4: and they, you know, they just don't have the confidence
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Speaker 4: they deserve to have, Like you are so powerful and
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Speaker 4: so beautiful and if you just stepped out, like you
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Speaker 4: could be exactly who you say you want to be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see this, see this in my family and
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Speaker 2: my community.
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Speaker 1: There are sisters out there that have got it, that
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Speaker 1: have got magic. You know, we call that, you know,
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Speaker 1: black magic. You've got a gift, You've got something to give,
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Speaker 1: and each person does.
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Speaker 2: But to my sisters, I would.
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Speaker 1: Just say, follow the calling, trust yourself. You're here for
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Speaker 1: a purpose and a greater purpose at that that we
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Speaker 1: come from sixty five thousand plus years of lineage, ancestry
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Speaker 1: and warriors. And if you feel a calling to share that,
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Speaker 1: then find women who are already doing it, get connected,
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Speaker 1: get them a part of your network. And sometimes we
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Speaker 1: just have to like copy and paste and then put
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Speaker 1: our own essence into it, you know.
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Speaker 2: Like follow what works.
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Speaker 3: I say, you don't need to reinvent the wheel.
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Speaker 2: No, like jump on the things that are.
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Speaker 1: Already moving and working and put your own self, story,
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Speaker 1: essence and flavor into it because no one is you,
40:52
Speaker 1: and you're going to bring something different to every room
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Speaker 1: and experience.
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Speaker 2: I love that that is.
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Speaker 3: Genuinely so powerful.
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Speaker 4: Feel like this whole conversation has felt like people who listen,
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Speaker 4: I feel like they're just going to feel your energy.
41:05
Speaker 4: They're going to feel grounded, they're going to feel like
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Speaker 4: this was really really powerful for them. And I feel
41:10
Speaker 4: like we've covered so much. We've discussed, you know, the
41:12
Speaker 4: different challenges you've faced in your business. We've talked about pricing.
41:15
Speaker 4: We've talked about, you know, how to get people around
41:18
Speaker 4: when it comes to acknowledgments of country and making sure
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Speaker 4: that you are actually acknowledging the country. We've talked about,
41:25
Speaker 4: I guess the financial realities of like not getting paid
41:28
Speaker 4: and potentially losing clients because we're just going to put
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Speaker 4: some boundaries in place, and that's so important. But I
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Speaker 4: think you and I can both agree the more you
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Speaker 4: put those boundaries in place, the more the right clients
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Speaker 4: find you. That's right, Like it's crazy you say no
41:42
Speaker 4: to people and you're like, oh my goodness, am I
41:44
Speaker 4: doing the right thing? And then around the corner there
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Speaker 4: is another client that is bigger and better and exactly
41:49
Speaker 4: what you were looking for. Like, it's crazy how that works.
41:54
Speaker 4: And I think people often don't understand the value and
41:58
Speaker 4: the reality of running business and also being a mum.
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Speaker 4: I am learning real quick. You have been doing this
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Speaker 4: for ten years, and I just I'm so grateful to
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Speaker 4: have you share your story. With our community, but also
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Speaker 4: kind of just a little bit of a mentor today.
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Speaker 4: So I'm grateful for that.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for having me of course, my goodness,
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Speaker 4: I feel like that is a perfect place to end, Natasha.
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Speaker 4: I adore this, and I feel like, honestly one of
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Speaker 4: the most powerful Business Bible episodes I've ever done. But
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Speaker 4: for anyone who's listening, thinking, holy moly, this woman does
42:31
Speaker 4: have that energy, she does have that vibe. I need
42:33
Speaker 4: more of her in my life. Where can I find
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Speaker 4: the Queen of Acknowledgments?
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Speaker 1: You can find Queen of Acknowledgments on Instagram, as the
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Speaker 1: name suggests, Queen Acknowledgments, or on my website, and I
42:45
Speaker 1: look forward to.
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Speaker 3: All the in any of our Yeah, she's right there, guys.
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Speaker 1: Or you might find me on stage at an event
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Speaker 1: you find yourself.
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Speaker 2: If you should be so lucky, Yasha, please come and
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Speaker 2: say hello, because I'd love to give this piece.
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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 4: All right, well, I'm going to link literally everything in
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Speaker 4: the show notes. You're in all the other show notes
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Speaker 4: as well. This has been a really inspiring conversation, and
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Speaker 4: I know so many of our listeners are going to
43:10
Speaker 4: take so much from it. If you guys love today's episode,
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Speaker 3: See you next time.
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