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Nobody Should Believe Me
Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave…
Episodes
Nobody Should Believe MeJesika Jones Part 2 with Derek Jones (rebroadcast)
In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how…
Nobody Should Believe MeJesika Jones Part 1 with Detective Mike Weber (rebroadcast)
Today we’re re-airing part 1 of the Jesika Jones case in Texas. Look out for part 2 with the father, Derek Jones, in the feed tomorrow! *** This week on case…
Nobody Should Believe MeCatching Up with Mishelle and Aunt Sabrina
In this follow-up to Season 6, Andrea reconnects with Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina to talk about life after sharing Collin’s story. They reflect on what it’s…
Nobody Should Believe MeWhat “The Preventionist” Left Out with Dr. Randy Alexander
In this episode, we close out our coverage of Serial’s The Preventionist with Dr. Randy Alexander, one of the most experienced child abuse pediatricians in the…
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How Do We Prevent Child Abuse? With Kathleen Strader
This week we’re re-releasing Andrea’s conversation with Kathleen Strader from Prevent Child Abuse America. While Nobody Should Believe Me is, at its core…
Nobody Should Believe MeThe Human Cost of “The Preventionist” with Dr. Sally Smith
In this episode, Dr. Sally Smith is back on the mic to share her reaction to the recent appellate ruling that overturned the massive judgment against Johns…
Nobody Should Believe MeIntroducing: Dakota Spotlight Season 12
Meanwhile in Mankato: Lies, Silence & Murder in Minnesota In 1965, a teenager killed a gas-station clerk near Mankato and was sentenced to forty years. He…
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Dr. Jessica Pryce on the Harms of the Child Welfare System
In light of the overturned ruling of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins and Serial’s The Preventionist, we’re reairing an episode from our Kowalski season in which…
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“The Preventionist” Erases Munchausen by Proxy with Dr. Jim Hamilton
In the second part of Andrea’s rebuttal to The Preventionist, Serial Productions’ podcast on child abuse pediatrician Dr. Debra Jenssen, she speaks with Dr…
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Kowalski v Johns Hopkins overturned with Ethen Shapiro
In this episode, Andrea sits down with Ethen Shapiro, trial counsel for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital, to unpack the landmark appellate decision…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 25: Olivia Gant Part 2
In this episode, Andrea continues delving into the Olivia Gant case with Detective Melissa Kalish, who uncovered the vast fraud and abuse behind Kelly Turner’s…
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Abuse Survivors and Victims Deserve Better than 'The Preventionist'
In response to Serial Productions’s series The Preventionist, we’re re-airing our episode “What’s Happening in Lehigh?”, where Andrea and Dr. Marc Feldman dive…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 25: Olivia Gant Part 1
The disturbing parallels between Collin McDaniel and Olivia Gant's cases led Andrea to speak with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of…
Nobody Should Believe MeIntroducing: Affirmative Murder
This week Fran and Alvin discuss food, Pakistan, and American history. *** Listen to Affirmative Murder…
Nobody Should Believe MeAnswering Your Season 6 Questions
In this episode, Andrea and the Nobody Should Believe Me team reflect on the emotional impact of making season 6 and the ethical considerations of reporting on…
Nobody Should Believe MeIntroducing: Fruitloops
Two cousins. Four murders. One homicidal summer. In 2004, Angel Ford-Wright & Caroline Peoples lured victims with false promises, then executed them. One…
Nobody Should Believe MeTrue Story Media Presents: Fruitloops
Welcome to the final installment of True Story Media Presents! This week Andrea is talking to Wendy and Beth, the creators behind Fruitloops: Serial Killers of…
Nobody Should Believe MeIntroducing: PRETEND
LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch…
Nobody Should Believe MeTrue Story Media Presents: PRETEND
In the third installment of True Story Media Presents, Andrea sits down with Javier Leiva—host and creator of PRETEND. The two talk about how they first…
Nobody Should Believe MeIntroducing: Dakota Spotlight
September 1998 brought a chilling moment in Bismarck, North Dakota, when 17-year-old Aimee walked into the police station. She suspected her boyfriend, Brian…
Nobody Should Believe MeTrue Story Media Presents: Dakota Spotlight
In this special crossover, Andrea talks with James Wolner, creator of Dakota Spotlight—another show in her True Story Media network—about how a rumor in a…
Nobody Should Believe MeTrue Story Media Presents: Affirmative Murder
We’re kicking off our new series introducing the shows of True Story Media, Andrea’s ethical true crime network. In this conversation, Andrea sits down with…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E10: Ripple Effects
This week, we hear more from Mishelle about the impact of The Guthy Jackson Foundation’s response to the revelations about Lisa McDaniel is having on her…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E09: Fallout
As the story of the McDaniel family continues to send shockwaves through the communities Lisa was involved with, we check in with Mishelle about what else has…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 24: Women Who Lead Double Lives with Sarah Treleaven
Today we have a very special crossover episode with journalist and host/producer of The Con: Katilyn’s Baby, Sarah Treleaven. Sarah and Andrea recount how they…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 23: Mike Weber Retirement Special
Welcome to the Mike Weber Retirement Special! Mike gives us a brief glimpse into what he’s been up to since retirement and talks to Andrea about his experience…
Nobody Should Believe MeNSBM After Hours: Anatomy of Lies Part 1
We're unlocking an episode from the subscriber feed. Enjoy! *** This is the first part of Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Peacock documentary series…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E08: May He Rest
In our season finale, Andrea comes face-to-face with Lisa McDaniel, the woman at the center of this story when she arrives on her doorstep with television…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E07: Cleaning Out the Basement
Mishelle recounts how she and her sister, Angellyn, stumbled upon their past medical and court records while helping Lisa and Carey move. This discovery…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E06: Dr. Ness
On this week’s episode, we hear Mishelle’s phone call with Dr. Jayne Ness, Collin’s treating physician, who shares concerning insights into Collin’s…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E05: “But she’s my mama”
As Lisa escalates Collin’s medication regimen and pushing for risky experimental treatments, we examine the gulf between Lisa’s reports of Collin’s symptoms…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E04: The Caretaker
Mishelle describes her brother Collin as a vibrant little boy who loved to joke around and make people laugh. All of that changed, seemingly overnight. Sabrina…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E03: “Open, Reliable, and Trustworthy”
We begin this week’s episode with a young Mishelle struggling to adjust to life with her grandparents, finding it difficult to accept both the separation from…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E02: “How Could Someone Do That to a Child?”
Lisa’s second child, Angellyn, was born prematurely and in a medically fragile state. Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina recount a troubling pattern: just as…
Nobody Should Believe MeS06 E01: The Advocate
This season on Nobody Should Believe Me, we tell the story of Lisa McDaniel, who crafted a public image as the Director of Patient Advocacy at the Guthy…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 22: Rady Children’s Part 6
This week on Nobody Should Believe Me, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive further into the allegations against Dr. Paolo Bolognese, discussing the whistleblower complaint…
Nobody Should Believe MeSeason 6 Trailer
Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me–out weekly starting June 19, available in full for subscribers at launch– covers the extraordinary and tragic saga of the…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 21: Rady Children’s Part 5
This week, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive into the controversial Dr. Paolo Bolognese, a neurosurgeon with a significant number of malpractice lawsuits and explore his…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 20: Rady Children’s Part 4 with Dr. Mary Sanders
In the 4th part of our Case Files series on Rady Children’s, Andrea and Dr. Mary Sanders from Stanford University deep dive into the emotional and legal…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 19: Rady Children's Part 3
We left off in the previous episode with Madison Meyer being returned to her parents after more than a year in state custody—yet still hospitalized at Rady…
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S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century
We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023. *** With a verdict in the case days away, host…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 18: Rady Children’s Part 2
In part two of our series on the lawsuit against Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex continue unpacking the story of Madison Meyer, whose…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 17: Rady Children’s Part 1
In the first part of our four part Case Files series diving into the upcoming lawsuit against Rady Children’s in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex start with…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 16: Mom and Dad
In season 5, we shared a bit of Andrea’s conversation with her parents, and we’re releasing even more in this episode of case files. If you’ve been with us…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 15: Everyday Cults with Rachel Bernstein
In this week’s episode of Case Files, we’re joined by Rachel Bernstein, a therapist specializing in cults and the host of the podcast IndoctriNation. Andrea…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 14: Susan Smith and the Impact of False Accusations with Celisia Stanton
In this episode, Andrea is joined by Celisia Stanton, the host and creator of Truer Crime. Andrea and Celisia dive into the Susan Smith case, a story that…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 13: The Andreas of Ethical True Crime with Andrea Gunning
This week, our Andrea is joined by Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal and There and Gone: South Street. Gunning speaks on her transition from…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 12: Talking Shop with Brittani Ard
We have a very special bonus episode for you all! Andrea is joined by Brittani Ard, the host and creator of the breakout show, You Probably Think This Story’s…
Nobody Should Believe MeAnswering Your Season 5 Questions
Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we’re joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead…
Nobody Should Believe MeCase Files 11: New Media Journalism and Death Eaters with V Spehar
We have a very fun guest on NSBM Case Files this week: V Spehar aka Under the Desk News! In this engaging conversation, V and Andrea discuss the whirlwind that…
Nobody Should Believe MeSeason 5 Breakdown with Detective Mike Weber
To officially wrap up season 5, we’ve brought in our friend, Detective Mike Weber, to discuss his thoughts on the police investigation into Sophie Hartman. He…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 E09: Out of the Shadows
Episode 8 was originally our season finale, but a source we’d been speaking to for months bravely decided to go on the record. This is Andrea’s conversation…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep08: They Saw You
In our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carter and others, as she files a lawsuit…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep07: Who is This Bad Soul?
We examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. We’re joined by Dr. James…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep06: Human Timebomb
Sophie insists to police and others that the real problem isn’t that she’s abusing her daughter but that Seattle Children’s–a world class pediatric…
Nobody Should Believe MeThe Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
It's pub day!! The Mother Next Door is officially out in the world. Thank you to everyone for all of your support! For our amazing podcast listeners, we have a…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep05: The Breaking Point
In 2020, the Hartmans grow even more isolated as Covid hits: Sophie pulls C out of school citing worsening health and breaks with the church community who’ve…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep04: When the Cameras are On
From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep03: Constant Crisis
Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues. Just three days…
Nobody Should Believe MeS05 Ep02: Spiritual Warfare
In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview. From claiming that adopting a child from…