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Typology
Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists…
Episodes
TypologyName It...then Tame It, feat. Mark Scandrette, pt 1 of 2 [S02-007]
Every day listeners email asking, "I know my type, now what?" Well, the truth is that simply knowing your Enneagram type doesn't change anything in and of…
TypologyWe Can Laugh: Life with Dave Barnes (Enneagram 7) [S02-006]
Open to new experiences, Sevens are self-confident, optimistic and joyful people who exude loads of energy. They bring a sense of adventure and energy to their…
TypologyThe Bible Project, feat. Tim Mackie and Jon Collins (Enneagram 5) [S02-005]
The Enneagram is a great tool for discovering why we feel the way we feel, act the way we act, and think the way we think. For Fives, who are unconsciously…
TypologyTrusting Your Self, feat. Jeff Chu (Enneagram 6) [S02-004]
Sixes have excellent analytical minds, are great strategists, troubleshooters, problem-solvers, and of course, see worst-case scenarios that other people don't…
TypologyPart 2 of 2: Looking into the Shadow...A Hero's Journey, feat. Claire Diaz-Ortiz (Enneagram 3) [S02-003]
When you truly begin doing your work, the Enneagram really should mess with you. It should dis-equilibrate you, throw you back on your heals, make you wonder…
TypologyInstincts and Subtypes with Aaron Niequist [S02-002]
Welcome back to Season 2 of Typology. I'm thrilled to continue Season Two with a really great friend who I've known for many years, Aaron Niequist. Though…
TypologyLooking into the Shadow...A Hero's Journey, feat. Claire Diaz-Ortiz Part 1 of 2 (Enneagram 3) [S02-001]
Claire Diaz-Ortiz first discovered the Enneagram in 2005 and typed herself as an Enneagram One. When Ian first interviewed Claire in Season One, she came onto…
Typology054: [Revisited] :: Here, Hold My Beer...A Panel of Enneagram Twos
Enneagram Twos are called The Helpers. They are some of the most loving, kind, supportive, upbeat, and—when healthy—genuinely helpful to other people. Their…
Typology053: Rob Bell (Enneagram 7), Author, Speaker & Gracious Provocateur, Revisited
Discovering the Enneagram was a game-changer for Rob. His knowledge and enthusiasm for the Enneagram runs deep, and as you'll discover while we revisit this…
Typology052: Science Mike Hacks the Enneagram, Revisited
This week we are revisiting Ian's interview with 'Science Mike' McHargue as he shares his journey through the inner sanctum of an Enneagram Nine and his…
Typology051: [REVISITED] :: Sarah Thebarge, Moving Out of Fear Into Love as an Enneagram 6
For the month of July we will be revisiting some of Typology's most downloaded episodes. This week we revisit Ian's interview with Sarah Thebarge. Sarah shares…
Typology050: Bob & Maria Goff, the Beautifully Imperfect Marriage of an Enneagram 9 & 7, Revisited
Today we are revisiting Ian's interview with celebrated Author, Speaker Bob Goff and his wife Maria. Bob is an Enneagram 7 and Maria is a 9. And even though…
Typology049: Julianne Cusick (Enneagram 1) Finds Her Inner Encourager
As Richard Rohr says, Ones are childlike and full of joy and wonder at the world and creation. But for Ones, that sense of joy has been lost. Instead, they…
Typology048: Surrender and Acceptance, feat. Ashley Cleveland
Every single day I receive multiple emails from listeners saying they are stuck and can't figure out their Enneagram type. Usually, my first recommendation is…
Typology047: Self to Lose, Self to Find, feat. Marilyn Vancil
Our guest today is an Enneagram professional, spiritual director, coach, facilitator, and author who is passionate about the Enneagram personality model and…
Typology046: How an Enneagram 8 learns to be vulnerable, feat. Patrick Chappell
Eights are often called the Challengers, but I like to call them the Protectors or Defenders. Every type has a basic fear and desire coloring the waters of…
Typology045: An Enneagram 7 Lets Go of His Expectations, feat. Luke Norsworthy
Sevens are the joy bombs of the Enneagram. The energy they give off is energetic, fun-loving and naturally cheerful. They are optimistic by nature and seize…
Typology044: Jen Hatmaker's Fight for Grace using the Enneagram
The last time I spoke with Jen Hatmaker on her "For of Love" podcast, we talked about how she identifies as a Three. As our conversation continued I began to…
Typology043: An Enneagram 8's Process of Defrosting, part 2 with David Gungor
Last week David Gungor shared his struggle in determining his type, how he embraces his "chaotic intentionality," and what it means to need others to "get out…
Typology042: Practicing Vulnerability as an Enneagram 8, feat. David Gungor
Enneagram Eights are called The Challenger for a good reason. Eights don't like to feel controlled and avoid any appearance of vulnerability. They are…
Typology041: Who am I if I can't DO anything? feat. Michele Cushatt (Enneagram 2)
Twos have an amazing way of making other people feel safe and comfortable. They are some of the most caring, supportive and upbeat people I know. They accept…
Typology040: Part 2, May the Fours Be with You: A Panel of Enneagram Fours
This week we continue with our panel of Fours -- Sandra McCracken, Megan Miller, Matthew Perryman Jones, and Don Chaffer. Tune in as we discuss the strengths…
Typology039: May the Fours Be with You: A Panel of Enneagram Fours
For those who are new to the Enneagram or to what life is like as an Enneagram Four, let me just give a 50,000-foot fly-by of the Enneagram Four. Fours, called…
Typology038: How the Enneagram Unexpectedly Rocked Our World, feat. research psychologist Dr. Richard Beck and his wife, Jana
After a knee-jerk reaction of skepticism, Dr. Richard Beck and his wife, Jana, share how the Enneagram has had a profound effect on their family. In today's…
Typology037: Part 2 of Exploring "The Shack" with the Enneagram and author Wm Paul Young
This week we jump back into our conversation with Paul Young to help nail down his type. Figuring out his type was hard, as it can be for many. But I think…
Typology036: Exploring "The Shack" with the Enneagram and author Paul Young, pt 1
When learning the Enneagram and figuring out your number, one of the things that complicates the process is trauma and the effect of trauma on personality…
Typology035: Sarah Thebarge, Moving Out of Fear Into Love as an Enneagram 6
I've said it before, Sixes are wonderful. They have a strong need for security and consistency. They appreciate order, plans and rules and like the comfort and…
Typology034: How to fix your broken record with the Enneagram, Feat. Amena Brown (Type 2)
Every type on the Enneagram has misbeliefs and errant unconscious motivations that get us to do and think and feel things that just are not in our best…
Typology033: The Enneagram on Tour with Tenth Avenue North
Have you ever wondered what it would be like to go on tour with a band? It sounds exciting, right? You'd hop on a tour bus, travel coast to coast seeing the…
Typology032: Reading People through the Lens of the Enneagram, with author Anne Bogel (Enneagram 9)
When Nines are healthy and self-aware, they learn to feel special and important. They get in touch with their own passions and feel secure enough to stand…
Typology031: Here, Hold My Beer...A Panel of Enneagram Twos
In Enneagram-speak, Enneagram Twos are called The Helpers. They are some of the most loving, kind, supportive, upbeat, and—when healthy—genuinely helpful to…
Typology030: Blowing up the Personality Box, feat. Brian Hardin, creator of the Daily Audio Bible podcast
Our personality types can put us into an almost hypnotic trance, something I'd call the shadow. We relegate to the shadow those parts of ourselves we don't…
Typology029: An Enneagram State of the Union, feat. Author & Former White House staffer Michael Wear
About a month ago, I sat down with author and former White House staffer, Michael Wear, to talk about personality, power, and politics. And I know this is a…
Typology028: The Grace of Letting Go—the conversation continues with Michael Cusick (Enneagram 2), Part 2
Enneagram Twos are part of the shame triad which, for those who are just getting started with the Enneagram, means that 'shame' is the go-to emotion for Twos…
Typology027: "I'm OK if you're OK" A conversation with Michael Cusick (Enneagram 2) Part 1
Known as The Helper, or as Michael Cusick prefers to call them, The Giver, Twos can be really great therapists and are maybe the most natural to move into that…
Typology026: Living Out Loud - A Conversation with Jo Saxton
Healthy Eights are great friends, exceptional leaders and champions of those who cannot fight on their own behalf. They have the intelligence, courage and…
Typology025: Life, Family and the Enneagram with the Crons
"Compassion is a verb." - Thich Nhat Hanh The Enneagram helps us recognize and overcome self-defeating patterns of behavior by challenging us to bravely…
TypologyEpisode 24: Part 2 - Science Mike hacks the Enneagram
This week on Typology, we continue our conversation with 'Science Mike' McHargue. This show is bursting with wisdom about Nines. You'll learn how Nines can…
TypologyEpisode 23: Science Mike hacks the Enneagram
Enneagram Nines, or The Peacemakers, are open and receptive in every way. They can see both sides to everything and they have a profound awareness of the…
TypologyEpisode 22: Claire Diaz-Ortiz, Sorry...wrong number?
A lot of listeners have reached out asking "how do I figure out my type?" And though I would love to give the answer, the truth is it can be very difficult to…
TypologyEpisode 21: Why Didn't Matthew Perryman Jones Get the Memo?
Fours are the most complex of all the types on the Enneagram. They spend their lives feeling different and separate from others and long to be understood and…
TypologyEpisode 20: Becoming Lisa Whelchel
Enneagram Threes focus on outstanding performance, being perceived as successful and avoiding failure at all costs. They believe that love comes from…
TypologyEpisode 19: Andy Root, The Hysterical Analytical Enneagram Five"
Enneagram Fives are known as the Investigators, or the Observers. They see the world as intrusive, overwhelming and draining. They prefer to observe life from…
TypologyEpisode 18: Matt Carter, An Enneagram Skeptic Finds His Number (And So Can You!)
I've received lots of emails and messages from folks on social media who are struggling to nail down their Enneagram number. Well, let me tell you, if that's…
TypologyEpisode 17: Take Five! A Panel of Enneagram 5s with Lori Chaffer, Kenny Benge and Joel Miller
On this week's show we invited a panel of Enneagram Fives into the studio to describe how they see and experience the world. Called the Investigators, or the…
TypologyEpisode 16: Sleeping At Last, Grace Requires Nothing of You
I think there are truths which reveal the limitations of human language. And when this happens we have to rely on artists to express these great spiritual…
TypologyEpisode 15: Richard Rohr, Finally Getting Over Your "Self" with the Enneagram, pt. 2 (Enneagram 1)
On last week's episode of Typology, I had an amazing conversation with my friend, Fr. Richard Rohr, renowned Enneagram expert and Franciscan Priest, and…
TypologyEpisode 14: Richard Rohr, Finally Getting Over Your "Self" with the Enneagram, pt. I (Enneagram 1)
I first encountered the Enneagram when I was a graduate student at a conservative seminary. While on a weekend retreat I came across a copy of Fr. Richard…
TypologyShauna and Aaron Niequist on Nurturing Relationships with the Enneagram (Enneagram 4 and 7)
Recently I came across an intriguing article in the Huffington Post about a group of Harvard researchers who undertook a longitudinal study to answer the…
TypologyEpisode 12: I Know My Type...Now What? Continuing Our Conversation with Beatrice Chestnut
A few weeks ago, renowned Enneagram teacher and author Dr. Beatrice Chestnut joined me on our show to discuss how Enneagram Twos see and relate to the world…
TypologyEpisode 10: So Six-y it Hurts (A Panel of Sixes)
The more I know about life and people, the more I love Enneagram Sixes. Called Loyalists, Sixes are the most faithful and dependable people on the Enneagram…
TypologyEpisode 9: Beatrice Chestnut, An Enneagram Two's Journey Toward Finding Real Love
Enneagram Twos are some of the most caring, kind, supportive, upbeat, and tenderhearted people on God's good green earth. Three of my closest friends are Twos…
TypologyEpisode 8: Jeff Goins, Image Isn't Everything (Enneagram 3)
In 1991, tennis superstar Andre Agassi appeared in a television ad for a camera called the Canon Rebel. On the set, the fashionably dressed Agassi steps out of…
TypologyEpisode 7: Give Peace(makers) A Chance. A Panel of Four Enneagram 9's
I'm not kidding when I say Enneagram Nines (The Peacemakers) are well represented in my universe of relationships. My wife Anne is a Nine. My daughter Maddie…
TypologyEpisode 6: Enneagram 8 Melissa Greene, The Velvet Hammer
Enneagram Eights (The Challengers) are hard driving, tough, decisive, innovative, and resourceful people who make things happen. They're larger than life…
TypologyEpisode 5: Lee C. Camp, An Enneagram 1's Journey toward Embracing Progress, Not Perfection
"Perfectionism is the voice of the oppressor, the enemy of the people," writes author Anne Lamott in her beautiful book, Bird by Bird: Some Instructions on…
TypologyEpisode 4: Tsh Oxenreider (Enneagram 4), The Art (and Angst) of Living an Unconventional Life
Most Enneagram teachers I know say Enneagram Nines are the least complicated of all numbers on the Enneagram, while Fours are the most complicated number on…
TypologyEpisode 3: Rabbi Evan Moffic (Enneagram 3), Shalom & Success
Can you pursue a life of success and enjoy a growing sense of 'shalom'--the Hebrew word for a sense of inner harmony, wholeness, and ultimate well-being we all…
TypologyEpisode 2: Bob & Maria Goff, the Beautifully Imperfect Marriage of an Enneagram 9 & 7
Bob Goff is a 7. His wife, Maria, is a 9. This is an episode about how two very different types can love and compliment each other. We learned a lot about 7's…
TypologyEpisode 1: Rob Bell (Enneagram 7), Author, Speaker & Gracious Provocateur
When I launched this podcast, I knew Rob Bell had to be my first guest. Discovering the Enneagram was a game-changer for Rob. His knowledge and enthusiasm for…