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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst…
Episodes
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 720 | Why Woke Broke: Mark Sayers on the Massive Trump-Era Cultural Upheaval and How to Find Hope in New Global Chaos
Mark Sayers brings astonishing insight to the rapid cultural, economic, and political change we're seeing right now in America and globally. Carey and Mark…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 719 | Why Teens Don't Trust the Church: Kara Powell on Why Young Women are Dropping Out of Church, And The Keys to Reaching The Next Generation
In this episode, Kara Powell discusses why teens and young adults don't trust the church. Plus, Carey and Kara talk about why young women are dropping out of…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 718 | When Christians Become the Minority: Warren Bird and Adelle Banks on The Shifts Needed To Make Your Church Future-Ready and the Surprising Reasons People Give for Not Attending Church
Warren Bird and Adelle Banks share data and case studies on what you need to do to make your church future-ready and to experience church growth. Plus, they go…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 717 | Does Character Even Matter Any More in Leadership (And Ministry)?
Does character even matter anymore for Christians? If you look at the moral failure happening among pastors and the current culture politically, you'd think…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 716 | A New Model for Funding Churches: Mark Batterson on Visionary Entrepreneurship, and The Gradual and Sudden Pattern of Success
Mark Batterson unpacks the funding and church planting strategy of National Community Church. He shares how NCC went from 29 people to owning coffee houses and…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 715 | The Most Overlooked Group in Your Church: Annie F. Downs on What Many Churches Are Missing in Ministry and the Power of Human Connection On and Offline
In this live interview, Annie F. Downs returns to the podcast and explains what most churches are missing in ministry. Plus, she discusses the most overlooked…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 714 | How A Brick and Mortar Bookstore Defied Amazon: Mart Green on The Inner Workings of the Green Family and Navigating the Reaction to the He Gets Us Campaign
Mart Green joins the podcast to share how his retail book chain stayed profitable and growing in the face of the rise of Amazon, defying the odds. Plus, Mart…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 713 | The Decline of the New Atheism: Justin Brierley on The Openness of Thinkers Like Jordan Peterson and How to Have Conversations With Spiritually Open People
Surprise. The New Atheism of people like Dawkins, Hitchins, and Sam Harris has lost favor over the last few years. Podcaster and author Justin Brierley…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 712 | The Difference Between Preaching to a Pre-Christian and Post-Christian Culture: Mark Clark on Leveraging Your Unique Personality—Even Tourettes and OCD—and How to Talk to An Anxious Generation
Mark Clark talks about the difference between preaching to a pre-Christian and post-Christian culture and how to do both effectively so that you can reach…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 711 | A Masterclass on the New Apologetics: Breaking Down What Wesley Huff Got Right with Joe Rogan and Billy Carson
Christian Apologist Wesley Huff recently debated Billy Carson, which led to an appearance on the Joe Rogan Show. In both cases, Wes demonstrated a powerful…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 710 | Craig Groeschel Breaks Down How He's Adapting His Communication and Preaching for Digital Ministry, AI, and Social Media, The Power of Extreme Habits and Behaviors, and Why People Are Bored With Cool Church
Craig Groeschel breaks down how he's changing and adapting his preaching and communication style for digital ministry, AI, and social media. Plus, he shares…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 709 | How to Tell Whether Your Culture is Healthy, The Power of Culture in Getting Next Generation Talent, And Discovering Your Blind Spots As a Leader with Jenni Catron
Culture expert Jenni Catron joins the podcast to discuss the signs to look for that tell you whether your church or company culture is healthy or toxic. Plus…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 708 | John Ortberg on What the Church Can Learn From Alcoholics, The Spiritual Power of Personal Inadequacy, and Why the Church Keeps Producing Elder Brothers
John Ortberg discusses the spiritual power of admitting your personal inadequacy, what the church can learn from alcoholics, and why the church keeps producing…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 707 | Dave Ramsey On How God Broke Him as a Leader, His Top Business Lessons, and Why People Who Think They're Micromanagers Might Not Be
Dave Ramsey talks about how going broke, broke him as a person and leader and the difference that's made to his leadership today. He also shares his top…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 706 | Tyler Staton on Lessons From His Cancer Journey, Why He Didn't Pray for Healing, and What Happens When You Can No Longer Lead From Your Strengths
Tyler Staton shares lessons from his journey with cancer, including why he never prayed for healing, the profound transformation of suffering, and what he…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 705 | Ramit Sethi On How to Teach Couples About Money in Your Church, Why Raising Money for Charity is So Hard, and How to Deal with Cheap Board Members
Ramit Sethi, New York Times Bestselling author, podcaster, and Netflix show host, returns to the podcast. Ramit shares his insight on what couples struggle…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 704 | The Dismal State of Evangelism, the Divide Between Church and Culture, and The Missed Opportunity of Unchurched People's Surprising Spiritual Openness with David Kinnaman and Mark Matlock
Only 1% of pastors say their churches are very effective at evangelism. Yet, 72% of people say they are open spiritually. In this episode, Barna CEO David…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 703 | Noah Herrin on High Growth Church Planting, Leading with Community over Content, and How a Church With An Average Age of 25 Got Started
Church planter Noah Herrin continues the 2025 church trends series as he and Carey discuss high-growth church planting. Noah shares how he created a ministry…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 702 |The Secrets of High Conversion Growth Churches And the Keys to Evangelism in Today's Culture with Joby Martin and Mike Housholder
Joby Martin and Mike Housholder both lead high-conversion growth churches. That means the growth they're seeing isn't coming from transfer growth. How are they…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 701 | College Revival, Gen Z's Confession Movement, and Bridging the Revival to Churches with J.P. Pokluda and Jennie Allen
J.P. Pokluda and Jennie Allen join Carey to share their experiences with the college revival happening across the United States. As the 2025 Church Trends…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 700 | 2025 Church Trends: Gen Z Is In Revival and Retreat At the Same Time, Evangelism is on Life Support, and More
Carey Nieuwhof shares the top 5 church trends leaders need to pay attention to in 2025. Carey discusses how Gen Z is in both revival and retreat, evangelism is…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 699 | Zach Zehnder on What's Wrong in Current Discipleship, Planting a Church In a Mainline Denomination, and How to Know When It's Time to Leave
What's wrong with the current approach to discipleship? Lutheran pastor and author Zach Zehnder talks about what's wrong with the current approach to…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 698 | Counterintuitive Advice on How to Attract and Keep High Performers, Getting Better Before Getting Bigger as a Younger Leader, and Thoughts on Paul Graham and Brian Chesky's Founder Mode with Brett Hagler
How do leaders attract and keep high performers? Brett Hagler, Y Combinator grad and New Story Founder, shares a young leader's counterintuitive advice on how…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 697 | Decision Fatigue is Bad. Indecision Fatigue is Worse: The Real Cost of Not Deciding
Many leaders understand the cost of decision fatigue, but very few understand the cost of indecision fatigue—the real cost of not deciding. In this episode…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 696 | Bob Goff on Being More Available as a Leader, Whimsy, What He's Learned from Millions of People Who Have His Phone Number, and How to Infuse Adventure Into an Otherwise Ordinary Life
Bob Goff returns to the podcast and shares what he's learned from millions of people who have had his phone number, how to be more available as a leader, and…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 695 | Chad Veach on Red Flags of Pride in Ministry, How to Process When People Leave Your Church, and What Happens When You're Operating Out of Gifting Alone
Chad Veach talks about the red flags of pride in ministry and leadership, how to process things when people leave your church, and what happens when you're…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 694 | The Story Behind Unreasonable Hospitality and The Bear, Navigating Control and Collaboration, and Handling Criticism and Praise with Will Guidara
Will Guidara shares the backstory to his book, Unreasonable Hospitality, and his involvement in the hit TV series The Bear. Plus, Will and Carey discuss…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 693 | Al Gordon on Revival and Pre-Revival in the Church, The Anatomy of a Revival, and Rethinking the Things That The Church Got Wrong
Al Gordon, founder of Saint.Church in London, talks about revival and pre-revival in the church, the anatomy of revival, and rethinking the things the church…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 692 | Tim Ross on Deconstruction, Destruction and Reconstruction, Code-Switching as a Pastor, and Podcasting as the Future of Ministry
Tim Ross talks about the difference between deconstruction, destruction, and reconstruction. Plus, the pressure to code switch as a pastor, how podcasting…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 691 | Leadership Red Flag: Excuse Making Leaders v. Progress Making Leaders
There are two kinds of leaders: leaders who make excuses and leaders who make progress. A huge red flag in leadership centers on the leaders who make excuses…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 690 | Pete Scazzero Questions the Mid-Life Crisis, Discusses How Leaders are MisFormed for Ministry, And Outlines The Revolution Needed to Transform the Church
Is the mid-life crisis real? Pete Scazzero questions the mid-life crisis and explains what really happens to most leaders in their thirties and early forties…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 689 | DeSizing the Church, The Drug of Size, The Good and Bad of the Church Growth Movement, and What Small and Large Churches Get Right
In an era where the average church in America has an attendance of about 50 people, Karl Vaters talks about desizing the church. Karl also discusses the drug…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 688 | Henry Cloud Unpacks His Traumatic Past, Offers Advice on Combatting Depression and Panic Attacks, And Outlines The Problems with The Dominant Models of Psychology In the Church
Henry Cloud unpacks his traumatic childhood and past and offers advice on combatting depression and panic attacks. Plus, Henry outlines the problems with the…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 687 | Secrecy and Exposure in Leadership, How Your Body Keeps Score of Trauma, and How the "Go Mode" That Makes You Successful Can Lead To Your Undoing with Chuck DeGroat
Chuck DeGroat returns to the podcast to discuss secrecy and exposure in leadership, how your body keeps score of trauma, and how the 'go mode' that makes many…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 7: Sharon McMahon on The Monetization of Hate, The Exhausted Majority, and Why People Crave Certainty and How it Explains the Growth of Churches and Influencers
Sharon McMahon, also known as @SharonSaySo on Instagram, explains the business model behind the monetization of hate and how that's driving division. She…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 6: Mark Sayers on Conspiracy Theories, Cultural Elites, and What God is Doing When It Seems You Can't Win Anymore
Mark Sayers, Pastor and author, weighs in on why people inside and outside the church are so upset and the rise of the culture wars. He discusses why…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 5: NT Wright on Christians Buying Into The Culture Wars, How the Gospel is Political, And Advice on Leading Through the Election Without Losing People
Theologian N.T. Wright deconstructs why Christians have bought into the culture wars, discusses how the Gospel is political, and offers his best advice on…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 4: Our Political Sickness and Advice on Guiding Your Staff When They Want to Express Their Views
Michael Wear, founder of the Center for Christianity and Public Life, discusses our political sickness and how to guide your staff when they want to share…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 3: Ed Stetzer on How to Lead in an Age of Outrage, Why 2024 Will Be More Divided than 2020 (But Why The Church Is Better Prepared), And What Happens When Your Political Win Matters More Than Your Moral Views
In episode three of Pastoring in a Partisan Age, Ed Stetzer talks about how to lead in an age of outrage. What happens when your political win matters more…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 2: Andy Stanley on Why Picking Sides Sidelines the Church, On Disagreeing Politically, Culturally, and Theologically, And How to Handle People Who Criticize You
What do you do when everyone in your church is in conflict? In this episode, Andy Stanley continues our seven-part series on Pastoring in a Partisan Age. He…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastELECTION SERIES | EP 1: The Hidden Reasons Your Church is Divided (And How to Fix It)
Why is your church so divided? In this episode, Carey Nieuwhof kicks off our seven-part series on Pastoring in a Partisan Age. Carey looks at three hidden…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 686 | What Business Leaders Need From Church Leaders to Create Exponential Growth in Giving, Inside the Mind of an Entrepreneur, and the Detoxing Power of Time Off for Leaders
Business leader and serial entrepreneur Lee Domingue talks about what business leaders need from church leaders to create exponential growth in giving. Lee…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 685 | 5 Ways to Scale Your Personal Capacity
85% of churches never reach more than 200 people. Why? Because their leadership doesn't scale. In this episode, you'll learn the top reasons leaders who want…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 684 | Seth Godin Unpacks His Creative Process, Talks Strategy, and Explains How He Overcame 800 Rejections
Seth Godin returns to the podcast to unpack his creative process and shares insights from his latest work, This is Strategy. Seth also discusses how not to…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 683 | The Impact Childhood Trauma Has on Leaders, Top Lessons from Working at Facebook & Meta, and How to Examine Your (True) Leadership Motivation
Nona Jones shares how childhood abuse and trauma impact leaders. Nona also provides her top lessons from her time in senior leadership at Facebook and Meta…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 682 | Malcolm Gladwell Deconstructs His Writing Process and Habits, Shares His Theory on How to Reach People in a Crowded World, and Explains the Revenge of the Tipping Point
Malcolm Gladwell, New York Times Bestselling Author, returns to the podcast and deconstructs his writing process and habits. Malcolm shares how to reach people…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 681 | Lysa Teurkurst on Red Flags You Can't Trust Someone, How to Recover From Betrayal, and Why She Didn't Quit Ministry
Can you trust someone? Here are the red flags. Lysa TerKeurst, #1 New York Times Bestselling author, returns to the podcast and talks about the red flags that…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 680 | 7 Stages Every Founder & Church Planter Faces: Avoid Common Mistakes
Scott Ritzheimer has helped launch 20,000 businesses, and he shares the patterns of success and failure he sees in start-ups and church plants. Scott shares…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 679 | The 10th Anniversary Interview: Mark Clark Interviews Carey About The Podcast Origins, How it Grew, and The Power of Staying Grounded
Bayside Church Senior Pastor Mark Clark flips the mic and joins Carey in his basement studio for a wide-ranging personal conversation. Carey discusses how the…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 678 | Jim Collins Breaks Down How the Mighty Fall, The Liability of Charisma, Why Growth is Not a Goal, and His Personal Flywheel
Legendary leadership expert Jim Collins joins us for a special tenth-anniversary podcast episode. Jim breaks down the five stages of How The Mighty Fall—one of…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 677 | Carlos Whittaker on Becoming Amish and a Monk (for a while), How Technology Addicts Us To Knowledge and Control, and What Changes in Your Brain When You Ditch Your Phone
Carlos Whittaker returns to the podcast to talk about his latest experiment—becoming a monk and becoming Amish for seven weeks to detox from his phone. He…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 676 | Sharon McMahon on The Monetization of Hate, The Exhausted Majority, and How the Crave for Certainty Grows Churches and Influencers
Sharon McMahon, also known as @SharonSaySo on Instagram, explains the business model behind the monetization of hate and how that's driving division. She…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 675 | Mark Sayers on Conspiracy Theories, The Rise of The Culture Wars, The Reasons People are So Upset, Cultural Elites, and What God is Doing When It Seems You Can't Win Anymore
Mark Sayers, Pastor and author, weighs in on why people inside and outside the church are so upset and the rise of the culture wars. He discusses why…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 674 | N.T. Wright on Christians Buying Into The Culture Wars, How the Gospel is Political, And Advice on Leading Through the Election Without Losing People
Theologian N.T. Wright deconstructs why Christians have bought into the culture wars, discusses how the Gospel is political, and offers his best advice on…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 673 | Michael Wear on Our Political Sickness, Advice on Guiding Your Staff When They Want to Express Their Views, and What to Preach Before the Election
Michael Wear, founder of the Center for Christianity and Public Life, discusses our political sickness, how to guide your staff when they want to share their…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 672 | Ed Stetzer on How to Lead in an Age of Outrage, Why 2024 Will Be More Divided than 2020 (But Why The Church Is Better Prepared), And What Happens When Your Political Win Matters More Than Your Moral Views
In episode three of Pastoring in a Partisan Age, Ed Stetzer talks about how to lead in an age of outrage. What happens when your political win matters more…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 671 | Andy Stanley on Why Picking Sides Sidelines the Church, On Disagreeing Politically, Culturally, and Theologically, And How to Handle Critics
What do you do when everyone in your church is in conflict? In this episode, Andy Stanley continues our seven-part series on Pastoring in a Partisan Age. He…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 670 | The Hidden Reasons Your Church is Divided (And How to Fix It)
Why is your church so divided? In this episode, Carey Nieuwhof kicks off our seven-part series on Pastoring in a Partisan Age. Carey looks at three hidden…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 669 | Karin Hurt and David Dye on How to Handle Conflict At Work, Exactly What to Say When You're Facing Conflict, And Practical Strategies to Handle Difficult Bosses
Leadership experts Karin Hurt and David Dye offer precise phrases and advice on how to handle conflict at work, exactly what to say when you're facing…
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership PodcastCNLP 668 | Hal Donaldson on The Cost of Neglecting Self-Care In Leadership, What Mother Teresa Said To Him, And How to Stop Entertaining Weighty Topics After 8:00 pm
Convoy of Hope Founder Hal Donaldson talks about the cost of neglecting self-care in leadership, what Mother Teresa said to him, how to make critical decisions…