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Ep.181 Artificial Intelligence? · What's The Juice?

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is why I want this pocket.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, this is why at any time I started just now I'm going to sing something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which is why I don't think you should start.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_05]: If somebody clicks on this episode being their first episode they listen to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And they start hearing you just randomly singing a song, you think they're going to want to stick around?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think that's who makes it fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So you think you're fun?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm, I think I'm a fun listen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I kept my promise, didn't I?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's just start that episode, you know, so that means next one, it's mine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you better sing something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, she wants to sing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not going to sing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's going to keep for like, welcome back to what's the juice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a day we're going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I still okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a rude.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today we're talking about artificial intelligence.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want this episode to be like a naked.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm saying we're not here to debate.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, should you use AI?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Should you not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to talk about
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to talk about how I think affecting us specifically as creators.
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[SPEAKER_05]: and such.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I specifically want to talk about how much I love AI.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, not all of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's the parts that I don't like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's parts that I use every single day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I know there's some people out there who might say, you know what, this whole AI thing, I'm not worried yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I can't just give my information to AI because AI don't keep that shit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not necessarily just that because information, most of our information is already out there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think the big, the big combo, at least, I mean, there's a lot of big combos when it comes to AI, but I do think.
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[SPEAKER_05]: among the, are you, do you use AI or do you not?
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[SPEAKER_05]: One of the biggest things is like, um, just the amount of energy that it uses.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because, uh, I was reading about it before the episode just to kind of inform myself, but it takes like 10 times the amount of energy as an electricity.
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[SPEAKER_05]: to answer an AI question, then it does, like, regular search engine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you think a average person thinks about that?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I do actually.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think like most people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Most people think about ways that are young, like my...
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[SPEAKER_03]: Think about that it takes more energy to get this answer from AI.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of people that's like one of the biggest debates when it comes to AI is the fact that it's using so much energy that it's just really bad for the environment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Be honest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna be honest and I'm sorry, but I haven't thought about that any time I use chat with PT.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like, give me that shit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I need that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I need those answers.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't think people don't use it
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry if that's ignorant, but I'm just going to be honest with you guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I never thought about how much energy it uses when I use it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it uses a lot of energy though.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, not necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's what I'm like.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There are people that are very like against using any sort of AI engine because it uses a lot more energy than if you were just going to search something up on Google.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They just use a lot more resources.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like the more we use these tools the more energy is being used.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's just it's it's another thing adding to Like the amount of resources that I'm being used the environment and such.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's a fact it's it's eventually like it's another thing that we're doing that is you Yeah, I mean I guess
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and I agree with you and that is something that honestly we should think about, but yeah, it's something that people are thinking about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm trying to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but I just don't know and please, if you listen to this, let me know if that's something you think about when you use AI.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I want to know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know because I feel like I, and I know there's a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Many people talk about AI from that angle.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, they will specifically,
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like that's been a lot of some people made like AI based content like they made their usual content, but then it was like let's use AI to see what it tells us about this thing and then they built the whole video or content about like using AI and then so many comments were saying
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm really disappointed that you're encouraging us to use AI or that like you're promoting the use of it because it's using so much energy blah blah blah all these things like it's a big conversation Okay, and let's have it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to break down this this episode in a few different sections so we can talk about each thing and what it does is a good is a bad Okay, the first thing the first thing I have on my list is how will AI affect the future?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but I'm talking about like how will school look when, when, I mean, I have no idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, so are we just going to like, I want to take like, I want to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can, this air, I don't know, I don't know anything by air.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what it's going to do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, this is a great way to start the episode.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I know, but I'm saying like, how do you think it will affect the future?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All I know is, there are a lot of, there's,
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[SPEAKER_05]: the way in which I want, I will and I do use AI is for work, it's to help with different things in my job such as like coming up with ideas or, or, um, I don't know, sometimes like I work I use it the other day to figure out like this contract thing or things like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you have
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[SPEAKER_05]: how much money do I need to have saved if I want to buy a million dollar home?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Or, or I also asked something like, according to, you know, my income from last year, how like what would be a smart, like price for home to buy, like based on how much money I make, what house can I afford while also having money saved?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, it's questions like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That it's like, in a way, it's something that I would ask like a, what is it called?
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[SPEAKER_05]: not investor like a like a financial advisor you know so in a way it's like it's helpful if you have certain questions about I don't know things but I really am not about like AI replacing like hearts or humans like any replacing humans but
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely going to keep replacing humans, but when it comes to, let's say now, I can totally see like in five years even way sooner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: fully AI-generated vlogs like daily vlogs of a person who doesn't exist I mean New York City to them gonna give me a much I wouldn't watch that some people would love to watch some people would I think who I don't know for me if a piece of content is made like it's AI so it's fake I nothing about me makes me want to consume it you never watch anything AI and be like
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean, you can tell it's AI based on the voice and everything and it just depends like is it a I wouldn't watch the point of watching a vlog is to see a person that is real doing the thing that they're doing Yep
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're on YouTube, just before I was about to watch my video that was going to watch, there was an ad and it started it was like this, hi, my name's Alex and I'm not a real person.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But today, I do want to tell you something about, and how was it just like sucked into it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And she was like a minute long.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, oh, you watched a whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I watched a whole thing because it was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But what was it taught?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it just giving you information about something?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was something about, was like a product?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a product and how you can use this product and it was basically promoting something and how you could help you when you're alive.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But it was fake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it was fake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like an AI talking about a real brand.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so that's the prime example of where it did replace a human from like a, it replaced an actor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It replaced a, like a crew that would be on that shoe.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like everything that would go into shooting like an ad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They probably saved so much money.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's where like it's getting obviously concerning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to get that's something about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I mean, for an ad, I guess it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But like, I will still watch it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But when it comes to content, what about music?
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[SPEAKER_05]: A.I.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Main Music is like a thing was there wasn't that you play a Drake song that was even Drake's song It was our Kelly song that sounded amazing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like it's it's not a real song by our Kelly I forgot what it was called.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Can we not talk about this man, please?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know but I'm just talking about like this music that this A.I.I.
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[SPEAKER_03]: thing made.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The song is good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the scary thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That it's like you can take.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You could make a song by an artist.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like you could sample their voice by an artist who died and make new music as that artist.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I don't know if I'm down with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know if I'm down with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: His family would have to make any money that's being made from their last one, their last love one, you know?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if someone died and then you bring him back to life, now you're not bringing them back to life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you're sampling, you're sampling the voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but then you probably like, you know, you can make money from that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know, but I don't get it in that money.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but it's technically not that person, like it's fake.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So you don't really owe anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's his voice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But is it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It just sounds like him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like no.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm saying this like a real thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is like the big debate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't do anything that sounds like me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it sounds like me, it's me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, because it's not me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just being the devil's advocate, but I'm just saying like this is a television that is scaring me, but when it comes to like, I'm not trying to listen to a podcast made by AI.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like remember when Spotify did that thing where you had like a voice that was like a podcast telling you about your Spotify wrapped and it was cool the way that they delivered it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you have that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it only on my phone?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, I had that too, and I listened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, all right, Yoni.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today we got a special podcast for you, Yoni.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the, you could say your name.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they kept saying my name to kind of like make more casual.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They didn't say my name.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe it's because they didn't know how to pronounce it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They did not pronounce it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I'm a fucking dishonor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think AI is dangerous?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like when it comes to like all these things?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's dangerous because it's taking away like
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[SPEAKER_03]: By giving, you give, you know, that app right where I insert a photo and it makes it for to do whatever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't be doing that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's like, that right there is a waste.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's like stupid to put a, put a photo and then make it into a video.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's funny for like a minute.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But then I'm like, that's just the way that's how I'm saying like for me, I do because of the whole like energy thing, it's something that I do keep in mind when I am using it and I truly use it only like for work or for like something like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still on the use it, I for work like work related stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and those random videos it but I feel like okay, so as yeah, those random videos, but as a photographer I think like I wouldn't want as as soon as I see a photo And I know it's made by AI.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't care how beautiful it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah It's it's annoying, but I mean
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[SPEAKER_03]: because it's not real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not real, so that's why it doesn't count.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They can make it the most incredible, cool shot that you've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And like it's not, it's not real.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't know, like something about it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just, but something about like visual things, I can't get behind like a whole movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Would you watch a whole movie that somebody says is like incredible I think but it's all AI I think so because the movie already is not real like you're acting
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah, but it's real people acting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but you're acting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what's happening in the movie?
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[SPEAKER_03]: To me, it's not about the people being real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you're a country, they think yourself a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you're a movie.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You talked about a vlog, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A vlog is real people doing real things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A movie is real people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not doing real things.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're acting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So everything that's going on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're telling this story, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So now, I could see myself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: fully watching a 90-minute AI movie, and if the story is raised- Yeah, but generated by, like it's fake, there is no people ever doing any of that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but to me, it's about the story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like new stories like them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was a crazy story like this happened, and then this happened, and then this happened.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, there's no differs than if it's a real people acting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: think about the show that we just watched, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: All her fault and the whole time we're praising the main actresses acting and how incredible she was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: One thing about Elijah, she's gonna bring up a good point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She'll bring up a good boy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like that was such a big part of our watching experience.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I'll see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me take.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to take a back, but kind of.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I get what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I give you something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you give me something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you think about it further, the watching experience of a movie or show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what if the AI is really good to, in like acting?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you see, if you see that it's like, but this is just something about recognizing actors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's something about the actors doing something that's so hard and so natural.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this actress was turning, give her a shout out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Sarah, snook.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sarah Snook if you guys I don't know if we talked about on the podcast or if I just posted it somewhere all her fault on Netflix No on pico on pico I don't know who has pico But you need to get that free trial for seven days and watch that movie and cast this shit because it's No, yeah, yeah, you sure it's not a movie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's a TV show
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, it's a TV show like there's something there's something about like recognizing characters It's like you see a new movie coming out directed by by a what's his name Tarantino and Robert De Niro with you or something and it's like everyone's already like Fuck yeah, let's go you think there's gonna be an AI actor that we're gonna be like oh my god Can we see a movie with
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[SPEAKER_05]: with the AI, that's the famous sense, doesn't make sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think one day, like I think this is what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is just me predicting, okay, November 14, 2025.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have IG profiles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That already exists.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there it exists.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There AI.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thousands and thousands and thousands of followers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think they're AI and they're just, they're just the AI account.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they, they, they actually is going to be so real.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard for us to even understand how it's going to be our life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The problem is when we won't know if it's real or fake and also like now the thing is is like how far are these whole rules going to go of like you have to mark something that it's AI made.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You can always tell that it was AI, but sometimes it's really hard.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be honest, this guy, this guy that I was talking to about in the ad, at first, like, before he told me he was fake, I was like, oh, shit, like I didn't realize it wasn't a real person, and then also there's, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the only examples I have from this is NBA players, or at professional athletes who do like a, you know, like a press conference or like after the game, just do like, you know, any of you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they say something, but then AI makes it seem like they're saying something else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And usually they would say something like Rudy messed up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, you know, Stephen Kerry, I hate that guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I never pass him the ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, we say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And also you would never say that about Steph Curry, but I'm just saying just a random example.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I mean, the some parts of it that I like.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think when it's helping you save, save, solve a problem is different than when you're creating something.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even solving a problem like, are we just going to stop using our brains at some point then?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like give me a caption for this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to think about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now on chat GPT I can just be like say this about this Say that I woke up at 7 say that I broke my leg that day and then went to the hospital and then Friday in a way that sounds like this and then provided in a way that and then A. I will just give you that in 3 seconds Think about being in school with A. I write down like I don't know what it would be like so like yes It's solving your problem, but it's making another problem.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't think anymore
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's no critical thinking like them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How can I write now e-mails people think about e-mails?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No more e-mails used to be the thing that you got to like right You got to have someone revised you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this e-mail good so I can send this company?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to work for now You just go to AI be like yo.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I need to do an e-mail to this person and I want to tell them this this is They're not worked here and this is where I live and you write it in like a really kind of whatever type of language and then they're gonna polish the shit They're gonna mix that shit
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[SPEAKER_03]: up now.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But then if it sounds too AI then you're like can you make it sound like more or not natural and casual.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the craziest thing about Chad GPD is that the more you talk to it, it remembers the things that you say.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So then they're going to put it in the eve.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to talk like you.
19:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Which, okay, I mean, oh, they're going to talk like you.
19:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Or like they're going to insert information.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like now they know, oh, because you have a podcast or like because of this and that or like we know, we've been talking a lot about Malta, right?
20:01
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I completely unrelated to Malta, but Chad J. PT was like, yeah, and since you just went to Malta, this can like they connect things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like they're which some people are like, that's scary.
20:13
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I don't know why for some reason I'm not like I have no problem, but that's because like I already put everything
20:21
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no, I have no problem with like things on mine knowing what shit about my life.
20:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like personal information is she's.
20:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I'm gonna like pull my password number to judge if you judge if you're right.
20:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I won't do anything crazy like that, but I think I just, for me when it comes to, um, content,
20:45
[SPEAKER_05]: or anything, like I just don't, I think because you brought up the idea of Instagram profiles of being like completely AI and they're just like going in New York or sort of, and then they make content like a lifestyle creator, but it's all like an AI person, like AI, like fake, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Already knowing that, I have no, like what's the point of looking at it?
21:09
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just you, there's so many people, like let's say this AI page is teaching you how to
21:16
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's just the last stop person, now really, like... Because that is a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're teaching, if you're talking about something specific and it's AI and your whole Instagram page is about, teaching you how to do this, people just want to get the information.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
21:32
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whether it's an AI person or a real person, like you don't really need them to be real.
21:37
[SPEAKER_03]: I just need the information.
21:38
[SPEAKER_03]: And I could see that working in- That's not what I'm talking about though.
21:42
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking about having me, having somebody make the type of content that I did that I do.
21:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
21:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So they live together with their partner and in-depth.
21:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we also AI, like a fake AI family.
21:56
[SPEAKER_05]: It sounds so like black from here and it's like they have this fake apartment Yeah, but like everything is just does not exist.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they fake they fake breakfast fake eggs and it's like I guess you could get like fake coffee You could get a fat of
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, you could get food in spau.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You could be like, oh, that's a good cool meal that they ate, but they didn't eat it, and they're not people.
22:23
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's a real ingredient.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, it could be a real recipe.
22:27
[SPEAKER_03]: So would you use that a recipe?
22:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
22:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they're also good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I never thought about that, but AI just cooked some crazy shit.
22:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you want to say I don't know cuz I haven't really like why now you're gonna be the now Be like that's a. Yeah, that's not real and then you look at your fridge You have all the ingredients those are really ingredients.
22:47
[SPEAKER_05]: You could but I don't know like I'm trying to think like all the like my food inspo that I get is from you know different cooks and chefs and stuff online And they'll post like my favorite girl Molly boss, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's making like Shout out to Molly Recipes right now
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[SPEAKER_05]: And she just posted these Parker roles that looked amazing that I actually sent our friend but I was like we need to make this when we go upstate and then like Pumpkin Pire all these different things right and I feel like her making the recipe like there's credibility that the recipe is good because it's a real person making this recipe and she knows that if the
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[SPEAKER_05]: people would say it's bad and it's going to ruin her reputation because she is a real person with certain level of credibility.
23:41
[SPEAKER_05]: But if an AI is like, they have a whole account while they make these fake recipes, there's also something with like credibility.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not fake recipes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's like it's real recipes.
23:54
[SPEAKER_05]: It's okay.
23:55
[SPEAKER_05]: But if
23:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Like there is a human behind these AI's.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like if I make an Instagram account and all the content is generated, I'm not in the videos like, let's say I make the recipe, but I don't want to be on camera.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I have a fake AI like make these videos of the recipes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But they're my recipes or I just ask the AI to come up with the recipe and then make a video of the recipe and then I post it and that's like all what I do
24:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Somehow, I don't know, I just like, I get turned off by that idea.
24:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Because for me, as soon as I see something is AI, I'm like, I don't want to, like, I don't care about it.
24:39
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, to me depends what it is.
24:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Because also anybody could fake it, even if I see like an informational thing, those, those AI videos that are like, that are like,
24:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you ever wonder what it would be like if we took all the humans and put them in a line?
24:56
[SPEAKER_05]: And they would go around the planet 60 times and... Oh, yeah.
24:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Or what are those steps of videos?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love those accounts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but I'm like... Those are so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just watch it the whole thing.
25:05
[SPEAKER_05]: But somebody could have input literally any type of BS.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you don't know what that means, it's bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They could have literally taken any idea they wanted, and made an AI video like that one.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like the information could be completely wrong, and it's misinformation, but they made it into one of these like credible scientific-like videos.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Ocean ocean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then they would just like show just obviously an AI video of this body is just fill up the whole Ocean and and then they will give you like this would be this many people.
25:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like how Yeah, but also like okay Like just think about the question why how many people would it take to fill up the whole ocean like what?
26:07
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but also, but I'd be watching this if that's they get you they get you I don't know you guys I just feel like the it becomes dangerous when You know when becomes dangerous and tell me something
26:20
[SPEAKER_05]: when you have people that are not media literate where they can't tell the difference between a real video and an AI video and that's usually like the older generation like my grandma when we went back this summer we were trying to make her understand you know what's the
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[SPEAKER_05]: fake AI videos because no, I mean at their age like because they look so real and she doesn't understand how you can make
26:59
[SPEAKER_05]: this fake like she sends me these beautiful like ethereal images.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And she thinks like they're real.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like she thinks somebody got dressed up with this blue hair and put these flowers in there here and like, you know, and they look like a, what do you call it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like a princess, but also kind of alien.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And like she can't tell that they're
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[SPEAKER_05]: you know, and it's dangerous because you can also make those types of videos about a politician or about something.
27:35
[SPEAKER_05]: And the amount of arguments that my dad gets in with his mom because she will say, did you hear what this guy said about about this policy and about that voice?
27:48
[SPEAKER_05]: And because she kind of has this sort of urgent thing when she delivers the information that she heard about.
27:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Why you Why you do that?
27:59
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like pain.
27:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Why you do this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I'm trying to like, imagine why that would respond, but Okay.
28:04
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where it becomes dangerous because people also at like, people can still vote.
28:11
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can spread a lot of misinformation about different candidates, about different... And not even when it comes to voting, when it comes to hate, too.
28:20
[SPEAKER_05]: It comes to like, if somebody has some sort of bias, maybe their racist or sexist or homophobic or whatever it is, and they start getting a lot of content that is supposed to be scientific and it's proving why gay people this or women this or black people that or Asian people that.
28:39
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like proving their, their agenda, their like ideas about these people or these, these things.
28:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, or like the other world is coming and blah, blah, blah, blah, or climate change is not real.
28:55
[SPEAKER_04]: We got enough examples, babe.
28:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
28:57
[SPEAKER_05]: So like that's where it becomes dangerous because.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's people are going to choose to believe what they want to believe, especially for your lines with them.
29:07
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's dangerous when we're not living in the same world where everybody's living in their own version of the world, where they feel like they have the proof when people are being less and less educated.
29:19
[SPEAKER_05]: And then what's like, what's up a world that we're going to end the living in?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to be a good one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's helping us, right?
29:26
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just stage one
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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so that's where I think it's dangerous and scary.
29:33
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think like, yeah, I was trying to get into the whole what jobs do you think will be safe?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It will jobs would be so hard to say.
29:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Like doctors and nurses, those jobs will remain.
29:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
29:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Teachers are replaceable, honestly.
29:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Like schools will be replaceable, I feel like I feel like one day school wouldn't be a thing.
29:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to, I want the world to end before that.
30:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn, I don't want the world to end.
30:06
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, but basically like a basic data type of job, that's easily automated.
30:13
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's a lot of jobs.
30:14
[SPEAKER_05]: There's many jobs in the past that like have been replaced that used to be a thing and then out there no longer.
30:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
30:21
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, but it is scary just because this everything is changing.
30:25
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a way more rapid pace in general.
30:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm hmm.
30:33
[SPEAKER_05]: You just never really know, you never know what we're going to get.
30:36
[SPEAKER_03]: But being a school right now would be crazy.
30:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you're in school, is there a way?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No until our kids are going to be there too.
30:41
[SPEAKER_03]: But is there a way for teachers to know that you didn't write this paper?
30:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Because right now.
30:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's AI.
30:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the way that you used to be, you can detect if something was plagiarized.
30:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
30:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Now you can detect like AI to really.
30:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Gramps, yeah.
30:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Like what if I got a right of paper about the inside of a camera and then I tell AI all the information and then they give it to me and I just remix it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know, if you're in school, what system did they put in place for you guys to not be able to use AI?
31:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Because right now, I had to honestly I downloaded the ChadGPT app.
31:19
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have that before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I used to just go on the website.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On my phone, my computer, but now my friend told me, I was like, yo, you don't have to app?
31:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, no, I have to load the app.
31:31
[SPEAKER_03]: I got the app logged in.
31:33
[SPEAKER_02]: When you log into it and that's all you know, you're committed.
31:36
[SPEAKER_05]: It's cool because you can also, like, it saves your, your, your chats.
31:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I got the free version.
31:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can go.
31:43
[SPEAKER_05]: I am paying for it.
31:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Bam.
31:45
[SPEAKER_03]: See?
31:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, pay for it.
31:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Because I am using it for work.
31:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You see, guys, that episode came clean.
31:53
[SPEAKER_05]: No, because, okay, listen, we also do a lot of things.
31:57
[SPEAKER_05]: And wear a lot of hats and do a lot of different jobs.
32:00
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's just me and you.
32:02
[SPEAKER_03]: It's me and you.
32:04
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's just helpful to juggle a bunch of different things to like get a little bit of help.
32:10
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I get it.
32:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got it somewhere about to be late.
32:12
[SPEAKER_05]: I just feel like if you're using AI to make stupid videos and shit like you do.
32:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, watching a stupid video is like my work on YouTube?
32:21
[SPEAKER_05]: No, like the stupid videos where you take an image and you like make this a video.
32:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was on a horse.
32:26
[SPEAKER_03]: If you guys remember after all, I was just standing.
32:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I only took a picture of me just standing with after all.
32:31
[SPEAKER_03]: He was standing off the road as you guys remember.
32:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, man, make this horse a run.
32:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And I have this video of me just...
32:38
[SPEAKER_05]: It looks like Yannis.
32:39
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't do the air.
32:41
[SPEAKER_03]: With this horse, not in the air, but he was just really like it.
32:44
[SPEAKER_05]: Spanning through the air makes no sense.
32:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Spanning speeding.
32:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, speeding.
32:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:49
[SPEAKER_03]: So you know, the horse is sound when they run faster.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was doing, I can post it.
32:55
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't post it because I feel like Instagram is going to be like, this is not really, you can't post it so much.
33:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you have to tag it that it's A, I mean.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
33:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So just in the caption, like, hey, this is like a thing you like select, like a little dot.
33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: What if I just posted it on my story?
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
33:13
[SPEAKER_05]: you should will get flag yeah yeah that's a that's a that's a that's a way that I'm not going to like use it all right guys
33:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Let us know what you guys think, honestly, this AI conversation.
33:28
[SPEAKER_03]: It was more fun than I expected it to be.
33:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
33:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
33:32
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like AI.
33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Let us know, do you use AI?
33:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you refuse to use AI?
33:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you not trust it?
33:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to be honest.
33:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I use chatGPT.
33:40
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about the rest of the shit that AI does.
33:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I just go and chatGPT and be like, yo, help me out with this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or like, what should I say?
33:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't like that.
33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like that.
33:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Do that.
33:50
[SPEAKER_05]: when your back was hurting.
33:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
33:52
[SPEAKER_05]: You were asking, like, okay, I have pain in this area, like where could I, what could it be, what should I do?
34:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
34:02
[SPEAKER_05]: All these different things.
34:03
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, it's helpful with that.
34:06
[SPEAKER_03]: To end this episode, I just want to ask Chagipiti just one question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like that.
34:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I hope we don't get hate for this thing.
34:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you please just tell me how you will help us in the future?
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: absolutely.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: In the future, I'll be here to help in a bunch of ways.
34:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I can assist with learning new skills, answering questions, offering personalized advice, and even just being a friendly voice to chat with.
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I can help with productivity, creativity, and even emotional support if you need it.
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I'll be a versatile companion to make life a little easier and more fun.
34:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the only scary part about that is like if people start talking to Chad gpc That was crazy Um, instead of real people And it feels like someone is just like your friend No, that's the thing I can't help or feel like that because like you know it's not real
34:57
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's not real.
34:58
[SPEAKER_03]: I can see people really making a connection with this guy.
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: It's people's eye person.
35:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you can choose their voice if you're, maybe you don't design some weird people out there, right?
35:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I know, but so I'm saying, if you're already somebody that is like has certain, not conditions, but it's like mentally, you're already like vulnerable with this type of thing.
35:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but.
35:17
[SPEAKER_05]: You're really introverted and maybe you would like a lot of social anxiety.
35:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, this takes us back to a movie that you still haven't seen that is very relevant today called her.
35:28
[SPEAKER_05]: If you haven't seen it with Joaquin Phoenix, like a really, really great movie, but it's basically that.
35:33
[SPEAKER_05]: He falls in love with his artificial intelligence assistant.
35:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Crazy.
35:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so it's crazy that a movie was made like a while ago.
35:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, so Okay, we're gonna end here Um, let us know if you guys think about this combo obviously we kind of wanted to talk about it because it is something that's you know relevant and constantly Evolving and um, I don't know
36:00
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so are you happy that you use in charge of your pt the way you are or do you kind of feel like sense of guilt like I shouldn't like I think less I've been thinking less yeah, sometimes Since I have tried but then it also has made my life like so much easier at times when I'm just like I don't have the mental capacity to like do this right now So like Look at this and like tell you what to do
36:24
[SPEAKER_03]: and casualties, but I really like get their good, like they're going to break shit down for even more than you need, like damn, they give you extra information.
36:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's certain times like when, you know, like it could save you, it saved you a lot of time.
36:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Money to save you time, it saves you money, it saves you brain cells, a lot of brain cells.
36:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or just like time.
36:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't know.
36:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
36:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying.
36:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
36:48
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
36:48
[SPEAKER_05]: I am ready to go because I actually have to leave to me my friend for dinner.
36:52
[SPEAKER_05]: Real friend, not a not an AI friend.
36:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, shit.
36:56
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, love you guys so much.
37:00
[SPEAKER_05]: We want this to be obviously like an open conversation and we are not at all, you know, like.
37:05
[SPEAKER_05]: because there's some people that are very passionate about this topic and we hate AI and hate like using it promoting it in any way.
37:14
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't want you guys to feel like we're promoting using it or telling people to use it or I mean like that.
37:20
[SPEAKER_03]: However, you feel about it, let us know, but I didn't think about it.
37:25
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I feel like you don't, you're not in that area of the internet where people are talking about it that way.
37:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I mean, if you're going to be mad at me, let me know and that's it, I'm just saying.
37:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just giving the disclaimer.
37:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
37:41
[SPEAKER_03]: I get why it's bad.
37:44
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, like now you make me feel like I got to defend myself, like shit.
37:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
37:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a lot of people use it.
37:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's been helping me with my job that I do, and... Yeah.
37:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to say it, like if anybody's a fan about that, I don't know.
37:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
37:59
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I just felt like I had to just wrap it up in a little bow at the end like that, you know?
38:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I just didn't think about the other perspective of by like the super passionate anti-AI people.
38:10
[SPEAKER_03]: Then shout out to you guys, I mean let me know something, say something in the comments, teach me something.
38:14
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm an open soul, okay?
38:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all right guys.
38:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye guys.
38:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Love you so much.
38:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a real love?
38:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that AI love?
38:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
38:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever left someone like what was the longest voice note you've ever left someone?
38:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I think mine is like 10-met.
38:37
[SPEAKER_05]: 80.
38:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
38:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh that's crazy.
38:39
[SPEAKER_05]: You made that up.
38:40
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
38:40
[SPEAKER_05]: 17 and a half?
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
38:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
38:43
[SPEAKER_02]: 17 and a half.
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
38:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Who remembers 17 and a half?
38:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the longest one I've left is probably like eight minutes or 10 minutes.
38:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I will not listen to that shit.
38:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's worth it, it's worth it, it's worth it because you can't fast all you can't fast for it actually.
38:57
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you?
38:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you gotta hit on that, you gotta hit that time's too bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Alright guys, we gotta go, I am thirsty.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, bye.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hear you go again, you say, you want your free, you know, well, and yeah, we've been listening to a lot of Fleetwood Mac in this house.
39:21
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a whole music episode coming up for you guys.
39:24
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I already left, but I just wanted to sing this song one more time.
39:29
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want me to open up an episode where the song, like what a new favorite song that I'm listening to there a week, I can, I can do it, if I already let's make it clear by.