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AEW Hot Topics | Something's Brewing in AEW · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition six five four, three two one zero.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AUW Fanho podcast team. We're coming to
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  Speaker 2: you live on x and on YouTube and of course
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  Speaker 2: in a few hours you'll be able to listen to
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  Speaker 2: the audio only podcast on well, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Audible,
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  Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your podcasts. We got a lot
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  Speaker 2: to talk about tonight and I think this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be a really fun show. Hope you guys enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're watching us on YouTube, go ahead and make
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  Speaker 2: some comments chat with us, because we'll see it. We'll
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  Speaker 2: give you a shout out out, we'll answer your your
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  Speaker 2: opinions that you post. So here we go, I think
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  Speaker 2: where I want to start. Guys, there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: and I do mean a lot of I'm having a
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  Speaker 2: technical issue here on a second, here this is there,
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  Speaker 2: we go live TV. What can you do right? I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what. There's been a lot of movement in
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  Speaker 2: a w over the last well several months, but literally
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  Speaker 2: in the last week there's spend quite a bit as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about it, Tony Kahan has
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  Speaker 2: said that David Zaslov, who was the what is he
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  Speaker 2: the president of Warner Brothers Discovery, gave him a gift
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  Speaker 2: that Tony Khn plans to use in the next short while.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what that means. Has he
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  Speaker 2: used it already or whatnot. Tony Kahn also made a
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  Speaker 2: post this week where he said that he's got some
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  Speaker 2: plans to move the business along. And I think I
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  Speaker 2: mean and there we have EP show Conrad, our buddy
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  Speaker 2: Conrad front He just did his his The EPW show
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  Speaker 2: just did their their what was it the award show
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  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five encompassing all of professional wrestling. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to give it away, but you can go
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  Speaker 2: on at EPW show on on on YouTube and you
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  Speaker 2: can watch watch the show in its entirety, of course,
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  Speaker 2: after our show is over. Yeah, Conrad brought up Conrad.
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  Speaker 2: You're more welcome, of course, to hop right in with us.
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  Speaker 3: What did what did comrade mention?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: International media deals question mark? I forgot You guys can't
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  Speaker 2: see it. I am putting it up on the screen
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  Speaker 2: so people that are watching on YouTube can see it. Uh, yes,
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  Speaker 2: we had that. We thought we talked about this last week,
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  Speaker 2: all the factions that are being kind of built with
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  Speaker 2: with at least one woman is there is one faction,
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  Speaker 2: the uh Don Collis family that does not have a
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  Speaker 2: women women on that yet. But we what do we
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  Speaker 2: think I want?
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  Speaker 4: We?
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  Speaker 2: There's so many What does the recent AW signings free mean?
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  Speaker 2: But there's so much to it. There's so much to
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  Speaker 2: it that uh let's explore it. First of all, what
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  Speaker 2: do you guys think of the signings? And the next
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  Speaker 2: question in addition to that is what do you guys
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  Speaker 2: expect it releases? We already lost Powerhouse Hobbes, and I
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  Speaker 2: have to say the AW fanhob community has been nothing,
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  Speaker 2: but we're gonna miss him and we wish him. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what do you guys think about the signings and the
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  Speaker 2: losses that we've had.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I guess I'll start on this.
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  Speaker 6: Because Powerhouse Hobbs like really upset me. I would have
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  Speaker 6: loved to have seen him get a raign as AW
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  Speaker 6: World Champion. I know that's a bit of a hot take,
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  Speaker 6: but you know, I felt like he never really got
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  Speaker 6: pushed into the main event scene and from what I
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  Speaker 6: saw of him in these like higher profile map chase,
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  Speaker 6: whether it was against the likes of Hangman or against Moxley.
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  Speaker 5: He was able to hang with some of.
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  Speaker 6: Aw's and I would have loved to have seen him
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  Speaker 6: get like even a few months. You know, maybe he
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  Speaker 6: won it at Revolution and then immediately drops it at Dynasty. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: that's fine, but for him to not be even pushed
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  Speaker 6: into that spot just didn't sit right with me.
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  Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. I mean, he definitely could
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  Speaker 2: hang anybody else. Any comments about Powerhouse Hobbs before we
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  Speaker 2: talk about the signings.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously I would have loved to see him, say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's a great talent. Uh, definitely a guy
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  Speaker 4: who I thought, you know, future world champion. You know,
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  Speaker 4: every time he was in there with top guys, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he was able to, he was able to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: do his thing look good like well, I you know,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes he just can't. He can't keep everyone. And if
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  Speaker 4: that's what he wants to do, wish him well. Hope
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  Speaker 4: he succeeds. And you know, if if he finds out
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  Speaker 4: the grass aint greener and wants to come back, I'd
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  Speaker 4: be more than happy to see him back. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: hope he does well. Hope he succeeds disappointed he's gone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Hobbs is thirty four, and if he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna give WWE a run, it needs to be now.
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  Speaker 3: They're pretty wary at hiring people in their late thirties,
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  Speaker 3: So from a business standpoint, I can understand him hopping over.
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  Speaker 3: I'll miss the big old guy just like everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: He was a lot of fun. He was getting over
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  Speaker 3: real big. But you know, with two major national promotions,
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  Speaker 3: this gives performers an opportunity to pursue different things when
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  Speaker 3: they feel what change is needed. No harm nobout, Oh no,
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  Speaker 3: we's to do the best man on this one.
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  Speaker 7: I loved him in this new faction with Samoa Joe,
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  Speaker 7: Hook and Debata. Right, yeah, that's the ops, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: I thought he was like the perfect edition because him
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  Speaker 7: and Samoa Joe could be like the muscle Hook has
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  Speaker 7: kind of been like what Wheeler Yuda is in the
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  Speaker 7: Death Riders, though he's not as much of a talker
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  Speaker 7: as Wheeler is. So I thought Shabbat or I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 7: Hobbs rather was doing great and him and Samoa Joe
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  Speaker 7: really were like forming a good connection with each other.
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  Speaker 5: So I wanted to see more of that group.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any opinions on this?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I really think it's a best interest to go
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  Speaker 8: ahead and go to WWE and do his thing. I
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  Speaker 8: think he was never going to be top guy over there,
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  Speaker 8: but I don't think he's gonna be the only one
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  Speaker 8: to leave. And I think Anna J may leave and
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  Speaker 8: some other ones who have more connection over there, and
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  Speaker 8: they need to that they're not going to be used.
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  Speaker 8: Why not be put on x TAM, Why not do
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  Speaker 8: something better with himself? But what I hear, Tony try
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  Speaker 8: to keep him and gave him more money. But I
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  Speaker 8: think he just wanted to do his own thing, and
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  Speaker 8: I don't blame him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did hear that AW did offer him quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit of money. EPW show says that he liked
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  Speaker 2: Hobbes since the AW Dark and then he went on
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  Speaker 2: to say, I hope he got the bag. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I do too, Look, Hobbs. One of the things that
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  Speaker 2: they did say about Hobbes leaving AW is that it
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  Speaker 2: was done, and this doesn't surprise me. It was done
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  Speaker 2: very believe on excellent terms. Barry, you mentioned that Hobbes
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  Speaker 2: is thirty four years old. He actually he actually turns
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  Speaker 2: thirty five on Friday, So happy birthday to Hobbes. You know,
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  Speaker 2: good for him. Look, I aw, fans could tell when
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  Speaker 2: a guy or a woman is a jerk and when
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  Speaker 2: they're not. Powerhouse Hobbs never seemed like a jerk unless
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  Speaker 2: it was in character, because he was a snarling, mean,
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  Speaker 2: big black and jacked guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the best snarl in the business. I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling you, or he has. But I've said it before
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  Speaker 2: and I'll say it again, and I said her recently.
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  Speaker 2: I honestly, if I had to, if I had an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to sit down to dinner with one of the
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  Speaker 2: AW wrestlers on the men's side, it would definitely be
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  Speaker 2: Powerhouse Hobbs because he just seems like a nice guy.
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  Speaker 2: He does. I mean, I don't know. He could be
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  Speaker 2: in jerk, but I sincerely doubt it. He just seems
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  Speaker 2: like the kind of guy that I would want to
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  Speaker 2: sit down and have a dinner with. Well, look, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about why we're talking. You know, mkay, you brought
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  Speaker 2: up an a j Yeah, it does. Look with all
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  Speaker 2: the signings, it does seem more reasonable that Anna Jane
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  Speaker 2: might also be gone. I mean, aw doesn't. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say they don't need Na J. But they
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  Speaker 2: do have options now, you know, with these new signings
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  Speaker 2: that they've had. Who else could I can think of?
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  Speaker 2: Like Dan Housen was more than likely.
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  Speaker 3: Living, Danausen's on his way out, private party, private parties
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  Speaker 3: on their way out. Who I would say, time Mello.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they'll resign her either, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: a J to your point, now, I mean, really what
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  Speaker 3: And I don't mean this derogatory towards Anta J or
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  Speaker 3: time Elo. And this is what you kind of hit on.
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  Speaker 3: There are so many bodies that unless you're a top
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  Speaker 3: you know, a top star, if you've been there three
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  Speaker 3: or four years and you have not cracked that top
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  Speaker 3: spot and you're not an upper you know, an upper
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  Speaker 3: mid carter by now right, it's probably best that you
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  Speaker 3: try something new. Anyways. Like that's that's again, I come
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  Speaker 3: back to a point a minute, a moment ago. It's
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  Speaker 3: why having more than one major promotion is important. People
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  Speaker 3: can stagnate through no fault of their own, and going
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  Speaker 3: somewhere else and getting a fresh start can sometimes be
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  Speaker 3: exactly the shot in the arm they need for their
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  Speaker 3: career and it helps them break through barriers. That could
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  Speaker 3: be the case for any of them.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I think in Dan Housen's case specifically, I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was a stupid signing until he made it. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a stupid signing now. I think it's stupid that
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  Speaker 3: he's kept him on contract doing nothing with them for
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  Speaker 3: this long. I think Dan Holison will be great in
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  Speaker 3: Triple A, but he's He's not a TV character, at
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  Speaker 3: least not.
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  Speaker 8: At w I think he was a pressure signing. I
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  Speaker 8: think people were wanting him because they've seen him on
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  Speaker 8: a Ring of Honor and he was funny and stuff.
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  Speaker 8: But he he never best will he never would be
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  Speaker 8: on skits.
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  Speaker 3: It was the COVID era. You know, he's a well
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  Speaker 3: respected dude living in Detroit metro area. And I know
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  Speaker 3: that basement because I've fit in every basement that looks
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  Speaker 3: just like that growing up that he does. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Tony also signs. Some people just kind of help him
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  Speaker 3: out too, you know. But right, but he doesn't need
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  Speaker 3: to do that anymore, right, correct?
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  Speaker 5: I agree.
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  Speaker 7: I have disagree with you about an A Jay and
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  Speaker 7: ty Mellow because I thought they they should have gone
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  Speaker 7: further in the Women's Tag Team Tournament because they felt
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  Speaker 7: like one of the actual legit tag teams. And that's
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  Speaker 7: part of the reason why I think it's a mistake
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  Speaker 7: to let both of them go, because you need legitimate
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  Speaker 7: tag teams in this new women's tag team division. For
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  Speaker 7: Tony Storm and Minasterrakawa. Sorry not Mena and Tony. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 7: I met Harley Cameron and Willow Nightingale. Excuse me for
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  Speaker 7: them to feud with and you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, just sign my World and high End for that role. No,
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  Speaker 3: I's not a problem bringing these people in. And it's
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  Speaker 3: just again, they've been there forever. They've tapped out. I
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  Speaker 3: know they tagged a little bit, but let's not act
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  Speaker 3: like this as a tag team that's been through the
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  Speaker 3: Ringer over two years that everybody associates together. They're friends,
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  Speaker 3: they've been friends on TV. That's why they tagged together.
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  Speaker 3: There is established as Megan Band and Penelope Forward are,
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  Speaker 3: which is a relative. I mean, they're just they're new,
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  Speaker 3: They're not doing anything. I think they need to go
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  Speaker 3: somewhere new, whether that's TEENAI or WWE and get a
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  Speaker 3: fresh start on Coral.
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  Speaker 7: Response to that would be like, we haven't really seen
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  Speaker 7: them as a tag team though, like.
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  Speaker 3: We have Rollins two years dude, they started back with
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  Speaker 3: the street Fight they did.
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  Speaker 7: Like no, I okay fair, But like with this new
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  Speaker 7: tag team division, you got it, like actually have teams
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  Speaker 7: for the champions to go again. You could have built
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  Speaker 7: up an A Jay and Time Mellow to be legit contenders.
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  Speaker 8: I found to build up my world and and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not necessary with that. They've had that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm saying, they're just not clicking. U see them ever
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  Speaker 8: click and they're not up to scale of what others are.
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  Speaker 7: But if you release ty Mellow, what does that mean
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  Speaker 7: for Sammy Gabar?
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  Speaker 3: The same thing it does for any other couple that's
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  Speaker 3: between promotions. I mean that's you know, it'll be like
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  Speaker 3: Anna j and Jack Perry. Again, they're professionals and they
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  Speaker 3: know that their spouses will work for other companies, just
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  Speaker 3: like we do with any of our significant others. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Malachi Black worked away from his wife for a while.
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  Speaker 3: It got to him and he wanted to get back together.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's just it's it's been going on forever. There's
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  Speaker 3: always been people married working in different portions.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a business. It's a business. You know,
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  Speaker 2: don't lose sight of that, you know, just out of
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  Speaker 2: curiosity last week. Uh, you know. One of the stuff
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  Speaker 2: that we're talking about is stuff that is has been
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  Speaker 2: talked about on the aw fat Hub, subrad and on
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  Speaker 2: our other social media plays forms. All you have to
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  Speaker 2: do is look up so aw fanub on your favorite
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  Speaker 2: social media platform and you'll probably find it. But one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that's been said a lot is how
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  Speaker 2: bloated the AW roster is. So I took the men's
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  Speaker 2: roster is significantly bigger than the women's roster. But when
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  Speaker 2: I took the AW roster of women and the AW
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  Speaker 2: roster of I mean the Ring of Honor roster of women,
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  Speaker 2: it came to about forty one wrestlers. When you take
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  Speaker 2: out the wrestlers that are not performing at all, like
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  Speaker 2: Britt Baker Hakarushida, and then you have also some wrestlers
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  Speaker 2: that are more some women that are on the roster
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  Speaker 2: that are not really known as wrestlers or haven't wrestled,
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  Speaker 2: like Mother Wayne who wishing all the best to Reba,
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  Speaker 2: we love you. And then there's of course some that
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  Speaker 2: have just been inactive for really really long periods of time.
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  Speaker 2: When I did that on the forty one women on
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  Speaker 2: the AW ROH roster right now, there are only eighteen
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  Speaker 2: that are active. That's why these signings, and that is
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  Speaker 2: including Zeta Steel. So that's why some of these signings
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  Speaker 2: in my world at high end that we've got confirmed
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  Speaker 2: from Fightful Select that AW has signed indie wrestler Tatevik
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  Speaker 2: to the women's division and also Lena Cross from the indies.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's leveling up some talent and I think
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  Speaker 3: we're going to see some people not resign. One of
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  Speaker 3: the things that WWV gets a lot of heat for
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  Speaker 3: is when they cut people, and they have a regular
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  Speaker 3: cycle they do it, and I think anybody who's worked
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  Speaker 3: for any sort of large corporation understands what those cycles
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  Speaker 3: are like. In fortune five hundred companies too. You have
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  Speaker 3: to look at it the same way when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to talent. Vwe isn't scared to lay people off, and
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  Speaker 3: that's the big difference. Tony lets contract expire and I
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  Speaker 3: think there is a significant portion of people under contract
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  Speaker 3: on both sides of the roster he has not intended
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  Speaker 3: to use for a while, but he does not cut them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why. I think it's the wrong move.
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  Speaker 3: I think people should be allowed to go work elsewhere
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  Speaker 3: if you're not going to do anything for him. Sitting
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  Speaker 3: at home and not being able to train and compete
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  Speaker 3: as performers like this. That grinds on people. But that's
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  Speaker 3: what he does. And I think we're going to see
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people announce they're not re signing or
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  Speaker 3: will hear that they're going to sign with some other promotion.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are going to wind
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  Speaker 3: up back in the Indies too. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 3: a home for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with you, Chris, you haven't spoken. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's hear what you have to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the signings are definitely part. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there's going to be some turnover, there's going to be
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  Speaker 4: some contracts that are tiring, not going to be you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's definitely a lot of people they're just not used.
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  Speaker 4: But Tony Kahan isn't the one who's just gonna pull
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  Speaker 4: the rug out from under you and say, hey, you
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  Speaker 4: don't have a job anymore. Like I think that's the
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  Speaker 4: biggest deal with why he doesn't cut people and instead
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  Speaker 4: let the contracts expire, Like he doesn't want to pull
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  Speaker 4: the rug out for many one, you know, in a
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  Speaker 4: situation where they're having to where they're not sure how
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna pay their bills.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some people that they really just want to
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  Speaker 3: work to Chris and they can't because he's not doing
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  Speaker 3: anything with them and they're just sitting because he won't let.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like he's kind if they wouldn't ask for
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  Speaker 4: their release. And also they're free to work in key days,
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  Speaker 4: every one of them. That's a that's a part of
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  Speaker 4: their contract, Like they're free to set that kind of
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  Speaker 4: stuff up. And you know, so like you know, if
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  Speaker 4: you say, oh, they want to work, well, then why
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  Speaker 4: aren't they working because they're free too. Well yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: tried to kind of respond to that, like, if you
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  Speaker 4: want to work, go work. He he's literally paying you
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  Speaker 4: and giving you the options to still do other stuff
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  Speaker 4: if he doesn't have anything fortant, like.
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  Speaker 9: I think, I think, well, look, I mean it's one
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  Speaker 9: of the things where Dan House that he wanted to
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  Speaker 9: work where I think I think Tony tends to punish
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  Speaker 9: people who act out, and there are some people who
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  Speaker 9: act for the release and he's fine with, but if
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: you act out the way that Dan Housen did a
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: little bit, and if you act at the way Phoenix did, Uh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: they and you kind of have have to wait it out.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on with Anna j but
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: like Ted Mellow and stuff, I just I think she'd
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: be better in CEMLLL because they may need people like her.
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: But Tony has to realize this is a business, and
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: yes he doesn't want to release people, but sometimes you
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: need this influx and mix people up and freshmen people
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: up so people won't get bored with the women's division especially,
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: and I think that's a few signings that'll be great.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked a lot about the women's division, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: we would be remiss if we didn't talk about the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: men's division as well. Because AW just signed Jordan Oliver
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: and Alec Price. We just signed the confirmed the dual
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: contracts of Etchicero and Mascarat Do Rata as well as Persephone.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe missed the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Co got a dual contract. I wouldn't be surprised if
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: women like I don't know, Catalina and maybe even Olympia
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: got a dual contract from CMLL.
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: You also have the rascals that were just brought in
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and that don't forget there's I did read where, you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we talked to a couple I don't know what was
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: last week or a couple of weeks ago, but we
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: were talking about the demise of Bullet Club war Dogs
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of course, Clark Connors and and Finlay and I can
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: never remember his name, but it doesn't mean Maloney. I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: can never remember Maloney's name. But anyway, I did read
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: where they are exploring dual contracts with them. Also, don't
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: forget that Takeshta. His dual contract with New Japan was
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: set to expire at the end of this month, but
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: it was announced that he did it sign an extension
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: dual contract with New Japan. So he's going to be
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: with New Japan for an undisclosed period of time. I
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: don't think they disclosed the length of the contract, but
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it's probably going to be about a year. I think
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: that was what's the last one was. But again, we've
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: got a situation here where yeah, powerhouse House, Private Party. Uh,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you don't know, guys like Peter Avalon, these are guys
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: that probably won't be around much longer, you don'tso have
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: to consider that, you know, FDR their deals coming up,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and they specifically said in the Ring that when this
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: deal is over, that's it. They're retiring.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I doubt that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I doubt it too, But I doubt it too. But
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: they may. But again, a W is building. The one
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: thing that I really like about it is that they're building.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, Zeta Steele is twenty two and she's already
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: really pretty for her age. I mean I mentioned this
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: on the aw patop subreddit. At twenty two, Julia Hart
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and sky Blue, Zeta Steele is every bit as good
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: as they were, maybe even better at that age.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So are we thinking like there's are we thinking
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: he's going to get serious about getting people reps and
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Ring of Honor and broaden that, getting it out from
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: behind the paywall and running it as a show on
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: me too, because like, there's not enough. There's not enough
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: TV time for everybody, even if they do roster management,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and Tony knows roster management, He's run sports teams. They
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: don't have enough TV time for everybody, and that's always
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: been an issue. So even with people leaving them really
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: focusing on younger talent and Kelson I've picked up on
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: that too. It's a lot of young people they think
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: they and that are either already great workers they can
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: grow into great workers. What do they do with everybody? Because,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: like I think they've got a good core folks on
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: TV now it feels well fleshed out in pretty deep.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: There's not enough time for other folks.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: So you can bring back AW dark and elevation.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: True, but you never know, you know, if that's even
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a possibility. Look when you look, you talk about younger talent.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Maya World was just named Fightfuls Independent Wrestler of the Year.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: They congratulated her in a really great way of saying
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: congratulations and not being eligible for next year because he's
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: been signed. But again, AW is building a better roster,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: but they have I don't know. I'm just saying this
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: out of my ass, but in my opinion, they have
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to release some of these people that they're not using.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: There's no sense in keeping money money, putting money in
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: other people's pockets when they're not on the shows.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I am hoping that that gift you mentioned that Tony
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Tons he got earlier. My hope is that gift is
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a TV spot for Ring of Honor, you know, put
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: it on put it on True TV. You know, hey,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: you put in practical jokers on TBS now, so you
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: have this space, you're not constantly running marathons with that.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Give them a two hour block on True TV Thursday night,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Friday night, you know whatever? I love impractically. Yeah, you could.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Could to to Chris's wait, if you put a two
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: hour block of Ring of Honor on Thursday night TV.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You know what else is on Thursday night right now?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: TNA Impact. Yeah, that would be counter programming.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: To the upmost one of the wrestling on TV. Like
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: you think about this custom for a second, we'd have this.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: This is what a week could be a right. You
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: have Raw on Monday, you've got NXT and Tuesday, Dynamite, Wednesday, TNA,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Thursday SmackDown, Friday, Collision, Saturday, sometimes pay per view Saturday,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: sometimes Saturday at night events, Sunday sometimes pay per views.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Like there's no off days. Where do you put Ring
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: of Honor on TV?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah against head?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I mean like no, TNA T and A starts at
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: nine pm Eastern time. Ring of Honor starts at seven
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: pm Eastern time. I haven't brought it from seven to
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: nine eight. You know, maybe that gift that David Saslov
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: gave to Tony Khan as a temporary thing, a a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: spring series of Rig of Honor on True TV, as
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Chris said, or even T and T. You know, you
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: never know from you know, seven to eight thirty, seven
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to nine, seven to eight, you never know. I think
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: seven to eight thirty is probably the best. But yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I mean the other thing I have to keep it
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: keep in mind is that Rig of Honor announced that
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: at the end of this month they're doing a Global
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Wars with MPH, which is the promotion that's run by Athena,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: which I love that they're doing that. And then in
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: about a month and a half later, I think it is,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: they're doing a show with uh Maple Leaf Pro. Yeah. Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that's Global Wars Canada.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You so, if you're going to do that and that
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: both of those shows are going to be available on
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Triller that was announced. But if you're going to do that,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: use this talent that you're signing. Put them on Ring
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of on or TV on T n T or True TV,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is Chris is you know this is good stuff.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: And we've seen Ring of Honor post full episodes on YouTube.
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: Sure, put on Max I mean they already have uh,
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: put it on or somehow on Max and it can
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: be recorded and then later on people can watch it
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: throughout the week or whatever. I mean, Max.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: That's that's they'll pay for it. They gotta pay for it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: That's the thing that for.
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: Free Max already, so might as well put it on
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: Max if you have it already.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: The other thing about Max is that just this past
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I think this last week, within the last two weeks,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Max became available in eight more countries and I believe
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it's March, maybe it's April. They're going to be available
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: in the UK finally.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: So I read something right before the show started Kelson,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: and that trigger to memory. I don't know what's going
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: to happen with Max, and this maybe is a topic
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: to discuss on next week's show. But Max goes with
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Netflix and TNT and TBS stay with WBD. There is
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: no universe where Netflix for news any aw programming, So
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: think of force on that even if they split it
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: was in their statement today they clarified that it's going
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: with Netflix. It goes with a Netflix portion specifically because
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: people were confused. So even though MAX is going to
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: more markets, I don't think it really means anything for
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: AW long term because they're going to lose that outlet
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: as a streaming partner.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: I hope it's one thing I can watch it on.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I much preferred over Hulu. The compression
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: on Hulu is just really bad. But Max it's just
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: it's just crystal clear. It's great.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Well that's something we're just gonnat the wait and see,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you know, because I mean by then WBD may come
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: out with a not a new HBO Max type of
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: app or service, but maybe do a an app that's
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: that combines things like your T B T and t TBS.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It makes it more accessible to domestic and international viewers.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: All my it T teaps know. The executive says, well,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: we'll just clone all the systems and do a lift
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: and shift. It'll be easy.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: What's a lift and shift?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: The people that know, no, they know what I'm talking about.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, Well, so we've talked about the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: new signings, We've talked about potential releases, we've talked about
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: maybe what this gift that David Saslov gave to a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: w or to Tony Kahan. Uh, you know, it's these
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: are things that are being talked about in the AW
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: PATOB community. And these are things that are really interesting
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to keep an eye on. I mean, I mean, these
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: are things that we may get answer soon. It may
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: be months before we get answers. I don't know, I
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: really don't. But let's move on because one of the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: things that a lot of the A and W found
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Out community is talking about is about the don Kallis family.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that about the don Kallis
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: family that they're talking about is there's no woman in
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the don Kallais family. Before we get into the don
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Kallis family and death writers that are set to collide
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: this week on Dynamite, and it looks like this may
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: be from what people are saying, they really want this
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to be an ongoing program. They don't want this to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: be Okay, They're gonna have this match on Dynamite and
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: then it's gonna be over. But let's address the women
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that go on to what woman could be in the
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: don Collas family. I personally I'm leaning toward laid.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Across Deanna Ferrazzo.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Deanna Parrazzo, persephone anybody else with an idea?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Rawlins, Chris uh, John Callas is not going to bring
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: a woman into his family. Don Kallas only likes big hearts.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: What he meant, well, that sounds like a personal issue.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: He's a little guy. He's a little Well.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about what you just said, Chris,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: don Kallas is a character. Tony Kahn is the one
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that may put the woman into the don Kallas family.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Don Kallas doesn't have a saying it. H rawlins, rawlins
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: are gonna say something.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: I mean, my best guest would be Dianna, But I
• 34:54
  Speaker 7: just can't see somebody like Persephone or one of these younger.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Girls like coming in and like just being like a
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: straight up a badass in the dun Cali family.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Well that's why I was saying Lena Cross, he's Lea
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Cross is not you know, Laa Cross is bigger, as
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: smart as she's taller than Megan Bain. She's not doesn't
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: have uh the I think she's like twenty pounds lighter
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: than Megan bin But later Cross is imposing.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: So yeah, that's what I want to like counteract Marina
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: Shapier because she's been awesome since coming in.
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: She's still the story. Yes, yeah, I can't stortage.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm not too familiar with her story.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: To Nali is A is a volleyball player.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: She's the volleyball model, right, okay.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Right right. I'm not sure about the modeling, but but
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: she's a volleyball player, fairly new to wrestling, and basically
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that's it. Uh, she's what the premiere premier athletes is.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: She's deemed with now at og she is not. She's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: had since December. I think she's had like five or
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: six matches, but they've all been intergender mixed matches kind
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: of like that. Whereas you know, I spoke about light
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Across and Tacovic is thirty six years old. She's got
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a wealth of experience on the indies, very experienced get
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: stepped in. I like the persepity thing with the Collis
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: family because when you look at the Don Collis family,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you've got Andradi Elitlo, You've got Etcha Sero, You've got Clone.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I mean that's all. It's the Luca divisions, like their
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: little wolf back in the and yeah, you could include
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Rocky Romero in there too.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I like, I'd like Don to bring in
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a female. And I'm using the character Don clearly Tony said,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: treat you're saying like you said, it's clearly you know.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: I'd like them to bring in a female character into
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: that that's more than just the wrestler. I really want
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: to see a cocky Mercedes Monet type of personality. Not her,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: but like that type of confidence. Like whoever is in
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: there needs to be a character. They can't be a
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: background or some don talks for I think that's kind
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: of some juice. Otherwise it's just going to be another body. Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: it's a woman, but it's like you got an opportunity
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: to do something here and make somebody. That's kind of
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: why I was focusing on Piazzo, but there's lean across
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: would be great too, if she can talk. I think
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: it needs to be somebody who can talk and really
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: separate themselves as more than just anbody in the family
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: because they'll be the only one and you can really
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: showcase that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Barry, I'm gonna throw another name out there, somebody that
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: was just uh just announced that they are back in
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: training and are traveling with aw thunder Rosa.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, she'd be a cool heel. She would be because
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: like they're not I don't know, they're kind of fun
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: heels because they're not like evil, but they are sorta.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I think she'd be fun in that heel.
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: Group and she can match with those do how's he.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Go ahead? I'm sorry?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Wrong yet?
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: Why we're all saying that the don tells for family
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: needs to add a female, especially if they're going to
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: go against the death Riders. But at the same time,
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: the don Kallis family is so big already, Like it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: hard for.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Guys like even.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: Rocky Romero te get on TV and do anything. So
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: do you really want to add another person into the
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: don Kallas family that could ultimately just get lost in
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: the shuffle?
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Well, they rowlins. If you don't add a woman into
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the don Kallis family, that doesn't the don Kallis family
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: somewhat get lost in the shuffle because they're the only
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: faction right now that I can think of that doesn't
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: have a woman in it. Skyflight as a woman, the
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Premier Athletes, Death Writers, Conglomeration, all these fashions have the three.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: If you want to get technical, yeah.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: That's true, you know.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: The other thing too, is is we've not really seen
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: a don callous level manager in the women's division, Like,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think she'll get lost in the shuffle because
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Don will help establish their position in the women's There's
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: no reason why he wouldn't try to take over the
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: women's division. It fits his character perfectly. It's an easy
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: promo to pivot into him. Why he's bringing somebody in.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: That's why, you know, maybe a newer, newer face like
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Leana Cross would be great, you know, or the the
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: volleyball story Denali or whatever. If she I don't. I
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: don't know how well either of them work. I've seen the.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Story Gali is. She's greed. She's green. Okay, then, but
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I mean say the steel is green too.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: But she can get over based on her athleticism and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: her personality.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: That's why I was kind of defaulting to to an
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: established worker like Deanna.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: But story Galli has been fun the because when she
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: first came out, she was basically slapped somebody up the
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: head and choke slam. Now she's doing moves, she's she's
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: she's getting there, and you've got to be patient. She didn't.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: She was kind of like Anna J. When she came
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: into AW. She really didn't have any indie background. I
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: mean I think story that Ali had more of an
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: indie background than Anna j but not very many matches
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: under her belt. I mean she, like I said, since December,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: she's wrestled in five matches with the varsity athletes and
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: that's the bulk of the work that she's ever done.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So she's probably more.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: She's worked Japan a bunch too.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: She worked Japan, she's worked on She's worked everywhere.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: That's what I was saying, Like, if you're gonna have
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: don make a presence in the women's division, and maybe
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: they don't, maybe they don't bring a woman in at all,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: who knows, But if he's going to manage a woman,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: it's got to be somebody who can like tear it up.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: They got to be they gotta be a to They
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: got to be a good worker, and ideally somebody who
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: can talk. I'd really like to see and established a female,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: a new female heel in that in that division. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: it's got to be a good worker.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: One of the other things, let me just break in
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: real quick at Rollins. One of the other things that
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I do want to bring up is that Megan Bain
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: is a really good worker. Uh, Lena Cross is basically
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the same kind of worker as Megan Ban. She will
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: work her ass off. She'll be available eight days a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: week if you want her to.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: But the.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: She signed, she's not on the official roster. But but
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: neither is rascals right now, they're not on the roster.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: But my point, I'm sorry, my point.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: My point is that with wrestlers like Meghan Baine and
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: uh oh gosh, I lost it. Meghan Bain, oh, Alex
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: windsor Alex Winters just spent a little bit of time
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and she's if you've not noticed, she's not been on
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a W for for a few weeks.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I want her back on a W.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: She's but she.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Was great. Yeah, but she's been over in stardom. Why
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: not just keep sending story Denali? Why not send uh
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Lena Cross? Why not send h Toddavic thunder Rosa is
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: coming off of injury, she's gonna be a little bit,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you know, rusty. Send her over to stardom, you know,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: get them to work and make them ready for primetime TV.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: That's that's my point.
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: And just to be clear, I'm not saying I don't
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: want a female in the done Callous family. It's just
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: that my concern is with how large the don Callous
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: family is and the fact that they're seemingly adding members
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: almost every week. And she's gonna get to the point
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: where you're like, oh, well, who isn't in the don
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: Kallis family, And how do you get some of these
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: guys TV time? Like I said, I don't even know
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: the last time Rocky Romero or Lance Archer, for example,
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: had matches on Dynamite or Collision, So I just.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Had Yeah, I think he was part of the Trios
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: match on Collision on Saturday.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: But do you get but you get no, I get
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: what you're saying. I do get what you're saying because
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: guys like Lance Archer and Rocky Romero have been more
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: in the background, really in the background, kicking people, kicking
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: securities ass as as the other guys are talking in
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the forefront.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, this has to be a e W versus
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: the donn Kallis family. Like the don Kallis family just
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: gets so big that all of the other groups that
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: hate each other have to band together to fight those assholes.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I look, I think I just go ahead.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: No, So don Challous is the model for the don
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Kallis family. Heels stable is to get talent over and
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: cycle them on his baby faces. The first one they're
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: doing it with is Taqueshaa. We're already seeing the seeds
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: planned with Fletcher. Whenever they pull up, they're going to
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: do something. But that's that's why they're doing it. People
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: are going to be leaving the don Kallis family soon,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: and so that's why there's some new people that are
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: coming in. It's not going to get like an NWL style.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: That's not the point of the faction.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: The other thing is is that, Look, we just had
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the whole death Writers thing for that went on for
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the better part of a year, and frankly, AW did
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: not band together to fight the death Writers, at least
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: not effectively. And Writers to me were more dangerous or
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: more of a threat to AW than the don Kallas family.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Where don Kallis family is kind of a you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: we're we're bad guys. We like you to say, you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: f don Kallas and f Wheeler, not Wheeler, you do,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: but boot a hell out of Okata and Takeshta and
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Fletcher and all the other guys that are in the
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: don Kallas family. But you love them at the same
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: time with the Death Writers, you were like you just
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: did not like them at all, that would you just
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: did not want to see them succeed at all. Whereas
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: if Takeshta wins the match, you're gonna cheer for Takeshta.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Bobby Heenan style. Lovable heels is what that that stable
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: is like they're the lovable Heels.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's just it, you know, And I mean,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: how can you take a group? How can you be
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: intimidated by a group that is led by a guy
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: who literally has a vagina on his forehead.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Seriously figuratively, but no, I.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Think it's literally, I really would think. I really think
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: they're not I think.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: To your point, like the Death Writers did some evil
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: stuff as a heel group, and that was the type
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: of heat they got. The Callous Family has never done
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: anything like that. Now, I could be surprised, and they could,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: you know, other than a screwdriver, Like they're lovable heels generally,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: and that's kind of the point of their group. They're
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: just bad guys, you know.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: But it's not the way forget about what they did
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Kitty before all in I mean.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Or what about.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: Screwed over Kenny Omega in the steel cage match against
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: John Moxley.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they have one.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: They have one evil thing they did to Kenny. Can
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: you think of another one? Because I got like six
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: with the Death Riders and they've been.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: People down for no reason. I just beat up.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: It's just being a heel. That's not evil. Yeah, It's
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: putting a plastic bag over somebody's head is evil. Trying
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: to throwing people downstairs is evil. Throwing people into a
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: flaming table is evil.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Darby Allen is supposedly a face and he's thrown people downstairs.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: He he drugs someone, put him in a body bag
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: and drug him along the road. So I mean we're
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: gonna say he was evil a bit.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Darby didn't do that to good guys. Darby did it
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: to a bad guy exactly to get revenge on something
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: the bad guy did.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, babyfaces can't do evil things. They could always do
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: bad things. The track is a heel.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: He didn't attack on the.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Man. I forget about listen.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I don't make the rules, all right.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Good guys can do whatever they want. Bad guys can't
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: do anything exactly.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: That's the way wrestling has always been.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: You know, I should have that. That's my fault, Chris.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: You can you can do a run in as a heel.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: It's different between screwing somebody out of a pin and
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: then like running them over with a truck.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: I would kick people in the balls all the time.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Did they just.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: What happened at where?
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: What about?
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: What happened that world?
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: And where? You know?
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: Okada, use the screwdriver against Takeshta. Kyle Fletcher was gonna
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: do the same thing to Moxley, but oh no, the
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: screwdriver isn't there.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But they were all heels, even Moxley. Really. Look, if
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I was ever arrested for manslaughter and I had to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: if I was arrested for manslaughter and I had to
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: stand before to judge, and he said, how do you plead?
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say babyface, and he'd say, okay, charge is dismissed.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, spinishly. Babyfaces can get away with anything, really,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: And the only time that a babyface can't get away
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: with anything is when when they're turning heel. That's the.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Is just horrible, awful evil and everyone is going to
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: judge him.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, if they accidentally hit a raft, they're just traumatized
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: and emotionally distraught for months on it.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even get me started on the disqualification from
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: last week. Yeah, my god, I was like, that's getting disqualified.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: You're kidding me.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Well, all the stuff that goes on at aw you're
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: gonna get disqualified for that. Okay.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: At any rate, the don Kallis family is great. If
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: you hate the don Kallis family, you're a weirdo. They're great.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But but now we've got the don Kallis
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: family facing the death Riders. You've got Rocky Romero, We've
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: got Lance Archer and et Cicero against John Moxley, Daniel Garcia,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Wheeler Yuda. And like I said earlier, I hope that
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: this is not a one off kind of thing. Okay,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: we won. We're the champs of these little facts, this
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: little faction war. See you next year. I hope that
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: this is something that builds and builds and bills for
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of months and we see it CULMD eight
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: between the don Kalish family and the Death Writers at
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: double or nothing in anarchy in the Arena.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: If you're smart, notice, notice eliminates me right away. This
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: is the appetizer match. Max is the biggest name in
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: this match. These are the lower card guys, right, And
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: I don't mean that in a negative light, especially for
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Garcia and Wheeler, who are working hard and we'll get
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: their their their day. But the other the other guys
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: are lower car guys. This is the first match to
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: kind of build that momentum, Kelson, and if you're smart
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: and this works when you do bring in Claudio, that's
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: when I have don have Wardlow come back to check that,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: and then you have Pop come in. He's going to
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: be paired up against. You could pare him up against
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: uh Taqushta or or Kyle Fletcher. You know, if they're
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: still in that. Like to your point, Kelson, you slower
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: all these matchups and kind of get these rivalries going
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: and you can build a couple of programs out of
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: the silver all feud.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Well, well, Barry, would you agree. Look, we just saw
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: what was it, I can't remember it was Collision or Dynamite.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I think it was Dynamite. We saw the triangle Manness
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: go against the three women that have championship belts and
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: the Triangle Manness won. Do you see this is kind
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: of the same kind of thing where you have Atchisero,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Rocky Romero and Lance Archer beat the Death Writers sure
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: first time out.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah there. I don't know there's a way to book
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: it the right way, but why not? Why not you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: the the easy, the easiest way to juice the feud
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: has had. The bad guys went out of the gate
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: and at the Death Writers are faces, and I think
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: that's where they're turning them. Then, yeah, I think that
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, Chris and.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Lance Archer has beaten Mosley before, I mean it was
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: a Texas death Match. He's still beating them, So you
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: could have Archer, you know, you get to kind of
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: surprise win over Mosley gets the title match but loses it,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: you know, and that that furthers things, you know, and
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: you have of course, you have the Don Talles family
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: attack afterwards, win or lose to keep things further because yeah,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I think it's because Moxley is getting a face reaction
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: from the crowd. The rest of the Death Writers are
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: still getting a heel reaction, and they're still doing all
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: the same old crap with you know, interference and distractions
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: and all that stuff.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: So like you can change that quick though, I mean,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you can flip all of them in a show just
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: like the You.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Know, I think this dude will be kind of what
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: does that like, they'll they'll reach a point where like
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: they're not the worst heels anymore. People hate Don Tallis
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: so much. He is such a detestable, rotten file teeth
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: of guardens that people just naturally hate anyone that's associated
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: with him and will end up being like, Okay, you
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: know what, the Death Writers did a lot of bad crap,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: but Dishausehole is so much worse. We don't like anyone
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: who works with him. We want to Death Writers to
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: beat them up.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Hey, mkay, who would you do pairs with if you
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: were to pair up like competitors, Like who would you
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: pair Garcia against in the Callis Family, or like Claudio
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: against her, Fletcher against and the Death Writers.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: That's hard.
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I really want to see Hetcha Sero versus some people.
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: I think hence Sarah versus Garcia would be fine. Uh,
• 55:51
  Speaker 8: you know, both are pretty good at maneuvering, and they're
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: both kind of still shooter style, So that's my choice.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: Is the issue with the Don Kallis family being so
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: large is like how limited the death Riders are like.
• 56:13
  Speaker 11: It's harder to find good matchups for some of these guys,
• 56:22
  Speaker 11: and that I.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Believe that can cause Issues' say, I got to disagree
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: on that. I think it has more variety and a
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: better chance to because you you want the de facto
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: faced team to lose some battles but also gets some
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: wins along the way which they can get against you know,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: a guy like Rocky Romero or you know, as much
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: as I think Lance Archer should be higher on the card,
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: is what it is. You know, you have a guy
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: get the win against the monster, you know, it just
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: builds them up to John Kallis family being large is
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: a benefit in this situation because it allowed for all
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: kinds of matches, you know, and for them to trade
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: wins for a bit until that big blowoff match.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Well here's here's my thoughts on the don Kallis family. Yes,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: they're large, but they're not infallible. They have eaten especially
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: in there. If you're not to catch Da Fletcher or Okata,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: you have lost matches in the don Kallis family a lot.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Even to catch the Fletcher and Okada lost matches. But
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that some of these people have lost matches,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and the same thing can be said about the death Riders.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: That's why if you're going to build.
• 57:55
  Speaker 10: A feud here, if you're going to build a feud here,
• 58:01
  Speaker 10: you have to have don Kallis family win this trios
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: match tomorrow night.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And I do not believe that you can have Reeler
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: you to take the pin again and make it meaningful.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I think if the don Kallis Family beats the death
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Writers tomorrow night on Dynamite, it's got to be John
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Moxley that takes a clean pin.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: So, Heykelson, so do you what if the person that
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: causes the law like Romero hetches Sarah Archers should not
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: be pinning John Moxley clean unless there's a reason. And
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: so if if you want to get mox in a feud,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: right he needs a match for the pay per view
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: or something to defend that title. Who do you have
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: that's not out there that you do that with? Do
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: you bring out Androida to make that and he's the
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: one that screws over mox or does the nutshot or
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: whatever so that mox can't handle it, and then gives
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: the other reasons you know, the other guy's the pin.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Look, I think I think they should use Moxley to
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: further somebody in the don Kallis family, is what I'm saying.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think it should be Fletcher. I don't think
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: it should be the Keshad. I don't think it should
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: be a caught at least not right now. I think
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: that should be down the line. But if you're looking
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: for somebody that maybe challenges Moxley at say Grand Slam Sydney,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be perfect to have somebody like a
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Roti Beatle.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what. Yeah, it'd be a good match. Yeah,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: him coming out to cause the loss, I think makes
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of sense to set up that. I mean,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: there's so many pieces you can play here.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: I'm looking at the graphic and it says this is
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: a street fight, So that would allow for somebody liking
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: Andrade to come out like your suggesting. But let me
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: just add my two cents on something super quick. Why
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: not have Daniel Garcia pin one of the three on
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: the don Kallis side, Because, at least in my opinion,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: since Daniel Garcia turned while they were doing their residence
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: he in Philadelphia, he hasn't really done much of anything.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Join right, Well, let me answer. Let me answer that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I said that if the don Kallas family wins,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: they should pin Moxley. If Daniel Garcia pins Lance Archer
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: at Cicero or Rocky Romero, that's not really that big
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: of an accomplishment. And I don't mean that in a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: bad way. I'm just saying that if you want to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: make somebody, you have somebody pinned John Moxley. You're not
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: going to make Daniel Garcia by getting a pin in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: this match. And that's all I'm saying.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: The more I look at this, Kelson, the like I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: pointed that Max is the big name and if this
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: is the appetizer, the more I think you're right. I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: think Max is gonna get pinned, and it's just how
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: do they do it? I think I think you're absolutely
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: spot on, Al Kelson. Yeah, I mean with the street
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: fight piece, you can you can do whatever you need
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: to to make that happen.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, perfectly, it really would be. And Andrade comes out,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: you know, helped kicks Mosley right in the dick, and
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: then you can have his finishter get to win, you know,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: because the big freaking guy anything by getting kicked in
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: the balls and dropped with the finisher from a freaking giant.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: And then you have Archer challenge for the title. Have
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: they have a good you know, twelve thirteen maybe fifteen
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: minute battle brawl type of mat Mosley overcomes Andrade's right there.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: As soon as the bell rings and he can get there,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: he attacks boom. You're said, up the match with two
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: matches and you fargre the whole few.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the key, the key Telson is your spot on.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Nobody else pinning anybody moves anybody.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Up right, you gotta move.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Nobody else gains anything unless the only one to gain
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: is anybody pinning mocks in this which is why I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: think you're spot on.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said, I if it is somebody that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: pins mocks may be caused by interference by androde and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: we have it Androtti versus Moxley matched for the Continental
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Championship at say Grand Slam Sydney. I think Androtti's got
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: to win that match. I really do. I'm not saying
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: that he needs to keep the title for more than
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: a month, but You've one of the things that I've noticed. Look,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about this matter of fact, We're gonna
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: talk about this right now. We just saw AEW crown,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: New High Probable High Profile Trio's champions and hang Man,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Adam Paige, Speedball, Mike Bailey and Kevin Knight, but that
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: was done more by necessity because obviously Powerhouse Hobbs contract expired.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: The last day of his contract was the day that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: he that the Ops lost the title. But my point
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: being here is one of the things that I've noticed
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: is that on regular TV, on regular TV shows WWE,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: as of late, whether it's w W or NXT, they're
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: they're they're changing hands. These titles are changing hands, and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I personally think that that makes it must see TV. Hey,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I can't miss this episode of Raw or SmackDown or
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: NXT because somebody may lose a title. You don't have
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: that with AW very often now of course. Yeah, so
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: we did see on New Year's Night, New Year's Eve Night,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: will Ow Nightingale Lou win the TBS Championship Oper Mercedes Monette,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: and of course again on Maximum Car not yet Maximum Carnage,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: we did see the OPS lose the Trios championships. But
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: that's the exception, not the rule. Lately in WWE, it's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: been the rule, and I really do think it makes
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: it more must see TV. What do you guys think?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: I agree, And their papers are structured in a way
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: that needs them to do that, because when you only
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: have a three and a half hour pay per view,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: you can't put every title match on them, so you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: need to move titles on regular TV. And I agree
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: it makes it more exciting. I think we said this
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, that they need they need
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: to stop being scared about moving titles on TV, especially
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: the lower card titles. And this is the type of stuff.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Chris, I know you're trying to chime into.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, I agree, And like,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: you know, I know a few of us have mentioned
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: the trios titles should be like kind of the party
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: belt belts where you know, maybe people don't have something going,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: they can change hands, you know, not ridiculously like oh ever,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: you know, they win, they get a defense, they changed
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: you know, but you can have them change hands a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: little more frequently. Like I know a few people have
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: said combine the AW and the roa. You know, I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: think if you're going to keep the AW on bigger
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: names that you don't but if you're not can bind them,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: let it be a party title, let them change hands frequently.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: And the TNT and TBS titles should be treated like
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: TV titles. They represent the network. They should be regularly
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: defended on those networks. And that way you can have
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: champions with you know, maybe shorter reigns, but multiple defenses,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: and you can feature more people utilizing that those Yeah, I.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Think remember when the acclaimed and I forget where they
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I think it was Swerve in our glory that they
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: would go against They lost the titles, but at the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: pay per view I believe it, but that they got
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: it back on regular TV like a week later.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I mean that one they won the titles. The first
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: time was in New York. They they lost the pay
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: per view and Tony made him two in New York.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the second match in their trilogy.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what I'm saying is that, look, okay, so
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Hangman out of page, Speedball, Mike Bailey and Kevin Knight
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: are the champions. What are the trios champions? Let's say
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: that they have these belts going into Revolution, which is
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: in March. Historically, in AW champions don't lose a healthy champion.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Let me rephrase that a healthy champion does not lose
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: their title their first defense on a pay per view,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that just makes it predictable.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not depends on the team. Depends on the team.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: We don't have any real true trios teams really except
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: one group of individuals they just signed. And so if
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna move.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what's that group of individuals that they.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Just signed, the Rascals, the Rascals?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: What about uh, the other group of individuals that they
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: just signed. There's another trio and Jordan's they they I mean,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: there's people saying, well, they should go, they will be
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: with Nick Wayne. I believe they're not.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Listen, let me just finish the side they they put
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: the Rascals on TV. Right, we know there are trios. Okay,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: the team that has the trios belts as much as
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: love Hangman and uh Jet Speed. They're not a team.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Nobody's expecting them to do a long run. It's not
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: a Brodido type of situation. This is this is a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: win that needed to happen. It was fun and you
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: know what, Kelson, I think, move the titles again quickly.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: You want to get the Rascals introduced as a serious,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: legit group of group of performers. Have them take the belts.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: They can spend, they can pin speedball, they can pin
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Kevin Knight hat. You could have him pin speedball, and
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: that makes Kevin Knight mad because he thinks speedball's holding
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: them back from And you know, maybe that starts a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: singles run. I don't know, but if you do it
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: with the right team, you can move it offen quick.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Well. I got to say something here buryed to you.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: But if you want to establish the Rascals as a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: legit tag team to take note of, I don't think
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: the right way to do to have them hot boxing
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: their locker room.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Well that's their characters.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, these guys are worthless idiots. Let's move on.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: See. And I find them so relatable.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, his whole stick was he smoked pot, so
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: like you know.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: But Van Damn was one of those guys that he
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: smoked pot after he kind of a stablished. That whole
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: thing was after he was pretty much established with the company.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: And it's that's just it's they're just that's their character.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: There is like, Okay, these guys are idiots, they're a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: comedy group. Let's move on, you know kind of thing.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: I gonna think, Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: That's the whole thing outside of the ring. But inside
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: the ring they take it seriously. They still have some fun,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: but they're damn good like that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying. It's more of a funny
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Young Bucks kind of thing outside right now.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: I have give I have seen them wrestle, and they
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: are good inside of the ring. But let's face it,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: many of fans have never heard of them before. The
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: first impression that a lot of fans got of them are,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: oh God, these guys are morons. You know. That's what
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: So I think there's some project going on here.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: But you know, what I'm saying is that if you're
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: going to introduce somebody, you don't want to make them
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: look bad. Now, I'm not saying that being a stoner
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: makes you look bad or whatever, but that was not
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: a great segment to introduce them. I'm sorry it wasn't.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: It was pretty bad.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 7: But like but Kelson Mike, counter to that would be
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: like my first impression of Kenny Omega was when he
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: won the AEW World Championship off of Moxley and he
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: became like this absolute moron outside of the ring, but
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: you knew when he got in between the ropes that
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: he would absolutely put on an absolute banger.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's the same type of thing with the rascals.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: I saw what the former Wes League could do while
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: he was in NXT.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: He is an absolute stud ring right.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is I wish they would have prevented them,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: prevented it, presented them as studs, and then done the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: stoner thing. Okay, lovable studs. Now they're just right now
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: for people that have never heard of them before. Oh,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: they're just a comedy stoner group. That's all.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: You see them in the ring until you.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: See them in the ring, but then, But I think
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: they should have done the in ring thing first. This
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: is what I'm saying.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: I agree that I am yeah, that we met them
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: as characters first, I really do. I understand what you're saying, Kelson.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: But for these characters, I think it's important we see
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: them as characters once or twice first before they're in
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: the ring, because part of them getting over is going
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: to be people realizing these guys can go and they
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: have a lot of fun doing it and don't care.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of the shtick. That's what I was saying.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: It's like the young bucks that smoke pop. They're a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: little goofier, but it's the same type of vibe. I
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: don't know how you kind of work those types of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: characters in debuting them in matches. I think you need
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: to do camera work first to explain who they are
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: a little bit. And I think that's what they're let
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: me rephrase it. I think that's why they're taking this approach.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Whether they're successful starting out this way. To your point, Kelson,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: maybe prove you may be proven right. It was the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: wrong way to do it with that particular skit, But
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: I think that's why they're doing them off camera or
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes first before putting them in the ring.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Welly do you think that they're true? There's going to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: be shown fairly soon and it's going to be all right.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: I just I'm saying, is I just wish they would
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: have done it. I wish I would have had a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: match later on that evening put it that way.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would have been a lot of fun.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Oh right, Chris, I'm sorry.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say. You know, if it does, maybe
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: people are like, oh, they're just a comedy group. Maybe
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: that's not a bad thing because then when they see them,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, oh crap, Okay, these guys aren't just
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: a comedy group. Sometimes lowered expectations are a good thing
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: because then you can still cry on people, and I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: think that's what they'll do. I think people will be like, Okay,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: I don't really know about these guys. They're just kind
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: of these silly stoners, and then they see them in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: action and it's like, oh, okay, they're a lot more
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: than I thought. They just like to have fun outside
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: the ring.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Heviat too, the fourth member. I don't know how that
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: may have played into what they had planned to do
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: and had to change too. They may have wanted to
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: do something slightly different but couldn't because that whole thing
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: ended up going the way it ended up.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the fourth Well, I don't really
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: want to get into a whole lot of that. As
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: far as what happened, yeah, I mean, but it seemed
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: like it was from what I would spend reporters, kind
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: of like a J Brisco thing where he said something
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: something in the past that that should not have been said.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: And even though he apologized profusely. This was a not
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: an a w call. It was not anything but a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: WBD call. So hopefully at the point its way.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: My point was they have made They may have had
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: a different skit written, and when that change came from
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: upon high, this is what This is what they ended
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: up coming up with to get as close to what
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: they try to do well.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Could be Yeah, to.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: Get the conversation back on track though me personally, and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: this is because I'm such a big band of Heavin Knight.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: I love that he's got a champion.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 12: I think it is well overdue for him, and I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 12: was gonna for uh it's a cave fabe, but I
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: love that they are doing the singles match on Dynamite
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 12: him again, Swerve Strickland.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 13: I think you can throw the physics books out the
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 13: window for that match because they are gonna do things
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 13: that you're just like, wait, how is that humidly possible?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Rollins, you said something. Just then you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: said it's a and we're gonna go right it's does
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: anybody have anything to talk about? That's cafabe? This this evening.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I love sky Blue Pirate Johnnoxley's face. This is great
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: graphic this week. It's always got to have a pencil mustache.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 10: People are listening to this odd the podcast. On the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: audioly on the video a picture of John Moxley shrugging
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 10: in the middle of the ring with with a really
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 10: awful AI version of sky.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: Blue and Pirate with the anyway. So I'll be at Dynamite.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I'll be at Dynamite tomorrow. I'll be in the fourth row.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I should be on camera all night, right in the middle.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I'll have a black T shirt on with white text.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: It's this cool supplex bro. I'm going to try to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: make a sign that says the same thing. So that's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: like you see me. But I'm super excited. So Audition
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Financial Arena is where my University of Central Florida Night's play.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: I have season tickets for basketball. I've been to a
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: bunch of a w shows there. It's a nice little
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: midside venue. The crowds are always hot in Orlando. You know,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: wrestling good and I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: be a really really fun show.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I gotta say, Berry, it's as.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: I've not.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I forgot what I was gonna say because I beat
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: an idiot. No, So what you need to do is
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: on that sign. You also need to put aw fan
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: out real big on it.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: I dude, they have a thing that says you cannot
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: self promote.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: My name is very hungry.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Now if I have another sign that said you know what,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: on the other side, it'll say it's a that's what
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: I'll do. One side I'll say, we'll say quol souplex bro.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: The other side will say it's a Well, if.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: You look on the street, that's the way you pronoun
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: to spell it. It's a you can't part it's a cafabe.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: People are like, what's it? What's a cafee? And you've
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: got to somehow take up you got. I'll send you
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: the picture. You can cut it out, print cut it
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: out sky blue and a pirate outfit with the it's
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: a cup.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I'll just print this out.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: People look at the side, are gonna be like, what
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: the appen is this supposed to be.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Four poster board? Please?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: We will know.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Peoples is the sky Blue's blue character. It's a cup
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: of what the sky Blue comes out and she looks
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: and she takes her side and goes, well, what the hell,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: and you say it's.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: A You have to have the attire is a pencil mustache,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: a beret and a matador tape like that.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: There you go. I planning got doing every week a
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: different character, of course. Last week was Chris Jericho as
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: a Italian chef. This week it's sky Blue as a pirate.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Of course, Chris Jericho had the Pensulton mustache. Sky Blue
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: has a Pensulton mustache. Next week it'll be a male wrestler.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: And I if you want, if you have suggestions, I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: have one public posted on the ad the Everything Pro
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Wrestling Discord. The link is in the description of this podcast,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: and you can give me all kinds of uh suggestions
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: for it's and I will try to in the coming
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: weeks work your suggestions in somehow.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the first time I get to see
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Kenny Omega wrestle live. I've missed him every time they've
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: come to Orlando. He's been heard out. Yeah yeah him,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: And then who else am I finally getting to see live?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 7: I'm very jealous that you get to see I haven't
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: seen correctly versus Kevin knightmatch.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Oh no wait, I see yeah, No, I saw Tony Storm.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: No I didn't. I guess she wasn't on the never mind,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: I'm rambling. Oma was the big one on my list.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: They get to check off, so does anybody else?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: I have it.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: It's a.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: We have.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, go ahead, okay.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: The one new Japan roundup. We have brand new never
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: open weight six man tag champions in Olten oat Legki
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: Koto and Yoshihashi, brand new number one contenders for the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: i w t P Heavyweight Tag Team titles in Shokumino
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: and Yoma, and the finals for the Young Lion Copper
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: set with Murashima. Yeah, he's my choice for when taking
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: on show Matako. That's all the important that. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: It's Rolins. Did you have one?
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  Speaker 5: Dressed it strict good versus Kelson? You got there. I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: love that they're doing Swerve Strickland versus.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: Kevin Knight on Dynamite, and they kind of built up
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 7: to this match a little bit because Kevin Knight was.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Getting into Swerve space, and Swerve.
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  Speaker 7: Is like, well, if you go out and win a
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: championship tonight, maybe you and I can do this dance
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 7: and then him Speedball and hang Man go on and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: win the trios match or trios titles. Rather, Swerve comes
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  Speaker 7: out and he's like Okay, now we'll actually do this match.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm kind of expecting a clean finish, but I'm
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: partially not because it feels like they could be building
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  Speaker 7: up to a singles program between.
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  Speaker 5: The two of them.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know that means one of them is gonna
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 7: turn heel or not, but I would love it. They
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: ran the singles match back at Ricchet and Uh, you sound.
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  Speaker 3: Like you're standing in front of a jet engine. Really, yeah,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: what happened? Something happened? You suddenly sound completely different than
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: than the earlier part of the show.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: And I did nothing. But anyway, the echo, could you
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: still hear it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as you talk, the background noise goes down a
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: little bit, but it's yeah, something something on your computer
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  Speaker 3: changed its sensitivity or whatever it's it's it's a hey,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: I got a funny before we wrap up. So what
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: I don't remember if it was collision or dynamite. Last week,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: but Pock and Wheeler Youda were in a tag match
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  Speaker 3: against I think maybe it was a six man again
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  Speaker 3: Skyflight or some people in Skyflight. There was a spot
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: where they were running the ropes. Pock and Uh Wheeler
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: were crisscrossing. I didn't notice this other than going, why
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: do they keep running the ropes?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And then like out of nowhere, Wheeler does this flip
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  Speaker 3: to the floor and then attack somebody not and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: that was really bizarre. Well I missed all of this,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: but Brian Alvarez mentioned on one of the one of
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: the shows he does that evidently the Skyflight guys weren't
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: in position and they were supposed to dive outside and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: so they weren't there, and they weren't there, and so
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: wheelerned pot kept running and kept running, and evidently Wheeler
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: said something to Marina and you can see her start
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: laughing at ringside, and Wheeler just says, for you know, fit,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going and just jumps over the rope to continue
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: the match because they had no other way to get
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: out of run of the ropes there any rate, I
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: haven't seen something look that weird on TV in a
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: long time. But go back and watch that and you'll
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: see Marina start to crack up, and you'll see Wheeler
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: start looking around being like, what are we going to
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: do to get out of this? And then he just
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: flips to the floor.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was I forget which one of the Martin
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: brothers was one was in his spot, but the other
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: just like stayed down. He was supposed to, like I
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: think he was supposed to kind of like slowly crawl
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: over and stand up and then get hit, but he
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: just never started moving.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: It happens. But anyways, it was just it was weird.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: It was weird.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I have one thing I think, kind of fun,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: kind of silly. I just I put on a random
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: playlist the other night, and it made me think about
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: like alternate themes for wrestlers, like where it could just
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: be any saw. You know they don't you don't have
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: to worry about riots and blah blah blah. This is
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: literally just fun shit. I have three, Give me more
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: if you guys are into it. The Joker for Orange
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: Cassidy Joker, Smoker, I think it kind of fits them.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: I'm not okay for Darby Allen because that boy ain't right.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: He's fricking insane. And then of course jungle Jack Perry
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: wants to show show Showgate that jungle We oh, we
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: like I said, it's.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: It's but very by still having this uh background.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: No, you sound like you did it earlier. Everything. Yeah,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: you sound like I don't know I don't.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Know what happened either, because nothing was going on. I
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: do have one a little it's that we're going to
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: wrap it up.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: As you probably know if you've been paid attention to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: particularly Reddit, maki Edo is joined stardom, and recently she
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: was she was paired with Kiko Forsawa, who is a
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: younger wrestler who is similar in Machio only in a
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: way that their gear is pretty much alike. Their personality
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: is totally different, but they paired them together in a
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: tag team. This week, they come out together with maki
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Edo's Brooklyn the whole entrance theme. Machiito comes out, she's
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: singing and she's dancing, and Kikyo Fursawa, in a brilliant,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: brilliantly awkward manner, tried to keep up with machi Edo
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: singing and doing all the dance moves completely out of time.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: It was awkward as hell and hysterical. You've got to
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: go online and watch just the entrance. You can just
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: just look up Machio and you'll find it. It is
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: funny and it's almost uncomfortable how bad Kikyo Kersau is
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: at dancing. It's it's unbelievable.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: She's trying, but she just doesn't have it. But she
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: keeps trying so hard, and and she's kind of like,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: what the hell is doing?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: Because I was watching it and I was saying, I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: was like, I was embarrassed for a first, and then
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, she's meaning to do
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: this is cafabe. She is meaning to be awful.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: But maybe it's.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be looking for Barry tomorrow night with his
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: uh it's a cafabe sign.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll see what I can do. I gotta
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: I gotta get the poster board. I wasn't gonna be
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: a sign, but I have to.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: You have to Now that's that's it's nothing.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: Will be the time I got my more like C
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: M cock sign on TV a bunch of times when.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: They were.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: At Yeah, oh it was so good, but I got
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: it on a couple of times.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: But anyway, look watch tomorrow night after Dynamite EPW show
• 1:28:07
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• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: are always fun. Conrad at the boys, I don't know
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: whose partner is going to be tomorrow night. They always
• 1:28:17
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• 1:28:21
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• 1:28:27
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• 1:28:32
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• 1:28:43
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• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: a whopping eighteen subscribers. Our old YouTube channel, which had
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: like four thousand subscribers, got accidentally deleted by us. It
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: was nothing that YouTube did. It was a miss made
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: by aw fat Hub nobody. That's not me and it's
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: nobody on this podcast. But yeah, it was deleted. We
• 1:29:10
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• 1:29:11
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• 1:29:16
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• 1:29:20
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• 1:29:23
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• 1:29:26
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• 1:29:31
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• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: night at AEW Dynamite. It's a.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: Time, all right. Good night Eddie Kingston, Good night, Eddie Kingston.