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Vikings First Round Draft Picks, Goat TEs, Ranking Vikings Recent Drafts | TSH Ep. 134 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of the School Hop. I'm Evan, I'm Austin, and where's
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  Speaker 1: this couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
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  Speaker 1: and talking about the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And this week, Evan, I won against
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  Speaker 2: all odds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe it, but I had to pay
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  Speaker 1: for it and I owned up to it. But we
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  Speaker 1: played some other games and it was kind of fun
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  Speaker 1: in this kind of quiet season of the NFL offseason. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I quizzed you on some NFL Vikings draft trivia
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  Speaker 2: and you had me pick up a lineup of the
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  Speaker 2: current greatest tight ends maybe a couple meh tight ends
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  Speaker 2: in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was all fun and games until we got
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  Speaker 1: to Dustin Baker's article about the best and worst drafts
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  Speaker 1: in the last five years. Kind of turned out to
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  Speaker 1: be somewhat controversial.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun, though we may or may not
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  Speaker 2: have agreed with all of Dustin's opinions. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: still really enjoyed talking about all those draft picks.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. It was a lot of fun. Wherever you are,
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  Speaker 2: Yep scholl hot. All right, ev we're having a beer
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  Speaker 2: tonight that I've never had before.
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  Speaker 1: We've had this beer, but slightly different, right you.
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  Speaker 2: Know if we've had so we're talking about local brewery,
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  Speaker 2: five Cities Brewing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up while you talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead and look it up.
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  Speaker 1: Prove me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to be proven wrong, but this is the
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  Speaker 2: bikini bottom, and this is the first time I've seen
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  Speaker 2: the bikini bottom in this form. This one is the
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  Speaker 2: bikini bottom Tangerine wheat ale. Their original bikini bottom, I
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  Speaker 2: believe is a pineapple flavored ale pilsner. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: probably an ale, but this one. I was at our
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  Speaker 2: favorite local high V and I think we have a
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  Speaker 2: listener from that from that high on ie, so if
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to shout out to you.
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  Speaker 1: And I was there.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight and I saw tangerine wheat ale of the bikini bottom,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't think I've ever had that, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not super often, especially with Five Cities, that I see
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  Speaker 2: one of their beers that I've never had before. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm really excited. I'm not a big fan of the
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  Speaker 2: pineapple version. Did you look it up?
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  Speaker 1: Probably had? We have not had this. We've had plenty
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  Speaker 1: of Five Cities on the show, but not this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this.
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  Speaker 1: One or the pineapple Yeah, I should clarify. So no
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  Speaker 1: bikini bottom of any variety.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm super excited about this one. Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think there's other tangerine wheats. I think, Yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: have another one isn't that what the crushing on amber is?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a no? No, no, no, no, no, that's a
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  Speaker 1: that's an amber. I think you're thinking of crush tangerine wheat,
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  Speaker 1: and I wonder if this maybe took its maybe spot.
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  Speaker 1: I think that crush tangerine wheat was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: play on like orange crush soda.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, is that also from Five Cities?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the crush tangerine wheat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so pour it out. This does have
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  Speaker 2: an orange kind of tint to it, but I would
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  Speaker 2: say it's also it looks very similar to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ip as we've had.
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  Speaker 1: What's up with your poor?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that's I think I didn't do a
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  Speaker 2: hard poor, but obviously yours has much better head retention
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  Speaker 2: than mine. I can see carbonation in mind, so it's
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  Speaker 2: not like a dud of a can.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited. Let's scull it up school.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of wondering if they took the crush
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  Speaker 1: tangerine wheat and kind of rolled it into the Baking
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  Speaker 1: Bottom series because this tastes like crush orange soda.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really good. Though it's orange, it's nice
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  Speaker 2: and sweet, but not like candy sweet, like it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's good.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tasty sweet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a I would say a summer beer
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  Speaker 2: like this is definitely you know, get off the lawnmower,
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  Speaker 2: crack a few of these open, you like you like
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  Speaker 2: a lawnmowerhy and just you know, getting all hot outside
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  Speaker 2: and being done mowing the lawn, just cracking open a
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  Speaker 2: nice refreshing beer. This one definitely high on the lawnmower scale. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I like it a lot. It's it's really good. Five
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  Speaker 2: point what is it? Five point two percent, five point
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  Speaker 2: four Kansas five to two so to shoot, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: could toss more than a handful of these back and
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  Speaker 2: still be doing just fine, or you know, only have
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  Speaker 2: two or three and like we're gonna do and you know,
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  Speaker 2: wake up the next day as if nothing happens. So
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  Speaker 2: I like it a lot. I'm really excited to have
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  Speaker 2: a few more.
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  Speaker 1: Throughout the episode. Yeah, good beer.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm also really excited about, Evan.
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  Speaker 1: I got to pay up on a bet.
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  Speaker 2: So you're our college football If there was a college
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  Speaker 2: football expert, college football basketball, college basketball expert on the
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  Speaker 2: school hop, it would be you.
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  Speaker 1: And not that much of an expert.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, I will say too. On the episodes that which
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  Speaker 2: we need to have them on again very soon, Front
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  Speaker 2: of the Show Forest. On the episodes Front of the
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  Speaker 2: Show Forest is on, he probably wipes the floor with
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  Speaker 2: both of our knowledge of college basketball and probably college football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but of us. You know, you know way
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  Speaker 2: more about college basketball than I do, and that's I
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  Speaker 2: have no problem admitting that. But I will also have
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  Speaker 2: no problem admitting that I wiped the floor with you
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  Speaker 2: and our March Madness challenge here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's let's not throw around these lofty terms.
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  Speaker 2: I kicked the crap out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a close game. You have happened to
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  Speaker 1: pick the winner of the national championship.
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  Speaker 2: I beat you by two hundred and twenty points.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually not a lot in the grand scheme of things.
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  Speaker 1: It's enough for me to beat you. Why I win.
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  Speaker 1: We can split hairs or not. The point is we
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  Speaker 1: decided that the loser had to take a shot of alert.
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  Speaker 1: So here I am, and we're prepared for that, So
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and pull it for me. I will take
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  Speaker 1: my punishment like a man.
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  Speaker 2: There has been a couple of times now that I've
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  Speaker 2: had to take a shot of alert on the show.
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  Speaker 2: What was the last time that I had to take one?
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  Speaker 2: It was I don't remember because I had to take.
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  Speaker 1: A shot at weeks ago and where the Bears Jersey? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: A few weeks we played we played uh oh, we
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  Speaker 2: played cards?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know I listened back to that. I'm sorry, listeners,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for still being here after that quite a bit. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, look at it, though, I don't think it
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  Speaker 2: was too bad. I don't think it was too bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's like up to yours.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's no, no, it's it's definitely lower than the
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  Speaker 2: first ridge here. All right, all right, you can do this.
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  Speaker 1: It's close.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's about as much as you gave me.
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  Speaker 1: Like, no, this is a two sipper. You down to
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  Speaker 1: everything in one sip? Okay, this is this is a
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  Speaker 1: two sip Evan.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to be a jerk. And if you
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  Speaker 2: had a funnel, I would say that we could put
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  Speaker 2: it back in here, but unfortunately we've searched everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a funnel.
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  Speaker 2: So bottom is up, sir, school. Oh you purposely sip.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's looking how much is left in there?
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  Speaker 2: That's a that's a mini sip right now and it's.
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  Speaker 1: Dripping down the side. Oh, it's springtime in Iowa and
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  Speaker 1: the dandelions are starting to come out in my yard,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I might go pick some to garnish
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  Speaker 1: my drink here because I think it might make it
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  Speaker 1: taste better.
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  Speaker 2: I you feel that I give you. I give you
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  Speaker 2: so much on accident there. I wasn't trying to trying
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  Speaker 2: to be a jerk, but I know this won't be
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  Speaker 2: the last malort bet we have, and I know that
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  Speaker 2: I will lose mylort bet in the future, so keep
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  Speaker 2: that in mind. How you doing, ev.
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  Speaker 1: The beer tastes better? How does the beer taste combined
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  Speaker 1: with the alort? It kind of cancels it out for now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that the dandelion taste leaves eventually and I
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  Speaker 1: can get back to the sweet tangerine flavor of this
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  Speaker 1: Five Cities? What did we learn, Evan? We learned that
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have picked who I picked, and you got lucky.
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  Speaker 2: Well you you picked North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Stupid pick. I don't even know what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: And we basically we should have chalked the bet of
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  Speaker 2: as a loss for you right after the first round.
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  Speaker 2: We should although it was close. Had Michigan lost, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: even with the way everything panned out, had Michigan lost
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  Speaker 2: the National Championship game, I would have, I think lost
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  Speaker 2: the challenge.
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  Speaker 1: I was hanging on there till the end, and I
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  Speaker 1: was actually doing pretty well in my work bracket too.
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  Speaker 1: But of course a handful of people I work with
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  Speaker 1: picked Michigan and so that was not But we'll do
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  Speaker 1: that again next year. I think that was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to apologize. That was more of a
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  Speaker 2: poor than I anticipated given you, so I knew took
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  Speaker 2: it like a champ. You didn't complain, But now I
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  Speaker 2: know next time I went to bed, next time I
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: wipe the floor with you on our March Madness bed, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be a little bit nicer next time I win. No,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's how it goes revenge. What we
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  Speaker 2: need to do is just get some like Customs School
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  Speaker 2: hot shot glasses.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Then we don't have to use these awesome top cups
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  Speaker 2: and it'll just be measured out for us.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if Malort in a tin cup
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  Speaker 1: like all it's just like not because I get I
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  Speaker 1: still have the like the tinny flavor in my mouth,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's attributed to the cup or.
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  Speaker 2: I would think the top cups are probably like coated
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  Speaker 2: with well enough because.
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  Speaker 1: We've had beer out of them and I've never felt
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  Speaker 1: like the beer was tiny flavored. But anyways, I'm not
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: a fan of Alert. I know you like it well.
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  Speaker 2: I like it in small doses. I've never had more
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  Speaker 2: than a shot at one time.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I want to know, what kind of cocktail
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  Speaker 1: do you make with mad.
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  Speaker 2: I think we asked that of our listeners recently and
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  Speaker 2: didn't get a single reply. That would be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: know because if there is like a good cocktail that
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  Speaker 2: you can make with malort and not just like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: here's a drop of malort, just to say we added
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  Speaker 2: it to it, like like a featured Malort cocktail, like
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  Speaker 2: I'd try it.
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  Speaker 1: Well. Malort is like honestly worse to me than Jaeger,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't like, oh, I love Jaeger, I hate
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  Speaker 1: black licorice. Then Jaeger is like the devil's liquor. In
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, it's the worst all right, well more for me,
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  Speaker 1: but Malert is worse than that, honestly, m So are
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  Speaker 1: you looking up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I got a whole list of This
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  Speaker 2: is from co pilot, so we know my opinions on
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  Speaker 2: AI immediate answers to questions. But this says, what are there?
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  Speaker 2: Six of them? Five of them right here? Citrus Milert cocktail,
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  Speaker 2: Milert sour malort and tonic Milert mule, a Milert slushy,
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  Speaker 2: blend Malert with ice and your choice of fruit or
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  Speaker 2: frozen treat that let's go terrible. All right, Well, maybe
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  Speaker 2: that'll be a bet that we can we can have
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  Speaker 2: like a Milert slushy if one of us loses.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, Well, we're gonna play some
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  Speaker 1: more games here. Yeah, we will get to some vikings talkers.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, we're gonna talk about the draft. And you
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  Speaker 1: found a good article from friend of the show, Dustin
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  Speaker 1: who you got to talk with last week, which is
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't need a chance to check out
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  Speaker 2: episode one thirty three last week at the school hop,
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  Speaker 2: it was just me and Dustin Baker. You had a
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: full week, full week scheduled, so it was actually really
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  Speaker 2: cool that Dustin was available last week. Otherwise listeners would
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  Speaker 2: have just heard me, yeah, and for probably what would
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: have ended up being like twenty minutes maybe. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Dustin and I we talked about. Everything we talked about
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  Speaker 2: is probably still relevant. I don't think we talked about
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  Speaker 2: any player or move or transaction that has been debunked
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  Speaker 2: or happened since last week, So go ahead and check
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  Speaker 2: it out. I had a lot of fun talking to him.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, like you were saying, we got another article
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  Speaker 2: from him this week that we'll talk about a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we do have a couple of games. It's
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: been quiet, I think. Yeah, like Vikings news has been
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty relaxed lately. There hasn't been a whole lot
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: going on. So we're going to play a couple of
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: games and then we'll get to some Vikings talkers. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to rank the last five drafts for the Vikings,
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  Speaker 1: which which is what Dustin does in the article. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll look forward to that. But you're gonna quiz me
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  Speaker 1: on some stuff. First.
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  Speaker 2: Do we want me to do my game first?
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why don't you go first? All right? I will
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  Speaker 1: challenge you to my game second.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, So, like you mentioned, we will talk about our
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  Speaker 2: opinions of the upcoming almost here NFL Draft next week.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be our last episode before the draft happens next week.
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  Speaker 2: So this week we'll kind of recap previous drafts and
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  Speaker 2: a kind of fun little trivia way we can do this,
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  Speaker 2: ev is, I'm gonna throw some positions at you, some
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  Speaker 2: NFL positions, and I want you and I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: a number of each position, and I want you to
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  Speaker 2: tell me all of the players that the Vikings have
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  Speaker 2: drafted at that position in the first round in their history.
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  Speaker 2: So we're not gonna do every position, all twenty two
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  Speaker 2: or twenty five or whatever positions there are.
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  Speaker 1: There's only a few. I think I've got four here, and.
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  Speaker 2: We'll just go down the list. So I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: the choice of which ones you want to go first. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there is quarterback, safety, guard, and center.
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  Speaker 1: This is not going to be super easy for me.
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  Speaker 1: I guess let's start with quarterback because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I can do that. All right, You're gonna tell me
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  Speaker 1: how many correct players have been drafted in the first
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  Speaker 1: round by the Vikings at the quarterback position. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And importantly, this isn't how many quarterbacks have the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: had on their roster and their history that have been
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  Speaker 2: drafted in the first round, because that would be three
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  Speaker 2: of the four quarterbacks on the roster at this moment.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Kyler Murray was first overall. JJ McCarthy all
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  Speaker 2: first round picks, so importantly, these are for all positions here.
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  Speaker 2: These are only players that the Vikings have drafted in
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  Speaker 2: the first round, so evan in their history, the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: have drafted five quarterbacks in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: If you can, we'll go.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, last name for sure, but you should be
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: able to get first name for all of them. And
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: for fake bonus points, give me the year.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, well, I'm just gonna go with the easy one.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy got it all right. And the year, uh,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Are you sure about that? You're locking
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that one in four? Sorry?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Okay for the game that the year is not the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: important part.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: But that's a tricky one because like he didn't really
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: play a whole lot.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: He was out his whole rookie year, his whole rookie.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Year, so I forget about that sometimes.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: All right, you got one.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: There's four more of Okay, I feel like Fran Tarkin
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't a first round but then I feel like he was.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back to him, all right, another one
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that I know then I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: he was a first rounder. I'm gonna go with Tommy Kramer.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Ooh what year? M he had to have been after
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: like maybe while Fran was playing still, But and now
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that I think about it, was Fran Tarkenton drafted by
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the Vikings. He played for the Giants for a while.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He did play for the Giants for a while, but.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I think he was drafted by the Vikings, but possibly
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: not in the first round. Tommy Kramer, I'm gonna go
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: with Tommy Kramer. I don't know the year. I'm gonna
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: say nineteen. I know it starts with the nineteen. We'll
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: say nineteen seventy eight, Oh.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Close, seventy seven. Okay, but he was a first round pick. Okay,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: three more of.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see who else.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Think of just all the quarterbacks we've watched, these are
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: all gettable. There's not like a random one in like
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the eighties that we never heard of, like there's there's
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: all these are all gettable.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But the quarterback. Like I'm going back a little bit
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in like recent history. I guess like Kirk wasn't a
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: first rounder, wasn't drafted by the Vikings. My mind goes
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to Divaris Jackson. He wasn't a first rounder.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think he was a second rounder.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that. Okay.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Also, we are Teddy was Teddy?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Teddy? Teddy? All right, I'm locking in on Teddy Teddy?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: What Teddy Bridge? Okay? He was the first rounder? Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say Teddy. Any idea on the he
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: would have been give me twenty.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Eleven or twelve, neither of those, but the year's not important.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: It was twenty fourteen, ah, shoot, okay. I watched him
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: play at TCF Bank Stadium now Huntington Bank Stadium, which
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: would have been one of the only two years they
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: were there, and it must have been twenty fourteen. It
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: was either twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen because my wife
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and I had just gotten married. We got married in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: thirteen and I had like the greatest week of football
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: in my life. I went to a Hawkeye's Huskers game
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Nebraska Iowa game at Kinnick Stadium. It was my only
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: game at Kinnick Stadium.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Ever, we need to change that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And Nebraska, which my wife's family are big Nebraska fans.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Nebraska won in four overtimes in that game. And then
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: so that was Black Friday, because that game is always
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Black Friday. And I think like two days later we
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: went to Minneapolis and we stayed in a hotel and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: watched the Vikings play the Packers at TCF Bank Stadium
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and Teddy was the quarterback the long long walk for
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the short drink of water.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: But okayo, yeah, twenty fourteen or twenty he.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Might have that might have been his rookie year. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I've always said that game, had there been three more minutes,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: four more minutes, the Vikings would have won that game.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: They lost to the Packers. It was close, kind of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the whole game. The Packers scored late and then the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Vikings got the ball back. They just couldn't turn it
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: into points out another time for Teddy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So ye, all right, there's two more quarterbacks and there
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: they are definitely gettable.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I gotta do some more thinking. Let me ask a question.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Does I know what you're going to say? Does this
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: quarterback have a jersey in this room? Yeah? Absolutely, okay, Dante.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh do you know the year?
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Uh? He would have been gosh, what two thousand and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Close, two, close, three, getting further away, getting further away.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Ninety nine.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: There it is, right after the right after the Magical
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and nineteen. Yeah, all right, one MOREV and you can
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: definitely get it. And if you don't, you're not a moron.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But you're gonna.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Think, ah, how did I miss that one? It's definitely,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: he's definitely missible, He's probably.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Is it our era of Yes.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: We watched this guy get drafted.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: We watched him get drafted.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: We were in college and watched this guy get drafted.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: We did. We were not together, but Christian ponder, Yes,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: all right, what year this is a draft we'd all
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: like to forget. Let's go with it's probably what eleven.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Twelve, eleven, twenty eleven?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Up. Okay, that wasn't as bad as I thought it
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: would be. Yep. I feel way less confident about the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: other positions. Honestly, we might pick like one more.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I think, No, I think you can get all of these.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: So there's safety, guard and center in between all three
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: of these positions left. There are six players.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, so which one is the most safety? Okay, let's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: go with that, all right, how.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Many remember I don't know if this is so there's three,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if we were recording yet, but
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I think this is the one that I told you.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Of this whole list, this one might be the only
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: one that might not be easily gettable because mostly because
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it's before our era. But he did recently kind of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: pop up in in the news a little bit for
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: unfortunate reasons.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, popped up in the news for unfortunate reasons. So
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: he would have been recent.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Well, the news was recent, but I wouldn't focus on that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Just think of safeties that have been drafted by the
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Vikings in the first round that you know.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Of for sure. Okay, Harrison Smith wasn't a first rounder,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: was he? He was a first rounder? You're you're looking
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: at me like you was. I'm gonna go with Harrison Smith.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first round absolutely was the same year. He
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: was the second first round of that year, same year
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: that Matt Khalil was drafted, like fourth overall.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Which would be what twenty thirteen.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Twenty twelve, twelve? All right, two more of one pretty
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: recent and one was right before we were born.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, the one before we were born. I don't think
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I can get.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: You've heard his name recently, but honestly without it for me,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: if I was on sitting in your chair right now,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: even with the recent news, it would probably have gone
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: over my head.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Oh so he's the one that's been in the recent news. Yeah,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I've.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Been paying he recently passed away.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Oh okay? Oh uh, Joey Brown, that's right, okay.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Any guests on the year, I say just before. It
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: was a few years before we were born.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Sometime in the eighties. So eighty six, eighty seven, eighty eight,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: eighty three, eighty three.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I believe Friend of the Show for us was
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: born in eighty three. Wow, all right, one more safety
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: definitely gettable, easily forgettable.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Our era.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's a I believe he's a super Bowl champion.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion by virtue of simply being on the team,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: or Super Bowl champion by virtue of actually contributed to it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: He was on a I think he was on a
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: fifty three man roster of a team that won the
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Not Lewis scene, was it Luis scene?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Luis Quasi Dafamenso's first draft pick. Ever, you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: doing well, Lev.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: This is stressful. He was what twenty twenty two?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, ev, I think I kind of
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: nudged you. I would not have gotten Joey Browner, which
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is unfortunate.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: But I do remember seeing the headlines and seeing the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Facebook post, like, oh he had died, and he's kind
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of a recognizable Vikings.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: He's one of the best Vikings really of yeah, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: in history.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: So when you said that, I kind of put the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: pieces together and I got it. But yeah, no, disrespect
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just didn't grow up in that era. I think my
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: parents were still in high school at that point, so
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I was definitely not even a thought at that point.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: All right, guard or center? Which one do you want
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: to go next?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Let's just go down the line and go to guard.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: There's two of them.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, c D Christian Darris, dude, our guard guard. He's
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a tackle yeah, okay, never mind that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay offensive lineman, sure, but specifically guard.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. I have to think about that one a little
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: bit more then our era.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: One of them, absolutely, one of them.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: One of them is a current Viking. One of them
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: is a current Viking. Donovan Jack absolutely twenty what that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: was last year or two years ago? Twenty twenty five?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: All right? Another one is a Hall of famer. This
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: one is right before we.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Were born, right before we were born, hall of.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Famer, maybe arguably the best Viking of all time. It's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: just when you're a guard, it's hard to Yeah, I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: could give it away with a hint.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Chris Doleman and.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: He was a defense Yeah, you and he. I don't
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: know if it's still true as of this day, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: you and this former Vikings guard have at one time
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: shared an occupation.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Oh teacher, Yes, he was a teacher. I feel like
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I know this, and I'm gonna like you do know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick myself, yeah, for not having the name
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: readily available. It's all right, there's only two of them, correct, Yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the way there, Okay, before we were born, right before
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: we were born. Okay, so like late eighties, maybe the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: greatest Viking of all time. That's you could argue that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: It's just hard to really, it's hard to definitively stand
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: on that because he's a guard and he wasn't catching
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: touchdowns or getting sacks.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: You know what this reminds me of. This reminds me
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of the very first brew hop tour where you quizzed
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: me on pretty much the exact same question in the car.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: He may have been an answer, and I think he
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: might have been an answer, And I think I got
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it wrong.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Because it was like Pro football references like top Avs Vikings.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Top Vikings in terms of Avy average value on Pro
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Football Reference. I should know this and I don't. I'm
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: gonna come back. Can I come back to it? Sure?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Can we move on to center? All right? Center?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: There's only one, only one center in the first round
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: into Viking's history. Okay, recent or past, relatively recent, relatively recent?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Does this person have red hair? I don't think so.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I don't even know he'd be referencing. Oh, you're referencing
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Matt Burke.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Matt Burke. He was not a first round pick.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, he did go to Harvard though, like that milk
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: commercial told us when we.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Were kids, that makes him a first round pick in life?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: What does he say? What's that commercial? Like, Matt, where
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: does where does stars come from? Or something like that?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And he goes on this whole Well, if you do
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: this and this and this and writes all on the chalkboard,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: and the kids like, doesn't aren't they in the sky.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: He's like, yes, Garrett Bradbury wasn't a first round pick,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: was he? You're looking at me like he was hearing
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Bradberry was the first round to go with Garrett Bradberry. Okay,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: what year? Uh that would have been? I don't know.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Two rs to teas, I don't know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I think two rs or sorry, yeah, hold on, it
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter, it does it's his name, but.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Garrett, how do you spell your name? Two rs to teas? Both?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: All right, I come on the podcast. Let us know.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Oh he's a bear? No, well he can.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Still he's bear it Bradberry.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe he would look to take a shot of Mallory.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Who knows he might have he's only two and a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: half hours away. Well, I don't know where he is
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: right now. Well, when he's in Chicago, he's only two
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and a half hours Okay, alright, Bradbury was drafted in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, hey, all right, you've done it all except
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: for you have you've put a pin in the other
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: first round guard? Can you get it? Do you need
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a lifeline? Do you need an initials?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I need a clue or something.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I gave you a clue. He was he was
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: he He may be retired from this at this point,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: but he at least was a teacher. I believe, like
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a kindergarten teacher.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I might be wrong on that. That's rough. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: he a very large man.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I think he wore sixty four when I picture him.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: He always a pretty sweet looking tinted visor on his helmet.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Initials R. M.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Randall, McDaniel Randall, McDaniel Evan.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I'm proud of you. I think you did better than
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I thought you would.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: When was he drafted?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: This says ninety or sorry?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Eighty eight? Eighty eight? Okay, all right, that's fair.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the best vikings of all time, some
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: forgettable vikings.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That was stressful, though, I bet, I bet that was hard.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You did good. The pressure was on. The pressure was on,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: but we figured it out and I used my clues
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and we got there. I'm proud of myself.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I'm proud of you too. You should be proud of
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: yourself now if you really want to be proud of yourself,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: since you're the one that graciously does all the editing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: You could put some background music in that, you could
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: put some on screen graphics.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I'm joking.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: We don't really do that, but that would be a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: lot of work we could.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: But here here's the behind the curtain. We record at
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like eight o'clock on Monday night, and I edit at
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: like five thirty am Tuesday morning while I'm drinking my coffee.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: So if you're ever wondering why we don't do more,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that's why I have about an hour to do that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And then when I'm done drinking my coffee, I hit
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: publish on the episode and I go upstairs, take a shower,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and go to work. So I'm really glad you said shower.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: But as the person that did the editing, what would
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you think I would have said.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Go upstairs, take us something. I don't know, but I
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: did the editing last week and I used Riverside, which
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: made it a lot easier, and it was still like heaven,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: your workflow, that's a process.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: You do a really good job.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: You should be should be commended for that.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna play a game with you. Now.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: We're gonna switch gears. I have a piece of paper
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and a pen over there for you. Oh man, we're
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: gonna play goat great good meh, I don't think it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: coming up on this. You can't see it. That's all right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna list.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: If we thought about it, we could have done like
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: another camera.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we could have that's okay. Oh well, I can
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I can put this up. I can put this up
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: on the screen. We'll figure that out. So you have
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a grid. It's basically a nine by nine with one
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: extra grid, one extra square on the top. So ten total,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you get one goat. So I'm gonna list ten players,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: ten active players in the league right now at a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: specific position we know. Did you tell me the position yet?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I will, I'm gonna I wanted to make sure I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: didn't miss out on you didn't miss that yet. I'm
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: gonna give you ten active players, and you have to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: rank them. Goat great good me. You get one goat,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you get three of all the others. So three greats,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: three goods, three mesk. So you have ten boxes to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: fill in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to give these players to you in
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a random order, which means you have to rank them
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: blindly and if you pick a goat early, you're stuck
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: with it, or if you wait till the end, you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: stuck with whoever is left all right for the goat.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So everybody's a meth Well, I'm curious to see how
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: how you play the game.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: You could take a picture of this as I go,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: like each like one blank and then each name. I right,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: just take another picture. It would add some more to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: your workflow, but it's definitely possible.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a blank picture, all right, So all right,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you ready, we're going. We're going current NFL tight ends. Okay,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the first tight end that you be so biased.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: There's a name on here that you're gonna put on
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: here on purpose that I'm gonna put like great, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get ripped apart for it. Anyways, keep going.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, oh Man, Kyle Pitts Atlanta Falcons. Wow, he's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a lot lower than I thought you would go.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I put him as a me.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: All right, let's take a picture of that. Okay, next
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: he's a meh huh's me David and Joku current current
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: current David and Joku. These are all like based on
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: this last season. He's going good to everybody. He's going good.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Can you help me with the spelling? N J? Okay,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you I believe, all right. So we've already got one
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: meh and one good? All right. Next up, I'm a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: very secret list t J. Hopkinson. I put this one
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in early on purpose because I wanted to see where
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you put him.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Well, people are going to disagree with me, and I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: okay with that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, he's good or he's great. He's not good, he's great.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: This is great, more than good. Also, it looks like
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I wrote t O. Hawkinson Terrell Owens.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I should have just did logo. I should have just
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: drawn a picture of the Vikings logo. That's terrible. Don't
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: judge me on my handwriting, or do comment tell me
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: how bad it is.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm interested that you put him there
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: because we've talked about him on this show.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not secret about how much I am.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You like him, and I'm a little bit ready to
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: move on from them. That's fine. I understand that at
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: this point. Okay, Uh, Isaiah likely he's one that I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: don't know a whole lot about. I don't know how
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to spell Isaiah. I s a I ah ah yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Isaiah likely as it's spelled.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the meme where somebody will post like, oh,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: how many beers are you going to have this this weekend?
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And the next picture is just a picture of the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: back of likes Jersey. When he wore number eighty for
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the Ravens, it just says likely eighty, likely likely eighty.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Now I think he wears like six or eight for
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the Giants.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: But still, well, I'm gonna add to my beer total
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: here while I do that. George Kittle, mister skittles himself.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Man, he's pretty good.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I think I missed the picture for Isaiah. Like, that's okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: all right, So we've got Kittle in the great category,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: we have Isaiah likely in the good category. You have
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts down in Mah. Yeah, you haven't picked a
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: goat yet.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: No, that's gonna that's gonna get me. You're gonna the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: goat is gonna be the last one you're gonna put Anyways.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews current current Mark Andrews like as of this
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: last season, he's going good, folks, He's going good. Okay,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: he's got to pour another beer because he's got to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: contemplate all of life's decisions here. I'm listening. This is
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: where the game gets tough, guys. All right, yeah, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: think for the most part, I agree with you so far.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I may I know the Hockinson pick is I might
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: have moved.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Him down here. That's fine, I think, And I don't
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: know who I would trade him with. I might have
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: moved one of these down here. Okay, maybe Mark Andrews
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: down here. And because he's a little older, but he's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: got that equity. I don't know. Okay. Four to go
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: rock Bowers?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh wow, he picked his go all right,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Brock Bowers. He might be the best tight end in
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the league right now. He was on a terrible Raiders
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: team last year, but I still think he's probably one
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: of the better Raiders there are and definitely one of
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the best tight ends in the league right now.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So the goat Rock Powers.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I think I'm in a good spot. I still have
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: one great position left and a couple of mez But
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: that's all right, that's all right, all right?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Uh, Dallas Goddard, where you gonna put Dallas? Is he
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: gonna go mah or great? This is tough? Oh he's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: going mah meh g O E D E R T.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: All right, I didn't Madge, just a strategic Had you
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: said his name first, I probably would have at least
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: put him in good. But that's that's just the way
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: things are falling.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: It's the way the cookie crumbles. Okay, you ready for
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: this one?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You know what hold on? You just said that line
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: and it's a line from a movie. And the character
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: who says that line. His name in the movie is Evan.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Is that an anchorman? Is that what you reference? No,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it's Bruce al Mighty, Bruce Almighty.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And then Evan Almighty is a sequel to that. Nobody cares,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: but I just thought that was funny.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: So that's the way the cookie crumbles. Travis Kelsey Man, Well,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: he's not me. He's definitely not me. And had you
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: said him before brock Bauers, I still would not have
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: put Kelsey in. Goat is really interested.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: He's really good and has probably recently held the title
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of best tight in the league. But now I think
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: it's more of a situation and all that, so definitely
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: in the great category.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, you have to put this last one
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: in the meh category, And I think it's interesting and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: picture that one Oh yeah, I wonder if maybe you
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: who might want to change it after you're done. Now
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: though I know Trey.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: McBride, so I'm gonna get ripped apart because there are
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: people that will say Trey McBride and TJ. Hockinson will
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: should have been switched.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: And I think I would maybe agree with them for
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the most.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Part, probably right, it's probably accurate. He's definitely not meh.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: But that's probably my only.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Regret of the whole uh. And to only regret somebody
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: in the mech category isn't bad, Like you didn't get
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: stuck with a bad goat. No, I'm really glad that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: great category is pretty good for them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: So my goat to recap goat is Brock Bowers. I
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: could only have one goat in the great category is
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelce, George Kittle, and TJ. Hockinson. And I've said
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: it a thousand times on this podcast. I know I'm
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: solely biased on TJ. Hockinson, but I still think he's good.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I stay by him being in great. In the good category,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I've got David and Joku, who I believe is still
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a brown.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I might be wrong on that, I think, And then
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Likely who is a giant, and then Mark Andrews,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: who I also believe is still a raven. And then
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: in the meh category, I've got Kyle Pitts who, as
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: far as like potential, he's got out potential, but he
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: just has never done anything with it.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Well, he hasn't really had a quarterback to do anything.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, or just a good team at all. So Kyle
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Pitts in meh, along with Dallas Goddard and Trey McBride.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm wrong in putting Trey McBride in meh, but
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: that's just the way the cookie crumbled.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe I would if I had all of the information beforehand. Yeah,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just how it is, and I'll
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: stand by it. Right, it's a good game, mav I
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: liked it.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: The good is we are not in charge. We don't
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: rank players other than just for entertainment purposes on the podcast,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and we don't draft players other than for the sake
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: of just funsies on the episode. But we can sit
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: here and speculate. We can sit here and look back
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and give our own opinions, and that's what we're gonna do. Yeah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: we're gonna look back at the last five NFL drafts
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: through Dustin Baker's article on Vikings Territory dot Com.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Which should be linked below, by the way, and yes
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: we will link it below.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Dustin has ranked the last five drafts, and maybe we
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: can maybe you can recap these drafts and just kind
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: of quickly run us through them all and how he
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: ranked them, and then we could maybe use that as
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: some fodder for discussion. All right, So should I just
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: give the rankings off the bat.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Let's just do it and then we can dive deeper.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: So for Dustin Baker, which may not be our agreeing opinion,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: but for Dustin Baker, his his worst draft of the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: last five is twenty twenty two, which was Quasy Duffhine
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Mensa's first draft months after he was hired as the GM.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Next up, the next worst draft is the most recent
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: recent one, twenty twenty five, which was Quaysey's last year
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: as the Vikings GM drafting. The third best draft of
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the last five is twenty twenty three, which is which
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: was Kevin O'Connell's first draft after having a full season.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: So I think O'Connell was a part of the team
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: during Quasy's first draft, obviously, I think yeah, But this
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: was the first one after Kevin O'Connell had coached for
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: a full season thirteen to four record, So twenty twenty three.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: The second best draft, according to Dustin of the last
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: five years is twenty twenty four, which is interesting because
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: that's the JJ McCarthy draft, the one where the Vikings
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: had two first round picks, made a lot of interesting moves,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: and it looks like that's also the draft that has
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the highest percentage of current the highest percentage of players
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that are still with the team. And then, according to Dustin,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the Vikings best draft of the last five which is
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: also the second worst when you look at percentage of
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: players still with the team, is twenty twenty one, which
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: was Rick Spielman's final draft as the GM of the
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. So it's the final Rick Spielman Mike zimmer
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Era draft. Evan real quick, Well, what do we want
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: to do? Do we want to analyze each draft and
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: then kind of give our rankings or do we want
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: to give our rankings?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: First? Well, I just want to disagree first of all.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: All right, I like Dustin a lot, and I appreciate
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: his perspective on things. I think he's got this one
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit backwards, but I'm assuming, without having really
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: read the article in depth, there's some justification here as
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to why twenty twenty one is the best. And I'll
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: admit I haven't really read the article, so maybe there's
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: some good justification there. But you said it a second ago.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: The only player on the roster currently from that twenty
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: twenty one draft as Christian Deresa. Everyone else is gone,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and I could see Dustin saying, well, yeah, most of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: those players are gone, but a lot of those players
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: played well when they were with the Vikings, and then
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the Vikings were able to get good compensation, whether that
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: was draft picks or whatever, when those those drafted players
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: left the organization. I can only think of three players
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: that maybe got the Vikings good a good return on
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: their investment, so to speak.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Who are those players? And then I'll tell you if
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: those are the same three that Dustin mentions in his article.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: There were three he mentioned, Okay, I would say Pat Jones, okay,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: can Na Wongu and Cam bind them. Oh, those are
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the three that I would expect to get the most return.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking as far as benefiting the team after
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: they left.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Correct, like they got the Vikings received draft picks, they
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: received whatever.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I misheard you. I thought you were saying the three
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: players of that draft that were the best for the Vikings.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: No, okay, No, Obviously Christian Darrisaw has been the best player. Yeah,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and he's still with the team. Cam Bindam is probably second,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I would expect in terms of like best player that
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: played for the Vikings.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I agree, although he didn't. The Vikings didn't gain anything
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: by him leaving. They didn't trade him away. They he
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: just signed away.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: He just walked away.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he factored into comp picks, but none of
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that is coming top of mind. It's not like they
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: traded him away for a draft pick or.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Anything like that.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: He just left in free agents.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Anyways. I just I kind of have a bone to
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: pick with the twenty one draft as being the best
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: when only Christian Darrisaw has left and it doesn't seem
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: like the other players really benefited the team in really
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: any meaningful ways.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can agree with you, but I think
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: maybe so we won't do this for every every year,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: but these are dusts and sots on twenty twenty one.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: He notes that it's the only one on this list
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: that was not a quasy draft, and he does say
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: it's not controversial to say that it's the best draft
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: of the group. He says, it's not even close. But
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: that's Dustin's opinion, and we usually fully agree with his opinion,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and it's okay to have different thoughts because I agree
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: with you two now, he does say the brownie points
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: for Dustin on this draft twenty twenty one is that
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Rick Pielman immediately got two bona fide starters right out
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: of the draft, and that was Christian Darsaw, who is
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: still when healthy, an elite undisputed starter for the Vikings,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and cam Binam who is a starter and played very
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: well for the Vikings for a few years, but the
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: only reason he's not a Viking right now is because
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: he was just too expensive for the Vikings to pony
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: up for that one position, you know, last year. So
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: he's starting for the Colts right now and doing well.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Dustin also mentions Pat Jones was decent. I think he
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: got a decent contract with Carolina. He might be with
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: another team now, but he was decent. I remember Pat Jones,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: he kind of took a while to warm up, but
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: then once he did, he had a pretty good final
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: season with the Vikings. I wanted them to resign him,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: but understand that he didn't. But Dustin, to his credit
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: and you might appreciate this as well, he does kind
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: of mention. Outside of Pat Jones, Cam Bynen and Christian Darrisaw,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: the rest of the draft was pretty awful. Like some
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: of the players are, they've been out of the league
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: for a while. None of them else really did anything
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: too good. Just to recap really quick, it was Christian Darrisaw, quarterback,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Kellen Mond, linebacker, Chas Sarratt lineman, offensive lineman Wyatt Davis, edge,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Pat Jones, running back but really kick returner kna and
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Wong Wu, which I've never been able to confidently say
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: his name, and then quarterback Cambine Them, safety cambine Them,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Genarius Robin Robinson, wide receiver Emir Smith Marsette who had
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: an up and down career with the Vikings. I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: he was in net positive but not long enough. Tight
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: end Zach Davis, and then defensive lineman Jalen Twyman in
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: round six. So a lot of picks really only three
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: guys that were three four guys that were worth much.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: In the NFL.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Dustin says, that was the best draft.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And there are some again, there are some players, some
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: fringe players on that draft that I thought did okay,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Like Emir Smith Marsette. We watched him rip the ball
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: out of some Bear players and you're close, man, You're close.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Was it a Mere Smith was or was it a
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Mere Abdullah?
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: So Amir Smith Marsette at the time, what you're thinking
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: of was a Bear.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: He caught a pass.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And then Cam Danceler Junior came and ripped the ball
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: out of Smith.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Mark Amir was Amir was the victim.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that was.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: After his Vikings time, okay, But I still felt like
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: he had a lot of potential. When he was with
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the Vikings. He was mostly a kick returner.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did pretty well, and Iowa guy. I was very
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: excited when the Bikings drafted him.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Pat Jones looked good, maybe the best defensive player in
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: that draft outside of Cam by them, Cam buying them
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: obviously the front runner there and Kenna and na Wangu.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: He was a really good kick return like he was.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: On like a corderio Patterson trajectory, and I think he's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: still doing well. I think the Jets just.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Re signed him in free agency super fast. Kellen Mond,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you gotta feel bad for him because he was kind
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: of the ugly step child caught between coach and GM. Yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Spielman wanted him and uh like Zimmer, Mike Zimmer did
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: not want him, and he was just kind of in
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Zimmer's doghouse the whole time.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Kellen Mond was like the the physical embodiment of the
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: dissent between Spielman and Zimmer, Like it's like they Zimmer
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: and Spielman had a bunch of problems and obviously it
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: was never gonna end well at the point that this
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: draft happened, but kellen Mond seemed to be like the final,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like final straw to break the camel's back, like it
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: was just that that was it. And then the one
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: reporter like, why aren't you putting kellen Man in the
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: games at all? Like just to see what he's got,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: and Zimmer's like, I see him in practice, Like I say,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I've seen everything I want. So, yeah, it's a really
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: tough draft. But also when you've had a GM that
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: just got fired mostly because of his drafting in the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: last four years. It's not a surprise to see the
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: best ranked so far by according to Dustin Baker draft
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: be the one that wasn't from that GM.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: It it was interesting. We'll just leave it at that.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: What would you what would you say is the best one? Well,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, if so, you've color coded things, and if
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we take out let's take out twenty one and twenty two,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and let's just take so.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: We're taking out Spielman's final draft.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: And first, so we just have Quacy's last three drafts.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: If that, if that were the pick, then it's kind
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: of a toss up. And then I think I would
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: kind of maybe agree with his his listing with Dustin's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: list here that the twenty four draft is the best
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Dallas Turner, Kyrie Jackson, rest In Peace, Walter Rouse,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Well Record, Michael Jurggens, and LDR Like, okay, well, that
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem that bad. The only player on that list
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: that isn't currently with the team passed away, so you
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: gotta feel good about that.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure, yes, the situations are different for
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: each player and the current abilities are different for each player,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: but again, outside of Kyrie Jackson. Everyone from that draft
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: has started at least a game.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's entered last season as QB one Dallas Turner.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Most of his starts have come in injury relief of
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Grenard and or oh Man van Ginkel, but he seems
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to be blossoming into a starter in the league. Walter
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Rouse has been in the lineup a little bit out
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: of necessity because of injuries. He's an aligneman offensive lineman
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Will reikerd might be the best kicker in the league,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: and if not the best, one of the best. He
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: currently holds the longest the record for the longest cake
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: in Vikings history at sixty two yards, which is pretty sweet.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Michael Jurgen's similar situation between him and Walter Rouse as
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman getting some playing time out of necessity due
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: to injury, and then Levi Drake Rodriguez has really blossomed
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: into being better than a round seven picks should be.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that one, I would argue right now is
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: the best draft. I agree with you. I think the
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: only thing that is keeping it from being the best
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: in a lot of people's eyes are the current development
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: status of JJ McCarthy.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: And that's a big talker, right, and that's a big
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. How does that first round overall
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: pick developing? How does he materialize? Does he turn out
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to be what we thought he would be in so far?
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: He hasn't. He was injured his entire rookie year, which
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: we've already discussed when I failed in like the very
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: first comment of my my trivia.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Nah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Sorry, but even when he was healthy and he played,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: he struggled and it was it was difficult. But there's
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: still potential there and they're at they're bringing in support
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: to help him, which I think is positive. But honestly,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I would say the twenty twenty four draft is maybe
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the best draft for.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I will say for us. And another argument against the draft,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: which I agree, Quacy's best draft was twenty twenty four.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: It could develop into being twenty twenty five depending on
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: how these players turn out, But twenty twenty four, us
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: things sits right now, was Quacy's best draft. But it
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: is tough when you know two years, almost two years
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: away from that draft, the two first round picks that
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: you had in that draft don't currently sit as undisputed
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: starters on the team. Sure, Jji McCarthy could still end
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: up being the QB of the future for the Vikings.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean, I don't know.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: He could beat out Kyler Murray for the job. But
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: you can't sit here right now and definitively say JJ
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: McCarthy is QB one for the Vikings.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would say Dallas Turner has
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: maybe a better shot of being that bona fide starter
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: than JJ McCarthy does.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also if Dallas Turner has two pro bowlers,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: all pros, sitting in front of him, correct, which could change.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I mean Jonathan Gernard any day now could be traded
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: away or he could spend the next ten years as
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: a Viking, and like that's how.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's such a weird situation for Dallas Turner,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: But I think he's in a good spot where he's like,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I've got a basically a number three spot on a
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: NFL roster. I've got a defensive coordinator who likes me
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: and believes in me and is willing to give me
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: the reps. And I've proven that right Like he's he's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: gone out and proven it, and he's he's just a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: young pup. He's I don't know how old.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Dallas turned Looking it up now, so JJ McCarthy and
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Dallas Turner are both twenty three. Looks like so Jj
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: McCarthy was born January twentieth, two thousand and three. Dallas
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Turner was born February second, so twelve days, thirteen days
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: away from each other. They're two weeks away from each
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: other first round picks, and both of them. There's probably
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: gonna be first round picks in the twenty twenty six
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: draft or older than both of these guys, And that's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: just how it works. I feel like the Vikings throughout
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: most of our fanhood have shown that they value younger
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: players in the draft, especially in the first round. So yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody likes to point out who is it
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: for the Rams Jared Verse? So remember Dallas Turner is
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: twenty three years old. Jared Verse, who plays Dallas Turner's position,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: He's two and a half years older at twenty five.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: But the way the months work out, that's a lot
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: of time, especially when you're talking early twenties for an
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: NFL player. So again, there's probably gonna be guys draft
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: in the first round that are closer to Jared versus
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: age than Dallas Turner's age. The Vikings still have a
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: lot of time to get some development out of McCarthy
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: and Dallas Turner.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think in terms of development and in
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: terms of future potential, Dustin has his list a little
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: bit off and and Dustin very well could be making
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: his list from what have we seen so far from
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: these players? How have they materialized? We're not looking ahead,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: We're just looking at what's on paper. Christian Darisa pretty
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: darn good, great Viking, will go down as a top
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Viking left tackle. But I even saw something today that said, man,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you've got to be concerned a little bit about his
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: durability and his ability to make it through a full season.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: He really hasn't well.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that injury was that injury. It wasn't just like
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: a sprain angel that keeps popping.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not I'm not discounting that at all.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: But you've gotta you've got to wonder, right like, will
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: that continue to be this recurring issue with him or
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: his kind of a one and done. He's stronger now,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: and now he's had a full offseason to work through it,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and he's going to return back to form, right Like,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: that's a big question. I think we have to ask
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: ourselves as vikings. I think Dustin puts a lot of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: weight on Christian Deisa in that argument that the twenty
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: twenty one draft is the best draft in the last
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: five years, and I would disagree. I think it starts
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: with the twenty four draft. Then I think you go
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to the twenty five draft, then I think the twenty
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: three draft after that. And I'm not just looking at
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: longevity of players, but I'm also looking at the contribution
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: of players. Jordan Addison, Yeah, he's been a big contributor
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: as this wide receiver to position, but at what expense. Well,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: he's been in trouble quite a bit off the field,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: and he had to sit out for what two or
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: three games at the beginning of this.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Last officially three games, and then there was that weird
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: first quarter.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Or so first in the second game of the europe trip.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers game, And those are directly as a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: result of decisions he made.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I would take the performance of Donovan Jackson,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: ty Felton, Tyreon, Ingraham Jenkins, and Gavin Bartholomew over Jordan
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Addison and Jay Ward. Oh, that's tough.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Man, I mean because I would take that though. It's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: not the craziest thing you've ever said. But you read
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: four names off and really only one of them has
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: done anything. So you're talking twenty twenty five draft was
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson, ty Felton Jr. Ingram Dawkins, Kobe King, who's
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: a linebacker, Gavin Bartholomew. So if I'm not mistaken, Gavin Bartholomew,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: who's a six round pick. He didn't play at all
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. He didn't play at all in
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: at last season. Please correct me if I'm wrong. He
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: entered the season on the pup list. I'm pretty sure
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: like he he was either drafted with some kind of
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: an injury like a back injury or something, or he
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: got it in OTAs or something.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: He didn't play, that's correct.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Kobe King got cut because they needed a roster spot
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle of the season, and then he
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: was pretty quickly picked up. I think the Vikings probably
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: wanted to keep him on either practice squad or figure
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: out their roster situation and then bring him back, but
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: they either way, he was cut. Tyrian and Ingram Dawkins,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I think, and you might.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Be able to look this up too.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I think he had a sort a couple of flashes.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: He played a decent amount.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: But he plays the same position as Jonathan Gernard Dallas Turner.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: He's a depth guya, he's a depth guy. But there's value.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: There, ty Felton, I do want you to look this up.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: He had like two catches all year, like he didn't do.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Anything, but he was a he was a returner.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think it even so, I don't he might
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: have had one or two returns, like you're gonna look
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: it up, and I'm happy to be wrong. But I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: don't think he had much SATs at all, and that's.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Just out of he played tunity. He played in all
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: seventeen games.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, he might have been a gunner too, like he
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: he didn't have any really stat sheet.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: He had seven returns. Okay, uh kick returns for one
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy eight yards.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: All right, that's more than I thought he had. Third
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: round pick though, Like those are borderline starter expectations.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he played. He played in every game. He
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: played five percent of the offensive snaps how many how
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: many catches and sixty six percent of the special team
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: so he's a special teamer.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: How many what catches? Catches? Offensive catches? Three targets? Three catches,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: okay for twenty five yards.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: So you're talking a third rounder at wide receiver. You
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: want a little bit more than three catches now, And
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: that's on a team that I mean they traded for
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Adam Thielen and that guy quit on the team because
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: he wasn't getting playing time. You're talking about a team
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: that their wide receiver two missed three and a half
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: games just because of you know, decisions he made. So
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: there could have been opportunities. Hopefully, I'm not saying ty
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Felton is worthless and he's already written down as a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: round three bust and he'll never be anything because the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Vikings didn't do much in free agency or so far
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: in the offseason. Maybe they'll do something in the draft,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: but the wide receiver position, he might be listed as
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: wide receiver three as things sit right now. But Donovan Jackson,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: he I think he missed four games due to his
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: wrist injury.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Hands injury, something like that.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: But outside of that, he started every game and he
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: played I would say extremely well. And everything we know
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: about him is he should be pretty good for a while,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: but that would put twenty twenty five pretty low for me.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: As things sit right now.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I still think it's kind of a toss up because
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: you have in twenty three, you have two guys that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: are still with the team, Addison and jay Ward. Jay
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Ward isn't round four safety who and he might he might.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like didn't do a whole lot either. Well
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: He kind of I think he made Theo Jackson lose
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: his job. I think jay Ward got some good playing time,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: maybe even as a corner back too. I think he's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: got a bright future, definitely some more opportunities, although he
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: hasn't done a whole ton yet, but as a I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: mean fourth round gadget safety, you know, I think he's
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: playing up to standards at least.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I still think there's slightly more value in the twenty
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: five draft class.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: It's marginal right potential for sure. I Felton could go
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: down as a thousand yard receiver like he definitely could.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: But I mean, if we're talking stat sheet purely, Jordan
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Addison is the only one that's really contributed to the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: stat sheet in terms of the twenty twenty three draft
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: that's still on the team, and you've got a few
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: contributors Jackson Felton and Ingram Dawkins that at least kind
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: of contributed, right, And sure the Jordan Addison contributions might
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: outweigh those other contributions, but then you have to you
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: have to balance that out with these off the field
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: problems that Jordan Addison continues to have, and you kind
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: of have to count him as a wild card, like, well, yeah,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: he's a great offensive player, and he can fill in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson when he's injured, and he can play
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: that wide receiver two role really really well when Jefferson
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: is in the game, and he can pull the attention
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: off of Jefferson and open him up, or he can
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: be wide open himself and pull in those receptions. However,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: you never know if he's going to be available at
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: this point, and that's still a problem, right, Like it's
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: not like, no, he had that one thing and it's
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: okay now, it's not that. It's now he's had three
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: things now, and it's just every year there's been something.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: He's had three things now and it's just like, well,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: can we count on you or can we not you? Know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and so to me, that bumps that twenty twenty five
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: class just slightly above that twenty three class for me.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: So I would say twenty four, the twenty four draft class,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: then the twenty five draft class, then the twenty three
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: draft class, and then I don't know, it's kind of
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: a toss up between the twenty one and twenty two
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: draft class.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I I'm with you, but I think if we really
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: sat down and we were honest with everything.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty two would probably be the worst.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Twenty there's I mean, let's hear you're gonna love this
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: of there's what was the first three that you said,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty three, twenty five yep, and then twenty.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: One, twenty four to twenty five, then twenty three okay, okay,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: and then twenty one and then fifty feet a.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Crap, that's a good money ball, and then twenty two.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Here's rich teams, there's pour teams, and then there's fifty
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: feet of crap, and.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Then there's that twenty twenty two might be the worst
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: draft of all time. I mean, not even just Vikings
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: worst draft of the last five years, just any draft.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: The worst draft of all time started off with Quacy
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: trading away his first ever first round pick to the Lions,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: a div rival, so that they could pick up Jamison
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Williams and not get much in return. He went down
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: from what was it twelve down to like thirty two,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: and I think they picked up thirty four in you know,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: in that deal, so they had thirty two and thirty four,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: but still out of that they got Lewis Scene and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Andrew Booth. Lewis Scene is definitely one of the worst
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: draft picks the Vikings have ever had. In the first round.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Andrew Booth couldn't do anything with the Vikings or the Cowboys.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: He's garbage ed Ingram, who kind of flashed a little
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: bit after he left the Vikings with the Texans, but
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: apparently if you dive deep into his like actual Pro
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Football Focus scores and stuff, it was okay, not great,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: but okay. Brian Asimoah linebacker, he just it felt like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: he had a lot of potential and then just kept
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: getting his job done taken away. Caleb Evans got cut
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: after a while, but I think he's still bouncing around
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: the league. Assese O temmwo. Obviously I don't know how
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: to pronounce his name. Minnesota kid I don't think he's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: in the league at all. Ty Chandler never could take
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: any grasp of all the opportunities he got to be
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: in RB one or RB two.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: He's with the Saints now.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Vederian Lowe was traded away after a little bit. I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: think he was with the Patriots for a minute. I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: don't know where he is now. Jalen Naylor six round pick,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: the best pick of the whole draft. Just got thirty
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: something million dollars over two or three years with the Raiders.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Definitely the best pick of the whole draft, but still
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: not like a diamond in the rough. Just was a
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: decent six round pick. And then Nick Muse I think
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: is the only Nick Mws and Lewis scene I think
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: are the only Super Bowl champions out of the whole group.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Mws with the Eagles a couple of years ago. Nick
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Mue was probably the second best pick out of the
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: whole draft. But yeah, this draft was terrible. It set
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: the Vikings team back many years. It was the first
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: nail in the coffin of Quacy being fired, which was
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: crazy because it was like the first thing Caracy did
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: as a GM. Just tough and not to completely ramble
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: on and on and on and on. But I think
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: if you go back to last week's episode of The
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  Speaker 2: skool Hoop, something Dustin said about the current state of
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings roster is something that happens to a team
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  Speaker 2: when you can't draft as your team ends up being
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  Speaker 2: a very old team, statistically old team, because if you
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  Speaker 2: can't fill holes through the draft, you have to fill
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  Speaker 2: those holes through free agency. So rather than getting a
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  Speaker 2: twenty two year old defensive end, you have to sign
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  Speaker 2: van Ginkel and Grenard, and those guys are older than rookies.
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  Speaker 2: So while they're really good, they're they're old. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just you can't keep a team going sustainably if you
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  Speaker 2: can't draft well. Twenty twenty two was the main reason,
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  Speaker 2: other than the quarterback position, that Quasi got fired, and
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately you could never just come back from that. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why the future looks good now for the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: with a guy that's been with the team forever in
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  Speaker 2: the Brisoness Rob Rizinski copyright Brevin ban.
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  Speaker 1: So really quick, because we're running out of time here.
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  Speaker 1: What is your prediction for the twenty twenty sixth draft?
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  Speaker 1: Where does it fall on this list? Either Dustin's list
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  Speaker 1: or our list or some combination of all that, because
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of gone we've kind of like just gone
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  Speaker 1: all over the place, sure, kind of just taking it
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  Speaker 1: all and just throwing it on the wall, seeing what
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  Speaker 1: sticks where. Do you think the twenty sixth draft ends up?
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  Speaker 1: Just like prediction, we don't know what's gonna happen. We're
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  Speaker 1: just we're just guessing at this point.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm looking up. The Vikings have number eighteen
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  Speaker 2: in the first round. They've got a second round pick,
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  Speaker 2: two third round picks, a fourth round pick, sorry, not
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  Speaker 2: a fourth round, two third round picks, a fifth round,
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  Speaker 2: a sixth round, and then three sevenths the way things
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  Speaker 2: sit right now April thirteenth, before the draft, so they
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  Speaker 2: have four picks in the top one hundred, which is
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  Speaker 2: pretty decent. You gotta think statistically they should get one
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  Speaker 2: starter out of that like that, that should be bare
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  Speaker 2: minimum one two starters and then some some depth at least,
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  Speaker 2: I think as long as we can. It'll be tough
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  Speaker 2: because we're gonna have immediately, you know, then the night
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  Speaker 2: of the first round come away and the Vikings are
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  Speaker 2: gonna draft Dylan Thieneman or you know, some other some
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  Speaker 2: other player, and we're immediately going to try to grade
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  Speaker 2: it right there, and ESPN is gonna come out with
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  Speaker 2: their like, oh, this team got the best grade from
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  Speaker 2: the first round, and it's all garbage because nobody knows
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  Speaker 2: what this draft is gonna actually turn out. They say,
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  Speaker 2: what three years before you can really evaluate a draft.
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  Speaker 2: My hope at the end of this draft is that
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  Speaker 2: we can compare it to twenty twenty two and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably better than that. I think as long as
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  Speaker 2: we can walk away from the draft this year two
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  Speaker 2: three weeks from now, when they've made the final pick
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  Speaker 2: and you know, signed all the undrafted free agents, as
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  Speaker 2: long as we can walk away from that evaluate it
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  Speaker 2: and look and compare it to twenty twenty two and say,
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  Speaker 2: all right, at least their first round pick was better
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  Speaker 2: than Lewis Sen probably at least, you know, at least
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  Speaker 2: this could help set up the team better than twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two did. It's all a moot point because we
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  Speaker 2: won't know for a few years. But that's my hope
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  Speaker 2: is that we can compare it and feel better about it.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a fair point. Can I can I just
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  Speaker 1: forsake of argument. Yeah, bring up one more point. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting really long in the tooth here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it. It's okay. So if you want to
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  Speaker 1: take the three year rule as as the gospel standard,
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  Speaker 1: that would mean that the twenty twenty three draft would
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  Speaker 1: be like we would see the proof in the pudding.
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  Speaker 2: That's the most someone that we could fairly evaluate.
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  Speaker 1: And of the twenty twenty three draft, who passes the
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  Speaker 1: three year test?
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  Speaker 2: Who of those players? Yeah, so we're talking Jordan Addison,
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  Speaker 2: Makai Blackman, Jay Ward, Jacquelin Roy, Jaren Hall, Dwayne McBride.
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  Speaker 2: The only ones still with the team are Jordan Addison
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  Speaker 2: and Jay Ward. I think the only ones other than
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  Speaker 2: those two still in the league are m Mackay Blackman
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  Speaker 2: and Jacquelin Roy. I don't know if Jaren Hall is
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  Speaker 2: still in the league. That's worth googling really quick. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's currently on a team. I think
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  Speaker 2: it looks like he he was with the Birmingham Stallions
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  Speaker 2: of the United Football League and then got cut from
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  Speaker 2: them in January, So I don't think he's currently on
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  Speaker 2: a team. Sure, we're talking and even Jacquelin Roy I
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  Speaker 2: thought he was with the Patriots. I might be wrong,
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  Speaker 2: but you're talking up to four players out of six
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  Speaker 2: that are still in the league at all. Jordan Addison,
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  Speaker 2: he's a borderline pro bowler and the only thing that
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  Speaker 2: would keep him from having a long and successful career
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  Speaker 2: in the league is himself. But I mean, he could
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  Speaker 2: be fine for the next twenty years and never do
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  Speaker 2: anything wrong, or he could pull a Henry Ruggs and
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  Speaker 2: accidentally kill somebody, you know, because of his decisions. I
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  Speaker 2: still think he's an A. I'd give him that pick.
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  Speaker 2: An a Makai Blackman didn't work out for the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of picks I think with the Colts
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  Speaker 2: last year for a second round sorry third round pick.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't work out for the Vikings. So that's all
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  Speaker 2: we needed to know. Jay Ward, it's still a toss up,
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  Speaker 2: and I think three years later you should know more
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  Speaker 2: than still a toss up.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'd give this draft like a
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  Speaker 1: C maybe. So what's interesting to me is where we
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  Speaker 1: will be a year from now, because it seems like
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four draft was maybe a lot better,
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  Speaker 1: and Dustin even ranked it better than the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: three draft. And you have players like JJ McCarthy, Dallas Turner,
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  Speaker 1: Will REIKERD, Levi Drake Rodriguez, all of whom have been
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  Speaker 1: significant contributors to the Vikings team in the last year
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  Speaker 1: or two, and like Will REIKERD and LDR go back
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  Speaker 1: two years now, like it's not just this one year
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  Speaker 1: flash in the pan. It's no, they have like consistent
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  Speaker 1: experience and they've started some games. Dallas Turner kind of
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  Speaker 1: flashed a little bit as a rookie and then it
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  Speaker 1: really kind of came on last year in his sophomore season.
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  Speaker 1: You never know what he's gonna do. This year, he
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  Speaker 1: could really turn it on and he could become that
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  Speaker 1: true edge rush the Vikings need. He showed that he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of this like bloodthirsty this Yeah, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how to describe him, Like he's a dog on the outside.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to come after, he wants to come after
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback, and so I don't know. I think a
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  Speaker 1: year from now we might be having an interesting conversation
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  Speaker 1: about the twenty four draft class, which was squarely in
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  Speaker 1: Causey's realm, right, and we might look back and say, well,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as we thought it was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just playing Devil's advocate here. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: claim to know everything about all these players, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I think it'll be interesting to see where
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  Speaker 1: we're at in a couple of years, and to see
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  Speaker 1: if those guys in the twenty four draft and even
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: the twenty five draft for that matter, past the three
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  Speaker 1: year test.
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