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Fictional Women Around the World: Hera Syndulla · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I never told you production of Iheartradiu. And welcome to
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  Speaker 1: another sub sub sub whatever sub segment fictional women around
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  Speaker 1: the world. This one is gonna be shorter, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about why in a second, Oh dear,
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  Speaker 1: But we are in like a pretty big nerd time
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  Speaker 1: for me because Dragon CON's coming up, my birthday's coming up,
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  Speaker 1: which means I let myself induld in all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: nerdy stuff, which means Star Wars and not as sponsor
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  Speaker 1: of the show. But Ahsoka is coming out August twenty
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  Speaker 1: third the show, and so I wanted to do an
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  Speaker 1: episode on Harris and Doula. Now, I okay, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's gonna any spoilers because I and not just me,
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  Speaker 1: think that this show is going to blow up a
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  Speaker 1: lot of cannon. So I don't even want to go
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  Speaker 1: into it because it's probably not going to be is
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  Speaker 1: Hammah from the One Rebels, Okay, yeah, yeah, I know her,
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  Speaker 1: okay yeah, And yeah she's gonna be in Ahsoka. I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what happens in there, obviously, so I
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  Speaker 1: can't spoil that for you. I guess Rebels is recent ish,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like the time is passed. That passed,
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  Speaker 1: isn't I think it's like twenty seventeen. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: don't boy, It could be any time now. I watched
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  Speaker 1: it during the pandemic, so.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it after.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I am not going to go to end depth,
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  Speaker 1: but if you've seen Rebels, there is something they introduced
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  Speaker 1: in their called the World between Worlds, which kind of
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  Speaker 1: breaks everything. I loved it. It was beautiful, but it
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  Speaker 1: means that essentially, it's like the multiverse of Star Wars.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you can go back in time, you can
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  Speaker 1: place and that's how Ezra. That's from Darth.
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  Speaker 2: Vader, because I was like, then, why can't he say
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  Speaker 2: what's his name?
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  Speaker 1: Canaan? Yes, Yes, which was supposed to be the point,
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  Speaker 1: like that he had to like let go, but I
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  Speaker 1: was like, but he didn't let go? Okay, whatever. But
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  Speaker 1: some people think that this is gonna really lean on
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  Speaker 1: that idea and perhaps, and this is a wild theory.
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  Speaker 1: I heard today that I was like, oh, please know
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to bring Anakin Skywalker back, like back back,
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  Speaker 1: like not as a like flashback, but like back. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see bad guys. Well, I don't think he'd be a
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  Speaker 1: bad guy. I think it would be pre the Vader
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  Speaker 1: Anakin Skywalker, I know who the bad guys shaw. Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. I don't for sure. I have my very
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  Speaker 1: strong beliefs. So I guess this goes. This dovetails really
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  Speaker 1: well with our standard Star Wars disclaimer. Cannon is very
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  Speaker 1: mussy and it's very confusing, and it has changed several times.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard another theory that Sabine is going to be
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  Speaker 1: for sensitive in this, which she definitely was not in
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  Speaker 1: the show. So yeah, we'll just we're gonna go with it.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of if you can see our past episodes on
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  Speaker 1: Bokatan Ahsoka, which is a classic that's coming out soon,
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  Speaker 1: Sabine Satene mon Mathma totally forgot. But yeah, is a
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  Speaker 1: part of this, Okay. So. Harrison Dula is a Twileck
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  Speaker 1: woman born a few years before the Clone Wars. Her
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  Speaker 1: character was featured largely during Rebels, and it's played by
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  Speaker 1: Mary Elizabeth Winstead in the upcoming Ahsoka series live action.
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  Speaker 1: She's also in the Bad Batch, where we get to
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  Speaker 1: see her coming of age story and she's briefly I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that. I would say she's in Rogue one,
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  Speaker 1: but she's like there, I don't know. It's a very
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  Speaker 1: vague cameo, but yes, she's in the Rise of Skywalker
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  Speaker 1: pretty briefly, comics games and all that stuff. She is
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  Speaker 1: from the planet Rylof, which is the home of the Twilex,
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  Speaker 1: and that's one of the largest groups of species in
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  Speaker 1: the Star Wars galaxy. Her father is General chem Sendula,
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  Speaker 1: and he helped lead Rylo off against the separatist during
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  Speaker 1: the Clone Wars. He was also very much against the
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  Speaker 1: Empire as it was rising. In her youth, Harrah rescue
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  Speaker 1: a Droid C one ten pe better known as Chopper
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  Speaker 1: Absolute Chaos. It's also in the Asoka show. She would
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  Speaker 1: watch Zimparatish ships come in and dream of becoming a pilot,
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  Speaker 1: and her uncle gave her some flying lessons. Her family's
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  Speaker 1: involvement in the Wars eventually led to her mother's death
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  Speaker 1: and it streng her relationship, though his viewpoints definitely influenced
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  Speaker 1: her and she did become a great pilot. She was
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  Speaker 1: inspired to join the rebellion, which led to her working
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  Speaker 1: with Bail Organa, who was a big leader of the rebellion,
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  Speaker 1: and through this she developed a relationship with Asoka, whose
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  Speaker 1: code name was Fulcrum. It's kind of like a spy
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  Speaker 1: code name. During rebellion and their friendship really blossomed. This
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  Speaker 1: also led to her becoming the pilot of a ship
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  Speaker 1: she called the Ghost because the Imperials couldn't keep up,
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  Speaker 1: so that's where a lot of the action of the
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  Speaker 1: rebels takes place the show, and this meant that the
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  Speaker 1: rebels who did join her ship were called Specters. Eventually,
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  Speaker 1: she met a Jedi who survived Order sixty six, Caleb Doom,
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  Speaker 1: now going by Canaan Jarris, and he opened up to her.
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  Speaker 1: They close. He became her second in command. She was
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  Speaker 1: the leader and caregiver of this whole crew. It was
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  Speaker 1: definitely her ship, and like her, she was driving the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. She was the leader of many key missions
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  Speaker 1: during the time of the rebellion and the Empire. She
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  Speaker 1: helped him on Matha go into hiding. After she denounced
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  Speaker 1: the Empire, she reconciled with her dad. She founded a
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  Speaker 1: secret rebel base called Chopper Base, and oh Canaan and
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  Speaker 1: Harrah's relationship was complicated. They tried to keep it under wraps.
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  Speaker 1: He was informed by Trauma, but Harah openly called him
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  Speaker 1: love And there are some legit complaints that she is
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  Speaker 1: overshadowed by Canaan Ezra, like it was more their story,
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  Speaker 1: even though it was like her ship and the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, Canaan died, yeah, and it was very sad
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  Speaker 1: and after his death, she really was the one holding
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  Speaker 1: this group together. She roast to the rank of general.
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  Speaker 1: She worked with Han Solo and Lando Calaisian, who, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, the running joke is she's way better pilot
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  Speaker 1: than Hansolo. I don't think it's a joke, but they're
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  Speaker 1: always kind of bringing that up in their teasing. Perhaps
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  Speaker 1: she was there during Return of the Jedi, like one
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  Speaker 1: of the final episodes. I think the final episode of
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  Speaker 1: Rebels is sort of alongside Return of the Jedi. She
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  Speaker 1: trained pilots. After the fall of the Empire, she joined
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  Speaker 1: the New Republic and trained squadrons. She was a great leader.
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  Speaker 1: Her call sign was Phoenix. She also had a son
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  Speaker 1: with Canaan named Jason, who is for sensitive and born
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  Speaker 1: to fly just like his mother, so he has both hours.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing I can't tell this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the complicated issues when they're like taking things from before
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  Speaker 1: Disney and bringing it into Disney. Cannon Jason is the
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  Speaker 1: guy I talked about Narmar and Jade episode. He's he
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  Speaker 1: was the son of Han and Leia who killed everything.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's like a nod to
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  Speaker 1: Heyl for people who have read it, here you go,
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  Speaker 1: or if it's some kind of foremoning thing I'm supposed
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  Speaker 1: to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: I just find it odd that they named him Jason,
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  Speaker 2: like one of the most common names outside of which
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  Speaker 2: you have like all these other names, like such implications.
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  Speaker 1: You're like Jason, I will say it's spelled j A
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  Speaker 1: C E N. But yes, okay, okay, okay, still said Jason.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's but I'm just like, yeah, no, I kiss you,
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  Speaker 2: I get you, Okay, I'll allow it, and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As we come upon this show and who knows what's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen with Harris. I wanted to include this quote
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  Speaker 1: from Winstead. Having a character who's already existed and has
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  Speaker 1: such a rich history on something like Rebels. As an actor,
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  Speaker 1: it's incredible because sometimes we're tasked with creating our own
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  Speaker 1: backstories or trying to flesh out a character that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really have that much on the page, and so to
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  Speaker 1: play a character that has season after season of storylines
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  Speaker 1: and complex histories with everyone in their life and relationships
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  Speaker 1: and experiences was really something I've never experienced quite like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just funny. For a second, it kind of sounded like
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  Speaker 1: what I say, what I'm talking about fan fiction? But yeah, yep,
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  Speaker 1: I always saying fiction. I know, I can't help it.
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  Speaker 1: I did want to know, I think I said at
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  Speaker 1: the top, but if I didn't, they are not currently sponsored. Goes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just excited. But also Samantha got to see me
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  Speaker 1: deliberate pretty well, semi intensely about whether to include this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing I found, not that I found, I've known this,
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  Speaker 1: but the Rye Loss, the planet the Twilight are from,
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  Speaker 1: was really destroyed and decimated by the Empire, and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of their people were enslaved. And then I was
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  Speaker 1: going to go in this whole thing about See, it's
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  Speaker 1: stressing me out just thinking about it, the history of that,
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  Speaker 1: and when you look at the Wookies and why there
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  Speaker 1: are you know a lot more humans in Star Wars
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  Speaker 1: than you know in theory, there'd be a lot more aliens,
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  Speaker 1: and I think part of that is we are people
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  Speaker 1: and it's easier. But how they explain it in the
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars universe can get really eppy too. So just
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  Speaker 1: a note, just a note. I'm sure we'll come back
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  Speaker 1: and talk. I could talk about it. I just thought
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  Speaker 1: that that would really ballue out of control in this
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  Speaker 1: particular episode. But yes, so we'll see. I bet I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to have some updates on this one because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to include and what not to include
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  Speaker 1: before this happens. I feel kind of tense you've been
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  Speaker 1: talking about it because I don't know. But we'll find
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