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INTERVIEW: A.J. Johnson & Tressa Smallwood Talk 'Fighting To Be Me', College Hazing, Polygamy + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are
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  Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club Law on the roaster head for Jesson.
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  Speaker 2: We got some special guests joining us this morning. We
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  Speaker 2: have A J Johnson, She's back. Good morning, Good morning,
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  Speaker 2: we have TRUSTA Smallwood Welcome.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning everyone.
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling this morning?
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  Speaker 4: Ladies?
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm in New York. It's cold as I'm on
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  Speaker 1: the walk, but I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't that bad if you came, but we could
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  Speaker 2: go to been like thirty twenty degrees.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you're bouncing between La and Africa.
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  Speaker 5: Anything under seventy is like, I'm not going outside.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Last time I saw you was then gone. Yes, but
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  Speaker 6: you living there now?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was back and forth then.
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  Speaker 5: You just didn't know it because it was December and
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  Speaker 5: everybody was hanging out. Okay, but I've been back and forth,
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  Speaker 5: living and working since twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got the email early.
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  Speaker 8: I was ing it was everything happening politically, or you
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  Speaker 8: just really wanted to just go and be, you know,
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  Speaker 8: back in Africa.
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  Speaker 1: I' would be honest.
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  Speaker 5: It was it was I love the life that I
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  Speaker 5: was developing there, but with the pandemic, I saw governmentally
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  Speaker 5: and politically what didn't feel right to me. Not that
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  Speaker 5: I knew what was happening, but just you know, in
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  Speaker 5: terms of the and honestly, when Africa opened up late
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty, I got there around November twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: So if you remember, we had been told, oh it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be two weeks.
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  Speaker 5: Oh it's gonna be six months, yes, right, yeah, right
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  Speaker 5: when it first started in twenty twenty. And of course,
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  Speaker 5: you know you call on Monday, you did by Friday.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, so right.
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  Speaker 5: So when I got to Africa and I'm watching CNN
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  Speaker 5: from there, me and my African friends are like, well,
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  Speaker 5: why is everybody dying? You know, we had masks on
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  Speaker 5: just to respect it. But it was like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you take a pill and everything's fine. So I was like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, something's not right, and let me start
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  Speaker 5: making moves now. So I started investigating like citizenship and
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  Speaker 5: just what it would take to do business there and
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  Speaker 5: to live there.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm bouncing back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: So you're dual citizen.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it. Oh yeah, you've.
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  Speaker 4: Been helping people get dual citizenship to saw Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you know I when it says help just
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  Speaker 5: to clarify because your people plugging my DM.
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  Speaker 1: You know, who do I need to write? What do
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  Speaker 1: I need to do? Listen? Can I pay you to
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  Speaker 1: get my passport?
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  Speaker 5: So I said, what that means is really, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm taking groups over with retreats.
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  Speaker 1: I got a retreat in July and a retreat in December.
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  Speaker 5: Been doing that for five years, just to show you
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  Speaker 5: the country, just to introduce it to you intimately, you know,
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  Speaker 5: get you off a tour bus and out of a
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  Speaker 5: group of one hundred and just really have you, you know,
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  Speaker 5: meet people, really have real estate conversations, learn what it's
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  Speaker 5: like to be employeed. When you're there, the rules are different,
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  Speaker 5: the country's different, and so we can't keep going as
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  Speaker 5: Americans expecting Africa to be America or to be run
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  Speaker 5: like that. So I try to educate and share, you know,
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  Speaker 5: form my life so that when it's time and you're
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  Speaker 5: really saying I.
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  Speaker 1: Want to make a move, I want to be a citizen.
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  Speaker 1: You know what it really takes.
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  Speaker 2: What got you to gun? And when did you first
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  Speaker 2: go to Gun? It was like this is I like this,
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  Speaker 2: this is where I want to live.
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  Speaker 5: I told you this, John Bade, I actually went for
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  Speaker 5: our birthday turn up. I was going through a breakup
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, I need new I need new fragrances,
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  Speaker 5: new freight, I need new men, new food, new clothes,
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  Speaker 5: new music. And so I went in twenty nineteen and
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  Speaker 5: I went with both Saint John and uh and Boris
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  Speaker 5: and Nicole Kujo and they took a group of celebrities.
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  Speaker 5: At the time, it was called Full Circle Festival, and
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  Speaker 5: so I was part of that and that seven days
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  Speaker 5: changed my life mentally, spiritually, nutritionally.
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  Speaker 1: Health wise.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I saw a difference in my hair and
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  Speaker 5: skin and weight management. No lie, like in four days,
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  Speaker 5: just because the food was different, you know, no chemicals,
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  Speaker 5: no hormones, and we don't know what that's like unless
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  Speaker 5: you spend time over there. And so I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I'm so down with what I'm seeing and feeling. And
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  Speaker 5: so I just started saying, you know, I'm gonna sell
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  Speaker 5: some of my air Mas bags. I'ma stop buying, you know,
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  Speaker 5: i'ma stop buying some of the red bottoms, and financed
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  Speaker 5: some flights over there and the more I went, the
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  Speaker 5: more I learned about, of course, US as a culture
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  Speaker 5: that we don't know, and the more I started embracing
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  Speaker 5: the African that I am.
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  Speaker 4: When you think about your overall talk about what y'all
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  Speaker 4: here for.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a lot of catch it up.
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  Speaker 6: When you think about your overall mental wellness, how does
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  Speaker 6: living in Ghana affect it as a poll living into
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  Speaker 6: the United States of anxiety?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, you know, to get off
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  Speaker 5: the plane and see everybody black. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 5: there's not you know, issues within us as people, but
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  Speaker 5: they're they're sure not racial issues.
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  Speaker 1: I don't experience personally. I don't experience any colorism.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm still talking to a lot of women
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  Speaker 5: who are dealing with you know, light skinned, brown skin.
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  Speaker 5: You know over there it's you know, the black of
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  Speaker 5: a berry, because our skin is so beautiful, and so
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  Speaker 5: that part the safety of it. I'm not running from
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  Speaker 5: the cops, you know, if I see sirens behind my car,
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  Speaker 5: I don't get nervous. And even just the love, the
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  Speaker 5: love and acceptance is different. The conversations are different. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we're talking about you know, being African and what that
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  Speaker 5: means and how do we get our resources back in
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  Speaker 5: our pockets as opposed to the man that's going on here.
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  Speaker 1: So it just I'm just more comfortable.
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  Speaker 5: I love it, and we're creators, you know, we're creative
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  Speaker 5: creators naturally, so I have more experience with more collaboration
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  Speaker 5: spirits as opposed to I got mine, you get yours,
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  Speaker 5: which I think is a lot of what happens here,
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  Speaker 5: and so I really love the collaborative energy I'm experiencing there.
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  Speaker 8: How is celebrity different being in Africa versus being over
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  Speaker 8: here in the seats?
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  Speaker 1: I think, Well, I'm answered a couple of ways.
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  Speaker 5: One of the reasons I'm back and forth is because
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  Speaker 5: I feel and see my value there as an American celebrity.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't mind that, you know, I know that
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  Speaker 5: they value my work and my and my resume, and
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  Speaker 5: so we're using that as well, teaching master classes and
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  Speaker 5: things like that. But at the same time, I think
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  Speaker 5: the African celebrity also wants some of the American celebrity.
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  Speaker 5: So now after five years, I've got friends in the
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  Speaker 5: business there and we're trying to you know, we're looking
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  Speaker 5: for scripts.
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  Speaker 1: You know, It's one of the reasons why I trusted,
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  Speaker 1: not connected.
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  Speaker 5: We're looking for international scripts so that we can join
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  Speaker 5: forces and bridge and do more projects. So I think
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  Speaker 5: there's benefits to the celebrity on both continents. But again
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  Speaker 5: it's like, you know what happens if we come together.
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  Speaker 8: That's the point, right, And I know that you guys
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  Speaker 8: are here to talk about Fighting to Me, the Dwyn
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  Speaker 8: Curry story. You mentioned Tressa and Trust. I know you're
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  Speaker 8: new to the platform. I want to introduce yourself in
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  Speaker 8: Mega My Media.
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  Speaker 7: What you do, Yes, absolutely so I'm trust Siza Real Smallwood.
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  Speaker 7: I'm CEO of Mega My Media, an independent movie production
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  Speaker 7: company that's making our own way in the industry. So
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  Speaker 7: where THEI gets cut, we don't get cut.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.
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  Speaker 5: And I want to make sure you all know how
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  Speaker 5: important that is, which is why I'm paddling around with
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  Speaker 5: marsis because you know, nowadays the studios are are governing
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  Speaker 5: what we're doing, and they're not really that interested in
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  Speaker 5: our stories. And so this Fighting to Be Me is
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  Speaker 5: my second project with Mega Mind and Tresa. I did
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  Speaker 5: a Christmas movie which I hadn't done. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 5: check the boxes of things I hadn't done, and so
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  Speaker 5: I did Holiday Heartbreak with Trusta and I was like, yo, family,
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  Speaker 5: Family Run. I was like, this is good. It feels good.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the project's good. I'm getting paid on time.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I love this.
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  Speaker 6: I love this doing Curry for the people who are
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  Speaker 6: from dwyn Curry, you have a close relationship with well Dwenn.
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  Speaker 5: Dwynn is a very well renowned and respected Hollywood stylist
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  Speaker 5: from the nineties and honestly, not only is he known
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  Speaker 5: for styling celebrities like Lisa Ray and Yo Yo and
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  Speaker 5: Missy Elliott, he was one of my first stylists when
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  Speaker 5: I right after House Party when I hit you know,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, in the nineties, you know, being gay
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  Speaker 5: and and and being in that world wasn't necessarily as
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  Speaker 5: accepted as it is now. And so Dwynn, looking for
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  Speaker 5: love and acceptance, turned to a life of crime and
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  Speaker 5: so yeah, and so in all of that celebrity and
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  Speaker 5: and and Alcohlade, he became a convicted felon for credit
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  Speaker 5: card fraud. And so now she in trance in the
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  Speaker 5: trans community, is now an advocate, has done time and
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  Speaker 5: is trying to teach the more visible community in the
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  Speaker 5: LGBTQ plus you know how to survive and thrive actually
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  Speaker 5: without it being criminal.
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  Speaker 2: Breakdown some of the people that Dwin styled for, because
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  Speaker 2: Dwinn style for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean, I'm just naming a few us
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  Speaker 5: and Lisa Ray, Missy, Elliott, Gabriel, Union, me DMX on there.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and I'm telling you in the nineties it
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  Speaker 5: was like when doing I mean it's depicted in the movie,
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  Speaker 5: when dwyn would walk in a restaurant a club, it
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  Speaker 5: was like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, the celebrity, the for real celebrity.
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  Speaker 5: Had arrived, because you know, we look at styling now
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  Speaker 5: as just you know, who puts your hair and clothes together.
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  Speaker 1: But Dwynn was creating the images.
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  Speaker 5: Dwynn was actually creating the celebrities in the nineties based
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  Speaker 5: on knowing your image is how you walk in the room,
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  Speaker 5: what you look like. And so in the nineties, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of us, as black talent and the culture, we
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  Speaker 5: didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Like in the movie it depicts you saw where Yo
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  Speaker 1: Yo Yoyo.
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  Speaker 5: Was like, you know, I'm a rapper with braids in
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  Speaker 5: a bandana, and Dwynn was like, oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: you got to be you gotta be a sexy and
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  Speaker 5: change her whole career trajectory.
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  Speaker 7: So it should respect her a lot even now to today,
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  Speaker 7: you know, they reach out to her like, hey, we
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  Speaker 7: don't want to let what's happening now and how people
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  Speaker 7: are kind of turning their backs on a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people in the community, and they're like, you know, you
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  Speaker 7: did this for us, you changed us, and they're stepping
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  Speaker 7: up for Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of times I don't get dressed without saying, okay,
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  Speaker 5: this shoe or the shoe, and.
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  Speaker 1: I'll send her, I'll send her pictures and she'll be like,
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  Speaker 1: neither wine do that. And I was like, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So that was.
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  Speaker 2: Your story so important out of all the stories that
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  Speaker 2: you could have picked or choose, Why was this story
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  Speaker 2: so important to both of you guys?
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  Speaker 7: I think for me personally, you know, it's a responsibility
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  Speaker 7: of mine to tell the diverse stories that other people
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  Speaker 7: won't tell. You know, we know that in Hollywood it's
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  Speaker 7: really challenging to get a project greenlit. And so because
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  Speaker 7: I have the capability of deciding, you know what I'm
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  Speaker 7: going to shoot, and I have distribution, I say, you
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  Speaker 7: know how can I change somebody's life?
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  Speaker 3: What's the story?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 7: And even with with Dwyn Curry, I had a lot
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  Speaker 7: of people say to me, hey, why why would you
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  Speaker 7: pick this in particular when you know that it's a
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  Speaker 7: touchy subject in this day and age. And I said,
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  Speaker 7: that's exactly why I'm tackling it, because nobody else is
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  Speaker 7: going to do it. And even when you think about
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  Speaker 7: the role that Aj plays in the movie s Twin's
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  Speaker 7: mother who said, hey, I knew you were gay. I'm
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  Speaker 7: not gonna say I agree with this, but you're my son.
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  Speaker 3: I love you. People need to hear that now, right.
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  Speaker 7: People are going through it, and you need to know
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  Speaker 7: that there are people that are gonna believe in you,
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  Speaker 7: that they're gonna speak up for you, despite what everybody
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  Speaker 7: else is saying out here right. Trans yes, trans, And
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  Speaker 7: and to be clear, you know a lot of people
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  Speaker 7: are trying to figure out fully trans in terms of
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  Speaker 7: having the sexual you know, assignment. No, but she is,
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  Speaker 7: she is trans, but not without the sexual without the assignment.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder how networks feel about that now, because when
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  Speaker 6: you see you know, President Trump sign in executive order
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  Speaker 6: basically saying that there's only two genders female now do
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  Speaker 6: even network you want.
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  Speaker 4: To touch them, They don't.
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  Speaker 3: They do not.
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  Speaker 7: And so this was a project that we shot last
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  Speaker 7: year and we shot it in April in Washington, DC,
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  Speaker 7: and even then people were like.
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  Speaker 3: What is this Charlotte shooting? You know what's going on?
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  Speaker 7: You know, but again, you gotta be courageous enough to
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  Speaker 7: tell the story, but know why you're telling it. And
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  Speaker 7: God is a god of love. I don't care what
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  Speaker 7: any of us believe, you know. We wanted to show
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  Speaker 7: that this is unconditional love. And if when you watch
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  Speaker 7: the movie, you see it from Dwen's uncle who said, hey,
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  Speaker 7: I don't like what you're doing. I don't like the drugs,
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  Speaker 7: I don't like any of this, but I love you
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  Speaker 7: and I'm going to see you through this. And I
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  Speaker 7: think that that's something that we all need right now,
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  Speaker 7: just unconditional love.
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  Speaker 2: And after that was dope for that time period too,
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  Speaker 2: because that time period was a time where I think.
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  Speaker 4: Most people wouldn't understand.
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  Speaker 2: And for the uncle to actually say, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: care what you what you do, what you're intruth, I
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  Speaker 2: want you to go to rehab, right, but I love you.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was amazing and.
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  Speaker 7: I don't want your riches because remember Dwenn tried to
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  Speaker 7: buy the Lolas, right, yeah, because it was like, okay,
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  Speaker 7: I'm getting money, Like now I want this is how
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to get you to like me. And the
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  Speaker 7: Uncle's like, yeah, I don't need that. I love you
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  Speaker 7: just because I love you, and.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say for me, honestly, the response for me,
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  Speaker 5: even twenty years after doing Baby Boy, helped me decide
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  Speaker 5: to do it. I mean, Dwynn was like, you have
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  Speaker 5: to do it, you know, you have to play this role.
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  Speaker 5: Tressell was like, there's nobody else. You have to do it.
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  Speaker 5: And it wasn't. The personal connection for me to Dwinn
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  Speaker 5: and his mom and made me say yes. I learned
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  Speaker 5: with Baby Boy that so many women and so many
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  Speaker 5: mothers look to that story for permission to be complex
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  Speaker 5: and complicated in their mother's son relationships.
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  Speaker 4: Mama gotta have a life too, come on now and so.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And so when I read the script and looked at
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  Speaker 5: the story, I liked the complexity of their relationship. I
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  Speaker 5: like the complicatedness of it, and you know, I feel
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  Speaker 5: like that's love too, And especially in the in families
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  Speaker 5: navigating the LGTQ community, and so I wanted to do
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  Speaker 5: my part to give permission to these women, as mothers
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  Speaker 5: and sisters and the families to know it's not easy,
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  Speaker 5: and it's and it's complicated, but you have permission to
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  Speaker 5: allow it to be. And so sometimes I think visually
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  Speaker 5: can change something. I posted one of the scenes on
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  Speaker 5: my Instagram yesterday where he first comes to tell me
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  Speaker 5: on a phone call that he's gay, and so even that,
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  Speaker 5: as simple as that is, like, that's the thing in
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  Speaker 5: our culture, right, that's the thing in our community.
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  Speaker 1: Do I say it? Do I not?
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  Speaker 5: I interviewed a lot of gay trans families, and so
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  Speaker 5: many gay men said they're fifty and they still haven't
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  Speaker 5: come out to their families, right. So to me, it's
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  Speaker 5: another one for the culture. That's what I've been saying.
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  Speaker 2: I just got to ask one question. You just mentioned
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  Speaker 2: house party and just made me think about it.
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  Speaker 1: I said, baby boy, about how the reason.
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  Speaker 2: I said the house party is my daughter's dance, right,
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  Speaker 2: and when I show them movies with people dancing that
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: look like us as hip hop, we have to go
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  Speaker 2: back to house party. And I've always wondered why don't
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  Speaker 2: we do cultural movies like that anymore, Like we don't
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  Speaker 2: see those type just do I have to be about
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  Speaker 2: the boys in the hood in that, But like House add.
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  Speaker 7: The ejects are not green lighting those types of projects.
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  Speaker 7: So we have to come together right in our community
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  Speaker 7: and invest with each other. Every single movie that I've
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  Speaker 7: ever produced under the Megami Media banner, we have investors
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  Speaker 7: that say, I'm gonna put this money up because I
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  Speaker 7: want to see the movies that other people won't green light.
• 14:31
  Speaker 7: And that's what's making it happen.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: And just think about what's crazy about that? Because House
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Party just celebrated thirty five years crazy crazy, and we're
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: still talking about still doing the dances still, which I love.
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: And then you got the other side of it, baby boy,
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: it's celebrating twenty twenty two years. So it's like, if
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: you're looking for the longevity in your content, it's kind
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: of best to say, you know, why not why try
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: to fix what's what's not broken? In terms of that
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: just feel good Kmar films, the family films, So a
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: lot of times, you know, the studios are falling the trends,
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: that's not necessarily what's gonna be talked about in thirty
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: five years.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: I think the nineties early two thousands was more focused
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: on black joy.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I agree, And.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: Then somewhere along the line it just became about let's
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: oppression in a lot of ways, you know what I mean?
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, sign of the government,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: sign of the times, right, sign of where we are.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: But I also think, which is what I love about
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: Trusted and Mega my media, They're not afraid, which is
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: how we came to fighting to be me. They're not
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: afraid to take a stance and say this story is
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: important for the culture. It's not getting done, and we
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: need to tell it, we need to talk about it,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: we need to give support to it. And so here
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: we are, and it's you know, it's a visual support system.
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: I was gonna say, y'all touch so much stuff in
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: the movie. I literally kept sensing myself, why haven't I
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: heard of this movie? Why haven't I seen it? Some
• 15:53
  Speaker 8: of this stuff could go viral, the names involved, And
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: it was the first question I asked you this morning
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: when I saw you, like, yo, why I didn't hear
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: about this before you guys.
• 15:59
  Speaker 9: Were coming up here.
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: And it's unfortunate because it's really really good, Like the
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: she Dwinn is so fly and it's just so fabulous.
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: You're like, oh, okay, she was getting money with the
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: with the Jesus the g aginsts.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Don't you love at least when I watch it what
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I love?
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Have you seen it yet, Shrmy, No, you see it
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: all other gay gangsters. I know, I know what I
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: love is watching you know, I love how brilliantly we
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: we went through the timeline with the fashion. If you
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: notice Mama Sen's hair changed from a certain bob to
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: highlights to platinum blond.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Platinum blon were now killing it, but.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Your platinum blond were now till like mid nineties, late nineties, right,
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: So even the timeline and the dress, you know Duin's hairstyles,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: the blowout.
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: The leather wrap around top that you had on with
• 16:44
  Speaker 8: the cut. When Dwyn called you from jail, yeah, I
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: was like, oh, mom is getting money now? They sitting
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: there like this is like gangster fashion right now. It
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: was like drug lord fashion.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, if you don't know the nineties, you kind of
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: got to go back and research that. But if you
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: really look at the nineties, that story, like you're saying,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: the story is still with so much that's different stories
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: besides just what's happening?
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: What did you guys decide to omit from the movie?
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: Because you even mentioned names directly, like but.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: One name, Oh, who is is?
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Is?
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: Who is Zaire? Because okay, so the background, you gotta
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: given background for people.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so so Zaire was one of Dwynn's life loves
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: that that happened to be an upcoming rapper in the nineties,
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: really popular, but was gay and a Muslim and so
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: at the time, of course, you know, he wasn't out,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: but they were madly in love and so you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: in the story, it portrays that that situation and the
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: hardship of not just them being gay and lovers. But
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: how does this work and the fact that it didn't
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: then or or it doesn't now, we don't know. But
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: once again, just you know, we're talking about freedom. How
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: many of of of people are fighting their sexuality because
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: of their religious beliefs or their family you know, they
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: they're upbringing their family background. So that's one person in it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I mean a lot of names were changed. There's a
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: couple of situations was.
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: I was like, wait, what who is it? Because y'all,
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: y'all directly say other people's names. And I'm like, that
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: was done a purpose, but I get, I understand.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: And there's also that the whole reality start thing that
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: sent him, that sent her back to prison. That's the
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: name change. Okay, so you know you have to you
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: have to go fight the easter eggs as they call
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: him in cinema, the truth of the stories. But yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: there's a lot. There's a lot that we're hoping to
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: do a series because there's so much. I mean, let
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: me just say this. The apple doesn't fall.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Far from the tree.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: We had an hour and a half to tell the story.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: But listen, Dwinn, she gets it from somewhere and that
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: Mama sin, that Mama sin.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason why she wants to say it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: No, you keep the money she was taking them first,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: and them diamonds and the clothes and the move to
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: l A.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: There's a lot going on, you know, y'all mentioned support.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Support is important because you can make these films, but
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: if nobody supports them, it won't make sense for you
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: to do them, and it won't make sense for studios
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: to buy them.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: So how important is supporting?
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, we need the eyeballs on these projects. And so
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: you know, dwayn Curry is currently streaming on beet Plus
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: and we need everybody to go watch it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: We you know, Shameless plugged.
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: Last night.
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: AJ and I were in Times Square and we saw
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: the billboard come up right, and we were so excited.
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, it was just like, Okay, this is real.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: People are getting eyeballs on it. You know, we had
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: a premiere last week, people started talking about it. But
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: to Lawren's point, we need more people talking about it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: And you know, I gotta say, even with these cultural, iconic,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: legendary projects, from my experience, it takes time. You know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: for these stories that are not mainstream, it takes time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: You know, House Party was a small independent when it
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: first came out. Baby Boy didn't do it was a
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: sony picture, but it didn't really do great in the theater.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: And so now everybody's like, whoa, these are iconic classics.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: But you know, once again, you just have to talk
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: it up and market and you know, thank you guys
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: for having us because we you have to tell more
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: of the community. You got to watch, tune in, spread
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: the word, you know, watch, so we get more of
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: them done.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Have you ever turned down a film because it wasn't
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: good for business because you want to create art, right,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: but it's still a business.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: You ever say yourself like that might be a little tough.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, truly, I definitely think about distribution before I ever
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: shoot anything, you know, and so it's it's always keep
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: in mind independently is my money? So that means you
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: are really thinking this through in terms of can I
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: get this money back?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Where can we go? Who's going to support it?
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: And doesn't have longevity because when you own your films
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: and perpetuity, like right now BT owns the rights to
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: Duane Curry, Well, five years from now, you can start
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: licensing that product to another platform, and so you have
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: to think, you know, ahead, ahead of the game going
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: Okay in ten years, who will still want to see
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: this project?
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: And that's why she says it's important to own it
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: because once the contract is up with a network, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: go someplace in do what you want with it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: Well, have you ever seen the meme Aja of there's
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: a video of you in your garden as a baby
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: boy's mom, and everybody's like, now that we're older, we
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: understand why her having his garden and having that blunt
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: in the garden was so important?
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: Saw that mean? Before?
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Lord, let me tell you something, every type somebody posts it. Yes,
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: I get it, sit to me, okay thousand times.
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: So when you see that, I mean you probably understood
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: that then because you were at you know what I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: you were in it. You had to channel the character.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: But like when you see that and you see like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: because my generation is doing it, people younger than me
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: are reposting it like that type of impact, Like, what's
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: your response to that?
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: Are you?
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: And listen? When I shot the film, I didn't know.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't get it. So I feel like everybody.
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: Else you did know, we believed you so bad.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I exactly I was what I'm saying.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Now that I'm older, I understand that stance, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: in terms of just wanting the piece and finding your
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: own place, especially as women, you know, we're so busy
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: doing and doing and doing that. I now understand the
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: importance of yeah, but where's the piece? Is it in
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: your garden? Is it just with a glass of want?
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Is a kicking it with your girls? So I understand,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and the fact that it's become such an iconic moment.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: You never can predict that you know at least I can't.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I never I never can predict what's going to be iconic.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: And I don't pick projects even thinking that I picked
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: projects because I know that my divine assignment is to
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: do projects where there's a message, you know, And I
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: always think, if I do this. It just took me
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: up to think about it. If I do this project,
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: can I change one life? Can I talk to one
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: person and maybe shift their perspective? If the answer is yes,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: that's why I do it. So that's why you don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: see me a lot. Honestly, in film, it's got to
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: mean something. I can't just do the hot the hot
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: project or the hot script. If I can't find a
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: reason for me to give a message, then it's not mine.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: What makes you want to do a film?
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Because you know, when I watch Baby Boy now, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: got a whole different perspective of it than I did
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: twenty years ago. So what made you want to do
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: that film twenty years ago? What was the message in
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: it for you?
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: The message was, you know, single moms are not necessarily
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: the downfall, and to give single moms hope in once again,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: like I said, that prepared me for fighting to be me.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: You know, single moms, especially in the hood, are learning,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: growing up and learning with their kids that you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: I wanted to give them permission to fail and to
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: keep moving and that love always wins. Even Mama Sin said,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: not knowing that she was confirming what I knew from
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: the experience of Baby Boy. When I was researching with
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Mama Sin and just making her go deep about why
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: certain things that I knew were gonna be depicted in
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: this film, she finally said, tears streaming, she said, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: fear can lead, but love has to win. And so
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: that's what made me go okay, because as black women
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: in these situations, a lot of times we're leading and
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: living in fear. And so if the film can depict
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: step out the fear and do what you know you
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: have to do, whether it's putting your son out because
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: it's time for him to learn how to be a
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: man on his own and you can't do it, or
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: whether it's you know, sending your drug addict gay son
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: away in the nineties because you know he at the
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: time doesn't know who he she is. Then sometimes love
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: is doing the hard thing, and so if God's choosing
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: me to do it on film, I gotta do it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: That's how I felt to watch it.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: When you watch Baby Boy now, it's like at first,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: when you first see it, you think this is a
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: movie about this young man, but it's really about the
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: women and the women in his life and how he
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: has to eventually break the cycle I think of single motherhood.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah way, and let me tell you now that it's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: years later.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: One of the things my dear love and friend John Singleton,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: when Sony told him that they wanted a PG rating,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: it was it was it was shot to be are
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: because there was a lot of the women, the sexuality
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: and all that. Sony said they wanted PG and pushed
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: the film with Tyrese and Snoop because they were the hot,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: the hot talents at MTV at the time. That wasn't
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: the story though, So they actually gave John millions of
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: dollars to reshoot some of the film to focus on them.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: A lot of the chase scenes at the end, you
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: know Snoop coming out of jail, he goes on the
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: foremost of the time In the original script, and it
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: was about me and being in the relationship Taraji and Tyrese,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: But the studio was like, that's not the story. What's
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: funny now is what you just said all these years later,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: It is exactly the story in that deep.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the family you ended up with ving Raams, so.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: That that's that's a full family now. Yeah, you know
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Tyrese and Saraji ended up together, so that's a full family.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Now, only brother got left. That was Tyre's first baby, Mama.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: I want to just give Aj a shout out because
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: I was thinking about as you were talking. They don't
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: know your your presence on set. When Aj comes on set,
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: everybody is going to leave fulfilled. You're going to get
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: schooled and you don't even know that you're getting school.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: You're going to get some inspiration and you don't even
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: realize that it's coming people. You You change so many
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: lives when you're on set.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You always do.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I hope so because I know now that when I
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: go on set, I'm not there to boost my celebrity.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: You know I'm not there. I mean, honestly, I've been
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: doing this since I was twenty, so you know, the
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Red Carpets, I get it, but you already know you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: life is more than that, At least for me, it
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: is and to be able to travel and live in
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: other countries is way more than that. So for me,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: when I go on set, I know it's a divine
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: assignment to just show people at this age and stage
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: that your life can be full and it doesn't have
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: to be about chasing the next project. Like even now
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: when I'm doing interviews in red carpets for this, So,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: what's your next project? And I said, Collie Joeneralists is
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: still asking that, like after twenty thirty years, and I say,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: you know what, I don't freaking know. And I'm okay
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: with that. I'm okay with that. I'm producing, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I'm looking for projects, we're looking for scripts. So we
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: don't know yet. But I mean I couldn't say that
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: with confidence twenty years ago because that just wasn't the
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: thing to do. But now the freedom I live with,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: the freedom is amazing. So I'm just trying to, you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: be an example on set, and I know that's why
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I'm there.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I gotta ask you attended and you graduated Spelman, Yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Now you're also a member of Delta Sigma
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Theta have been for years now. You heard this, Well,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: yesterday morning when we were talking about the young man
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: that lost his life.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: He so glad you're bringing us out, go ahead.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: And wanted you to break that down.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: We were talking about is hazing should fraternities this already
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: should be Should they still be doing hazing at this point?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, how much time we got because yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: yeah yeah. So let's start with the fact that I
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: pledged at seventeen, one of the youngest undergraduate pledges at
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: Spelman at the time, and then through my stay at Spelman,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I became vice president of the chapter, which then gives
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: me Dina pledges as a new when the new line
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: comes in and Dina probates. The difference between those is
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Dino pledges is you bring the new pledges in and
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: see them through the process. Dina Probates means you carry
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: them through the end of the process because it's a process.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: And so having those two positions, I can comfortably say
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: that hazing is a personal thing. It's not an organization thing.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: When I say that, meaning if you've been hazed before
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: and you want to interject that on a new pledge,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: that's a personal thing. My pledge period was no walking
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: the park. It was not and so one of the
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: reasons I wanted to become DNA Pledges is to say
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: that's not necessary. And again we're talking about undergraduate pledging.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: So when you are twenty five and twenty six and
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: you're no longer even in the school and you're still
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: coming back to be part of the pledge period, that's
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: also a personal thing like what are you missing and
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: why are you coming back to inflict possibly deadly fatal force.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: If you're in the institution and you're a member of
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: the chapter, nine times out of ten you're being raised
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: in the way that the chapter is being raised. And
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: so nowadays hazing's not allowed. So again I'm still going
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: to there's something personal, a personal vendetta that somebody's exercising
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: in that. The other side of it is, as Dina Pledges,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: I'm in control, and that's just it. I'm in control
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: of not only who's around the pledges within the chapter,
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: but also the visit members of the organization that come back.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: So it's my say who gets to be around the
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: pledges period. So that job only goes to we were
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: talking about this, that job only goes to a strong
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: spirit and authoritative spirit to make sure that the pledges
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: stay safe.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So were there sorrows coming back around when I was
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: seeing pledgies. Absolutely? Was I the ones saying no, we're
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: not doing that, No you can't be there. And you
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: know who they are. See, that's the other thing.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: A lot of these a lot of these hazers, you
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: know who they are or you know the potential they have,
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: so they're not strangers to your organization or to your chapter.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: You have to stand up and say that's gonna be
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: an now.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: When you look at tradition, right, because you know a
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: lot of people that have been through the process might
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: say I've been paddled before.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people say I might been whatever before. Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And usually those things don't kill you, don't hurt you.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: But right in situations, it can happen.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, So what do you say in that situation in
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: terms of when you when you have those things going
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: like paddle.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Right, that that's something that a lot of sororities and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: fraternities say, Yes, that has happened before.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, you can get hit with a paddle and die.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: And so so here's the open honesty. So I've been paddled.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Usually when the sentry club, the lady called one and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: says she was at the centry.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I did, I did.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: I made the central You were young, So are you
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: allowed to talk about it? Not beyond me saying I mean, I'm.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Part of this.
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna say, because you normally, I don't
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: know how much you could talk about. But I have
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: I have friends that have been younger on the line. Yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: and they got a little bit worse because they were younger.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: I don't know if your experience leaning toward that either too,
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: because you were younger, like they were making examples.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that was the case. I mean,
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: I do believe sometimes that is the case. I don't
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: necessarily think that was the case with my line. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: when I pledged, it was a lot of suspended chapters.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: It was a lot of you know, not having lines
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: for years, so you know, but once again, we were
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: talking about different time. We're talking about early you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: late eighties, early nineties, so it's a whole different time.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: But what I say is once and you're typically blindfolded,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: so you don't know who it is, you don't know
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: what's happening, right, So to me, once I became a
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: member of the chapter and started seeing how that works.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: There's things that can replace that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Uh, that's that's that's tradition that doesn't need to stay.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: And that's what I feel, you know, there's traditions that
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: don't need to stay. I mean when I was needing
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: pledges and a lot of my pledges are gonna say.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I had them exercising.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I mean that was punishment enough, right, you don't know
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: your founders more mild and they're like, oh man, really,
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: it's like, you know, there's different forms of teaching and
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: being authoritative without it being physical abuse.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like if it's college, it should
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: be something more cerebral.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Well I'm just I mean, there's just it doesn't have
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: to be physical abuse period.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And that's just my stance.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes people will say that the graduate
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: people that's that's in the fraternity and sorority are not
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: looked at the same as the people that actually quote
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: unquote pledged.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Grad chapter correct. Well, that's true.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: And then we also some organizations in the D nine
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: also have honorary members. Now, what I say as having
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: pledged is what's most important to me is the union
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: and the camaraderie of me having had line sisters some
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: of my best friends to this day, as separate as
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: our lives have gone, kids no kids, teacher, I'm in Hollywood,
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: we're still connected because we helped each other through a
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: trying process as we were teenagers. You're not getting that
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: and graduate right, and you're definitely not going through that
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: when you're in and when you're an honorary. So I
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: think we have the value and undergrad we have to
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: value the truth of the process and know that it
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: doesn't have to be physically abusive, especially when it can
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: be fatal.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Now also talking about the importance of sororities and fraternities,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: because was like, I also do a blood.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Of crypt I heard you.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: I asked that too earlier when we started talking and
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: I said, hey, tell me, what is the biggest benefit
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: now at your age, I said, because I didn't pledge
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: because I didn't like seeing what some of my friends
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: online were going through.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would give.
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: It to me, I said, tell me, I feel like
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: insteadic you give aka, but internally you give dota.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: That's what I think we can change the esthetic.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: No, no, no, because deltas like you know what I mean, period.
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: But I do think there's a look I know what
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: you mean period? I do, But can you talk about
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: that from undergrad and and graduate, Like, what's the importance
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: undergrad and then graduate being able to fit?
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it changes. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: think it matures.
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: I don't.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: I don't think the benefit changes in undergrad. You know,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: when you're studying, when you're looking to graduate and find
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: a job, you know, you've got generations of women that
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: have gone that are with you, that have gone before you,
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: that are going to be a help that.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: You won't normally have.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: You've got sororiety members that are in corporations that that
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: may be able to get your resume in a different
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: position and faster than if you weren't a member. And
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: remember i'll speak for mine. You know, there's a certain
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: g PA that is required to pledge, and so you've
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: got a certain intellect. Going back to the collegiate thing,
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: you've got a certain intellect to even qualify.
• 33:55
  Speaker 9: Y'all don't play about education.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: We don't, and so our foundation, Our foundation is service
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and education.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: So for Chinese that they want you bad enough, they'll
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: figure it out. But delta is their number one thing.
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: They don't play about the.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: Day and I'm gonna tell you, even in the graduate level,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: it's even strict with being being a you having a
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: graduate degree, at this point, I probably wouldn't have made
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: line outside of undergrad because I don't have the the
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: the graduate level education that's required.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: So that's part of it.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: And so what happens is the organization is building a
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: platform and a funnel of education like mind, like minded,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: like spirited women. So now you've got all these women
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: who are successful in their own right helping each other worldwide.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: So they're worldwide organizations. I can travel, whether it's Australia, Africa,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: and I'm meeting the sorrow who's saying, hey, what are
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: you trying to do?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, what are you trying to do?
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Well, let's connect Or I know a sorrow who's or
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: who's So I don't know where I would be, whether
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: it's Hollywood or or just in my life if I
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: didn't have Saaras to call on. And now it's bigger
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: than Delta for me, it's now de nine because as
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: a as a Hollywood personality, it's more than just Delta.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: I've got friends and colleagues that are Aka and Zeta
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and and so now it's even bigger because now we
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: have more of a D nine sorority going than just
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Delta or just Aka or just Zeta or just Sigmun Gammero.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: So it's it's really a like mind to like spirit.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: It from the beginning is they're a film y'all would
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: want to make about the D nine.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: That's that's confirmation, your confirmation.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: We just thought we were just because of this.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: We were talking about it because I was saying, n Tresa,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I've seen where TV shows and movies have tried to
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: touch on it, but they rarely use true Greeks to consult,
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: and so it's always been a problem for me to
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: have pledged and obviously passionate about it, but but them
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: not getting the intricate details right. Not that we tell
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: the secrets of the organization, but there's still things that
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: could help people better understand why. The fact that you're
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: even asking that means that the stories that have been
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: told have not been accurate enough.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Not only that it's.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Bigger than in other communities or in other cities than
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: others Like I'm from New York, so fraternities and sororities
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: we didn't see as much, but I had roommates from
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: in down South Mississippi and Atlanta, so it was everything
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: for them and the legacy my dad. When you have
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: those roommates and they're telling you about it and what
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it does, it hypes you up to be like, damn,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I think I want to do that, which put me
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: onto it because I never heard anything about it. But
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they would always say, you know, when I graduate, my
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: my my brother's gonna help me get this job. My
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: fraternity brother is gonna help me in this lane. He's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: gonna guide me when it comes to this. And I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: was like, that's things come.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's what people should cinema.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: Explain to people who haven't been on HBCU campus and
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: actually went to the school, because you know that while
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: you're there, but see it, yeah, and you feel it,
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: like the Greek impact. That's why, like when Kamala was
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: getting all that flag for like going and speaking to
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: Greek organizations over whatever. I'm like, if people understood the
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: power of the Divine Nine and what they can do
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: when they unified, they would get it. But for people
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: who've never been on the STCU campus, you don't feel
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: the power in the culture that Divine Nine brings, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: I think it is because we're not seeing it in
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: cinema maybe consistently in the right way.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: We're looking for investors.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah for sure for that lady to or yeah period.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: Right, but wait, is that why Judge matthis is one
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: of the he's like the produce. He's an ep on
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: the Dwiny because he is do you know him through
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: the He's different, he's.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: A so.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: So Judge actually took in both the Tenisa Welch story
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: and the dwyn Carry story to be Et because b
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: Et was doing the American Gangsters series and so both
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: of those projects they had episodics which I think it
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: was like maybe forty five minutes. And so those were
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: the two projects that BT said, all right, let's let's
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: make this a full biopic. But Judge matthis was the
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: one that took them and he had relationships with both
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: of them, and then they introduced Judge to me and
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: then that's how we.
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: I thought, because he's an alpha, and I thought y'all
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: might have known each other just like you know.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: It was it helped make a deeper connection, got you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: But I just I just want to ask something about
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: the Greek thing. You know, after spending time in Africa.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Another thing that I actually took a break because I
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: was so I was so busy in undergrad with Delta.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: I took a break because I just I was burnout.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: What made me want to come back to the organization
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: here is because we don't have as Americans, we don't
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: have the sense of village that we had on the continent.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: So families live in compounds, you know, families work together,
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: families grow together. As Americans, we don't have that, and
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: so I feel like that's another reason why a lot
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: of us pledged is to have that camaraderie in terms
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: of as we move through life here, our family separate,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: you know, as we get adults and we marry, we separate.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: In Africa, the new wife comes, the husband comes, the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: kids come, and then we stay together.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: So because we don't have that experience, I think that's
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: what makes a lot of us pledge. But I think
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: that's what the Greek organizations based here in America have
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: to remember.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: That we're creating villages. Is it's not about killing people.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: It's crazy you said that when I went to years ago.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Years ago, I went to Johannesburg to do some parties
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: and do some shows. And the person that I went there,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I went to visit him and.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: The way that he lived.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He bought the property next door to his house and
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: then brought the property next door to their house and
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: they all live like in a big compound. And I
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: just thought it was amazing. That's why my daughter still
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: lives in my house now at twenty three.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I just like that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I have the fact that you have that community. And
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what we got to the point where
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: it's like you turned to on the one you gotta
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: get to fuck out my house.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I well, we were taught that we were talking.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I like the fact that I can see my daughter
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: every day and it is what it is. She has
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend, that's fine. I love the fact that everybody's
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in the same house, same community. We cook together, we
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: play games together, we do this, we do that. There's
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: no other feeling. But it's also a safety for myself.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I know where everybody is. I was going to ask
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: one thing that Louis V said, which is our program
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: director from Atlanta. He said, the hardest thing about the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Divine Nine is people don't pay their dues and.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Sim because that a lot of times, y'all.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Don't have the power that you need because you don't
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: have the money and funding.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's an individual thing for organization, but I
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: know that, you know, I also feel like dues paying
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: has got to be more appealing in terms of what
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: the organization is going to do, you know, for me,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: because I'm a soul that's into service, I'm traveling the
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: world in service. I mean, I work for orphanages in
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Ghana and Senegal and I'm still doing what I was
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: trained to do as a delta. But to be in
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: a chapter in an organization, I have to be attracted
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: to what that chapter is going to do. And if
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: I'm paying dues, I need to know what's my money
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: being put towards. And I think that's where a lot
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: of organizations that in D nine organizations have to elevate
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: in terms of what are they really doing with the
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: financial obligation and so I you know, there's always room
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: to grow.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Mh.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: Well, the last question for you, what what's your what
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: would you rate your most impactful culturally impactful role of
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: all your roles?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Know, honestly, I've seen where you know, House Party has
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: done its thing and continues to do its thing. You know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: I can't deny that. You know, people are still running
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: up to me in Times Square at the airport with
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: you everything.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: You Yes, A lot of that has to do with
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: the fact you have not.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: She broke it down right out here before office had
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: had suit a head. I was like, yes, And then
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: of course Baby Boy, you know it's it has hits,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: it's plunged. And you see how to me, every project,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: and I can't speak for every actress, but I know
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: the way God moves with me, every project pushes me
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: into the next one. So as you heard me say,
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Baby Boy helped prepare me for for fighting to be me.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: This is my first installment of taking a dance anything LGBTQ,
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: and so that's a whole nother culture and community for me.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: So let's I mean, I'm sure this project is going
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: to do something in that community, in that space, but
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: as an African American culture, that's part of our culture.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: So I just think that for people to have seen
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: me so much in Baby Boy, and so many people
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: have grown up with me. You were saying that, right,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: have grown up with me in the culture I think
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: when I step on screen, it's just part of it anyway,
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: and I take that to my advantage. Yeah, I know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: like I said, I know when I step on screen
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: in a role like this, I know people are going.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: To pay attention, and so I take that seriously. What
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: do you think?
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: No, I just you did a great job as a
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Dwin's mom and you haven't met Hern's mom.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Oh like the mama said.
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: Oh no, no, no, no, she's crazier than how you were on screen.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: Yes, did you put a gun?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I pull a gun.
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: Let's just say I pull a early on in the movie.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I pull a gun.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Cigarette I do, I pull a gun. Look you, Sai,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: I go straight into Mama' saying straight into her.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a she's a she's a she's a colorful
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: person and.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: So and so.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Even that, you know, I was a little nervous because
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: there's a there's a risk as an actress. And I
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: talked to Trusts about this and the director when we're filming.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: There's a risk as an actress that people think, Okay,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: where where is all this coming from? In AJ's portrayal,
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: that's who she is, that's really who she is. So
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you look at the characters in the
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: story that are real people, you get to see, okay, this,
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: this whole story is really colorful. I'll just say that
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: you're gonna ask something now, I was.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Gonna say, what's the story that you that you want
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: to tell? TRESSA.
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: Ultimately, I think I want a faith based or faith
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: based adjacent project that will appeal to the masses and
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: get stories told that people wouldn't ordinarily listen to because
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: they hear faith based and then.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: They run what's faith based adjacent based?
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: A Jason is, for example, I'm getting ready to shoot
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: a movie that is a crime drama slash faith based
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: where it's a it's a it's a story about crime
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: and activity that's going on. But then there's this devout
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: Christian mother that has to make a decision where she's like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: you know what, I believe in the Lord. However, you
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: just mess with my child and we get ready to
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: have a problem.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: So if you tell.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: Stories like that where people it's real life, you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: because people think that being a Christian means I'm perfect,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: That's not what that means. And so I want to
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: tell a story that will relate to the masses where
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: they can see oh wow, like I can. I can
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: have faith but still be human. I'm not perfect. Doesn't
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: mean I have to do everything right. So I want
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: to tell a story like that, and I want to
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: do it in a big way with an excellent cast.
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: And AJ is gonna be my EP. Yes, Charlemagne's gonna
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: invest Lauren's gonna be in the movie.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, what you're doing? Yeah, what's gonna be your role?
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Everything?
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I can act, I can invest a you can figure out.
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: The soundtrack and the sound But you know what, even
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: though we're using this as an example, that is what
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: I was going to say that I'm going to do that,
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: and oh, I know, but you do that in real life,
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: Like I don't think people understand how lit it is.
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: Like even with me, like a first time pitching a show,
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: I got on the phone with her and she was like, okay,
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: so yeah, that's that's done.
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: What else you want to do? But I was like,
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: I had pitched to so many.
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: Networks directly, and I talked to her and she was
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: like and I was like, this is crazy because it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: like it's another black woman.
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: So she gets it, but.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: You do, You've empowered so many people through that, and
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: they're making real money. Like, yeah, that's another thing because
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: when you independently do stuff, you don't see her return.
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: But like so many country ways, so many people are
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: making money off of the projects you take to these
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: networks as well.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: Like that is just the vessel. And so what I
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: like to do is go in the room. We figure
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: out how we can work together, because that's the only
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: way we're gonna make it is if we collaborate. Everybody's
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: out here trying to be cutthroat. Me, me, me, that's
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: not how to win that. You can't do it that way.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Right, And they're expecting us to be cutthroat because they
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: know we can't win that way.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: So we have to change it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: And they're and they're telling us a lot and loud
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: that they're expecting us to act a certain way.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And so it's up to us to change the narrative.
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: So when she called, y'all answer the phone, because she's
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: going for the call, y'all, trust yeah what you just said, listen,
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: And it don't take.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Long with her.
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: And what's this role overpaying you for next?
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: You know, I think it's and this is interesting. After
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: baby boy, I was offered the mama role, the mama
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: role fifty seven, the mom mo role sixty five, and
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: I was and I turned a lot of it down
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: because I was using baby Boy as critical acclaim as
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: an actress to do more action. That's really what I
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: wanted to do, and so that didn't really happen. Not,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I don't think because of me. It's just that that genre.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Nobody was looking for a black action star.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: At the time. And so.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: Now I realize that there is what's the word, there's uh,
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: adoration what you say, yeah, appetite, Yeah, appetite, adoration, respect
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: for what I bring to these roles. And so now
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at story. I'm looking for for for stories
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: that can can can talk about our culture, whether it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: the mama role or whether it's the teacher something. But
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: I'm just I'm looking more for scripts where there's parts
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: of our culture that aren't being displayed on screen and
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: not so much. Now if I can wear hot pants
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: and carry a gun, then I'm good with that too.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: But but you know, I mean, I've always wanted to
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: do flojo story.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and so.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't remember we have to go back to
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: that because John Singleton and I were going to We're
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: trying to do it right after baby Boy, and then
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: you know, it just his his focus shifted and we
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: just didn't get it done. But again, not even just
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: the biopic of the athlete, but just the life of
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: an athlete at that time and what it took to
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: be so great and to still be a woman and
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: to be so courageous in her fashion. It's like what
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: we know, you know, we see Serena doing it, we
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: see other women doing it, but Flow Joe started it.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: And so I like those kind of stories of let's
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: let's know who we where we come from.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: That's the other side.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: I like going back into our history so that people
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: don't think it's just happening. You know, we are we are,
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: we got a bad history behind us, and I want
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: to tell those stories too.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was I think Tiffany had I feel.
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: Like she well she was supposed to play about Flow Joe.
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: I don't know what happened else because I'm supposed to
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: do it, or me and Tifty or me and Tiffany.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: I mean again, it's collaboration. So I mean, I don't know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: but that's what I'm saying. I mean, I want to
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: get that story done. She was very instrumental flow Jo.
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: I mean was very instrumental when I was little in
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: my work ethic, you know, and just you know, taking
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: care of my body and so you know, my my
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: physical existence now is a large result of her. And
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: so oh for sure, you know, Gail Divers there would
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: attract greats then and so now because I ran track
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: in high school, I pay attention to like, you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: sign your richardson and and uh, there's the stars now
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: than yeah, yeah, Shakari. So so you know what I
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: see is it doesn't change. The work ethic doesn't change.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: The generations do. But there's a mind space and a
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: work ethic that doesn't change, and that needs to be
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: seen and taught more than just seeing them at the Olympics.
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: So I'm looking for stories like that too.
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: Question what like, would you ever do a story about
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: polygamy but being being a woman who has who.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: Are?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah? How is that amazing? Amazing?
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: But thunder Neil he the guy, No, but he.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: You know, listen, you can because he's a whole different reason.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Let me let me say this, since we're bringing it up,
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: my my space in it honestly is because since I've
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: been supposed to different cultures and different religious and spirit
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: practices around the world. My thing is, I haven't I
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: haven't found a lot of men in America who who
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: are really appealing to me spiritually, physically, emotionally, mentally. So
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: my thing is, I've got the athlete that I hang
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: out with. I've got the spirit that I pray with,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: you know, I've got the person that's adventures that I
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: travel with. So it's more lifestyle than it is the
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: sexual connection. For me, it's it's more like I'm not
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: in a relationship, so I have more than one man
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: I spend time with.
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: So whatever you don't get over here, you can get
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: here here.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Now my soul is actually monogamous, Okay, But because I
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: can't find that, I don't stop.
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: Did you decide to Dibbo Dabo in polygamy after that breakup?
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: You mentioned it took you to Africa before that, before.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: That, years ago. It was before that.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: Wow, it was way before that, and so and so
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: me having a relationship after that was me trying I'm
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: not gonna again, and a large part of me was bored,
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: you know, intellectually, I was bored again.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I want to travel the world.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: I wasn't finding a lot of African American men who
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: are building their lives to do that. I even say
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: now when I meet men, I say, you know, I
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: carry five currencies on any given day.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: How many currencies do you have?
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: God?
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And that's not a flex.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: But it's intimidating.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Oh well, see here we go with ax go anywhere. Yeah,
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: but I mean think about in the pandemic, when the
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: American passport couldn't get us out of here. I got
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: to leave you because I got I got another passport,
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: I got other currencies. Even without the passport. I wasn't
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: even a dual citizen until twenty twenty two. In twenty
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: twenty I went to three different countries because I had cash.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I was prepared. I tell you, I got the email,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: so I had.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: Cash in the currency. So I mean, again, this is
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: just my life, right. It's not like I'm trying to
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: say I don't want an American man. I'm just saying
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: my international life, my global options take me into different cultures.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: And it would be cool if that man had the same.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Just on the other side, if he had a woman
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: for this, a woman for that, woman for that, and
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you for traveling.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: As long as he's okay with me doing the same thing,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have fun.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: See that's a story. Yeah, yeah, that's a story because
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's so much.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Things that we're not going to be taught because especially
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: what's going on in this country as far as you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: the book banning and.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: All types of stuff.
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: But I feel like those type of things we need
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: to see how we're going to get exposed other culture.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: It's so interesting because you know, when I start talking
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: about it, the men got offended and all of a sudden,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: I was the queen of running trains choo choo whatever, right,
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: And then the women were empowered because a lot of
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: women were saying, you know, I want I wanted to
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: explore that, but I've been afraid to or I can't
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: believe you're talking about it publicly. And I would say
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: even by in the background of it. It's not just
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: a sexual experience, right, that's what that's what us as
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: Americans think.
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: That's the first thing I thought of it. Yeah, it's not.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not just a set actual experience. It's it's
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: like I can be I can be not even sexually active.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: But but I'm still getting full from my spiritual partnership,
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: my adventure partnership, in my travel, my fitness partnership. You know,
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: the guy I pray with me don't want to hike,
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: you see what I'm saying. And the guy that wants
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: to hike and pray may not want to travel or can't.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean I stopped my life. So Neo got
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: a lot of flat uh not well not a lot.
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: But like Neo has kids, right, and his one of
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: his kids mom came out about the way that I
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: guess he's talking about his lifestyle so openly because of
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: their kids. And then they started a whole conversation about like,
• 53:38
  Speaker 8: how do you explain this to your kids? Do you
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: bring the people because there's multiple partners around the kids
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: and like all of that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: I know you have a son.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: Oh I don't have the kids. Oh, Google said you did. Really, yes,
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: they gave me one sign and everything.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Has one son.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Who is that?
• 53:55
  Speaker 10: Somebody about to come out because I'm I I finally
• 54:02
  Speaker 10: get Instagram might never seen a post a kid, but
• 54:03
  Speaker 10: I'm only.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: I thought you were a celebrity that kept your kid
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: out in the style. No, I mean this don't apply
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: to you then, But how do you feel about that conversation,
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: because I'm sure you've had that in a conversation with
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: your family members in general.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I think this.
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: You know, if you live in open and honest life,
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: then there's nothing ever to hide. And so for me,
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: I can't speak because I don't have kids, but I
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: feel like there's a respectful way if that's a lifestyle.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: I feel the same way about, you know, a gay
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: parent thing with a kid. You know, if if two
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: gay men adopt want to raise a kid, or two
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: gay women are raising a family, there's a way that
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: that family is raised and trained to understand. And so
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: even when that kid is going to school with heterosexual
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: other parents orving sleepovers, and there's a different way that
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: they're being raised and taught what that lifestyle is like.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. I don't know much about Neo's thing.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: I'm not wild with mine.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: It's not something that I promote because it's not about
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: out that. It's about me making sure that I'm full
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: and what that means as.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: A global woman.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: Global woman.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Again, she is intimidating.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Cannot figure that's the of the movie Global Global Woman.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I wanted delaware, I want to do that is not
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Here's a question. Here's a question real quick for you too.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: So I know, I know you have women, But how
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: do you feel about that woman perspective?
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Would you allow it? Would you allow it a lot?
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know what. How can you stop a woman
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: from doing what you want to do?
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: But how do you feel you would you be?
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't, I mean I would, I wouldn't personally. Can
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: you tell me why I'm too insecure?
• 55:48
  Speaker 11: Okay, that's fair woman, Woman's very proud of you.
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: Else for the same part of part of it is
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: probably for what NB said, but you wouldn't just say
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: that out loud.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Mostly, I guess we would.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Have twenty three I've been married for twenty eight.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: My woman for twenty six years.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: But I guess we would have to have the conversation,
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: like because you said you have all of these different
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: guys for different things, right, So what is it that
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not fulfilling that?
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I think that conversation has to happen first to see
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: See I love that, But if it's something that you
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: can't fulfill or you're not interested, in Do you feel
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: like she's supposed to acquiesce and compromise or are there
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: concessions there's that that compromise concession my devotion or do
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: you feel like there's concessions that can be made so
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: that you're both.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Happy and tough?
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: Man, that's tough I do because I think if presented,
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: if the other way, presented the other way, if your
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: wives came to you and was like, hey, y'all, I
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: think it would be fun for us to try puligueing
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: me for like six months, what would y'all say now?
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Because I'm not missing nothing, like I'm not that.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: It's different term relationship, what you wanted you want hike right?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: No, I mean like if.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: Said I'm okay with you having hypothetically, I'm okay with
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: us having three other wives.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: It's I'm happy for what I have. I wouldn't want that.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want like when Neil has to deal with
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: I would want to deal with. And let's be clear,
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: maybe a girlfriend.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Don't don't.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: Girlfriend. I brought it up right, I want the boy
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: I want the girlfriend. So so here's what's inter saying.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: If you're like a boyfriend, you're cool with that no,
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: he already said no.
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: But that's what i'maying.
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: That's the that's what I was trying to get into,
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: that that standard of like I think when Neo does it,
• 57:53
  Speaker 8: and people will have things to say, but it's like, oh,
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: shoot Neo. But when people hear you say it, it's like,
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: what did you say? They called you train something. Other guys,
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: yeah that I was Queen of the Train. Yeah, it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: like it's such a different way.
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, don't standard be crazy.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I stuck in combats.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, listen to the Queen of the trades talking.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: So I have a movie with Neo and I present that.
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: Everybody's like, hey, I watch what's the name of that movie?
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: And I say, it's nothing like that. That sound it's
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: called the Sound of Christmas. The lead in a Christmas
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: movie like that. But when people realize it, you know,
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: just because they're talking about Neo now, they're like, yeah,
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: we know Neo is in your movie.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: What's the name? And I was like, it's not like that.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: What I was gonna say is the difference with them
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: is you all have been in long term relationships.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: This Mountain valleys. Mountain valleys.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: No relationship is perfect course, but you know, For me,
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: I think it's also individual because I started my career
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: so young that trying to find that kind of relationship
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: in Hollywood. You know, I wanted it, I couldn't find it.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: You know, at that time, everybody that could have been
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: a potential partner, we were all trying to get our
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: foot in the door. And so whether it's athlete, producer, director, talent,
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: it wasn't happening for me like that. But I still
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: wanted my life. So it's not so much I want
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: to make sure it's clear even for the people listen.
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: It's like, it's not like I'm just saying I want
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: more than one man. That's why I said my heart
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: and my soul is monogamous. But if I can't have that,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: then what do I do?
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: That's fair like until you get it. Yeah, because we
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: found a couple of potentials for you, but then we
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: had to boot them out.
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: Is it tough because you're aj like you you are,
• 59:35
  Speaker 8: they see you and it's like, oh shoot, I watched
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: Nacci movie credits and things behind the scenes.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: You know what, I'll tell you.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: It helps dating internationally because a lot of the international
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: men don't know or they don't really care because they're
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: they're of a certain financial status themselves, a certain social
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: status themselves, and so I'm like, listen, we gotta travel, boot,
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: we got to travel. And so it's not important to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: their culture, you know. And so you know, they acknowledge
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: it and they respect it. But we're not connecting on
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: that that level. We're connecting more on spiritual level, on
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: what are we doing for the country, which is where
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: I'm at in my own self.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Appreciate joining us.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: And do not take Laura with you. She's single, she
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: can't find somebody.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Lawren's looking at me with.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: The cock jewel. Honey, thank you.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, don't settle. That's my final statement. Whoever it is,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: don't settle. Be a woman with global options.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: It's crazy how she acting like she don't got options though,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: you know, don't Valentine. They three different guys than her flowers, Charlomae,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: the three different guys in on Valentine.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: That is not true.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: It's the same guy from three different floors.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: No same floor is three different flowers. You think all
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: all these guys are the one to the same floor.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was the one closest to it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: He's lying.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning the Breakfast Club
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: H