Latest / You Don't Know Ball Podcast / Episode 99: ED ORGERON BACK AT LSU! Will the spurs make the finals? + Tigers recent slump
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- Isaac Rowe: What's going on? You don't know ball podcast. Welcome back to the show. We are ⁓ missing Alex today, but have the other two hosts, Caleb and Jack. So that's all we are. That's all we are. Just the other two. I guess to live up to got the three boys here except Alex. ⁓ Flip Alex. Good run to start the game. How does a Heisman trophy finest by the way? I know I saw that but ⁓ okay So we've had a couple of things happen since the last time we got together Caleb's got a folder of surprises for us But ⁓ the Pistons also also lost in game seven against the Cavs Yeah, it's a news coming out of the college football world that we can talk about that's pretty interesting and then I don't I don't think it was that that's probably much it so Spurs Thunder is really good. Next Cavs really good. Both series are great so far. But yeah, we can kind of start the episode with this because I've shown this on the pod before, but I'm finally giving Isaac back his card that I made for him. I made this for him so long ago. But here you go, buddy. No, bro. PSA 10. Shortless Isaac. That's my rookie card. I mean, yeah, these are pretty much like rookie basketball cards I made over covid because I was so bored and if you check the back out there's stats and stuff too from six point eight points per game what the hell was I doing out of 21 by the way but Gideon has a card Gideon has a card to average in eight point five seconds. What Gideon shot more than you did for some reason. Nine dunks in the series and most appearances in sports and that's top ten place. How about that? Yeah, cuz you all you did was dunk on people So I mean it was pretty easy to pick the plays that you know would make the top ten, but Yeah, that's finally after How many years is this seven years? I finally have this card back to you. So thank you ⁓ their first franchise win and an amazing comeback effort in game three of the South Haven Classic Started his basketball career as a center and became more of a perimeter player. So we've won one game. That was awesome. Yeah, Caleb and Alex Sign yours Caleb. Those are cool though. Those are definitely a I might post these on the Instagram. I mean dude, they're a nice little throwback. So. PSA 10. then the other thing I had was it would have been perfect if Alex was here, but I made. two copies of the champion sheet. How gay, dude? And I was where there's a spot to like sign your name right here. And I was going to give it to Alex and he could he could have hung it up or did whatever he wanted with it. Yeah, you guys would have put it in his little folder that he had made out on the weight room when I have motivation for every time I get motivation to work. We didn't put a banner out. We got it. I'll sign mine and put it up in there. We didn't put we didn't put a banner up this year. We got to get motivated. Yeah. Figure this year. This month is much shit. My bad. We got the summer series coming up. Yeah. Get ready for that. We could do a second spring series as well. Summer don't start till June 21st I guess so. A month from now by the way. But yeah that's about it for that. I just thought it'd be cool to at least show Isaac that his card does exist and it's in his in his. Now that I'm looking at it, I wish it didn't exist. That was back when you were still learning the game. So it's all right. You're way better now. Well, I think my prime was about two years ago when Jack and I first started to play together. Now we're pushing it. I think my prime was about sophomore year of gym class basketball. I would agree with that, too, because we played together in that team, Dude, Jack, you had some insane days where I felt like you did not miss a three. I had some good days and I can't shoot like that anymore though. Don't be saying that yet. I got the whole summer to figure out how much time did you have to warm up before we started playing? We gave you like two minutes. Like four shots. All right. I'm I was all good. You guys are running sets and Jack and I were like, I don't even know what we're going to run. ⁓ we were we were. ⁓ over prepared for for y'all at least offensively defensively I didn't know what was gonna work but yeah offensively we had a good game plan going so it took us two games to figure out what to do but you know if we would have went seven I think you guys had a chance to at least take like two games dude, we, if we would have won game three, that was a, like we weren't winning. was just giving her all. Yeah, that was, that was us giving her everything we had left. So it's, was, it still wasn't enough. I mean, Jack and I had it back. The best games of the entire series and we still lost. Well, I thought when Jack hit that fadeaway to I was like, dude, you got to be shitting me. How the hell that shit just went for the layup. Well, exactly. That's what I was thinking, because Jack hit that and he made it thirty seven thirty two thirty four or something like that. And then Alex and I come back and we tie it and you should just went to the paint. Well, I was on a heat check because three. Well, because because if you would just went to the paint, tried to score, we were going to follow you. That was the game plan. Yeah. If you got in the paint. We were just going to follow you. So it came down to free throws, honestly, if you would have did that. I had a chance to win it on three throws, But I suck at them. Good work, Kafka. I he's already got more touchdowns than Atlas ever did at running back. We should have never just changed him. shouldn't. All right. So if you haven't checked those videos out, they're on our channel. They are the three games separated. So it's in the basketball playlist. So go check that out. ⁓ Let's talk a little bit about the Pistons and the NBA playoffs playoffs as a whole right now I mean obviously the Pistons lost in game seven by a by a lot spider and Harden and chef Harden, I mean It was definitely something to see ⁓ the Pistons fight back and tie the series up and have all the confidence the world and just get their Teeth kicked in at home. This is even more embarrassing than just losing. so Whoa, that move was insane that's been moved there. I hope they show that replay that was crazy But yeah, I I know people like to complain with the Cavs You just never know what Cavs team you're gonna get I think you can make the same argument with the Pistons You just never really know what version of them you're gonna get in game seven. You got a team that not only could ⁓ Not only could not get past the Cavs pressure that they were putting defensively, you also got a Jalen Durin that just, again, did not look engaged. And we're still going to sign him this summer. I hope we do. He's a good center. He's great in the regular season. So as long as he can keep getting us into playoffs, and maybe he just needs another year of development to be playoff ready next time, ⁓ either way, I hope we keep him. And Pistons, there's just an obvious lack of a not second dominant ball handler in shooting. And that's what it really came down to. Cavs, all around, on paper, they're the better team. And that's what happened on game seven. ⁓ I wish the game would have been closer. I had to turn it off in the third quarter. I couldn't take it anymore. But like J.B. Bicker's staff said, I'm still I can't as a Pistons fan view this season as a disappointment. I'm still very happy with how they played and ⁓ what they were able to do getting the one seed and Kade taking another jump getting rid of Ivy making that decision finally and ⁓ I just hope this offseason we're able to take a take a swing at something smart and get even better. What are the chances of Devin Booker coming to Detroit? Say pretty low. ⁓ I think Trajan Langdon is not thinking of going that big because If we get Devin Booker, the trade package is going to have to be crazy. ⁓ And when you're trying to sign Jalen Duren and Asar Thompson, both of them back, because we want them both, that doesn't leave a lot of room for money. So I think we might be getting someone more like a Trey Murphy, who's not only a knockdown shooter, another good ball handler. So that'd be great. Or just someone else on Trey Murphy level. We don't need another superstar like Devin Booker quite yet. ⁓ It would be nice though. It would be very nice. Yeah, I think the chances are pretty low though, but we'll see what happens. I don't know. I'm not treasuring Langdon. I don't know what he's thinking. But we do have some contracts we can move around, which is nice. But we might have to get rid of like beef stew or something, which I don't want to do that. I mean, I like the core we have. It's just we need more shooting flat out. And I was talking to, I think I was talking to Connor about this and I was like, we wouldn't, I mean, we would have been. easy finals out of the east if we only had Malik Beasley. If we add Malik Beasley to this team, the shooting immediately goes up. That's another 13 to 17 points a game guy. And in the playoffs, he probably would have averaged an easy 20 points. And it's just tough. There's a world out there where the allegations don't come out against him that he was betting or whatever. Even if he was, I don't care. Like his shooting. that he provided for us last year. If we had that this year, it would have just been incredible. I mean, it would have been something to see. So it's tough. But at the end of the day, the Detroit team that's probably going to end up doing the best this year, unless the Lions really. I mean, if we include the Lions from last year, the Detroit team that's going to end up doing the best in a minute, unless the Tigers have a crazy comeback. Boy, they seven games under. 500 right now. Yeah. Yeah. The game I went to though last weekend on Friday they won. So that was good. That was their that was like one win in their last eight games or something like that. So I called them on a good night. But yeah I don't know. They're they're looking rough. They've been injured though. They got a bunch of their really good hitters out school bulls obviously had surgery on something. So he's going to be out for a minute ⁓ going through a rough patch. We'll see what they can do. It's not looking too great. Verlander pitch more than once this year. I he's I really think he's only pitched once to be honest. He got hurt too though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying like he's more there for like the veteran presence though I don't think they're seriously like wanting him to pitch a lot and we saw what happened when he did so ⁓ He gave up three homers six runs What was I gonna ⁓ yeah, so it kind of reminds me of when like Chauncey billups got signed to the Pistons for the 2014 season. And he was 39, 40 years old at that point. But obviously, a Piston legend still playing. So it's like he played in a bunch of preseason games, but he actually didn't ever get playing time in the regular season. So that's kind of what the Verlander signing looks like to me. It'd be like if the Red Wings picked up someone really old that they used to have. How old do hockey players normally, what's the age max that you've seen? Like mid 40s? about forty isn't that like the leading yeah leading top like we'd score and angel is still playing thirty eight or thirty nine i thought he was older I wonder who the oldest hockey player ever was. He was a Gordie Howe. That's got to be harder to play when you're older. Oh, my God. couldn't imagine. football or basketball, though. And football is pretty hard, but. Depends on what you are. I think if you're an offensive lineman or something, that should have been a play. I think if you're an offensive lineman or something, because we've seen all linemen stay in the league till 38, 39. was like 38, 40. Yeah. Gordie Howe played till he was 52. Are you shitting me? That's crazy. Let's go. Oh, he might. Oh, you guys get back. Yeah, he did. Same guy. Let's go. Good break. Good work. One. Um, Aaron Rodgers kind of going off that Aaron Rodgers decided to come back for one more year. He's 39. He's, he's going to be playing for the Steelers. This is his last season. He did confirm that. So wow. Let's see. Raj one more year. So that's going be nice to see if the Steelers get a see if he can put something together. Yeah. Let's see if he can. make them nine and eight again. Yeah. There's people called like it's gonna be the Steelers Packers Super Bowl. It's gonna be Aaron Rodgers playing the Packers. The only TV hasn't beaten yet. I'm like dude chill out. But yeah he joins Mike McCarthy and that whole Steelers squad for one more year. I mean he was with them last year and he wasn't bad. It's just interesting to me. You'd think an offense with Aaron Rodgers at the helm would be more explosive, they're just really not. don't truly I don't think they really have that many weapons, though. They have they have that one small receiver that's pretty good. And then they have a God they're probably they they have like why can I only think Chase Claypool right now? Johnson? No, he's gone to his man. No, they got Roman Wilson. They got they got rid of George Pickens. So I don't know who they have at where I'd receive it right now. You got to get him some weapons. That's really the only, like, dude, even with the Jets, I feel like he was slinging it more. Because he had Lazard, Adams for a little bit on the Jets. had Garrett Wilson, you know. The Steelers wanted to pick, what's his name? ⁓ they got DK Metcalf. ⁓ yeah. have DK Metcalf. Yeah, but he's not like your shot guy. They wanted to pick that USC kid this year. Lemon? Lemon. Makai Lemon. ⁓ They recall they're on the phone with him and then the Philadelphia Eagles traded up and picked them That's ultimate like get moment but ⁓ that's tough but ⁓ so That's the news from the NFL right now. And ⁓ really all I got for that sport. ⁓ did have an interesting like this involves the Lions but just looking at the path the Pistons went on does it not remind you of like Like imagine So the Pistons, right? They were the worst team in the NBA. Lions, they go 3 and 13 that one year. And then the year after that, they go 9 and 8, but they knock the Packers out of the playoffs. And I remember watching that game live at Stan's Tacos. I was so lit as I was working. anyway, then the Pistons the next season after that, they go face the Knicks in the playoffs, play pretty well, ultimately lose. And then the Lions go get like, they have a really good year. They won like 11 games. We lose in the NFC championship game. And then the Pistons, the next year, we lose in game seven to the Cavs. So it's like, I feel like the Pistons are following a very Lions trajectory right now. Like it's kind of funny how those franchises both, I don't know, just Pistons loss reminds me of the Lions losing that NFC championship game. Like it felt like the East was wide open this year and Pistons really had a chance at it and they just, couldn't do it. So. Hopefully we're able to get back to this again next year. East doesn't get too much better, especially with Tatum being back and the Celtics getting a whole nother year. I don't know. We'll see. I just saw a lot of parallels with that Lions loss and the Pistons loss there. I feel like it's just good to see that Detroit sports are thriving again. I don't know. I wouldn't say they're all thriving. Wait, which one? guess. You could not. You're not saying the Lions thrived. They've been thriving over a five year period. Well, yeah. That's fair to say the Tigers made the playoffs. They were one game from the World Series. They Pistons are one game from being in it. What is it? The East Championship? Yeah. East Conference Eastern Conference Championship. The Lions are one game from the Super Bowl three years ago or two years ago and three three. Yeah. Because then they lost as a once once you did a commander's. So I mean Detroit sports are in. You know, at least they're competitive. I think that's a good way to look at it. If you would have asked me six months ago, would have said, yeah, they're thriving for sure. Or I would have said, if you would have asked me six months ago because Pistons were the one seed, Red Wings might have been the one seed. Red Wings were doing great. The Tigers were looking great because we had just signed Fromber. We got all our guys coming back, especially from last year. Yes, for how bad they ended it. Is that Bodhi? No, it's Kronk. That's crazy the I would say like even with the Red Wings like being below average. Sucking dick. Yeah, that. It's still been pretty fun to watch Detroit sports again because if you said that six or seven years ago, there's people like, yeah, I want to live in just to watch them lose or I'm going to Tiger's game knowing that they're going to lose. Yeah, so I mean you're going to watch them compete now and that's something as I got Detroit fan base we could Appreciate because we couldn't have done that right I mean see it seeing seeing the Pistons like playoff atmosphere again this year. That's got it was sweet man, especially for the Cav series Magic series they didn't seem too loud and partially I think those because the Pistons never really got a game at home on a weekend night but Yeah, dude, the game seven atmosphere, though, for both series was electric. And it really comes down to us losing game five against the Cavs. We should have won that one. ⁓ And then I think we would have won the series. yeah, I think it's like 80 % of teams that win game five end up winning the series. So it's very tough to come back from that. Yeah But series that we have now though Nixon Who is it? Sorry, Nick's tell me Nixon calves calves and then we have Spurs Thunder, which is really good series. Honestly split 1-1 right now when B went off in game one And then you seen us. Have you seen us tape Jack Wembe? Yeah, Wembe went off a game watching the tape Good blocking. my god. Jelly Bean was wide open. then hit that three from about half court. Dude, that shot was ridiculous. Curry looking like a. Dude, you could tell with the commentators too, because it was like, ⁓ my god. was Reggie Jackson. No, not Reggie Jackson. Reggie Miller and the two commentators he's normally with, which Jamal Crawford is one of them too, they were speechless, bro, with how well he was playing, especially with that shot. I thought the Spurs were going to blow that one. with their inexperience. But dude, Wemby, he went and was a monk for a couple months, dude. He's ready for this. Yeah. He's playing unbelievable right now. Chet Holmgren just is locked up. I feel like he hasn't done anything this series. mean. Kind of tough for him because not only does he have that assignment on offense, he's good from the three. He's always going to be a good stretch four or stretch five, depending on what they have him in as. As far as him going and scoring in the paint. Yeah. mean, anybody in the paint really. What are you going to do? Yeah. I mean, Isaiah Hartenstein was that was named for Thunder. He was holding them the whole entire game following him. And guaranteed they didn't call for it. That was their strategy for game two. And it worked a little bit. And also Wembe I think just looked a little gassed. But their game, Alex Caruso is he might be the Wembe stopper, honestly. Caruso did a great job on Wemby in game one and then not only what he did on defense I think on offense Caruso has been their biggest weapon because he stretches Wemby out of the paint because basically when Migname was just keeping one foot in the paint at all times and Alex Caruso had 30 something points in game one off the bench he had seven threes and then in game two he came back and had 23 more points and like five or six threes so Alex Caruso stretching out Wembe and the Thunder players are going to have to make their threes in order for to get Wembe to get out of the pain a little bit. And that's what we saw in game two. Their guys were hitting threes. Shea was able to get in the lane more, score more points, draw more fouls. Obviously, he was drawing so many freaking fouls. was unreal. He's probably shooting free throws right now. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. ⁓ Foul for getting cut off in traffic, man. So he's got a ref in the back seat. Just ready for it. Yeah. It's unbelievable how much he flops. My roommate from senior year of college, he sent me a DM today and he's like, I can't stand how this dude plays basketball. It's like, and he said like, if you know you're going to foul him, you might as well make it count. Just like punch him right in the nuts or something. hates him because of that. And then he wins the MVP to put the icing on the cake, which I thought I should have been Kade or when Wembe and Yana. I don't think Cade had a good enough year. Wembe certainly could have had it. Cade played better the year before, honestly. Stats looked better. He's got to improve the three pointer. And Cade's three. It looks like he's just shooting. I'm so lazy. I don't like that. It never looks like the ball comes off his hands right as he shoots. What did he shoot? What was his percentage this year? I think it was low 30s. You know you if you're gonna win MVP that's got to be at least mid 30s 50 40 90 What's Steph shooting right now Steph's probably shooting around high 30s 40 40 Man, I'm shooting like seven. I feel I'm like shooting 75 right now. That's I'd say Yeah, Jack shooting 100 from three Yeah, okay sell from our three games that we shot together. ⁓ yeah, you can't tell Combined we I think I think I shot 40 % and I'm sure you know, you know, cool cool, bro Thanks. Blood. Okay. ⁓ Anything else you want to say about the NBA right now? Nah, man, the Cavs, you blew it. The Cavs, you blew it. In game one, did you guys see the comeback? Yes. had Brunson. Dude, I watched the game back at work the other day. Watching it in real time was honestly nuts. Jalen Brunson is that dude. He's him. And it makes me mad because he took the Pistons out of the playoffs last year. ⁓ my god, I would have loved to see Pistons and Knicks again. Which I'm sure we will at some point. But dude, the next are kind of fun to watch basketball again for. Yeah. The time where they were just awful every year, dude, like it was insane because the whole game, they really couldn't find a rhythm from three. And then all of a sudden you sub in Landry Shamit. Cavs cannot hit a shot. Everything that needed to miss for them did. And then you had James Harden and Donovan Mitchell both making tough shots there down the end. It didn't matter. Jalen Brunson with a tough pull up. Tough three Landry Shamett had a corner three that bounced that bounced on the rim like three times before it went in. Yes, I did. Then they tied the game and dude, Nick's just could not miss after that. And I've never heard the garden so loud. It was crazy. Garden is just like an electric place to play. I know. And when they go back to Cleveland, it's going to sound so much quieter to the land. It is hard. It's hard to believe that I saw this on Instagram that like Madison Square Garden is behind. ⁓ the Celtics arena for like loudest fan base because Celtics get loud. Yeah. But like that garden was rocking. ⁓ it was that night. That night. I was like, holy shit. How does it's kind of unreal. How does something get louder than this? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I would I would say an underrated team for how loud they get. Utah Jazz. Yeah. When they were when they were good with Donovan Mitchell, they got goals. Yeah. Dude, Joe Ingalls, Donovan Mitchell. It's just the ice. Oh, OK, bet. It's just ice, man, bro. released. Shabang. Y'all listen to Shabang? No. It's a good-ass song. Hot take. I didn't think that album was good at all. I didn't think it was amazing, but it certainly had some bangers on it. For how hyped it was, it was not that great. Well, that's all the Drake fan boys. Damn, we're being aggressive. We're going for it. It's the third time we've done it. Continue on what you were saying about the Knicks or whatever. Well, I was jazz. ⁓ what a catch. Dude, that's ⁓ I would say. So I would say the jazz are an underrated one. I would say another one that's underrated, the heat get very, very loud as well. They have a loud arena. If you watch Jimmy Butler's playoff run in twenty twenty three, you'd get you'd understand what I'm talking about, like what he did to the Bucks and how loud that arena got. Man, as an eight seed to that's crazy. Incredible. Him and Duncan Robinson, right? Yeah, Duncan was on that team. He was a big part of that team. Hero. Hero. That boy got a song out of that. Dude, he got a song his rookie year, bro. Jack Harlow was really doing it. Has Jack Harlow even dropped anything recently or no? I think he drops like singles every now and then. I don't know about a full studio album, but. Man, yeah, he needs to get back on the mic. Yeah, he does. Not that he needs to see no now no big man big Mac. Not yeah But ⁓ graduate graduation graduation. We need a part two. Yeah graduation from college All right, let's get into something a difference for so football news wise let's go let's go baby And order on it's going back to LSU as a coach football news wise let's go let's go baby And order on it's going back to LSU as a coach Really got hired back by laying kiffin in the sand. So he's going back to LSU as if you guys can remember He was the head coach of the 2019 LSU team won the national championship Joe Burrow to chase Justin where where'd he go? Where'd he leave? he got fired fired the year after and then bringing his girlfriend's kid to come practice with the team He didn't do anything for three years and now he's back What that's the way to do it. How old was this kid? I don't know like 15 Really got hired back by laying kiffin in the sand. So he's going back to LSU as if you guys can remember He was the head coach of the 2019 LSU team won the national championship Joe Burrow to chase Justin where where'd he go? Where'd he leave? he got fired fired the year after and then bringing his girlfriend's kid to come practice with the team He didn't do anything for three years and now he's back What that's the way to do it. How old was this kid? I don't know like 15 think good God, but ⁓ good to see that. ⁓ pretty cool. I like that's pretty cool What's he coaching? ⁓ don't think that's been specified yet. I'm guessing O line D line somewhere in there ⁓ at LSU. I know ⁓ Wade has gotten a lot of flack for how ⁓ recruiting ⁓ the basketball team there. ⁓ yeah, cuz ⁓ Their whole roster is like 22 to 23, 25 year old guys. That's what you got to do now. And RJ Lewis has gotten a lot of flak because he literally got drafted to the, have been undrafted, but he suited up for the Celtics this year. And now he's committed to LSU. How does that even happen? How does that even work? Seriously? It might've been pre-season. not sure. I haven't looked into it all, but there's pictures of him out there with a real Celtic jersey on. He's wearing a Celtic uniform. Yeah, so you know, you guys know Marie Spates. Yes. No, he posted something today. It was like a graphic and he's like he went to Florida back in the day. And he this is a center that played with Steph. He won the championship in 2015 with the Warriors. Yeah. He but he posted a graphic today is like I'm. I'm committing to Florida ⁓ to play out my two years of eligibility. And I looked at the comments. It's all like SEC players. And they're like, this real? This real? ⁓ But it's just funny because that's really what it's come to now. It's obviously not real. But it's just crazy. The whole legal and eligibility thing is just so messy right now. It's almost like too far gone now. Because you've given it to, I mean, they gave Trinidad his eligibility. Yeah. Yeah. And then another story is Brendan Storesby from Texas Tech who got literally caught for betting on games in college when he was on Indiana on his own games to keep in mind. And now he's got a lawyer and a whole team pushing for him to be eligible this season. Like that's completely against the NCAA. And then the lawyer that was originally supposed to do his case was a Texas Tech alum and huge like Texas Tech fan. So he was supposed to like be the lawyer, the lawyer, the judge. But he just stepped down because of like conflict of interest or whatever. But yeah, I just think it's like ridiculous of how legal all these sports have gotten now. Yeah, because 10 years ago, even like even in the first 14 playoff came out, it was not even close. Well, there's a UCLA player, Sky Clark. ⁓ Yeah. He's trying to get a fifth year right now. I think it's a fifth year. Yeah. He's trying to get a fifth year because, and see, here's the thing. He didn't redshirt. He played as a freshman right away. So that's out of the table. But this senior season at UCLA, he missed eight or nine games. So it's like, He didn't take a medical redshirt? No. Why? He started the season off. got injured with a hamstring thing, and they were trying to fix it quickly, and it kept lingering on. Then he ended up finally coming back at the end. He played a big part in the Big Ten tournament, and he played a big part in the semi-big part in the March Madness tournament. Now he's in the transfer portal trying to get eligibility back to go transfer somewhere else. So I don't know, it's just like, like. Obviously, I'd love that for him because he played for you know, I've watched him play for the past two years ⁓ But he transfer him See, I don't know because he we're not winning at UCLA Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I don't know it's just interesting because You know like why is there even a case for him though because he didn't red shirt he played four years He should have a degree by now like sounds like tough luck, dude. Yeah going to the NBA. Six years ago, wouldn't have even heard of this guy being able to try to come back. Like dude, have been lucky to get his fourth year. Right. Dude, would be like lucky to even afford like a lawyer to even fight this. Now they're just, ⁓ you lawyer up, asshole. I'm coming for it all. So it's just ridiculous, I feel like. And if anything, I think college football needs to start like having contracts or something. I don't I don't really know because. the amount of like bouncing around. mean a fifth year and fifth year eligibility stuff. I think you should just stop at five. Yeah that's that's as high as there's some guys out here getting seven or seven seven and eight. I mean Trinidad this is a sixth year in college. That's crazy. So but I get why he stayed or at least got it granted because he was read. But hey he's a dog. Do you think he probably rode the bench his first couple years as Ferris or something? That's that's what he did. Was he hurt? Oh, my God. He got that off. wasn't hurt. He just rode the bench. Oh, his first year. I think it's second. Maybe second year he got hurt. But it would have to be a red shirt and an injury. Yeah, that's what it would have to be. Yeah. Or COVID year or COVID. No, he went to college the same year as us. Yeah, he wouldn't have had the go. So we were the year after COVID years. Well, we would be entering our sixth year of college if we were still in there. Right. So he wouldn't have to have a red shirt and that if he got a COVID year, he just have to have one. Well, 2021, 22 wasn't I did not. COVID though, was it? They for our freshman year. Our freshman year. didn't get a COVID year because we were the year after those all those guys. Yeah. My senior year, we got rid of all the COVID guys. It was just what was left. I know. I they were handing those things out left and they were that whole. maybe he got one then. We'll have to look it up and see what it is. So yeah, I think it's an injury, though, in my opinion. Redshirt injury? Yeah. So that's pretty much it for college football right now. There's one coach that had a really good argument on it, college basketball coach. think it might have been Calipari. Yeah. It Because whoever coaches Louisville, or it be St. John's. That's Patino. Rick Patino. Yeah. He had a really good press conference. The godfather. He had a really good press conference about it. And he's like, yeah, you get, here's my thing. You get you get five. think he said you're five years and that's it. And the only option for a fifth year is either a red shirt or an injury. That's it. And that's like, yeah, it really is that simple. Like, yeah. Why does Trinidad get to? Yeah, it should be a red shirt. It should be one or the other ⁓ that gives you the fifth year. You shouldn't be able to use both to get a six year. You know, if a second string running back got this. Mike had the same case, exact same case as Trinidad. He would be getting a job right now. Yeah. So I mean, it's selling insurance. Yeah. selling insurance or selling a car or working some sort of job. So damn it, Bodie. This is a close game for how it's been going. It's 14, seven right now. Two minutes and 37 seconds left at Washington. We're getting the ball back. The ball back. So whatever. ⁓ We've had two bad injuries, though. Yeah. We'll see a Big Macs back in the game. ⁓ good punt. Damn, at the three. ⁓ boy. It's just saying good. Big Macs not in. All right, get us out of here, Kafka. My god yard. Yeah, at least their linebackers hurt Let's see what else is going on in the sports world Jack you got anything No, not that I can think of Damn didn't know who ended up winning the Masters. No one safety boys ⁓ ⁓ Yeah, that's what I meant to say some England like guy from England. I don't even know his name. He has iron covers He wears two gloves when he's driving he Go go. ⁓ my god. ⁓ my god. Good good work, Kaka But that just won us the game right there. The guy who won the PGA championship was ⁓ Unknown and coming into this weekend. So speed finished in 21st 25th, you lost a boy. I lost some money. Good bet. Yeah, it was worth it This dude last episode you said you ain't getting five dollars He was right I feel like it is in 2014. He's got to come back. Was he like the highest odds to win it? No. Oh, that's why He needs the PGA championship to like complete his Grand Slam. Oh, so you thought he might and I was like it if he wins I guess win big I guess yeah Well, they're blitzing us hardcore right now. Rye. Yeah, Aaron Rye from England, right? ⁓ no, it's English. and then he has covers for all his irons too. So it's just like the most like proper, proper. like, no, that's gay. OCD like kind of golfer I could think of. Yeah. ⁓ you got to pick that, brother. But yeah, he won the BGA championship. There's another golf event that's happening right now that a lot of like Scottie Scheffler, Jordan Spieth, and then ⁓ Like a couple of other big names are playing right now if they're like highest round right now is eight under Wow that and the highest I think what one last weekend was like 10 or nine under so we have eight under already through this course. So I like whatever but ⁓ god, there's really not much going. I mean, hey actually here's some news This is episode 99 of the you don't know podcast show. next weekend will be our 100th episode special. We have no clue what we're going to do for that yet. So bear with us. We'll probably do what we do every season that we started. We started the same thing with season zero season one and then season two. We'll probably do a fancy draft. But yeah I guess we are due for some sort of draft. Yeah it's been a while. This is usually the time we do it. So Maybe that'll be a college football one, it will be wait for that like chat GVT see that was college football Are we doing it? Yeah, we're have to do new new players. Yeah. All right, cuz Jeremiah loves gun and Yeah, he won you a whole lot of nothing. Yeah, You had him. Oh, I had he won me a lot of shit My best player was without a doubt funky Kong though Who is your best player Jack? Do you remember any of them? cake on the car i will say who was my legend that i picked for quarterback i feel like that helped me a lot i don't know who was texas is quarterback ovens young yet vince young vince young won me a lot of games needed for i'd cake club neck as my quarterback i wonder if i'll be able to find the i wonder if i can find the document i had like the history of it I do a mean before my draft. I'd be like I got Bo Callahan is my quarterback. Ever watch that movie. No Vonte Mack is the DN. I got to find it's been a while since we've done that. It's got an episode. So maybe you know what it is getting towards the dead season at the NBA playoffs and because we're not going to spend a whole episode talking about golf but we will definitely have some chat GBT seasons coming up here which will be A lot of fun. We'll get the HDMI cord out of the PlayStation and project our... Is your computer having HDMI? Like adapter? I have an adapter for it. Yeah. Okay. So we'll do that. Yeah, we can do something like that. All right. Yeah, I have it right here. Okay. All time record seasons one through four. I went 26, 11 and three first place. Isaac's team went 20, 18 and two. actually not terrible in second Alex's team went 15 22 and 3 and Jack's team went 15 23 and 2 So I mean record like we only had an 11 game difference win wise For in season 1, know, it's crazy in season 1 Isaac had the best record 6 and 4. Yeah, I do remember that and then I sold in the first round You lost to three and seven Alex Jack, you went five and five that year. And then I beat you by three points in OT on the first round. And then I beat Isaac 38, 34. And then this awesome image was generated from that. Genghis Khan is hugging who? ⁓ Nick Saban. ⁓ That is so funny. ⁓ man. Yeah. Season two, I didn't lose at all. I went seven, ⁓ and three. Jack, you had the second best record for four and two. There you go. Alex went 3 4 and 3 Isaac you went 1 7 and 2. Yep that sounds right. The episode of us reacting to see it in two results with him is so funny. It's like dude I lost again. Jack's like Isaac has won a game. I remember that. Dude and then first round I beat Isaac by seven. Second round Jack loses to. Dude Jack you've had some tough first round losses man. You lost to Alex 31 to 26. And then I beat Alex by three. Season three, pretty basic results. Semi-finals I beat Jack by six and then Alex beat Isaac by three I Think those kid club makes MVP or two if I'm not mistaken. Yep, that sounds about that sounds about right Yeah, he did have like one really good. No, it was this it was that season four cuz you and I both went seven and three ⁓ yeah Alex went four and six Jack two and eight Awesome Jack was so good and then ⁓ Playoffs. we just did the last place. Didn't make playoffs. So Isaac versus Alex. Isaac finally beat Alex by three to make the final. And then I beat Isaac in the championship. I think the thing we've got to start looking into is if that computer was playing bias. Because the biggest thing, if we do this whole drafting again, if you start winning. two titles in a row or three times. don't we just should we should we do mine again or maybe I can just make a completely different account. No bias or whatever. Like I'll not even make the name of the account. You have a upgrade version of chat. I did at that point. Yeah. But I literally said like before every seed and I was like no bias no bias. I would always put that into the prompt. I swear to God. So I still want. Dude my team was kind of cracked. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. What was that? What was that Kong named guy funky funky Kong? He was a monster. Yeah, he was I might just take Donkey Kong as my Nose tackle it. No, got to come up with a new idea. Like I'm not taking funky Kong again. No, we all got it all Luigi. Yeah, we got a restart and all the teams fresh start You got your two mean picks. You got your two legend picks and you got all the rest of them that So you got a defensive legend, an offensive legend, and then a meme pick on both sides? Yeah. OK. I thought it was just one meme pick throughout the whole team and then one legend. No, because the memes were on both sides. Oh, yeah, because we did offense one episode and then defense one. Because my meme pick on offense was like a small person. Lesnar. No, he was on defense. Was it? Oh, Who was it? Dude, who was my meme pick on offense? Yeah, yours was a... Oh he ended up becoming one of your coaches Bruce Willis. No Shane Gillis. Yes Shane Gillis. I tied in. Do you remember who yours was Jack. Yeah. Oh yeah. I was Chris Hansen. He was a corner corner. So that's probably why I started losing. I forget who my offensive one was though. Oh yeah. I know you had Stalin. It's Stalin's coach. Yeah. No you wouldn't let me have Stalin. I did. I mean you did it for the draft but I. I I had to go gang is kind of a no he had gang is kind of I'd get it I think we know you stay we let you keep that you keep it but we didn't say it much and Stalin yeah yeah I know I know well let's just go with the PG one who's my other coach I had to you had to like whack coach was a kill the hunter something like that I'm trying to think of who you picked on offense though for your meme does it say my team yeah say right here. ⁓ yeah, dude, that's doing the draft was fun too. Like what chat would come up with dude, like Alex got getting the entire 2019 LSU secondary with like, yeah, pick number two. That was crazy. That didn't help much. I like big JJ McCarthy as his legend. That might've been why he didn't do too well. I mean, he's gonna be pissed when I tell him. ⁓ my god, dude. This is crazy. I'm totally right. You did this. had Luigi Mangione. ⁓ yeah. Wide receiver three. He was actually like a stunt too. He was pretty good. I think chat thought it was like Luigi from Mario though. That always said he did like dances and stuff. Like this is not the same. I had some good means. So silent killer meme pic. Yeah, really? ⁓ Who's my coaches? You had Joe Paterno. ⁓ yeah. No one in your team lost. Joe Paterno is a good coach. Terrible team. Not a good guy. Who am I? He can coach. It was a you. Do you have it? Yeah. You had John Gruden. OK. ⁓ Gruden. Your defensive coordinator was Marcus Freeman. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ wait. No, I didn't fire him. ⁓ alex's coaches connor stallions as defensive coordinator was derrick roe ⁓ michael at my head coach is nicks a band and the cut the coordinator gang is cut and then you had to roe sucks your legend on defense i don't know if you never did you ever had to first or at first overall kodiak barnes and then tank Kodiak Barnes dude I remember him. Who had the really good linebackers like a cyborg tank. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. first two back to back first overall picks. Well yeah I guess you wouldn't right. ⁓ I know you had a I think Mr. Stitches who picked him. That was you. Yeah he ended up being really good for me. It was really good. Who was my like draft pick. It was a I think it was like the moment where you're like deciding between who to pick between Mr. Stitches and whoever else you're like, oh, but I might want to take Mr. Stitches. That part is so funny. I would try to find who it was. Oh, you took stretch McGee. Oh, as a receiver. Yeah. Or a tight end. He was a tight end. But who is your season three draft pick? I can't remember. I think it was like offensive line. I think that's what it was. Oh yeah, the 2005 USC offensive line. Drafted third overall in season four. And then Stretch McGee drafted third overall. Alex had Jelly Bean light the 4-9 99 overall create a player meme peg He ended up being okay for him Wow. Yeah. Good times. Good times at the chat. You beat you draft. We might have to rewatch the funny moments. Oh, you know, that's what's going to be our 100 special. It's going to be a complete draft offense and defense. Same episode. We're going to have timers. We're going to have we're all going to be here. It's going to a good, too. And good time. I'll do my research. Yes. A research. Oh, Is this going to be a big draft for all of us? Yeah. Jack's got his revenge season to get so But I don't know if I'm going with smart meme picks or just like really funny meme picks at end. think you got to make them smart and funny. That's the thing. Like Chris Hansen, that's funny as hell, but he's probably not going to be a good corner. Hey, dude, he's locked down, Dude, I put the things you said because obviously you said a good reason for him being a corner, but genuinely Chris Hansen is not going to be a good corner. But I also wrote reason, no fly zone. No fly zone. And then for Luigi Mangione, put silent killer. Oh, man. true as the CEO of United Healthcare. Can't ask him. He's got cat unreachable. Yeah. But all right. I think that's pretty much it for this episode. I think it's pretty good for us. Sorry. Got me excited for this draft. Now he's giving you something to look forward to at next episode. It's gonna be fun. It's the 100 special. So yeah we are all looking forward to that. And yeah just research up. Yeah. Give me a it's gonna be a good time. and then we'll start doing the seasons right after that. We'll do I think what we're going to do is we're going to a list episode and then we'll do a season episode. Yeah. Just alternate through that until we get to like actual sports content. Yeah. That'll work. So there's your schedule for next three months. Maybe next like month and a half. But yeah. But all right. I think that's going to do it for this episode. Boise anything else say? Nah, dude. I've talked enough Jackie good. Have a good one y'all go You know, I really would love to see the Spurs win. they were one of my final team So I'd to get one right at least I think Spurs would be fun that team the watch win a title Spurs Knicks finals any any finals with the Knicks dude do not put the Cavs in the finals I swear to God God who's leading that series is it's all it's next Tuesday and Tuesday night all right, so Nixon Spurs, let's get it done. ⁓ Real quick is Memorial Day weekend. So happy Memorial Day. Thank you for your service to our veterans. ⁓ yeah, I don't know what else to say. thank you for your service. you. Making this country free and great. So appreciate it. Appreciate it. I think that's it. All right. Remember, we don't know ball. You don't know ball. We all don't know ball. We'll see you in the next one. Peace. Peace out. Home Scouts. ⁓