Latest / The DEX Show: A Show for IT Change Makers / 🎤🎤 Live in Boston: Data, DEX, and a Few Fist Fights @ Nexthink Experience
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome it, change makers to the Deck Show with Tim
- 0:05Speaker 1: Flower and Tom McGrath. Let's get into it.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Welcome to the Deck Show, Welcome to Experience Boston. It's
- 0:12Speaker 2: ever a round of applause, everybody lovely to see while
- 0:17Speaker 2: we're a little bit worried there that are London going
- 0:20Speaker 2: to embarrass Boston, but.
- 0:22Speaker 3: You've made it up for it. Hello, Tim, good to
- 0:24Speaker 3: see man. How you doing?
- 0:25Speaker 2: Oh okay, fi bump lovely lovely? So who here listens
- 0:30Speaker 2: to the Deck Show. We're a v decks podcast. We've
- 0:32Speaker 2: got a few hands up. That's good to see. Thank
- 0:34Speaker 2: you put your hands it's polite. No one's gonna no
- 0:37Speaker 2: one's gonna test you on it, okay, just just that's great.
- 0:40Speaker 2: But we are a weekly podcast and we have, you know,
- 0:42Speaker 2: hundreds of fantastic guests every single year. Well that doesn't
- 0:46Speaker 2: quite work out mathematically, but you get you get my point.
- 0:49Speaker 2: And we're incredibly excited. I think the fourth year in
- 0:52Speaker 2: a row, the fifth year in a row that we're
- 0:54Speaker 2: doing live and experience. We've done London, now we're in Boston.
- 0:58Speaker 2: We're all excited. It's the biggest deck event of the year.
- 1:01Speaker 2: How you doing, Tim Flower, I'm doing a good time.
- 1:05Speaker 4: You've been shot out of a cannon this morning. It's
- 1:07Speaker 4: really cool to see.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Well at a round up some audience, this is can
- 1:12Speaker 3: you hear us?
- 1:13Speaker 5: Okay?
- 1:13Speaker 3: By the way, everybody is that? Okay? Okay, fantastic.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Well we have got We've got three wonderful, wonderful guests
- 1:18Speaker 2: to get to today, a bumper edition, you might say.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Before we do, however, we had to think of We
- 1:24Speaker 2: had to think of a bit, you know, because it's
- 1:26Speaker 2: a live podcast, you've got to think of you know.
- 1:30Speaker 2: And so we have a game for you all, okay,
- 1:32Speaker 2: And it's a game that's going to enable us to
- 1:34Speaker 2: get to know Tim Flower across the course across the
- 1:37Speaker 2: course of the podcast a little more intimately. Shall we
- 1:40Speaker 2: say that sounds a bit weird When the game is called,
- 1:45Speaker 2: are you experienced any Jimmy Hendrix fans in the audience?
- 1:48Speaker 3: You know, so you get the illusion there.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Right, and are you experience because we are, of course
- 1:54Speaker 2: at experience.
- 1:55Speaker 3: You see what we did there, And.
- 1:56Speaker 2: We're gonna ask between all the guests, We're gonna ask
- 1:58Speaker 2: Tim a question to find out how experienced Tim Flower is.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Okay, And the first I'm scared Okay.
- 2:05Speaker 2: The first question is Tim Flower, have you ever been
- 2:09Speaker 2: in a fist fight?
- 2:11Speaker 5: Have I ever been in a fist fight? So you reckon?
- 2:13Speaker 5: What do you reckon?
- 2:14Speaker 3: Yes?
- 2:15Speaker 2: Raise your hands, everybody feel everybody sees a man's I'm
- 2:21Speaker 2: a lover, not a fighter.
- 2:23Speaker 5: I'm a lover, not a fighter.
- 2:25Speaker 4: You can imagine growing up in the seventies and eighties
- 2:27Speaker 4: with the last name Flower, I had to defend my.
- 2:30Speaker 5: Family honor once in a while.
- 2:32Speaker 2: It was just black and blue the entire time, you know,
- 2:35Speaker 2: from the age of seven to seventeen, it was that
- 2:39Speaker 2: it was add.
- 2:40Speaker 5: A yes, Tim, it was a yes. You got it right?
- 2:42Speaker 2: Well, round of applause with Tim Flower defending, defend, defending
- 2:46Speaker 2: the Flower name. Glad to hear it, glad to hear it.
- 2:50Speaker 2: And I did say I would respond in kind. And
- 2:53Speaker 2: I have to tell you that I am I'm not
- 2:55Speaker 2: sure how to answer answer the question because I think
- 2:58Speaker 2: for a fist fight, you have to be two people fighting.
- 3:00Speaker 5: I've been you for yourself. I've been punched a few.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Times, but I haven't I've never really thrown back in
- 3:06Speaker 2: any earnest if I'm on. But let let's get them
- 3:09Speaker 2: with welcoming our first guest, and I think it's Christina.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Right, we're welcome.
- 3:14Speaker 5: No, we're gonna bring James up first.
- 3:15Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna bring James. Sorry, everybody bear with me.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yes, well, we're very very blessed to have him because
- 3:20Speaker 2: we did lose one of our guests yesterday. But he's
- 3:23Speaker 2: presenting a fantastic breakout later today which we'll hear more about.
- 3:27Speaker 2: He's a director of Digital Workplace Services at Campbell's and
- 3:30Speaker 2: he's James Crick. Ladies and gentlemen, rounded, applause for James, James.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, come on in. Welcome James. Thanks for James.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And here is your look. You've got like a.
- 3:44Speaker 6: Testing testing Thanks for having me.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Guys.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Oh it's some, it's some. It's our pleasure. Really, it's
- 3:50Speaker 2: our pleasure. And tell us, Audden, tell us about a
- 3:52Speaker 2: bit about yourself and and your role first of all
- 3:54Speaker 2: at Campbell's.
- 3:54Speaker 7: Please sure sure before I do that, I do want
- 3:57Speaker 7: to say it's an honor to be here on the
- 3:58Speaker 7: deck show.
- 3:58Speaker 5: Thanks man, happy very much.
- 4:01Speaker 6: You guys asked me last minute, did you have a
- 4:02Speaker 6: fistfight with a guy.
- 4:03Speaker 5: Before we did?
- 4:04Speaker 4: Ye?
- 4:04Speaker 3: I like that, so I guess that's.
- 4:06Speaker 7: My benefit, right, all right. So I've James Crick Campbell's.
- 4:11Speaker 7: I've been in the IT industry for about thirty years.
- 4:14Speaker 7: Started out of college as a desktop support tech was
- 4:17Speaker 7: actually outsourced at the time the biggest outsourcer service provider
- 4:22Speaker 7: in the world, and spent twenty years of my career
- 4:24Speaker 7: there gaining a lot of experience, a lot of different roles,
- 4:29Speaker 7: and then took a left turn and left outsourcing business.
- 4:33Speaker 7: I went to a company where we created and developed
- 4:37Speaker 7: a team to do service delivery for service desk, desktop
- 4:40Speaker 7: support and modern device and then after that came to
- 4:44Speaker 7: Campbell's and now I'm actually on another side of the table,
- 4:46Speaker 7: so to speak, managing an outsourcer for those respective services.
- 4:50Speaker 3: And you got to break out later today, what was
- 4:52Speaker 3: that going to be about?
- 4:53Speaker 7: Ooh, that's going to be very exciting. So at one o'clock,
- 4:57Speaker 7: everybody just on the ensemble f right.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Down there, miss it.
- 5:01Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll be sharing a lot of the great things
- 5:04Speaker 7: that we're doing at Campbell's with The Next thing.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Is Campbell's as iconic a brand here as in the UK.
- 5:11Speaker 6: I have to say, you know, in the UK, I
- 5:12Speaker 6: didn't know it was iconic.
- 5:14Speaker 3: It genuinely. Is it's beIN the name everything.
- 5:17Speaker 7: Yeah, it's actually got a very fascinating history, but I
- 5:20Speaker 7: won't go into that too much. But yeah, since eighteen
- 5:22Speaker 7: sixty nine it was Wow, Sure, sure, but we changed
- 5:26Speaker 7: the name to the Campbell's Company because soup is only
- 5:29Speaker 7: twenty percent of our revenue. Now it's it's a whole
- 5:32Speaker 7: host of different products and brands now.
- 5:35Speaker 2: And rumor is that you guys recently got quite a
- 5:38Speaker 2: distinguished award we did.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Can you tell us a bit about it?
- 5:41Speaker 4: Did?
- 5:41Speaker 3: Sure?
- 5:42Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 5:43Speaker 7: So there's an industry analyst consultancy called Digital Workplace Group.
- 5:49Speaker 7: We've been a member for several years and they're on there,
- 5:52Speaker 7: I think their eighth year of their awards, where they
- 5:55Speaker 7: basically give out awards for organizations enterprises that develop high
- 6:01Speaker 7: performing digital workplace environments, and we won an award called
- 6:06Speaker 7: Data led Experience Management. I can't share too much of
- 6:12Speaker 7: the criteria because that's stealing some of the thunder at the.
- 6:17Speaker 6: Caning at one o'clock.
- 6:18Speaker 7: But what I will give you Tim and Tom is
- 6:21Speaker 7: a taste of we're very intentional at Campbell's, right.
- 6:25Speaker 6: A lot of the.
- 6:26Speaker 7: Actions and trans transitions that we make at the company
- 6:30Speaker 7: are predicated on data and Next Thing provides a wealth
- 6:36Speaker 7: of data to us, and so a lot of the
- 6:39Speaker 7: implementations that we've done with Next Thing kind of afforded
- 6:43Speaker 7: us to get that award. In fact, that guy right
- 6:45Speaker 7: over there, Rory Gardner, was the one who presented me
- 6:47Speaker 7: the award, So a little shout out to Rory. Yeah,
- 6:51Speaker 7: but yeah, it was definitely an honor for us to
- 6:53Speaker 7: win that team award.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Pobulous cool.
- 6:56Speaker 4: So let's let's stay on that theme and connect the
- 6:58Speaker 4: dots between that award, data, lead management, and outcomes.
- 7:03Speaker 5: Right, So talk a little bit.
- 7:05Speaker 4: About what the efforts were, kind of what the outcomes are.
- 7:09Speaker 5: What are you seeing from real results? Did you what?
- 7:12Speaker 5: Did you?
- 7:13Speaker 7: Absolutely great question, Tim. I've been at Campbell's six years
- 7:20Speaker 7: and so we haven't had next Thing for six years,
- 7:22Speaker 7: actually just the last two. But we've seen with a
- 7:26Speaker 7: lot of the levers that we've pulled to drive the initiatives,
- 7:30Speaker 7: year over year, our service desk contact volume has gone
- 7:34Speaker 7: down year over year by ten percent plus year over year,
- 7:38Speaker 7: which is to me astounding. I've seen lots of different
- 7:41Speaker 7: especially in outsource, and a lot of different environments, a
- 7:43Speaker 7: lot of different metrics. I've never seen such a phenomenal
- 7:46Speaker 7: stare step down our incident volume, which is kind of
- 7:50Speaker 7: like the you know what you strive for, you want
- 7:52Speaker 7: that to go down year over year, and so we've
- 7:54Speaker 7: seen that over the past five years. MTTR again, same
- 7:59Speaker 7: story over year improvement.
- 8:02Speaker 6: And then our c SATs.
- 8:04Speaker 7: When I first started with a company, we were about
- 8:06Speaker 7: anywhere ranging between eighty to eighty five percent. For the
- 8:10Speaker 7: last three years we've been ninety five percent plus.
- 8:13Speaker 4: And do you do c SAT like a lot of
- 8:15Speaker 4: it organizations on feedback from a ticket and experience with
- 8:19Speaker 4: a help desk or customers sat on it in general,
- 8:23Speaker 4: whether or not they logged a call correct.
- 8:26Speaker 7: So one of the odd things when I got to Campbell's,
- 8:28Speaker 7: they do one hundred percent. So every ticket gets a survey.
- 8:32Speaker 7: To me, that's over surveying your public. But our return rate,
- 8:35Speaker 7: I can't argue with our return rates, it's like seven
- 8:37Speaker 7: percent usually in that vein it's industry standards around three percent.
- 8:41Speaker 6: So we're really happy with that. And now we're.
- 8:43Speaker 7: Starting to dip our toe into the sentiment aspect of
- 8:46Speaker 7: next thing to also gain feedback in that avenue.
- 8:49Speaker 4: So feedback from employees is one thing. What's the feedback
- 8:51Speaker 4: been from leadership and kind of opinions on your efforts?
- 8:56Speaker 7: Sure, so the leadership is, you know, treating us well well, right, Bill,
- 9:03Speaker 7: We've partnered, so some of the success has fostered other
- 9:07Speaker 7: organizations across the business within Campbell's to reach out and say, hey,
- 9:11Speaker 7: those cool branded pop ups that you guys do, can
- 9:13Speaker 7: we get in on that? And so we've had hr
- 9:15Speaker 7: communications some of the other businesses approach us. So I'll
- 9:19Speaker 7: give you a quick example. Right, every company goes through
- 9:22Speaker 7: their annual benefits enrollment, So that team reached out last
- 9:26Speaker 7: year and right they you know, we'll do the traditional
- 9:30Speaker 7: email on the internal.
- 9:31Speaker 6: Social media posts.
- 9:32Speaker 7: Hey it's that time of year if you're going in
- 9:35Speaker 7: the company needs to sign up for their benefits. They
- 9:38Speaker 7: asked us to do a pop up in like the
- 9:40Speaker 7: last week before it ended, and they said the spike
- 9:43Speaker 7: that they had the day that we did the pop
- 9:45Speaker 7: up was huge compared to their other avenues. So a
- 9:49Speaker 7: lot of people are clamoring to us, focusing specifically on
- 9:53Speaker 7: the engagement campaigns.
- 9:55Speaker 5: And are you seeing it now?
- 9:56Speaker 4: People are realizing that it's part of your DNA and
- 9:59Speaker 4: necessary part of their un the operation or do you find
- 10:01Speaker 4: yourselves of having to evangelize still on the benefit.
- 10:05Speaker 6: We do still have to evangelize to some extent.
- 10:08Speaker 7: So as much as I have some of the business
- 10:09Speaker 7: partners clamoring to get in, I was a little surprised
- 10:14Speaker 7: that some of our IT brethren are not chopping at
- 10:18Speaker 7: the bit. We do have our network team, we train
- 10:21Speaker 7: them all up on it. We're doing another round of
- 10:23Speaker 7: training soon because again data Next Think has just a
- 10:28Speaker 7: wealth of data that you can consume and take action upon.
- 10:31Speaker 7: But there's other groups in it that we believe that
- 10:34Speaker 7: can benefit, especially the application side of the house, and
- 10:36Speaker 7: nobody from the application side of the house has really
- 10:39Speaker 7: knocked on our doors.
- 10:39Speaker 6: So we're doing the evangelist.
- 10:41Speaker 5: Cool, No.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Fantastic.
- 10:44Speaker 2: And when it comes to AI, you know, particularly like
- 10:47Speaker 2: next Think innovation within AI, are you getting any value
- 10:52Speaker 2: out of it? Is anything particularly cool your eye? The
- 10:54Speaker 2: next thing's announced and launched in the last few months.
- 10:56Speaker 7: Yeah, the the infusion of AI into next Think assist.
- 11:02Speaker 7: I have a lot of high hopes for It's interesting
- 11:05Speaker 7: our implementation. I remember Tim, the first time I met
- 11:08Speaker 7: you was at a Gartner show and Javine right and
- 11:12Speaker 7: I remember watching you speak to the audience and you
- 11:15Speaker 7: were explaining how a lot of times an organization will
- 11:19Speaker 7: bring in next Think and one of the first things
- 11:22Speaker 7: they do, kind of low hanging fruit, is they'll they'll
- 11:25Speaker 7: do the API with a ticketing tool, and they'll they'll
- 11:29Speaker 7: use next Think as.
- 11:30Speaker 6: A first step to really help the.
- 11:32Speaker 7: Agents and the texts to help with problem determination resolution.
- 11:37Speaker 6: We had Campbell's we actually kind of skipped that step.
- 11:39Speaker 7: We went right to the kind of level zero versus
- 11:42Speaker 7: level one and two to kind of get those masses
- 11:45Speaker 7: of incident reduction. And it's just now that we're starting
- 11:49Speaker 7: to really do the full court press on education to
- 11:52Speaker 7: our agents in our texts and with the infusion that
- 11:55Speaker 7: the timing right, so we're also at the same time
- 11:57Speaker 7: rolling out where a big micros off shops are rolling
- 12:00Speaker 7: out Copilot to our environment or enterprise, and so we're
- 12:04Speaker 7: training all of our folks, including our agents and tech.
- 12:08Speaker 7: So the fact that they're learning AI and now that
- 12:12Speaker 7: there's an infusion of AI into Next Think assists where
- 12:16Speaker 7: you can type in the conversational prompt and they're getting
- 12:19Speaker 7: better at those prompts, we believe that's going to help
- 12:22Speaker 7: a lot with the resolution.
- 12:24Speaker 5: Amazing James.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Before we let you go and we plug one last
- 12:28Speaker 2: time your exciting breakout.
- 12:30Speaker 3: Thank you, and let's pretend you weren't doing a breakout.
- 12:32Speaker 3: What drules you to experience? What can you what could
- 12:35Speaker 3: your peers seek from coming to this event in person?
- 12:37Speaker 5: What's jone?
- 12:38Speaker 7: Absolutely, this is my second year, so last year. It's
- 12:41Speaker 7: fantastic time, So there's no way I was not going
- 12:43Speaker 7: to miss it. Essentially, you have some of the best
- 12:49Speaker 7: minds from Next Think from all over the world under
- 12:52Speaker 7: one roof here where you can tap into and listen
- 12:55Speaker 7: to right Then on top of that, you bring all
- 12:58Speaker 7: of your your vendors and partners here and showcase that
- 13:02Speaker 7: you have people like myself that will share their experiences
- 13:05Speaker 7: of how they're using next Thing. So all of that collectively,
- 13:09Speaker 7: the amount of information that you get out of these
- 13:11Speaker 7: two days is you know, comparable.
- 13:15Speaker 3: We appreciate it, man, So is one pm?
- 13:17Speaker 6: One pm? Which room is samble f? Yeah, everybody's company.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Don't miss it, everybody and show a big round of applause.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Huge thanks James, Man. We appreciate it.
- 13:30Speaker 8: Friends.
- 13:32Speaker 3: Okay, who wants another round.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Of are you experienced? We want to know more about
- 13:37Speaker 2: Tim Flower. Yes, okay, here's here's a question.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Once again, we're going to put it to the audience. First,
- 13:45Speaker 3: do we think that Tim Flower.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Has appeared on stage before, not in this capacity, but
- 13:51Speaker 2: in a play.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Raise your hands if you think Tim's been in.
- 13:54Speaker 2: A play, A street fighting man, and and and a
- 13:58Speaker 2: ftpian Tim is that accurate?
- 14:00Speaker 5: It's a It is accurate. It is accurate.
- 14:03Speaker 3: I actually knew this from an earlier show. But tell
- 14:05Speaker 3: us what the play was to it was and Meghan.
- 14:09Speaker 4: Meghan actually took a walk, which she can relate to
- 14:11Speaker 4: this as well. I played Oliver, so it's kind of fitting, right,
- 14:17Speaker 4: fist fight. You can imagine Oliver twists. It's more appropriate
- 14:20Speaker 4: conversation for maybe the tobacco docks that setting.
- 14:22Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oliver.
- 14:24Speaker 4: Twist was my claim to fame. And was it the musical?
- 14:27Speaker 4: It was absolutely in the musical and so well one song,
- 14:30Speaker 4: one song you'd have to sing it, but I'll do
- 14:34Speaker 4: a lyric. Consider yourself, right, let's go food, glorious food, food,
- 14:40Speaker 4: glorious food.
- 14:42Speaker 5: And my big solo, I do anything I do.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's good memories, Okay, nice, all right, Well,
- 14:48Speaker 2: I'm not actual gonnadd I actually sang in a pantomime?
- 14:50Speaker 3: Did you sang in a pantomime at Christmas?
- 14:53Speaker 5: Break the rules?
- 14:55Speaker 4: What do you mean you can you can verbalize in
- 14:58Speaker 4: a pantomime?
- 14:59Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 14:59Speaker 2: Yeah, anto, we call it all right. It's like it's
- 15:02Speaker 2: like a Christmas plaything, and I sang, I'll do anything.
- 15:05Speaker 2: But it was in like Cinderella ros all right, I
- 15:07Speaker 2: was like buttons.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Okay, So who we got next? We've got christ with
- 15:11Speaker 3: Christina Stina.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Okay, please put your hands together and welcome from Bayer.
- 15:16Speaker 3: It's Christine Lea.
- 15:17Speaker 5: Hey, hi Christina, thanks for joining us.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Hi Christina, welcome to the show. How you doing here?
- 15:25Speaker 3: Is your Mike Raffon?
- 15:27Speaker 5: Thank you? Yeah?
- 15:28Speaker 4: The bumpy ride in we're delayed ride in?
- 15:31Speaker 3: Yes, yeah we did. Have you been in the play before, Christina? No? No,
- 15:35Speaker 3: what about a fistfight outside of siblings? Now?
- 15:39Speaker 2: Okay, yeah that's true. That definitely doesn't count. Well, welcome
- 15:43Speaker 2: to experience. This is your first time.
- 15:45Speaker 9: Here, first time out experience.
- 15:46Speaker 2: First experience. Okay, fantastic. Introduce yourself and your business recipit.
- 15:51Speaker 9: So my name is Christina lar I'm currently here from
- 15:53Speaker 9: Bear Saint Louis, Missouri. Been with Bird eleven years in
- 15:58Speaker 9: the industry fourteen. My back ground is very much an
- 16:01Speaker 9: architecture engineering and then recently took over our dex platform
- 16:06Speaker 9: as a product manager.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Soupep and what have been some of the key achievements, say,
- 16:10Speaker 2: over this first year with a platform.
- 16:13Speaker 9: So overall, one of our major achievements this year was
- 16:16Speaker 9: the rollout of the platform operationalizing it. We do work
- 16:20Speaker 9: with external managed service partners, so it's not as simple
- 16:23Speaker 9: as just bringing a product and managing it in house
- 16:27Speaker 9: because we have external partners that play key roles within it.
- 16:30Speaker 9: So major accomplishment obviously rolling out our DX platform, further
- 16:35Speaker 9: building out the team as well as we start to
- 16:38Speaker 9: forward look at what we want to do not just
- 16:41Speaker 9: in DX but also the agentic AI space additionally with
- 16:45Speaker 9: data Foundation and how we want to further driver data
- 16:47Speaker 9: analytics platforms moving forward.
- 16:49Speaker 5: Cool amazing.
- 16:50Speaker 4: So for folks that have been listening to the podcast
- 16:53Speaker 4: for a while, you've heard me draw the parallels between
- 16:57Speaker 4: healthy It and healthy society that we are as a society.
- 17:02Speaker 4: We are more healthy if we eat right, we exercise,
- 17:05Speaker 4: we get our vaccinations, we stay out of the hospital,
- 17:07Speaker 4: and we're less of a cost burden to the system.
- 17:11Speaker 4: Same goes with it healthy happy employees. If you keep
- 17:14Speaker 4: things running well, are you seeing kind of in your
- 17:17Speaker 4: environment and acknowledgment of that that it's no longer keeping
- 17:20Speaker 4: things healthy is no longer kind of nice to have,
- 17:23Speaker 4: but it's a really a necessary part of the org.
- 17:26Speaker 9: Yes, and this gets i would say, stronger and stronger
- 17:30Speaker 9: every day as the years go on. We're more and
- 17:32Speaker 9: more reliant on our laptops working, our endpoints working.
- 17:36Speaker 6: It should just work.
- 17:40Speaker 9: Every minute loss is minute loss with our customers in
- 17:43Speaker 9: those customers spanning outside of healthcare, but also in the
- 17:47Speaker 9: crop space and the consumer space. Very important because in
- 17:51Speaker 9: the end our customers internally within it are customers who
- 17:56Speaker 9: directly face our customers externally in the industry.
- 18:00Speaker 3: But again you see a domino effect.
- 18:01Speaker 9: They lose time, we lose time in the industry.
- 18:04Speaker 5: Yep.
- 18:05Speaker 4: So we're kind of celebrating the launch of our first
- 18:08Speaker 4: annual workplace Productivity report, cracking the decks equation. Everyone's got
- 18:13Speaker 4: a little bit of a different formula, a different equation
- 18:15Speaker 4: of what that actually means to them. Talk a bit
- 18:17Speaker 4: about what is part of your equation and what some
- 18:20Speaker 4: of the results are.
- 18:21Speaker 9: Yeah, So we put a lot of heavy emphasis on
- 18:23Speaker 9: our DX really in the last quarter. So we do
- 18:26Speaker 9: operate in what's called ninety days sprints, and in our
- 18:29Speaker 9: last ninety days major focus of ours was DX. Through
- 18:33Speaker 9: that we rebaselined our DX score. We shifted things based
- 18:38Speaker 9: upon what BEAR needed, not so much the industry because
- 18:41Speaker 9: we already know within the organization we're behind on a
- 18:44Speaker 9: lot of stuff, so we already know it's adversely affecting us.
- 18:48Speaker 9: But where can we provide the most value instead of
- 18:50Speaker 9: wasting time where a particular root cause causing that that
- 18:54Speaker 9: DX impact might take six to nine months to fix,
- 18:58Speaker 9: Where can we further put our f and focus there.
- 19:01Speaker 9: So as we rebaselined our DX, how we built our
- 19:05Speaker 9: equation out was obviously the sentiment and the technology side,
- 19:08Speaker 9: but we took out non key enabling drivers maybe it's
- 19:14Speaker 9: a collaboration, maybe it's particular websites or URLs or the
- 19:18Speaker 9: whole application side, and we put actual focus on underlying
- 19:23Speaker 9: foundational pieces such as device performance in other areas. And
- 19:27Speaker 9: then our idea as we further build out the DX equation,
- 19:30Speaker 9: we'll focus more on a benefit analysis around it and
- 19:33Speaker 9: then consistently review that DX score and optimize that equation.
- 19:38Speaker 9: It should never be a stagnant equation on our side.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Thank you for that, And I should put in a
- 19:44Speaker 2: plug for people who want to find out more about
- 19:47Speaker 2: the decks equation.
- 19:48Speaker 3: When you report it.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Funds that four hundred and seventy thousand hours are lost
- 19:53Speaker 2: per years for enterprises due to poor decks And if
- 19:56Speaker 2: you want to start putting some productivity findings and figures
- 20:00Speaker 2: on your DEX investment, go over to the Ambassador's hub
- 20:03Speaker 2: where you can download the report, or go over to
- 20:06Speaker 2: the next new website where you can get it as well.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Absolutely check that out. What is next on the roadmap
- 20:11Speaker 2: for Bayo Usina.
- 20:13Speaker 9: So first thing is data enablement. Our next on our
- 20:17Speaker 9: roadmap is absolutely a key data foundation layer as we
- 20:22Speaker 9: forward look in the next year. The ideas once you
- 20:25Speaker 9: have good data, you can start making it intelligent, you
- 20:27Speaker 9: can start adding anomaly detection, you can start really driving
- 20:30Speaker 9: improvement without all the manual intervention. And this is where
- 20:33Speaker 9: we're using DEX as a key driver to further building
- 20:37Speaker 9: out this full agentic view.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Fantastic and looking at the agenda across Experience Boston, what
- 20:45Speaker 2: stands out to you, what are you excited about doing well.
- 20:47Speaker 9: We're here most of all networking understanding what others are doing,
- 20:51Speaker 9: seeing where we can rinse and repeat, where we can
- 20:53Speaker 9: shift also our focus. But maybe somebody's already done it.
- 20:56Speaker 9: We don't have to spend that amount of time on
- 20:58Speaker 9: implementing it within the organized cool.
- 21:01Speaker 4: Let me ask you a little bit of a curveball.
- 21:05Speaker 4: What's when you turn the lights on? When next thing
- 21:07Speaker 4: you find? Obviously the things you know about anything come
- 21:09Speaker 4: to mind over the last little bit of time of
- 21:11Speaker 4: something you found that you didn't even expect. Kind of
- 21:15Speaker 4: do you look at the environment, what kind of data
- 21:17Speaker 4: are you seeing that you said, Wow, I didn't even
- 21:19Speaker 4: know that was out there.
- 21:22Speaker 9: Uh, we see it in multiple areas. We we obviously
- 21:25Speaker 9: see the things we expected, log on boot times, things
- 21:28Speaker 9: like that. I would say that our key drivers of
- 21:31Speaker 9: things like impact of CPU, impact of memory and disk
- 21:36Speaker 9: space wasn't always what we thought it was, So I
- 21:40Speaker 9: would say that was a little bit of a surprise,
- 21:42Speaker 9: but based upon the data, we were able to optimize
- 21:45Speaker 9: that and it's back to exactly.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Where we thought it was.
- 21:47Speaker 5: Great.
- 21:49Speaker 3: Christina, thank you so much, Van, thank you, thanks such.
- 21:56Speaker 5: Thanks Christin, thank you thanks.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Okay, one last round everywhere we go, last round of
- 22:03Speaker 2: are you experienced?
- 22:04Speaker 3: Tim Flower? Edition?
- 22:05Speaker 2: Tim Flower, I'm gonna ask him and we're gonna have
- 22:07Speaker 2: to show hands before he answers. Okay, The question is,
- 22:11Speaker 2: has Tim Flower ever been thrown out of the bar?
- 22:14Speaker 5: We already know he's been in. Did the fight happen
- 22:17Speaker 5: in the bar?
- 22:17Speaker 3: So you know, do we think he's been thrown out
- 22:19Speaker 3: the bar? Raisy hands? If it's a yes, Oh, look
- 22:23Speaker 3: at that one. You know, highly respectable, highly respectable, never.
- 22:29Speaker 5: Been thrown out of a bar.
- 22:30Speaker 4: You were quite right intimately, Well, I get yeah, No,
- 22:34Speaker 4: I'm very very respectable in the bar.
- 22:37Speaker 3: I have been frond out of you.
- 22:41Speaker 2: I'm afraid to say, everybody, I'm afraid to say. And
- 22:43Speaker 2: you know now we're gonna welcome our final guest.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Our final guest. He's Ryan Way from Warburg Pinkers.
- 22:51Speaker 5: Brian, come up here, Come on, Brian.
- 22:53Speaker 4: And while Ryan's coming up, if anybody in the back
- 22:55Speaker 4: can't hear us, there are headphones if you'd like to
- 22:57Speaker 4: grab a headphone if you're unable to.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Hear yes, or is your microphone? Welcome to Experienced Boston.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Welcome to the deck Show. Life. Thank you is first
- 23:08Speaker 3: time experience.
- 23:09Speaker 10: It is my second time, but first time as an
- 23:11Speaker 10: active customer. Last year I understood half of the terminologyious.
- 23:16Speaker 5: Now you understand it all?
- 23:18Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, what was that experience like last year?
- 23:21Speaker 2: I mean it was how early in your dex's journey
- 23:24Speaker 2: were you at that point?
- 23:26Speaker 8: About negative one month?
- 23:27Speaker 10: So I came in just very thirsty for knowledge, attending
- 23:32Speaker 10: every breakout session. I could not understanding what was happening
- 23:36Speaker 10: on the spotlight stage at the time, but still writing
- 23:38Speaker 10: things down. But it all came in valuable later because
- 23:41Speaker 10: I was like, oh, this makes sense now, okay, let
- 23:43Speaker 10: me go back.
- 23:44Speaker 8: How can I apply this?
- 23:46Speaker 2: And I mean just to tell people a bit about
- 23:48Speaker 2: yourself and your business as well to begin Sure.
- 23:50Speaker 10: Yeah, my name is Ryan Way. I worked for Warburg Pinkus.
- 23:53Speaker 10: It's a private equity firm where a global company. I'm
- 23:57Speaker 10: based out of our New York flagship office. I've been
- 24:00Speaker 10: with Warburg since twenty eleven. I was raised on the
- 24:03Speaker 10: level one level two teams. Recently about two or three
- 24:07Speaker 10: years ago, transition to our infrastructure team, and then the
- 24:10Speaker 10: timing was right when we started looking at next think.
- 24:13Speaker 10: I raised my hand and said hey, I want to
- 24:14Speaker 10: do this, and now here I am.
- 24:18Speaker 4: So I love I love talking with like minded it
- 24:22Speaker 4: folks that have that proactive mindset. Back when I was
- 24:25Speaker 4: at the Hertford stood up the proactive services team and
- 24:28Speaker 4: it changed everything for us.
- 24:29Speaker 5: Led to me coming here.
- 24:31Speaker 4: Talk a bit about what proactive services means to you.
- 24:34Speaker 4: What kinds of things are you doing? How has it
- 24:36Speaker 4: changed your operation?
- 24:38Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm going to say for myself, I approached it
- 24:42Speaker 10: very greedily. If I was still on the help desk team,
- 24:45Speaker 10: if I was still on level two, how could I
- 24:48Speaker 10: make my own life easier if I had unlimited control
- 24:52Speaker 10: over our decks platform, unlimited data from the endpoints, you know,
- 24:56Speaker 10: ability to send remote actions workflows. That was my first step.
- 25:00Speaker 10: I didn't I didn't care as much about the deck score.
- 25:03Speaker 10: Maybe I should have. It was more how do I
- 25:06Speaker 10: improve the lives of the technicians First, get them to
- 25:09Speaker 10: fall in love with the product, and then they can
- 25:11Speaker 10: say this is perfect.
- 25:12Speaker 8: Now can we do this?
- 25:14Speaker 10: So I wanted like a self generating platform and I'm
- 25:18Speaker 10: still working through that, but it's been very well received.
- 25:22Speaker 4: And Christina talked a little bit about some of the
- 25:24Speaker 4: things that they're seeing in the environment and the changes
- 25:27Speaker 4: that they're making. You talked about kind of the and
- 25:29Speaker 4: I refer to it as this is your first thoughts
- 25:33Speaker 4: of proactive it ta or for selfish reasons, how do
- 25:35Speaker 4: I make my job easier?
- 25:36Speaker 5: How do to make things better for me?
- 25:38Speaker 4: Talk about what proactive services means to actually improving the
- 25:42Speaker 4: experience of the people that you support. What kind of initiatives,
- 25:45Speaker 4: what kind of efforts are you you have underway that
- 25:47Speaker 4: make their lives better.
- 25:48Speaker 10: Yeah, a lot of it is identifying where we can
- 25:52Speaker 10: use like self healing workflows, where it was mentioned earlier
- 25:56Speaker 10: the web hoook, create a ticket, have someone follow up
- 25:58Speaker 10: on it. I'm trying to bypass that step where first
- 26:02Speaker 10: we recognize this is a repeatable solution, now let's automate it.
- 26:07Speaker 10: So anywhere that I can apply that, I'm immediately just
- 26:10Speaker 10: jumping for it. Beyond that, not to steal the thunder
- 26:16Speaker 10: of later, but I saw there's a breakout session called
- 26:18Speaker 10: suffering in silence.
- 26:19Speaker 8: Yeah, that's been our focus.
- 26:22Speaker 10: Like we know there are users who are suffering in silence.
- 26:25Speaker 10: They're willing to just endure crashes if they can get
- 26:27Speaker 10: back to work without a big downtime.
- 26:30Speaker 8: So we made them a focus.
- 26:32Speaker 10: We wanted to identify where are all our dark spots,
- 26:36Speaker 10: where are the people that have problems that are not
- 26:37Speaker 10: reporting it. And one of my goals was get to
- 26:41Speaker 10: a point where nobody catches our CTO in the elevator
- 26:44Speaker 10: and surprises them with something. So so far we're accomplishing
- 26:49Speaker 10: that goal, and then some almost to the point where
- 26:52Speaker 10: some users are like, yes, I know I'm having this problem.
- 26:55Speaker 8: Can you come back later. I don't want to deal
- 26:57Speaker 8: with it.
- 26:57Speaker 4: One of the fun things about my job is helping
- 27:00Speaker 4: people think a little bit differently, and what you just
- 27:02Speaker 4: talked about can be counterproductive when you're internally focused. If
- 27:06Speaker 4: I'm looking at reducing it costs, I'm not going to
- 27:09Speaker 4: be worried about the people that don't call because I'm
- 27:11Speaker 4: not responding. I'm not fixing it. There's no expense to
- 27:14Speaker 4: me if they don't call. In fact, I can reduce
- 27:16Speaker 4: my expenses. I'll just tell everyone to stop calling, and
- 27:19Speaker 4: then I have no tickets to respond to you. So
- 27:21Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that you're focusing on those folks
- 27:25Speaker 4: that are suffering in silence, even though there's less of
- 27:28Speaker 4: a burden relief on it.
- 27:30Speaker 5: That's a cool way to look at it.
- 27:31Speaker 4: Yeah, I think something that a lot of enterprises focus
- 27:36Speaker 4: on is the big picture, right dex is about how
- 27:39Speaker 4: is my enterprise, how is my company managing? How are
- 27:42Speaker 4: we making everyone's lives better? But you have a focus
- 27:45Speaker 4: on the smaller groups and actually you're write down to
- 27:49Speaker 4: individualized it. So how do you look at and respond
- 27:54Speaker 4: to your stakeholders that are you have maybe concerned about
- 27:58Speaker 4: the masses, but twenty people failed. I want to know
- 28:01Speaker 4: who they are, why they failed, what was done, and
- 28:04Speaker 4: when was it resolved? So how are you making kind
- 28:06Speaker 4: of proactive it an individual solution?
- 28:10Speaker 10: Sure that was something like I chose to do very early,
- 28:15Speaker 10: understanding who I report to, understanding who's going to look
- 28:18Speaker 10: at the data, and immediately looking at the dashboards that
- 28:21Speaker 10: come with next thank I was like, this is not enough.
- 28:24Speaker 10: I'm going to be drilling into every investigation and wasting
- 28:27Speaker 10: so much time identifying who is having these problems. So
- 28:32Speaker 10: what I do now is I treat the library content
- 28:36Speaker 10: almost as my ala carte menu. I'll install it, I'll
- 28:39Speaker 10: look through it, and I'll just say this is great.
- 28:41Speaker 10: I'm taking this small plug. Whoever made widgets able to
- 28:45Speaker 10: be copy and pasted. I love you if you're here,
- 28:48Speaker 10: I owe you a drink later. But what I'll do
- 28:51Speaker 10: now is I will build out a dashboard that at
- 28:53Speaker 10: the top has the KPIs you know, twenty people were impacted,
- 28:57Speaker 10: thirty people were impacted, and then below I'll have a
- 28:59Speaker 10: widget that says these are the people that were impacted,
- 29:02Speaker 10: this is their office, this is their title, this is
- 29:06Speaker 10: the model laptop they're on, if that's relevant. And then
- 29:09Speaker 10: any recent alerts that might be related to that problem,
- 29:11Speaker 10: I'll break that out as well, so all the questions
- 29:15Speaker 10: should be answered in a single tab of the dashboard.
- 29:20Speaker 10: And then those are the things that I usher our
- 29:21Speaker 10: support teams to focus on at the beginning of the day.
- 29:24Speaker 10: Come look at this, tackle these key issues, then work
- 29:27Speaker 10: your way through everything else.
- 29:29Speaker 4: One more for you, And we talked a little bit
- 29:30Speaker 4: before about it before the show, talk a bit about
- 29:33Speaker 4: the impact of a platform like this when you're a
- 29:37Speaker 4: very small, nimble team, right when you're supporting a smaller enterprise,
- 29:41Speaker 4: you wear a lot of hats. You're the networking guy,
- 29:43Speaker 4: you're the euc guy, you're the application guy, you're the trainer.
- 29:46Speaker 4: How does that visibility across the enterprise. Help when you've
- 29:49Speaker 4: got all those hats.
- 29:51Speaker 8: It's actually really worked in our favor.
- 29:53Speaker 10: I get approached a lot by teams that I don't
- 29:55Speaker 10: directly work with. For example, I mentioned like, we're a
- 29:58Speaker 10: private equity firm. We have a third party portal for
- 30:01Speaker 10: our investors to sign into. So I created an alert
- 30:04Speaker 10: where if our employees have two connection failures in fifteen minutes,
- 30:09Speaker 10: an email goes out to the teams responsible for the site,
- 30:13Speaker 10: just so they have an early warning of there might
- 30:15Speaker 10: be an outage, there might be service disruption. Let's look
- 30:18Speaker 10: into this, Let's get on the phone, let's prepare. It
- 30:21Speaker 10: also means I get approached by a lot of people
- 30:23Speaker 10: in IT to help them with their projects, where they'll
- 30:26Speaker 10: tell me we're about to start working on this thing,
- 30:29Speaker 10: like let's use to example Windows, Hello, passwordless login. They'll
- 30:32Speaker 10: come to me and say, hey, I'm gonna do this.
- 30:34Speaker 10: How can next things support my project? How can we
- 30:38Speaker 10: make real time reports instead of sending around spreadsheets to
- 30:41Speaker 10: mark our progress.
- 30:43Speaker 4: So I think it's a big deal. It's something to
- 30:44Speaker 4: highlight there. It's alerts are great. Knowledge of the alert
- 30:48Speaker 4: that it happened is great. Using it as a trigger
- 30:50Speaker 4: to take automated action so that you're actually responding to
- 30:53Speaker 4: the alert in a way that doesn't require you to
- 30:56Speaker 4: go in and hands on go do something.
- 30:57Speaker 5: Yeah, I think is huge.
- 30:59Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the direction we definitely see ourselves going in
- 31:02Speaker 10: for a while.
- 31:04Speaker 8: It's been working so far.
- 31:05Speaker 5: Cool.
- 31:07Speaker 3: Ryan, you came here for the first time last year.
- 31:09Speaker 2: If there was a peer out there or a colleague
- 31:12Speaker 2: who was thinking about coming to experience, what would you
- 31:15Speaker 2: tell them about why they should attend and who.
- 31:17Speaker 3: Should come and what should they be looking to find out?
- 31:22Speaker 8: Honestly everything.
- 31:25Speaker 10: If there's a session you can sign up for and
- 31:26Speaker 10: you don't know what it's about, you should be in
- 31:29Speaker 10: that session.
- 31:29Speaker 8: You should be taking notes.
- 31:31Speaker 10: It's definitely going to come in handy later, even if
- 31:34Speaker 10: it doesn't make sense today, and then that can be
- 31:37Speaker 10: a good talking point later as you're networking with people,
- 31:39Speaker 10: say Hey, I attended this session, I wrote this down,
- 31:43Speaker 10: what does it mean?
- 31:43Speaker 8: Do you understand this?
- 31:45Speaker 10: And it's just a good way to start generating conversation
- 31:48Speaker 10: and learn everything you can while you're here.
- 31:50Speaker 2: Fantastic, Ryan, stay with us a moment, but huge thanks
- 31:53Speaker 2: to Ryan.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Round of the plause.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Thanks Ryan, Thanks Man, Thanks for coming on, Thanks for
- 31:57Speaker 2: joining us again, and thanks for everybody for coming to
- 32:01Speaker 2: join us with the Dex Show Live. Tim, You're on
- 32:03Speaker 2: the Spotlight Stage a lot the next couple of days,
- 32:06Speaker 2: is that right?
- 32:06Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be m seeing some of our partners to
- 32:08Speaker 4: come up and talk a little bit to quick ten
- 32:10Speaker 4: minute lightning talk about the services or products that they've
- 32:12Speaker 4: got that really help contribute to the Deck's ecosystem.
- 32:15Speaker 3: Amazing.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Make sure you drop by the Spotlight Stage as often
- 32:19Speaker 2: as you can. Final plug for that dex Equation report.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Check it out of the Ambassador's Hub. We'll go online
- 32:25Speaker 2: to find it some really really striking data. We've had
- 32:27Speaker 2: a lot of feedback about that being really really useful
- 32:30Speaker 2: and insightful research.
- 32:32Speaker 3: And look just I'm Tom McGrath, this is Tim Flower.
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- 32:49Speaker 5: Thank apreciate job. Thank you for.
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