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1962 Mets 1B Jim Marshall, 1969 World Series champ Ron Swoboda · WGBB Sports Talk New York

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  our
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  first
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  guest,
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  he
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  spent
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  five
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  full
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  years
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  in
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  Major
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  League
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  Baseball
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  as
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  a
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  first
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  baseman,
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  outfielder
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  and
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  pinch
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  hitter,
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  including
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  a
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  stint
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  with
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  the
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  1962
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  Mets.
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  Then
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  he
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  played
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  in
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  Japan
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  from
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  63
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  to
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  65.
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  After
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  his
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  playing
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  career,
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  he
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  managed
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  the
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  Cubs
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  and
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  the
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  Athletics.
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  I
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  welcome
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  to
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  Sports
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  Talk
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  New
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  York.
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  Tonight,
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  Jim
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  Marshall.
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  Jim,
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  good
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  evening.
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  Good
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  evening.
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  It's
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  a
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  pleasure
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  to
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  talk
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  to
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  someone
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  in
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  New
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  York.
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  Wonderful,
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  Jim.
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  We
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  got
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  the
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  time
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  straightened
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  out,
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  so
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  we're
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  good
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  to
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  go.
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  I
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  told
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  you
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  I'd
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  be
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  here.
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  There
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  you
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  go.
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  Yeah.
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  Now,
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  Jim,
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  you
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  were
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  born
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  in
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  Illinois,
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  raised
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  in
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  Long
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  Beach.
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  Who
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  are
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  your
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  teams
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  and
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  your
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  heroes
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  as
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  a
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  youngster?
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  Well,
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  all
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  my
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  heroes
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  in
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  the
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  youngster,
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  which
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  probably
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  not
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  too
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  many
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  New
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  York
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  people
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  know.
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  It
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  was
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  the
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  Pacific
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  Coast
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  League.
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  It
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  was
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  the
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  Triple
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  A
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  teams
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  and
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  the
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  first
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  basemans
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  were
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  my
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  idols
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  growing
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  up
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  that
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  played
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  in
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  League.
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  Nick
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  Etman
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  one
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  them.
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  And
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  there
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  was
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  Billy
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  Barton
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  was
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  one.
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  And
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  then
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  there
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  was
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  one
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  more.
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  I
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  can't
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  remember
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  right
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  now.
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  It's
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  been
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  too
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  long
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  ago.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  hear
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  you,
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  Jim.
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  Now,
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  you
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  played
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  for
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  Long
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  Beach
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  State,
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  and
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  that
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  was
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  before
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  the
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  dirt
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  bag
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  days
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  of
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  Long
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  Beach
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  State,
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  right?
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  Oh,
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  absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  I
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  wouldn't
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  be
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  a
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  dirt
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  bag.
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  No,
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  no,
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  no.
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  For
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  those
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  folks
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  who
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  may
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  not
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  know
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  the,
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  the
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  baseball
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  team
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  at
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  Long
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  Beach
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  State,
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  they
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  are
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  called
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  the
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  dirt
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  bags
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  now.
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  So
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  we're
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  not
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  saying
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  Jim
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  was
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  one,
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  but
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  that's
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  what
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  they're
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  called
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  now.
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  Now,
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  check
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  with
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  you
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  on
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  one
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  thing,
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  Jim.
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  You
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  were
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  recruited
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  by
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  the
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  great
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  John
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  Wooden.
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  That's
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  correct.
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  I
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  went
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  to,
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  I
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  played
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  basketball
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  at
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  Compton
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  and
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  Woodley
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  came
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  down
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  after
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  one
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  of
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  our
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  games
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  and
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  told
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  me
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  he'd
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  like
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  to
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  have
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  me
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  play
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  on
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  his
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  team.
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  And
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  obviously
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  it
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  was
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  a
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  full
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  scholarship.
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  honored
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  and
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  very
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  excited
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  in
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  the
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  moment
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  because
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  I
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  had
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  made
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  up
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  my
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  mind
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  whether
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  I'm
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  going
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  to
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  play
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  baseball
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  or
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  basketball.
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  So
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  the
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  longevity
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  says
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  I
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  made
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  the
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  right
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  choice.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  would
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  say
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  that,
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  Jim.
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  Now,
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  every
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  major
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  league
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  team
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  was
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  interested
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  in
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  you,
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  though,
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  at
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  one
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  point.
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  Well,
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  it
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  seemed
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  like
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  quite
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  a
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  few.
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  It
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  was
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  kind
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  of
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  a,
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  you
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  know,
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  I'm
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  just
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  in
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  high
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  school,
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  one
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  year
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  into
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  junior
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  college
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  when
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  I
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  signed,
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  so
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  you
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  can
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  imagine
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  all
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  of
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  the
• 2:52
  thoughts
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  and
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  somewhat
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  confusing.
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  My
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  dad
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  got
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  me
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  through
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  some
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  of
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  those
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  times.
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  There
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  were
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  teams.
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  Yes.
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  Now,
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  I
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  had
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  read,
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  Jim,
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  that
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  you
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  and
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  your
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  dad
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  met
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  with
• 3:04
  Branch
• 3:04
  Rickey
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  and
• 3:05
  George
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  Sisler
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  at
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  a
• 3:07
  Cocha
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  School
• 3:08
  in
• 3:08
  St.
• 3:08
  Louis
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  Obispo.
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  That's
• 3:10
  pretty
• 3:11
  good
• 3:11
  company.
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  That
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  is
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  absolutely
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  correct.
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  My
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  father
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  followed
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  Ricky
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  a
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  long
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  time
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  and
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  really
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  liked
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  him.
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  And
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  those
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  two
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  were
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  the
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  nicest
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  people
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  that
• 3:23
  I
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  probably
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  ever
• 3:24
  met
• 3:24
  and
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  didn't
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  realize
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  the
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  value
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  till
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  later
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  on
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  in
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  my
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  life.
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  Yeah,
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  that
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  must
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  have
• 3:30
  been
• 3:30
  some
• 3:30
  meeting.
• 3:30
  I'll
• 3:31
  tell
• 3:31
  you.
• 3:31
  Now,
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  you
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  started
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  out
• 3:33
  at
• 3:33
  the
• 3:33
  Polo
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  Grounds.
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  Before
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  you
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  ever
• 3:35
  played
• 3:35
  with
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  Mets,
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  you
• 3:37
  played
• 3:37
  in
• 3:37
  the
• 3:37
  Hearst
• 3:38
  Sandlot
• 3:38
  Classic
• 3:39
  in
• 3:39
  the
• 3:39
  Polo
• 3:39
  Grounds.
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  No,
• 3:42
  sir.
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  I
• 3:42
  played
• 3:42
  in
• 3:43
  Yankee
• 3:43
  Stadium.
• 3:44
  Oh,
• 3:44
  okay.
• 3:45
  Sabre
• 3:45
  was
• 3:45
  wrong
• 3:46
  then.
• 3:46
  All
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  right,
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  1949,
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  right?
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  Yeah,
• 3:50
  I
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  stand
• 3:51
  corrected,
• 3:52
  Jim.
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  Okay,
• 3:52
  I'll
• 3:53
  have
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  make.
• 3:53
  Well,
• 3:53
  I
• 3:54
  hated
• 3:54
  to
• 3:54
  do
• 3:54
  that
• 3:54
  to
• 3:55
  you,
• 3:55
  but.
• 3:56
  No,
• 3:56
  go
• 3:57
  right
• 3:57
  ahead.
• 3:57
  No,
• 3:57
  that's.
• 3:58
  That's
• 3:58
  how
• 3:59
  we
• 3:59
  learn,
• 3:59
  Jim.
• 3:59
  That's
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  how
• 4:00
  we
• 4:00
  learn.
• 4:00
  Now,
• 4:02
  you
• 4:02
  were
• 4:02
  guests
• 4:03
  after
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  game
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  great
• 4:05
  Tom
• 4:05
  Yorkey,
• 4:05
  the
• 4:06
  owner
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  the
• 4:06
  Boston
• 4:07
  Red
• 4:07
  Sox.
• 4:09
  Yes,
• 4:09
  I
• 4:10
  did
• 4:10
  meet
• 4:10
  him
• 4:10
  and
• 4:11
  talked
• 4:11
  a
• 4:12
  little
• 4:12
  bit
• 4:12
  about
• 4:12
  the
• 4:12
  Red
• 4:12
  Sox.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  didn't
• 4:14
  actually
• 4:15
  work
• 4:15
  out
• 4:15
  for
• 4:15
  him,
• 4:16
  though.
• 4:16
  It
• 4:16
  was
• 4:17
  just
• 4:17
  at
• 4:17
  the
• 4:17
  event
• 4:17
  you're
• 4:18
  talking
• 4:18
  about
• 4:18
  is
• 4:19
  when
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  saw
• 4:19
  him.
• 4:20
  All
• 4:20
  right.
• 4:21
  Now,
• 4:21
  you.
• 4:22
  You
• 4:22
  signed
• 4:22
  a
• 4:22
  contract
• 4:24
  for
• 4:24
  an
• 4:25
  undisclosed
• 4:26
  amount
• 4:26
  with
• 4:27
  the
• 4:27
  Oakland
• 4:27
  Oaks
• 4:28
  in
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  Pacific
• 4:28
  Coast
• 4:29
  League.
• 4:30
  Now,
• 4:31
  you
• 4:31
  had
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  pretty
• 4:32
  good
• 4:32
  career
• 4:32
  in
• 4:32
  the
• 4:32
  Pacific
• 4:33
  Coast
• 4:33
  League.
• 4:35
  You
• 4:35
  know,
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  be
• 4:36
  honest
• 4:36
  with
• 4:36
  you,
• 4:37
  I
• 4:37
  want
• 4:37
  to
• 4:37
  hurt
• 4:37
  anybody's
• 4:38
  feelings,
• 4:39
  but
• 4:39
  we
• 4:39
  live
• 4:40
  on
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  Coast.
• 4:40
  The
• 4:41
  Coast
• 4:41
  League
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  big
• 4:42
  league.
• 4:43
  Yeah,
• 4:43
  we
• 4:43
  loved
• 4:44
  it.
• 4:44
  We
• 4:44
  loved
• 4:44
  the
• 4:44
  players.
• 4:45
  And,
• 4:46
  you
• 4:47
  know,
• 4:47
  a
• 4:47
  week
• 4:47
  at
• 4:47
  a
• 4:47
  time
• 4:48
  in
• 4:48
  a
• 4:48
  town
• 4:49
  and,
• 4:50
  you
• 4:51
  know,
• 4:51
  Hollywood,
• 4:52
  Los
• 4:52
  Angeles,
• 4:53
  Seattle,
• 4:54
  all.
• 4:54
  Just
• 4:55
  all
• 4:55
  fun
• 4:55
  places
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  be.
• 4:57
  We're
• 4:57
  speaking
• 4:57
  with
• 4:58
  Jim
• 4:58
  Marshall
• 4:58
  tonight
• 4:59
  on
• 4:59
  the
• 4:59
  program.
• 4:59
  Now,
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  manager
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  Oakland
• 5:02
  Oaks
• 5:02
  was
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  guy
• 5:02
  of
• 5:03
  some
• 5:03
  renowned
• 5:04
  by
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  name
• 5:04
  of
• 5:04
  Chuck
• 5:04
  Dressen.
• 5:06
  Yes,
• 5:07
  he's
• 5:07
  one
• 5:07
  of
• 5:08
  my
• 5:08
  two
• 5:08
  favorite
• 5:08
  managers,
• 5:09
  and
• 5:10
  believe
• 5:10
  me,
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  played
• 5:10
  for
• 5:11
  a
• 5:11
  lot
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  them.
• 5:14
  And
• 5:15
  Charlie
• 5:15
  Dressen
• 5:17
  was
• 5:18
  very
• 5:18
  direct,
• 5:20
  very.
• 5:21
  He
• 5:21
  knew
• 5:21
  the
• 5:22
  baseball
• 5:22
  game
• 5:22
  very
• 5:23
  well.
• 5:24
  And
• 5:24
  one
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  his
• 5:24
  assistants,
• 5:25
  Cookie
• 5:25
  Lavajetto,
• 5:27
  is
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  one
• 5:28
  that
• 5:28
  helped
• 5:29
  me
• 5:29
  along
• 5:29
  the
• 5:30
  way
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  be
• 5:31
  successful
• 5:31
  in
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  Coastal
• 5:32
  League.
• 5:32
  Now,
• 5:33
  you
• 5:34
  met
• 5:34
  up
• 5:35
  with
• 5:35
  Cookie
• 5:35
  later
• 5:35
  on
• 5:36
  with
• 5:36
  the
• 5:36
  Mets.
• 5:38
  Yes,
• 5:39
  he
• 5:39
  was
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  lifesaver
• 5:40
  for
• 5:40
  me.
• 5:40
  He
• 5:40
  was
• 5:41
  my
• 5:41
  communication.
• 5:42
  He
• 5:42
  was
• 5:43
  my
• 5:43
  friend,
• 5:44
  and
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  always
• 5:45
  appreciate
• 5:46
  what
• 5:46
  he
• 5:46
  did
• 5:46
  for
• 5:47
  me.
• 5:48
  A
• 5:48
  great
• 5:48
  baseball
• 5:49
  man,
• 5:50
  Cookie
• 5:50
  Lava.
• 5:50
  Jetto,
• 5:51
  folks.
• 5:51
  Google
• 5:52
  him,
• 5:52
  you'll
• 5:52
  see
• 5:53
  a
• 5:54
  very
• 5:54
  distinguished
• 5:55
  career.
• 5:55
  Now,
• 5:56
  at
• 5:56
  one
• 5:57
  point,
• 5:57
  you
• 5:58
  were
• 5:58
  mentioned
• 5:58
  with
• 5:59
  Jackie
• 5:59
  Jensen
• 5:59
  or
• 6:00
  Billy
• 6:00
  Martin
• 6:00
  that
• 6:00
  you
• 6:01
  may
• 6:01
  be
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  bigger
• 6:01
  name
• 6:02
  than
• 6:02
  those
• 6:02
  guys.
• 6:03
  What
• 6:03
  did
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  think
• 6:03
  of
• 6:04
  that,
• 6:04
  Jim?
• 6:05
  I
• 6:05
  didn't
• 6:05
  ever
• 6:06
  know
• 6:06
  that.
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  will
• 6:08
  not
• 6:08
  Make
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  comment
• 6:09
  because
• 6:10
  it
• 6:10
  didn't
• 6:10
  come
• 6:11
  true.
• 6:13
  No,
• 6:13
  that's
• 6:13
  true.
• 6:14
  Yeah.
• 6:14
  But
• 6:14
  still
• 6:15
  to
• 6:15
  be
• 6:15
  mentioned
• 6:15
  and
• 6:16
  in
• 6:16
  the
• 6:16
  same
• 6:16
  breath
• 6:17
  as
• 6:17
  those
• 6:17
  guys,
• 6:18
  pretty
• 6:19
  good.
• 6:21
  Well,
• 6:21
  it
• 6:21
  was
• 6:22
  pretty
• 6:22
  good
• 6:22
  until
• 6:25
  Billy
• 6:25
  Martin
• 6:25
  took
• 6:26
  over
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  Oakland
• 6:26
  80s
• 6:27
  in
• 6:27
  1980.
• 6:28
  And
• 6:29
  you're
• 6:29
  talking
• 6:29
  to
• 6:29
  the
• 6:30
  manager
• 6:30
  who
• 6:30
  was
• 6:30
  there
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  1990,
• 6:33
  1979.
• 6:37
  He
• 6:37
  took
• 6:37
  over.
• 6:38
  We'll
• 6:38
  leave
• 6:39
  it
• 6:39
  at
• 6:39
  that.
• 6:39
  Okay.
• 6:39
  Yeah,
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  understand.
• 6:40
  Yeah,
• 6:41
  we
• 6:41
  get
• 6:41
  you
• 6:42
  there,
• 6:42
  Jim.
• 6:42
  Now,
• 6:44
  in
• 6:44
  your
• 6:44
  first
• 6:44
  season
• 6:45
  as
• 6:45
  a
• 6:45
  pro,
• 6:45
  Jim,
• 6:46
  three
• 6:47
  36,
• 6:47
  19
• 6:48
  doubles,
• 6:49
  17
• 6:49
  triples,
• 6:50
  15
• 6:50
  homers.
• 6:51
  You
• 6:52
  slugged
• 6:52
  at
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  clip
• 6:53
  of.631.
• 6:55
  The
• 6:55
  Dukes
• 6:56
  finished
• 6:57
  second
• 6:58
  and
• 6:59
  four
• 6:59
  games
• 6:59
  to
• 7:00
  go
• 7:00
  for
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  West
• 7:00
  Texas
• 7:01
  New
• 7:01
  Mexico
• 7:02
  League
• 7:02
  championship.
• 7:03
  Pretty
• 7:03
  good
• 7:03
  season.
• 7:05
  Yes.
• 7:06
  It
• 7:06
  was
• 7:06
  just
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  little
• 7:06
  over
• 7:07
  half
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  season
• 7:08
  because
• 7:08
  when
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  signed,
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  couldn't
• 7:10
  go
• 7:10
  till
• 7:11
  school
• 7:11
  was
• 7:11
  over.
• 7:12
  But
• 7:13
  I
• 7:13
  had
• 7:13
  a
• 7:13
  great
• 7:14
  manager
• 7:14
  in
• 7:14
  Herschel
• 7:15
  Martin,
• 7:15
  who
• 7:15
  played
• 7:16
  for
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  Yankees
• 7:17
  two
• 7:17
  or
• 7:17
  three
• 7:18
  years
• 7:18
  during
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  war
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  center
• 7:19
  field
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  a
• 7:21
  man's
• 7:21
  man.
• 7:21
  And,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  know,
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  never
• 7:24
  dreamed
• 7:25
  that
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  could
• 7:25
  hit
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  home
• 7:26
  run
• 7:26
  in
• 7:26
  Albuquerque.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:27
  then
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  go
• 7:27
  directly
• 7:28
  to
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  fence
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  fence
• 7:30
  starts
• 7:30
  you
• 7:30
  off
• 7:30
  with
• 7:31
  $5.
• 7:32
  And
• 7:32
  you
• 7:33
  really
• 7:33
  hope
• 7:33
  they
• 7:34
  hit
• 7:34
  a
• 7:34
  home
• 7:34
  run
• 7:35
  when
• 7:35
  there
• 7:36
  weren't
• 7:36
  two
• 7:36
  outs
• 7:37
  so
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  could
• 7:37
  make
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  whole
• 7:38
  lineup.
• 7:39
  Okay,
• 7:40
  so
• 7:40
  that
• 7:41
  was
• 7:41
  a
• 7:41
  special
• 7:42
  time
• 7:42
  for
• 7:42
  me.
• 7:43
  Yeah.
• 7:44
  What
• 7:44
  a
• 7:44
  bonus
• 7:45
  that
• 7:45
  proved
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  be.
• 7:46
  Now
• 7:47
  in
• 7:48
  51,
• 7:48
  Jim,
• 7:49
  you're
• 7:49
  promoted
• 7:50
  from
• 7:50
  Class
• 7:50
  C
• 7:51
  all
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  way
• 7:51
  up
• 7:51
  to
• 7:52
  aaa.
• 7:53
  Pretty
• 7:54
  good
• 7:54
  jump.
• 7:56
  Yes,
• 7:57
  it
• 7:57
  was
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  jump
• 7:58
  that
• 7:59
  was
• 7:59
  pretty
• 7:59
  good
• 7:59
  to
• 8:00
  me
• 8:00
  as
• 8:00
  far
• 8:00
  as
• 8:01
  the.
• 8:01
  But
• 8:01
  the
• 8:02
  curveball
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  hadn't
• 8:04
  seen
• 8:04
  too
• 8:04
  much
• 8:04
  of
• 8:05
  in
• 8:05
  my
• 8:05
  life,
• 8:05
  and
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  think
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  was
• 8:07
  sent
• 8:07
  out
• 8:07
  in
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  middle
• 8:07
  of
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  year.
• 8:08
  But
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  enjoyed
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  time
• 8:10
  and
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  players
• 8:11
  while
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  was
• 8:11
  there.
• 8:13
  Yeah,
• 8:13
  and
• 8:14
  as
• 8:15
  I
• 8:15
  said,
• 8:15
  pretty
• 8:16
  good
• 8:16
  movement
• 8:16
  in
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  minor
• 8:17
  leagues
• 8:17
  there.
• 8:18
  Now,
• 8:19
  you
• 8:19
  went
• 8:19
  to
• 8:19
  spring
• 8:20
  training
• 8:20
  in
• 8:20
  52
• 8:21
  with
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  Oakland
• 8:22
  Oaks,
• 8:22
  but
• 8:23
  in
• 8:23
  March,
• 8:24
  your
• 8:24
  option
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  Nashville
• 8:26
  and
• 8:26
  the
• 8:26
  AA
• 8:27
  Southern
• 8:28
  Association.
• 8:28
  That's
• 8:29
  one
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  my
• 8:29
  favorite
• 8:30
  minor
• 8:30
  league
• 8:30
  teams,
• 8:31
  Jim,
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  Nashville
• 8:32
  sounds.
• 8:34
  Yes.
• 8:34
  Well,
• 8:34
  they
• 8:34
  were
• 8:34
  the
• 8:35
  Nashville
• 8:35
  Vols
• 8:36
  when
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  played.
• 8:36
  Oh,
• 8:37
  okay,
• 8:37
  Tennessee.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:39
  they
• 8:39
  played
• 8:39
  in
• 8:39
  Sulphur
• 8:40
  Dell.
• 8:41
  Have
• 8:41
  you
• 8:41
  ever
• 8:41
  heard
• 8:42
  of.
• 8:42
  That
• 8:42
  was
• 8:42
  the
• 8:43
  name
• 8:43
  of
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  field.
• 8:44
  It
• 8:44
  was
• 8:44
  down.
• 8:45
  It
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  down,
• 8:45
  way
• 8:46
  down
• 8:46
  on
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  ground.
• 8:46
  And
• 8:47
  it
• 8:47
  was
• 8:47
  hotter
• 8:47
  than
• 8:48
  you
• 8:48
  can
• 8:48
  believe.
• 8:48
  Oh,
• 8:49
  I
• 8:49
  can
• 8:49
  imagine.
• 8:51
  It
• 8:51
  was
• 8:51
  a
• 8:51
  great
• 8:51
  season
• 8:52
  with
• 8:52
  some
• 8:52
  very
• 8:53
  great
• 8:53
  players.
• 8:53
  It
• 8:53
  was
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  farm
• 8:54
  team
• 8:54
  for
• 8:54
  the
• 8:55
  Giants.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  any
• 8:56
  guys
• 8:57
  along
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  way
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  mentioned
• 8:58
  Cookie
• 8:58
  Lavajetto.
• 8:59
  Any
• 9:00
  other
• 9:00
  guys
• 9:00
  along
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  way,
• 9:01
  maybe
• 9:02
  we
• 9:02
  would
• 9:02
  know
• 9:03
  that
• 9:03
  really
• 9:03
  had
• 9:03
  an
• 9:04
  impact
• 9:04
  on
• 9:04
  your
• 9:04
  career
• 9:05
  when
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  were
• 9:05
  in
• 9:05
  the
• 9:06
  minors?
• 9:07
  Oh,
• 9:07
  boy.
• 9:08
  Oh,
• 9:10
  a
• 9:10
  lot
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  guys
• 9:10
  helped
• 9:11
  me
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  minors.
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  wouldn't
• 9:13
  be
• 9:14
  fair
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  mention
• 9:14
  one
• 9:15
  and
• 9:15
  not
• 9:15
  the
• 9:15
  other.
• 9:16
  I'll
• 9:16
  just
• 9:16
  tell
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  that
• 9:17
  I
• 9:18
  had
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  lot
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  great
• 9:18
  managers
• 9:19
  who
• 9:19
  became
• 9:19
  big
• 9:20
  league
• 9:20
  managers
• 9:20
  later
• 9:21
  on
• 9:21
  also.
• 9:22
  Right.
• 9:22
  Names.
• 9:23
  I'm
• 9:23
  sorry,
• 9:23
  I
• 9:24
  haven't
• 9:24
  gotten.
• 9:25
  That's
• 9:25
  fine.
• 9:26
  That's
• 9:26
  fine.
• 9:27
  Now,
• 9:27
  in
• 9:28
  53,
• 9:28
  you're
• 9:28
  the
• 9:29
  regular
• 9:29
  first
• 9:29
  baseman
• 9:30
  for
• 9:30
  Oakland.
• 9:31
  You
• 9:32
  played
• 9:32
  151
• 9:33
  games,
• 9:34
  hit.273,
• 9:35
  24
• 9:35
  homers,
• 9:36
  99
• 9:37
  ribbies.
• 9:38
  And
• 9:38
  then
• 9:38
  in
• 9:39
  54,
• 9:39
  you
• 9:40
  hit.285,
• 9:41
  31
• 9:42
  homers
• 9:42
  and
• 9:43
  123
• 9:44
  RBIs.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  that's
• 9:45
  in
• 9:45
  166
• 9:46
  games,
• 9:46
  folks.
• 9:48
  That's
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  pretty
• 9:49
  good
• 9:49
  clip
• 9:49
  right
• 9:49
  there.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:51
  after
• 9:51
  that,
• 9:52
  the
• 9:53
  Oaks
• 9:53
  invested
• 9:54
  in
• 9:54
  you,
• 9:55
  selling
• 9:56
  you
• 9:56
  and
• 9:57
  pitcher
• 9:57
  Don
• 9:58
  Ferries
• 9:58
  to
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  White
• 9:59
  Sox
• 10:00
  for
• 10:00
  Ferrezzi.
• 10:04
  Yeah,
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  missed
• 10:05
  that
• 10:06
  one,
• 10:06
  Jim.
• 10:06
  Yeah.
• 10:07
  For
• 10:08
  50
• 10:08
  grand.
• 10:09
  That's
• 10:09
  a
• 10:09
  lot
• 10:09
  of
• 10:10
  money
• 10:10
  back
• 10:10
  then.
• 10:12
  Yes,
• 10:13
  it
• 10:13
  was.
• 10:13
  And
• 10:15
  my
• 10:15
  contract
• 10:15
  called
• 10:16
  for
• 10:18
  part
• 10:18
  of
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  sales
• 10:19
  money
• 10:19
  would
• 10:19
  go
• 10:19
  to
• 10:20
  me.
• 10:21
  So
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  was
• 10:22
  very
• 10:22
  happy
• 10:23
  to
• 10:23
  have
• 10:23
  that
• 10:23
  happen.
• 10:24
  Yeah,
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  believe
• 10:25
  you
• 10:25
  on
• 10:26
  that
• 10:26
  one.
• 10:27
  Now,
• 10:27
  the
• 10:28
  White
• 10:28
  Sox,
• 10:29
  you
• 10:30
  played
• 10:30
  for
• 10:30
  Marty
• 10:30
  Marion
• 10:31
  there.
• 10:31
  And
• 10:32
  Marty
• 10:32
  Marion,
• 10:33
  folks,
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  can
• 10:33
  Google
• 10:34
  his
• 10:34
  name.
• 10:34
  There's
• 10:34
  another
• 10:35
  great
• 10:35
  baseball
• 10:36
  man.
• 10:36
  How
• 10:36
  is
• 10:36
  Marty
• 10:37
  Marion
• 10:37
  as
• 10:38
  a
• 10:38
  skipper,
• 10:39
  Jim?
• 10:40
  Well,
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  didn't
• 10:41
  get
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  know
• 10:41
  him
• 10:41
  as
• 10:41
  well
• 10:42
  as
• 10:42
  I'd
• 10:42
  like
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  because
• 10:42
  there
• 10:43
  was
• 10:43
  a
• 10:43
  fellow
• 10:43
  named
• 10:43
  Walt
• 10:44
  Dropo
• 10:44
  playing
• 10:44
  first
• 10:45
  base.
• 10:46
  And
• 10:46
  there
• 10:46
  was
• 10:46
  really
• 10:46
  no
• 10:47
  room
• 10:47
  in
• 10:47
  the
• 10:47
  end
• 10:47
  for
• 10:48
  me.
• 10:48
  I
• 10:48
  could
• 10:48
  never
• 10:49
  realize
• 10:49
  why
• 10:49
  they
• 10:50
  took
• 10:50
  me
• 10:51
  in
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  first
• 10:51
  place.
• 10:52
  Yeah,
• 10:52
  Walt
• 10:53
  Dropo,
• 10:53
  folks,
• 10:54
  was
• 10:54
  a
• 10:54
  first
• 10:54
  baseman.
• 10:55
  He
• 10:55
  later
• 10:56
  won
• 10:56
  Rookie
• 10:57
  of
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  Year
• 10:57
  with
• 10:57
  the
• 10:57
  Boston
• 10:58
  Red
• 10:58
  Sox.
• 10:58
  I
• 10:59
  forget
• 10:59
  what
• 10:59
  year
• 10:59
  it
• 11:00
  was.
• 11:00
  And
• 11:00
  Marty
• 11:01
  Marion,
• 11:01
  who
• 11:02
  we're
• 11:02
  speaking
• 11:02
  of
• 11:03
  as
• 11:03
  the
• 11:04
  manager
• 11:05
  of
• 11:05
  the
• 11:05
  White
• 11:05
  Sox,
• 11:06
  was
• 11:06
  a
• 11:07
  great
• 11:07
  infielder,
• 11:08
  a
• 11:08
  great
• 11:08
  shortstop
• 11:09
  for
• 11:09
  the
• 11:10
  St.
• 11:10
  Louis
• 11:10
  Cardinals.
• 11:11
  And
• 11:11
  you
• 11:12
  could
• 11:12
  Google
• 11:12
  those
• 11:12
  gentlemen's
• 11:13
  name
• 11:13
  and
• 11:14
  see
• 11:14
  what
• 11:14
  great
• 11:15
  careers
• 11:16
  they
• 11:17
  had.
• 11:17
  And
• 11:17
  as
• 11:18
  you
• 11:18
  say,
• 11:18
  Jim,
• 11:19
  they
• 11:19
  used
• 11:19
  Walt
• 11:20
  at
• 11:20
  first
• 11:20
  base
• 11:21
  and
• 11:21
  they
• 11:21
  sent
• 11:21
  you
• 11:22
  back
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  Oakland.
• 11:24
  Yes,
• 11:25
  they
• 11:25
  did.
• 11:26
  And
• 11:27
  here
• 11:28
  we
• 11:28
  go
• 11:28
  again.
• 11:29
  Yeah,
• 11:30
  but
• 11:31
  you
• 11:31
  had
• 11:32
  another
• 11:32
  good
• 11:32
  year
• 11:32
  for
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  Oaks.
• 11:35
  I
• 11:36
  love
• 11:36
  playing
• 11:36
  there,
• 11:37
  loved
• 11:37
  playing
• 11:37
  in
• 11:37
  Oakland.
• 11:38
  It
• 11:39
  was.
• 11:40
  It
• 11:41
  just
• 11:41
  seemed
• 11:41
  like
• 11:42
  where
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  belonged.
• 11:43
  Okay.
• 11:43
  I
• 11:43
  guess
• 11:43
  is
• 11:43
  best
• 11:44
  way
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  say
• 11:45
  it
• 11:46
  now.
• 11:46
  Can
• 11:46
  you
• 11:47
  believe
• 11:47
  the
• 11:47
  trouble
• 11:48
  that
• 11:48
  they're
• 11:49
  having
• 11:49
  to
• 11:49
  keep
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  team
• 11:50
  in
• 11:51
  Oakland
• 11:51
  now,
• 11:52
  Jim?
• 11:53
  So
• 11:53
  many
• 11:53
  years
• 11:54
  they
• 11:55
  had
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  very
• 11:56
  successful
• 11:56
  club
• 11:57
  out
• 11:57
  in
• 11:57
  Oakland
• 11:58
  with
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  world
• 12:00
  championships
• 12:01
  that
• 12:01
  they
• 12:01
  won
• 12:01
  in
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  70s.
• 12:03
  Now
• 12:03
  they
• 12:03
  can't
• 12:03
  keep
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  team
• 12:04
  there.
• 12:07
  I
• 12:08
  think
• 12:08
  it
• 12:08
  has
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  do
• 12:08
  with
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  lease
• 12:09
  on
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  stadium,
• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  that
• 12:11
  was
• 12:11
  kicked
• 12:11
  around
• 12:12
  for
• 12:12
  10
• 12:12
  or
• 12:12
  15
• 12:13
  years.
• 12:14
  Yeah.
• 12:14
  And
• 12:15
  still
• 12:15
  no.
• 12:16
  No
• 12:18
  resolve.
• 12:18
  Well,
• 12:19
  they're
• 12:20
  building
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  beautiful
• 12:21
  Ballpark
• 12:21
  in
• 12:22
  Las
• 12:22
  Vegas
• 12:22
  for
• 12:22
  them.
• 12:23
  Right.
• 12:24
  So
• 12:25
  two
• 12:25
  more
• 12:25
  years
• 12:26
  after
• 12:26
  this
• 12:26
  one
• 12:27
  and
• 12:27
  they'll
• 12:28
  be
• 12:28
  playing
• 12:29
  first
• 12:29
  class
• 12:29
  place.
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  wonder
• 12:30
  how
• 12:31
  Rob
• 12:31
  Manfred
• 12:32
  feels
• 12:32
  though,
• 12:32
  to
• 12:32
  have
• 12:33
  two
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  his
• 12:33
  franchise
• 12:35
  playing
• 12:35
  in
• 12:35
  minor
• 12:35
  league
• 12:36
  parks.
• 12:36
  That
• 12:36
  can't
• 12:37
  be
• 12:37
  too
• 12:37
  pleasing
• 12:37
  to
• 12:38
  a
• 12:38
  guy
• 12:38
  like
• 12:38
  Rob
• 12:39
  Manfred,
• 12:39
  right,
• 12:40
  Jim?
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  wouldn't
• 12:42
  think
• 12:42
  so.
• 12:44
  That's
• 12:44
  not
• 12:44
  good
• 12:45
  to
• 12:45
  talk
• 12:45
  about.
• 12:46
  Yeah,
• 12:46
  I
• 12:46
  know.
• 12:46
  Yeah,
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  crossed
• 12:48
  the
• 12:48
  line
• 12:48
  there
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  little
• 12:49
  bit,
• 12:49
  but
• 12:51
  that's
• 12:52
  another
• 12:52
  topic
• 12:53
  for
• 12:53
  another
• 12:53
  day.
• 12:54
  We're
• 12:54
  speaking
• 12:54
  with
• 12:55
  Jim
• 12:55
  Marshall
• 12:55
  tonight.
• 12:56
  1962,
• 12:57
  Met
• 12:58
  now
• 12:59
  in
• 12:59
  56,
• 13:00
  Jim,
• 13:00
  you
• 13:00
  go
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  spring
• 13:01
  training
• 13:01
  again
• 13:02
  with
• 13:02
  the
• 13:02
  Chicago
• 13:03
  White
• 13:03
  Sox.
• 13:05
  You
• 13:05
  played
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  Cardinals
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  an
• 13:06
  exhibition
• 13:07
  game
• 13:07
  in
• 13:07
  Memphis.
• 13:08
  Memphis
• 13:09
  was
• 13:09
  a
• 13:09
  good
• 13:09
  baseball
• 13:10
  town.
• 13:11
  It
• 13:11
  was
• 13:11
  great
• 13:12
  there.
• 13:12
  I
• 13:13
  had
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  fortune
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  hitting
• 13:14
  a
• 13:15
  home
• 13:15
  run
• 13:17
  and
• 13:17
  got
• 13:17
  eleven
• 13:18
  hundred
• 13:18
  dollars
• 13:19
  for
• 13:20
  was
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  Memphis
• 13:21
  team
• 13:21
  laundry.
• 13:22
  In
• 13:22
  dead
• 13:22
  center
• 13:23
  field
• 13:24
  there
• 13:24
  was
• 13:24
  a
• 13:25
  sign,
• 13:25
  if
• 13:25
  you
• 13:26
  hit
• 13:26
  it,
• 13:26
  that's
• 13:27
  what
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  won.
• 13:28
  Wow.
• 13:28
  And
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  was
• 13:30
  a
• 13:30
  lucky
• 13:30
  guy.
• 13:30
  It
• 13:31
  was
• 13:31
  great
• 13:31
  because
• 13:32
  two
• 13:32
  great
• 13:33
  players,
• 13:33
  Aaron
• 13:34
  and
• 13:34
  Matthews,
• 13:35
  both
• 13:35
  just
• 13:35
  missed
• 13:36
  it.
• 13:36
  Oh,
• 13:37
  they
• 13:37
  missed
• 13:38
  the
• 13:38
  sign.
• 13:38
  That's
• 13:38
  my
• 13:39
  claim
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  fame.
• 13:40
  Yeah.
• 13:41
  Not
• 13:41
  too
• 13:42
  shabby
• 13:42
  there,
• 13:42
  Jim.
• 13:43
  Yeah.
• 13:44
  So
• 13:44
  you're
• 13:44
  saying
• 13:45
  that
• 13:45
  Eddie
• 13:45
  Matthews
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  Hank
• 13:46
  Aaron
• 13:47
  missed
• 13:47
  the
• 13:48
  sign?
• 13:49
  Yeah,
• 13:49
  they
• 13:49
  didn't
• 13:50
  hit
• 13:50
  it.
• 13:50
  They
• 13:50
  didn't.
• 13:51
  You
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:52
  they
• 13:52
  hit
• 13:52
  him
• 13:52
  probably
• 13:53
  over
• 13:53
  the.
• 13:53
  Yeah,
• 13:54
  right.
• 13:56
  Yeah,
• 13:57
  that's
• 13:57
  true.
• 13:58
  But
• 13:59
  folks
• 13:59
  can
• 13:59
  Google
• 14:00
  also
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  Memphis
• 14:01
  Chicks,
• 14:03
  a
• 14:03
  great
• 14:04
  baseball
• 14:04
  franchise,
• 14:06
  minor
• 14:06
  league
• 14:06
  franchise
• 14:07
  down
• 14:07
  in
• 14:07
  Memphis,
• 14:08
  Tennessee,
• 14:08
  I
• 14:08
  believe
• 14:09
  they
• 14:09
  play
• 14:10
  or
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  played
• 14:11
  last
• 14:11
  in
• 14:11
  a
• 14:12
  ballpark
• 14:12
  named
• 14:12
  after
• 14:13
  Tim
• 14:13
  McCarver
• 14:14
  who
• 14:14
  was
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  Memphis
• 14:16
  chick
• 14:16
  for
• 14:16
  a
• 14:16
  while.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  can
• 14:18
  check
• 14:18
  that
• 14:19
  out,
• 14:19
  folks.
• 14:20
  Now
• 14:20
  again,
• 14:21
  Russell
• 14:22
  Stadium
• 14:22
  was
• 14:22
  the
• 14:22
  name
• 14:23
  when
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  played
• 14:23
  there
• 14:24
  in
• 14:24
  56.
• 14:25
  Okay.
• 14:25
  Yeah,
• 14:25
  with
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  famous
• 14:26
  sign.
• 14:27
  We'll
• 14:27
  remember
• 14:28
  that
• 14:28
  one,
• 14:28
  Jim.
• 14:29
  Now
• 14:30
  good.
• 14:31
  I'm
• 14:31
  still
• 14:32
  sending
• 14:32
  my
• 14:32
  clothes
• 14:33
  out.
• 14:34
  Yeah.
• 14:37
  You
• 14:37
  get.
• 14:38
  Are
• 14:38
  you
• 14:38
  getting
• 14:38
  them
• 14:39
  back
• 14:39
  though,
• 14:39
  Jim?
• 14:39
  That's
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  thing.
• 14:42
  Well,
• 14:42
  you
• 14:42
  know,
• 14:43
  a
• 14:43
  little
• 14:44
  here,
• 14:44
  a
• 14:44
  little
• 14:44
  there.
• 14:45
  Yeah.
• 14:45
  I
• 14:46
  do
• 14:46
  have
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  couple
• 14:47
  of
• 14:47
  funny
• 14:47
  things
• 14:47
  I
• 14:48
  want
• 14:48
  to
• 14:48
  tell
• 14:48
  you.
• 14:48
  Go
• 14:49
  ahead.
• 14:49
  About
• 14:49
  the
• 14:50
  original
• 14:50
  Mets.
• 14:52
  All
• 14:52
  right.
• 14:53
  Opening
• 14:54
  day
• 14:54
  at
• 14:54
  the
• 14:55
  Polar
• 14:55
  Grounds.
• 14:55
  I
• 14:56
  was
• 14:56
  the
• 14:56
  first
• 14:56
  baseman
• 14:57
  because
• 14:57
  Gil
• 14:57
  Hodges
• 14:58
  was
• 14:58
  hurt.
• 14:58
  Right.
• 14:59
  So
• 15:00
  I'm
• 15:00
  playing
• 15:00
  and
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  first
• 15:01
  ground
• 15:01
  ball
• 15:01
  is
• 15:01
  hit
• 15:01
  to
• 15:02
  Don
• 15:02
  Zimmer
• 15:02
  at
• 15:03
  third
• 15:03
  base.
• 15:04
  And
• 15:04
  he
• 15:05
  field
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  throw
• 15:05
  to
• 15:06
  me
• 15:06
  at
• 15:06
  first
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  he
• 15:06
  threw
• 15:07
  it
• 15:07
  all
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  way
• 15:07
  into
• 15:07
  the
• 15:08
  stands
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  it
• 15:10
  never
• 15:10
  got
• 15:10
  any
• 15:10
  better.
• 15:11
  Oh,
• 15:12
  no.
• 15:13
  Yeah,
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  can
• 15:13
  imagine,
• 15:14
  Jim.
• 15:14
  Yeah,
• 15:15
  this
• 15:15
  is
• 15:15
  him.
• 15:16
  And
• 15:17
  we
• 15:18
  had
• 15:18
  a
• 15:18
  catcher
• 15:18
  named
• 15:18
  Choo
• 15:18
  Choo
• 15:19
  Coleman.
• 15:20
  Yes.
• 15:20
  And
• 15:20
  he
• 15:21
  was.
• 15:21
  He
• 15:22
  was
• 15:22
  playing
• 15:22
  one
• 15:23
  and
• 15:24
  we
• 15:24
  were
• 15:24
  really
• 15:24
  getting
• 15:25
  shells.
• 15:25
  So
• 15:26
  Choo
• 15:26
  Choo
• 15:27
  comes
• 15:27
  into
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  dugout
• 15:28
  and
• 15:29
  says.
• 15:31
  Casey
• 15:31
  said
• 15:31
  to
• 15:32
  him,
• 15:33
  what
• 15:33
  are
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  calling.
• 15:34
  What
• 15:34
  are
• 15:34
  those
• 15:34
  pitches?
• 15:35
  And
• 15:36
  he
• 15:36
  said,
• 15:36
  oh,
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  don't
• 15:37
  know.
• 15:38
  And
• 15:38
  Casey
• 15:39
  said,
• 15:39
  when
• 15:40
  you
• 15:40
  go
• 15:40
  out
• 15:40
  next
• 15:40
  inning,
• 15:41
  I
• 15:41
  want
• 15:42
  you
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  be
• 15:43
  able
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  tell
• 15:43
  me
• 15:43
  every
• 15:44
  pitch
• 15:44
  you
• 15:44
  called
• 15:44
  for
• 15:45
  when
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  come
• 15:46
  back
• 15:46
  in
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  dugout.
• 15:47
  Right.
• 15:48
  Well,
• 15:49
  Choo
• 15:49
  Choo
• 15:49
  gets
• 15:50
  in
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  crouch.
• 15:50
  Position
• 15:50
  to
• 15:51
  ready
• 15:51
  to
• 15:51
  catch.
• 15:52
  And
• 15:52
  when
• 15:52
  he
• 15:52
  puts
• 15:52
  his
• 15:53
  finger
• 15:53
  down
• 15:53
  between
• 15:54
  his
• 15:54
  legs,
• 15:55
  he
• 15:55
  looks
• 15:55
  at
• 15:55
  it
• 15:57
  like
• 15:57
  the
• 15:58
  only
• 15:58
  way
• 15:58
  he's
• 15:58
  going
• 15:58
  to
• 15:58
  remember
• 15:59
  it
• 15:59
  is
• 15:59
  if
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  see
• 16:00
  he.
• 16:00
  Looks
• 16:00
  at
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  sign.
• 16:02
  He
• 16:03
  knew
• 16:03
  when
• 16:03
  the
• 16:03
  curve
• 16:04
  and
• 16:04
  the
• 16:04
  fastball.
• 16:05
  So
• 16:05
  he
• 16:05
  had
• 16:05
  it
• 16:05
  all
• 16:05
  ready
• 16:06
  for
• 16:06
  Casey
• 16:06
  when
• 16:07
  he
• 16:07
  came
• 16:08
  out.
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  thought
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  were
• 16:09
  going
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  say
• 16:09
  he
• 16:09
  yelled
• 16:10
  over
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  Casey
• 16:11
  before
• 16:11
  every
• 16:12
  pitch
• 16:12
  what
• 16:13
  it
• 16:13
  was
• 16:13
  that
• 16:13
  would
• 16:13
  have
• 16:13
  been
• 16:14
  equal
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  that
• 16:14
  task.
• 16:15
  Now,
• 16:17
  he
• 16:17
  should
• 16:17
  have
• 16:18
  done
• 16:18
  it
• 16:18
  that
• 16:18
  way.
• 16:19
  Yeah,
• 16:19
  it
• 16:19
  might
• 16:19
  have
• 16:19
  been
• 16:20
  better.
• 16:20
  Now
• 16:21
  I'll
• 16:22
  tell
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  story
• 16:23
  about
• 16:23
  Choo
• 16:23
  Choo
• 16:24
  Coleman.
• 16:24
  He
• 16:25
  was
• 16:25
  on
• 16:25
  the
• 16:26
  air
• 16:26
  with
• 16:26
  Ralph
• 16:26
  Kiner,
• 16:27
  who
• 16:27
  is
• 16:28
  of
• 16:28
  course
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  Mets
• 16:29
  broadcaster
• 16:30
  and
• 16:30
  had
• 16:31
  been
• 16:31
  since
• 16:31
  day
• 16:31
  one.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:33
  he
• 16:33
  gets
• 16:33
  Choo
• 16:34
  Choo
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  he
• 16:34
  says,
• 16:36
  Choo
• 16:36
  Choo,
• 16:36
  what's
• 16:37
  your
• 16:37
  wife's
• 16:37
  name
• 16:37
  and
• 16:37
  what's
• 16:38
  she
• 16:38
  like?
• 16:39
  And
• 16:39
  Choo
• 16:40
  Choo
• 16:40
  says,
• 16:40
  her
• 16:40
  name
• 16:40
  is
• 16:41
  Mrs.
• 16:41
  Coleman
• 16:41
  and
• 16:42
  she
• 16:42
  likes
• 16:42
  me.
• 16:46
  That's
• 16:47
  it.
• 16:47
  We
• 16:47
  got
• 16:47
  him
• 16:48
  figured
• 16:48
  out.
• 16:48
  Yeah.
• 16:49
  Yeah.
• 16:49
  Great
• 16:50
  response,
• 16:51
  folks,
• 16:51
  from
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  great
• 16:52
  Choo
• 16:53
  Choo
• 16:53
  Coleman
• 16:53
  right
• 16:54
  there.
• 16:55
  He's
• 16:55
  a
• 16:55
  great
• 16:55
  kid.
• 16:56
  And
• 16:56
  now
• 16:57
  what
• 16:57
  we
• 16:57
  were
• 16:57
  saying
• 16:58
  about
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  Mets,
• 16:59
  Jim,
• 17:00
  was
• 17:01
  that
• 17:01
  Gil
• 17:02
  was
• 17:02
  hurt
• 17:03
  during
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  home
• 17:04
  opener
• 17:04
  or
• 17:04
  he
• 17:05
  was
• 17:05
  hurt
• 17:06
  before
• 17:06
  the
• 17:06
  home
• 17:06
  opener.
• 17:09
  The
• 17:09
  home
• 17:09
  opener
• 17:10
  for
• 17:10
  us
• 17:10
  was
• 17:10
  in
• 17:11
  St.
• 17:11
  Louis
• 17:12
  and
• 17:12
  Gil
• 17:12
  played
• 17:13
  a.
• 17:14
  Played
• 17:14
  partial
• 17:15
  game
• 17:15
  or
• 17:15
  so,
• 17:16
  but
• 17:16
  he
• 17:16
  had
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  bad
• 17:17
  knee.
• 17:17
  Okay.
• 17:18
  Right.
• 17:18
  So
• 17:19
  when
• 17:19
  we
• 17:19
  came
• 17:19
  back
• 17:19
  to
• 17:20
  Polo
• 17:20
  Grounds,
• 17:21
  I
• 17:21
  was
• 17:21
  it.
• 17:22
  And
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  might
• 17:22
  add,
• 17:23
  I
• 17:24
  might
• 17:24
  be
• 17:24
  one
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  the
• 17:25
  only
• 17:26
  all
• 17:26
  time
• 17:26
  guys
• 17:27
  who
• 17:27
  got
• 17:27
  booed
• 17:28
  when
• 17:28
  they
• 17:29
  named
• 17:29
  me
• 17:29
  and
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  ran
• 17:30
  out
• 17:30
  on
• 17:30
  the
• 17:30
  field.
• 17:31
  So
• 17:31
  it
• 17:31
  was
• 17:32
  Mayor
• 17:32
  Wagner
• 17:32
  and
• 17:33
  me.
• 17:33
  And
• 17:33
  they
• 17:34
  were
• 17:34
  mad
• 17:34
  because
• 17:34
  Gil
• 17:35
  wasn't
• 17:35
  playing
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  they
• 17:35
  didn't
• 17:36
  like
• 17:36
  Wagner.
• 17:36
  Okay.
• 17:37
  Right.
• 17:37
  Yeah,
• 17:39
  yeah,
• 17:39
  they
• 17:39
  took
• 17:40
  it
• 17:40
  out
• 17:40
  on
• 17:40
  you
• 17:40
  guys.
• 17:41
  All
• 17:41
  right.
• 17:43
  Oh,
• 17:44
  boy.
• 17:44
  I
• 17:44
  can
• 17:44
  understand
• 17:45
  that.
• 17:45
  Phil
• 17:45
  Hodges
• 17:46
  was
• 17:47
  obviously
• 17:47
  a
• 17:47
  great
• 17:48
  feral
• 17:48
  and
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  great
• 17:49
  man.
• 17:49
  Oh,
• 17:49
  yeah.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:50
  a
• 17:50
  fan
• 17:50
  favorite.
• 17:51
  All
• 17:51
  those
• 17:51
  guys
• 17:52
  that
• 17:52
  they
• 17:52
  brought
• 17:52
  over
• 17:53
  from
• 17:53
  Brooklyn,
• 17:53
  Zimmer,
• 17:54
  Charlie
• 17:55
  Neal,
• 17:57
  Duke
• 17:57
  Snyder
• 17:57
  later
• 17:58
  on.
• 17:58
  And
• 17:59
  all
• 17:59
  those
• 18:00
  guys
• 18:00
  were
• 18:00
  fan
• 18:01
  favorites
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  they
• 18:02
  did
• 18:02
  that
• 18:02
  for
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  fans
• 18:03
  to
• 18:04
  bring
• 18:04
  those
• 18:04
  guys
• 18:04
  in.
• 18:05
  Good
• 18:06
  public
• 18:07
  relations.
• 18:09
  Snyder
• 18:09
  went
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  Compton.
• 18:10
  He
• 18:11
  went
• 18:11
  to
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  same
• 18:11
  schools
• 18:12
  that
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  went
• 18:12
  to.
• 18:13
  Oh,
• 18:13
  I
• 18:13
  didn't
• 18:13
  know.
• 18:14
  Okay.
• 18:15
  Yeah,
• 18:15
  he
• 18:15
  was.
• 18:15
  He
• 18:16
  was
• 18:16
  four
• 18:16
  years
• 18:16
  ahead
• 18:16
  of
• 18:17
  me.
• 18:17
  But
• 18:18
  after
• 18:18
  his
• 18:18
  success,
• 18:20
  nobody
• 18:21
  ever
• 18:21
  heard
• 18:21
  of
• 18:21
  me
• 18:21
  in
• 18:21
  Compton
• 18:22
  either.
• 18:22
  It
• 18:22
  was
• 18:23
  not
• 18:23
  much
• 18:23
  fun.
• 18:25
  Yeah,
• 18:26
  he
• 18:26
  erased
• 18:27
  you
• 18:27
  from
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  record
• 18:27
  books,
• 18:28
  Jim?
• 18:29
  That's
• 18:29
  right.
• 18:30
  All
• 18:30
  the
• 18:31
  way.
• 18:31
  Some
• 18:32
  of
• 18:32
  my
• 18:32
  batting
• 18:32
  averages,
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  was.
• 18:33
  Glad
• 18:33
  they
• 18:34
  did
• 18:36
  no
• 18:36
  good.
• 18:36
  Now,
• 18:37
  December
• 18:37
  57th,
• 18:38
  the
• 18:39
  White
• 18:39
  Sox
• 18:39
  turn
• 18:39
  around
• 18:40
  and
• 18:40
  trade
• 18:40
  you
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  Larry
• 18:43
  Doby
• 18:44
  and
• 18:44
  Russ
• 18:44
  Heman
• 18:45
  to
• 18:45
  the
• 18:46
  Orioles
• 18:47
  for
• 18:48
  Ray
• 18:48
  Moore
• 18:49
  and
• 18:49
  Billy
• 18:49
  Goodman
• 18:50
  and
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  guy
• 18:51
  by
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  name
• 18:51
  of
• 18:51
  Tito
• 18:52
  Francona,
• 18:53
  who
• 18:53
  is
• 18:53
  the
• 18:54
  father
• 18:54
  of
• 18:55
  Terry
• 18:55
  Francona,
• 18:56
  who's
• 18:56
  managing
• 18:57
  the
• 18:57
  Cincinnati
• 18:57
  Reds
• 18:58
  now.
• 18:58
  So
• 18:59
  you
• 18:59
  go
• 18:59
  over
• 19:01
  to,
• 19:02
  to
• 19:02
  the
• 19:02
  Baltimore
• 19:02
  Orioles
• 19:03
  then?
• 19:04
  Well,
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  actually,
• 19:05
  my
• 19:06
  first
• 19:06
  major
• 19:06
  league
• 19:06
  career
• 19:07
  was
• 19:08
  with
• 19:08
  the
• 19:08
  Baltimore
• 19:08
  Orioles.
• 19:10
  So
• 19:10
  all
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  those
• 19:11
  names,
• 19:12
  I'm
• 19:12
  not
• 19:13
  sure
• 19:13
  they
• 19:13
  were.
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  involved
• 19:15
  in
• 19:15
  all
• 19:15
  of
• 19:15
  them
• 19:15
  because
• 19:16
  I
• 19:16
  stayed
• 19:17
  at
• 19:17
  Baltimore
• 19:18
  and
• 19:19
  enjoyed
• 19:19
  my
• 19:20
  first
• 19:20
  year
• 19:20
  playing
• 19:20
  for
• 19:21
  Paul
• 19:21
  Richards.
• 19:22
  Paul
• 19:22
  Richards?
• 19:22
  Yeah.
• 19:23
  There's
• 19:23
  another
• 19:23
  big
• 19:23
  baseball
• 19:24
  name.
• 19:24
  How,
• 19:24
  how
• 19:25
  is
• 19:25
  he
• 19:25
  as
• 19:25
  a
• 19:25
  skipper,
• 19:26
  Jim?
• 19:28
  He
• 19:28
  was
• 19:28
  a
• 19:28
  very
• 19:28
  good
• 19:29
  communicator
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  loved
• 19:32
  to
• 19:32
  concentrate
• 19:32
  on
• 19:33
  pitching
• 19:33
  and
• 19:34
  teaching
• 19:34
  a
• 19:34
  pitcher
• 19:35
  a
• 19:35
  new
• 19:35
  pitch.
• 19:36
  The
• 19:36
  rest
• 19:36
  of
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  time
• 19:37
  he
• 19:37
  was
• 19:37
  rather
• 19:37
  quiet
• 19:38
  and
• 19:39
  very
• 19:39
  direct.
• 19:40
  And
• 19:40
  I
• 19:41
  got
• 19:41
  to
• 19:41
  know
• 19:41
  him
• 19:41
  after
• 19:42
  I
• 19:42
  was
• 19:42
  through
• 19:42
  as
• 19:42
  a
• 19:42
  player.
• 19:43
  And
• 19:43
  I
• 19:44
  think
• 19:44
  he
• 19:44
  liked
• 19:44
  me
• 19:45
  more
• 19:45
  then
• 19:45
  than
• 19:45
  he
• 19:46
  did
• 19:46
  when
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  played
• 19:46
  for
• 19:47
  him.
• 19:48
  Yeah.
• 19:48
  And
• 19:49
  there's
• 19:49
  another
• 19:49
  story
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  read
• 19:50
  about,
• 19:51
  Jim,
• 19:51
  where
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  walk
• 19:52
  into
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  Cubs
• 19:53
  locker
• 19:54
  room
• 19:54
  when
• 19:54
  you're
• 19:55
  with
• 19:55
  Chicago.
• 19:56
  Bob
• 19:56
  Cheffing,
• 19:57
  who
• 19:57
  later
• 19:57
  was
• 19:58
  the
• 19:58
  GM
• 19:58
  of
• 19:58
  the
• 19:59
  Mets,
• 19:59
  asked
• 20:00
  you,
• 20:00
  are
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  ready
• 20:01
  to
• 20:01
  play?
• 20:01
  And
• 20:01
  what
• 20:02
  did
• 20:02
  you
• 20:02
  say?
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  said,
• 20:05
  absolutely.
• 20:06
  Yeah,
• 20:07
  right.
• 20:08
  Bob
• 20:08
  Cheffing,
• 20:09
  he
• 20:09
  was
• 20:10
  another
• 20:10
  great
• 20:10
  baseball
• 20:11
  name.
• 20:11
  And
• 20:12
  as
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  said,
• 20:12
  folks,
• 20:13
  you'll
• 20:13
  see
• 20:13
  he
• 20:13
  was
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  met.
• 20:14
  He
• 20:14
  was
• 20:14
  a
• 20:14
  GM
• 20:15
  of
• 20:15
  the
• 20:15
  New
• 20:15
  York
• 20:16
  Mets
• 20:16
  in
• 20:16
  the
• 20:16
  70s.
• 20:18
  Now
• 20:19
  he
• 20:19
  was
• 20:19
  my
• 20:19
  neighbor.
• 20:20
  I
• 20:20
  spent
• 20:20
  a
• 20:21
  lot
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  time
• 20:21
  with
• 20:21
  him
• 20:21
  in
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  off
• 20:22
  season.
• 20:23
  He
• 20:23
  was
• 20:23
  a
• 20:24
  very
• 20:24
  nice
• 20:24
  man.
• 20:25
  Loved
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  build
• 20:27
  up.
• 20:27
  A
• 20:28
  guy
• 20:28
  to
• 20:28
  never
• 20:28
  give
• 20:29
  up
• 20:29
  on
• 20:29
  the
• 20:29
  baseball
• 20:29
  deal.
• 20:30
  Yeah.
• 20:31
  Special
• 20:32
  guy.
• 20:33
  How
• 20:33
  was
• 20:33
  it
• 20:33
  playing
• 20:33
  in
• 20:34
  Wrigley
• 20:34
  Field
• 20:34
  back
• 20:35
  during
• 20:35
  your
• 20:35
  tenure,
• 20:36
  Jim?
• 20:38
  Well,
• 20:38
  the
• 20:39
  first
• 20:39
  day
• 20:39
  I
• 20:39
  joined
• 20:39
  the
• 20:40
  Cubs,
• 20:40
  I
• 20:40
  hit
• 20:40
  three
• 20:40
  home
• 20:41
  runs
• 20:42
  and
• 20:42
  I
• 20:43
  thought
• 20:43
  it
• 20:43
  was
• 20:43
  great.
• 20:44
  Yeah.
• 20:45
  And
• 20:45
  then
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  next
• 20:46
  day
• 20:46
  they
• 20:46
  had
• 20:46
  some
• 20:46
  wild
• 20:47
  left
• 20:47
  hander
• 20:47
  pitching
• 20:48
  and
• 20:48
  I
• 20:48
  didn't
• 20:48
  even
• 20:48
  see
• 20:49
  the
• 20:49
  ball.
• 20:49
  I
• 20:50
  couldn't
• 20:50
  figure
• 20:50
  out
• 20:50
  why
• 20:50
  I
• 20:51
  was
• 20:51
  up
• 20:51
  there.
• 20:51
  Oh,
• 20:51
  boy.
• 20:52
  But
• 20:53
  I
• 20:53
  love
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  Cubs.
• 20:54
  The
• 20:54
  Cubs
• 20:54
  fans
• 20:54
  are
• 20:55
  great.
• 20:55
  Now
• 20:56
  when
• 20:56
  I
• 20:56
  played,
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  back
• 20:58
  background
• 20:59
  was
• 20:59
  white
• 20:59
  shirts
• 21:00
  because
• 21:01
  there
• 21:01
  was
• 21:01
  no
• 21:02
  blanked
• 21:03
  off
• 21:03
  for
• 21:04
  hitters
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  be
• 21:05
  able
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  see
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  ball.
• 21:06
  No
• 21:06
  batter's
• 21:06
  eye,
• 21:07
  find
• 21:07
  that
• 21:07
  ball.
• 21:08
  Yeah,
• 21:08
  it's
• 21:09
  tough.
• 21:10
  Yeah,
• 21:10
  that's
• 21:11
  why,
• 21:11
  that's
• 21:12
  why
• 21:12
  he
• 21:12
  hit
• 21:12
  the
• 21:12
  home
• 21:12
  runs.
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  couldn't
• 21:13
  see
• 21:13
  him.
• 21:15
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  Right.
• 21:17
  Now
• 21:18
  you
• 21:18
  also
• 21:20
  went
• 21:20
  to
• 21:20
  the
• 21:21
  Indians
• 21:21
  in
• 21:21
  1960.
• 21:26
  Now,
• 21:27
  this
• 21:27
  is
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  little
• 21:28
  confusing.
• 21:30
  I
• 21:30
  was
• 21:31
  traded
• 21:31
  to
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  Cubs
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  the
• 21:35
  Cubs
• 21:36
  traded
• 21:36
  me
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  Boston.
• 21:39
  To
• 21:40
  Boston.
• 21:40
  Now
• 21:41
  I
• 21:41
  go
• 21:41
  into
• 21:41
  Boston
• 21:43
  and
• 21:43
  in
• 21:44
  spring
• 21:44
  training,
• 21:46
  and
• 21:47
  I
• 21:48
  was
• 21:48
  there
• 21:48
  about
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  week,
• 21:48
  and
• 21:49
  the
• 21:49
  general
• 21:49
  manager
• 21:50
  said,
• 21:51
  we've
• 21:51
  traded
• 21:52
  you
• 21:52
  to
• 21:52
  Cleveland.
• 21:53
  I
• 21:53
  said,
• 21:54
  okay.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:55
  they
• 21:55
  traded
• 21:56
  for
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  catcher
• 21:57
  named
• 21:57
  Sammy
• 21:57
  White,
• 21:58
  who
• 21:58
  was
• 21:58
  excellent,
• 21:59
  big
• 21:59
  name.
• 22:00
  So
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  go
• 22:01
  down
• 22:01
  there
• 22:01
  to
• 22:02
  Tucson,
• 22:02
  where
• 22:02
  they
• 22:03
  are,
• 22:04
  and
• 22:05
  Sammy
• 22:06
  White
• 22:06
  retires.
• 22:07
  So
• 22:08
  they
• 22:09
  had
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  send
• 22:09
  me
• 22:09
  back
• 22:11
  and
• 22:11
  to
• 22:11
  Boston.
• 22:13
  And
• 22:13
  the
• 22:13
  general
• 22:13
  manager
• 22:14
  said,
• 22:15
  you
• 22:16
  stay
• 22:16
  here.
• 22:17
  My
• 22:17
  apartment's
• 22:18
  right
• 22:18
  there
• 22:18
  behind
• 22:18
  Wright
• 22:19
  Field.
• 22:19
  There's
• 22:19
  a
• 22:19
  beautiful
• 22:20
  swimming
• 22:20
  pool.
• 22:21
  Go
• 22:21
  swim
• 22:21
  and
• 22:21
  relax.
• 22:22
  And
• 22:22
  when
• 22:22
  the
• 22:23
  day's
• 22:23
  over,
• 22:23
  I'll
• 22:24
  call
• 22:24
  you,
• 22:24
  let
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  know.
• 22:25
  And
• 22:26
  that's
• 22:26
  when.
• 22:26
  Traded
• 22:27
  to
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  Giants
• 22:28
  was
• 22:29
  a
• 22:29
  big
• 22:30
  break
• 22:30
  for
• 22:30
  me.
• 22:31
  Yeah.
• 22:31
  But
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  thing
• 22:32
  is,
• 22:33
  Jim,
• 22:33
  when
• 22:33
  you
• 22:33
  get
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  Giants,
• 22:35
  there's
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  kid
• 22:35
  at
• 22:36
  first
• 22:36
  base
• 22:37
  by
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  name
• 22:37
  of
• 22:37
  Willie
• 22:38
  McCovey.
• 22:40
  Seemed
• 22:41
  to
• 22:41
  be
• 22:41
  something
• 22:41
  blocking
• 22:42
  my
• 22:42
  career,
• 22:43
  right.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:43
  then
• 22:43
  McAvy
• 22:44
  got
• 22:44
  hurt
• 22:44
  for
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  day
• 22:45
  or
• 22:45
  so,
• 22:45
  and
• 22:46
  I'm
• 22:46
  looking
• 22:46
  forward.
• 22:46
  I'm
• 22:47
  ready.
• 22:47
  Yeah.
• 22:48
  And
• 22:48
  they
• 22:48
  brought
• 22:49
  Cepeda
• 22:49
  in
• 22:49
  from
• 22:50
  left
• 22:50
  field
• 22:50
  to
• 22:50
  play
• 22:50
  first
• 22:51
  base.
• 22:51
  Oh,
• 22:51
  boy.
• 22:52
  So
• 22:53
  that's.
• 22:53
  That's
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  way
• 22:54
  it
• 22:54
  goes.
• 22:54
  But
• 22:55
  it's
• 22:56
  very
• 22:56
  interesting
• 22:57
  because
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  got
• 22:57
  to
• 22:57
  go
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  Japan
• 22:58
  on
• 22:58
  a
• 22:59
  trip,
• 22:59
  a
• 23:00
  goodwill
• 23:00
  trip
• 23:00
  with
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  Giants,
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  I
• 23:02
  played
• 23:02
  pretty
• 23:03
  good
• 23:03
  over
• 23:03
  there.
• 23:03
  The
• 23:04
  Japanese
• 23:04
  became
• 23:04
  interested
• 23:05
  in
• 23:05
  me,
• 23:05
  and.
• 23:07
  That
• 23:07
  set
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  stage.
• 23:09
  Your
• 23:09
  career
• 23:09
  in
• 23:10
  Japan.
• 23:10
  Now,
• 23:10
  what
• 23:11
  were
• 23:11
  you
• 23:11
  telling
• 23:11
  me?
• 23:13
  Your
• 23:13
  connection
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  great
• 23:15
  Ichiro
• 23:15
  Suzuki?
• 23:18
  Well,
• 23:19
  later
• 23:19
  in
• 23:20
  my
• 23:20
  career
• 23:20
  as
• 23:21
  a
• 23:21
  scout,
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  took
• 23:23
  a
• 23:23
  job
• 23:24
  with
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  Oryx
• 23:25
  Blue
• 23:25
  Wave,
• 23:26
  which
• 23:26
  was
• 23:27
  Ichiro's
• 23:28
  team.
• 23:29
  Right.
• 23:29
  And
• 23:29
  they
• 23:30
  wanted
• 23:30
  very
• 23:30
  much
• 23:31
  to
• 23:31
  go
• 23:31
  to
• 23:32
  America.
• 23:33
  So
• 23:34
  we
• 23:34
  had
• 23:34
  dinner
• 23:35
  at
• 23:35
  least
• 23:35
  twice.
• 23:36
  Twice.
• 23:36
  A
• 23:36
  road
• 23:36
  trip.
• 23:37
  Okay.
• 23:38
  And
• 23:38
  he
• 23:39
  was.
• 23:39
  He's
• 23:39
  just
• 23:40
  a
• 23:40
  great
• 23:40
  kid,
• 23:41
  and
• 23:42
  his
• 23:42
  desire
• 23:43
  was
• 23:43
  deeper,
• 23:43
  and
• 23:44
  he
• 23:44
  was
• 23:44
  willing
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  sacrifice
• 23:46
  anything
• 23:46
  in
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  world
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  get
• 23:48
  to
• 23:49
  the
• 23:49
  major
• 23:49
  leagues.
• 23:50
  And
• 23:51
  the
• 23:51
  opportunity
• 23:52
  came,
• 23:53
  and
• 23:53
  as
• 23:53
  you
• 23:53
  know,
• 23:54
  he
• 23:54
  ended
• 23:54
  up
• 23:54
  in
• 23:54
  Seattle.
• 23:56
  I
• 23:57
  tell
• 23:57
  you,
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  had
• 23:59
  a
• 23:59
  few
• 23:59
  tears
• 24:00
  in
• 24:00
  my
• 24:00
  eyes
• 24:00
  when
• 24:00
  I
• 24:01
  heard
• 24:01
  his
• 24:01
  delivery.
• 24:03
  Hall
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  Fame,
• 24:04
  and
• 24:04
  quite
• 24:04
  proud.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:06
  he's
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  wonderful
• 24:07
  kid.
• 24:09
  He's
• 24:09
  such
• 24:09
  a
• 24:09
  good
• 24:09
  guy.
• 24:10
  I'll
• 24:10
  tell
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  what
• 24:10
  he
• 24:10
  did.
• 24:11
  In
• 24:11
  Japan,
• 24:13
  gaijin
• 24:14
  means
• 24:14
  foreigner.
• 24:15
  So
• 24:15
  obviously
• 24:15
  they're
• 24:16
  calling
• 24:16
  me
• 24:16
  a
• 24:16
  guy
• 24:16
  Gene
• 24:17
  all
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  time.
• 24:18
  Now
• 24:18
  when
• 24:18
  he
• 24:18
  comes
• 24:18
  to
• 24:19
  Seattle,
• 24:21
  I
• 24:21
  can't
• 24:21
  wait
• 24:21
  to
• 24:22
  get
• 24:22
  over
• 24:22
  in
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  clubhouse
• 24:23
  and
• 24:24
  say,
• 24:24
  hi,
• 24:24
  guy
• 24:24
  Jean,
• 24:25
  how
• 24:25
  you
• 24:25
  doing?
• 24:27
  Now
• 24:27
  heat
• 24:27
  the
• 24:27
  floor.
• 24:28
  Okay,
• 24:28
  right?
• 24:29
  Yeah.
• 24:30
  Very
• 24:30
  quick
• 24:31
  answer.
• 24:31
  He
• 24:31
  said,
• 24:32
  thank
• 24:32
  you,
• 24:32
  Grandfather.
• 24:33
  So
• 24:34
  it
• 24:34
  only.
• 24:34
  Only
• 24:35
  hurts
• 24:35
  for
• 24:35
  a
• 24:35
  little
• 24:36
  while.
• 24:37
  Yeah.
• 24:37
  Now.
• 24:38
  Now.
• 24:39
  He
• 24:40
  gave
• 24:40
  a
• 24:40
  great
• 24:40
  speech
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  Cooperstown
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  other
• 24:42
  day.
• 24:43
  It
• 24:43
  just
• 24:44
  brought
• 24:44
  tears
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  my
• 24:45
  eyes
• 24:45
  and
• 24:45
  happiness
• 24:46
  and
• 24:47
  remembering
• 24:48
  the
• 24:48
  past.
• 24:49
  If
• 24:49
  there's
• 24:49
  one
• 24:49
  guy
• 24:50
  who
• 24:50
  deserves
• 24:50
  to
• 24:51
  be
• 24:51
  enshrined
• 24:52
  in
• 24:52
  the
• 24:53
  hallowed
• 24:53
  portals
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  Cooperstown.
• 24:55
  It's
• 24:55
  Ichiro.
• 24:56
  What
• 24:56
  a
• 24:57
  great
• 24:57
  career.
• 24:58
  And
• 24:58
  you
• 24:58
  knew
• 24:59
  his
• 24:59
  dad?
• 25:01
  Yes,
• 25:01
  his
• 25:02
  dad
• 25:02
  was
• 25:02
  a
• 25:02
  fan
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  mine
• 25:03
  because
• 25:04
  their
• 25:04
  home
• 25:05
  was
• 25:05
  near
• 25:05
  Nagoya,
• 25:06
  Japan
• 25:06
  and
• 25:07
  that
• 25:07
  was
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  Chunichi
• 25:08
  of
• 25:08
  Arragance.
• 25:09
  That's
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  team
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  played
• 25:10
  for
• 25:11
  in
• 25:11
  Nagoya
• 25:12
  and
• 25:13
  he
• 25:13
  had
• 25:13
  my
• 25:13
  picture
• 25:14
  on
• 25:14
  his
• 25:14
  wall
• 25:15
  and
• 25:15
  I
• 25:15
  was
• 25:15
  his
• 25:16
  guy
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  so
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  felt
• 25:17
  really
• 25:17
  good
• 25:18
  about
• 25:18
  hearing
• 25:18
  that.
• 25:19
  Yeah.
• 25:19
  How
• 25:20
  about
• 25:20
  that
• 25:20
  folks?
• 25:21
  Jim
• 25:21
  Marshall
• 25:22
  is
• 25:22
  with
• 25:22
  us
• 25:22
  tonight.
• 25:23
  The
• 25:23
  favorite
• 25:24
  ball
• 25:24
  player
• 25:25
  of
• 25:25
  the
• 25:25
  father
• 25:25
  of
• 25:26
  Ichiro
• 25:26
  Suzuki.
• 25:27
  Not
• 25:28
  too
• 25:28
  bad,
• 25:29
  not
• 25:30
  too
• 25:30
  bad
• 25:30
  Jim.
• 25:31
  Well,
• 25:32
  it
• 25:32
  was
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  great
• 25:33
  experience
• 25:33
  Japan,
• 25:34
  you
• 25:34
  know,
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  ended
• 25:35
  up
• 25:36
  spending
• 25:37
  seven
• 25:37
  years
• 25:37
  in
• 25:38
  Japan.
• 25:39
  First,
• 25:40
  first
• 25:40
  time
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  around
• 25:41
  as
• 25:42
  a
• 25:42
  player
• 25:43
  and
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  second
• 25:43
  time
• 25:44
  around
• 25:44
  was
• 25:45
  co
• 25:45
  manager
• 25:45
  of
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  Chunichi
• 25:47
  Dragons.
• 25:48
  Now
• 25:48
  you,
• 25:48
  you
• 25:49
  were
• 25:49
  involved
• 25:49
  in
• 25:49
  a
• 25:50
  home
• 25:50
  run
• 25:50
  derby
• 25:50
  with
• 25:51
  Sadaharu.
• 25:51
  Oh,
• 25:54
  I
• 25:54
  wasn't
• 25:55
  involved
• 25:55
  in
• 25:56
  derby,
• 25:56
  it
• 25:56
  was
• 25:56
  just.
• 25:57
  I
• 25:57
  wanted
• 25:57
  to
• 25:57
  catch
• 25:57
  him.
• 25:58
  Yeah.
• 25:58
  And
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  wanted,
• 25:59
  I
• 25:59
  was
• 25:59
  only
• 25:59
  10
• 26:00
  or
• 26:00
  11
• 26:01
  my
• 26:01
  first
• 26:01
  year
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  then
• 26:03
  every
• 26:04
  year
• 26:04
  it
• 26:04
  became
• 26:05
  20
• 26:06
  and
• 26:06
  you
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  could,
• 26:07
  could
• 26:08
  not
• 26:08
  keep
• 26:08
  up
• 26:09
  with
• 26:09
  him.
• 26:09
  He
• 26:09
  was
• 26:09
  a
• 26:10
  great
• 26:10
  guy.
• 26:10
  But
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  did
• 26:10
  teach
• 26:11
  him
• 26:11
  how
• 26:11
  to
• 26:11
  play
• 26:11
  first
• 26:12
  base.
• 26:13
  Very
• 26:13
  interesting,
• 26:14
  help
• 26:14
  him
• 26:15
  and
• 26:15
  it
• 26:15
  was.
• 26:16
  A
• 26:17
  lot
• 26:17
  of
• 26:17
  fun.
• 26:17
  I've
• 26:17
  been
• 26:17
  around
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  long
• 26:18
  time,
• 26:19
  met
• 26:19
  a
• 26:20
  lot
• 26:20
  of
• 26:20
  people
• 26:21
  and
• 26:21
  by
• 26:22
  the
• 26:22
  way
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  would
• 26:22
  like
• 26:22
  for
• 26:23
  the
• 26:23
  people
• 26:24
  in
• 26:24
  a
• 26:25
  Mets
• 26:26
  management,
• 26:27
  I
• 26:27
  would
• 26:27
  like
• 26:27
  to
• 26:27
  thank
• 26:28
  them.
• 26:28
  They
• 26:29
  came
• 26:29
  out
• 26:29
  to
• 26:30
  Arizona
• 26:31
  and
• 26:31
  presented
• 26:32
  a
• 26:32
  Mets
• 26:33
  uniform
• 26:33
  top
• 26:34
  for
• 26:34
  me
• 26:35
  at
• 26:35
  a
• 26:35
  ceremony
• 26:36
  before
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  game
• 26:37
  and
• 26:38
  I
• 26:38
  really
• 26:38
  appreciate
• 26:39
  it
• 26:39
  and
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  want
• 26:39
  them
• 26:40
  to
• 26:40
  know
• 26:40
  and
• 26:41
  I'm
• 26:41
  sure
• 26:41
  you
• 26:41
  will
• 26:42
  let
• 26:42
  them
• 26:42
  know
• 26:42
  for
• 26:42
  me.
• 26:43
  Okay,
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  will
• 26:44
  Jim.
• 26:44
  Yeah,
• 26:44
  I'll
• 26:44
  tell
• 26:44
  Jay
• 26:45
  Horowitz
• 26:45
  and
• 26:46
  he'll
• 26:46
  pass
• 26:46
  the,
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  information
• 26:48
  on
• 26:48
  to
• 26:49
  Steve
• 26:49
  Cohen.
• 26:50
  Yes.
• 26:50
  Who
• 26:50
  is
• 26:50
  the
• 26:50
  new.
• 26:51
  That
• 26:52
  would
• 26:52
  be
• 26:52
  perfect.
• 26:52
  I
• 26:53
  really
• 26:53
  appreciate
• 26:53
  it.
• 26:53
  I
• 26:54
  will
• 26:54
  do
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  Jim.
• 26:55
  Now
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  just
• 26:55
  want
• 26:56
  to
• 26:56
  ask
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  quick,
• 26:58
  any
• 26:58
  good
• 26:58
  Casey
• 26:59
  Stengel
• 27:00
  story
• 27:00
  for
• 27:00
  us?
• 27:03
  Well.
• 27:05
  I'm
• 27:06
  going
• 27:06
  to
• 27:06
  tell
• 27:06
  you
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  story
• 27:07
  but
• 27:08
  not
• 27:08
  to
• 27:08
  knock
• 27:09
  Casey.
• 27:09
  Right.
• 27:10
  He
• 27:10
  was
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  nice
• 27:10
  guy.
• 27:11
  He
• 27:11
  was
• 27:12
  one
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  the
• 27:12
  greatest
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  all
• 27:13
  time.
• 27:15
  But
• 27:15
  by
• 27:15
  the
• 27:15
  time
• 27:15
  he
• 27:16
  got
• 27:16
  there
• 27:17
  he
• 27:18
  wasn't
• 27:18
  sure
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  some
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  the
• 27:20
  names
• 27:22
  so
• 27:23
  he
• 27:23
  called
• 27:23
  me
• 27:23
  Blanchard
• 27:24
  who
• 27:25
  was
• 27:25
  the
• 27:25
  left
• 27:25
  hand
• 27:25
  hitting
• 27:26
  catcher
• 27:26
  for
• 27:26
  the
• 27:26
  Yankees.
• 27:27
  Who
• 27:27
  was
• 27:27
  really
• 27:27
  a
• 27:28
  good
• 27:28
  player.
• 27:28
  Johnny
• 27:28
  Blanchard.
• 27:29
  Yeah.
• 27:30
  And
• 27:30
  so.
• 27:30
  Well
• 27:31
  I
• 27:31
  didn't
• 27:32
  let
• 27:32
  him,
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  didn't
• 27:33
  change
• 27:33
  him.
• 27:33
  I
• 27:33
  just
• 27:33
  said
• 27:34
  if
• 27:34
  he
• 27:34
  thinks
• 27:34
  I'm
• 27:35
  Blanchard,
• 27:35
  I'll
• 27:35
  be
• 27:35
  here
• 27:36
  a
• 27:36
  while.
• 27:37
  This
• 27:37
  looks
• 27:37
  good.
• 27:39
  Unfortunately
• 27:40
  that
• 27:41
  didn't
• 27:41
  work
• 27:41
  either.
• 27:41
  They
• 27:42
  traded
• 27:42
  me
• 27:42
  to
• 27:43
  Pittsburgh
• 27:43
  for
• 27:44
  Vinegar
• 27:44
  Ben
• 27:45
  Moiselle
• 27:46
  and
• 27:46
  Jim
• 27:46
  Duffalo,
• 27:47
  two
• 27:47
  pitchers.
• 27:48
  There's
• 27:48
  a
• 27:48
  great
• 27:48
  baseball
• 27:49
  name.
• 27:49
  Another
• 27:50
  one
• 27:50
  for
• 27:50
  you
• 27:50
  folks,
• 27:51
  Vinegar
• 27:52
  Bend
• 27:53
  Meisel,
• 27:54
  whose
• 27:54
  nickname
• 27:55
  comes
• 27:56
  from
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  town
• 27:57
  that
• 27:57
  he
• 27:57
  hailed
• 27:58
  from
• 27:58
  by
• 27:58
  the
• 27:58
  name
• 27:58
  of
• 27:59
  Vinegar
• 27:59
  Bend.
• 28:02
  A
• 28:02
  journeyman
• 28:03
  pitcher,
• 28:03
  but
• 28:04
  a
• 28:04
  great
• 28:04
  baseball
• 28:05
  name.
• 28:06
  Now,
• 28:06
  Jim,
• 28:06
  I'll
• 28:07
  be
• 28:07
  sure
• 28:07
  to
• 28:07
  pass
• 28:07
  that
• 28:08
  message
• 28:08
  from
• 28:08
  you
• 28:09
  onto
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  Mets.
• 28:10
  It's
• 28:11
  been
• 28:11
  an
• 28:11
  honor
• 28:11
  and
• 28:11
  a
• 28:11
  pleasure
• 28:12
  having
• 28:12
  you
• 28:12
  on
• 28:13
  the
• 28:13
  show
• 28:13
  tonight.
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  thank
• 28:14
  you
• 28:15
  for
• 28:15
  taking
• 28:15
  time
• 28:15
  out
• 28:16
  of
• 28:16
  your
• 28:16
  Sunday
• 28:16
  night
• 28:17
  to
• 28:17
  spend
• 28:17
  it
• 28:17
  with
• 28:17
  us
• 28:17
  here
• 28:18
  in
• 28:18
  New
• 28:18
  York.
• 28:19
  And
• 28:20
  thanks
• 28:20
  again.
• 28:22
  It's
• 28:22
  my
• 28:22
  pleasure.
• 28:23
  And
• 28:23
  the
• 28:23
  Mets
• 28:24
  were
• 28:24
  a
• 28:25
  big
• 28:25
  part
• 28:26
  of
• 28:26
  my
• 28:26
  life,
• 28:26
  even
• 28:27
  though
• 28:27
  last
• 28:28
  very
• 28:28
  long.
• 28:28
  Okay.
• 28:29
  All
• 28:29
  right.
• 28:29
  That's
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  great
• 28:30
  Jim
• 28:30
  Marshall,
• 28:31
  ladies
• 28:31
  and
• 28:31
  gentlemen.
• 28:32
  Take
• 28:32
  care,
• 28:32
  Jim.
• 28:33
  Okay.
• 28:34
  Thanks,
• 28:34
  man.
• 28:34
  Up
• 28:35
  next
• 28:35
  on
• 28:35
  Sports
• 28:35
  Talk
• 28:36
  New
• 28:36
  York,
• 28:36
  we
• 28:36
  will
• 28:37
  talk
• 28:37
  to
• 28:37
  another
• 28:37
  former
• 28:38
  met
• 28:38
  from
• 28:38
  a
• 28:38
  legendary
• 28:39
  time
• 28:39
  period,
• 28:40
  Ron
• 28:41
  Swoboda.
• 28:42
  He
• 28:42
  will
• 28:42
  join
• 28:42
  us.
• 28:43
  So
• 28:43
  stick
• 28:43
  around,
• 28:43
  folks.
• 28:45
  And
• 28:45
  now
• 28:46
  back
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  the
• 28:46
  show.
• 28:47
  All
• 28:47
  right,
• 28:48
  folks,
• 28:48
  we
• 28:48
  are
• 28:48
  back.
• 28:49
  We're
• 28:49
  back
• 28:49
  with
• 28:49
  Sports
• 28:50
  Talk
• 28:50
  New
• 28:50
  York
• 28:50
  on
• 28:51
  WGB
• 28:52
  AM
• 28:53
  FM
• 28:53
  radio,
• 28:54
  live
• 28:55
  from
• 28:55
  beautiful
• 28:55
  downtown
• 28:56
  Merrick,
• 28:57
  Long
• 28:57
  Island,
• 28:58
  New
• 28:59
  York.
• 29:00
  Well,
• 29:00
  I
• 29:01
  was
• 29:01
  up
• 29:01
  in
• 29:01
  Cooperstown
• 29:02
  last
• 29:02
  weekend
• 29:03
  for
• 29:04
  all
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  pomp
• 29:05
  and
• 29:05
  ceremony
• 29:05
  of
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  2025
• 29:07
  inductions,
• 29:09
  and
• 29:09
  it's
• 29:09
  always
• 29:09
  a
• 29:10
  great
• 29:10
  time,
• 29:10
  as
• 29:10
  you
• 29:11
  hear
• 29:11
  me
• 29:11
  say,
• 29:12
  I'm
• 29:12
  always
• 29:12
  a
• 29:12
  big
• 29:13
  proponent
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  the
• 29:13
  hall
• 29:14
  of
• 29:14
  Fame.
• 29:14
  Some
• 29:15
  great
• 29:15
  speeches
• 29:16
  by
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  inductees,
• 29:17
  and
• 29:18
  we'll
• 29:18
  speak
• 29:18
  further
• 29:19
  about
• 29:19
  Cooperstown
• 29:20
  on
• 29:20
  an
• 29:21
  upcoming
• 29:21
  program.
• 29:22
  We'll
• 29:23
  plan
• 29:23
  that
• 29:23
  out
• 29:23
  and
• 29:23
  we'll
• 29:24
  take
• 29:24
  a
• 29:24
  look
• 29:24
  at
• 29:24
  who's
• 29:25
  on
• 29:25
  the
• 29:25
  ballot
• 29:26
  for
• 29:26
  2026.
• 29:28
  Always
• 29:28
  love
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  talk
• 29:29
  hall
• 29:29
  of
• 29:29
  Fame
• 29:30
  on
• 29:30
  the
• 29:30
  program,
• 29:30
  but
• 29:31
  I
• 29:31
  would
• 29:31
  be
• 29:32
  remiss
• 29:32
  in
• 29:32
  not
• 29:33
  mentioning
• 29:33
  the
• 29:34
  passing
• 29:34
  of
• 29:34
  a
• 29:35
  member
• 29:35
  of
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  hall
• 29:36
  of
• 29:36
  Fame
• 29:36
  fraternity,
• 29:38
  the
• 29:38
  great
• 29:38
  Ryan
• 29:39
  Sandberg,
• 29:39
  whom
• 29:40
  we
• 29:40
  lost
• 29:40
  on
• 29:40
  Monday.
• 29:41
  I'd
• 29:42
  like
• 29:42
  to
• 29:42
  send
• 29:42
  our
• 29:43
  deepest
• 29:43
  condolences
• 29:44
  to
• 29:44
  his
• 29:44
  family,
• 29:46
  friends,
• 29:46
  teammates
• 29:47
  and
• 29:47
  fans.
• 29:48
  All
• 29:49
  of
• 29:49
  Cubs
• 29:49
  Nation
• 29:50
  took
• 29:50
  a
• 29:51
  big
• 29:51
  loss
• 29:52
  with
• 29:52
  the
• 29:52
  passing
• 29:52
  of
• 29:53
  Ryne
• 29:53
  Sandberg.
• 29:54
  So
• 29:54
  we
• 29:55
  will
• 29:55
  continue
• 29:55
  on
• 29:56
  Sports
• 29:56
  Talk
• 29:57
  New
• 29:57
  York.
• 29:58
  Having
• 29:59
  trouble
• 29:59
  getting
• 29:59
  a
• 29:59
  hold
• 30:00
  of
• 30:00
  Ron
• 30:00
  Swoboda.
• 30:02
  So
• 30:02
  what
• 30:02
  we'll
• 30:03
  do
• 30:03
  is
• 30:03
  we'll
• 30:03
  talk
• 30:03
  a
• 30:04
  little
• 30:04
  bit
• 30:04
  about
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  career
• 30:05
  of
• 30:05
  Ron
• 30:05
  Swobodo.
• 30:06
  Trevor
• 30:07
  will
• 30:07
  keep
• 30:07
  trying
• 30:07
  to
• 30:08
  get
• 30:08
  him
• 30:08
  on
• 30:08
  the
• 30:08
  line.
• 30:09
  If
• 30:09
  you
• 30:09
  want
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  give
• 30:10
  us
• 30:10
  a
• 30:10
  call,
• 30:10
  you
• 30:11
  can
• 30:11
  call
• 30:11
  at
• 30:11
  516-623-1240.
• 30:14
  That's
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  studio
• 30:15
  line.
• 30:16
  And
• 30:17
  we'll
• 30:18
  chat
• 30:18
  until
• 30:18
  we
• 30:18
  can
• 30:19
  get
• 30:19
  a
• 30:19
  hold
• 30:19
  of
• 30:19
  Ron
• 30:19
  Swoboda.
• 30:20
  But
• 30:21
  as
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  said,
• 30:22
  he's
• 30:23
  a
• 30:23
  cherished
• 30:23
  piece
• 30:24
  of
• 30:25
  Mets
• 30:25
  lore,
• 30:25
  really.
• 30:26
  He
• 30:26
  was
• 30:27
  part
• 30:27
  of
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  first
• 30:28
  golden
• 30:28
  age
• 30:29
  of
• 30:29
  Mets
• 30:30
  baseball
• 30:31
  and
• 30:31
  he'll
• 30:31
  be
• 30:32
  forever
• 30:32
  etched
• 30:34
  into
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  fan's
• 30:35
  memory
• 30:35
  for
• 30:36
  that
• 30:36
  catch
• 30:37
  in
• 30:37
  the
• 30:37
  1969
• 30:38
  World
• 30:39
  Series.
• 30:40
  Just
• 30:40
  an
• 30:40
  example,
• 30:41
  kids,
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  the
• 30:43
  longevity
• 30:45
  of
• 30:45
  that
• 30:45
  particular
• 30:46
  memory.
• 30:47
  The
• 30:47
  next
• 30:47
  time
• 30:48
  you
• 30:48
  guys
• 30:49
  are
• 30:49
  at
• 30:49
  Citi
• 30:49
  Field
• 30:50
  and
• 30:50
  if
• 30:51
  you
• 30:51
  happen
• 30:51
  to
• 30:51
  enter
• 30:51
  through
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  bullpen
• 30:53
  gate,
• 30:54
  there
• 30:54
  is
• 30:55
  in
• 30:55
  the
• 30:55
  metal
• 30:58
  design
• 30:59
  of
• 31:00
  the
• 31:00
  silhouette
• 31:01
  of
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  player
• 31:02
  outstretched
• 31:03
  reaching
• 31:03
  for
• 31:03
  a
• 31:04
  baseball.
• 31:05
  And
• 31:05
  that's
• 31:06
  meant
• 31:06
  to
• 31:06
  remember
• 31:07
  Ron
• 31:07
  Swoboda
• 31:08
  and
• 31:08
  the
• 31:08
  tremendous
• 31:09
  catch
• 31:09
  he
• 31:10
  made
• 31:10
  in
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  69
• 31:11
  series.
• 31:12
  And
• 31:13
  I'll
• 31:14
  go
• 31:14
  to
• 31:14
  a
• 31:14
  little
• 31:14
  bit
• 31:14
  of
• 31:15
  saber
• 31:15
  information
• 31:16
  about
• 31:17
  Ron.
• 31:18
  Let
• 31:19
  me
• 31:19
  just
• 31:19
  flip
• 31:19
  over
• 31:20
  here.
• 31:22
  Hang
• 31:22
  on,
• 31:22
  folks.
• 31:23
  I'm
• 31:24
  still
• 31:24
  with
• 31:24
  you.
• 31:25
  I'm
• 31:26
  taking
• 31:26
  a
• 31:26
  little
• 31:26
  time
• 31:27
  here
• 31:27
  because
• 31:27
  we're
• 31:28
  switching
• 31:29
  gears
• 31:29
  because
• 31:29
  of
• 31:30
  the
• 31:30
  absence
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  Ron.
• 31:31
  We'll
• 31:32
  talk
• 31:32
  a
• 31:32
  little
• 31:32
  bit
• 31:32
  about
• 31:33
  his
• 31:33
  career.
• 31:34
  Let
• 31:34
  me
• 31:34
  go
• 31:35
  to
• 31:35
  Sabre
• 31:38
  and
• 31:39
  hang
• 31:39
  on,
• 31:39
  hang
• 31:40
  on.
• 31:41
  Here
• 31:41
  we
• 31:42
  go.
• 31:44
  I'll
• 31:44
  read
• 31:45
  you
• 31:45
  his
• 31:46
  Sabre
• 31:46
  entry.
• 31:48
  The
• 31:48
  casual
• 31:49
  fan
• 31:49
  of
• 31:49
  the
• 31:49
  game
• 31:50
  might
• 31:50
  know
• 31:51
  Ron
• 31:51
  Swoboda
• 31:52
  for
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  catch
• 31:53
  in
• 31:54
  the
• 31:54
  1969
• 31:55
  World
• 31:55
  Series
• 31:56
  or
• 31:56
  for
• 31:57
  his
• 31:57
  home
• 31:57
  run
• 31:57
  heroics
• 31:58
  and
• 31:59
  in
• 31:59
  a
• 31:59
  game
• 31:59
  against
• 31:59
  hall
• 32:00
  of
• 32:00
  Famer
• 32:00
  Steve
• 32:01
  Carlton,
• 32:02
  or
• 32:02
  for
• 32:03
  Casey
• 32:03
  Stengel's
• 32:04
  early
• 32:04
  summation
• 32:05
  of
• 32:05
  him,
• 32:06
  he
• 32:06
  will
• 32:06
  be
• 32:07
  great,
• 32:08
  super,
• 32:08
  even
• 32:09
  wonderful.
• 32:10
  Now,
• 32:10
  if
• 32:10
  he
• 32:10
  can
• 32:11
  only
• 32:11
  learn
• 32:11
  to
• 32:11
  catch
• 32:12
  a
• 32:12
  fly
• 32:12
  ball,
• 32:13
  the
• 32:13
  true
• 32:14
  fan
• 32:14
  of
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  man
• 32:15
  will
• 32:16
  also
• 32:16
  know
• 32:16
  Ron
• 32:16
  Swoboda
• 32:17
  for
• 32:17
  his
• 32:17
  wit,
• 32:18
  his
• 32:19
  heart,
• 32:19
  his
• 32:19
  humility
• 32:20
  and
• 32:21
  for
• 32:21
  his
• 32:21
  drive
• 32:21
  to
• 32:22
  become
• 32:22
  the
• 32:22
  best
• 32:23
  outfielder
• 32:23
  he
• 32:23
  could
• 32:24
  be.
• 32:25
  Ronald
• 32:25
  Allen
• 32:26
  Swoboda
• 32:26
  was
• 32:27
  born
• 32:27
  in
• 32:27
  Baltimore
• 32:28
  on
• 32:28
  June
• 32:28
  30,
• 32:29
  1944
• 32:31
  to
• 32:31
  John
• 32:31
  and
• 32:32
  Dolores
• 32:32
  Swoboda.
• 32:33
  His
• 32:34
  father
• 32:34
  was
• 32:34
  a
• 32:34
  waste
• 32:35
  gunner
• 32:35
  In
• 32:35
  World
• 32:35
  War
• 32:36
  II,
• 32:36
  a
• 32:36
  mechanic,
• 32:37
  salesman
• 32:37
  and
• 32:38
  teacher.
• 32:39
  His
• 32:39
  mother
• 32:39
  was
• 32:40
  a
• 32:40
  secretary,
• 32:41
  case
• 32:41
  manager
• 32:42
  and
• 32:42
  supervisor
• 32:43
  in
• 32:43
  social
• 32:43
  services
• 32:45
  at
• 32:45
  Sparrows
• 32:46
  Point
• 32:46
  High
• 32:46
  school.
• 32:46
  He
• 32:47
  played
• 32:47
  three
• 32:47
  sports.
• 32:49
  Ron's
• 32:50
  baseball
• 32:50
  coach
• 32:50
  was.
• 32:51
  Andy
• 32:51
  McDonald
• 32:52
  was
• 32:52
  his
• 32:53
  name.
• 32:53
  In
• 32:53
  addition
• 32:53
  to
• 32:54
  baseball,
• 32:55
  Swoboda
• 32:55
  played
• 32:56
  basketball
• 32:56
  and
• 32:57
  helped
• 32:57
  take
• 32:57
  his
• 32:57
  team
• 32:57
  to
• 32:58
  the
• 32:58
  state
• 32:58
  title.
• 32:59
  And
• 33:00
  he
• 33:00
  also
• 33:00
  played
• 33:00
  soccer
• 33:01
  where
• 33:01
  he
• 33:01
  was
• 33:01
  the
• 33:02
  goalkeeper
• 33:02
  and
• 33:03
  captain
• 33:03
  of
• 33:03
  the
• 33:04
  team.
• 33:05
  He
• 33:05
  played
• 33:05
  goalkeeper
• 33:06
  for
• 33:06
  the
• 33:06
  freshman
• 33:07
  soccer
• 33:07
  team
• 33:08
  at
• 33:08
  the
• 33:08
  University
• 33:09
  of
• 33:09
  Maryland
• 33:09
  as
• 33:10
  well.
• 33:11
  But
• 33:11
  of
• 33:11
  course,
• 33:11
  baseball
• 33:12
  was
• 33:12
  his
• 33:13
  game
• 33:13
  and
• 33:13
  Ron
• 33:13
  started
• 33:14
  playing
• 33:14
  at
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  age
• 33:15
  of
• 33:15
  nine.
• 33:15
  He
• 33:16
  played
• 33:16
  15
• 33:17
  to
• 33:17
  17
• 33:18
  year
• 33:18
  old
• 33:18
  amateur
• 33:19
  baseball
• 33:20
  for
• 33:20
  Sterling
• 33:21
  Sheriff
• 33:21
  Falbel.
• 33:22
  According
• 33:23
  to
• 33:24
  Baltimore
• 33:25
  City,
• 33:25
  coach
• 33:26
  and
• 33:26
  scout
• 33:26
  for
• 33:26
  the
• 33:27
  Cincinnati
• 33:27
  Reds
• 33:28
  and
• 33:29
  New
• 33:29
  York
• 33:29
  Mets.
• 33:30
  When
• 33:30
  he
• 33:30
  was
• 33:30
  18,
• 33:31
  Swoboda
• 33:32
  played
• 33:32
  on
• 33:32
  the
• 33:33
  Dolphin
• 33:33
  Club.
• 33:33
  At
• 33:34
  19,
• 33:34
  he
• 33:34
  played
• 33:35
  on
• 33:35
  Leone's
• 33:36
  Boys
• 33:37
  Club.
• 33:37
  Whereas
• 33:38
  co
• 33:38
  op.
• 33:38
  The
• 33:39
  phone
• 33:39
  is
• 33:39
  ringing,
• 33:39
  folks.
• 33:41
  Let's
• 33:41
  see.
• 33:43
  Hold
• 33:43
  on.
• 33:43
  Trevor's
• 33:44
  on
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  phone.
• 33:48
  How
• 33:48
  are
• 33:48
  we
• 33:48
  making
• 33:49
  out,
• 33:49
  Trev?
• 33:52
  Hold
• 33:53
  on,
• 33:53
  folks.
• 33:54
  Sorry
• 33:54
  for
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  dead
• 33:55
  air.
• 33:59
  Okay,
• 34:00
  let
• 34:00
  me
• 34:00
  just
• 34:01
  switch
• 34:01
  over
• 34:01
  again,
• 34:02
  folks.
• 34:03
  I'm
• 34:04
  having
• 34:04
  a
• 34:04
  tough
• 34:04
  night,
• 34:05
  folks.
• 34:06
  All
• 34:06
  right,
• 34:07
  thank
• 34:07
  you,
• 34:07
  Trevor.
• 34:07
  Well,
• 34:08
  our
• 34:08
  next
• 34:08
  guest
• 34:09
  as
• 34:09
  I
• 34:09
  said,
• 34:09
  a
• 34:10
  cherished
• 34:10
  piece
• 34:11
  of
• 34:11
  Met's
• 34:11
  lore,
• 34:11
  part
• 34:12
  of
• 34:12
  the
• 34:13
  first
• 34:13
  golden
• 34:13
  age
• 34:14
  of
• 34:14
  Mets
• 34:14
  baseball.
• 34:15
  And
• 34:15
  he'll
• 34:15
  forever
• 34:16
  be
• 34:16
  etched
• 34:17
  into
• 34:17
  the
• 34:17
  fam's
• 34:18
  memory,
• 34:18
  of
• 34:18
  course,
• 34:19
  for
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  catch
• 34:20
  in
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  1969
• 34:21
  World
• 34:22
  Series.
• 34:22
  And
• 34:23
  as
• 34:23
  I
• 34:23
  told
• 34:23
  the
• 34:24
  kids,
• 34:24
  next
• 34:24
  time
• 34:24
  you're
• 34:25
  at
• 34:25
  Citi
• 34:25
  Field
• 34:26
  and
• 34:26
  you
• 34:26
  enter
• 34:27
  through
• 34:27
  that
• 34:27
  bullpen
• 34:28
  gate
• 34:28
  in
• 34:28
  the
• 34:28
  back,
• 34:29
  there's
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  silhouette
• 34:30
  of
• 34:30
  a
• 34:30
  player
• 34:31
  outstretched,
• 34:31
  reaching
• 34:32
  for
• 34:32
  a
• 34:32
  baseball.
• 34:33
  And
• 34:33
  that
• 34:33
  is
• 34:34
  meant
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  remember
• 34:35
  this
• 34:35
  great
• 34:35
  gentleman.
• 34:36
  So
• 34:36
  let's
• 34:36
  welcome
• 34:37
  back
• 34:37
  to
• 34:38
  Sports
• 34:38
  Talk,
• 34:38
  New
• 34:39
  York,
• 34:39
  the
• 34:39
  great
• 34:40
  Ron
• 34:40
  Swoboda.
• 34:41
  Ron,
• 34:41
  good
• 34:42
  evening,
• 34:43
  how
• 34:43
  are
• 34:43
  you?
• 34:44
  I'm
• 34:44
  sorry
• 34:45
  we
• 34:45
  disconnected
• 34:46
  a
• 34:46
  bit
• 34:46
  there,
• 34:46
  but
• 34:47
  I'm
• 34:47
  glad
• 34:48
  I
• 34:48
  caught
• 34:48
  up
• 34:48
  with
• 34:48
  you.
• 34:49
  Yeah,
• 34:49
  no,
• 34:50
  great
• 34:50
  to
• 34:50
  have
• 34:50
  you
• 34:50
  with
• 34:50
  us.
• 34:51
  Glad
• 34:51
  things
• 34:51
  worked
• 34:52
  out,
• 34:52
  Ron.
• 34:52
  Now
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  want
• 34:53
  to
• 34:53
  go
• 34:53
  to
• 34:54
  switch
• 34:54
  back
• 34:54
  to
• 34:54
  Sabre
• 34:55
  and
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  want
• 34:56
  to
• 34:57
  talk
• 34:57
  to
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  about
• 34:57
  the
• 34:58
  two
• 34:58
  home
• 34:58
  runs
• 34:59
  that
• 34:59
  you
• 34:59
  hit
• 35:00
  off
• 35:00
  Steve
• 35:00
  Carlton.
• 35:01
  Tell
• 35:01
  us
• 35:02
  a
• 35:02
  little
• 35:02
  bit
• 35:02
  about
• 35:02
  that
• 35:03
  night.
• 35:04
  Well,
• 35:04
  you
• 35:05
  know,
• 35:06
  we
• 35:06
  were
• 35:06
  in
• 35:06
  the
• 35:07
  hunt,
• 35:07
  obviously
• 35:08
  in
• 35:08
  1960,
• 35:10
  and
• 35:10
  there
• 35:11
  was
• 35:11
  a
• 35:12
  makeup
• 35:12
  game
• 35:13
  in
• 35:13
  St.
• 35:14
  Louis.
• 35:14
  So
• 35:15
  we
• 35:15
  went
• 35:16
  in
• 35:16
  to
• 35:17
  play
• 35:17
  the
• 35:17
  Cardinals
• 35:19
  in
• 35:19
  a
• 35:19
  game
• 35:19
  that
• 35:20
  wasn't
• 35:21
  on
• 35:22
  tv,
• 35:24
  only
• 35:25
  on
• 35:25
  radio.
• 35:27
  And
• 35:27
  we
• 35:27
  came
• 35:27
  in
• 35:28
  to
• 35:28
  play
• 35:28
  one
• 35:28
  game
• 35:29
  and
• 35:30
  it
• 35:30
  was
• 35:30
  interesting
• 35:31
  because
• 35:31
  I
• 35:32
  was
• 35:34
  struggling
• 35:35
  a
• 35:35
  little
• 35:36
  then.
• 35:36
  I
• 35:37
  had
• 35:37
  had
• 35:37
  a
• 35:37
  pretty
• 35:37
  good
• 35:38
  run
• 35:38
  and
• 35:39
  I
• 35:39
  felt
• 35:39
  like
• 35:39
  I
• 35:40
  kind
• 35:40
  of
• 35:40
  lost
• 35:40
  a
• 35:41
  little
• 35:41
  something.
• 35:41
  And
• 35:42
  in
• 35:43
  St.
• 35:43
  Louis
• 35:44
  Stadium
• 35:45
  they
• 35:45
  had
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  batting
• 35:46
  cage
• 35:46
  that
• 35:47
  you
• 35:47
  could
• 35:47
  go
• 35:47
  to.
• 35:48
  Those
• 35:48
  were
• 35:48
  not
• 35:49
  common
• 35:49
  in
• 35:50
  baseball
• 35:51
  back
• 35:51
  then
• 35:52
  in
• 35:52
  1969.
• 35:54
  And
• 35:54
  I
• 35:54
  asked
• 35:55
  the
• 35:56
  coaches
• 35:56
  if
• 35:56
  it'd
• 35:57
  be
• 35:57
  all
• 35:57
  right
• 35:58
  for
• 35:58
  me
• 35:58
  and
• 35:58
  Ralph
• 35:59
  Kiner
• 35:59
  to
• 35:59
  go
• 36:00
  down
• 36:00
  before
• 36:00
  the
• 36:01
  game.
• 36:01
  And
• 36:03
  they
• 36:03
  had
• 36:03
  these
• 36:04
  pitching
• 36:05
  machines,
• 36:05
  you
• 36:06
  know,
• 36:06
  with
• 36:06
  the
• 36:07
  inner
• 36:07
  troop,
• 36:07
  you
• 36:08
  know,
• 36:08
  with
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  wheels
• 36:09
  on
• 36:09
  them,
• 36:09
  you
• 36:09
  know,
• 36:09
  and
• 36:09
  you
• 36:10
  fed
• 36:10
  a
• 36:10
  ball
• 36:10
  through
• 36:11
  the
• 36:11
  wheel
• 36:12
  and.
• 36:12
  And
• 36:13
  it
• 36:13
  was
• 36:13
  the
• 36:13
  early,
• 36:15
  it
• 36:15
  was
• 36:16
  the
• 36:16
  early
• 36:17
  evolution
• 36:18
  of
• 36:18
  that
• 36:18
  particular
• 36:19
  machinery.
• 36:20
  But
• 36:21
  he
• 36:21
  went
• 36:21
  down
• 36:21
  there
• 36:21
  and
• 36:22
  fed
• 36:22
  me
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  bunch
• 36:22
  of
• 36:23
  balls.
• 36:23
  And
• 36:23
  I
• 36:23
  took
• 36:23
  some
• 36:24
  batting
• 36:24
  practice
• 36:24
  with
• 36:25
  Ralph
• 36:25
  Kiner
• 36:26
  looking
• 36:27
  at
• 36:27
  me,
• 36:27
  something
• 36:28
  I
• 36:28
  had
• 36:28
  never
• 36:29
  done
• 36:29
  before,
• 36:30
  and
• 36:31
  just
• 36:31
  talked
• 36:31
  about,
• 36:32
  you
• 36:32
  know,
• 36:32
  how
• 36:32
  did
• 36:33
  it
• 36:33
  feel?
• 36:33
  How
• 36:33
  does
• 36:34
  that
• 36:34
  look?
• 36:34
  What
• 36:35
  do
• 36:35
  you
• 36:35
  think?
• 36:35
  You
• 36:36
  know,
• 36:36
  wasn't
• 36:37
  high
• 36:37
  end
• 36:39
  analytics.
• 36:40
  Just
• 36:40
  look
• 36:41
  at
• 36:41
  it,
• 36:41
  see
• 36:42
  how
• 36:42
  it
• 36:42
  feels,
• 36:42
  see
• 36:43
  how
• 36:43
  it
• 36:43
  looked.
• 36:44
  And
• 36:44
  I
• 36:44
  got
• 36:45
  comfortable
• 36:46
  and
• 36:47
  went
• 36:47
  into
• 36:47
  a
• 36:48
  ball
• 36:48
  game
• 36:48
  against
• 36:48
  Steve
• 36:49
  Carlton
• 36:50
  when
• 36:50
  he
• 36:50
  probably
• 36:51
  had
• 36:51
  some
• 36:51
  of
• 36:51
  the
• 36:51
  better
• 36:52
  stuff
• 36:52
  he
• 36:52
  ever
• 36:52
  had
• 36:52
  in
• 36:53
  his
• 36:53
  life.
• 36:54
  And,
• 36:56
  you
• 36:56
  know,
• 36:56
  he
• 36:56
  was
• 36:56
  on
• 36:57
  his
• 36:57
  way
• 36:57
  to
• 36:57
  striking
• 36:58
  out
• 36:58
  19
• 36:59
  guys,
• 37:00
  including
• 37:01
  me
• 37:01
  twice
• 37:04
  and,
• 37:05
  you
• 37:06
  know,
• 37:06
  setting
• 37:06
  a
• 37:07
  record
• 37:08
  then
• 37:08
  as
• 37:09
  major
• 37:09
  league
• 37:09
  strikeout
• 37:10
  record
• 37:11
  in
• 37:12
  a
• 37:12
  nine
• 37:13
  inning
• 37:13
  game.
• 37:14
  But
• 37:15
  we
• 37:15
  went
• 37:15
  down
• 37:16
  one
• 37:16
  nothing.
• 37:17
  He
• 37:17
  had
• 37:17
  struck
• 37:18
  me
• 37:18
  out
• 37:18
  once,
• 37:19
  had
• 37:19
  two
• 37:20
  strikes
• 37:20
  on
• 37:20
  me
• 37:21
  with
• 37:21
  a
• 37:21
  runner
• 37:21
  on
• 37:22
  Base.
• 37:22
  I
• 37:22
  banged
• 37:23
  him
• 37:24
  for
• 37:24
  a
• 37:25
  home
• 37:25
  run
• 37:26
  and
• 37:27
  we
• 37:27
  went
• 37:27
  up
• 37:27
  2
• 37:27
  to
• 37:28
  1.
• 37:28
  The
• 37:28
  Cardinals
• 37:29
  went
• 37:29
  up
• 37:31
  3
• 37:31
  to
• 37:31
  2.
• 37:32
  He
• 37:32
  struck
• 37:33
  me
• 37:33
  out
• 37:33
  again
• 37:35
  and
• 37:35
  had
• 37:35
  two
• 37:36
  strikes
• 37:36
  on
• 37:36
  me
• 37:37
  again
• 37:37
  with
• 37:37
  a
• 37:37
  runner
• 37:38
  on
• 37:38
  base.
• 37:39
  And
• 37:39
  I
• 37:39
  banged
• 37:40
  him
• 37:40
  again
• 37:41
  on
• 37:42
  a
• 37:42
  slider
• 37:43
  over
• 37:43
  the
• 37:43
  left
• 37:43
  field
• 37:44
  Fencing
• 37:45
  in
• 37:45
  St.
• 37:45
  Louis,
• 37:46
  which
• 37:46
  was,
• 37:46
  you
• 37:47
  know,
• 37:47
  was
• 37:47
  a
• 37:47
  pretty
• 37:47
  good
• 37:48
  poke.
• 37:48
  Yeah.
• 37:49
  And
• 37:49
  we
• 37:50
  end
• 37:50
  up
• 37:50
  beating
• 37:50
  him
• 37:51
  4
• 37:51
  to
• 37:51
  3.
• 37:52
  And
• 37:52
  he
• 37:53
  had,
• 37:53
  like
• 37:53
  I
• 37:53
  said,
• 37:54
  the
• 37:54
  best
• 37:54
  stuff
• 37:55
  he
• 37:55
  could
• 37:55
  imagine
• 37:56
  having.
• 37:57
  And
• 37:59
  the
• 37:59
  crazy
• 37:59
  thing
• 38:00
  was
• 38:00
  Harry
• 38:01
  Carey,
• 38:01
  who
• 38:02
  was
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  Cardinals
• 38:03
  broadcaster
• 38:04
  then
• 38:05
  had
• 38:06
  me
• 38:06
  on
• 38:06
  the
• 38:06
  post
• 38:07
  game
• 38:07
  radio
• 38:08
  show
• 38:08
  and
• 38:09
  I
• 38:09
  went
• 38:09
  up
• 38:10
  to
• 38:10
  do
• 38:10
  the
• 38:11
  interview
• 38:11
  after
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  game
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  who's
• 38:13
  sitting
• 38:14
  in
• 38:14
  there
• 38:15
  but
• 38:15
  Steve
• 38:16
  Carlton?
• 38:16
  You
• 38:17
  know,
• 38:18
  I
• 38:18
  walk
• 38:18
  in
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  room
• 38:19
  and
• 38:19
  here's
• 38:19
  Keep
• 38:19
  coming.
• 38:20
  And
• 38:20
  I
• 38:20
  went,
• 38:20
  jesus.
• 38:22
  He
• 38:22
  looked
• 38:23
  like
• 38:23
  somebody
• 38:24
  who
• 38:24
  had
• 38:24
  just
• 38:24
  been
• 38:24
  told
• 38:25
  that
• 38:25
  his
• 38:26
  dog
• 38:26
  got
• 38:26
  run
• 38:27
  over
• 38:27
  by
• 38:27
  a
• 38:27
  car.
• 38:28
  Okay.
• 38:29
  I
• 38:30
  mean,
• 38:30
  it
• 38:30
  was
• 38:31
  very.
• 38:33
  It
• 38:33
  was
• 38:34
  uncomfortable,
• 38:38
  but
• 38:38
  that's
• 38:38
  what
• 38:39
  happened
• 38:39
  after
• 38:39
  that
• 38:40
  game.
• 38:40
  He
• 38:40
  was
• 38:41
  demoralized,
• 38:41
  Ron.
• 38:42
  That's
• 38:42
  right.
• 38:44
  Well,
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  mean,
• 38:44
  he
• 38:44
  had
• 38:45
  his
• 38:45
  great
• 38:45
  stuff.
• 38:45
  He
• 38:46
  challenged
• 38:46
  me
• 38:46
  and,
• 38:47
  you
• 38:47
  know,
• 38:47
  and,
• 38:48
  you
• 38:48
  know,
• 38:48
  crazy
• 38:48
  things
• 38:49
  happen,
• 38:49
  you
• 38:50
  know.
• 38:50
  Yeah.
• 38:51
  And
• 38:52
  I,
• 38:52
  you
• 38:52
  know,
• 38:53
  I
• 38:53
  didn't
• 38:53
  hit
• 38:53
  him.
• 38:53
  You
• 38:54
  know
• 38:54
  who.
• 38:54
  Nobody
• 38:55
  wore
• 38:55
  him
• 38:55
  out.
• 38:56
  I
• 38:56
  didn't
• 38:56
  hit
• 38:56
  him
• 38:57
  hard,
• 38:57
  but
• 38:58
  I.
• 38:58
  But
• 38:58
  I
• 38:59
  got
• 38:59
  him
• 38:59
  twice
• 38:59
  in
• 39:00
  a
• 39:00
  game
• 39:00
  and
• 39:00
  beating
• 39:00
  4
• 39:01
  to
• 39:01
  3
• 39:01
  in
• 39:02
  a
• 39:02
  game
• 39:02
  that
• 39:02
  he
• 39:02
  probably
• 39:04
  never
• 39:04
  had
• 39:05
  better
• 39:05
  stuff
• 39:05
  in.
• 39:06
  Right.
• 39:06
  Steve
• 39:07
  Carlton
• 39:07
  strikes
• 39:08
  out
• 39:08
  19
• 39:08
  Mets
• 39:09
  runs
• 39:09
  from
• 39:10
  a
• 39:10
  boat
• 39:10
  at
• 39:10
  twice,
• 39:11
  But
• 39:11
  Ron
• 39:11
  beats
• 39:12
  him
• 39:12
  with
• 39:12
  two.
• 39:12
  Two
• 39:13
  run
• 39:13
  homers.
• 39:14
  Folks,
• 39:14
  you
• 39:15
  can't
• 39:15
  write
• 39:15
  a
• 39:15
  better
• 39:15
  script
• 39:16
  than
• 39:16
  that.
• 39:17
  That
• 39:17
  is
• 39:17
  beautiful.
• 39:18
  That's
• 39:18
  19.
• 39:19
  You
• 39:20
  know,
• 39:20
  there
• 39:20
  were
• 39:20
  so
• 39:20
  many
• 39:21
  elements
• 39:21
  in
• 39:21
  that
• 39:22
  season.
• 39:24
  It
• 39:24
  spoiled
• 39:25
  us,
• 39:27
  it
• 39:28
  amazed
• 39:28
  us.
• 39:30
  And
• 39:31
  we,
• 39:31
  you
• 39:32
  know,
• 39:33
  from
• 39:33
  mid
• 39:34
  season
• 39:34
  on,
• 39:34
  we
• 39:35
  felt
• 39:35
  like
• 39:35
  we
• 39:35
  were
• 39:36
  surfing
• 39:37
  up
• 39:37
  on
• 39:37
  a
• 39:38
  wave
• 39:39
  and
• 39:39
  things
• 39:39
  were
• 39:40
  sort
• 39:40
  of
• 39:40
  preordained.
• 39:42
  One
• 39:42
  thing
• 39:43
  people
• 39:43
  may
• 39:43
  not
• 39:44
  realize
• 39:45
  is
• 39:45
  that
• 39:46
  the
• 39:46
  69
• 39:47
  season
• 39:48
  went
• 39:48
  on
• 39:49
  in
• 39:49
  parallel
• 39:50
  with
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  Apollo
• 39:51
  11
• 39:51
  moon
• 39:52
  launch.
• 39:53
  And
• 39:54
  from
• 39:55
  what
• 39:55
  I
• 39:55
  remember,
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  guys
• 39:57
  were
• 39:57
  stuck
• 39:58
  in
• 39:58
  the
• 39:58
  airport
• 39:59
  in
• 39:59
  Montreal
• 40:00
  and
• 40:01
  you
• 40:01
  all
• 40:01
  got
• 40:02
  to
• 40:02
  watch
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  moon
• 40:03
  landing
• 40:03
  together
• 40:04
  now,
• 40:05
  having
• 40:07
  an
• 40:07
  American
• 40:08
  and
• 40:08
  a
• 40:08
  human
• 40:08
  being
• 40:09
  walk
• 40:09
  on
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  moon
• 40:10
  and
• 40:11
  then
• 40:11
  the
• 40:11
  Mets
• 40:11
  win
• 40:12
  the
• 40:12
  World
• 40:12
  Series.
• 40:13
  As
• 40:13
  you
• 40:13
  say,
• 40:14
  Ron.
• 40:14
  1969.
• 40:16
  Right.
• 40:17
  Well,
• 40:18
  you
• 40:18
  know,
• 40:18
  it
• 40:18
  was
• 40:18
  interesting.
• 40:19
  That
• 40:19
  was
• 40:19
  right
• 40:20
  at
• 40:20
  the
• 40:20
  halfway
• 40:21
  mark
• 40:21
  in
• 40:21
  the
• 40:21
  season,
• 40:22
  Right.
• 40:26
  We
• 40:26
  had
• 40:26
  a
• 40:26
  good
• 40:27
  series
• 40:27
  in
• 40:28
  Montreal,
• 40:31
  Went
• 40:31
  to
• 40:31
  our
• 40:32
  charter
• 40:33
  flight
• 40:33
  out
• 40:33
  of
• 40:34
  Montreal
• 40:34
  heading
• 40:35
  back
• 40:35
  to
• 40:35
  New
• 40:35
  York.
• 40:36
  We
• 40:36
  knew
• 40:36
  that
• 40:37
  Neil
• 40:38
  Armstrong
• 40:39
  and
• 40:39
  the
• 40:39
  boys
• 40:39
  were
• 40:40
  up
• 40:40
  there
• 40:40
  on
• 40:41
  the
• 40:41
  moon
• 40:41
  and
• 40:44
  we
• 40:44
  would
• 40:44
  probably
• 40:45
  miss
• 40:46
  the
• 40:46
  live
• 40:47
  landing,
• 40:47
  the
• 40:48
  live
• 40:50
  TV
• 40:50
  coverage
• 40:52
  of
• 40:52
  Neo
• 40:52
  stepping
• 40:53
  out
• 40:53
  of
• 40:53
  the
• 40:54
  capsule
• 40:55
  onto
• 40:56
  the
• 40:56
  surface
• 40:56
  of
• 40:56
  the
• 40:57
  moon.
• 40:57
  But
• 40:58
  we
• 40:58
  had
• 40:58
  a
• 40:58
  mechanical
• 40:59
  problem
• 41:00
  in
• 41:00
  our
• 41:00
  airplane
• 41:02
  and
• 41:02
  so
• 41:03
  we
• 41:03
  weren't
• 41:04
  going
• 41:04
  anywhere.
• 41:06
  So
• 41:06
  we
• 41:08
  repaired
• 41:08
  to
• 41:09
  the.
• 41:11
  To
• 41:11
  the
• 41:11
  cocktail
• 41:12
  lounge
• 41:13
  in
• 41:13
  the
• 41:13
  Montreal
• 41:14
  airport.
• 41:14
  And
• 41:15
  I'm
• 41:15
  standing
• 41:16
  there
• 41:16
  with
• 41:16
  Eddie
• 41:16
  Krampool,
• 41:17
  and
• 41:17
  we
• 41:17
  had
• 41:17
  a
• 41:18
  couple
• 41:18
  of
• 41:18
  cocktails
• 41:19
  in
• 41:19
  front
• 41:20
  of
• 41:20
  us.
• 41:20
  It
• 41:20
  was
• 41:21
  at
• 41:21
  the
• 41:21
  All
• 41:21
  Star
• 41:22
  break,
• 41:22
  so
• 41:22
  we
• 41:23
  were
• 41:23
  kind
• 41:23
  of
• 41:23
  relaxing
• 41:24
  a
• 41:24
  little
• 41:25
  bit,
• 41:25
  and
• 41:26
  we
• 41:27
  realized
• 41:28
  this
• 41:28
  mechanical
• 41:29
  problem
• 41:29
  in
• 41:30
  our
• 41:30
  airplane
• 41:31
  allowed
• 41:31
  us
• 41:31
  to,
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  know,
• 41:32
  watch
• 41:33
  the
• 41:33
  moon
• 41:33
  landing.
• 41:34
  And
• 41:34
  I
• 41:34
  was
• 41:35
  a
• 41:35
  huge
• 41:36
  fan
• 41:37
  of
• 41:39
  that
• 41:39
  whole
• 41:40
  program.
• 41:44
  I
• 41:44
  loved
• 41:45
  rocketry.
• 41:47
  I
• 41:47
  followed
• 41:48
  everything
• 41:48
  about
• 41:50
  the
• 41:51
  astronauts
• 41:53
  and
• 41:53
  the
• 41:53
  equipment,
• 41:55
  and
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  just
• 41:57
  loved
• 41:57
  it.
• 41:58
  My
• 41:58
  mom
• 41:58
  had
• 41:58
  given
• 41:59
  me
• 41:59
  a
• 41:59
  book
• 41:59
  by
• 42:00
  a
• 42:00
  guy
• 42:01
  named
• 42:01
  Willy
• 42:02
  Ley
• 42:02
  L
• 42:03
  E?
• 42:03
  Yeah.
• 42:04
  And
• 42:04
  he
• 42:04
  actually.
• 42:05
  Willy
• 42:05
  ley
• 42:06
  lived
• 42:06
  in
• 42:06
  New
• 42:07
  York.
• 42:07
  He
• 42:07
  was
• 42:07
  an
• 42:07
  expatriate
• 42:08
  German.
• 42:09
  He
• 42:10
  knew
• 42:11
  Wernher
• 42:11
  von
• 42:12
  Braun,
• 42:12
  who
• 42:12
  was
• 42:13
  a
• 42:13
  rocket
• 42:13
  guy
• 42:13
  with
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  Nazis
• 42:15
  during
• 42:15
  World
• 42:16
  War
• 42:16
  II,
• 42:16
  who
• 42:17
  came
• 42:17
  after
• 42:17
  the
• 42:18
  war
• 42:18
  to
• 42:18
  us.
• 42:19
  And
• 42:20
  if
• 42:20
  we
• 42:21
  don't,
• 42:21
  you
• 42:21
  know,
• 42:22
  if
• 42:22
  he
• 42:22
  was
• 42:23
  going
• 42:23
  to
• 42:24
  connect
• 42:25
  himself
• 42:25
  with
• 42:26
  the
• 42:26
  Americans.
• 42:27
  But
• 42:27
  his
• 42:27
  knowledge
• 42:28
  of
• 42:30
  multiengine
• 42:32
  boosters
• 42:32
  and
• 42:33
  rockets
• 42:34
  was
• 42:34
  the
• 42:34
  difference
• 42:35
  in
• 42:35
  us
• 42:35
  getting
• 42:35
  to
• 42:36
  the
• 42:36
  moon,
• 42:36
  period.
• 42:37
  You
• 42:38
  know,
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  Titan
• 42:39
  5
• 42:39
  was
• 42:41
  his
• 42:41
  baby,
• 42:42
  and
• 42:43
  it
• 42:43
  was
• 42:43
  the
• 42:44
  booster
• 42:45
  for
• 42:45
  the
• 42:45
  moon
• 42:46
  launches,
• 42:46
  and
• 42:47
  it
• 42:47
  never
• 42:47
  failed.
• 42:48
  And
• 42:50
  so
• 42:50
  our
• 42:50
  little
• 42:51
  Nazi,
• 42:52
  you
• 42:53
  know,
• 42:53
  he
• 42:53
  was
• 42:53
  full
• 42:54
  on
• 42:54
  Nazi
• 42:56
  scientists,
• 42:57
  you
• 42:57
  know,
• 42:57
  I
• 42:57
  mean,
• 42:57
  there's
• 42:58
  no
• 42:58
  doubt
• 42:58
  about
• 42:58
  that.
• 42:59
  But
• 43:00
  we
• 43:01
  had
• 43:01
  him,
• 43:01
  and
• 43:03
  he
• 43:04
  was
• 43:04
  in
• 43:04
  charge
• 43:04
  of
• 43:05
  that.
• 43:06
  And
• 43:07
  so
• 43:07
  these
• 43:07
  guys
• 43:08
  are,
• 43:08
  you
• 43:09
  know,
• 43:09
  poised
• 43:10
  to
• 43:10
  step
• 43:11
  out
• 43:11
  of
• 43:12
  the
• 43:13
  lunar
• 43:14
  capsule
• 43:15
  onto
• 43:15
  the
• 43:16
  face
• 43:16
  of
• 43:17
  the
• 43:17
  moon.
• 43:18
  And,
• 43:19
  you
• 43:19
  know,
• 43:19
  me
• 43:19
  and
• 43:20
  Eddie
• 43:20
  Krainpoe
• 43:20
  were
• 43:21
  standing
• 43:21
  there
• 43:21
  going,
• 43:22
  can
• 43:22
  you
• 43:22
  believe
• 43:22
  this,
• 43:23
  man?
• 43:23
  I
• 43:23
  mean,
• 43:23
  it
• 43:24
  was
• 43:24
  so
• 43:24
  amazing
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  us.
• 43:25
  It
• 43:25
  was
• 43:26
  so
• 43:26
  incredible.
• 43:27
  And
• 43:27
  here
• 43:27
  we
• 43:28
  are
• 43:29
  with
• 43:29
  our
• 43:29
  little
• 43:29
  thing
• 43:30
  going
• 43:30
  on.
• 43:30
  But
• 43:31
  this
• 43:31
  seemed.
• 43:32
  The
• 43:32
  lunar
• 43:33
  landings,
• 43:34
  Apollo
• 43:34
  11,
• 43:35
  seem
• 43:36
  so
• 43:36
  much
• 43:37
  more
• 43:37
  significant
• 43:39
  and
• 43:39
  incredible.
• 43:41
  And
• 43:41
  we
• 43:41
  watched
• 43:42
  it
• 43:42
  and
• 43:43
  got
• 43:43
  amazed,
• 43:44
  and
• 43:45
  they
• 43:45
  fixed
• 43:46
  our
• 43:46
  aircraft
• 43:47
  and
• 43:48
  we
• 43:49
  flew
• 43:49
  out
• 43:49
  of
• 43:49
  Montreal.
• 43:51
  But
• 43:51
  the
• 43:51
  irony
• 43:52
  was
• 43:52
  not
• 43:52
  lost
• 43:53
  on
• 43:53
  us
• 43:53
  that
• 43:54
  here,
• 43:55
  here
• 43:56
  we
• 43:56
  can't
• 43:56
  get
• 43:56
  from
• 43:57
  Montreal
• 43:57
  back
• 43:58
  to
• 43:58
  New
• 43:58
  York,
• 43:58
  for
• 43:59
  crying
• 43:59
  out
• 43:59
  loud.
• 44:00
  And
• 44:01
  we
• 44:01
  have
• 44:01
  Americans
• 44:02
  walking
• 44:03
  on
• 44:03
  the
• 44:03
  moon.
• 44:03
  It
• 44:04
  was
• 44:04
  crying
• 44:04
  out
• 44:05
  loud.
• 44:05
  Yeah.
• 44:06
  Quite
• 44:07
  ironic,
• 44:07
  as
• 44:08
  you
• 44:08
  say.
• 44:08
  Ron.
• 44:08
  Ron
• 44:09
  Swoboda
• 44:09
  with
• 44:10
  us
• 44:10
  tonight
• 44:10
  on
• 44:11
  Sports
• 44:11
  Talk
• 44:12
  New
• 44:12
  York.
• 44:13
  Now,
• 44:14
  a
• 44:14
  guy
• 44:14
  who
• 44:14
  didn't
• 44:15
  make
• 44:15
  it,
• 44:15
  really,
• 44:16
  to
• 44:16
  the
• 44:16
  youth
• 44:17
  movement
• 44:17
  of
• 44:18
  the
• 44:18
  Mets,
• 44:18
  when
• 44:19
  all
• 44:19
  these
• 44:19
  guys,
• 44:20
  Buddy
• 44:20
  and
• 44:20
  Cleon
• 44:21
  and
• 44:21
  yourself
• 44:22
  and
• 44:22
  Tug,
• 44:23
  Kenny,
• 44:23
  Boswell,
• 44:24
  Seaver
• 44:25
  and
• 44:25
  Koozman
• 44:26
  is
• 44:26
  Casey
• 44:27
  Stengel.
• 44:28
  You
• 44:28
  got
• 44:29
  any
• 44:29
  good
• 44:29
  Casey
• 44:30
  Stengel
• 44:30
  stories
• 44:31
  for
• 44:31
  us,
• 44:31
  Ron?
• 44:33
  Well,
• 44:34
  I
• 44:34
  loved
• 44:35
  the
• 44:35
  fact
• 44:35
  that
• 44:36
  I
• 44:36
  got
• 44:36
  to
• 44:36
  play
• 44:37
  for
• 44:37
  Casey
• 44:37
  Stengel
• 44:39
  as
• 44:39
  a
• 44:39
  rookie
• 44:40
  in
• 44:40
  1965.
• 44:41
  Okay?
• 44:43
  That
• 44:43
  was
• 44:43
  his.
• 44:44
  I
• 44:44
  played
• 44:44
  for
• 44:45
  him
• 44:45
  the
• 44:45
  first
• 44:45
  half
• 44:46
  of
• 44:46
  65.
• 44:48
  He
• 44:49
  injured
• 44:49
  himself,
• 44:50
  broke
• 44:51
  his
• 44:51
  hip
• 44:52
  and
• 44:53
  that
• 44:53
  was
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  end
• 44:54
  of
• 44:55
  his
• 44:56
  storied
• 44:56
  and
• 44:57
  incredible
• 44:58
  major
• 44:58
  league
• 44:58
  career
• 44:59
  as
• 44:59
  a
• 44:59
  player,
• 45:00
  as
• 45:01
  a
• 45:01
  manager,
• 45:02
  you
• 45:02
  know,
• 45:03
  as
• 45:03
  a
• 45:03
  manager
• 45:04
  of
• 45:04
  the
• 45:04
  Yankees
• 45:05
  when
• 45:05
  they
• 45:05
  were
• 45:05
  great
• 45:06
  through
• 45:06
  the
• 45:07
  late
• 45:07
  40s,
• 45:08
  early
• 45:09
  and
• 45:09
  all
• 45:09
  through
• 45:10
  the
• 45:10
  50s
• 45:10
  and
• 45:11
  you
• 45:11
  know,
• 45:11
  they
• 45:11
  had,
• 45:13
  Yankees
• 45:14
  had
• 45:14
  fired
• 45:15
  Yankees,
• 45:15
  they
• 45:16
  had
• 45:16
  fired
• 45:16
  Stengel,
• 45:18
  you
• 45:18
  know,
• 45:19
  and
• 45:19
  they
• 45:19
  were
• 45:21
  quite
• 45:21
  clear
• 45:21
  about
• 45:22
  the
• 45:22
  fact
• 45:22
  that
• 45:23
  they
• 45:23
  didn't
• 45:23
  think
• 45:23
  a
• 45:24
  70
• 45:24
  year
• 45:24
  old
• 45:25
  man
• 45:25
  could
• 45:26
  manage
• 45:26
  a
• 45:26
  major
• 45:27
  league
• 45:27
  team.
• 45:29
  And
• 45:30
  Stengel,
• 45:30
  you
• 45:31
  know,
• 45:31
  was
• 45:32
  immediately
• 45:33
  hired
• 45:33
  by
• 45:34
  George
• 45:34
  Weiss,
• 45:35
  who
• 45:35
  was
• 45:35
  a
• 45:35
  former
• 45:35
  Yankee
• 45:36
  guy,
• 45:37
  Yankee
• 45:38
  general
• 45:38
  manager,
• 45:39
  but
• 45:39
  he
• 45:39
  was
• 45:39
  the
• 45:40
  general
• 45:40
  manager
• 45:40
  of
• 45:40
  the
• 45:40
  Mets.
• 45:41
  He
• 45:41
  hired
• 45:41
  Stengel
• 45:42
  right
• 45:42
  away
• 45:45
  after
• 45:45
  the
• 45:45
  Yankees
• 45:46
  had
• 45:46
  fired
• 45:46
  him.
• 45:46
  And
• 45:47
  he
• 45:47
  was
• 45:47
  the
• 45:47
  manager
• 45:48
  in
• 45:48
  1962.
• 45:50
  And
• 45:51
  when
• 45:51
  he
• 45:51
  walked
• 45:52
  up
• 45:52
  to
• 45:52
  the
• 45:52
  microphone
• 45:53
  after
• 45:55
  taking
• 45:55
  the
• 45:55
  mess
• 45:56
  job,
• 45:56
  he
• 45:56
  said,
• 45:57
  you
• 45:58
  know,
• 45:58
  in
• 45:58
  that
• 45:58
  sting
• 45:59
  the
• 45:59
  leads
• 45:59
  kind
• 45:59
  of
• 46:00
  thing,
• 46:00
  you
• 46:00
  know,
• 46:00
  because
• 46:00
  Casey
• 46:01
  always
• 46:01
  talks
• 46:01
  like
• 46:02
  this,
• 46:03
  he
• 46:04
  said,
• 46:04
  all
• 46:05
  right,
• 46:05
  the
• 46:05
  Yankees
• 46:05
  fired
• 46:06
  me
• 46:06
  for
• 46:06
  being
• 46:07
  70
• 46:07
  years
• 46:07
  old.
• 46:08
  He
• 46:08
  said,
• 46:09
  but
• 46:09
  I'm
• 46:09
  here
• 46:09
  to
• 46:09
  tell
• 46:10
  you
• 46:10
  I
• 46:10
  won't
• 46:11
  make
• 46:11
  that
• 46:11
  mistake
• 46:12
  again.
• 46:15
  And
• 46:15
  it
• 46:15
  was
• 46:15
  beautiful.
• 46:16
  You
• 46:17
  know,
• 46:17
  this
• 46:18
  is
• 46:18
  the
• 46:18
  kind
• 46:18
  of
• 46:18
  amazing
• 46:19
  character
• 46:19
  he
• 46:20
  was.
• 46:21
  And
• 46:21
  he
• 46:21
  was
• 46:21
  perfect
• 46:23
  for
• 46:23
  the
• 46:23
  Mets.
• 46:24
  We
• 46:24
  were,
• 46:25
  you
• 46:26
  know,
• 46:26
  I
• 46:26
  wasn't
• 46:27
  there
• 46:27
  in
• 46:27
  1962.
• 46:28
  Eddie
• 46:29
  Creampool
• 46:30
  was
• 46:31
  right,
• 46:31
  but
• 46:32
  the
• 46:32
  Mets
• 46:32
  were
• 46:32
  hopeless
• 46:33
  and
• 46:34
  they
• 46:34
  were
• 46:34
  going
• 46:34
  to
• 46:34
  lose
• 46:35
  120
• 46:36
  games.
• 46:37
  And
• 46:40
  Stengel,
• 46:42
  according
• 46:42
  to
• 46:42
  Richie
• 46:43
  Aspirin
• 46:44
  after
• 46:44
  the
• 46:44
  season,
• 46:45
  said
• 46:46
  that
• 46:46
  was
• 46:46
  the
• 46:46
  major
• 46:47
  league
• 46:47
  record
• 46:47
  for
• 46:48
  futility
• 46:50
  in
• 46:50
  the
• 46:50
  big
• 46:50
  leagues.
• 46:52
  And
• 46:55
  Ricky
• 46:55
  Asburn
• 46:56
  said,
• 46:56
  Casey,
• 46:59
  excuse
• 46:59
  me.
• 47:00
  Bless
• 47:00
  you.
• 47:02
  Sorry.
• 47:02
  That's
• 47:03
  okay.
• 47:04
  Casey
• 47:04
  said.
• 47:05
  Casey
• 47:06
  said,
• 47:08
  all
• 47:08
  right
• 47:08
  guys.
• 47:08
  He
• 47:09
  got
• 47:09
  the
• 47:09
  team
• 47:09
  together
• 47:10
  after
• 47:10
  they
• 47:10
  lost
• 47:10
  120
• 47:11
  games.
• 47:12
  And
• 47:12
  he
• 47:12
  said,
• 47:14
  I
• 47:14
  don't
• 47:14
  want
• 47:14
  any
• 47:15
  of
• 47:15
  you
• 47:15
  guys
• 47:15
  to
• 47:15
  take
• 47:16
  any
• 47:16
  of
• 47:16
  this
• 47:16
  personally.
• 47:17
  He
• 47:18
  said,
• 47:18
  I
• 47:19
  want
• 47:19
  you
• 47:19
  all
• 47:19
  to
• 47:19
  remember
• 47:21
  it
• 47:21
  was
• 47:21
  a
• 47:21
  team
• 47:22
  effort.
• 47:27
  Yeah.
• 47:27
  Oh
• 47:28
  man,
• 47:28
  you
• 47:29
  know,
• 47:29
  if
• 47:29
  that's
• 47:30
  apocryphal,
• 47:31
  it's
• 47:31
  still
• 47:31
  a
• 47:31
  great
• 47:32
  story.
• 47:34
  Yeah,
• 47:34
  he
• 47:34
  came
• 47:35
  up
• 47:35
  with
• 47:35
  some
• 47:35
  beauties.
• 47:36
  He
• 47:36
  really
• 47:36
  did
• 47:37
  well.
• 47:38
  He
• 47:38
  was
• 47:39
  a
• 47:39
  bright
• 47:39
  man.
• 47:41
  He
• 47:41
  really
• 47:41
  was
• 47:41
  a
• 47:42
  very
• 47:42
  bright
• 47:43
  man
• 47:44
  and
• 47:44
  he
• 47:44
  had
• 47:45
  done
• 47:45
  everything
• 47:46
  in
• 47:46
  baseball.
• 47:48
  You
• 47:48
  know,
• 47:49
  when
• 47:49
  he
• 47:49
  got,
• 47:50
  you
• 47:51
  know,
• 47:51
  when
• 47:51
  he
• 47:51
  got
• 47:51
  one
• 47:51
  of
• 47:52
  his,
• 47:52
  I
• 47:53
  think
• 47:53
  it
• 47:53
  was
• 47:53
  a
• 47:54
  big
• 47:54
  league
• 47:54
  job.
• 47:55
  When
• 47:55
  he
• 47:55
  got
• 47:55
  his,
• 47:56
  he
• 47:57
  was
• 47:57
  hired
• 47:57
  to
• 47:58
  manage
• 47:58
  in
• 47:58
  the
• 47:59
  minor
• 47:59
  leagues,
• 48:01
  I
• 48:01
  think.
• 48:02
  I'm
• 48:03
  trying
• 48:03
  to
• 48:03
  remember,
• 48:04
  my
• 48:04
  memory's
• 48:05
  a
• 48:05
  little
• 48:06
  rickety
• 48:07
  here,
• 48:07
  but
• 48:08
  I
• 48:09
  think
• 48:09
  it
• 48:09
  was
• 48:09
  in
• 48:09
  Kansas
• 48:10
  City
• 48:10
  or
• 48:10
  somewhere.
• 48:11
  But
• 48:11
  he
• 48:11
  was
• 48:11
  in
• 48:12
  the
• 48:12
  minor
• 48:12
  league.
• 48:13
  He
• 48:14
  was
• 48:14
  the
• 48:14
  minor
• 48:15
  league
• 48:15
  field
• 48:16
  manager
• 48:17
  and
• 48:17
  the
• 48:17
  general
• 48:18
  manager
• 48:19
  and
• 48:19
  he
• 48:19
  got
• 48:20
  offered
• 48:23
  a
• 48:23
  big
• 48:23
  league
• 48:23
  job,
• 48:25
  but
• 48:26
  he
• 48:26
  had
• 48:26
  a
• 48:26
  contract
• 48:27
  at
• 48:27
  the
• 48:28
  time
• 48:29
  and
• 48:29
  like
• 48:29
  what
• 48:30
  he
• 48:30
  did
• 48:30
  was
• 48:31
  he
• 48:31
  resigned
• 48:32
  as
• 48:32
  field
• 48:33
  manager
• 48:35
  and
• 48:35
  fired
• 48:36
  himself
• 48:37
  as
• 48:37
  general
• 48:38
  manager
• 48:39
  so
• 48:40
  he
• 48:40
  could
• 48:40
  take
• 48:40
  this
• 48:41
  job,
• 48:42
  you
• 48:42
  know,
• 48:43
  to
• 48:43
  advance
• 48:43
  his
• 48:45
  career
• 48:47
  in
• 48:47
  major
• 48:48
  league
• 48:48
  Baseball.
• 48:50
  You
• 48:50
  know,
• 48:50
  Casey
• 48:50
  Stengel
• 48:52
  was,
• 48:53
  you
• 48:53
  know,
• 48:54
  he
• 48:54
  probably
• 48:55
  tarnished
• 48:56
  his
• 48:57
  reputation
• 48:58
  with
• 48:59
  the
• 48:59
  comedy
• 49:00
  that
• 49:00
  came
• 49:01
  with
• 49:01
  the
• 49:01
  New
• 49:01
  York
• 49:02
  Mets
• 49:04
  while
• 49:04
  he
• 49:04
  helped
• 49:05
  the
• 49:05
  franchise
• 49:06
  move
• 49:06
  along
• 49:07
  through
• 49:07
  those
• 49:08
  early
• 49:08
  and
• 49:10
  unsuccessful
• 49:11
  years.
• 49:13
  You
• 49:13
  know,
• 49:13
  you
• 49:13
  forget
• 49:14
  that
• 49:14
  he
• 49:14
  was
• 49:15
  really
• 49:15
  a
• 49:15
  brilliant
• 49:16
  guy
• 49:17
  and
• 49:17
  knew
• 49:17
  exactly
• 49:18
  what
• 49:18
  he
• 49:18
  was
• 49:18
  doing.
• 49:19
  Yeah,
• 49:20
  yeah,
• 49:21
  he
• 49:21
  knew
• 49:21
  what
• 49:21
  he
• 49:22
  was
• 49:22
  saying
• 49:22
  and
• 49:23
  he
• 49:23
  knew
• 49:24
  how
• 49:24
  to
• 49:24
  handle
• 49:25
  the
• 49:25
  press.
• 49:25
  He
• 49:26
  was
• 49:26
  a
• 49:26
  master
• 49:27
  at
• 49:27
  that.
• 49:28
  And
• 49:28
  kids,
• 49:29
  you
• 49:29
  google
• 49:30
  Casey
• 49:30
  Stengel,
• 49:31
  you
• 49:31
  google
• 49:31
  him
• 49:31
  as
• 49:31
  a
• 49:32
  rookie.
• 49:32
  He
• 49:32
  looks
• 49:33
  the
• 49:33
  same
• 49:33
  as
• 49:34
  he
• 49:34
  does
• 49:34
  when
• 49:35
  he
• 49:35
  managed
• 49:35
  the
• 49:35
  mets.
• 49:36
  He
• 49:36
  looked
• 49:36
  70
• 49:37
  when
• 49:37
  he
• 49:38
  was
• 49:38
  20.
• 49:40
  And
• 49:41
  you
• 49:41
  know,
• 49:41
  and
• 49:42
  he
• 49:42
  was
• 49:42
  an
• 49:42
  old
• 49:42
  right
• 49:42
  fielder.
• 49:43
  I
• 49:44
  always
• 49:44
  identified
• 49:45
  with
• 49:45
  him
• 49:46
  because
• 49:46
  he
• 49:46
  was
• 49:46
  an
• 49:46
  old
• 49:47
  right
• 49:47
  fielder.
• 49:48
  And
• 49:49
  you
• 49:50
  know,
• 49:50
  and
• 49:50
  I
• 49:50
  listened
• 49:51
  to
• 49:51
  everything
• 49:51
  he
• 49:51
  said.
• 49:52
  I
• 49:53
  always
• 49:53
  listened
• 49:54
  when
• 49:54
  he
• 49:54
  was
• 49:55
  talking
• 49:55
  to
• 49:55
  the
• 49:55
  media.
• 49:56
  I
• 49:57
  would
• 49:57
  kind
• 49:57
  of
• 49:58
  hover,
• 49:59
  you
• 49:59
  know,
• 50:00
  around
• 50:01
  when
• 50:01
  the
• 50:02
  media
• 50:02
  were
• 50:02
  looking
• 50:02
  for
• 50:03
  a
• 50:03
  couple
• 50:03
  of
• 50:03
  quotes
• 50:03
  and
• 50:04
  a
• 50:04
  little
• 50:04
  story
• 50:04
  or
• 50:05
  something
• 50:05
  because
• 50:06
  that's
• 50:06
  what
• 50:06
  he
• 50:06
  helped
• 50:07
  the
• 50:07
  Mets
• 50:08
  do
• 50:09
  in
• 50:09
  the
• 50:09
  early
• 50:10
  going
• 50:10
  when
• 50:10
  you
• 50:11
  knew
• 50:11
  the
• 50:11
  baseball
• 50:11
  wasn't
• 50:12
  going
• 50:12
  to
• 50:12
  be
• 50:12
  very
• 50:15
  successful.
• 50:17
  But
• 50:18
  he
• 50:18
  kept
• 50:18
  the
• 50:18
  stories
• 50:19
  flowing
• 50:20
  and
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  writers
• 50:21
  in
• 50:21
  New
• 50:21
  York,
• 50:22
  he
• 50:22
  fed
• 50:23
  them
• 50:23
  stories
• 50:25
  and
• 50:25
  they
• 50:25
  had
• 50:26
  things
• 50:26
  to
• 50:26
  write
• 50:27
  about
• 50:28
  other
• 50:28
  than
• 50:28
  the
• 50:29
  abject
• 50:30
  failure
• 50:31
  of
• 50:31
  the
• 50:32
  franchise
• 50:33
  in
• 50:33
  free
• 50:33
  agency.
• 50:35
  You
• 50:35
  know,
• 50:35
  back
• 50:36
  in
• 50:36
  1962,
• 50:37
  63,
• 50:39
  64,
• 50:40
  and
• 50:40
  you
• 50:41
  know,
• 50:41
  in
• 50:41
  1H65
• 50:44
  before
• 50:44
  he
• 50:44
  hurt
• 50:45
  himself
• 50:45
  and
• 50:46
  broke
• 50:46
  his
• 50:47
  hip
• 50:47
  and
• 50:47
  had
• 50:47
  to
• 50:47
  retire.
• 50:50
  Ron,
• 50:51
  we
• 50:51
  spoke
• 50:52
  about
• 50:52
  the
• 50:52
  catch.
• 50:54
  You've
• 50:54
  cemented
• 50:55
  your
• 50:55
  place
• 50:55
  in
• 50:55
  baseball
• 50:56
  history,
• 50:56
  but
• 50:57
  people
• 50:57
  may
• 50:57
  not
• 50:57
  realize
• 50:59
  how
• 50:59
  close
• 50:59
  you
• 51:00
  came
• 51:00
  to
• 51:01
  being
• 51:02
  the
• 51:02
  first
• 51:02
  designated
• 51:03
  hitter
• 51:03
  in
• 51:03
  baseball
• 51:04
  history.
• 51:06
  Yeah,
• 51:08
  I
• 51:08
  was
• 51:09
  with
• 51:09
  the
• 51:09
  Yankees
• 51:11
  and
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  first
• 51:12
  year
• 51:14
  of
• 51:16
  the
• 51:16
  dh
• 51:18
  and
• 51:19
  we
• 51:20
  were
• 51:20
  in
• 51:20
  Boston
• 51:20
  with
• 51:21
  the
• 51:21
  Yankees
• 51:22
  and
• 51:22
  they
• 51:23
  started
• 51:23
  a
• 51:24
  right
• 51:24
  handed
• 51:24
  pitcher
• 51:25
  and
• 51:26
  our
• 51:26
  right
• 51:26
  handed
• 51:27
  DH
• 51:27
  was
• 51:28
  Ron
• 51:28
  Bloomberg
• 51:29
  who
• 51:29
  was
• 51:29
  a
• 51:30
  pretty
• 51:30
  good
• 51:30
  left
• 51:30
  handed
• 51:31
  hitter.
• 51:33
  And
• 51:33
  because
• 51:34
  if
• 51:35
  they
• 51:35
  started
• 51:35
  a
• 51:36
  left
• 51:36
  hander
• 51:36
  the
• 51:37
  next
• 51:37
  day
• 51:38
  and
• 51:39
  I
• 51:39
  was
• 51:39
  the
• 51:39
  dh,
• 51:40
  but
• 51:42
  Ron
• 51:42
  Bloomberg,
• 51:44
  you
• 51:44
  know,
• 51:44
  took
• 51:44
  that
• 51:45
  honor
• 51:45
  as
• 51:46
  he
• 51:46
  should
• 51:46
  have.
• 51:46
  He
• 51:47
  was
• 51:47
  a
• 51:47
  pretty
• 51:47
  good,
• 51:48
  he
• 51:49
  was
• 51:49
  a
• 51:49
  perfect
• 51:50
  player
• 51:50
  for
• 51:50
  the
• 51:50
  dh.
• 51:52
  He
• 51:52
  really
• 51:52
  was.
• 51:53
  I
• 51:53
  mean,
• 51:54
  we
• 51:55
  used
• 51:55
  to
• 51:55
  joke
• 51:55
  that
• 51:56
  he,
• 51:56
  you
• 51:56
  know,
• 51:57
  he
• 51:58
  was
• 51:58
  like
• 51:58
  Michael
• 51:58
  Jackson,
• 51:59
  you
• 51:59
  know,
• 51:59
  he
• 51:59
  wore
• 52:00
  a
• 52:00
  glove
• 52:01
  on
• 52:02
  his
• 52:02
  hand
• 52:03
  for
• 52:03
  no
• 52:03
  particular
• 52:04
  reason.
• 52:06
  Bloomberg,
• 52:08
  you
• 52:08
  know,
• 52:08
  Bloomberg
• 52:08
  was
• 52:09
  no
• 52:09
  kind
• 52:10
  of
• 52:10
  defensive
• 52:11
  player,
• 52:11
  but
• 52:11
  boy,
• 52:12
  was
• 52:12
  he
• 52:12
  a
• 52:12
  good
• 52:12
  left
• 52:13
  handed
• 52:13
  hitter.
• 52:14
  Yes,
• 52:15
  and
• 52:15
  he
• 52:16
  was
• 52:16
  perfect
• 52:16
  for
• 52:17
  that
• 52:17
  role
• 52:17
  because
• 52:18
  he
• 52:18
  really
• 52:18
  didn't
• 52:19
  have
• 52:19
  a
• 52:19
  defensive
• 52:20
  position.
• 52:21
  And
• 52:22
  that
• 52:23
  whole
• 52:23
  DH
• 52:24
  thing
• 52:24
  worked
• 52:25
  for
• 52:25
  him.
• 52:26
  He
• 52:26
  was
• 52:26
  comfortable
• 52:27
  in
• 52:27
  that
• 52:28
  position.
• 52:30
  I
• 52:30
  was
• 52:30
  a
• 52:30
  former
• 52:31
  player
• 52:31
  who,
• 52:32
  you
• 52:32
  know,
• 52:32
  took
• 52:32
  some
• 52:33
  pride
• 52:33
  in
• 52:33
  defense
• 52:34
  and
• 52:34
  I,
• 52:36
  I
• 52:36
  Couldn't
• 52:36
  handle
• 52:36
  it.
• 52:38
  I
• 52:38
  couldn't.
• 52:39
  You
• 52:39
  know,
• 52:39
  DH
• 52:40
  is
• 52:40
  really
• 52:40
  peculiar
• 52:42
  as
• 52:42
  a
• 52:42
  physician.
• 52:43
  Back
• 52:43
  then,
• 52:44
  you
• 52:44
  didn't
• 52:44
  know
• 52:44
  how
• 52:45
  to
• 52:46
  psychologically
• 52:48
  handle
• 52:48
  it.
• 52:48
  And
• 52:49
  one
• 52:49
  of
• 52:49
  the
• 52:49
  things
• 52:49
  you
• 52:50
  had
• 52:50
  to
• 52:50
  learn
• 52:50
  to
• 52:50
  do
• 52:51
  was
• 52:55
  you
• 52:55
  had
• 52:55
  a.
• 52:55
  You
• 52:55
  had
• 52:56
  to
• 52:56
  figure
• 52:56
  out
• 52:56
  what
• 52:56
  to
• 52:57
  do
• 52:57
  with
• 52:57
  all
• 52:57
  this
• 52:58
  time
• 52:58
  after
• 52:59
  your
• 52:59
  first
• 52:59
  at
• 53:00
  bat.
• 53:00
  Right.
• 53:01
  You
• 53:01
  know,
• 53:02
  you
• 53:02
  couldn't
• 53:03
  dwell
• 53:03
  on
• 53:04
  your
• 53:04
  first
• 53:04
  at
• 53:04
  bat
• 53:05
  when
• 53:06
  you're
• 53:06
  playing
• 53:06
  a
• 53:07
  position,
• 53:07
  which
• 53:07
  I
• 53:08
  always
• 53:08
  did.
• 53:08
  You
• 53:09
  ran
• 53:09
  out
• 53:09
  in
• 53:09
  the
• 53:09
  outfield
• 53:10
  and
• 53:10
  you
• 53:10
  played
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  position
• 53:11
  that
• 53:11
  distracted
• 53:12
  you.
• 53:14
  When
• 53:14
  I
• 53:14
  got
• 53:15
  a
• 53:15
  chance
• 53:16
  at
• 53:16
  the
• 53:16
  dh,
• 53:17
  all
• 53:17
  I
• 53:17
  could
• 53:17
  think
• 53:17
  about
• 53:18
  was
• 53:18
  that
• 53:18
  last
• 53:18
  at
• 53:19
  bat,
• 53:19
  and
• 53:19
  I
• 53:19
  couldn't
• 53:20
  separate
• 53:20
  myself
• 53:21
  from
• 53:21
  that.
• 53:22
  And
• 53:22
  you'd
• 53:22
  go
• 53:22
  in
• 53:23
  and
• 53:23
  take
• 53:23
  swings
• 53:24
  in
• 53:24
  the
• 53:24
  clubhouse
• 53:25
  and
• 53:25
  you
• 53:25
  did
• 53:25
  all
• 53:25
  this
• 53:26
  stuff
• 53:26
  because
• 53:26
  you
• 53:26
  thought,
• 53:27
  all
• 53:27
  I.
• 53:27
  Am
• 53:27
  is
• 53:27
  the
• 53:28
  hitter.
• 53:28
  And
• 53:28
  you're
• 53:29
  trying
• 53:29
  to
• 53:29
  get
• 53:29
  yourself
• 53:30
  loose
• 53:30
  and
• 53:30
  ready
• 53:31
  for
• 53:31
  the
• 53:31
  next
• 53:31
  at
• 53:31
  bat,
• 53:32
  but
• 53:32
  you're
• 53:33
  dwelling
• 53:33
  on
• 53:33
  the
• 53:34
  last
• 53:34
  at
• 53:34
  bat
• 53:35
  in
• 53:35
  a
• 53:35
  way
• 53:36
  that,
• 53:37
  you
• 53:37
  know,
• 53:37
  as
• 53:38
  the
• 53:38
  D8.
• 53:39
  For
• 53:39
  me,
• 53:40
  it
• 53:40
  didn't
• 53:40
  work.
• 53:40
  I
• 53:41
  couldn't
• 53:41
  do
• 53:41
  it.
• 53:42
  I
• 53:42
  had
• 53:43
  no
• 53:43
  chance
• 53:44
  at
• 53:45
  being
• 53:46
  any
• 53:46
  use
• 53:47
  for
• 53:47
  the
• 53:47
  Yankees
• 53:48
  as
• 53:48
  a
• 53:48
  dh.
• 53:49
  But
• 53:49
  Ron
• 53:49
  Bloomberg
• 53:50
  was
• 53:51
  excellent
• 53:51
  at
• 53:52
  it.
• 53:52
  Yeah,
• 53:52
  the
• 53:53
  thing
• 53:53
  is,
• 53:53
  folks,
• 53:54
  the
• 53:54
  Red
• 53:54
  Sox
• 53:55
  started
• 53:55
  Louis
• 53:55
  Teon,
• 53:56
  a
• 53:56
  right
• 53:57
  hander.
• 53:57
  So
• 53:58
  Ron
• 53:59
  Bloomberg
• 54:00
  became
• 54:01
  the
• 54:01
  first
• 54:01
  designated
• 54:02
  hitter.
• 54:02
  Oh,
• 54:03
  first
• 54:03
  dh.
• 54:04
  Yeah.
• 54:04
  We
• 54:04
  opened
• 54:05
  that
• 54:05
  season,
• 54:06
  you
• 54:06
  know,
• 54:07
  and,
• 54:08
  and,
• 54:09
  and
• 54:09
  he
• 54:09
  was
• 54:10
  in
• 54:10
  so
• 54:11
  many
• 54:11
  ways
• 54:11
  perfect
• 54:12
  for
• 54:12
  the
• 54:12
  position.
• 54:13
  And
• 54:14
  people
• 54:14
  may
• 54:14
  not
• 54:15
  realize,
• 54:15
  Ron,
• 54:16
  that
• 54:16
  the
• 54:16
  DH
• 54:16
  for
• 54:17
  the
• 54:17
  Red
• 54:17
  Sox
• 54:17
  that
• 54:18
  day
• 54:18
  was
• 54:19
  hall
• 54:19
  of
• 54:19
  Famer
• 54:19
  Orlando
• 54:20
  Cepeda.
• 54:23
  Oh,
• 54:23
  boy,
• 54:23
  have
• 54:23
  I
• 54:24
  forgotten
• 54:24
  that
• 54:24
  one.
• 54:25
  That's
• 54:26
  a
• 54:26
  good
• 54:26
  piece
• 54:26
  of
• 54:26
  trivia.
• 54:27
  Well,
• 54:28
  because,
• 54:28
  you
• 54:28
  know,
• 54:29
  a
• 54:30
  lot
• 54:30
  of
• 54:30
  people
• 54:30
  forget
• 54:31
  this
• 54:31
  and
• 54:31
  I'm
• 54:32
  going
• 54:32
  to
• 54:32
  take
• 54:32
  you
• 54:32
  back
• 54:32
  to
• 54:33
  1969
• 54:34
  now.
• 54:35
  Yeah,
• 54:35
  in
• 54:36
  1969,
• 54:38
  in
• 54:38
  spring
• 54:39
  training.
• 54:40
  All
• 54:40
  right.
• 54:40
  Before
• 54:41
  anything
• 54:41
  happened
• 54:42
  for
• 54:42
  us
• 54:42
  or
• 54:42
  anybody
• 54:43
  else,
• 54:44
  the
• 54:44
  Braves
• 54:45
  and
• 54:45
  the
• 54:45
  Mets
• 54:45
  were
• 54:45
  talking
• 54:46
  trade.
• 54:47
  Oh,
• 54:48
  yeah,
• 54:48
  I
• 54:48
  remember.
• 54:49
  And
• 54:49
  they
• 54:49
  were
• 54:50
  hot
• 54:50
  and
• 54:50
  heavy
• 54:51
  because
• 54:51
  the,
• 54:51
  the
• 54:52
  Braves
• 54:52
  wanted
• 54:53
  to
• 54:53
  move
• 54:53
  Joe
• 54:53
  Tory,
• 54:54
  who
• 54:54
  was
• 54:54
  a,
• 54:55
  who
• 54:55
  was
• 54:55
  a
• 54:55
  really
• 54:56
  good
• 54:56
  hitter
• 54:57
  and
• 54:57
  could
• 54:58
  play
• 54:58
  first
• 54:58
  base.
• 54:59
  I
• 55:00
  don't
• 55:00
  know
• 55:00
  if
• 55:00
  he
• 55:00
  was
• 55:01
  as
• 55:01
  much
• 55:01
  a
• 55:01
  catcher
• 55:02
  then,
• 55:03
  but,
• 55:03
  but
• 55:04
  the
• 55:04
  Braves.
• 55:05
  The
• 55:06
  Braves
• 55:06
  wanted
• 55:06
  to
• 55:07
  trade
• 55:07
  Tori
• 55:08
  to
• 55:08
  the
• 55:08
  Mets
• 55:09
  and
• 55:09
  they
• 55:09
  wanted
• 55:09
  to
• 55:10
  pick
• 55:10
  up
• 55:11
  a
• 55:11
  couple
• 55:11
  of
• 55:11
  us,
• 55:12
  our
• 55:12
  younger
• 55:13
  pitchers,
• 55:13
  you
• 55:14
  know,
• 55:14
  our
• 55:14
  good
• 55:15
  arms,
• 55:15
  you
• 55:15
  know,
• 55:15
  whether
• 55:15
  it
• 55:16
  was
• 55:17
  McAndrew
• 55:18
  or.
• 55:20
  You.
• 55:21
  Know,
• 55:21
  I
• 55:21
  don't
• 55:21
  know
• 55:21
  if
• 55:22
  Nolan
• 55:22
  Ryan,
• 55:23
  I'm
• 55:23
  sure
• 55:23
  they
• 55:23
  would
• 55:24
  love
• 55:24
  a
• 55:24
  Nolan
• 55:25
  Ryan
• 55:25
  or
• 55:26
  Gary
• 55:26
  Gentry
• 55:27
  especially,
• 55:29
  but
• 55:29
  they
• 55:29
  were
• 55:29
  trying
• 55:30
  to
• 55:30
  grab
• 55:30
  some
• 55:30
  pitching
• 55:31
  out
• 55:31
  of
• 55:32
  a
• 55:32
  Mets
• 55:33
  organization
• 55:34
  that
• 55:34
  was
• 55:34
  flush
• 55:35
  with
• 55:36
  good
• 55:36
  young
• 55:36
  arms.
• 55:38
  And
• 55:38
  Johnny
• 55:38
  Murphy,
• 55:39
  who
• 55:39
  was
• 55:39
  the
• 55:39
  general
• 55:39
  manager
• 55:40
  of
• 55:40
  the
• 55:40
  Mets,
• 55:41
  you
• 55:41
  know,
• 55:42
  was
• 55:42
  like
• 55:42
  not
• 55:43
  buying
• 55:43
  Any
• 55:43
  of
• 55:44
  this
• 55:44
  from
• 55:44
  Paul
• 55:45
  Richards,
• 55:45
  the
• 55:45
  GM
• 55:46
  of,
• 55:46
  of
• 55:47
  the,
• 55:47
  of
• 55:48
  the
• 55:48
  Braves
• 55:49
  back
• 55:49
  then.
• 55:52
  And
• 55:52
  Johnny
• 55:52
  turned
• 55:53
  down
• 55:53
  every
• 55:53
  idea
• 55:54
  that
• 55:54
  Richards
• 55:55
  had.
• 55:55
  Richards
• 55:56
  said,
• 55:56
  you
• 55:57
  know,
• 55:57
  all
• 55:57
  these
• 55:57
  players,
• 55:58
  you
• 55:58
  know,
• 55:58
  that
• 55:58
  Murphy
• 55:59
  is
• 55:59
  saying
• 56:00
  are
• 56:00
  untouchable.
• 56:01
  Paul
• 56:02
  Richards
• 56:02
  said,
• 56:03
  you
• 56:03
  sound
• 56:04
  like
• 56:04
  you
• 56:04
  won
• 56:04
  the
• 56:05
  World
• 56:05
  Series
• 56:05
  last
• 56:06
  year
• 56:06
  or
• 56:06
  something
• 56:07
  like
• 56:07
  that,
• 56:07
  you
• 56:07
  know,
• 56:09
  but
• 56:10
  it's
• 56:10
  interesting
• 56:11
  because
• 56:12
  the
• 56:12
  Mets
• 56:13
  never
• 56:13
  made
• 56:13
  a
• 56:13
  move
• 56:14
  with
• 56:14
  them.
• 56:16
  No,
• 56:16
  the
• 56:16
  Braves
• 56:17
  never
• 56:17
  got
• 56:17
  the
• 56:18
  pitching
• 56:18
  they
• 56:18
  were
• 56:19
  looking
• 56:19
  for.
• 56:19
  And
• 56:20
  they
• 56:20
  traded
• 56:20
  Joe
• 56:21
  Torre
• 56:21
  to
• 56:22
  the
• 56:22
  Cardinals
• 56:23
  straight
• 56:23
  up
• 56:23
  for
• 56:23
  Orlando
• 56:24
  Cepeda.
• 56:25
  He
• 56:25
  gave
• 56:26
  them
• 56:26
  a
• 56:26
  pretty
• 56:27
  substantial
• 56:29
  lineup.
• 56:30
  Okay,
• 56:31
  yeah,
• 56:31
  he
• 56:31
  won
• 56:31
  the
• 56:31
  batting
• 56:32
  time.
• 56:33
  And
• 56:33
  Rico
• 56:34
  Carty,
• 56:35
  but
• 56:35
  they
• 56:35
  never
• 56:36
  got
• 56:36
  the
• 56:36
  pitching.
• 56:37
  And
• 56:37
  that
• 56:38
  was
• 56:38
  the
• 56:38
  team
• 56:38
  that
• 56:39
  we
• 56:39
  met
• 56:39
  in
• 56:40
  the
• 56:40
  first
• 56:40
  ever
• 56:42
  National
• 56:42
  League
• 56:42
  playoff
• 56:43
  series.
• 56:44
  And
• 56:44
  our
• 56:44
  left
• 56:45
  handed
• 56:46
  platoon
• 56:46
  with
• 56:47
  the
• 56:47
  Mets
• 56:47
  because
• 56:48
  Hodges
• 56:48
  was
• 56:49
  platooning
• 56:50
  straight
• 56:50
  up
• 56:50
  with
• 56:51
  a
• 56:51
  lot
• 56:51
  of
• 56:51
  positions
• 56:52
  back
• 56:52
  then,
• 56:53
  straight
• 56:53
  up,
• 56:55
  they
• 56:55
  took
• 56:55
  care
• 56:56
  of
• 56:56
  the.
• 56:56
  Right
• 56:56
  handers
• 56:57
  on
• 56:57
  the
• 56:57
  Braves.
• 57:00
  They
• 57:00
  beat
• 57:01
  our
• 57:01
  left
• 57:01
  handed
• 57:02
  platoon,
• 57:03
  beat
• 57:03
  the
• 57:03
  heck
• 57:03
  out
• 57:04
  of
• 57:04
  the
• 57:04
  Braves
• 57:04
  pitching
• 57:05
  because
• 57:05
  they
• 57:05
  didn't
• 57:06
  get
• 57:06
  the
• 57:06
  pitching
• 57:07
  they
• 57:07
  wanted
• 57:07
  to
• 57:08
  get
• 57:08
  in
• 57:09
  spring
• 57:09
  training
• 57:10
  with
• 57:10
  that
• 57:10
  deal.
• 57:11
  They
• 57:11
  talked
• 57:11
  with
• 57:11
  the
• 57:12
  Mets
• 57:12
  and
• 57:13
  I
• 57:13
  think
• 57:13
  that's
• 57:14
  uber
• 57:15
  significant
• 57:16
  and
• 57:17
  not
• 57:17
  talked
• 57:17
  about
• 57:17
  very
• 57:18
  much.
• 57:18
  It
• 57:18
  sure
• 57:19
  is.
• 57:19
  Ron,
• 57:20
  we
• 57:20
  gotta
• 57:20
  run.
• 57:20
  We'll
• 57:21
  get
• 57:21
  you
• 57:21
  back
• 57:21
  again.
• 57:22
  It's
• 57:23
  always
• 57:23
  a
• 57:23
  pleasure.
• 57:24
  Thanks
• 57:24
  for
• 57:25
  taking
• 57:25
  time
• 57:25
  out
• 57:25
  of
• 57:25
  your
• 57:26
  Sunday
• 57:26
  night
• 57:26
  to
• 57:26
  spend
• 57:27
  it
• 57:27
  with
• 57:27
  us
• 57:27
  here.
• 57:28
  All
• 57:28
  the
• 57:29
  best
• 57:29
  to
• 57:29
  you
• 57:29
  and
• 57:29
  your
• 57:30
  lovely
• 57:30
  wife
• 57:30
  and
• 57:31
  I'll
• 57:31
  be
• 57:31
  in
• 57:31
  touch
• 57:32
  with
• 57:32
  you
• 57:32
  and
• 57:33
  have
• 57:33
  a
• 57:33
  good
• 57:33
  night.
• 57:34
  Ron,
• 57:35
  same
• 57:35
  for
• 57:35
  you.
• 57:36
  Thank
• 57:36
  you,
• 57:37
  enjoyed
• 57:37
  it.
• 57:38
  That
• 57:38
  is
• 57:38
  Ron
• 57:38
  Swoboda,
• 57:39
  ladies
• 57:39
  and
• 57:39
  gentlemen.
• 57:40
  That'll
• 57:40
  do
• 57:40
  it
• 57:40
  for
• 57:41
  me
• 57:41
  tonight
• 57:41
  on
• 57:41
  Sports
• 57:42
  Talk
• 57:42
  New
• 57:42
  York.
• 57:43
  Like
• 57:43
  to
• 57:43
  thank
• 57:44
  my
• 57:44
  guests
• 57:44
  Jim
• 57:44
  Marshall
• 57:45
  and
• 57:45
  Ron
• 57:46
  Swoboda,
• 57:47
  my
• 57:47
  engineer
• 57:47
  Trevor
• 57:48
  Vassall,
• 57:48
  and
• 57:49
  of
• 57:49
  course
• 57:49
  you
• 57:49
  guys
• 57:50
  for
• 57:50
  joining
• 57:50
  us.
• 57:51
  I'll
• 57:51
  see
• 57:51
  you
• 57:52
  Next
• 57:52
  on
• 57:52
  Sunday,
• 57:53
  August
• 57:53
  17
• 57:54
  for
• 57:54
  more
• 57:54
  sports
• 57:55
  Talk
• 57:55
  New
• 57:55
  York.
• 57:56
  Till
• 57:56
  then,
• 57:57
  be
• 57:57
  safe,
• 57:57
  be
• 57:58
  well.
• 57:58
  Bill
• 57:59
  Donahue,
• 57:59
  wishing
• 58:00
  you
• 58:00
  a
• 58:00
  good
• 58:00
  evening,
• 58:00
  folks.