Latest / CALL ME MISTRESS / CUCKOLDING, SOME SWEET FAN EMAILS & ONCE A VIRGIN LESBIAN - KINKY KYLIE!
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- 0:07Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call me Mistress I'm
- 0:10your Hostess Mistress Mia, and today I've got with me Kylie,
- 0:13the non lesbian virgin. Yes, hi yeah, Kylie.
- 0:19So Kylie, today we're going to talk about cuckolding.
- 0:22We're going to talk about a couple of scenes in the dungeon
- 0:27and probably you suck a Dick. OK?
- 0:33Yeah, Yeah, we'll talk about that.
- 0:35Can't we? Yeah.
- 0:37Last night. I'm just going to go jump into
- 0:39this one little topic. So last night I was with one of
- 0:44my absolute favorite people. He comes to the dungeon, he gets
- 0:49to see me maybe once every other month.
- 0:51He works out of town a lot, etcetera, etcetera.
- 0:53But he purchased a new vac bed just for me and him and my
- 1:00husband because they love the vac bed experience.
- 1:05And typically anyone who's new has never been in a vac bed.
- 1:09They really don't know how to maneuver.
- 1:11They don't know the fact that latex is extremely sensitive.
- 1:15It tears very easily. It's a pain in the ass to care
- 1:19for. So ultimately, you know, we will
- 1:22still have one for the dungeon, but this will be for our own
- 1:25personal use. But he came last night when he
- 1:28went in it. I helped him, but then he wanted
- 1:32to stay in there three hours. And I do like tease and denial.
- 1:38I do. I use some of our implements
- 1:41that we have. I do a lot of sensory play and
- 1:44breath play. And he loves it.
- 1:47He had a great time with it. He brought me in years ago, and
- 1:53I forget what it's called. It's basically it's a manual
- 1:56penis pump, but it works by a machine.
- 2:01It's super cool. Anyway, so we use that a lot.
- 2:04It's a lot of fun. And so after the entire session
- 2:08was done with, normally you could just unzip and get out,
- 2:11but this doesn't have any zippers.
- 2:13So I was like, huh, Well, I took a couple pictures of the scene
- 2:17and I posted on fat. You liked it?
- 2:19Yeah. And we, God, we didn't finish
- 2:24until almost midnight. It was a long ass session.
- 2:26Yeah, it was a long day yesterday.
- 2:29And so when he was trying to get out of the sleep sack, I was
- 2:35sitting on the couch looking at him.
- 2:36And he's like, you're having fun with this, aren't you?
- 2:38I'm like, yes, please come out of the womb to come and see me
- 2:42because he's like looking back and he's like, stuck.
- 2:45And you get in there and you're fucking sweating your ass off
- 2:48and you're like, Oh my God, I can't move.
- 2:50How am I going to get out? And I'm like, look, I got you,
- 2:53Boo. This is what we're going to do.
- 2:56And so because it has one solid frame, I just took the latex and
- 3:00started rolling it down off the frame and it was sliding because
- 3:03he's sweaty, it's sweaty and he's just sweat pouring down and
- 3:08sliding it off. He's like, Oh my God, that was
- 3:10such a great idea. And I said, that is the only
- 3:12kind I have. I love that.
- 3:16I know he's like, oh, is it now? He loves it, but shout out to
- 3:21Wes. But I will tell you this that
- 3:24afterwards, initially he was going to come today.
- 3:28He was going to come tonight. And I said, oh, that'd be great.
- 3:31I said because I want you to meet Kylie, because I want Kylie
- 3:34to suck your beautiful cock. And he's like, oh, OK.
- 3:40And I said, yeah. I said, and Charles wants to do
- 3:42it too. And he's like, oh, OK.
- 3:46He's like, I really don't care who sucks my cock.
- 3:48They can suck it if they want. But he has this huge mushroom
- 3:51head. And in the pictures it, it
- 3:55doesn't give it justice. You know how pictures are.
- 3:59And so you know, it's a good six, sometimes 7 inches, but
- 4:03it's got a huge head on it and it's got really thick girth.
- 4:07And when he gets hard, he stays hard.
- 4:11And we kind of have like this little joke I, I told him last
- 4:14night, I said he will get in the sleep sack and he'll fall
- 4:16asleep, but his Dick is still awake.
- 4:19So I'll go over and tap, tap on his Dick.
- 4:22I'm like, come on big boy, get on up.
- 4:26And he will still even be asleep.
- 4:28And his Dick gets hard and it stays hard even after he comes.
- 4:33I was like, my God, if I were single, we would have a fuck
- 4:38fest on that cock. God I was like oh yummy fucking
- 4:44Dick. I'm just saying it is the bomb
- 4:47diggity. Whoo anyway, he's just over here
- 4:50selling this Dick to me. Yeah, because I told him I was
- 4:54like, yeah, I wanted you to be in the back bed because I wanted
- 4:56Charles and Kylie to go down in your cock.
- 4:58And he was like, yeah. Yeah, obviously.
- 5:03And he's like, who's Kylie? And I was like, well, Kylie was
- 5:06a lesbian virgin like a month or two ago.
- 5:09And I said, she's been on the podcast and this and that.
- 5:11And I said, next thing you know, she wants to suck on dildos
- 5:16through her lesbian experience. And she enjoyed it.
- 5:19And he's like, huh. He's like, I don't, I don't know
- 5:23if I could wrap my head around that.
- 5:25And I said, well. She figuratively, yeah.
- 5:27I suppose she wrapped her mouth around that head, but I said but
- 5:32he's like, well, you know, maybe I maybe I can get it.
- 5:35I said, look, I said you love eating pussy, right?
- 5:38And he's like, yeah, I love eating pussy.
- 5:40I said, OK, well if she is cool and she likes, you know, eating
- 5:48pussy, but she really has now enjoyed sucking cock.
- 5:51I told her you're going to enjoy sucking cock far greater than
- 5:55what you will sucking dildos. And I said now she's discovered
- 5:58she loves sucking Dick. We we learned that.
- 6:03We learned. We learned that much better.
- 6:06Much better than a dildo. Yeah, definitely better.
- 6:13I mean, it's like I'm going to tell you, it's like I think the
- 6:16first episode you told me, I know you have a bottle fetish,
- 6:20but you're not going to create bottle nearly as much as you
- 6:22will that Dick. And I was like, true.
- 6:25Well, figured that out. That was true me.
- 6:28It called that shit. Yeah, I did.
- 6:30Called it, I did. It's OK.
- 6:34It's OK because like I said, it's just the real thing.
- 6:37It's the skin on skin. It's that good connection.
- 6:40Oh said good connection. You form with someone and trust
- 6:44me, I said there, you're going to have your run in with douche
- 6:46bags. Oh yeah, it's going to happen.
- 6:50But you know, don't let that deter you, because there's
- 6:52always a good cock attached to a good person right around the
- 6:56corner. Like that with pussies too.
- 6:59You know what I hate to see? Yeah, right.
- 7:01You know what I hate to see is men that are fucking douchebags.
- 7:06Absolute fucking trolls. But then they had these
- 7:10beautiful cocks and it's like, why?
- 7:14God, why? Just suck the Dick and send them
- 7:17home. See, they don't even deserve
- 7:20that. They It's not about what?
- 7:22They it's about what. You deserve you deserve a
- 7:24gorgeous cock in your mouth. You know, it's so crazy.
- 7:28I remember, you know, Brad's usually live up to their their
- 7:32shit names. But you know, it's like Marc
- 7:36Brad, you know, 1 syllable. They're usually douchebags.
- 7:39No offense guys, but. Damn it, Dave.
- 7:43Dave. Yeah, yeah.
- 7:49But I had this guy and he was a brat and he was a pilot and he
- 7:53was sexy as fuck. And yeah, he had.
- 7:59Brats in their pilots I. Don't know, but he had a
- 8:01beautiful 8 inch cock and he was a douche.
- 8:05He was an absolute douche. I was probably like a size 14.
- 8:10I wasn't and I was, you know, 5/8.
- 8:12So I mean, it wasn't even that that I was fat, but he was a
- 8:14douche. He's like, you need to find Judy
- 8:16and Craig and I was like what the fuckity fuck?
- 8:20This is back in the day. This isn't 1999.
- 8:23And what? Is that no?
- 8:26Jenny Craig is like Weight Watchers.
- 8:28Oh, OK. Yeah.
- 8:29Oh, so young, are you young, little soul?
- 8:32Yes. He was telling me I needed to
- 8:34lose weight and I wasn't fat was my point.
- 8:37OK. But he you know.
- 8:39A lot of men that want really skinny women, they're very
- 8:41insecure men, so they have to have little skinny, perfect
- 8:44women to make them feel better about themselves.
- 8:47But Needless to say, Brad did not discourage me.
- 8:51What I did with Brad was I would show up to his apartment with a
- 8:56sex toy or, you know, a massage or something.
- 9:00I would make him get me off and then I would ramp him up so
- 9:04much. And then I would say, yeah, no,
- 9:06I'm still a virgin. And I was, I was.
- 9:10I didn't want to fuck a douche bag.
- 9:12Understandable. Yeah, You don't want to let your
- 9:14Virginia douche? No.
- 9:15So I would suck his Dick a little bit, but then I wouldn't
- 9:19get him off. I was like, yeah, no, I'm good.
- 9:22Bye, Bye, Bye, douche Brett. And you know what gave me real
- 9:26true happiness about him? Is that here, you know, 1999?
- 9:32And now I decided I wanted to look him up and see what good
- 9:35old Brad looks like. And I looked him up and he's
- 9:39fucking ugly. He's lost his hair, he's married
- 9:43to an ugly wife who is skinny but she's ugly as fuck.
- 9:46And I was like, fuck you Brad and your ugly wife and you're
- 9:51not a pilot anymore so go fuck yourself.
- 9:53So anyway, yes, I guess. He had to when he was with you.
- 9:58Exactly. Exactly.
- 10:01Oh, you know they say a woman scorn, right?
- 10:04Don't don't stand in the path. But it's true.
- 10:07That's true. You know?
- 10:09You know, women can give so much.
- 10:11And you know, men are the same way.
- 10:13You can give so much into any type of connection or
- 10:16relationship that you have friendship, what have you.
- 10:19And but him, he was just a useless sack of meat with a good
- 10:25piece of Dick, and that's all it was.
- 10:27And now I hope he can't get it up.
- 10:32Yeah, fucker. Anyway, so a good Brad wrote me
- 10:37and a good Brad who was very, very sweet, very, very kind.
- 10:41He wrote me the other day and he's like, Hi, Mistress Mia.
- 10:45I'm reaching out because I've been a long time fan of your
- 10:49podcast. I wanted to come down to
- 10:51Pensacola to see you and to finally have a session with you.
- 10:56I just want to meet you and enjoy what a mistress could do
- 10:59to me, the real Mistress Mia, I'm really excited to possibly
- 11:03have some experience with you and get the experience that I've
- 11:06been hearing about on the podcast.
- 11:09So Brad and I had a little rendezvous on the phone on the
- 11:15Fonzy and it was hot. I loved you, Brad.
- 11:20It was great. I was telling Brad what to stick
- 11:24in his little pussy hole and he was my Sissy and I was calling
- 11:29him, gosh, what was I calling you Brad?
- 11:34It was a Sissy name, but such a sexy little bitch.
- 11:39He he has a sexy voice too, which it does not hurt.
- 11:43And we had a good time. You know, I'm like, yeah, stick
- 11:46it in your clit. Oh, stick it in your your cunt
- 11:49and stroke your clit for me. And he's like.
- 11:51Stick it in the clit. It's like, yeah.
- 11:53Mistress is great. Oh goodness, sorry, time with.
- 11:58Mia, she just starts doing all the voices.
- 12:00Oh yeah, I. Do I Do I do you know, I had
- 12:03this one lady I took care of back in the day.
- 12:06She was when we worked in geriatrics.
- 12:10Now, if I do this voice for you, Kylie, I have never told this
- 12:15story on the podcast, OK? But when I was a kid, I didn't
- 12:20have a lot of friends. The old people that my family
- 12:24cared for at their facilities, those were my friends.
- 12:28Those were like my grandma's that I never got to have, right?
- 12:31So I would imitate them in a very lovingly way, OK, But I
- 12:36would try to perfect their voice.
- 12:37So I had this one lady, and her name was Frances.
- 12:42And Frances was a hypochondriac. She constantly needed attention.
- 12:47And she had a telephone in her room where she would call down
- 12:51to the front desk all the fucking time from anything to
- 12:56empty her bedside commode. She wanted Tylenol and she
- 13:00needed help. It was always something.
- 13:04So she called all the time when I worked, when my sisters
- 13:08worked, blah blah, blah. And she would say, would you?
- 13:14Would you come empty my my Paddy?
- 13:19Would you, would you carry? And so I was like, yeah, well,
- 13:29see, a lot of times I would see her phone number and I was like,
- 13:32I'm not answering. I'm I'll go up and check on her
- 13:35in a few minutes. I'm not doing this long
- 13:37prolonged phone call. I'm not going to do it.
- 13:40So my other sister was in administration and she would get
- 13:44the phone calls from the complaints, right?
- 13:47So I said one day Francis decided to go and you know,
- 13:52she'd call my sister and she would complain about me because
- 13:55I was not as efficient as she wanted me to be.
- 13:59Like going to her room every 5 minutes.
- 14:01I just couldn't accommodate. So my 21 year old self being
- 14:08silly, I thought it was funny. Anyway, I went to Francis's room
- 14:13because Francis went to a doctor's appointment and I was
- 14:16kind of tired of my sister lecturing me about me being more
- 14:20proficient in patient care with with this lady.
- 14:24And I said, look, the lady's a hyper contract.
- 14:26I can't give her, you know, any more than six Tylenol day.
- 14:31Her behavior is draining. You know, when you work with
- 14:34mental health, it can be very draining.
- 14:36And I would work a lot of double shifts.
- 14:39So I would tell my sister, you know, go suck a Dick, OK?
- 14:43You want to switch places? I'm just telling you, it's very
- 14:46difficult dealing with this woman.
- 14:48Anyway, so I went into Francis's bedroom while she was gone, and
- 14:52I called my sister from Francis's phone and I said I got
- 15:00a voicemail, go figure, because my sister didn't want to answer
- 15:02the fucking phone either. But I called and I said yeah, I
- 15:06said, this is Francis. I'm so wet and so horny and I'm
- 15:13rubbing my pussy to you. I'm going to take a bath and I'm
- 15:19going to go rub my pussy and think about you.
- 15:23Yes. And I proceeded to go on on
- 15:28this. Oh, it was a good 15 minute long
- 15:32sex phone conversation of the voicemail.
- 15:37And the day later, you know, my sister calls me and she's like,
- 15:41I don't know if I want to answer phone calls from Francis
- 15:43anymore. I said, oh, why is that?
- 15:46She's like, she called me and it was really disgusting and
- 15:49inappropriate. And my sister is very vanilla.
- 15:52Like, oh, so vanilla that she's married to a gay man and thinks
- 15:56he's bisexual, but he just, yeah, it just so happens to live
- 16:00with his boyfriend and they're still married.
- 16:02Yeah. It's the weirdest shit ever in
- 16:05my family. Jesus.
- 16:06OK yeah, despite everything else, this is the weirdest
- 16:10possible fucking scenario. They have 5 wonderful kids
- 16:13together. Like the best fucking people.
- 16:16That was their gift to humanity. They they gave birth to five
- 16:20amazing children. But their marriage sucks because
- 16:23he's gay and she doesn't want to admit that.
- 16:25So for her to be extremely fucking vanilla, for me to call
- 16:29her and talk dirty to her on her voicemail, that was the cream of
- 16:33the crop from the. Love that so much.
- 16:38That's fantastic. That's what.
- 16:39I thought it was a good story. Right?
- 16:40That's a great story. Oh my gosh, I love that.
- 16:43Yeah. Rush franchise, Monsieur
- 16:47Francis. Anyway.
- 16:50Right. So I had this one woman she
- 16:52wrote me and she's like So what would you do when you stumble
- 16:55upon someone you know and has their kink profile and you find
- 16:59their kink profile and like you know who they are but you don't
- 17:02know if they are into the same thing you were in.
- 17:06How do you know or how do you even approach them?
- 17:09Because apparently the friend that she found on here is into
- 17:13ABDL too on some level because she wants to know if her friend
- 17:17is in the diapers too. She's like but do I feel like I
- 17:22need to wait or has it been too long?
- 17:25I said she can't see your profile.
- 17:27You know, in fat life they don't report who's seen your profile.
- 17:31Yeah, they don't tell you. Yeah.
- 17:32So I told her, I said don't overthink it.
- 17:34Just say what you feel. Approach your friend.
- 17:37Yeah, I said, you might have something really in common
- 17:40around adult baby. Why not?
- 17:43Maybe you could wear diapers together.
- 17:46Right on right, Right. That's what you want to do for
- 17:48sure. Just ask people.
- 17:50Oh, I mean, there are very few people who get offended by that.
- 17:52I mean, there are some here and there, but usually if they're on
- 17:55Fetlife and they're posting their kinks on there, they don't
- 17:58care, you know, to ask. For the most part, they don't
- 18:00care if they're asked. I mean, there are some, but you
- 18:04know, just like in every community, there's a couple
- 18:05people that are just like, don't really want to approach the
- 18:09subject with people they know. But a lot of people are pretty
- 18:12open about it. Yeah, especially people who go
- 18:14to events and things. They're usually very pretty
- 18:16open. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:20So one of my favorite people on fat who I've never met.
- 18:24He is so super nice. His name is shiny 99 and he
- 18:30writes me. He said.
- 18:31Mr. Smya as always when you and Barbie get on an episode you 2
- 18:35bring me so much laughter. Sad part is I feel like I don't
- 18:40fit your perfect sub physique. I'm 6 three 190 lbs.
- 18:45I don't think I'm terrible looking, but I don't act like
- 18:48the guys that you and Barbie describe.
- 18:51I don't know. But my goal always is to be
- 18:53there for my partner's pleasure before mine.
- 18:56I might explain why. It might explain why I like
- 19:00being as submissive in my relationships.
- 19:03Every time I listen to one of your episodes, I feel I learn
- 19:06more about myself. Should I start calling you
- 19:09Doctor Mistress Mia, have a wonderful day.
- 19:13And I said, look, Mr. Shiny, you're beautiful.
- 19:19You know, you're six, 390 lbs. You're perfect.
- 19:23And I said it doesn't really matter.
- 19:25Height. It doesn't matter.
- 19:26I just like them little because I like to picture them, you
- 19:29know, me putting them in like little strollers and pushing
- 19:32them around like my Chihuahuas or dressing them up as Barbie
- 19:37dolls and putting them up on my shelf.
- 19:39You know I love it right? Like right now I would love to
- 19:43have a shelf right there, have my Sissy like completely dressed
- 19:47up and him just sitting on the shelf pretending he's a doll.
- 19:52I mean how fucking cute would that be?
- 19:54That would. Be cute it would.
- 19:56And Kylie's looking at my wall like there is potential on that
- 19:59there, there. Is potential, I mean.
- 20:02He's £120, he will be fine. Yeah.
- 20:06I mean, I mean, we could support with the TV stand, right?
- 20:10Then I could just pivot his ass, you know?
- 20:12Just just as you move around the room, just have like a remote
- 20:15control that moves. Exactly.
- 20:17Love that now. Listen, this is before your
- 20:20time, but I'm going to tell you those.
- 20:23Things are before my time, Mia. Most things are OK, I get it.
- 20:26I'm old, however. You're not.
- 20:31Listen, this was really funny because I was talking to my
- 20:34husband about a week ago and he's like, we're just in bed,
- 20:37We're hanging out. And he's like, what were the
- 20:40movies when you were a kid that got you turned on?
- 20:44Yeah. And I know it's, it's OK.
- 20:47It's it sounds weird the way it sounds OK.
- 20:52But what he's saying is when I was going through puberty, like,
- 20:56what would excite me and we talked about in comparison, like
- 21:00what excited him when he was a kid, blah, blah, blah.
- 21:03He liked to find outdoor cages like animal traps and get inside
- 21:08animal traps or kennels. He like the feeling.
- 21:13Of being in clothes, yes. Yeah.
- 21:15And makes sense, yeah. And I said when I was a kid
- 21:18because he asked me about, you know, the whole concept of being
- 21:21a dominatrix and everything. And so I was on the After Hour
- 21:26Sessions podcast today with D Rock.
- 21:28He's an awesome guy, super nice guy.
- 21:32He'd asked me and how I actually started off as wanting to be a
- 21:36Dom and I said, well, years ago I heard vanilla Isis song Stop
- 21:42That Train. But I go back further and I can
- 21:46remember when I was 7-8 years old watching Animal House and I
- 21:50don't know if you've ever seen this movie.
- 21:52It's. A funny, It's kind of like the
- 21:53original comedies of I think it came out in 7677.
- 21:58So it was right when I was born pretty much, but it's about frat
- 22:03houses of this college. And the one frat house is Delta
- 22:09and Delta is the animal house. It they're pretty much these
- 22:12guys are just gross. They're drunks, they're fucking
- 22:16losers. Have been in college for 5-6
- 22:18years. You know, they're like the bad
- 22:21epitome of scum according to this college.
- 22:25And so, you know, no one wants to go to Delta because they're a
- 22:30bunch of criminals and gross people.
- 22:32But anyway, it's very comedic. It was a great storyline and
- 22:38there's a part in it where Kevin Bacon, it was like one of his
- 22:41first films, OK, Kevin Bacon was a fucking hot mother fucker for
- 22:46him to get in this fraternity. Kevin Bacon goes to wants to get
- 22:49into this elite fraternity and it's run by this asshole.
- 22:53And they basically are all wearing red robes.
- 22:57The people that are already in the fraternity, including the
- 23:01leader who is a teacher and the new recruits they make come in
- 23:05their Whitey tighties, OK? And they're going down there
- 23:09like surrounding them, and they have this one little aisle and
- 23:12fires going up behind them and they, the leader of the
- 23:17organization of the frat house, he has to spank them.
- 23:21They get their yeah, they get their fraternity spankings with
- 23:25a big fucking paddle. It's similar to one I have in
- 23:28the dungeon. I've.
- 23:29Seen it? OK, fucking.
- 23:30Turns me on every time I watch the scene I'm like.
- 23:40Anyway, so he spanks Kevin Bacon and he's like, thank you, Sir,
- 23:44may I have another? And he's like, and then the guy
- 23:47spanks him again. And you should see the look on
- 23:49his face. He's like, Oh yeah, I'm enjoying
- 23:51this. And he spanks me again.
- 23:52He's like, thank you, Sir, may I have another?
- 23:56Yeah, That shit is so fucking hot.
- 24:01So fucking hot. So my point of it is you start
- 24:04seeing these little things as you're growing up.
- 24:07And so my husband's like, let's watch that scene.
- 24:10And he Youtubes it. I'm like, oh, fuck.
- 24:15And then I told him there was another, another scene when I
- 24:19was a teenager, and it was in Roadhouse, right?
- 24:23Did you ever see Roadhouse in Patrick's way?
- 24:24It was. Jesus Christ, I need someone in
- 24:27this, someone in this room. Where's Charles at?
- 24:33But there is Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze, and Patrick
- 24:36Swayze has always been security for like shithole bars and dive
- 24:42bars. He'll go in, he'll clean them
- 24:44up, make them pretty again to main people maintaining
- 24:47themselves and not acting like fucking animals.
- 24:50So he's starting off at this bar and he can't see this one guy
- 24:56for security. It's like, where the fuck is he?
- 24:59Well, he opens up the back storage room and the guy has his
- 25:03hot blonde bent over fucking her.
- 25:06And in my mind, in my 14 year old mind, I was thinking, Oh my
- 25:10God, what if he was fucking her with a big ass strap on?
- 25:15And then I was like, I wasn't picturing myself as the girl,
- 25:19but I was picturing myself as the dude because he was like
- 25:22fucking her really fucking hard. And I was like, yeah, I love
- 25:27that. And then Patrick Swayze, he's
- 25:29like, hey, you're out. He's like but I was on my break.
- 25:33Yeah, love that ex piece. Yes.
- 25:36But anyway, I don't know how we got on that topic.
- 25:39I don't know, I I don't know. I don't I don't really like
- 25:44think there was anything I watched like necessarily that be
- 25:46like turned me on necessarily. But I had access to porn young.
- 25:50My mom taught us how to she was like, you're interested in
- 25:53watching that kind of stuff. Here's how you do it safely.
- 25:55And she like, you know, I mean, I was probably 13 or 14 when I
- 25:58was allowed to start watching that because she would rather us
- 26:01learn it safely than to explore on our own and getting some
- 26:05either trouble with the law or just some kind of disorder or
- 26:11something like that. So she's like, you know, this is
- 26:12how we do it responsible. You don't watch it every day,
- 26:14you know, which is a really good way of doing it.
- 26:17You know, I might have been older than 14.
- 26:18I might have been 15 or 16, but I was definitely under 18.
- 26:23But I before I was started watching stuff, I would spank
- 26:27myself with hair brushes. And there was this, we had an in
- 26:33the in the shower, we had a wooden brush that you knows, for
- 26:38our back. And I would take the hand, I
- 26:39would turn around and I'd think I would spank myself with a
- 26:41handle and just see how long I could go in the shower and
- 26:45stuff. So that's how like I learned
- 26:46real early that was like my thing.
- 26:49Yeah. Now I get awakening did come
- 26:52from a TV show, a movie. So Marvel, I've told you, was
- 26:57huge part of my life. It's tattooed on my arm.
- 26:59That's how much I love it. Like Marvel, it's a huge part of
- 27:02me. And the very first Marvel movie
- 27:05I ever got to watch in theaters was Avengers Age of Ultron,
- 27:08which came out in 2015. So I was about 14 when that
- 27:11movie came out and 1314. And Elizabeth Olsen plays Wanda
- 27:18Maximoff. And Wanda, you see her for a
- 27:21couple of seconds in the first little bit, but then her first
- 27:24sentence, she's Sokovian. So she has this really deep
- 27:27Sokovian accent, which is Elizabeth Olsen played it off
- 27:30perfectly. And she said one word and it was
- 27:33like to this guy. And she was basically like, I'm
- 27:36better and bigger than you. Even though she's a short
- 27:39little, you know, brown headed girl who's very, very little,
- 27:42very frail. But she's like, she ain't
- 27:44scared. Like she isn't showing any fear.
- 27:46And I was like, and that right there is what's wrong with me.
- 27:50That right there. That's when I figured out it was
- 27:52women. I was like, if that's that's
- 27:54what's wrong with me, Figured it out, collected my head.
- 27:57She was my gay awakening. Wow.
- 27:59I still love Wanda because I'd always favored Natasha.
- 28:01Like I always said that Thor's my favorite because he was like
- 28:04the, you know, typical hot guy. But I always watched, pay
- 28:08attention to what Natasha was doing, always loved Natasha.
- 28:10And then when Wanda showed up, I was like, oh, that's why.
- 28:13That's why I pay attention to Natasha instead of the boys.
- 28:15Yeah. That.
- 28:16Right there clicked in my head. Interesting, isn't it?
- 28:20Yeah. It's interesting when you
- 28:22finally in that like click of just that's it that right there.
- 28:25That's what I was missing. That was the piece that's.
- 28:27Too funny. You just need.
- 28:28Something to click it in. Remind me after this episode, I
- 28:31have to ask you about something about that.
- 28:33Just remind me. Marvel.
- 28:34Marvel. OK, Yeah, I'll.
- 28:35Tell you something about that. OK, All right.
- 28:39So our main topic was cuckoldry, yes, so.
- 28:43Something I know very little about South.
- 28:45Educate me well. So that's the thing.
- 28:49So some people will say it cook or cock or whatever, however
- 28:56they want to say it, but it's being a cook is basically where
- 29:03you are allowing your significant partner to engage in
- 29:07sexual activity with other people.
- 29:10And it's usually what they consider a a wife to be a hot
- 29:14wife is what they call that. And the hot wife would actively
- 29:18participate having sex with other men, not normally women,
- 29:23because it's obvious. It's an obvious competition when
- 29:27it's he's being cook holded because another man has a bigger
- 29:32cock than him. OK, you know, so it's.
- 29:38Like. It's a little emasculating,
- 29:40isn't it? A little bit.
- 29:43Well, I mean, they could still be something that you're into.
- 29:44I mean, being an athlete can be a kink too.
- 29:46Oh, 100. Percent.
- 29:47Yeah, it's. Not like a negative thing, it's
- 29:49just. No, honestly, that's exactly it.
- 29:52And you know, people will wear that badge with pride and other
- 29:57people necessarily won't, but it is what it is.
- 30:01People make that path and that they've chosen that.
- 30:04And in a way, to me, it goes back to like a Poly household,
- 30:08you know, that is, again, that's an open relationship, active
- 30:11participants, they all engage. However, with just being the
- 30:16cook, then normally he would wear a chassis device and he
- 30:22would refrain from having sex with his wife.
- 30:25So it's more or less a sacrifice.
- 30:28Yeah, you. Know it's a true dedication on
- 30:32hey, I'm going to give let my wife have her freedom and do her
- 30:35thing and I read this is one of the most beautiful emails I've
- 30:39read because it really encompasses the entire concept
- 30:45of what it's like to be a cook and for him to explain it.
- 30:49I have to read this e-mail because when I read it I was
- 30:52like wow, I wish more people could see it this way and
- 30:58understand it. So we said Mistress Mia with me
- 31:04and my wife. It started after years of
- 31:06marriage. My wife slowly became less and
- 31:09less herself. She felt less feminine and would
- 31:13walk around in old sweats and jeans at home.
- 31:16There was no more interest in feeling like a woman or even
- 31:19giving me or even giving me a kiss as her husband.
- 31:24The love was still there. And as a man, I truly did my
- 31:27best. I bought her gifts and I did my
- 31:29share in the house. But then at work, a new man
- 31:33started at the office. Jay.
- 31:36He's married and has two children, but he gave my wife
- 31:40the kind of attention a woman needs.
- 31:41Sweet words, little conversations at the at the
- 31:45coffee spot. And because Jay is now married
- 31:50and he has children, he had a vasectomy.
- 31:53So before I knew it, without me realizing what was happening, my
- 31:57wife became unfaithful. At first I had no idea, but over
- 32:01time I started noticing the changes.
- 32:04The way she carried herself became playful again, like she
- 32:07was 18 all over again. Her skirts became shorter, her
- 32:11pumps became higher, and she wore stockings on lingerie
- 32:15again. I also noticed she had to work
- 32:18late at the office more. Then one day I found her worn
- 32:21panties in the laundry still wet with precum stains.
- 32:27I remember that evening and she and Jay had been working late
- 32:30together. I asked her honestly if she had
- 32:33something to explain to me and what was going on between her
- 32:37and Jay crying. My wife told me she was not in
- 32:41love with him, but she enjoyed feeling desired again, feeling
- 32:45like a woman. Of course it was hard for me,
- 32:47but my wife does love me. She simply needs more than I
- 32:51alone can give her. The feeling of freedom, the
- 32:54sense of power over men, the thrill of being pursued.
- 32:58My wife is a beautiful woman. If I can give her that freedom,
- 33:02there are benefits for me too. Now that it is no longer a
- 33:06secret, there is safety. She gets tested for STD's and
- 33:10for extra security she has an IUD placed by her gynecologist
- 33:15and keeps up with her medical check UPS.
- 33:17That way I stay healthy and safe too and we can talk openly about
- 33:21everything. Many people don't understand
- 33:24this, but my wife has a high libido and mine is more average.
- 33:29I enjoy my wife and I even enjoy the way men look at her in
- 33:33stockings and high heels. I love it.
- 33:36That's how I became a cuckold and my wife became a hot wife.
- 33:40Sometimes we have threesomes with Jay, other times the two of
- 33:44them are together and I enjoy my piece at home reading a book.
- 33:50There's jealousy, yes, but it's also comforting to know that my
- 33:54wife chooses me as her husband and as the betrayed cuckold.
- 33:59I am still the one who gets to end the day intimately with my
- 34:02loving, happy wife. And I told him.
- 34:06I said I understand. I wish more husbands were like
- 34:09you. And I said, have a perfect day,
- 34:11send my best to you and your wife.
- 34:14Now. He then continues, a woman is
- 34:17first and foremost a human being with her own feelings, dreams
- 34:22and desires. The fact that she may legally be
- 34:25my wife does not change that. As her husband, I want to treat
- 34:29her with love and respect and to support her in every way I can,
- 34:33financially, emotionally, and with care and attention.
- 34:38But one thing remains clear to me.
- 34:39She is never my property. She's an independent woman with
- 34:43her own will, her own longings, and her own path in life.
- 34:48It is precisely independence that deserves my deepest
- 34:52respect. Sometimes she may simply want to
- 34:55relax and watch television. Other times she may wish to
- 34:58laugh and spend time with her friends.
- 35:00That freedom is part of who she is.
- 35:03In any relationship, mutual respect must stand at the
- 35:07centre. No woman and no man belong to
- 35:10each other. We share our lives with each
- 35:12other, but we do not own one another.
- 35:15Everyone deserves that space to be themselves emotionally and
- 35:18also in their own desires. That is why I give my wife with
- 35:22love and trust the freedom she needs.
- 35:25And if that means I'm a cuckold partner, then I accept that
- 35:28openly as long as she feels safe and fully aware of her choices.
- 35:33For me, her happiness matters most when she shines, when she
- 35:37enjoys an evening, a meeting or beautiful date, it brings me
- 35:41peace. Because sometimes love simply
- 35:45means giving someone the freedom for their happiness to truly
- 35:49bloom. It's.
- 35:50Beautiful. Is that not beautiful as a
- 35:53beautiful? Way of putting it I.
- 35:54Mean wow, wow, that is sub dodo yeah, on Fetlife.
- 36:01He is a 54 year old cuckold. And I mean, I read that.
- 36:06I've read it a couple Times Now. And I'm like, wow, you know, why
- 36:09can't men get that, that habit? Yeah.
- 36:14Dang it, Oh, men need to do this.
- 36:16Yes, I, I mean, I, I do think it's not for everybody, but it
- 36:20is. I've always in my personal life,
- 36:24every relationship I've ever had that has been serious, which has
- 36:29only really been three serious relationships that I've had.
- 36:33But in all three of them, they were allowed to pursue whatever
- 36:35they wanted outside of me. They could date, they could
- 36:41fuck, they could play, whatever. It didn't matter to me.
- 36:44You didn't have to tell me. You could talk about whatever
- 36:46you want, but you don't have to tell me.
- 36:48You don't tell me where you are. And none of that complete
- 36:50freedom to do whatever you want outside of me.
- 36:52If you want to tell me, great, We'll have conversations about
- 36:53it and I'll hear about how big the Dick was, whatever, I don't
- 36:56care. But if you don't want to tell me
- 36:59you want to keep me in the dark, that's fine too.
- 37:01That's your decision. And I look at it in the aspect
- 37:04of not everyone needs or wants to be tied down to a single
- 37:08person. And though I personally went in
- 37:13a relationship, only stay with that one person because I want
- 37:16them to know that they're the only one.
- 37:17I want them to feel that specialness and that you know
- 37:20that I'm choosing them with their priority.
- 37:24I don't necessarily expect it in return.
- 37:27If they want to be monogamous, great.
- 37:29If they don't, that's fine too. I wouldn't necessarily consider
- 37:32myself a cook in the aspect of like I want them or that I enjoy
- 37:35it. It's more of a knowing that
- 37:38they're free to do what they want and be able to be
- 37:40themselves and still be able to have someone that's going to be
- 37:44there for them no matter what is, you know, I don't know.
- 37:49It's like a form of taking care of them that I've always
- 37:50enjoyed. I've always, you know, they do
- 37:53what you want. Go play, go fuck, go do the
- 37:55things that I can't do. You know, because I've dated
- 37:57bisexuals too, primarily. And a lot of bisexuals, they
- 38:01want Dick. I don't have a Dick.
- 38:02I can't, can't grow one. I ain't got one.
- 38:04Can't help you, so if you need a Dick, go get one, yeah?
- 38:08You can tell me. About it, when you get home or
- 38:10you don't have to, you could be like, yeah, it was nice.
- 38:12And then just go on about our day like it never happened.
- 38:15Just depending on how you want to do it.
- 38:19I mean, we do threesomes. We can do whatever you want.
- 38:21Because I want them to have as much freedom and experience as
- 38:24possible, but still have the security of someone waiting in
- 38:28them at home. Because my thing about it is you
- 38:30don't have to be the only one. You just have to be the one that
- 38:32go home too. And that's my thing about it.
- 38:36My ex, the the one I consider my ex, she towards the end of
- 38:42relationships started going out with a guy.
- 38:44She ended up after a month after we broke up, actually ended up
- 38:49dating him exclusively, but a month we broke up.
- 38:51But I mean, I knew she was like, yeah, I really want to, I want
- 38:55to originally started out as she wanted a threesome and she
- 38:58wanted a guy with a Dick. And I'm like, can't do that.
- 39:01I'm lesbian, I don't do Dicks. And she was like, well, you
- 39:05could get over it. And I'm like, maybe one day, but
- 39:07that ain't today. We're not getting over this.
- 39:09This ain't a, this ain't a cold. This is a lifestyle choice, you
- 39:13know? And so she ended up going find
- 39:17another guy. And I mean, I knew they were
- 39:18sleeping together, but I mean, I didn't care.
- 39:22Do what you want. You're coming home to me in my
- 39:24bed in our apartment, you know, with our dog and cat.
- 39:27So he wants to fuck. Fuck him.
- 39:31Well, I think I think it's extremely open minded to think
- 39:35like that. You know, it's not for everyone.
- 39:37It really isn't. But I think that those who can
- 39:40do it, people often ask me at different times, you know, when
- 39:44they come to the dungeon they ask about.
- 39:46But yeah, so to me, I think with you, the way you describe it,
- 39:50it's almost like you're submissive.
- 39:51Obviously, you know this. Yeah.
- 39:53And so I think, you know, I think most cooks would have to
- 39:56be submissive. I don't, definitely.
- 39:58So I. Don't think they would be, you
- 40:00know, dominant and be like, Oh yeah.
- 40:03But you know, I, I went and I went and I met this one guy one
- 40:06time and he wanted to date me and cut, he fucking catfished me
- 40:11when I first met him because it was not the same picture.
- 40:14I'm like, why the fuck did you fucking catfish me?
- 40:17And you know, this was, again, this is probably, God, maybe 15
- 40:23years ago. Anyway, it wasn't like a bad
- 40:28thing because he wasn't unattractive.
- 40:30I just didn't understand why he didn't put his actual picture
- 40:33out there, which infuriated me. But he wanted to be one of those
- 40:37guys that wanted to pass me along with his friends and he
- 40:40wanted me to fuck his friends. And I was like, are we in a
- 40:43biker gang like? Initiation like what?
- 40:46The hell yeah. Well, see, I followed this one
- 40:49woman on. She's on Facebook, surprisingly,
- 40:53and on Facebook again, you would think as much as they censor
- 40:59shit that they would even allow this.
- 41:02But it specifically says that she's a hot wife.
- 41:05And she advertises herself as a hot wife.
- 41:08And like, her husband is one of these guys that look like a good
- 41:13old boy, you know, kind of country beard, mustache, you
- 41:17know, a baseball cap kind of deal.
- 41:20And she looks kind of like a white trash girl.
- 41:24She looks like a lot of fun, like she's been rode hard, OK.
- 41:30And that's OK. That's that's what makes her a
- 41:32really good slut. And she's probably a great lay.
- 41:35But on Facebook she's like, yeah, the morning after now I
- 41:40get to go home to daddy and he picks her up in the truck.
- 41:44He gets her in the in the truck and gives her a kiss and he's
- 41:49like, she have fun. She's like, oh, you know, I did,
- 41:51you know? And then they the guy who she
- 41:53fucked is standing on the porch waving, and it's funny just
- 41:57because they make these little skits about it and it's the
- 42:00funniest shit. Whereas I think of a lot of
- 42:03vanilla people, they'll probably really be offended by it.
- 42:06Oh. Yeah, because I.
- 42:07Mean, I think some of her shit has been kind of toned back a
- 42:10little bit, but I'm like, it's funny because all the guys she
- 42:15fucks looks like her husband. Oh, yeah, generally people, I
- 42:19mean, you have a type and you go for your, you know, general
- 42:23type. Some people venture out.
- 42:25But I mean, the the guy that my ex was sleeping with being he
- 42:30was basically me as a male. Oh.
- 42:32My God, that's funny shit. He.
- 42:33Had the only difference was it was short hair like my Butch
- 42:37haircut. If I had a Butch haircut, it
- 42:38would be me with a Butch haircut is what it would be like.
- 42:41He was very masculine. He was very, you know, he he
- 42:46went to the same church as her and he was submissive as shit.
- 42:51Oh my God. He was a submissive pitch.
- 42:53Yeah. Are you?
- 42:55Submissive bitch guy I. Am a submissive little bitch,
- 42:58100% and I'm not ashamed of it. Not at all.
- 43:02And if brown hair, blue eyes, I mean, he looked just like.
- 43:06I'll pull up a picture of him here in a minute and let you see
- 43:08him. OK?
- 43:09Yeah, I mean, it was me as a guy.
- 43:12So that's. Hilarious.
- 43:13Yeah, that's funny. It's like me with short hair and
- 43:16a mustache so it looks like Oh my.
- 43:18God, that's great. It looks great.
- 43:20I was like, damn, you got a type?
- 43:22He was a little taller than me, a little taller than me.
- 43:24But she did like, I'm shorter than her.
- 43:26Yeah, I like, I'm shorter than me, too.
- 43:27I like I'm 55. Well, you know, I'm with you.
- 43:31I think a lot of people, they always have a type.
- 43:35But you know, I, one of my old friends, he said to me, he said,
- 43:43you know, I will, whatever relationship I'm going to be in
- 43:46from here on out in my life is going to be an open
- 43:51relationship. And it might even be Polly.
- 43:55And he said for that reason, it's because most people cannot
- 44:00meet all the needs of the person they're with.
- 44:03Yeah, it's hard to it's. Hard to right?
- 44:06It's hard. To.
- 44:08And I think we try, we try to meet all those needs, but I just
- 44:14don't think that's possible. I think there are some I do, I
- 44:18am under the belief that there are some people who like couples
- 44:22who do meet the every need of the other person.
- 44:24Like I think that there are these couples that are able to
- 44:27do it without the need of another person.
- 44:29But I do think it's a lot harder to find those kinds of people
- 44:32that you can actually match with where you, you know, both
- 44:36parties are getting everything they need.
- 44:40And then of course, there's people like me who just like,
- 44:43I'm not Polly, I don't have the ability to have feelings for
- 44:47more than one person at a time. I can't fall in love with two
- 44:51people at the same time. I just don't have that ability.
- 44:56You know, it's not something I possess.
- 44:57But there are a lot of people out there who do have that
- 44:59ability who can love multiple people want to, can fall in love
- 45:02with more than person, one person.
- 45:04And so I don't want to prevent myself from dating people like
- 45:08that just because I'm not able to, you know?
- 45:11Yeah, I get that. I don't know.
- 45:13I've just always had this sense that I love people.
- 45:17And I, I said this before, I just feel like, you know, I was
- 45:21so isolated as a child that I didn't have friends and my
- 45:26siblings were so much older than me.
- 45:28And so I didn't, I didn't have that connection.
- 45:31And so it's like when I get around and I'm very social, I am
- 45:35love to be a social butterfly. I love people.
- 45:39And I don't know, I just, I love the connections that I make.
- 45:43And, you know, I tell certain people in my life, you know, I
- 45:46love them And and, you know, other people kind of look at it
- 45:51like, why would you say that? Why?
- 45:53You know, you know, because it's such a it's a big phrase for
- 45:57people to say to other people, you know, for.
- 46:00Some people, I mean, there's also different types of love.
- 46:02I mean, I could botanically love someone and romantically love
- 46:05someone. And when I'm not dating, like
- 46:07right now, I'm not dating now looking to date, not even not
- 46:10even in the realm of possibility right now.
- 46:12I'm not even considering it. So I mean, I'm making tons of
- 46:17connections now, tons of people. You know, I've at the moment I
- 46:22have the person I'm sleeping with.
- 46:24I've just lost a play partner. But I mean, I had a play partner
- 46:27up until then and I'll get another one before too long.
- 46:30Oh. Yes, you will, and.
- 46:32I'll get another play partner for too long.
- 46:34And so you know, you know, I'm, you know, socialize, you know,
- 46:42and I know isolate myself when I'm with a relationship.
- 46:44I just don't do anything sexually or provocative when I'm
- 46:48in a relationship. It's just not really about
- 46:49thing. Definitely do connect to people,
- 46:52have friends and the I love you. Like I mean, I say that I love
- 46:55you to people. That isn't romantic.
- 46:57I mean, you know, I could platonically say I love you, you
- 46:59know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I have people.
- 47:01Like that and then, and, but I mean, it is hard for me to say
- 47:03in a relationship. I will say it takes me a very
- 47:05long time to say I love you to someone that I'm in a
- 47:07relationship with, even if I am in love with them because it's
- 47:09just like that phrase can either make it or break, you know, like
- 47:11you say it too soon. It's it's weird and awkward.
- 47:14You say it too late. Well, then they're upset, you
- 47:16know, And so it's like, it's a really hard thing for me to say
- 47:18in a relationship. Luckily, with me and my ex, we
- 47:21were already really close for four years before we started
- 47:24dating. And so we were already saying I
- 47:28love you to each other platonically.
- 47:30So it's somewhere along the line it changed, you know, but the
- 47:34meaning behind it. But we were already saying it,
- 47:36yeah. So it wasn't that hard.
- 47:38All right. I think we can end it there.
- 47:40What do you think? Yeah, because, because we get
- 47:43an. Hour into this, it gets kind of
- 47:44crazy, yeah. Me and you could talk just hours
- 47:49I mean it is just I don't know me and you I mean our
- 47:51conversations just go for hours like we just our.
- 47:55Body is stiff. Sitting still, we're just like,
- 47:59Oh yeah, three hours later we're still talking about the same
- 48:02thing I. Know God.
- 48:04I don't know how we get along so well.
- 48:06Splendidly we do splendidly, darling.
- 48:09Love it. Love you, Kylie.
- 48:11You're wonderful. Alright, so until then, Kylie,
- 48:15this is the latest episode of Call Me and Mistress.